Opinions on Bravely Default? I'm a few hours into it and

>Does it get any better
Not really.

>>381786421
Its basically FFV
That being said the story starts to change away from the super basic plot at around the 3rd town. If you're not loving the combat and the job system though I'd say youre not going to like it too much

>>381786556
Is there any better JRPG's on the 3DS other than SMTIV? I fuckin love SMT.

>>381786723
The gameplay is perfect and fun, but the story is what keeps me playing games and it's pretty weak so far. I'll stick with it though.

>>381786421
>Does it get any better?
>better
oh dear...
you might as well quit while you're ahead. and believe me, you're ahead

Yeah it is very similar to FFV which is why I like it so much. Honestly just stop playing now. The second half of the game is very infamous and most people hate it, and if you're already not enjoying it much you're going to absolutely hate it later.

>>381786737
SMT4A?

>>381786737
dragon quest 7

>>381786421
Bravely Default is carried by its gameplay. Your ability to enjoy it is based on whether you like that aspect enough to put up with all the other shit.

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I want to ____ that fairy

>>381786723
I don't know why bit I like FFV characters better than Bravely Default's

>>381788234
Kill, fuck that caterpillar ass piece of shit

>>381786421
It doesn't.

>Pick this up because it seems like a combination of ff3 and 5, some of my favorite ff games
>a lot of classes look like shit
>Characters have individual stats so they are forced into a certain role
>Most physical classes have low damage output, are slow as shit, and miss every other attack
>Mystic Knight, my favorite class, is worthless outside of its ability, which is much better on other classes that can attack more than once
>Dual Wielding is worthless
>every enemy is a damage sponge
>most characters are annoying
>progress lost with cfw fuckery
Dropped, at least the soundtrack was good

>>381786421
you will love the gameplay, but don't expect the story/character to be any better they get worse

>>381787752
I applaud you for accurately describing it as the second half, if even that.

>>381788714
>Characters have individual stats so they are forced into a certain role

That was true for FFV

>every enemy is a damage sponge
git gud

>>381788893
I mean it is more like the last third of the game since you can blitz through it so much quicker than everything that comes before it, but many people just drop the game at that "half way" point

>>381789137
Absolutely. Or claim "you need to replay the game 3 times for the real ending"

Bitch, it's a glorified boss rush.

>>381786737
Devil Survivor remasters come close enough

>>381788714
>Dual Wielding is worthless
m8...

>>381788015
>>381789745
Any that aren't rereleases?

>>381786421
try a fidget spinner, less story

>>381788234
not trust

Just play FFV it's the same game but better

Any other games out there where I can develop a bunch of classes like this?
Really enjoyed BD 1 and 2 because of the class system and I'd like to play something similar.

It's very hard to go back to other turnbased games after this one did combat encounters so well.

It has the shittiest game content known to mankind, but the game mechanics are good, but wasted on this trash

>>381786421
Really liked both Default and Second. I didnt like meme translation of BS though.

>oh gravy

>>381790293
Etrian Odyssey?

>>381788234
If you told Airy that you won't awaken the crystals unless she has sex with you everytime you demand it, she'd probably do it.

>>381791941
What a slut.

>loved and basically 100%'d Bravely Default
>stopped playing Bravely Second after 3 hours and never touched it again
Anybody else did this?
really disliked how they had to make you choose which jobs to unlock.

>>381788234
rip her wings off and violently fuck

>>381786421
is the left from the American version of the game? what the fuck man, why can't we ever have anything?

>>381793837
I'm an indecisive person so I would usually hover on the option a bit but really it came down to "Yeah that one looks cooler or might have some skills that would be good with what I'm going for." Plus some classes were pretty similar so it was fine skipping them. Plus you get them all eventually anyways

I guess the option was kind of fun. Made me value the classes more.

>>381788332
V's cast is a lot better, but bravely default's are pretty much mirror images of them

>>381786421
Stupid machine-translated weeb name = no play

>>381786421
>Does it get any better?
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Yeah. It does. Riiiight at chapter 4

>>381786421
>I'm a few hours into it and the story is boring fantasy shit and the characters are bland as fuck. Does it get any better?

Nope. In fact, it's mostly auto battle and grinding. Even after you think you beat it, the game forces you to redo everything 4 times before it gives you the real ending.

It's horrible. Despite that, nintendo fanboys praised the fuck out of it like it's the second coming of jesus.

>>381793837
It's just worse in almost every way.
You and magnolia are boring characters, the jobs are more original but too silly, the story is worse and has a much heavier generic anime feel to it and the music, probably the best part about the first game, is generic and unmemorable.

>>381795356
>The cast is a mirror image of ff v

In what way are any of them similar?

>>381786421
most people would argue that it gets worse

>>381788234
feed

I liked it a lot, people hate the reset but i found the expanded backstory pretty nice and the bosses swaping teams for 4v4 fights was pretty challenging.

Im playing Second now, just beated the cakes guy in weebland. I feel like second is harder, Artemia and Cakes guys killed me a good couple of times, i dont remember diying this much in Default.
Also, any good grinding spot?. Chaining fishes and harpies is getting old.

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>>381786737
Etrian 4

Bravely default was so awful and what a stupid name too.

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>>381788332

5 doesn't take itself at all seriously so the characters end up coming across as more memorable.

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I wanna slather my face all over Edea's butt

>>381798624
>Also, any good grinding spot?.
Grapp keep, second floor.
There's only undeads there, undeads are getting wrecked both by healing and revival spells or fire magic.

>>381799918
Cool, gonna try that

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Kinda felt like shit after doing this.

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>>381786421
Gets worse infact. You have to repeat the major bosses of the game 4 times~ in a row and it can take hours of grinding because they increase their stats ten fold each go around. The game is absolutely trash.

>>381786421
Are there actually still nintendodrones who spout about SE being the ones censoring that shit and not their beloved nintendo?

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>>381796097
>You and magnolia are boring characters
Magnolia can be cute at times but i really don't fucking understand why they decided to make Yew such a massive annoying dork, and that's after Ringabel and his quest to fuck all women in the world.

>>381800189
At that point you can spam subway outside of edea's room and grind like a madman. later you straight up oneshot thigs with a high-lv yulana and grind even faster. reset are only shit if you rush the temple bosses without doing sidequest.

>>381800212
I got an uncesorded cia, kinda funny listening the native american girl talking like a cowboy

>>381786421
It was my first 3ds game and I liked it. You gotta find an OP build and just mow through everything though. I forget what I did but it had something to do with slow world.

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>final boss actually destroys a few worlds

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>>381800920
>friends comes to help you
>pal-bot's world
>friend-bot's world
>partner-bot's world

The gameplay really carries the game if you don't care about the plot, but there's so much detail and world building to it, I wouldn't recommend continuing it if you're not enjoying it.

Is Yulyana Alternis/Ringabel from some timeline?

>>381791248
Etrian Odyssey games, though you're focusing on a party of five, each in one specific class that can be built in lots of different ways.

Sword when?
Give me my multi-dimensional cop Ringabel and his sassy fairy assistant Airy.

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>Kikyo is simply too shy to talk without disguise

>Magnolia is not the MC
>Ba'als are irrelevant
>Is not the distant future
Who we must blame for this?

>>381802316
Tiz's story was too unresolved to warrant a huge timeskip.

BDFF was so fucking good Jesus Christ. Thicc af girls, best OST, even the dimension looping was nuts seeing the interactions between asterisk users. Red Mage rapist ntr in my children's jrpg?

I just got so annoyed with the story of this game. Almost every situation could have been very easily avoided had someone had half a brain.

>>381802661
The choice between red mage and a thief in the second game is so fucking awful as gameplay-wise thief is too useful for saving money or getting double boss steals but only a retard would entrust pretty much the nuclear weapon to old mindbreaking rapist.

>>381802909
Edea and her father are literal blockheads who won't change their own opinion after settling their mind on something.

>>381802909
This, literally just say it fucking faggots

>>381803209
They don't even have to change their opinions on anything, they just have to tell someone, anyone, what's actually going on.

>>381803891
The only ones who actually knew what's going on is DeRosso and Yulyana, and those two needed Airy's plan to succeed and heroes to be thoroughly tested and become stronger, which they actually achieved. Edea's father just got a massive hate hardon for Orthodoxy as well as majority of his underlings, and not without a reason.

>>381802512
But Magnolia should have been the MC, not this annoying yew fuck. Good thing sevond bomned and killed this series.

>>381799278
reminder that red mage has already put it in and he enjoyed it

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>>381800662

I liked Yew more than Ringabel but really wasn't impressed with Magnolia (how baseless her thirst for Yew's dick was a real turnoff). Yew was pretty cute and I'm a fag for worldbuilding banter, of which he had a ton.

I think after the preview in the first game I just thought she'd be cooler. My fault for having high expectations I guess.

>>381802909

A whole lot of games are guilty of bad communication between conflicting parties, but BD is really blatant about it.

>>381786421
Not really, it's just not for you obviously. I enjoyed it right away and loved Bravely Second even more.

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>>381801396

No, but the "angel" that warned him and vamp guy about Airy was probably a dying Agnes from another timeline.

>>381804368
>female MC in jrpg
Unless it's Trails or your name is Yoko Taro, that won't fly.

Yew is a dork and i have no idea what the fuck they were trying to do with him, but alongside the rest of the cast he's surprisingly okay as he spends most of the time as a walking encyclopaedia. And Edea, Tiz and Agnes in Second are arguably more interesting than they were in original game.

Am I the only one that enjoyed Bravely Second more? I loved all the world building going on, and even though Yew was a basic scaredy cat he still had some struggles to deal with. My only complaint was how obsessed with food the cast was, even though I liked their interactions most of the time.

>>381786421
OP if youre still here it gets worse, like 4x worse

I wouldve not played had I known this

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>>381789216
>Bitch, it's a glorified boss rush.

I never understood why this was a bad thing, gameplay wise.

One of my favorite things about BD (and FF8, despite it also being a pretty dumb game plotwise) is that you can turn off random encounters, play around with setups to break the game open, and just fight bosses.

>>381800070
>most of the choices that are better for more people make you feel like an asshole

t-thanks edea...

>>381804717
>how baseless her thirst for Yew's dick was a real turnoff
Ain't this was because of a massive misunderstanding involving what magnolia meant to moon people alongside the fact she spent majority of her life as a ba'al buster and ended up being fairly socially inept and inexperienced?

Tiz/Agnes was established way better though.

>>381805274
so autism then
/ourgirl/

>>381805198
>My only complaint was how obsessed with food the cast was
That was in the first game too, they even had more bantz about food during the loops.

And yes, i really liked Second too, despite a few flaws like vastly inferior OST.

>>381805252
>One of my favorite things about BD (and FF8, despite it also being a pretty dumb game plotwise) is that you can turn off random encounters, play around with setups to break the game open, and just fight bosses.
This.
And i loved how they gave a random encounter rate shortcut in Second, too. As well as giving a REALLY easy access to JP farming via continuous battles which needed actual manual input instead of just running around with auto-battle on.

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>>381805087
>Yew is a dork and i have no idea what the fuck they were trying to do with him, but alongside the rest of the cast he's surprisingly okay as he spends most of the time as a walking encyclopaedia.

This. I let him being the MC keep me away from the game for nearly a year before using it to kill time this summer and I feel bad. He wasn't even really the MC, and I ended up liking him way more than I thought I would anyway.

>>381805274

It was, but the fact that the writers decided to pick it up again after this was brought to light was stupid. Was Tiz/Agnes and Edea/Ringalternis not enough? Did they really have to messily pair off the next set of M/F characters too? It made the game worse for me in a way that's hard to articulate. I guess it's just autism.

>>381804940
There's simply too much similarities between Yulyana and Ringabel to just ignore them, in my opinion. If Agnes from some timeline fell into a distant past, then some Alternis could do the same, land in distant past with amnesia then develop like Ringabel.

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>>381786421
Like Anon said it's carried by gameplay, so it gets better until you reach max level, but by the 5th time it gets annoying.

>>381788714
jesus idk if you realize how scrubby you sound

>>381806143
MODS

>>381805983

Where does he get that big damn nose and longevity

Old man being a pervert is a tired trope, so using just that personality trait to connect him to Ringabel just seems like too big of a stretch. What else is there?

>>381805928
Edea/Ringabel is a weird one as i still can't understand whether it's closer to love to a family member or romantic love.
Or maybe it's both which only makes it better.

So what is the plot of the game? I know by reputation that people hate it and that there is some kind of time loop half way through. But other than that most people don't even talk about the plot much other than to trash talk it. Does the game even have characters with personalities?

Someone give me the basic gestalt on the plot and why it sucks. I vaguely know about the Airy Lies thing and that sounds pretty cool.

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>First game is alright, but needs a bit of polished and more love.
>Lel lets gut the budget and fire everyone for the second game.

I fucking hate Squeenix, it's like they do that shit on purpose.

They seems to hate everything not named Final Fantasy.

>>381806713
>half way through

>>381805928
>but the fact that the writers decided to pick it up again after this was brought to light was stupid
I do agree with you and honestly just adding more Tiz/Agnes moment would be enough for all romantic stuff in the game.
Yew's central theme should've been his brotherhood with traitors.

>>381786421
>Does it get any better?

No but the gameplay improve tremendously as you unlock more jobs.

That's the real reason to keep playing.

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>>381806713
>characters with personalities?

One of the better (or worse, depending on how you feel about fluff) things about the game is that there is a SHITLOAD not-plot-relevant party banter and diary text. I was really impressed with it because I feel a lot of J/RPGs fail at having this kind of depth anymore. Naturally the solution to this problem is "read a book, dingus" but I really appreciate games that go out of their way to still do this.

>>381806713
damn it's been a while
so basically there's this land with four kingdoms, each blessed by a specific crystal
but the crystals have gone dark (pretty much in the traditional "everything is peaceful but one day shit goes wrong", so now you join agnes in a journey around the world, guided by the little shit fairy to awaken them

>>381806849

I only played the demo and it didn't captivate me enough to buy the full game. I'm just going on vague 2nd hand accounts. Someone earlier in the thread implied it was the half-way point.

>>381806713

hurrdurr some war between "we worship the crystals" and "crystals must be destroyed! use technology!" people

basically if you['ve watched avatar the last airbender, it's that

the "evil" empire does things like use the crystal's healing power for their hospitals and create literal paradise, but only for like 10% of the people in the world, so you help the rest of the world destroy them and awaken the crystals, which actually destroys the world and opens a hellish nightmare upon it (the crater you start the game in).

It's pretty awful. The fairy is actually the demon that destroys the world, because every time, she survives and gets stronger.

You have to do this 5 times before the game lets you fight the "real" boss (the fairy)

But after you do it once, if you've got a bunch, you can just tap X too fast and too hard when awakening the crystal, to destroy it, which awakens the evil bitch, and you canf ight them and end the game right there, but it's not the "true" ending.

desu it's pretty shit, but I idndnt have any other better RPGs on the 3ds.

i played stella glow and it was basically being a pimp + fire emblem + singing

>>381806447
Well Alternis mentions that he has power over darkness, maybe that's what gives him a fucklong lifespan.
As for big-ass nose, may be just another japanese trope where characters who get old magically grow it like they are some kind of Pinocchio.

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>>381807168
Edea trying to talk some sense into Tiz in first game about his feelings to Agnes was really cute.
They all felt like actual close friends, which is a rare for JRPGs.

>>381807214
well i'm not gonna spoil much except the loop happens multiple times so the story feels dragged out, especially when you maxxed your party already but still try to not skip anything.

>>381807618

I'm asking for spoilers. I'm never gonna play the game now. I want to know why people hate it, specifically.

Regardless of the plot, I really love that diary keeps updating well written lore, very useful and informative.

>>381806795
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they did. BD gives more of what I'd want from a final fantasy game than anything SE has done in a long time. And we can't have it competing with Final Fantasy.

>>381807754
After awakening the crystals the party flies into a beam of light that takes them into a parallel dimension. Then they do this again like 5 times, because Airy said so, even though they're told Airy is evil by the 4th time and the 3rd is literally perfect for staying in it. That is why I don't like it, because it drags on and on and doesn't make sense at all.

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>>381807425
>They all felt like actual close friends, which is a rare for JRPGs.

This. I think BS is even better about that, my beef with them pushing Yew and Magnolia aside.

>>381807754

The fairy is asking you to "awaken" (overcharge) crystals because she's a servant of some dickass monster who wants to get to the celestial realm and corrupt it (more about what the celestial realm is in BS),

When you get all 4 crystals lit shit hits the fan and you wake up at the beginning of the game. You go wake up crystals again because the fairy says so. Along the way you get hints that the fairy isn't actually a good fairy, but you end up repeating the awakening like 5 times or something (it's been a while since I've played).

A lot of people found this lazy because there is nothing new but character banter/backstory for some of the people you killed in the first world and alllllllllllllllll of it is just reusable art assets.

Personally I was able to look past this because I liked uncovering new backstory shit, but understand why some people were like "fuck this lol" and stopped.

>>381807951

I love this too. Thanks Ringabel and Yew.

>>381807754
You are traveling along the world to clean the crystals while dealing with the eternia who want to destroy them. Once you clean them all you just wake up at the beggining of the game with full party and stats. At this point you can just walk to the crystal and cleam them again skipping the sidequest if you want, do this 4 times to real ending.
During the travel you discover pretty much everyone's motivations and why you keep reseting the game everytime you fix all the crystals

Most people skips the sidequest but its not recommendable. Plot wise you get a fuckton of backstory on characters and the bulk of the main plot. Gameplay wise the asterisk holder team up to fighting you for really cool boss battles.

>>381805198
>>381805392

But I liked BS's OST :(

Also I liked BS more. Mainly because it was BD + more

BD/BS are about a fun group of friends with an awesome job system trapped in a really, really stupid plot.

>>381808773
Honestly i don't remember a single good BS theme, and for whatever reasons they changed character themes of Tiz and Edea to something far less dynamic and cool. Tiz at the very least should've kept "You are my hope" because this time Agnes is at stakes directly.

>>381809047
Oh, I liked the theme song I guess. Also I'm guessing a big part of BS's OST overlaps with BD's.

>>381808636
>>381808532
>>381808465

Question, at which point does the title screen change and it becomes more obvious that Airy is evil and how far is that point from the party realizing it? And is it true that the game snaps your face during the final battle and displays it on the screen?

>>381808773
Supercell isn't bad, but a lot of their work is very "generic shounen anime" sounding.

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>>381805198

I preferred Bravely Second and consider its only black marks how dumb Yew/Magnolia was and the soundtrack downgrade (which I consider slight, but still worth noting).

The world building was sublime, I really like how they went into the duchy/orthodoxy plague drama.

Also another case where censored outfits look better than the JP version. Cowboy > indian, hot pants > bikini, boob window > torso window

>>381809275
Well I am a sucker for "generic shounen anime", so that explains it. I'm also a fan of their other stuff.

Man I feel like replaying BD/BS now.

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>>381808532
>This. I think BS is even better about that, my beef with them pushing Yew and Magnolia aside.
Yeah, ability to talk with Agnes at any point of the game alone makes it even better as far as character interactions go.
If Ringabel was still in main cast it would be a perfect JRPG team.

>>381809248
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&list=PL7X5ZBz-9h-1NUbaYjFcDprxousSxlOpr&v=SqduaIaxX38#t=2543

its at 42:25 if it didn't work already

>>381809248
Chapter 5 or 6 i think. They know Airy is in some shit because Ringabel remembered his world and how Airy just fucking kill them all when she dint got her way. So they cant just confront her

Best returning track from the first game? My vote goes to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZCjar70iOk

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The way game reveals antagonist motivations and makes them far more likeable characters was done really well in BD.
>Barras and Holly are a dynamic duo with obvious romantic interest which makes Agnes envy them a little

>>381791248
>Absolutely. Or claim "you need to replay the game 3 times for the real ending"
>Bitch, it's a glorified boss rush.

literally ruined jrpgs with brilliant design.

avoid encounters, fastforward/slowdown options, boss only option, glorious.

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>>381810272
>not impressed with BS' ost so far
>suddenly Ba'al crater and Ibitsu Naru Shinen Sono na ha Mao fires up

>>381810272
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUNw6ka7oTE
Not a huge fan of the new theme but I would've been more fine with it if it didn't have to "compete" with REVO's every time an old asterisk holder showed up.

>>381810501

Holly and Barras are cute, I hope they open up that clinic together.

>>381810651
Multiple savable job configs, super-efficient UI, multiple auto-battle configs, glorious.

>>381786421
the guy who made this game gave the girls nice butts that's all i have to say.

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>>381811514

i once read that when yoshida designs characters he starts with the ass, man or woman

>>381811651
Good man, i respect him.

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>>381811651

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>>381811981
Yoshida's designs are fucking perfect
>tfw Bravely and Automata are my favourite JRPGs of last five years
>both were designed by the same ass man

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>>381812361

>tfw you like everybody in those games too much to have sexy art of them because it's usually incredibly OOC

Sometimes I hate being this autistic.

>Rebuilding Norende
>Decide to try my first Nemesis Battle
>"Oh shit, I remember this fuck face"
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3utwG0Xxyo
Man, 4HoL was pretty great so I was pretty glad they referenced it in the series.

>>381812698
Well that's a big problem in both Bravely and Automata because characters are either too cute or too tragic to really sexualise them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Nil0qRve4k
>live performance has almost the same quality as in game version

>>381786895
>playing games for story and not gameplay
>not putting gameplay above all else when playing a game
just watch youtube videos of games if you hate playing so much, god damn

Ringabel's Theme>Tiz's Theme>Edea's Theme>Agnes' Theme

Also recently found out that Linked Horizon did some vocalizations, pretty cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHdnI1OpsA0

>>381813515
Personally I'd swap Agnes' and Edea's themes but yeah I agree.

>>381809639
That's actually kinda spooky
My 3ds's camera's completely fucked so all I got was a blood-red sky when I did it

>>381812965
>Man, 4HoL was pretty great so I was pretty glad they referenced it in the series.

Would you mind telling us more about 4HoL? I'm on the fence about getting it, do you think it's still enjoyable after I've been "spoiled" by BD/BS?

I am craving new "job" games after BS, and am honestly considering picking up 14 to get that fix because I'm a filthy addict

>>381809639
Looks like it's one of those things i've missed by playing on emulator, but oh well.

didnt second flopped?

Should I play Bravely Second?
I liked the demo, but the first hour of the game didn't really do anything for me.

>>381815695
Its worth a playthrough if you liked the first one
Its definitely not as good as the first game though

>>381815695
Yes, it's worth it for gameplay improvements alone.

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>>381815552

I've only ever read polarizing things about it on /v/. The criticisms I see on review sites are usually just "a lot of retreading, but if it ain't broke don't fix it" kinds of things. Never seen it below a 80 or equivalent.

>>381815695

Game feels better after you get more asterisks. I'm turbo autistic about completion, so I'd comb new areas for diary completion before moving on, which made for hours of early-game without variety. If you're this way too, aim for getting flight capabilities THEN backtrack. There's a very clear point of no return, so you can't really miss anything accidentally.

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>>381808532
10/10 pic, holy fuck

>>381814978
It's been a while but let's see if I can remember.
4HoL is pretty much the spiritual predecessor to BD, and it's a lot closer to "traditional" Final Fantasy in terms of feel. A lot of concepts and the overall feeling of BD comes from 4HoL.
It's kind of a rough game. Jobs are tied to "Crowns" and those determine your class, and similar to BD, you're not restricted in terms of gear but some jobs are more proficient at certain things than others. The big difference is that in order to level up/improve your job you have to install gems into the crown, and that unlocks new abilities to use. Abilities are also tied to a "cost" and all actions in battle use up a cost. Improving your crown gives you more actions and more abilities to use. You also have some pretty weird and unique crowns/jobs like Party Host and Wayfarer.
In terms of story and characters there are a lot of parallels to BD, like the naive princess and mysterious young boy, but unlike BD they're all indifferent to each other. The game also LOVES to split up the party from time to time and each part of the game usually consists of one or two members tackling their own shit trying to accomplish the goal in their own way, but all the characters end up developing pretty well by the end. Music is pretty great and the game can get pretty bullshit at parts but it's pretty fun. Again it's definitely rough so you might have a hard time getting through it.

>>381786895
I won't give too much away, but the second half of the game is basically a deconstruction of a bunch of RPG cliches.

The story was penned by the writer of Steins;gate, and it's going to start showing soon.

>>381793837
The second half of the game has you go back and get all the jobs you didn't pick.

Downloades the mobile game today. The MMO one. it's pretty nice but just slow, makes me want to play the sequel that I skipped. You think its worth it if I enjoyed BD for the jobs and simple combat. Story was fine but the characters were enjoyable. Pretty sure there's unscensor patches cause i heard they actually cut some stuff

>>381816342
sup newfag

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>>381816689
>but unlike BD they're all indifferent to each other. The game also LOVES to split up the party from time to time and each part of the game usually consists of one or two members tackling their own shit trying to accomplish the goal in their own way, but all the characters end up developing pretty well by the end

I hate the sound of the first part but love the sound of the second part.

I'll def give it a shot, thanks a lot for the response!

>>381803891
If the party found out what was going on too early Airy would have just killed everyone

posting best song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znkBQOvDLeg

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>>381802909

>>381796994
>funny amnesiac guy
>generic guy
>strong girl who starts the adventure being on the baddie side
>the pure girl

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>>381817516
also this

>>381817516
>>381817696

This shit being said, I still fucking loved the game.

Amazing OST, top tier combat system, I enjoyed the characters, the jobs were interesting as was the way you could place them together, much like the FFV.

>>381817696
In this case there was nothing to say, it was literally a matter of two conflicting personalities and viewpoints.
He was fuelled by his hatred of Orthodoxy first and foremost, and not without reason.

>>381815695
The start of almost every RPG is the weakest part, so if you liked the demo you should be just fine.

>>381786421
The story gets really good and starts to have the potential to do some creatives things go to some very interesting places, but then it doesn't, it goes to terribly boring and unimaginative places, again and again and again.

Like MGS2, the story is too fucking smart for the average gamer. It gets dangerously meta, dealing with concepts like New Game+ and restarting games in general as vital plot points, which all the drooling retards failed to pick up on because in this day and age people lack the imagination to have opinions of their own and just parrot what youtube/4chan told them.

What's the cardinal sin of any time travel narrative? Characters not acting upon the knowledge that they retain. If they just do the same fucking thing over and over again what's the point besides stretching out the life of your game by reusing assets and enemies?

>>381818360
Its doesnt help that people rush throw the reset skipping like 3/4 of the game plot

>>381788015
I get PTSD only thinking about dq7. I finished it a month ago and i dont want to see it ever again. There are lots of little things that just pissed me off. Why do people like this game so much? Of the 80 hours i have put in the game 20 were probably spent during unskipable cutscenes,save game discussions, changing vocations,etc

>>381818530
They do sometimes in default, you can fuck kikyo's infiltration and save the generals's lives. In acheim you can walk to profitur and mage time and confron them.

So does every female character have ample as fuck thighs?

>>381818530

FWIW they do this in BS.

>>381819156

Pretty much. Even some of the dudes. That's how Yoshida rolls.

>Tiz spends all day plowing fields and all night plowing Agnes
Is he /ourguy/?

>>381818530
In BD they had to do it because they needed to summon the true big bad and had to complete more cycles in order to do it. The whole "don't be afraid to disobey" was referring to them NOT breaking the cycles short and missing out on the chance to take Ouroboros down. Also in BD there are some events and bosses you can do right away because the party already knows what's gonna happen, and in some worlds certain events have changed completely.
The really bad thing about BDs successful time loop is the fact that after everything's done, they still go "Oh man, how could we NOT see this coming?!" even though Ringabel had indulged everyone in on Airy's bullshit beforehand.

>>381786421
Chapters 1-4 are great. Chapter 5 is okay, but 6-8 are stupid. And it's a shame they went nuts with the censorship in the original game and then went totally off the rails insane with it in the second. I just gave up on the series and didn't buy Bravely Second as a result.

>>381819350
>a hero of light, can become a big authority figure somewhere, recognized by all major powers in the world
>just wants a comfy house in bumblefuck nowhere and Agnes as his wife

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All dem thighs.

>>381818360
>It gets dangerously meta
Is it really though? I'm not a very smart guy and I found this to be pretty fucking overt.

>>381819350
After all the shit he had to deal with he deserves it.

>>381819445
>Also in BD there are some events and bosses you can do right away because the party already knows what's gonna happen, and in some worlds certain events have changed completely
This happens less and less as the cycles continue. You'd assume there would be some form of escalation, but as far as I can recall you mostly just killed the same bosses over and over again with some minor changes to the story on occasion. The characters don't seem to be all that distressed that they are just repeating the same actions over and over again beyond loop 2-3. I believe at one point they loop again and the only comment they make is something along the lines of "Oh, it happened again".

>>381819781
I'd unironically eat all their assholes

>>381807243
Thanks for the spoil dickweed.

>>381821045
From fourth world onward you dont kill them anymore, in 4th you fight remixed asterisk battles and 5th world you fight the entire unit and then they retreat to eternia when they remix again but this time with synergy in their comps

>>381809286
I don't even know if you can really call that censorship. You're just trading out one skimpy outfit for another skimpy outfit. My real problem with the change is that they still called the job Shamanism, which makes no sense in the American release.

>>381786421
Its a lesser FFV.

>>381821668
Failry sure they changed her characterisation too unless the native american girl in the jap version also talks like yosmite sam

>>381786421
I'm a sucker for the regal English
>You've no chance!
>The witch is a greater for than we could hope to defeat!
>You had just betrayed us, our blood had yet to dry!

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>Yulyana wants to test the party
>well what an old fart can d-
>he flies into mid-air and looks at the party with a smug as fuck smile

>>381822598
>Meteor
>Prometheus
>AMPED STRIKE
Fuck that old asshole. And while I'm at it, fuck Qada too. Fire-Bane tossing pain in my ass.

I'm on the 1st reloop and don't know if I feel like I can be arsed to do the boss rush.

Do I risk being gimped if I turn random encounters down to 0, or skip some of the boss fights? Additionally is there a minimal final party combo I can use to beat the game without having to grind out jobs?

I've also gotten to the fire crystal town in Bravely Second but don't think the game's really clicking with me, and game play aside feels inferior to BD. Does it get better? Maybe the ~70 hours in Bravely Default have got me burned out.

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>>381822598
>team up with Derosso
>'restrain yourself, this may be a creepy castle but is still my home'
>'dont worry, the asterik arena should be giving us enough protection to...in theory'
>tiz: what?!

>>381822881
oh fuck, that fire team was the harder fight in the game. you can still hard counter tho

>>381823257
>minimal final party combo I can use to beat the game without having to grind out jobs
four valkyries lmao

>>381823257
3 Dark Knights + White Mage

>>381823257
Spiritmaster/White Mage is so absurdly broken that it's pretty much an endgame requirement. Pirate/Swordmaster to spam Free Lunch/Amped Strike is also an easy exploit.

>>381823257
Honestly, I got burned out there the first time too. Just stop for a week or a month and just go back to it later with a fresh mind. You shouldn't play it off the heels of Default, since the gameplay is so similar and you're going from endgame shenanigans to beginning level stuff.

Oh, and if you really want to break Default over your leg, learn how to abuse Stillness and Hasten World. Seriously, it's fucking ridiculous. I beat the final boss Unscathed.

>>381823257
Just play the sky knights.

>tfw Bravely Second got censored a hundred times more than BD

https://pastebin.com/xYJKYMVt

>>381788015

I've lost the will to finish DQ VII.

I'm on the "revive the four spirits" bit. Painful as fuck backtracking. There's not even any fun left with the class system as everyone's the optimum class now.

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>>381824271

>vagina bones

gets me every time

>>381794026
BECAUSE OF THE CHILDREN

WHY AREN'T YOU THINKING OF THE CHILDREN
DON'T YOU KNOW WE MUST PROTECT THEM FROM THE VILE EVILS OF A WOMAN'S BODY??

>>381786421
it's the final fantasy 1-6 sequel I always wanted.

>>381824271
>muh censorship

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>Yew meets a girl
>she wants his cock 10 minutes later
This looks ridiculous compared to fairly long-drawn relationships between Agnes and Tiz.

>>381826147

there's an explanation for this, but it's still retarded

easily the worst thing about bravely second

>>381819943
I doubt it. Most people are like "waaaah why do I have to play the same game with a few changes again!?"

Do you have the same complains when playing a Roguelike? Civ 5? Did anyone ever lose their shit after hunting the same monster twice in monster hunter? How previous playthroughs would affect you as a player is what BD delves into, arguably giving it the best NG+ in video game history.

>>381805274
I thought the demo had them meet in the past, but Yew was memory wiped.

>>381827359
I think something like VLR does a better job at constructing a genre with time travel than BD. No-one is complaining that you have to fight the same fights more than once, that's RPGs in a nutshell, the point of contention is that they don't really capitalise on their own premise. Seven loops is too much for what they're trying to do, they could have achieved the same effect with 3. It feels less like Groundhog day and more like Endless Eight, it's like yeah, I get it, you had a unique idea, now when the fuck are we going to wrap this up?

>>381828645
I meant to say "deconstructing"

>>381826273
Spoil me. I dropped Second around the Clock Tower in the second chapter or whatever.

>>381786421
I don't know if you're still here OP, but:

At some point, you will be forced to do something a second time, and given the OPTION to do some other things a second time.

When it comes to the optional things, do them the second, fourth and fifth times, but not the third time.

>>381823257
>Do I risk being gimped if I turn random encounters down to 0

No. You can always catch up later.

>skip some of the boss fights

Do them. Just speed from one to the next, you'll be done in no time.

>>381829587

Flowers are pretty rare on the moon, getting one is essentially a marriage proposal.

They actually address this well enough and Magnolia and Yew are appropriately embrrassed, but then they go ahead and develop the relationship anyway, it's stupid.

They should have been just bros or something.

>>381828645
>Seven loops is too much for what they're trying to do, they could have achieved the same effect with 3.

But it was 3.

Have any other RPGs recently implemented the same features (encouter rate modifier, auto battle, fast forward mode)? It made grinding a breeze, I think I got all the jobs I wanted to max level in under an hour. Pirate+Swordmaster and Ninja with Hawkeye and Precision was fun as fuck.

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>>381830151

Some JRPGs have "touch enemy on a map" mechanics, which I prefer to random, but I've yet to encounter one with all 3.

Earthbound had "autokill enemies that touch you that you out level"

The Last Remnant let you collect map mobs and fight them on at once.

Chrono Cross had a FF feature.

Star Ocean 3 had a "bonus gauge" that worked kind of like bonus battles, but you still had to chain map mobs.

Can't think of anything else that was really noteworthy.

>>381829976
You mean breaking the crystal early?

>>381830151
Yeah, Persona does all this.

>>381823257
Skip the 1st loop entirely, because the 2nd one is EXACTLY the same

>>381830664
Cool, I was looking to pick it up anyways

>>381830560
Well, 4 not 3.

Chapters 5/6/7/8 are repeats. So there're only 4 repeats.

>>381786421

It's written by the guy that did steins gate and designed by the guy that drew 2B and FFXIVS characters. It'd probably be even more popular if released right now

>>381831180
>written by the guy that did steins gate
oh, this explains a lot
was a writer for the second game?

>>381814978
I thought 4HoL was much better than BD.

>>381800920
He didn't destroy just a few worlds, Airy has been linking worlds for dozens of thousands of MILLIONS years just for him to eat and revive. Shit is so much time i just can't comprehend how she didn't get bored.

>>381811651

I'll believe it. The designs for virtually every female MOB in FFXIV (particularly noticeable with Garuda) is basically an ass and thighs with the rest of it looking like it was attached after the fact.

Another thing i find hilarious about the Second is that antagonists actually consider Yew as a threat. And not two fucking warriors of light travelling with him who wrecked a motherfucking God a few years prior to it or a girl whose daily routine involved busting ba'als.

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>>381786421
>loses his home and all his family
>dies
>goes into dangerous quest
>dies
>loses two years of life
>goes in another dangerous quest
>dies
But in the end it was all worthy.

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Should I play this instead? Anyone started playing it?

>>381831350
>was a writer for the second game?
I dont think so, square guted half the game's production for Second. i guess they thought people would buy it anyway

>>381832151
Poor Agnes was forced to live two years while not even knowing if he will wake up.
And that's after confirming multiple times over the course of the first game that he's the person closest to her.

Dub quality was really surprising to me. It's probably one of a few JRPG where i preferred to play with english dub, aside from FF12 and original Nier.

>>381832151
Such a great ending.

I like it when sweet, obvious endings are done well. This one was done well.

>>381832151
>Spend a whole journey spanning multiple worlds going all "I'll protect Agnes with my life" and never acting on his feelings like a typical shounen protagonist, even when TWO of his party members told him to stop being a beta about it
>Fucking dies and loses two years and never gets to tell her until his next dangerous adventure
Guess he fucking learnt his lesson.

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>>381811651
He said that in an interview actually.

>>381830151
The World Ends With You allows you to intentionally lower your level in exchange for increasing enemy drop rates. Your level really only affected how much HP you had so it made grinding otherwise rare drops a breeze. It did the same tradeoff for increasing the difficulty.

mrgrgr

>>381833590
To be fair in first game Agnes was all around her mission and crystals as well.
They both needed those two years to understand what a massive fucking dorks they are.

>>381826147
>The slut is American and speaks English in the JP version

>>381834949
French suits her slutty behaviour better.

I still haven't finished this game. I loved the gameplay and its style but fighting all the bosses again and again is not fun.

>Catmancers instead of vampires
really nigga

>>381835657
No, catmancers were added in Second.

>>381835657
>>381836385
Doesn't matter since the game snaps in half when they give you Wizards an hour into the game.

>>381836835

I recognize wizard as busted, but I didn't really care for it.

Bishop though? What a convenient secondary.

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>>381837063
>mist autoheals for multiple rounds
>dart summons

How is the chef?. Thinking on rolling a star/cakes and puting bishop as secondary to my wizard

>>381812361
>tfw Bravely and Automata are my favourite JRPGs of last five years

Fucking same. They feel similar to me in theme and tone too. Or at least in how meta they both are and how having a multi-route approach with slightly different perspectives each time makes me love the characters more than I normally would.

>>381817696
This image is amusing but the reason why Braev didnt mention anything about Airy is that she was right there with Agnes and he knew that she'd just [Massacre] them all if he so much as mentioned her bullshit.

>>381837385
Fuck sounds like I should play Automata

Can I go in blind without Nier

>>381837741
Yes, you can. There will be a few deeper references to Nier that you wont get but it wont take away from the actual story of Nier Automata.

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>>381837741

You can, but you lose a lot of "little things"

It's like going into BS without BD desu. You CAN, but you miss out on the foundation that made most of the shit about BS fun to see.

Default and Second are my favorite JRPGs. Default's story especially is great, and though the twist at the end is obvious if you've been paying an ounce of attention, I still enjoyed the story, especially the little moments between the main characters. The endgame with the parallel worlds gets a lot of flack, which is sad, because there's a lot of new fights, dialogue, and story that you'll miss if you just rush to every temple and finish them quickly.

>>381837741
Yes. You will miss some throwbacks but story-wise it's entirely self-contained.
Just remember, the game has 3 routes, when you see ending A, you're barely 30% into it.

>>381837385
>bravely default
>characters
you wot m8? they are literally cliche ass rpg tropes that talk about food non stop

Man, I remember wondering how Bravely Second would out-Meta Bravely Default and it did it in supreme fashion.

The final boss literally targeting [you] rather than the characters and making you delete your save was fucking bonkers.

>>381819350
Tiz finally winning the Agnesbowl in BS was the most justified thing I have experienced in gaming.

That guy has gone through some unbelivable shit. The universe fucking owed him his Pope-pussy

>>381838089
how will they top themselves next

>>381835559
I disagree, I thought fighting the bosses again was one of the most fun parts of the game; obviously traveling all over and checking off the plot points was annoying, but the fights themselves were great in chapters 6, 7 and 8. Having a combat system with so many options felt kinda pointless to me for the first half of the game when you were nuking all random battles and doing really standard boss fights anyway, but the game got really fun when they started to actually design hard boss combinations in the last 3rd and you needed to actually figure out a strategy for your party.

The backstory you got from each battle was nice, too.

>>381838296
VR all 5 senses

>>381839386
We are already playing Bravely Third

>>381839440

Oh, so BT is a prequel?

>>381837598

> I'll stop Airy from killing you by killing you myself.

Fuck logic.

>>381839563
It transcends all timelines

>>381838296
They technically have the PC idle adventure thing.

I'm not even sure it's cannon though

>>381838296
Crossover into every Square Enix game ever?

I wanted to like the game more but the timelooping really killed it for me, I still haven't beaten it just because the final boss was giving me such a hard time

Bravely series for Dissidia when?

>>381840105

I find it interesting that it's 200 years in the future, which is also where Agnes+the Kaiser were sent with the Holy Pillar the first time around. At least according to a NPC in Al-Khampis.

Sure wish that shit was translated.

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>>381840231
> depriving yourself of the ending, the orgasmic-worthy credits music, and post-credits teaser

i 100%ed the first one, but never got the second. Is it true that Ringabel is pretty much not in it at all?

I genuinely cant understand the hate for the timelooping/world hopping in BD

Sure it got a bit tedious the 4th time around but the sublte differences in every new world combined with a slowly increasing sinister undertone made me love it.

>>381840868
>Is it true that Ringabel is pretty much not in it at all?

False, but he is not playable. His role in the game is pretty much the next hook for whenever they decide to make another game.

>>381840868
Nah he's there but he's more in the background. He does get a prominent role in the story though and helps out for one fight, but him and Airy are too busy saving the multiverses.
Also he pretty much dropped the sequel hook if they ever decide to make Third.

>>381841118
About as much as Magnolia is in Default

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>final boss is literally implied to be real life illuminati hijacking the games world and fighting the player in some kind of interdimensional god vs lower god scenario
Bravely Second was fucking weird

I wish I could go back in time and tell myself to just download the soundtrack. I've listened to all of it on repeat for literally hundreds of times, and the only thing I hate about it is that I associate it with Bravely Default. Fuck this game.

can I play this shit on Citra or whatever decently? My 3DS's top screen just shit out not too long ago and I'm not buying a new one.

>>381841470
unless you don't mind assloads of stuttering, wonky audio, and playing with a keyboard, then go ahead

>>381841615
nope, i mind that shit, so i guess i'm just not going to.

oh well.
how hard can it be to emulate a fucking 3DS? yes, i know nothing about it, but surely it can't be more complex than PS2 or anything.

>>381841615
The MCs had great VA in my opinion. Minor characters and Emil/Praline were pretty shit.

>>381840791
Well i'll go back to it some day, it wasn't even the true boss. I was just so tired of the looping I kind of got bored
I even didn't get one of my jobs which kinda sucked and could never get it again.
I'll probably just do a 4 Valkyrie strat and get through the boss with no issue if they can survive

>>381840341
Who gets in?

Tiz is most MC
Edea is most relevant
Agnes is most iconic
Magnolia is most Magnolia
Yew is least relevant
Ringabel would fit best with how obnoxious everyone is in Dissidia, also he can fight Alternis with the same moveset

I'm playing it right now, and honestly, I'm loving everything about it. From the setting to the characters to the gameplay, etc. I admit, the story is a bit simplistic but someone said it gets better after the third town so I'm looking forward to it. Also, I think I have the privilege of not having played a lot of jrpgs so there's that. I'll probably leave this thread to get away from spoilers.

>>381842750
It would probably be Tiz because of his MC status, like what they did with Ace and Ramza. Ringabel would be nice because he's literally part of the multi-dimension police so he wouldn't be hard to include. Edea is they wanted to go with a waifu character.
The real question would be figuring out a play style.

>>381843110
Completely RNG moveset with massive pool from all jobs?

>>381842750

Edea probably. Another girl rep, comes with an obvious candidate for chaos counterpart (Ringalternis) who also already has dipped his toes into dimension hopping.

>>381786421
No play dragon quest

Is Agnes supposed to be plain looking? Edea mentioned she looked a bit boring, and I don't know how she lost the pageant considering the vestal garb shows way more skin than what the other skanks were wearing.

>>381843273
>He played the censored version

>>381843273
I don't think she's supposed to be plain looking, but it's more that she doesn't put a ton of effort into her appearance.
"Agnes wore sexy clothes. It was awesome." -Ringabel

>>381843273
She definitely comes off as boring and uninteresting so I guess plain fits her well, although she made the point that she'd be an easy target for assassination if she did stand out. Her one note about muh crystals and muh mission helps push that.
Besides not wearing the bikini, the only other reason she lost is because sluttown is literally trends: the town and if you weren't using the latest hairpins and nail polish you were a fucking loser that no one cared for.

>>381817379

Possibly the greatest boss theme I've ever heard, it's criminal that REVO wasn't composing the second game.

>>381813515
Speaking of vocalizations
https://youtu.be/cUTglhRydZ8?t=11m8s

>>381787752
What? The second half has amazing boss fights. And yeah the main story gets repetitive but if you did all of the side quests you'd know each loop is quite different.

>>381843110
Make them somewhat similar to Gabranth's style. Replace their Ex Meter with Brave meter. Player switches between a defensive and super vulnerable style (when in default) and an offensive and incredibly aggressive style (when maxing Brave).