>Sonic Forces will probably be decent >Sonic Mania will

>>381665729

I dont care until I get my motherfucking comic.

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Mania is a game I have been waiting for literally 23 years now.

It's the first time in decades since I legit had the thought of "oh god I hope I don't die before this comes out". I couldn't be fucking happier, it's like all the fucking shit the came before, the Sonic 06 disaster, the Sonic 4 fucking insult, everything, was worth it.

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Why don't Sega of Japan make their own Sonic Manga series?

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>>381666042

here u go

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>>381666597

I knew I'd get that in response.

>>381666597
Fuck you Penders

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I feel fine
It looks like Sonic is finally going to have a good year of gaming

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>>381665729
>Sonic Mania GOTY
I'm a Sonic fan and you're a bit excited here.
There is no way that the GOTY will be Mania or Forces.

It will be most likely a battle between Zelda BotW and Super Mario Odyssey.

>>381667191
Well, possible personal GOTY at the very least. Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 & Knuckles are among my favorite games, and they both have flaws. If Mania rectifies those flaws, then I honestly don't think anything this year could beat it for me, and i've loved a lot of games this year.

>>381666597
>that fucking nigger in a space suit
every time

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>>381666574

Because Japan doesn't really have the same passion for Sonic as the west does. It wouldn't last that long or be as memorable/memetic as the comic was.

I'm reading StC right now. I'm enjoying it far more than the Archie comics.

>>381667474
Does Ken Penders even still make his comic?

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Will sega let a bunch of western fanboys keep making sonic games after they dunk on Team Sonic?

>>381668067
If Mania does well probably, and Mania will probably do well.

>>381667474
Wait, who drew that? Tyson?

>>381668339
Yup.

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>>381668052

Allegedly. The comic's probably been done for years and he's just waiting for Archie Sonic to officially be cancelled before releasing it.

>>381668439
>Hesse
CUTE!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jV4WrCW-5Lw

LIGHTS

>>381666597
the fuck is this
i haven't followed sonic since late 2013 what the hell is that thing

>>381668396
>best sonic comic artist acknowledging the worst.
Penders should feel honored

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I don't care about Sonic's games that much but i hope it does well enough to revive everyone's faith into the franchise. I sincerely believe that no classic vidya mascot such as him deserves the fate of having shit games churned out all the time.

>>381665729
Just need Adventure 3 with expanded chao garden and I'll be alright

Mania looks good.
Forces might not be so bad since it has the same writer as Colors.
Fuck Boom.
The Archie comic will be missed, but only because it died such an unfair, abrupt death--it deserved better than that. The SatAM cast can stay gone.

>>381665729
>both Forces and Mania looking great
>Boom will finally die after the show ends and we'll never speak of it again
>Adventure is firmly planted as a bad idea in Sonic Teams mind
Unfortunately, the comic got put in a coma right as it was hitting a stride and took the last issue of Megadrive with it so who knows when or if we'll ever lay eyes on that.

>>381669549
>Forces might not be so bad since it has the same writer as Colors
If anything it'll be bad because it has the same writers as Colors and Lost World. Pontaff couldn't blow harder if you fed them beans.

>>381669710

At least he knows how to be funny. If anyone can wring some enjoyment from the terrible story and fuck-awful premise, its him.

>>381668439
What's with old white people and MURRIKA?

>>381666597

DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW

>>381669789

>Pontaff
>funny

BALDY

>>381669789
Colors writing was alright but Lost World's was terrible like the fuck happened there?

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>>381669789
>At least he knows how to be funny
What you just posted was funnier than anything either of those hacks wrote in a Sonic game. Maybe they should hire you instead.

>>381668439

>Hesse

can we just pay this nigga to do all sonic cartoons/comics for the rest of time

>>381670402
A collaboration between him and Ian is the ideal.

>>381669549

>The SatAM cast can stay gone.

I wish you would stay gone, Boco.

I'm really looking forward to Mania. Like, only 7/6 or so weeks to go.
I'm cautious for Forces.

>>381670402
It's funny to think he started by making fun of everything wrong with Sonic at the time

>>381670527

Out of love, clearly.

>>381668439
What the fuck is even going on in Penders' drawing?

>>381668439
I want Tyson to do more shit with Sonic. He knows the character better then anyone else.

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>>381670527

Nah that's exactly why he's the best. He knows the franchise in and out. He's not just some dude drawing comic pages for a quick buck. He cares.

>>381670682

The American Revolution

>>381667474
>>381666574
>>381668052
>>381668439
>>381670701
Just imagine the Comics adapted in an anime.
So much wasted potential.

>>381666597
i expected sonichu or tails

>>381670701

>Amy

CUTE

>>381670696

Someone post the animation from the pre-order trailer at the end

>>381670701
I like Ice Cap fine, but i'd love a Genesis style ice level set at night. Also, classic Amy is adorable.

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>>381670794

>>381668870
I saw this earlier today. I like what he added to the mix. Can't wait to hear Studiopolis Act 2.

>>381670924

It's really the stumble that makes this.

>>381670957
Actually Falk was the one who mastered the track

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>>381670764

the nips would screw it up somehow

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnfNWe-HHsI

I wish this was in the game proper. Something about it just feels right. It's like when I first played Sonic Colors and heard the opening theme. I get a feelin like everything's finally gonna work out for this blue fucker after all these years.

>>381671162
Endless Possibilities was the first track in ages that made me think that, you know, Sonic's gonna be okay. But honestly now he's in a very good place which is great. Good for him.

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>>381665729
Whenever I think of 90's sonic, I get this feeling of deep sadness. It makes me think back to a time when everything was fine and the world seemingly wasn't all that bad. I get this same feeling whenever I watch older anime, or visit my parents for the holidays.


Thank you for reading my blogpost.

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>>381665729
Anyone own any of these blind box figures? Is the quality good for the price? Was thinking of buying a few for my own birthday.

>>381671262
>>381671162
Endless Possibilities and Reach for the Stars really went for that "Sonic will be fine guys" vibe, and this does too.

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>>381671095
>That last panel
Cheeky fucks, I'm both amused and triggered all the same.

You know what game I'd like to return? Sonic Runners.
For a free mobile game it was a surprisingly competent Sonic experience and the music was fantastic. If you actually were good at the game you didn't even have to do any freemium shit.

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>>381669573
Forces looks like shit though.

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It took one simple image, then I knew, the blue hedgehog will be okay.

>>381672185
Says you, nigger.

>>381672218
I'm just amazed how well Tyson captured their personalities in one shot.

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>>381672041

here u go

>>381672354
More like says everyone with any taste.

>>381672407
Oh! They're doing a sequel? That's great to hear.

>>381672453
>More like says everyone with no taste
ftfy, nigger

>>381672481
Nah, mine was better.

>>381672218
>Knux is partially cut
REEEE

>>381672185
Looks like we've only seen the first few levels of each character and i'm withholding judgement. I liked Colors and Generations fine, so I don't think Forces will be a downgrade from those. More of the same probably, which I wish they'd try and improve on it more, but not shit.

>>381672479

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvTeabu8nho

It's a reboot by Gameloft.

>>381672218
When I say this, I don't say this lightly

I would suck A LOT of penis to get an anime like adventure in this style.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UCYU7UwyQs

artstyle was fucking designed for sonic

>>381672528
>Nah, mine was worse
ftfy

>>381672696
Keep deluding yourself that those shit physics and level design is anything but that, your loss after all.

>>381672656
I'm not getting my hopes up, but I hope Tyson did some animations for the game's intro or something.

>>381665729
I'm pretty hyped for Sonic Forces cause while other people hate it I really like modern sonic boost gameplay and I just want more of him in new stages like Unleashed. I like to speedrun through the stages a lot. Also mods. Have like 100h in Generations cause of it.

>>381672894
Sounds more like your loss, nigger.
>stop liking what I don't like
Autism.

>>381672923
Enjoy being forced (lol) to play through shitty """classic""" Sonic stages and the OC stages, which are longer than modern Sonic's. Speaking of modern Sonic he's mostly 2D AGAIN. Forces is a fucking mess and a mistake.

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>>381665729
Mania is definitely going to be my GOTY, I've been hyped for this game like no other as a massive classicfag. I can't wait to get my hands on the game and play through all of the stuff they haven't shown yet, it'll be like running through my childhood again but so much better and I'm so fucking ready for it.
Forces looks alright so far but I'm not particularly interested in it.

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>>381668439

>Hesse

You win this one my friend.

>>381673058
Oh no, I won't waste hours on a shitty game!1!11 How will I ever cope???

>>381673198
Probably by shitposting even more.

>>381673151
This. I'm honestly hoping they don't show anything more after Chemical Plant Act 2.

I just want to know what the hell they're doing with Forces.

>>381673305
they won't, nothing will be shown until release confirmed from now

>>381673365
getting autism bucks with the OC character creator

I despise everything about forces, but if you think that shit isn't going to make millions, you're deluding yourself, that OC creator will make sega bank

>>381673365
Trying to please everyone at the same time, but end up pleasing no one because of how half assed it's turning out to be.

>>381673365
It's basically SatAM: The Game aka Generations 2. Sonic & friends plus a bunch of OC critters + your OC try and stop Eggman after he's already taken over a large part of the world.

>>381673365
GIVE THEM EVERYTHING, OC CREATOR, CLASSIC SONIC, MODERN, EVERY--GIVE THEM ALL THE VILLAINS, YOU HEARD ME

FUCK IT, TIMEWARP BULLSHIT, THEY ALL TEAM UP GO, PRINT IT, GREENLIGHT IT

>>381673372
Very smart move by them.
I heard they aren't gonna release a demo because they're cautious of data-miners.

>>381673481

>SatAM: The Game

you wish

>>381673101
We only saw a minute and thirty stage

>>381673372
They confirmed that no NEW stages will be spoiled before it comes out, but I can see them revealing the standalone Sonic 3 stage before launch maybe next month.

>>381673305
This. They should show nothing but the same tired bullshit levels that have been copy pasted for 20 years and just pretty promise there will be cool new shit in their cool new game.

>>381673567
Well I don't "wish", that's just what it feels like to me.

>>381673585
We saw full playthroughs of four stages and a boss, and all of them look like complete shit.

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>>381665729
>Archie comic is fucking dead

Yeah, but Forces looks like the closest thing SEGA could do to a game based on the pre reboot comics.

>>381673545
ALSO THE CRUSH40 SONG WILL BE TOTALLY LIT

>>381666597
I expected 2 Babys 1 Fox and got even more horrified after I checked.

>>381673558
How hard is it to make a completely stripped down demo with nothing to datamine?

regarding forces

Modern Sonic looks okay fun whatever, seems okay

Classic sonic seems whatever ok fun

HOWEVER

OC avatar gameplay looked like some of the worst video game design I've ever had the displeasure of viewing with my fucking eyes, whos fucking idea was that game style

>>381673803
Probably too much work when the game's release deadline is so close.

>>381673738
jeez

YOU'RE KIND OF A BITCH

>>381673621
Looking at the act 2 of Chemical Plant and Green Hill...i'm okay with reusing the templates because that shit looks new aside from aesthetic.

>>381673803
That shit takes away dev time from the full game.

>>381673707
I'm talking about modern sonic. Also Classic sonic was just a boss fight wasnt it I havent seen any stage gameplay for him

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heheheheheehehhe

Forces will still outsell it a billion to one, OC creator has cancerous as it is, is genius. Well played, Sega.If you can't make a good game, just let your fans do it, and you'll just give them a shit game with guranteed cashgrab on it.

>>381673101
>he's mostly 2D again

No half the stage was 3D

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>>381673819
they are unleashing the beast

>>381673819
>Classic sonic seems whatever ok fun
LOL no, it looks like the worst classic Sonic gameplay yet.

>>381673925
I've gotten to the point where I want to see them remix all my favorite old levels with how neat the Act 2's look.

How much do you guys think the vinyl is gonna cost, anons? (in US dollars)

money is tight. i might have to just cancel buying ff12 zodiac if this soundtrack costs too much. but the soundtrack is more important

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>>381665729
>>381666438
>Agreed Sonic Mania will probably be GOTY
>The rest of the series past Sonic Adventure is a deviantart-tier worse-than-fanfic bastardization of the franchise making it blatantly obvious we are all living in the worst possible timeline for the Sonic franchise

>>381670701

I'm not one to criticize Modern Sonic's design but I just can't help to look at this artstyle and just have this big smile plastered on my face.

Classic is the cutest.

>>381674126
How much does a vinyl usually cost

>>381674207
not sure. this will be my first vinyl. i dont even have a vinyl player yet, but i will get one later

>>381674009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1wYD5b4VUw
Here you go

>>381674126
>>381674207
I don't think it'll be too much more than Datadiscs other vinyls, which are like 25 dollars.

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Mania will still do good, it is getting better press than Forces. I think everyone still just wants Mania to be the underdog.

>Archie comic is fucking dead
This is probably the biggest highlight for me, after Mania.

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Daily reminder that if you want a new 2d sonic game with all brand new levels, Mania is the only way.

Mania gets a sequel, Sega give Whitehead and team the go ahead to make the most insane 2d sonic game to ever exist, batshit insane and glorious as ever.

>>381674009
Where have you been?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY3KVTMm264

Also go look up full playthroughs of modern and OC's Park Avenue, it's the same stage for both but slightly remixed and the OC's is way longer. The OC is gonna get the most focus and frankly it's pretty disgusting.

>>381674027

Forces will outsell it because it's physical, meaning kiddos and parents can pick it off the shelf. Why the fuck does Mania not have a physical edition when every other indie game out there has one?

>>381674305
same

>>381674364
Well I pre-ordered it

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>>381674368
why the fuck does this look worse then generations

>>381674409
This is the biggest factor really. Even if Mania saw a 10 buck mark up to 30 dollars with physical that'd do well.

>>381674358
The people that are actually excited for Mania are people in their mid-late 20s/early 30s.

>>381674368
WHEN WILL SEGA LEARN 3D DOESN'T WORK IN A 2D FUCKING SPACE

>>381674364
>2011
>Sonic CD remake
>allowed to include Tails as a playable character
>Taxman wanted to include a new stage and final boss (Desert Dazzle and Final Fever respectively)
>Sega said no

>2013
>Sonic 1 remake
>Sega allowed Taxman and Stealth to include Knuckles as a playable character along with Tails again+both get their own secret sections
>allowed to add a secret 7th Special Stage that lets you unlock Super Sonic

>2013
>Sonic 2 remake
>Taxman and Stealth were allowed to remake Hidden Palace with new level design, gimmicks, enemies and boss and add it to the game
>were not allowed to add Egg Gauntlet though

>now
>Sonic Mania
>brand new game and not a remake like their last few projects
>allowed to create brand new levels, but not for the entire game
>had to include returning levels but were allowed to remix them (tame act 1s and more drastically changed act 2s)

>>381674339
nice! thats really good. its a european company though, so will there be a way to buy it in the US from the site? Do I just buy it like im buying off of an american site? I am pretty confused on how this works. ive never actually bought anything online before.

>>381674602
Wrong, I'm only turning 21 next month and Mania has been my most anticipated game since it was first revealed, frankly I've never been THIS excited for a game all my life.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB9RP2SV8HY

The music for GHact2 and the boss, and Mirage Saloon, all just god tier, honestly. Falk and Tee Lopes, I'll suck your dicks

>>381674602
25 here, so that may be true. But i'm sure some people grew up with the Gamecube and PS2 collections as well, so it could also be late teens-early 20's.

It may be a harder sell to younger than that, but probably not that much of a harder sell.

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>>381665729
>Archie comic is fucking dead
This is the Best of all

>>381674987
Those younger are really the audience for Forces.

>>381674602
I don't care what age you are, I defy any age, 5, 10, 15, 20, 30, 40 anything, to play Mania and say it isn't fun. There is no way on earth anybody can say that even just from the footage, just a pure video game, they won't enjoy it to some degree.

Archie Sonic was basically the last good thing about Sonic, and it is currently a rotten dumpster fire.

Good luck with Sonic "unironic irronically awful" Forces

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>>381669005
A comic by Ken Penders, a guy who used to write and do the art for the Sonic comics. He mostly focused the comics on his many Knuckles OCs, for several years after he was fired he sent out several lawsuits to Archie and Sega for using or referencing his characters/stories.
Then he decided to try to make his own series of comics about Knuckles OCs in space, which is what that abomination is

>>381674775
Shipping from the orient to the United States of America can easily cost as much as the product you are buying because the pacific ocean is filled with dragons.
Shipping from western europe to the United States of America only costs an extra $7 because the atlantic ocean is devoid of dragons.

>>381675354
And those lawsuits are still going to this day, basically killing the comic even though they say it's on "hiatus"

>>381670764

Sonic X was cancelled early in japan, and it had the superior dub. Meanwhile us English speakers had a 4kids dub.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYyqw-pDcSo&list=PL0F788F27124061D9

Not that I particular cared for Sonic X anyways.

>>381675464
So i just put in my billing info and buy off of the site like normal, and then it will just cost a bit more? (also i live on the pacific side, how will this affect)

>>381674602
I'm only 19.

>>381675513

The Penders suit was settled, which is why he has the rights to his enchiladas.

The problem is another writer, Scott Fulop decided to do the same fucking thing which was the straw that seemingly broke SEGA's back.

>>381665729
Mania looks amazing, if a bit too reliant on old stages, but it still looks really fun.
Forces on the other hand... boost game play, monotonous homing attacks, literal autism tier story and atmosphere... I wish we just got another campy, happy ho lucky Adventure/Heroes sort of deal. It all looks so silly and uninteresting. Level design looks really off too, esoecially that classic Green Hill stage. On top of being boring, it also looks like it was made in unity, complete with floaty physics and underwhelming visual effects (e.g. slow, parhetic smoke puffs in place of explosions)

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Can you imagine if the story starts with a cartoon with the same animation used in the trailer? Like a whole little movie and not just a cutscene?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvD8NZN9Zsg

>>381676249
I feel like the mania team was forced by sega to do the old stages. I hope to god that if mania is successful then sega will let them create a mania 2 or something that is entirely new stages, or at least a really small ratio of old stages, like 20% being old and 80% being new.

>>381672656

This is seriously one of my favorite trailers ever.

>>381676249
Sega forced them to include a bunch of old zones. They didn't do it cause they wanted to. They wanted to make an entirely new game.

>>381676404
I hope so.

>>381674126

>buying vinyls
>in 2017
>and complaining about the cost like it isn't the most superfluous purchase you'd make that week/month/year by far

>>381676759
>>381676552
I see, I see. I don't personally care since I've never really played the classics much.

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>>381676552
>I feel like the mania team was forced by sega to do the old stages.
They kinda were.

>>381677042
am poor and can barely afford like 50 dollars a month on extra stuff like vidya and music

>>381676552
>>381677176
That would imply they didn't go to Sega asking to do remakes of the old games 1:1 before being told that remixing old zones and making new ones would be a better idea by Iizuka of all people.

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Wanna see some shit?

>>381677176

>& bundle in the remasters to sweeten the deal

as much as I'd rather have Mania over the initial plan I still want those fucking remasters on my PS4.

>>381677405

>I'm disappointed that Mania ain't a game made by passionate fans

I know this is blatant shitposting but I still got triggered.

I miss king scourge and shard

>>381677042
I just want the digital download code honestly. I've already got that 25th anniversary book and the Skuzzles poster on the way.

>>381677998
>"I miss the recolors!"

Good for you.

>>381676759

I hear SEGA keeps using old zones like Greenhill Zone and Chemical plant zone in their games, and that its ruining the Nostalgia for players. Luckily I never played any 3D Sonic games, so seeing Greenhill and chemical plant zones again for me is freaking awesome.

I mean, have you seen the backgrounds in those levels? How in green-hill you go underground? Beautiful as fuck.

>>381678068
>"I didn't read the books!"
that's okay though, you can't spoil my fond memories

>>381678310
But they were recolors in the books, anon.

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>>381665729
Finally got around to updating this image with the latest Mania info.

>>381665729
>Sonic Forces will probably be decent
I hope, but not really sure. I'm leaning towards mediocre.
>Sonic Mania will probably be GOTY
Hell yes it will be.
>Sonic Boom cartoon is consistently funny
It is, but I don't feel compelled to watch it often.
>Good merch is coming out this year
I haven't really seen much merch outside of the expensive figure they have. That and a company that made great Sonic plushes lost the merch license.
>Archie comic is fucking dead
I'm sad that it as a whole is ending, but it pretty much ended for me when they rebooted.
>Sonic Boom games are trash
The brand for the games is pretty much ruined too, I bet.
>Adventure is relegated to LEGO fanservice
LEGO Chao Garden when?

>>381674205
From the covers he's done for the Archie comics, Tyson even makes Modern sonic look fantastic.

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>>381676404
So like CD?

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>>381679591

>>381679237
Thanks for continuing to update this, I haven't been able to do it lately so it's nice to see someone else do it.

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>>381665729
Come on SONIC!
You can do it!e

>>381678105

The only one that's really been forced into every goddamn game is Green Hill Zone.

Like I seriously don't give a fuck about that level anymore. I know it's nostalgiabait and you gotta do a level like it but honestly if the next nostalgia game had even Emerald Hill, or something actually kinda out-there like Angel Island or
Palmtree Panic, that'd honestly be way more interesting.

>>381679237

>NO WAY! NO WAY! NO WAY? NO WAY!

I love that cheeky fuck

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>mfw I just pre-ordered the collector's edition
>mfw it's for the Switch I'm not even buying until the Fall.

>>381678105
Chemical Plant has only been in Sonic Pocket Adventures & Sonic Generations prior to Mania, people bitching about the over reuse of zones beyond Green Hill heavily over exaggerates it. That's not say I don't wish they picked a zone other than Chemical Plant since their last big game had it & Forces mentions it in their dialogue but this one has shown a decent amount of new mechanics & level design which will make it fun regardless at the end of the day.

I MUST KNOW THE SPECIAL STAGE OF MANIA, SOMEBODY, FIND IT. HACK INTO THE MAINFRAME. DO IT.

>>381680919

I don't wanna know what it is, the only worry I have is that it's more of those shitty halfpipes but I've got faith they wouldn't do that to me.

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>>381680698
I'm sure we all do.

https://twitter.com/CFWhitehead/status/878221309171216385

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCSL7naH-8A

We should be getting a animation like this at the start of Mania, will it be topped?

>>381680919
It's the special stage from Sonic Advance 2 and you don't go to Special Stages ala S3&K you collect those big rings like Sonic Advance 2.

>>381681101
>will it be topped
Doubtful.

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>>381680891
>Green Hill will be remade at least another 20 times

>Marble and Spring Yard will never be referenced again

>>381681391
Good, fuck those shit stages.

>>381681004
>the only worry I have is that it's more of those shitty halfpipes but I've got faith they wouldn't do that to me.

Fuck you. Sonic 2's special stages were the best. S3's psuedo 3D shit was trash.

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>>381681495

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Name this stage.

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>>381667625
Is that the one where Sonic's a prick

>>381681495
Spring Yard is fun though.

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>>381677405
As someone who actually helped with Time Twisted this has to be the dumest thing I read all week. I'm not even reading that fucking comment section.

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Daily reminder that K on the elevator doesn't stand for Knuckles, the 3 includes Knuckles in it. The K stands for Knuckles Chaotix

>>381681636
Fleetway

>>381681785
What did you contribute to Time Twisted if you don't mind me asking?

>>381681503
Wrong, it goes like this:

Blue Spheres>UFOs>Half Pipe>Rotating Maze

If you want your dumb overused half pipe go play literally every other game.

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>>381681614
>People who keep thinking it's Egg Garden when it looks NOTHING LIKE EGG GARDEN

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>>381677042

I wonder who could be behind this post.

>>381681614
Egg Garden.

>>381682091
The Rotating Maze is more appealing than the Half Pipe to me, I at least can control how fast I can go in that one, fuck the auto-scroller.

>>381681785
Mercury?

>>381681830
It's been confirmed already that Mania's only taking stages from 1, 2, 3, & Knuckles and CD.

>>381682161

Its Pikachu!

>>381682229
You can't control your speed in the half pipes either though.

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This is 100% going to be my GOTY.

I am so hyped for this. Cant say I've been playing the originals since they came out, since I'm only 19, but holy crap.

When i was like 4 years old, I had this plug in and play thing. It was basically just a power brick with av plugins and a genesis controller attached. It had sonic 1, and sonic 2. These were my first games ever. Then on the following christmas, my mom got me a gamecube with sonic mania collection. I played the crap out of these games, and i didnt even get any other games on my gamecube for like a year or 2.

The original sonic games are the first games I ever played, and they still live up to this day quality wise. Sonic is what gaming is all about, to me.

It has sucked so much seeing the series go down the path its gone down in recent years, but I think it's finally making a comeback (even in the modern games, which say what you will, i think it looks good).

I am so happy for this game. It means so much to me. We are finally getting a true Sonic 4 (with redone zones too, but those look even better than the originals.) Seeing long time fans of the series who were given so much happiness from these games as kids create something that will give both old fans, and children just as much happiness and put as many smiles on their faces as they had as kids. It is so fucking amazing, I can't speak enough.

This game also looks like it holds up to being more than just "nostalgia pandering garbage". The physics, soundtrack, and aesthetics of the game all look god tier. This game seriously looks like it could not only be a return to the original games, but it might actually surpass them. It is so amazing.

I have the collectors edition pre ordered, bought the digital version just for the ps4 themes and avatars, and am going to pre order the vinyl.

>>381681785
Shit like this is all over deviantart. I saw someone bitching out Mania and saying it's no different than Sonic 4 aside from 'muh physics' and said the only thing wrong with 06 was it was glitchy.

>>381682358
Foxy Rena

>>381682431
I know, you misread that post dude, I wasn't defending the Half-Pipe, I was shitting on it.

>>381682553
Oh oops, you're right.

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Ain't said this for a couple of Mania threads, so I'll say it again here.

Went to E3 this year, specifically to play Mania/Forces, I can't stress this enough, and no gameplay footage released of Mania shows it off properly. The drop dash, the new drop dash technique changes the entire way Sonic will be played, wait until the speedrunners get there hands on this, it is going to be full blown autism madness what they do, it'll redefine 'gotta go fast'

It's such a small, simple thing, but it changes it all so you can always keep your momentum, once you use it once, all you can think is WHY THE FUCK WASN'T THIS IMPLEMENTED BEFORE. The game feels better than any other Sonic game, and the colours, which you can't see on shitty youtube, look so, so SO fucking glorious on a actual tv. It's like playing a god damn comic or some shit, I've no idea what colour filter they're using but it is god tier. There is also a option in the menu to turn on a 'CRT filter' which makes the game go a little blurry like its the old crts for maximum nostalgia, and it is honestly incredible

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>>381680890

>Not also getting the vinyl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jV4WrCW-5Lw

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>>381682553
shitting on a half pipe?
ewww

>>381665729
>Sonic Boom games are trash
that wrong you reatrd the only bad sonic boom game was the wii u one

>>381666438
You could still diebefore it releases, anon.

Just don't leave the house and you'll be fine.

>>381683162
I got to play Mania at PAX, I must agree with your sentiment. At first I really thought i'd miss the instant shield, but drop dash is so fucking good.

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>>381683228
>ghost girl

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>>381665729
>Sonic Boom games are trash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIirKnya27s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku5EtafIfjA

T. guy who only heard that sonic boom was shit and didn't bother looking into at all or just played the wii u version
like holy fucking shit you can't make this up

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T O P

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>>381683162
>Went to E3 this year, specifically to play Mania/Forces
How was Forces?

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>that Chemical Plant boss

>>381684231
Modern was okay, just fine, I didn't enjoy it aesthetically though because Unleashed levels looked fucking beautiful, so Unleashed beats it, but I'm sure there will be other levels which look nice.

Classic Sonic felt weird, as if some kind of prototype

Avatar creator thing just played horrible, felt really forced and unneeded, but it is quite cute to watch the character creator. I would rather play Werehog then the Avatar gameplay, thats how odd it felt

>Amakuchi will never draw Tails

>>381683228
Loving that final version of the song, I've also noticed Mirage Saloon Act.2's music being touched up a bit. I wonder how different the other tracks sounds compared to their final versions.

>>381684808
Sheesh, this is basically what I expected out of Forces after seeing that Green Hill gameplay. I am surprised to hear the Avatar is worse than the werehog though.

>>381681636
Yes

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>>381683734

>>381685193
The reason that is, is because at least with werehog, how bad/odd it was, you had free movement, some cutesy platforming, and the stretchy arms was so fucking bizzare it was different and something new. Avatar gameplay is just this weird mix of all the worst parts of modern, and all the worst parts of classic, and they for some reason throw like 50000 rings at you in avatar mode, no idea why. just feels horrible

>>381685825
oh, and avatar gameplay at bosses is riddled with le epic QTE events, wow watch ur character loop around a bosses legs with a rope so kwl and epic

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>werehog apologists

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>>381671095
*chuckles*

>>381686087
>lightly compare two gaming styles
>apologist

Werehog is terrible, don't get me wrong, but that avatar gameplay isn't better, i'll tell ya that

>>381674636
>2020
>They can give Sonic a penis
>They don't

>>381686695
Do the controls just not feel right?

Is it sloppy, unintersting, and boring?

Is it possible for level design to fix what you think about the avatar?

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>>381685825
>Avatar gameplay is just this weird mix of all the worst parts of modern, and all the worst parts of classic

Interestingly enough, Buddy's gameplay is eerily similar to Boom Sonic's. (Uses gadgets, has a grappling hook.)

Combine that with how tall the player character is compared to both Sonics and promotional artwork that included Boom Sonic alongside the other two, and I strongly suspect that Buddy was originally going to be Boom Sonic. I think that when Sega/Sonic Team caught wind of how badly Rise of Lyric was received critically they hastily threw together an OC creator instead. It would also explain why they held off for so long revealing what the third gameplay style would be.

I'm sure it's probably just pure coincidence.

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What about her?

>>381682508
Every time i decide to delve into Deviantart, a part of my soul and hopes of humanity dies with it.

>>381688681
She's a cat.

>>381688681
What ABOUT her?

>>381689026
Sometimes i'm just morbidly curious.

>>381682091

Blue Spheres are the best but I prefer the UFOs and think they're more fun on repeated playthroughs.

Maze is alright. Better than half pipes at least.

>>381684319
Can you give me a link? I can't find any videos of the Chemical Plant boss.

>>381690095
there isn't any visuals on the boss, but it's been said that the boss might have some Puyo Puyo elements

>>381690908
I've heard it's straight up Mean Bean Machine.

>>381665729
I couldn't care less about this franchise.
2d sonic sucks dick

>>381674913
https://youtu.be/zSdCTS4QTNQ?t=2m34s

It honestly may be my favourite Sonic boss theme.

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>>381688681
Extremely unlikely to appear given her location and lack of connection to the classic series.
However I'd love to see a classic version of herself appear as playable through DLC or as an unlock as unreasonable to expect as that is.
She was very satisfying to play in Rush and I think they could translate that out of boost gameplay fairly well if they were allowed to try.

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>sonic forces will probably be decent
>sonic boom cartoon is consistently funny

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>>381691141
>4:07

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>Sonic Forces will probably be decent

>>381672626
Mania's first few levels didn't necessitate withholding judgment. The reveal trailer alone abated just about any and all possible concerns regarding the quality, care, and attention to detail.

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>yfw Mania has a sound test with Sonic's band.

>>381666597
>Insane

>>381673365
I'm sure they'd love to figure out that out themselves.

>>381665729
>Sonic Mania will probably be GOTY

Man I can't wait for that game to come out and people realize sonic was literally never that good. Even the original three. Everyone remembers Emerald and Green Hill and GOES FAST and forgets how flawed everything else was

>>381683228
fuck i want that harem too

Alright folks
1-10
How fanfiction.com-tier cringe is the story to forces going to be?

We already have:
>recycled plot elements and assets """for nostalgia"""
>literal donut steeles
>edgy evil hedgehog overlord character
>apocalyptic setting

>>381691538
A part of me wants to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they were stalling so the whole boss theme would play.

>>381691940
Classic Sonic is literally git gud go fast. It isn't about speed being handed to you.

>>381692047
Around a 4-5.

>>381692047
probably 6.

Going full fanfic would necessitate a higher rating.

>>381692047

3

Park Avenue and Infinite will be as edgy as it gets. Everything else will be your typical BALDY MCNOSEHAIR tripe.

>>381692054

Because memorizing level layouts is such skill

>>381691940
>nobody replays the classic games every year
t. retard (you)

>>381692047
It will be a guaranteed 10 when the OC becomes the most important character in the game.

>>381682091
UFOs would be alright if stepping on water didn't lower your remaining time, fuck that

>>381692496
memorizing all your mom's holes is true skill.

>>381692613
You're supposed to avoid the water, dingdong.

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>>381692548
>mfw the OC gets a super form

>>381692705
>10 seconds remaining, last UFO is near the border of the arena
>jump at him at breakneck speeds
>he dodges and i fall on the water, lose
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

>>381693009
__________git gud__________

>>381692542

There's lots of people with shit taste anon. Nobody is denying that

>>381693581
Yeah, like this guy:>>381691940

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>>381691940
But replayed the original 3 recently, they're as good as I remembered.

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>>381691940

>>381692496
>ugh I have to LEARN the game?
you must not like video games

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>>381693787

>>381693861
>muh anedoctal evidence
fuck off

>>381693989
I like this one.

>>381694037
>muh conjecture
lol

>>381694037
>hurr nobody remembers that the classics are shit
>but I replayed them recently and they're still great
>reeeeeeeee anecdotal evidence
Keep outing yourself as a retard, m8.

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>>381691762

I wouldn't put it past them. I mean for fuck's sake the trailer references pic related of all things.

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>1 and 2 HD still mobile exclusive
>still no S3&K HD

>>381693989
Hello new desktop

>>381694680
micheal jacksons estate

>>381694037
Isn't saying they were never good also anecdotal evidence as well?

>>381694680

I feel like 1 and 2 coming to steam/consoles is inevitable considering they were apparently supposed to be bundled with this game originally. maybe they still are

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Who will you main?

>>381694967
Sonic, that Drop Dash looks fun as fuck to screw with, plus the elemental shield effects were great in S3&K.

>>381693958

My issue is that Sonic isn't conducive to its own mechanics. Mario is the better speed game.

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>>381694967
Sonic because Drop Dash and shield abilities.

>>381694967
Sonic, but i'm sure as shit going to play trough it as Knuckles and Tails at least a few times. I'm glad that they're back playable.

>>381694283
>>381694128
>>381694825

Not the same guy. I don't care that people say they still enjoy them. Nostalgia gets in the way of things all the time. I just don't think Mania is going to be as amazing as people are expecting. Sonic was always second fiddle. Donkey Kong and Mario were leagues ahead.

>>381695097
>le Sonic is about speed and nothing more
Never fails to get me laughin'.

>>381695097
>Sonic isn't conducive to its own mechanics
It absolutely fucking is. You have to roll, pay attention to level geometry and sloping, time jumps, chain bounces, etc.

>>381665729
Why does Sonic Boom Sonic have broken limbs?

>>381695464
But that sounds way too challenging, I can't handle that.

>>381695298
I have more nostalgia for Sonic Adventure DX, Sonic Adventure 2 Battle, and Sonic Heroes than I do for Sonic CD or Sonic 3K.

Everything in the former category holds up less the more I play and think about their design. Everything in the latter category only continues to come across as more well designed the longer I play and think about them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLJSRJfZkRk

>>381695329
>literally every game advertised on SPEED

There are other elements but let's not pretend that that's not Sonics entire gimmick.

>>381695329
That's how they sold it in america, remember blast processing? it's no wonder an entire generation was lead on to believe classic sonic was just hold right to win.

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>>381695298
>Sonic was always second fiddle. Donkey Kong and Mario were leagues ahead.
Spoken like a true pleb.

>>381690995
Ah yes, the one sequel we've all been waiting for.

>>381695682
Sonic's advertisement has always been good at selling the product, but bad at explaining the product. Speed is a reward.

>>381695632
Then stop playing video games. This is not the medium for you.

>>381695635
I only played through Heroes once, it was okay if only because the music was awesome and the levels looked pretty cool. I remember being confused because of the slippery as fuck controls. You gotta wonder why Heroes was like that when Sonic/Shadow controlled pretty solidly in SA2.

Also Heroes was one of the first games with obnoxious incessant dialogue during gameplay that you can't switch off, which was heavily criticized at the time, but is now in every fucking game and no game journo complains about it.

>>381695656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0bN9P0SndE
Here's another in depth review of Sonic that I enjoyed.

>>381681101
nah but it'll still be great and fun

>>381695682
Don't be needlessly reductive. Yes, they're about speed, but they're not, nor have they ever been, about blind and freely-given speed. That shit comes with mastery over the mechanics and levels.

http://info.sonicretro.org/Game_Development:Sonic_the_Hedgehog_(16-bit)
>I like fast things and I thought that it would be nice to create a game where the more skilled you become, the faster you can complete a stage. Games back then had no backup or saving system, which meant that you had to play right form the beginning every time...As a result, the very first stage would be played time and time again, making the player very skilled at it. So we thought it would be nice if this would enable the player to complete those stages faster and that's the basis of Sonic's speed. We also thought this feature would help differentiate Sonic from Mario.

>>381696218
>not based ShayMay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AK3n-srj5E&t=12s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPS4PsVS5yc&t=9s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVKFRxgwSWE

>>381677405
It goes to be said, Sonic's fanbase is never happy, nor is the normal fanbase happy, everybody has radically different ideas about what Sonic should be and fuck you if you think otherwise, it's like gaming politics and religion, death to the nonbelievers!

>>381696434
Shaymay is certainly the best analysis, but it's hard to convince someone to watch 4 hours worth of a guy picking apart Sonic if they don't already care.

>>381696434
Shay fucking knows his shit.

No way any of these "Sonic was never good" autists are going to spend that much time watching something they know will invalidate their shitposting, though.

>>381696770
to be fair, you only need to watch like the first 20 minutes of the first video to get a solid dissection of the classic gameplay.

I know
>20 fucking minutes
but it's not 4 hours at least?

>my brother tells me he pre ordered the collector's edition for my birthday
>turns out it's for his PS4 and not my switch

The sneaky butt hole.

>>381696434
these videos are GOAT and i'm glad he's getting his game with Utopia

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>>381696218
>Tails hitbox is smaller
Well, I guess this is true, you learn new things everyday.

>>381697135
and GHP. The guy who made it was directly inspired by Shay's analysis.

>>381696218
>>381696434
>>381695656
any good S3&K analysis videos? I love hearing about how good it is

>>381697135
I love Utopia, but i'm dubious to it becoming a full on complete fan game. Still, someone needs to make Iizuka and Sonic Team take a hard look at Utopia. It's one hell of a proof on concept.

>>381697193
eh

The comic isn't officially dead yet, SEGA and Archie are still talking it out. I really doubt SEGA would risk chopping the comic down ASAP at the risk of pissing off fans. At the very least we should get some kind of conclusion. Also, I'm more excited for Forces since I enjoy the 3D games more

>>381697246
If we get even one level it'll be enough for me

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>>381697246
The devs are a dedicated bunch, if not for a full game I'm certain we'll at least have demo of a level that they always intended to design instead of a sandbox test area that we have now. Even then, Lange said on here a few times that he already has a team that's working on an original game that's basically classic Sonic in 3D.

>>381697232
Shay's first video fellates it a fair amount.

>>381697574
I'll just watch everything he has

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>>381697452
>Forces
>3D

>>381697562
I'm torn between how absolutely right about everything Lange is, and how much of a gigantic pretentious cunt he is.

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>>381696158
The controls aren't bad if you just use the power characters and only switch when it's necessary. Part of me feels like it was intentional (he's the speed character, so he has to be significantly faster and looser). The same slippery controls are in Shadow but that's because it's using the Heroes engine to cut time (after all, the only thing faster than Sonic is SEGA's deadlines)

>>381697674
>and how much of a gigantic pretentious cunt he is.
He's certainly that.

>>381669789
>the writer who wrote 'baldy mcnosehair' and 'like a battery?'
>funny
boco this is why everyone hates you

>>381697674
>and how much of a gigantic pretentious cunt he is
how is he

>>381697610
Everything he has is worth the watch, but the 3K fellating is just in the first part of the first video.

>>381697674
well you can't really fault someone when they know their shit and back it up with content, he is absolutely right about sonic team missing the point completely and he's exemplified it and presented a counterpoint

>>381697657
The modern segments are in 3D boyo.

>>381697972
Absolutely. I just don't like the fact that the way he presents his views prevents a lot of the Adventurecucks and Boostbabbies from seeing his point.

>>381697996
And even then they still have 2D sections.

>>381697657
i guess temple run counts as a 3d game

>>381673459
it would have if they'd done it years ago
most kids these days aren't autistic over sonic

>>381695690
They sold the Genesis with "Blast Processing", not Sonic, silly.