Why do fighting games have some of the greatest character

You like women who are in shape

>>381856065
Half of of why people even buy fighting games in the first place is the character design, so they focus on what's important

>>381856065

nice pic

but I think FPBP solved it.

It'd help if you would post some good examples.
Darkstalkers, perhaps.

>>381856065
fighting games have a high barrier of entry so developers have to lure in as many virgins to buy their games as possible by creating attractive waifus in order to turn a sizable profit

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nobody knows

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truly, this is a mystery

i don't think the designs in SFV are bad but there are a lot better designs in other games like Dead or Alive.

Not gay but men in fighting game are cool as fuck. Especially in Tekken.

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>>381856065
i agree

Character design is most important to this genre, since that's all they have to work with in most cases.

>>381856065
>Game is literally about 2 characters on a 2D plane fighting
>The only thing that's really important is the characters
>the only other thing that matters is the background

That's it. Fighters are actually quite bare bones so they really need to focus. Keep in mind, there were limitations on carts at the time so the sprites for Fighters are way, way more robust than the sprites for things like RPGs.

but only the girls look good

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Because aside from backgrounds the art team has nothing else to so.

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>>381857021
fag

What I want to know is why, when fighting games prove how great character designs can be, are other games' designs so generic?

>>381856065
Because it's a genre that requires you to intensely stare at characters for countless hours.

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I would think it'd be obvious

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Because they don't have to worry about story or well-written characters. Hell level design isn't a thing either.

>>381857397
I imagine it's due to the art and design team having almost all focus on the characters themselves. Outside of that they only need to design simple stages and fight effects.

>>381856065
You ever play darts?

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>>381856324
Darkstalkers was basically a character design crash course for the Capcom artists of the time. The lead artist (Akiman) took all the artists who were slated to work on this new project and had them spend the first three months just doing nothing but churning out design concept after design concept for each of the character slots, giving direction and advice along the way. All that time and focus they put in was what led that great cast to eventually surface from hundreds upon hundreds of drawings like these.

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>>381859279

Because your focus is on the character more than in any other genre. There is no level design, PVE monster arrangements, cities, towns, dungeons, etc...

It's only your character vs another on a stage. They, like racing games, should be the fucking EASIEST to max out graphically.

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>>381859498

>>381858809

Sure, the fighting games' achievements are logical and naturally unmatched in any case, but when I look at all the other things other games create, it just makes me wonder why they didn't divert a bit more effort to the characters to complement all the rest.

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>>381859602

>>381857847

Is there any particular reason why there's so much bestiality SFM porn with Honoka?

>>381859715
>>381859602
>>381859498
>>381859371
>>381859279
Thanks Anon, i really enjoyed seeing these.

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>>381859681
Because it's a niche genre and fighting game fans are fucking ANAL about anything drawing a developer's attention away from the combat.

Make a single player mode? Get bitched at because fighting games are fundamentally multiplayer only.
Make a story? Get bitched at because fighting games don't need story.
Add character customization? Get bitched at because you should be spending that time on adding more characters/tweaking framedata
Add interactive stages? Get bitched at because complex stages are distracting/have framerate drops/interfere with the pure 1v1 nature of the genre

Fighting games are screwed because the only people who buy them are those most opposed to any kind of advancement of the genre.

>>381859715
Now THAT'S a freaky fish guy

>>381860052
>"I want fighting games to pander to people who don't play fighting games"
>"I want to ruin fighting games for the people who actually play them"
You're a horrible human being, anon.

>>381860315
Consumer standards only rise over time, anon.

Part of the reason why Fighting games have suffered is because they are static and stagnant versus every other genre improving drastically in the last 10-15 years.

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>>381856065

>>381856384
>>381857192
Street Fighter V is the exception, though.

Too many blonde characters, even a couple of japanese are blonde.

>>381860052
Literally every fighting that isn't SFV have that shit because they aren't retarded like Capcom

>>381860716
>ken is half japanese
>karin is half japanese
>mika is half japanese
>laura is half japanese

Fucking WHY

>>381860405
The things you're demanding aren't improvements or advancements; they're stagnation. They would turn fighting games into something else, in the same way RTS turned into MOBAs.
And all of those dumb things were tried before. Guess what? no one liked them.

>>381860405
Except none of the changes you suggested are even remotely good for fighting games, they only succeed in attracting normies and fighting games were always niche anyways. I guess if you want more sales it's fine but the quality of the game will drop. Sometimes the status quo is fine.

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>>381860865
>fighting games were always niche
You weren't around in the early 90s, were you?

>>381856065
They don't.

I like thicc and lewds as much as the next guy but until a fighting game has a woman in full armor instead of this bikini shit, the designs will always suck.

>>381860865
Fighting games actually gave a fuck about being successful and popular back in the 90s. They actually TRIED. Alpha 3 has more meaningful content in it than most of the fighting games released since.

Just because you're comfortable with fighting games dwindling out of existence as its fans age out of the target demographic doesn't mean everyone else is.

Fighting games will have to change or eventually they'll be outsold by fucking Visual Novels.

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>>381856809
fuck outa here

>>381860405
>Consumer standards only rise over time, anon.

No, consumer standards favor the path of least resistance, since it's the one that has the potential for the most capital draw. Honestly it's not something that really effects figthing games because it manifests as things like

>games having the same melee combat system
>games having the same map system
>iron sights working the exact same way

Any time someone has ever said "I like the way this game does this thing, all games should do it that way" it happens. And so because 15 years ago some fucker was too lazy to read a journal entry and thought it was somehow a massive improvement to have the journal spell out the exact goals, we end up where we are now with arrows pointing to the next objective.

>>381860841
Japanese cultural belief that Japanese people and blood are superior to other races
+
Japanese belief that Aryans are a master race
=
Blond Fighter V

>>381856065
becuase its the only thing they have

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>>381861114
ASSHURT woman detected

>>381860405
Exactly, either you meet consumer expectations and people buy your shit or you don't and people view your product as lacking in content, quality, and (most importantly) value.

It all came to a head with SFV. Charging people $60 for an experience with far less content than indie titles at half the price was insane.

>>381861114
>but until a fighting game has a woman in full armor
Doesn't Samurai Shodown have one?

>>381861114
Hilde was in full armor in SCIV and SCV.

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>>381861114
Hello?

>>381861603
Now you just need to add MvCI Chun-Li.

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>best designs
>post DOA
You guys are funny.

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>>381861452
Best girl

>>381861658
but that isn't street fighter.

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>>381861665

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>>381861665
>mfw Asuka, Josie, and Eliza

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Who's the bigger slut: Ibuki or Juri?

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>>381861870
>literally only ever played tekken 3
>seeing him in tekken 7

I had no idea he changed every game.

>>381861114
>fighting
>in armor
You realize you meed to be swift snd fast as possible when fighting right? This is why mma fighter barley wear anything in the ring

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>>381861902
I don't think Josie/Eliza have good designs, they're just supposed to be generic sexy/cute girls but hey, same can be said for Asuka, so it's all subjective.

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>>381862314
>tfw Baek main
Everyone's asking for Lei but no one wants my boy back :(
I main Wang too so it hurts that none of my mains are in T7.

>>381861114
>fighting game
>full armor
With the exception of weapon based games like Soul Calibur, are you retarded? When have you ever seen people fighting hand-to-hand in full armor?

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>>381862541
>we got 2 bears instead of at least one of these guys

Because all of the gameplay is 2 characters and a background so those 2 characters need to look amazing.

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>>381862571
Plate wearing knights got pretty scrappy.

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>>381862541
Unpopular opinion, I feel like this is Hwoarang's best design and I wish they brought it back, not that stupid T7 design he has.

>>381863057
I feel you dude. Been playing Hworang since 4 and that's the best one, but I do love this normal Taekwondo uniform. I miss Baek too.

:(

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BUILT FOR SEX

>>381864837
Dumb Osaka slut

>>381864837
thicc

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>>381861956
Juri gets more pleasure from killing than sex.
Ibuki is just a thirsty thot looking everywhere for some dick. And strangely nobody in the SF universe wants to give it to her

>>381856065

Largely it has to do with a good amount of their personality and stories needing to be told visually.

You can look at guys like Ryu and know what they're about if not the details instantly

>>381856065
good artists. especially bengus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBqzGA35PLk&feature=youtu.be

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>>381864837
>no ass, no hips
>built for sex

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>>381861261
this nibba knows what's up

>>381862541
That is the most generic looking design. Literally just "karate guy #87"

>>381856065
good marketing

>>381866409
Yeah his business suit alt is way better.

>>381861261
Get out catfucker

>>381859820
I think the more important question is why SFM porn animators refuse to create full length features like indie nip animators do. The animations are all nice to look at but it's hard to get your rocks off with a 10 second loop.

>>381861114
soul calibur.

>>381861281
>Japanese belief that Aryans are a master race
?

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>>381856065
Character design in fighting games must be strong and memorable enough so that they immediately have an impression upon the player, attracting anyone who might gravitate towards that character.

>>381860716
Even with all the blondes, I think SFV generally has some pretty strong designs, although some bad ones too, like Akuma.

>>381860841
>ken is half japanese
Since when?

>>381856065
Because you spend pretty much all of your time looking at the 2 characters fighting

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>>381866567

>>381860993
Chun-li? More like Ug-li.

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MONDAYED

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>>381866176
Congradulations! You have won todays special prize! It's all for (you)

>>381863057
That's not an unpopular opinion, people love both of Hwoarang's outfits in that game. Tekken 4 in general had the best character designs, stages and concepts. Namco doesn't like addressing it due to how buggy it was and is.

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>>381862541
>mfw maining Dragunov and Baek
I was lucky, I didn't thought Dragunov was going to make it to 7.
The one thing I fear the most is that they will sell DLC with all old characters that haven't made it into the initial roster.

>>381856065
>>381857397
Easy:
>Normal game
>Design good guy that appeals to your target audience
>Design bad guy that your audience either hates, or thinks is cool and intimidating

>Fighting game
>>Design a good guy that appeals to your target audience
>Design a bad guy that your target audience thinks is cool and intimidating
>Now you have plenty of room to design characters that appeal to a niche fanbase, reach out to people outside of your target audience, or create characters that the designers just think are cool

This is the same reason Overwatch is so successful. Both Western and Eastern devs just copy-paste characters so they can reach as broad an audience as possible. Fighting Game style design allows devs to play around with character types that normally aren't popular enough to be major characters in other games.

>>381859279
I want to play flaming head guy.

>>381867967
It wasn't even the bugs. First of all, the game just didn't play right. Second, the Japanese market was put off by the overly western styling of the game. It was too serious, and none of the new characters appealed to them (Boxer, Bill Goldberg, Female Eddie)

>>381866791
are you asking a question or are you doubting the claim

>>381856065
Because there's usually only two characters on the screen at the same time.

>>381857847
What the hell are they doing? There's Skyrim mods that look better than that.

>>381860841
Make a design you like and then want that character design to represent your country, however it was already decided beforehand that the character was to represent a different country. That's how you get stuff like Laura. Karin and Mika, being older designs, I'm willing to bet were not originally intended to be Japanese when the designs were being drawn up for them.

>>381861114
soul calibur 4 and samurai shodown, you gobshite

>>381856065
Because every genre has some of the greatest characters designs in vidya.

>>381856065
You do realize that there is nothing spectacular about most fighting game character designs, usually they have readable silhouettes and good color scheme but also they are very often over designed and trash too. On top of that they are rarely innovative and usually rely on cliches of fighting, which isn't that bad, but still.
I find that games like shadow of Colossus have better art direction.

>>381856809
>>381861261
>Over designed trash

>>381870452
>usually they have readable silhouettes and good color scheme
Other game characters don't even have this.

>>381862260
Depends if this is a fight to the death of not.
Knights inn plate armor that was fitted to them could run and jump through an obstacle course.
The common fighting techniques for knights in plate armor were wrestling and half swording because plate armor, especially late armor like Gothic plate, was basically invulnerable to almost all melee weapons.
They just went on wrestling with their weapons and stabbed through holes in armor when the opponent fell or during a grapple.

>>381870537
t.noel

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>>381870537
That's why I like KoF, Most of the characters wears pretty normal clothes

>>381860841
Well Laura's sort of makes sense.

There's a lot of Japs in Brazil.

>>381862571
Weapons became invective thanks to steel plate.
Hand to hand, blunt and half swording are the only feasible ways to harm a knight.

>>381862614
BUT THE BEARS ARE SO FANNY AND MEMEY WITH THEIR BROKEN HITBOXES!!

fuck harada

fighting games have the hottest girls except for street fighter

>>381871027
>implying this matters in a genre where little Chinese girls can beat the shit out of robots and people with tree trunk sized limbs

>>381871275
lmao

They are the most character focused of video games

>>381871340
What's so funny, homo?

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>>381871275
True

>>381856065
Because chara design is all they have

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>>381871420
You tell me, gayboy.

>>381866858
Kens Haircolor is also black, but he bleaches

>>381871324
Do you lack reading comprehension?
The guy I replied to asked
>Where have you seen people in full armor fight hand to hand
I said
>All the fucking time because Armor became too effective at protecting from all slashing and most of the stabbing and blunt.

>>381866615
nip animators put the animation for sale on a site and theres a decent enough demand to make it potentially worthwhile. Most SFM animators dont make any money, and some make a bit of money. (and an even much smaller amount make enough to make a living)

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>>381859498
doronjo morrigan

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Anyone like Guilty Gear? Got it recently and playing it casually with my friends.

I-No best girl

>>381871275
>fighting games have the hottest girls except for street fighter V

fixed

>>381871860
Best Animu fighta

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>>381871860
Ky Kiske is waifu material.

>>381871902
They look great, for the most part 2bh.

>>381856065
They are 50% of whats on screen at any given time.

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>>381870937

>>381866176

The wrong trousers- Skin Edition?

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>>381872382
I said most of the characters, besides shes based on a real person.

>>381871860
I-no is gay

>>381872698
I'm pretty sure I-no swings both ways

>>381872865
this

she canonically enjoys anal too.

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>>381871860
Why is he so perfect?

>>381873051
Genetically engineered

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>>381861198
>Alpha 3 has more meaningful content in it than most of the fighting games released since.
Have you ever played a fighting game that wasn't made by Capcom or SNK?

>>381862541
I want Armor King, Jayce, and Ganryu actually

>>381873051
GOING MY WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>381856065
She'd look better if she had a cock.

>>381872607
Who? Kyary Pamyu Pamyu?

>>381874694
Yup

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>>381856065

because they are "allowed" to draw imaginary half-naked women with big-busts and a /fit/ figure

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>>381872698

Is that a problem?

>>381866615
Having messed with SFM a bit before it turned into porn software, it's just awful. It took me hours to make a 21 second animation, and that was WITH using bits of recorded gameplay as the basis rather than starting from scratch.

If you've ever played a game with a character poser and messed around with it, imagine making a half hour long animation with it.

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How does Japan do it?

>>381877298
Her gameplay looks real boring. Fire blondie looks more fun.

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This is a teen korean girl

>>381859279
Hey that eye guy comes in atomic runner

>>381877472
thicc

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>>381877450
I'm interested in her, partly because I like characters that want to get up close or characters with a lot of power behind their attacks. I haven't seen any Wagner or Enkidu gameplay, been looking for some. I'm actually new to the series.

>>381878023
I'm new to it too since they havent bothered with PC for some time. Never managed to git gud with it though I'm gud on other anime fighters.

Saw some footage of them, firepants looks nicer to me thats all, looks like a rush-type as well.

>>381878208
She is described as rushdown, yeah. I don't know shit about Enkidu though, I want to see him a lot. Here's hoping that the PC version doesn't come 3 years later.

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>>381861114
Done
Any other requests, anon?

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>tfw juri will never do this to you

why even live

>>381878649
a thicc loli

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>>381879293
Gonna need source

>>381879735
Looks like Juri and Chun-Li from SFV.
Always happy to help.

>>381860052

The only games I nowadays play are fighting and I fucking love the VN aspect of Blazblue, it's the only reason I get those games because it's basically a VN with fighting gameplay inbetween.

The reason I didn't get SFV is because I love to take a break from online play sometimes and do alternative game modes like survival or M.O.M in guilty gear. The xcom-like story mode in Killer Instinct is also fun as fuck and a nice time waster.

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>>381879293
>tfw no street fighter snuff sfm porn by pestilence

boy were his kasumi and marie-rose stuff good

>>381879735
http://www.r34anim.com/juri-han-fucks-chun-li/

It took me literally ten seconds

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>>381880384
Thanks a lot, it just wasn't on the site I used.

>>381862541

This TTT2 ending should have been a bomb shell on you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6aQ_JE6tD4

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>>381882053
holy shit

>>381882053
>all of them didn't come back
THEY KNEW

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>>381882053
>Tfw you like Ganryu and know that you're one of like 3 people that give a shit about him.
This ending was soul crushing.

I've never played fightans competitively, only casual stuff like MKX and Injustice.
Is it even worth getting into fighting games on PC with an XBOX360 controller?
If yes, what essential (/relevant?) games would you recommend?

>>381883014
recommend to start with*

>>381856065
Because when your game is lacking in story and interactive environments, you should be making up for it SOMEHOW. Awesome character design and move set are literally the only two things that matter in a fighting game. Better be good at it, or it'll suck harder than Skullgirls.

>>381883014
Get a pad because the 360 dpad is awful
Play KOF XIV or GG Xrd

>>381883014
The ones that have a decent community on PC are SFV, Tekken and Guilty Gear SFV has cross play while Tekken and GG have more players on PS4 also you might want to try KI when that comes to steam.
I do recommend GG though it the best tutorial for basic fundamentals that apply to every game.

>>381883014
>getting into fighting games on PC with an XBOX360 controller
>with an XBOX360 controller

Jesus fucking Christ no. Drop that shit, get literally any Sony or fightpad. Unless you're using analog stick and not directional cross, then you might be fine, that is if you can actually pull of stuff on an analog stick.

The only relevant games on PC right now are SFV and T7. 1st is shit, 2nd is oldfags domination, choose your poison. If you care about fighters in general you'll get other games and find people to play with through other means, usually friends or a local scene.

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>>381865551
AAAAA Why did you have to remind me of the fuckery that Swordzz did

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6EBCNqB0lU

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>>381884464
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk3upE5UrKw

>Swapping idle animation with the Ultra animation.

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>>381856324
Darkstalkers is dA OC level.

>>381856594
>samefaced blow-up doll shit is good design
Yeah, nah.

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>>381856065
Because a fighter with shit or uninteresting character designs is dead on arrival. No exceptions and very little margin for error.

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>>381861114
>full armour
>to a fist fight
very strange way of thinking anon

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>>381885171
>Half of Viper's porn is futa

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>>381873051
Cause he's a doctor.

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Best shoto

>>381883458
What about Xrd Rev and/or whatever the latest BlazBlue entry is?

>>381856065
They also have some of the worst

>>381887635
I want to pick up under night, is he basically a shoto? no gimmicks right like merkava and that big hairy gay faggot? honest character?

>>381860052
The most fun I ever had with a "fighting game" (I know it will trigger shitposting to say so) was Subspace Emissary.

I wish more fighting games had a PvE mode of gameplay, rather than sticking with 1v1 multiplayer modes with AI bot opponents for the single player experience

>>381871860
Robo-ky stole best character position for me with how awesome he was in the final story.

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>>381887840
He has a parry that blocks fireballs and counters physical attacks, that's about it. He just works to get in and do big damage. He's a bit weak in UNIEL but was buffed in UNIELST and is stronger there. Merkava is fun as fuck you should play him.

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>>381888874
so he's like ken in third strike then?

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>>381856065
I would agree, but the example you gave was pretty shitty... and I love ChunLi. so many more great character designs to choose from. Case in point: I hate/loathe/cringe cutesy anime-esque girls in fighting games, but I love BB Hood and Rachel from Blazblue

>>381888919
I guess. I compared him to Bullet myself because he has limited mobility and short range compared to the rest of the cast but when he gets in he can really fuck people up. He has high meterless damage and is somewhat versatile despite his low range.

>>381885171
her hair is disgusting I bet it smells so fucking bad

>>381888874
>>381889092
does he have good reversals? how's his zoning game?

also do you play on ps4 or pc

>>381887968
At the time Subspace Emissary was disappointing but I keep finding myself going back to it over the years. The DK stages were some of the most fun I've ever had in a video game and I didn't even realize it at the time.

>>381889332
He's a shoto so he has a DP. His DP is almost strictly anti-air and reversal, he can't super cancel it in UNIEL but can in ST, so no SF4 mile wide DPs here. He's not a zoner either, his fireballs are slow and he can only have one up at a time. Akatsuki is more of an aggressive footsies and frame trap character and really wants to get in people's asses. He's also one of the only characters with an air throw so there's that. Like I said though, his short range is hard for him because he's the only truly unarmed character.

PC, I'm also brand new to the game so yeah.

>>381856065
it comes from its arcade roots

in an arcade, there are many games to play, so why would anyone be attracted to playing a fighting game that doesn't even have a scoreboard or a storymode or anything like that?

the answer: make sexy, good looking characters and people will be more interested in a single glance