>Videogames in 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb9

>>381759843
>comments disabled

Whoa, so this is the power of Marxism...

>>381759843
Old news

>comments disabled
>4000 views
>more dislikes than likes
>presentation given by a FUCKING WHITE MALE
I reckon that might not be a representative sample, OP.

Oh no, some guy at some place held a speech on a topic I don't care about and stated an opinion I disagree with!

This is a clear attack on my safe space! To arms, /v/! Let's open the gAMErGatE and show him what true nerds are made of!!

>wanting to even play a human character

>>381761273
hi neogaf, i don't think you'd be saying the same if someone were "racist" there

>>381759843
>write better richer characters

What about cultural appropriation?

>>381759843
>Step 1: Make them a black woman with an afro
>Step 2: See step 1

>>381759843
What does cis mean anyway? Oldfag grandpa is asking

>>381759843
>mfw they are unironically implying videogames are capable of having good writing
AHAHAHAHAHA
All these autists who think videogames are art or some shit are pathetic.

>>381761889
cis means you're not a disgusting freak of a tranny

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>>381759843
lmao this is literal aids

libshit white guilt is the cancer killing western society

>>381762024
Good, weakness needs to be purged, and if a bunch of whining fatasses can bring a civilization to it's knees, it means it's time for it to go.

>>381759843
>wants to end white men as protagonists so the characters are better
>most of the progressive "games" are terrible walking simulators with creators most widely known for having twitter meltdowns

yeah, nah

>>381759843
The rest of it is whatever but why do people throw "able bodied" in there? I can think of very few situations where you could or would want to play as someone in a wheelchair or someone with no arms or things like that. It just doesn't lend itself to a video game unless it's one of those crappy walking (heh) simulators like Gone Home. You could make a compelling game or story based around someone who has a missing leg or something but being disabled is not cool or fun and it's not something anyone wants to be

>>381762338
Playing a disabled person sounds interesting, like octodad in reverse.

>>381762553
Does Venom Snake count?

>comments are disabled
fucking cowards

>>381759843
I'm looking forward to my wheelchair bound, mentally broken, drooly, arm twitchy "Daaahhrrrr" elite FPS protag.

But what would he/she/zer/they be shooting in the game/gayme/electronic propaganda /v/?

>>381762608
I was thinking that but his robot arm was too OP.

>>381762338
Do cyborgs count as disabled people?
Maybe they just want more vidya characters with robotic rocket legs and a grappling hook arm or something

>>381761273
>at some place
If you don't even know what GDC is, you don't belong here.

>>381762927
You could argue Venom has an identity disorder

>>381762738
>Anonymous retards deserving comments

No.

>>381763156
way to miss the point, mouthbreather

>>381762873
Either garbage humans or spit. Depends if you mean "shoot" as in who they'll shoot or what they'll shoot

>>381763195
There is no point to commenting on a video.

>>381763032
In that case there's plenty of such characterss already

>non-white characters are richer and deepee by default
But that's raycist!

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>>381759843
oh wow, we had a reasonable discussion in the comments with a couple of guys of various ethnicities, that was by far more productive and interesting than the Talk itself.
But i guess we should just shut up and accept only the narrative of the video creator.

You can dislike the white cis gender able bodied male stereotype, but why is it bad. Most games now allow players to make whatever they want and the cis white male is still the common archetype, its what people like, also scantily clad loli's.

>>381761889
>comfortable in skin
Anyone that calls someone else cis as a slur basically is saying they have identity issues, and are trying to demean you for NOT having identity issues, you ARE comfortable with who and what you are, and thats apparently bad to these people. Seriously, thats the angle, the people that say this shit will one day grow up and realize what they are actually saying, hopefully.

liberals were a mistake

>>381763538
>why is it bad
because it's the current year, shitlord

>>381762338
Maybe a roguelike where you level down instead of up, choosing another injury or disability at the end of each stage? Or a survival horror game where injuries are realistic? Or using GURPS/SPECIAL/etc. to give players with abnormally low stats disabilities that reflect stat choice, along with in-game disability mechanics?

Of course, if you actually made a game that forced players to choose between paraplegia and Down's syndrome, everyone would probably be offended by that too.

>>381763538
>but why is it bad.
Because black Xer otherkin arent represented. There are dozens of us, dozens!

>>381759843
I like playing as a white girl, these SJWs are onto something.

Why would "cis" ever not be the default? Isn't that the basic meaning of the prefix?

>>381759843
This is just sad. No wonder he didn't want to answer any questions - he'd get destroyed right in a second.
It's even more sad I watched the entire presentation. This is just plain stupidity. Everything he says is wrong and deceitful. Just a male version of Sarkeesian.

>>381763808
>white
Slow down chief, youre part of the problem.

The thing you guys don't get about this whole argument is that the entire point of it is to encourage better writing in videogames as a whole, which is a good thing. "Don't make normal white guy the default" is not an argument against white main characters, it's an argument against having a "default" at all. Making the MC a white guy because you're a white guy is fine, but it's lazy and boring.

Why the fuck would he put commander shepard in that list? You can make your own character in ME.

>>381764043
>but it's lazy and boring.
Why?

>>381764043
Why are you assuming it's a default?

>>381764043
>it's an argument against having a "default" at all
It's also implying that there is a "default".

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You know, I do wish there were more games these days where the main character isn't a human to begin with.

>>381763538
I never heard of anyone use cis other than the internet and I live in seattle of all places.

>>381759843
>queer black girl starring in a game, that would be pretty awesome
Where did everything go so wrong?

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>>381764117
I mean, there is a default. In any game with a character creator, the white male human is always the default and there are many more games with white male protags than there are without.

>>381764354
nonhuman main characters are for kids
video game is now a mature media for mature men to enjoy
we grew up

>>381759843
You can't write better characters if your goal is to avoid writing something.

Thanks, i do enjoy down voting a stupid video about this kind of crap daily and this gave me a good start to the day :)

>>381764728

>group of white males create a game
>white male is the default

shocking

>>381764728
Some of these guys aren't even the fucking protagonists of their games.

>>381764043
>it's an argument against having a "default" at all
Say you play a game with a character editor, what is the first character model you should see when the screen pops up and you are introduced to the game and the editor, a plain white male, or a fat black woman with neck tattoos. The default exists for a reason, its something you build upon. A bald white space marine can be written well and have a good narrative, thats just their appearance.
>but its lazy and boring
Why? Does having a different skin color and sexual orientation mean that character is better written and more interesting?
>theyre white
eh, just another white guy, doesnt matter what they say and do in the narrative, they are just the "default"
>theyre also transgender
HOLY SHIT THIS CHARACTER IS INTERESTING IM NOW INVESTED IN THE SHIT THEY ARE DOING. Fuck off with this shit. They CAN be well written, that doesnt mean they ARE well written simply because they tick both boxes when applying for a passport.

>>381764043
Nice opinion

>>381763538
They can't use arguments that deal with what people like and accept currently, because then there would be no point to them speaking about it.

Instead they have to present some kind of cultural argument as to why having all these white characters is bad. They'll bring in intersectional feminism concepts to convince you that video games are another pillar in sexist patriarchy.

>>381764870
They all are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUfg2SLliTQ

>white devs making white characters
What else is new. Maybe if black people want black people in games they should start making games.White people know more about white people more than they do about black.

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>>381764805
Every single day

>>381759843
What's wrong with being "able bodied"? Like people in wheelchairs want to play as people in wheelchairs? Fucking game industry

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>>381764805
>>381764943

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>>381764857
>group of non-white males create a game
>white man is still the default
Shocking?

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>>381759843
>comments disabled
End able bodied comment sections as the default

>>381764943
>instead of hiding threads I don't like and participating in the threads I do like, I go into the threads I don't like and complain about them
You're a fucking moron

>>381764728
>just picking games with white males as protags
>"Look how white and male they are!"
Really activates your almonds, friend-o.

>>381761889
Cis means identifies gender as birth sex.
Trans means identifies gender as different from birth sex

E.g. a Cis male is a dude who knows they're a dude.
A trans male is a girl who identifies as a male

>>381765061
>instead of ignoring SJW blogs that nobody gives a shit about I must screenshot every single one of them and bring them here so I can complain about them
Wow it's like you have a good point about not seeking out irrelevant shit that makes you mad for no reason

>>381759843
Why do people keep trying to push this agenda? A good amount of the time, people keep expressing their distaste for this SJW push through the comments and dislike bar which ends up being censored anyway.

>>381765026
>white males are 90% of game sales
>white males are what most people enjoy playing as most and identify with msot

what's the problem, nigger? games were perfectly fine before now we have flops like WE WUZ MAFIA 3 and Watchnogs 2

Let artists do whatever the fuck they want. Nobody told japanese designers to design their asian characters with totally white features, that+s just what they WANT their characters to look.

>able bodied
wat

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>>381764728
>i will cherry pick examples to support my theory
pic related

>>381765196
>"white males aren't the default"
>they clearly are
>"hurr what's wrong with white males as default, nigger niggger, nigger"
Don't let it hurt your head, anon. The industry will move on without you.

>>381764871
>Does having a different skin color and sexual orientation mean that character is better written and more interesting?
That's what progressives believe.

>>381763538
>comfortable in skin
but even that's bullshit, it's a prefix appropriated from organic chemistry

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>>381765291
>The industry will move on without you.

more trump voters!

>>381765291
Where did I say they weren't the default?

>>381765170
>SJW blog
>a panel at the GDC
Hardly equivalent

>>381764728
>primarily white and primarily male devs create game to be played by an audience primarily composed of whites and males
>white male character is the default
Wow, that's nearly as bad as all the Japanese characters in Final Fantasy.

If you want games about black people then go to Lagos and fund a game jam.

>>381765198
And there are a lot of people making videogames who want to design characters who aren't bald space marine #46782314691 or Nathan Drake Man but they can't because retards will lose their fucking minds over CULTURAL MARXISM AGENDAS or whatever

>>381765328
>yuro time
>nevermind i'll start talking about trump voters anyway

>>381764354
that's not what they mean though

they don't want to let you be a bug-man who hunts sandworms by scent so you can devour their hearts to gain their power

they want you to be a differently-abled neuroatypical pansexual transwoman of color who has to deal with feeling awkward at parties because of xir red Solo cup trigger

>>381765363
Like /v/

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>>381765384
trump is god's gift for buttblasting low IQ libturds like you

>>381764728

Aren't some of these characters from different nationalities like American, Belarus and Italian?

>>381765363
I'm not stopping anyone from making any fucking game they want. And if it's a good game, I might even pirate it.

>>381764805
(You)
I sometimes wonder how much of this shit I'd see if it wasn't for GG kiddies posting this garbage here constantly

>>381762338
I can see it being used subtly, such as having to wear glasses or anosmia, lacking a sense of smell.

For all we know, 99% of antagonists already have anosmia since you can't smell anything trough a screen.

I haven't seen the video but Deus Ex HR did a good job talking about the subject without being blatant about it. People's dependency on drugs to function in normal life is something a lot of disabled people have to deal with, and the quest where someone without augments can't compete with people with better bodies turns the subject on its head.

>>381765363
all those poor developers that want to make black characters killing whites, why cant people accept it

>>381765342
Actually they pretty much are at this point

GDC is a fucking joke and has been for a while, most of the panels are about this horseshit rather than, you know, programming techniques or marketing how-tos

I don't even understand what the problem is. Are they so autistic that they can only sympathise with the character if they're white?
There are plenty of black people as MC in vidya and I had no problem with that. CJ is a pretty good example.

Keep on downvoting this shit

>>381765481
You're only supposed to take one red pill a day, Anon. You'll end up with brain damage if you keep overdosing.

>>381765513
Gee whiz, a clear and direct example of how this stupid bullshit has made a part of the industry worse.
What a surprise, how could this have possibly happened?

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>>381765352
>Japanese characters in Final Fantasy

HHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA

>>381765430
Trump is god gift's to non-Americans who gets daily entertainment from it.

>>381759843
I just don´t get them. White males are the largest demographic playing video games. Asking for certain groups to be more represented is fine, even though I think it´s kinda stupid, there are people that care about such things. But asking for a group of people to be less represented is just agenda pushing.
>Able bodied
Does he want people with physical disabilities to become the default or something?

>>381765527
>t the same lefty faggot who spouts "IF GTASA WERE RELEASED TODAY /v/ WOULD POST "WE" EVERY THREAD!!!"

kill yourself nigger, no one will miss you

>>381765567
with brain damage i could at least enjoy those games

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Remember comrades, if you see a liberal talking about videogames, playing videogames, or making videogames... REPORT IT to your nearest GG station.
These people do NOT belong in OUR hobby so report all liberal behavior on sight.

Stay strong, we are with you.

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>>381765654
Seething

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when will it end /v/

the robots know better than we do

>>381759843

who does /v/ think will first rise to power,

hardcore communists or orthodox Muslims ?
(the purging of "degenerates" would be probably the same)

>>381764916
not all of them autismo

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Just play old games and ignore the garbage modern games that are designed by nu males and idiots like her.

>>381764871
>Say you play a game with a character editor
Nobody complains about games with character creators.

>A bald white space marine can be written well and have a good narrative, thats just their appearance.
Name three. I can think of JC Denton, Brad from Lisa and uhh. Ummm.

The point isn't "they are bad characters because they're white". The point is "a lot of white male protagonists are bad characters because no effort or thought went into creating them, more game developers should put more effort into writing their characters".

If you're writing a character that is not of your own race, gender, orientation or whatever, you should be putting some research into what life is like for that type of person in order to make a realistic character. Making your mc a straight white guy because you're a straight white guy is boring and lazy unless you're a talented writer .MNost game developers are not talented writers.

>>381765615
I meant that "they can only sympathise with a black character".
I have no idea what you're memeing about you spaz

>>381765695

looks like the type of guy, who would create all of those "pizza" threads back in '07

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>>381759843
>white guy in an afro and upside-down america flag shirt talking about social justice and minority representation in videogames

Is this fucking parody? I refuse to believe this shit is real.

>>381765736
Go ahead. Prove him wrong.

>>381765695
> why you realize how much the government does to prevent you from dying in the gutter like a wretched dog.jpg

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Fuck off libtards

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>>381764728

>Sebastian
>White male

God dammit these people.

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>>381763156
>people don't deserve free speech

>>381761273
>safe space

Haha, spotted the whale. We don't need that shit here. Nobody's safe and that's how we like it.

>>381765984
>lol /pol/ is le furries xDDD

look how far that got you shareblue kike

8 years faggot

>>381765695
>Then I grew up
>Dresses like an early teen
>Boast about being a "cool kid" once

>>381765026

>game Protagonists are Europeans/Americans
>they're white

only americans are fucked up enough to have a problem with this.

>>381766275
>Dresses like an early teen
he wears a cap to hide his receding hairline/bald spot, common thin among numales in their late twenties/early thirties

>>381765984
Fuck off /pol/urry

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>>381759843
>"Identity politics will just go away if we ignore it!"

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>>381767936
>irrelevant nobodies will shut up if we draw everyone's attention towards them

>>381768076
Yeah really irrelevant, just look at E3 or modern movies
they totally don't control that market

>>381767936
Where did this cuck mentality even come from? It's as if someone is raping your wife or an attacker is running straight at you to kill you and you close your eyes and hope the problem would go away. Dumb weak faggots think like this, it's the fucking cuddling I swear.

>>381768239
Its been fostered by controlled opposition but people seem quick to buy into that narrative

>>381768181
>he's literally that guy who can't go to the cinema without being triggered by "agendas"
You must be unbearable in real life.

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>>381768239
The fight itself is the actual scheme. Both the Redpillers and SJWs are organized opposites to divide and conquer the bottom classes in the West so that they can be kept down when the actual reforms kick in.

>>381768331
>he's literally the guy who can only wish to win arguments by framing his enemy in predictable ways instead of bringing any arguments of his own

And anyone who demands more minorities in movies is pathetic and needs to be purged because they literally can't go to the cinema without being triggered by a lack of an agenda that benefits them

>>381768441
>admitting that you get upset every time you see a non-white person in a film
Keep taking those redpills, Anon. They're helping you see things so clearly.