>go through boring shmup intro >kill some robots >kill

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>>381709167

>being that bad at video games you die in the tutorial level

kill yourself OP

You got an ending, though.

>>381709404
>stunlocked in a corner for 2 minutes

Yes clearly I should've known better than to think a modern game wouldn't have a dogshit mechanic like this

Glad I pirated this trash

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>>381709167
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8OronA2c5A

go play street fighter instead desu

>buy it
>fap like a madman
>haven't touched since but feeling the urge to fap again now

dont regret a THING

>>381709525
>stunlocked in a corner
>in the game where you have the most overpowered dodge move that any character has ever had in any video game, it is effectively on-demand unbreakable invulnerability

you are joking, right?

>>381709741
I'm not quite sure you grasp the meaning of "stunlock". I l i t e r a l l y could not input any commands, the dodge included, for two (TWO) (2) minutes straight. You think I wasn't mashing the fuck out of the dodge button during this time? It was just an endless buttfuck of two wheels sitting there spinning and going to slowmo as my recovery items popped one by one without me able to do anything.

I don't know if it was a glitch or not, but even if it was a modern game shouldn't disallow saving immediately a long ass stupidly easy introduction like that repetitive shmup stuff. Nier 1 wasn't that retarded.

>>381709525
>>381709167
unironically this, but /v/ will defend it due to 2Butt

>>381710183
I had fun.
It was like playing an clichéd anime with beautiful A E S T H E T I C. Worth the 60 bucks that I pay for.

It isn't, however, a game you can replay it, since it design is inherently repetitive by itself.

>>381709167
>getting stunlocked by a tutorial miniboss
>getting mad you can't savescum
I'm glad I'll never suck this much at video games.

>>381709167
The purpose of limiting saves is to make sure people like you get good.

>>381710667
but the game is extremely easy?

i thought it was just a bad and pretentious decision, we've moved past that in games

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>>381709167
Get gud

>SO FUCKING BAD HE LOST TO TUTORIAL MINIBOSS
>COMPLAINS ON /v/ AS IF ANYONE HERE GIVES A FLYING FUCK
Literally kill yourself or get gud, you have those options and those options only.

>buying this game

You deserve it for falling for the nigger memes.

O M G SOOOOOOOOOOO T H I C C MUH ROBOT WAIFU

it was obviously always going to be shit

>>381710667
>>381710716
There was nothing hard about it in the least bit. The enemies are extremely predictable and the only time I got hit was having nowhere to run from two fucking wheels leading to a corner stunlock.

>>381710613
>not wanting to repeat 10 minutes of an unskippable cutscene-tier section of a level is save-scumming

>>381710865
>implying I bought it

>>381710704
The game is easy yet you died in the tutorial? So you must be absolute trash then.

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>>381709167

>>381711040
>having nowhere to run from two fucking wheels leading to a corner stunlock.
PRESS THE DODGE BUTTON YOU DUMBFUCK

The demo automatically healed you when you received fatal damage but the main game doesn't.
Is this mechanic removed for Hard mode or am I missing a setting somewhere?

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>>381711040
>IT WASN'T HARD IT WAS THE EASIEST GAME IN THE WORLD!
>Lost and got so mad he made a thread about how much of scrub he is

>>381711102
>miss one dodge
>two minutes of stunlock leading to death
>have to replay +10 minutes

No, this game is shit, and you're retarded for defending it.

This is what you get when you play a fanservice game for niggers instead of a real action game.

>>381711040
>nothing hard about it
>thread is about how you lost like a dumb faggot

Git gud

>>381711040
>There was nothing hard about it in the least bit.
And yet you died like a bitch and cried about the lack of auto saves.

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>>381711189
>>381709167


Best part was how he added a line about Bloodborne needlessly to try and show what a hardcore gamer he is.

Kek, this is pathetic.

Git gud

>>381711218
You can't fucking miss with 2Bs dodge. You can fucking mash it and dance around hit field invincible. You can't spin this shit in your favor.

>>381711087
Isn't Schierke supposed to be feel Caska's body? I wonder how she will react when they see Caska being raped by Griffith

>>381709525
>claims to have pirated it
>clearly playing on PS4 because he felt the need to namedrop Bloodborne
if you want to be le ebin trole you should get your story straight m80

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>>381711102
Did, it dodged the first wheel and the second caught me

>>381711189
>>381711228
>can't make threads calling a shit game shit

Fuck you I'll make a thread about whatever I goddamn feel like.

>>381711287
When did I say autosave? I said the ability to save. There is none whatsoever.

>>381711481
I am not the guy you're replying to retard. Dodge ended after dodging the first wheel, second wheel caused the stunlock.
>>381711669
PS4 is right next to my rig.

>>381711895
>PS4 is right next to my rig
sure it is m8
maybe have your story outlined next time instead of blatantly making it up as you go

>>381711895
What part of MASH THE DODGE BUTTON do you not understand?

>>381711481
That's not the point, faggot. The point is dying because you got hit once is bad enough, getting assraped for 2 minutes and being unable to do anything is...

It's Sonic '06 tier, that's what I'm thinking of. This game is literally worse than Sonic '06.

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>>381711998
really makes you think huh?

do you want a pic of my completed BB file now too?

>>381712203
>getting hit once after dodging in a game you just started playing for the first time 20 minutes ago is an inconceivable act that means a stunlock is appropriate

>>381709167
The purpose is to filter out shitters like you OP, and clearly it is working as intended

>>381712271
>game is too easy
>dying in one hit is unfair

Pick one you fuck.

>>381712850
He's not OP. I am.

I'd rather pick none. A game should be consistent. That wasn't consistency. I wouldn't be butthurt if the wheel just did so much damage it was an instantkill, but 100-0 stunlock in any game that's not advertising itself as some extremely hard Ninja Gaiden ripoff or something has no place in anything. Every single enemy before it (including the first wheel you fight by that point) can be beaten without taking a hit because of the dodge. The only time I ended up getting hit was the second wheel coming in as the first got dodged.

That wouldn't even be a big issue if it doesn't make you do that 10 minute flying bullshit intro again. I died expecting to either repeat the boss from the start, or start at the beginning of the level or something. Starting from the literal intro of the game all over after wasting 20 minutes doing that shmup shit and walking through that bland level is just shitty design.

>>381709167
>beat the story in under 2 hours
>refund

For a $60 game it's extremely short. Why do people even hype it up when it has no content at all?

The gameplay isnt that great either and there was barely any story, is it because it's japanese?

>>381713443
YOU FUCKING SUCK

Nier: Automata Internet Defense Force

>>381713880
Cool rebuttal to shit gameplay mechanics.

Platinumdrones should be shot.

>>381713505
>>381709167
>people who hate it are either bad at videogames, or didn't even finish the game

>>381711669
poorfag detected

>>381713443
sounds like you need to git gude OP and stop crying on a Mongolian throat singing message board.

So a bug made you lost some progression. Tough shit. Start over.

>>381712542
do you kick it over when you are in your autistic rage?

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>>381711040
>There was nothing hard about it in the least bit. The enemies are extremely predictable
>I died because I failed to predict their moves

what did he mean by this

>>381711895
>Did, it dodged the first wheel and the second caught me
Then why didnt your slowmo activate? With the wheel miniboss should have activated nonstop.

>>381713505

>beat the story in under 2 hours
>probably just got ending A

""""""beat the story""""""""

>>381710120
Literal retard nigga
Either that was a glitch, or you're anot autistic 8 year old
I think it's the latter

>>381710120
Stay bad.

>>381712542
sure that'd be helpful

a screenshot of your nier automata install would be good too

>>381709404
not OP but the tutorial level, if you start the game on hard+ your first time, is the hardest part of the game

>>381712542
>Wears jeans when sitting at home

What the fuck

>>381711185
It's a plug-in chip you can equip on the character that automatically heals you when low on health

Kind of a useless chip though when pressing down and circle take half a second

>>381715042
It's kinda necessary to not kill yourself with self destruct

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>mfw all the filthy secondaries who expected a Platinum action game but got a polished Nier game instead

Still a better game than Personshit

>>381715309
nobody was talking about that until you showed up thank u though

>>381715202
I don't think self destructing outright kills you, it just leaves you in a critical state.

>>381714830
>>381714743
>>381714665
>>381714542
>>381714427
>>381714262
>unironically defending stunlocks and unskippable cutscenes

The absolute state of nu-/v/eddit

>>381715042
It happened to me too. That's partially what made the stunlock last so long, since every time I got autohealed the game would slowdown for like 5 seconds and immediately resume with another hit into another autoheal and slowdown.

>>381714959
they're grey shorts

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>>381709167
>die

Were you playing on Hard? The game is easy as fuck on Normal.

>>381709167
let me guess, you installed the malware too right?

>>381715426
Point out where I defended stunlock, I was making fun of you for saying the enemies were easy and predictable and getting bodied by them anyway

>>381715426
How is my buzzwords when I asked why your witch time didnt activate when those things are so damn big that if theyre a foot away it activates. You should be in infinite wotch time because theyre always close.

>>381709167

Play through the tutorial on Normal, it's actually the worst designed part of the game. Once you hit your first save station on the bunker, feel free to raise the difficulty back up. Trust me, it's not worth the effort to suffer through the tutorial on Hard/Very Hard and there's a fair save system in place after its done.

>bloodborne
lumao

>>381709525
>stunlocked in a game where you can literally spam dodge

>>381709167
>Explain to me what the purpose of limiting saves in 2017 is

There is no purpose. Taro likes being an asshole.

>>381711047
The tutorial is actually magnitudes harder than the entire rest of the game.

>>381715661
>2017
>not installing malware
shgydgy

>>381715671
I don't count the three wheels I've encountered as normal enemies since they seemed more like bosses to me. The normal enemies are stupidly slow and straight up wind up their attacks before slowly walking at you. None of them hit me. Wheel was the first thing to do so.

>>381715798
Didn't feel nearly like witch-time to me. Witch-time the enemies slow while you're still moving fast. From the limited amount I played it felt more like you slowed with the enemies when dodging. The wheels closed in in a spot where there was nowhere to dodge to besides the other wheel as it started attacking.

>Bloodborne babby dying in tutorial

not surprised

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>>381709167
>OP experiences "stunlock" problem unique to his game
Sorry you had to find out this way, buddy, but you've got palsy.

>>381709167
Tarofags are going to deflect and call you names OP, but the tutorial is genuinely shit and poorly designed. Put it on easy or whatever because it's not worth playing through.

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>>381709167
>Bloodborne player can't beat the tutorial of casual: the game

Holy fuck, Bloodborne fags are pathetic.

>>381710120
There is flinch, but there is no stun lock and there is zero frame lock on dodge, you can break out of anything with dodge. You're an idiot and your shits all fucked up faggot.

>>381716119
>The tutorial is actually magnitudes harder than the entire rest of the game

Not really, the entire game is a cake-walk on Normal and Hard.

You can literally spam dodge for days, just like Bloodborne.

This is the first time I've ever heard of anyone complaining about stunlock in this game. OP I honestly believe that there must be something wrong with your hands, because I've looked around and I can't find a single person with the same complaint as you.

>>381709167
this game is literally a button masher
thanks for confirming that soulsborne series takes zero skill.

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>>381709167

And they say umner /v/ isn't real..

>>381716783
>that aliasing
Jesus christ anon

BUT MUH PHILOSOPHY BUT MUH SEQUEL TO "U WERE THE BAD GUY THE ENTIRE TIME: THE GAME TWIST" BUH MUH ASS
Taro fags are cancer.

>>381716758

>get BB on release
>hear people botching about how hard BSB is
>literally stand perfectly still and spam parry
>it actually dies

>>381710704
>moved past that

implying design decisions now are better than they were 30 years ago

what does leveling up do in this game?
just give more health or what?

>>381716910

Turning on AA in this game fucks it up.

>>381716912
Are you okay?

>>381716710

Luckily there's a chip for scrubs like him.

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same thing happened to me

not sure which button is dodge

>>381709595
WEW LAD

>>381717018
Health and damage.

>>381717206

stupid cute salary man

>>381717203
The game's not even hard even at higher difficulties, and this is coming from someone who's shit at Metal Gear Rising and Bayonetta.

>>381716607

The game's a cakewalk once you have any sort of decent chips. The reason the tutorial is hard on Hard is because you're level 1, have pretty much no good chips aside from an auto-use item (that only works if you don't get one-shot) and can't save at any point for fuck knows whatever reason. Problem with this is the boss sections where you have to run an entire sequence without getting hit ever because it kills on contact so fat lot of good the ONE decent chip you have does. The first wheel encounter, no big deal. The end boss with like 4 different stages? A little more tedious considering you're only 20 minutes into the game. Yeah, Nier Automata gets pretty easy once you gain access to good chips and have enough money to just buy healing items but neither of those things are true in the tutorial, and having to be sent back to the very beginning over getting one-shot is just icing on the shit cake.

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>>381717206
>not sure which button is dodge
How is this even possible?

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>>381714954
true, I choked so hard in my hard playthrough. took me around 4 hours and 5-6 tries. no savepoints is bullshit, when I died at the boss I had to walk away for a couple of hours

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>>381709167
this is one of the worst op's i've seen in the history of posting on 4chan. thanks for the laugh m8

>>381717675
You could have just changed the difficulty to normal for the tutorial. The difficulty can be changed on the fly at any time.

>>381717416
>once you have any sort of decent chips

You don't need chips when you have literally unlimited spamable dodge and all your enemies are slow and clunky as shit, even the cranes.

Only fight that gave me trouble on hard and made me feel like a badass was fighting Yohra flight units as 9S without spamming hacks. Also died to Emil because fucking camera rape.


Seriously, I don't know why they bothered getting Platinum to work on the combat if they were going to make 98% of the game fighting the slowest, most brainless enemies in vidya. Even shades were more challenging.

>>381716607
Have you even played the game? Most RPGs are harder in the beginning since you don't get the good skills/items yet. Automata is a particular bad case because not only is the tutorial awfully designed, it wasn't designed with Hard mode in mind.

>>381717898
I managed to beat Emil at like level 60 just by using chips that pretty much made him kill himself while attacking me, I just had to spam the parry move over and over. I don't know why P* worked on this.

>>381717921
>Have you even played the game?

I'm >>381717921


So yes I have. Stop being bad at video games, especially one where you're OP as fuck.

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>>381709167
I only died a few times during my entire play through, and you managed to die at the tutorial? Just try a little harder, the witcher 3 was harder than this. If you don't want to try you could play it on easy mode and have the game play itself.

>>381717898

Miss ONE dodge though and it's back to the unskippable dialogue and braindead shmup section. That's just needlessly bad design. It's a good boss and a fair challenge but it's soured by having to slog through the entire section all over again just because you mistimed one dodge. What's funny is that later bosses have stealth checkpoints right before the battle so why this wasn't imposed in the tutorial is beyond me when the game is clearly aware of that being a good idea. At least then getting one-shot wouldn't be so obnoxious, just get right back in there and try again.

>>381717768
I know but I'm stubborn as fuck and I wanted to 100% the game on hard after the first playthrough on normal. I ended up burning out mid 9s though. I played something like 60 hours of Nier in a month and the thought of grinding till level 99, upgrade pods and weapons, and finish all the quests was a bit too much.
I shouldn't have deleted my save file

>>381718223

I don't knowwhy P* bothered either. What was the point if you were going to make the enemies easy as piss and give the play chips where they don't even have to do anything?

DUDE BUTTS LMAO

>>381718295
>Miss ONE dodge

How though? How is this possible in the tutorial?

>>381718265
I mean if your posts just boil down to
>git gud
and you can't even provide a logical argument...

There's no reason to post. Here's your last (You).

I finished Automata like a week ago and I think the original's better.

it's a pretty easy game. maybe it's time you switched to the casual tier of games, OP.

>>381718295
>bad design

I agree about that.

>>381718639

Fuck off retard. I'm not even defending this game's shitty mechanics, you're just asshurt.

>>381709167
>play it
>get to the ladder section
>fap like crazy to 2b ass
>finish fapping
>close the game
>rinse and repeat

And that's how I play this game

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>>381716710
>I've looked around

Interesting seeing as there's at least 3 complaints about it in this thread alone besides my own.

More complaints about stunlock after 2 seconds of googling:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=232297382
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/370882265/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/524220/discussions/0/135511913386867383/

Really makes you think.

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>neogaf

>>381718638

It's the tutorial. The dodge timing is generous but you're still not even an hour into the game and those tutorial bosses really aren't much easier than most of what the game throws at you. That tutorial end boss is more "sink or swim" than you think it is.

>>381718953

Did you get stunlocked?

>>381719225

It really isn't. Once you've realized you can spam dodge from fighting the first group of slowbots and testing it on the first crane's swipe, you should have zero problems. Then again people are dumb and we have great summer themed threads like these.

>>381719586

It's not a problem until that really long end boss. Spotless dodging over a multi-stage boss 20 minutes into the game is a bit heavy regardless of how generous dodge timing is. The fact that you get bumped back to the very beginning if you miss is what makes it tedious, which is sad because again, it's a perfectly good boss otherwise. It's being kicked that far back that makes it annoying. Even older titles weren't that unforgiving, you had to at least run out of lives before being booted back that far.

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>>381709167

I like how you're mentioning Bloodborne in hopes people won't think you're a casual, when it's the most casual From game since AC V.

>>381711218
>Two minutes

No boss in the game uses a single attack for 120 seconds straight.
Get your story straight before baiting.

>>381720004
I'm mentioning bloodborne because it's what I immediately started playing afterward. Wasn't a particularly hard game either. Took a few tries to get used to but after that it was smooth sailing until Gehrman whooped my ass repeatedly.

>>381719880
>Spotless dodging

There's literally no skill involved. You LITERALLY mash dodge.

>>381720202

If dodging was all it took to win then sure, but you also have to attack to get anywhere. Yeah, yeah, choose your timing wisely and all that but point being you have to drop the dodge game to win at some point, and when you get one shot any time you drop the dodge game is dangerous.

>>381718295
"Sometimes I wonder about what cruel God set up this system, and if we'll ever get to kill him"
You're getting trolled by taro irl. He feeds on your tears.

>>381720451

He did say something about being a final boss waiting to be overthrown.

>>381720004
ACV is shit but it's not really "casual".

>>381709167

Pretty good bait, but your point about the game's shitty save system is valid for the most part.

>>381718223
>I don't know why P* worked on this.

I'd like to know as well. Nothing in this game is challenging in the slightest, even a mob of machines 50 levels higher than you are not match for your ability to spam dodge with impunity, and abusing your pod. Why offer such fast paced combat if all the enemies literally just stand around waiting to be hit?

>Dark Souls Babby beats game
>thinks he's hot shit
>Goes to play a game that isn't garbage
>Gets BTFO
>Cries on /v/

I laugh every fucking time.

>>381720698
>Implying dark souls is garbage
>Implying nier 1 or 2 are hard

Vh is bullshit, hard is only difficult till about halfway through A and Emil.

>>381720004
>You'll never have a maid 2B

>>381720424
>but you also have to attack to get anywhere

Going for a riposte after a perfect dodge gives you invincibility frames, and you can literally go back to spamming dodge after whichever riposte you chose.

>I am OP and can suck dick like no one else

Thanks OP, this information will be useful for the next generation.

>>381709167
Damn OP you sure at shit at video games.

>>381720424
>point being you have to drop the dodge game to win at some point

Yeah when the enemy stops attacking for a bit which every boss does. It terms of the two cranes, they do stop so you can keep spamming pod fire.

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>>381720698
>game that isn't garbage
>nier automata thread

>>381720906

Which works well on some attack patterns but not all of them. For example, that would be pretty dangerous in the double wheel section as the saws are one continuous attack. You can dodge spam that one away but you'd have to be careful on your spatial awareness to not get blindsided by the other wheel. Gotta be careful with your attack timing on that one. Hardly impossible, but approach it carefully. Tossing a careless counter out could get you killed.

>>381720841
Who said either NieR game is hard? I just said that Dark Souls fags think they're gaming gods after beating their OMGSOHARD game and when they try to play something that isn't shit their ego is broken because they have to either realize that maybe they're not that good or they have to double down and insulate by claiming every other game is shit.

Also Dark Souls games ARE bad.

>>381721246

Took you 7 minutes to come up with this zinger huh?

>>381721450
>reddit spacing

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>>381721246
Yep. Now, what could I mean by that? You can puzzle it out, right?

>>381721397


You can dodge in any direction so it doesn't really matter. Like most games the real boss is the camera.

>>381721565
that nier is a shit game?

>>381721523
>Dark Souls fags are the ones that came up with the shitty REBBIT SPESS maymay
Why am I not surprised?

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>>381721630
Wrong, try again.

>>381720698
6/10 bait

>>381721657
You're the one bringing up dark souls here buddy

>>381721630
Yes

>>381721246
>assmad Darksouls fag
>posting pictures of bill cosby

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>>381721720
>Half the thread is NEAR SUCKS BECAUSE DARK SOULDS IS BETTER

>>381721710
T-that's a lewd ass skeleton holy shit

>>381721410
>a person who plays a video game failed at another different video game, clearly all people who play the first video game are terrible dipshit retarded morons also that game is dumb did i mention that the people who play that game are dumb and stupid
Lel

>>381721831
They both play exactly the same. This is an objective fact.

>>381721720

OP mentioned BB, which a lot of people who started with DaS live because it's an easier version of the games for them so they can feel like a badass with their anime speedline dodges that take next to no stamina, and Parry windows wider than 2B's ass.

>>381721831
>ctrl + f "dark souls"
>first thing is some fag calling it "le epic babby game fuckin darksouls amirite xd"
so, you're my prom date you ugly sack of shit?

>>381721953
2Bs ass is not wide! It's compact and cute!

>>381721831
From what I can tell the thread is largely people telling OP to git gud in a piss easy game. Game is shit so I came here to shitpost a reaction image about Nier 2 cause it sucks dick. I don't see many people talking about dark souls mate.

But for real though it's literally impossible to get stunlocked for two minutes because all of his attacks are like 5 seconds long

>Soulsfag being terrible

oh boy what's new

>>381721831
Here's your (You), dumb dragonposter

>>381722080
This. To add onto that there hasn't been a single good game for the last 10 years.

>>381717675
>>381714954
>>381709404
I started playing this game on Hard after blazing through the demo. Couldn't get past the fucking tutorial and had to restart so many times I gave up, about 1 hour and a half in too. I thought I was just fucking awful and didn't realize so many others had the same issue as I did.

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>>381721892
When it happens over and over again, you begin to see a pattern my man. It's all because it's marketed as HARDER THAN DIAMONDS HOLY SHIT so when people eventually beat it they think they're better than they really are, which leads them to have huge egos which are then in turn shattered one they discover that other games don't immediately bow down to them. It's not everybody but you see it a fucking ton.

>>381722043
>Bloodbourne isn't a Dark Souls game
My fucking sides

>>381722153
>for the last 10 years
>implying video games were ever good
gay

>>381722180

The demo was more lenient on damage output. I beat the demo on Hard but then in the main game everything does a shitton of damage with bosses killing you in one hit. It was definitely not the same.

>>381722271
Bloodbourne is about as much a Dark Souls game as a game like RuneScape is an MMORPG. Idiot.

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>>381722080
>Game is shit so I came here to shitpost a reaction image about Nier 2 cause it sucks dick.
Why are you so mad that you can't spam rolls and have a million checkpoints? Or is it that the game doesn't suck your dick about how hard it is? Or that death could actually have a consequence at any point? Or that a videogame can be entertaining?

>>381720004
Bloodborne is the hardest souls game though, ds2 or ds3 are way more casual.

>>381722414
You don't like jean shorts wearing underage lying on the internet?

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>>381722417
>Same exact gameplay by the same exact devs
>ITS NOT A FRANCHISE GAME BECAUSE IT HAS A DIFFERENT NAME STOOPIT

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>>381722364
I saw that Insane was just 'get hit once and you die' and figured Hard mode would be a tad bit more difficult than normal without being to ridiculous like Insane sounded.

How the fuck is 'two shots and you die' any god damn different?

>>381722364

No boss kills you in a single hit on hard. They might take 90% of your HP, but only on V. Hard do they OHKO

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>Commence operations to attack facility under occupation by robot forces.
>Only one of your combat units makes it even close to their objective.
>The rest get shot down on the way there.

Yorha are designed to fight robots.

>>381722417
Is your post supposed to be satirical?

>>381722446
>Bloodborne is the hardest souls game

lmao

>>381709404

This. It wasn't a talking point back in March it certainly shouldn't be one now. Stay stupid /v/ and if people truly can't figure something like this out they're lin the wrong hobby period

>>381718969
>citing neogaf
can this get any more hilarious

>>381722549

Tutorial bosses OHKO on Hard and if you don't grind/have good chips so do some of the early bosses. It SHOULD stop being a problem after the underground Adam/Eve encounter at the latest but at base stats those bosses OHKO and you use good chips to mitigate that.

>>381722630
The chalice dungeons and the old hunters are the hardest parts of the souls series, bloodborne reaches a higher difficulty than the other games.

>>381722446
>Bloodborne is the hardest souls game though

Yeah, no. Only for the first 20 minutes because you're probably not used to such a fast paced Dark Souls game but after that it's pretty fucking easy.

>>381722849
Name another part of the souls series harder than the chalice dungeons.

>>381722537

>two shots and you die
>two

That's a world of difference in Automata. If something doesn't kill you in one hit it is absurdly easy to shrug it off and only gets easier as you find more powerful chips. Only OHKO attacks are of any real consequence.

>>381722846
>>381722951

Nier Automata's tutorial section apparently.

>>381722271
>Bloodbourne isn't a Dark Souls game
My fucking sides
hey faggot, news flash, nobody was talking about dark souls, you said "Half the thread is NEAR SUCKS BECAUSE DARK SOULDS IS BETTER", nobody was saying this, faggot.

>>381722951
Maneaters
Capra, Smough/Ornstein
Smelter Demon
Dragon Armor(?)

>>381723115
The hardest part of the game being the beginning is some shit.

>>381723204

Which it's not funilly enough. I bet OP rushed the tutorial and don't bother learning anything because he's a SoulsbornePro who don't need no tutorial.

>>381723204
>Smelter Demon
>hard
It's literally the same "dodge this three hit combo with a delayed finisher then punish" fight as every other boss in DaS2

>>381723146
>OP is a DSbabby bitching that he couldn't beat the tutorial section of a non-shit video game
>one half of the thread is people laughing at him being shit
>other half is YEAH BUT DARK SOULS

Learn how to read nigga.

>>381723356
I should've clarified; on HARD it's the most difficult part of the game.

Obvious bait aside, I did what an anon said last night and hacked A2 four times during the fight, and holy shit. Just wanted to say thanks if you're here.

>>381723417
All the fucking souls games follow this formula, you dumb bitch

>>381723204
I'm assuming you haven't played bloodborne now since I don't think anyone who has will deny that stuff like the defiled chalice is way more difficult.

>>381723436

Not really. Flight units fight is much harder because of the reach of their swords.

>>381723504
Hacking seems like it trivializes everything in the game.

>>381723615

Have you even played it?

My mentioning hacking A2 is purely emotional.

>>381723520
Only the bad ones, i.e. DS2 and 3

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>>381723504
tfw overleveled and she can't survive that many hacks

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There are a few litmus tests for action-y, combat-y kind of games I have. After I beat the saw arm boss thing I tried to jump into the abyss. I could not. I then stood still in front of enemies to see how long it would take to kill me. I noticed I was being auto-healed by some healing items. I sped up the process by manually using the items prematurely. It still took over two minutes to die.

This game does not punish you for acting retarded. Into the recycle bin it goes.

>>381723542
Go ahead; God forbid difficulty be subjective and others have opinions formed from their own perspective.

>>381723743
I hacked her twice during the fight, actually. I don't think I can stand to go through any more despair in that game, anon. Pascal's story ruined me.

>>381723504
What happens?

>>381723615

Hacking breaks the game so damn hard. Chips already kind of did as well but hacking is just ludicrously strong.

>dying in a tutorial for a game that literally starts you with an autoheal chip

bloodborne babies in a nutshell

>>381723791

Being one shotted is the ONLY punishment in Automata. No other damage dealing matters.

>>381723615
>>381723884

It's an easy out forboeople too shit to play properly as 9S.

>there are people who don't realize 9S has heavy attacks

>>381723791
In fairness, it's not really supposed to be action-y kind of game like a Bayonetta. It's very much a story-focused RPG like the original, just with better melee combat.

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>>381709167
I switched to normal for the tutorial, then went to hard. My biggest gripe is the overworld.
>have to run everywhere
>wide, open spaces with nothing in them
>fetch quests involving going from point A to B with nothing happening
Combat's fun, don't get me wrong. But the walking, holy shit.

>>381724296

Jump on a moose, stupid.

>getting my dick handed to me by the naked robot baby since all of his attacks one-shot on hard
>just stand at a distance and gun him down
>10 hours later he's dead
WHY IS THE MOST BORING WAY TO KILL SOMETHING THE EASIEST?

>>381710704
>How dare a developer make a decision to mesh story and game mechanics together instead of just making things super easy for me
>How pretentious
The save is restricted the way it is because it makes fucking sense within the story for it to work that way
It can fuck you over if you're unlucky or shit but it wasn't a bad decision

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>>381724063
I didn't realize he did until I looked it up just now. Wasn't mentioned in the game at all nor in the tutorial logs. Was it supposed to be obvious?

>>381724296
>Did as many sidequests as I could before jumping in the crater for the first time
>mfw teleporting unlocked right after it

I honestly didn't mind because I enjoyed even that walking, but man I wasted a lot of time.

>>381724830

It's what you get for experimenting I guess. Forgot Soulsbourne babbies needed their hands held, and YouTube e-celebs to tell them how to play the game.

>>381724925
This. I was enraged about that but was having fun walking, running, gliding, and riding my boar everywhere for a time.

>>381716912
>He thinks the plot of Nier is "you were the bad guy the entire time"
t. people who literally didn't get it

>>381724925

How did nobody know about the ability to ride the moose and boars? Did you not play the first game?

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>>381724423
>Moose
>Not a boar

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>>381724998
You are really high on your ass fumes at the moment for something so trivial.

>>381724998
>and YouTube e-celebs to tell them how to play the game

The truth behind this is actually scary.

>>381724296
Once you unlock the fast travel, the thing that allows you to ride the animals without the bait and the speed chips, moving through the world becomes a lot easier.
>>381724925
Man, the same thing happened to me. I didn't mind either but it sure made me feel a little dumb. I just didn't want to miss any sidequest.

>>381720694

It's piss easy for a Platinum game and you can tell that people who complain about the opening stage are just rehashing 3-4 month old memes from other people that clearly never played it. Between this one, the ending thing (which has been done before anyway) and the "I fapped to this" for a game that features no such deliberate and obvious moments that I can think of you really get a sense for just how many people are memeing versus those that actually played the game.

Who knows, maybe the next generation will actually play games instead of just shitposting about them on twitter

I've got almost all the endings, but my motivation to find all the enemies, upgrade all the weapons, is fading FAST.

MAYBE I SHOULD JUST do ending E now and erase all my shit

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>>381722431
>can't spam rolls
>the entire thread is stating you have an infinite spammable dodge

>>381725293
>and you can tell that people who complain about the opening stage are just rehashing 3-4 month old memes from other people that clearly never played it.
OR they just started the game on Hard without knowing it was actually pretty difficult in the beginning. Before you get chips and even the ability to save, it's quite a wall to get over.

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What do you guys think of my pet?

>>381709595
Wow PC truly is the master race.

>>381722080

Funny that you would use my exact definition of Piss Easy which everyone I know IRL that has actually played the game agrees on. They all agree that it's not nearly what the internet makes it out to be in everything that that means. The internet made 7/10 sort of affair feel like just about the stupidest thing in gaming in 2017 and now it's just trying to start shit with the Souls fanbase assuming anybody here played any of those games either.

>>381725518
They're fun as fuck. I loved playing as machines, especially the faster ones. I hated how his whole body was his hitbox, though.

>got up to the bulletproof bots on hard since i couldn't slash due to AMD drivers
bought it day one it was on steam. didn't get too far, but kinda stopped playing even though they ended up releasing a fix that wasn't downgrading. got a better gfx card too, maybe i'll give it a shot again soon.

>>381725607
Are you talking about Nier or Dark Souls being piss easy?

I don't really see the relevance of Soulsfags ITT outside of OP mentioning Bloodborne, I just found Nier to be a shit game and gladly wanted to come to a thread to call it shit too.

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>try to hack A2 four times
>she dies in 3 attempts


Am I being memed?

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>>381709595
>That ass jiggling

>>381725214

It's not really trivial as his heavy attacks are really useful.

See >>381717602

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>yfw

>>381723791

I'm kind of glad I managed to finaggle this game for like 75% off. I still agree that it was a unique experience in both terms of positives and negatives but it's nowhere even close to what the internet made it out to be and somehow I'm not surprised. It feels like there's the memetic reception of this game that the shrieking stupid internet had and that the one me and my buds had.

>>381709595
God I want this mod but I don't want set up an account for just this

>>381724151

And yet the story kind of sucks or at best is uneven as all fuck. YMMV considerably based on how much of an anime weeb you are and possibly whether your 15-25 or 25-35.

Is the original Nier worth playing? Is the soundtrack as good as Nier Automata?

>>381726476

Yes, and it's better in my opinion.

>>381726476
The soundtrack is as good as Automatas and depending on your personal preference maybe even better. The sound direction however is nowhere near as good which isn't really a hit against Nier as very few games use sound as well as Automata.
It's still a good game well worth playing, it's just a bit more rough around the edges.

>>381711218

You died on normal in the tutorial level. Good fucking job. Also press R2 you dumbass. The dodge in this game is extremely responsive and overpowered. You can make it through the entire first level without taking a single hit if you press it every time the enemies make a loud PING noise and their eyes flash red.

I've beat the whole game on normal and some parts were too easy, I'm doing hard now and a lot of things kill me in one hit. I'm not complaining. I'm getting good. I'll die on a boss 5-10 times, learn the pattern and wreck it.

You're probably born in like 2005 and never played NES games.

Is this worth 40 bucks?

>>381725607

Nier Automata really feels like a social media centric kind of "experience" and more of a rallying point for a specific type of fan makeup more than anything else.

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Is there a mod that adds lock-on to Hard mode? Hard with lock-on would be perfect. Not having lock-on is a pain more than a challenge.

>>381727151

Depends, try the demo, watch some random spoiler free gameplay and see if it's for you.

Definitely worth $40 in my personal opinion though. One of the most beautiful games of the year.

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>>381727151
It's worth $60 desu

>>381709167

Maybe you'll stop being a fucking pussy if someone stops taking it easy on you.

>>381725864

Nier. Dark Souls actually requires you to learn shit and adapt to situations. Nier Automata once I figured out the combination of Deadly Heal, Auto Item and Auto-Heal and Melee Defense I think I died maybe once to a frame trap situation when I wasn't really focusing. Other than that nothing from that point even came close to killing me. It's like the one guy said either you get one shot by something or damage barely matters.

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Just think about how much would people like this cry about DoD1 and 3 final chapters. Still bad b8 desu

>>381711313
Oh oh I know Bloodborne too.

>>381709167
>Explain to me what the purpose of limiting saves in 2017 is.

You can only save in places where there's a station to upload your memories. It's actually quite integral to the story. You'd know that if you got past the first level.

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>>381709167
>slowmo autoheal keeps going while completely ignoring any button inputs I press as I'm perpetually hit by these faggot wheels
>die

DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE
I PRESSED THE BUTTONS AND NOTHING HAPPENED
WHAT THE FUCK
SO STUPID

>>381715426
>>unironically defending stunlocks and unskippable cutscenes

The level of stunlocking you're describing can't happen in Nier: Automata without glitches. It's literally not possible. No one is defending stunlocking, they're telling you that what you're experiencing is so far outside the bounds of what the game is designed to do that it was either a massive bug or you're literally fucking retarded.

As for the unskippable cutscenes: Why the fuck would you skip cutscenes in a game where more than half the draw is the story?

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>dies to one of the best tutorials of the year, and easiest if you're on normal
>gets salty as fuck
>I'm not a casual though guys look I mentioned bloodborne haha

>>381726476
Absolutely. Honestly, the only thing I think Automata really beats the original at is the melee combat and a more varied take on the multiple routes.

If you're confused about the whole Gestalt/Replicant version thing, don't be. They're the same exact game outside of the main character's age and relationship to Yonah and many people myself included actually prefer Papa Nier.

>>381711040
>There was nothing hard about it in the least bit. The enemies are extremely predictable and the only time I got hit was having nowhere to run from two fucking wheels leading to a corner stunlock.

>The game isn't hard, it's just obnoxious
>What the fuck I'm getting stunlocked.
>I can't dodge what the fuck.
>Nothing I could do.

Oh hey Phil, does this mean we're getting TIHYDP Nier:Automata soon?

You have 10 seconds to name a game released in the past 5 years that was widespread popular on /v/ that went without a bunch of contrarian threads talking about how it's overrated and not as good as people think

>>381727996
>Why the fuck would you skip cutscenes in a game where more than half the draw is the story

He said he did the intro thing already. Tbh that's kinda some gay shit, I'd be mad too if I died and had to redo it.

>>381728217
Shovel Knight

How can anyone die or lose in this game? You can just spam the dodge button constantly and get by.

>>381725878
>being overleveled

pathetic

>>381728339
Shovel knight might be the best answer I can get but even then i'm sure there have been a bunch of threads calling it lmaoindieretro platformer shit

>>381728407
Sometimes you get one shot

Impressive. I didn't know there are so many people unwilling to drop the difficulty to normal on parts that are too hard for them.
You'd rather quit the game entirely than possibly ruin your "gamer cred" by playing a part on normal?
Suck it up.

>>381728447

I'm level 40 though. I didn't even do that many sidequests as I wasn't anal about 100%'ing my first time. It's not my fault they game throws levels at you like candy.

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>>381725878

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UW0sXZx53Q

If you want to experience it yourself, go into the debug menu and make it so they takes zero damage.


>>381728447

To be perfectly fair, it's not his fault. Leveling in this game is just too easy.

>>381728593
or worse, complain about it on tibetan tapestry channel

>>381728593

Expect no less from Soulstards.

>>381725114
I didn't (though I bought it last week and have been making my way through it, it plays a lot better than what I've been lead to believe).

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This game has a lot of problems and shortcomings, but getting stunlocked like a retard in the fucking tutorial isn't one of them.

>>381729042
Why is she riding a cow?

>>381729737
ask your mother

>>381729737

That's a reindeer you moron.

>>381729773

It's clearly a caribou.

>>381725439
Apparently it isn't that spammable since he got stunlocked (^:

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>>381727480
>Dark Souls actually requires you to learn shit and adapt to situations.
You can't tell me the gameplay is DEEP when Limp Bizkit could write the strategy guide.

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>>381729042
>"that's kind of cool but I don't see what the big deal i-"
>it zooms out
Good shit

Also holy shit 9S's Jap voice sounds fucking awful

>>381729897
You can dodge out of the recovery animation after a hit
There is no stunlock, just retards dodging into attacks instead of away from them

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>>381709167
>Explain to me what the purpose of limiting saves in 2017 is.
>I'll wait.

Taro just wanted you to gid good or get lost.

Thanks for choosing the latter and making this hilarious thread.


>>381730090

In the case of both Nier games, I'd say the English VA is better than the Japanese VA for both.

>>381730090
I feel like I'm missing something?
Am I missing something?

>>381709167
>the PC playerbase is so bad they can't beat a tutorial for a piss easy game
leave the good games to the big kids, Square

>>381730191
As a subfag, the Dub for N:A is really good. The only negative is 2B sounding more emotional in English than Japanese, but the performance itself is still good enough that I'd chalk that up to a director choice/mistake rather than the VA's. 9S is great, though.

>OP is literally worse than DSP
let this go down in history

>>381727807
>>381730362

DSP actually died on Normal so he would've probably ragequit on Hard.

>>381730191
Can't speak for Automata as a whole since I haven't done a playthrough in Jap yet, but I definitely agree with the original. Especially Weiss and Yonah.

>>381730549

It's not that the Japanese voice acting is bad, just the English is that good. Only debatable one is 2B.

>>381725330
Do it and then screenshot it all

I did

It felt wrong not legit 100%ing this game after bothering to with the first

>>381717898
>Seriously, I don't know why they bothered getting Platinum to work on the combat if they were going to make 98% of the game fighting the slowest, most brainless enemies in vidya. Even shades were more challenging.

Fucking this god damn.

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>>381730191
>the English VA is better than the Japanese
The dub is surprisingly good but don't kid yourself anon. English 2B was ruined in the localisation of her script and most of the characters are superior in nip. As good as English Pascal was, it doesn't hold a candle to Aoi Yuki.

Is it just me or are the bosses in Automata really boring? There are some really good ones like Simone and the final Adam fight but then you have shit like the spider ball thing that gets rehashed a few times. Really disappointing since if there's one thing the original did right it was making the bossfights memorable.

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>>381731084
Suck a dick, Sanae. Oh wait, you'd like that, you slut.

>>381731084

If you say so, weeaboo.

>>381731084

2B is the only one who is arguably better in nip. The rest of them are shit in Nip, especially 9S and the robots+pods.


>>381731114

They are. Especially compared to Nier. Majority of the bosses in this game are balls of some sort.

>>381709167
>Retards dropped $60 on this game.
Kek japs are the new jews.

OP here. Just replayed the intro.

Turns out it wasn't stunlock, just slowmo from autoheal chip throwing my dodges off so I get hit immediately after the slowmo ends. Turned off the gay autoheal and beat it on my second try.

Game is still shit for not having a save point immediately after that stupid fucking shmup bullshit at the beginning.

Fuck you guys, all of you kill yourselves. Dumb fucking faggots.

>>381732513
>just slowmo from autoheal chip throwing my dodges off so I get hit immediately after the slowmo ends
Sure thing pal ;)

>>381709167
>Dodging literally makes you invincible
>Have like 50 heal items in the tutorial
>Have a chip that will automatically use said heal items
>You can always pause -> heal manually even on hard

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>>381731425
2B is superior in nip
A2 is superior in nip
042 is superior in nip
153 is superior in nip
6O is superior in nip
21O is superior in nip
Commander is superior in nip
Devola and Popola are superior in nip
Adam and especialy Eve are superior in nip
Pascal is superior in nip

The only characters you could legitimately claim to be better in English are 9S and Emil.

>>381732719
>>Dodging literally makes you invincible
Stop the fucking presses, a mechanic to make you not take damage works as intended? Fuck this game, 0/10 I'm too hardcore for this shit.

I think I'm probably bad at games and I didn't even die in the intro.

I stopped playing after the big robot in the city though and the ground opened up though because my pirated version kept crashing

>>381732749

2B is the only arguable one. The rest were so mediocre in both languages it barely makes a difference.

>>381732749
>and especialy Eve are superior in nip

Only problem with Eve was he was voiced by Noctis which threw me off. Nip Eve's screams sound retarded though. Shitty over-the-top Japanese laughter sounds stupid, but then again I'm not a weeaboo.

>>381733298
>Nip Eve's screams sound retarded though
They do, but English Eve is worse. That was just a comparitive list.

>>381732749
>042 is superior in nip
>153 is superior in nip
Nah

>>381732749
>6O is superior in nip
>21O is superior in nip
>Commander is superior in nip
>Devola and Popola

>tfw can't tell the difference because all nip women sound the same

>>381732749

Are you kidding? The pods sound terrible in Japanese. Best thing about the English pods is how they sound less like pods the further you get into the game. The Japanese voices sound robotic the entire time.

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>>381732749

>being this much of a weeb

>>381733569

yeah was thinking this on my second playthrough in nip

>>381729042
It's such a fucking travesty that the game overlevels you through normal play.

Dynamic HP scaling on the bosses at least would have been nice. You can ruin fights like Adam and 21O by killing them too quickly, and the alternative is to sit around like a muppet waiting for them to finish their dialogue.

>>381733569
I feel the same way, they have a specific 'cute' way of speaking that's really samey across all voices.

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>>381733903
>mfw I prefer when Jap actresses talk more normally than try to cute it up

>>381733569
>>381733903

Commander is noticeable as her voice is the deepest, but yeah the rest a sound arike.

>>381733887

I did a second playthrough as rushed it, skipping heaps of fights and still managed to hit Lv. 30 by route C.

>>381734053
The only way to balance the combat is to purposefully gimp yourself, by playing on Hard and equipping defence-oriented chips then blowing your money on healing items instead of weapon upgrades.

>>381709167
>play some Bloodborne instead

Is this your idea of a mic drop?

It just makes you sound all the more pathetic.

Summer hits /v/ the hardest doesn't it

Just bought this game from the steam sale and I died on the tutorial boss (2 gears on arms at once) as well. I'm ashamed...

>>381735118
Mash dodge.
You're literally invincible.

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I think this thread warrants the creation of a new casual filter image.

>>381735450

Why is there an E model there? I thought they were rare or some shit.

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>>381727807

>>381735534
Their official role during a mission is to kill any allies in danger of being left behind.

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>>381727807
Fucking kek

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>>381727807

FUCKING KOJIMA 2.0

>>381731114

All of the gameplay is pretty boring imo outside of a few of the bosses that you mentioned.

Once you get 1/3 of the way in, you've seen everything it has to offer.

Story and themes are fucking great, though.

>>381709167
>Explain to me what the purpose of limiting saves in 2017 is.
There's literally a story reason for it.

>>381734573
Not sure why you faggots are still this hungup on the bloodborne comment. It's what I started playing after this shitty game, don't see the big deal.

>>381709167
This is a bait post no one can be this dumb. You can call the game bad all you want, but I honestly cant believe anyone can be this bad.

>>381736848
>a person plays a game for a maximum of 20 minutes and dies to the boss of the level
>wow holy shit lmao how could you possibly be this bad wow lmfao dude git gud bro wooooooooow

>>381736413
Wait i've played the game for about 70 hours. There's limited saves? If there anything the game let you save too much.

>>381736848

There was one of these hourly when the game released. /v/ ain't what it used to be.

>>381736947
Lower the difficulty.