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How come Sony is the only console manufacturer to never make a good controller?
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DS4 isn't that bad
It actually feels solid for once
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>>381598547
>dude sony controllers SUCK haha

this meme needs to die

literally just standard decent quality controllers

dualshock 1-4 are all fine
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>>381598860
Wrong

>light with flimsy feeling plastic
>useless touchpad taking up too much space
>light you can't turn off that gives the controller a 2hr charge span
>triggers have no resistance and are registered the second you move them slightly
>no rear plastic casing to prevent accidentally hitting them

2 = 1 (analog) > 3 > 4
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If it wasn't good then why would sony already have the fourth generation of them? Don't you think that people would actually complain and they'd change the layout completely?
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>>381598547
Because they continually steal their ideas from Nintendo and always half-ass them.
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>>381599660
>Implying that SONY can innovate.
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>>381599174
I didn't like the PS3 one because the triggers wore out into hair triggers with no backing real fast and they were too light without the rumble functionality, otherwise yes. As far as console controllers go they're decent, PS2 era being best cus they still had pressure sensitive buttons.
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>>381599765
>implying you answered my question
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>>381599174
>are all fine
Being the worst every gen isn't fine
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>>381598547
I'm I the only one who liked the PS controller before they added the dual shock?
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>>381599485
>useless touchpad
You can give it use in Steam (touch menus and shit), also Splatoon style gyro aim as well

>triggers are registered the second you move them slightly
That's up to each game's own implementation
Steam again lets you set this deadzone if you want
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>>381598547
>How come Sony is the only console manufacturer to make a good controller?
ftfy :^)
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>>381599993
>You can give it use in Steam (touch menus and shit)
Holy shit really?
Does this work in any game or is it just certain games?
Thats fucking cool
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>>381599868
wii nunchucks, wii pro, wii u tablet, wii u pro and joycons would like a word with you.
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>>381599485
>2 = 1 (analog) > 3

Is that just because of the 'triggers'? Because honestly otherwise it's the same shit. I never found the triggers much of an issue since they're intended for secondary usage. For dualshock 1-3 the bumpers are the main shoulder buttons, with triggers being secondary. Developers like rockstar just misunderstood and had default mapping to R2/L2 for shooting, when really R1/L1 were meant for shooting.

Also for driving games, the triggers were actually pretty good. Sort of like pedals. But obviously there was no reason why they couldn't be ergonomic for shooting either.
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>>381600017
this. Everything else is either mediocre or siht
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>>381600127
>Developers like rockstar just misunderstood and had default mapping to R2/L2 for shooting, when really R1/L1 were meant for shooting.
nearly every game uses the triggers for shooting this gen
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>>381598547
DS4 would have been great if it had the Vita's d-pad
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>>381599868
Okay I'll bite.

The Dualshock 2 was better than the Gamecube controller

The Dualshock 2 was also better than the Xbox controller (both duke and revision).

There you go.
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>>381600281
This is very correct
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>>381600107
All literally shit and piss all over ds4
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>>381600259
Well that's why I was talking about last gen...
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>>381600432
no
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>>381600386
You can't actually believe this.
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>>381600586
Yup
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>>381598547
yeah why cant they make a good controller like nintendo!?
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>>381598547
but all of these suck...

?
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>>381600707
Nintengaf need to leave, and take their shitty controllers and 5 franchises with them.
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Sony is the only company that makes a pad that doesn't fit your hands. I don't want to hold it with my finger tips and bend both thumbs down.
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DS > N64
XBOX S > DS2 > XBOX DUKE = GCN
360 > DS3 > PRO >>> WIICHUCKS
XBOX ELITE > DS4 > TABLET/PRO >> JOYCONS
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>>381600770
>implying it is somehow worse than the ps1 pad with no analog and only 6 buttons
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>>381601043
the DS1 has analog, faggot
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>>381600770
I see ten buttons and a joy stick. Didn't sony's first pad have 6 buttons and no joystick?
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>>381601124
I said sony's first pad you daft fucking moron.
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>>381600617
I don't even know whether to assume you're routing for the Gamecube or Duke controller. The duke is just a big controller people like to meme but it's actually shit. The Dualshock 2 definitely wasn't the worst of the 6th gen, and was probably the best.
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>>381598547
Nigger are you out of your mind? Sony and Xbox has had some fuck ups, but Nintendo has produced some of the most retardadly backwards controller designs ever.
>NES and SNES are fine
>64 is a 3-pronged boomerang with no correct way to hold it.
>Gamecube is a button and analog stick soup that looks more like a Kamen Rider mask than a controller.
>Wii is a tardo TV remote with a fetus and umbilical chord sticking in the bottom of it.
>WiiU is a great big shit quality tablet with controller parts taped to the sides.
>Switch is a gimicky cluster fuck where you have to pay 60 DOLLARS just to get a decent controller.
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>>381601164
Sony's pad, like EVERY single joypad for the past 25 years, took it's design directly from Nintendo'd SFC/SNES pad.
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>>381601290
Who cares, in the same gen sony had a far superior pad.

nintenbabby cancer
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>>381601373
DELET THIS
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>>381601373
You're a fucking idiot.

Nintendo have always taken risks.

Sony and Microsoft have ripped off Nintendo's design for decades because they wouldn't have the first fucking clue how to innovate a controller without Nintendo to copy.
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>>381601489
>I'm wrong so who cares now, right?
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>>381599485
this
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>>381601373
...and all of them are still better than Sony, every, single, gen
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>>381601619
They took the base concept, improved it and continue to keep what works instead of making their PRIMARY controllers gimmicky shit, with the option of a $60 normal controller
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>>381601043
but the ps1 controller had analog and said analog wasnt a piece of shit with sharp grooves on top unlike the shitty n64 controller
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>>381598547
DS4 is actually pretty okay. I still prefer the Xdort controller but DS4 really isn't bad.
DS1-3 were objectively bad though.
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>>381600017
>>381600180
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>>381601373
It's a big thing to bash sony controllers because they're "a bit too small" and really not much else. Besides that they're literally fine, and you must be a retard if you find them unusable. On the same token grown men will praise and easily use the NES controller.
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>>381601619
Sticking your cock in the garbage disposal is also "taking a risk", it doesn't mean it's a good idea.
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>>381601779
Keep telling yourself that
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Ps1-worse than 64 in every way
Ps2-forcing two joysticks in terrible positions on a bad controller
Ps3-see Ps2
Ps4-see Ps2 but bigger
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>>381601805
Yeah, like how they desperately added touch functionality to the PS4 controller at the 11th hour, just out sheer panic incase Nintendo were onto another massive hit with the Wii U?

Sony have always been shameless.
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>>381598547
>design such a good controller you don't need to change it for 3 generations
>literally everyone tries to copy it

>/v/ pretends it's bad
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>>381601779
>.and all of them are still better than Sony, every, single, gen
>tfw sonygglers will never be able to physically jerk off their console

WE DID IT NINTENBROS
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>>381601862
Why do people forget facts? Ps1 first pad had six buttons and no joystick. Faggot
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>>381602124
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>>381598547
The original PSX controller is fucking great - far better than the SNES pad it copied - but bolting on the analogues is what fucked it
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>>381602171
improved
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>>381602316
>muh first pad
It doesn't matter faggot.
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>>381602232
Bait
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>>381602583
truth
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First the monster hunter threads

now they make threads making fun of OUR controllers!!

WE CAN'T ALLOW THIS TO CONTINUE NINTENROS!
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>>381599981
>tfw still loving my Sixaxis
It's so light and comfy.
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>>381602569
>Being so mad you post wrong shit and then tell everyone how little you care
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Wait, the older controllers had pressure sensitive face buttons?
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>>381602583
name a single controller design which didn't try to copy the dualshock and also didn't fail
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>>381602841
WII PRO
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Someone post the boomerang
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>>381601037
I agree with this but i would swap DS2 and GCN. The xbox S was clearly the best of that generation.
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>>381602841
Mote and Chuck
64
Gc
All the rest
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>>381599868
>Being the worst every gen isn't fine
This dumb faggot thinks the PS1 dual shock was worse than the N64 triclops controller, the Saturn 1, or the fucking JAGUAR CONTROLLER.
THE JAGUAR CONTROLLER WAS BETTER TO HIM.

He thinks the PS2 controller was worse than the DREAMCAST controller with its loose, shitty (single) analog, and CORD FROM THE BOTTOM. Worse than the fucking Xbox DUKE.
Worse than the Gamecube Fisher Price controller.

He thinks the DS3 was worse than the WIIMOTE. THE FUCKING WAGGLE STICK AND NUNCHUCK.

HE THINKS THE DS4 WAS WORSE THAN THE WII U TABLET OR SWITCH *CONNECTION LOST*

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>381602841
When will he realise Sony has copied nintendo pads at every turn?
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Daily reminder that the best (and only decent) Nintendo controller stole the body of the xbox s and 360, and the trigger layout and analog placement of the dual shock.
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>>381598547
Sony made the best controllers until the 360 made theirs which was a bit better. But they followed with the DS4 which is about the same level of comfort, and I've always liked the shapes vs letters for button names
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>>381603261
>hi everyone! What is a console that isn't sony! Are there any! Haha!
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>>381603035
>replaced within a generation
>replaced within a generation
>dualshock copy
>???
>>381602925
try again bby
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>>381603317
>pro copied the analog placement of the dual shock
>well....they're in completely different locations but you know what I mean
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>>381598547
I love their controllers, though. I'm glad they haven't changed the shape but I could do without the big stupid touchpad.
The xbox360 controller is the most uncomfortable piece of shit I've ever had the displeasure of using for two years. I'm glad I sold my xbox, I'd even take some trashy madcatz controller over it.
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>>381602841
Are you fucking serious? SONY stole the entire design from Nintendo.

And when they saw an analogue stick on the N64 pad, they stole that too.

>b-but the sony pad has TWO sticks!

Holy shit, just fuck off.
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>>381603554
meant to say xbox
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>>381603317
And the controllers you mentioned were stolen from the dreamcast.
Everybody steals from everybody in this industry, haven't you figured that out yet?
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>>381603346
So do you pronounce the X as "ex" or "cross"?
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>>381603596
I agree, but I really like the xbone controller. Much more comfy.
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>>381603623
Everybody steals from everybody in every industry, or in life in general
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>>381603623
Tell that to the assblasted nintensperg shitting up the thread
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>>381603623
Everybody, EVERYBODY stole from Nintendo.
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>>381603721
I'll have to try it sometime, but I've been skeptical about /v/'s taste in anything, especially since I've seen a ton of people defend the 360 controller like it was made in heaven, acting like the d-pad is the only bad thing about it.
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What's the closest you can get to a 6 button Saturn controller these days without resorting to knockoffs?
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>>381603709
>not pronouncing it as "fork"
Ladies and gentlemen, ponys
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>>381603623
Dude, the dreamcast pad rips off the Nintendo SFC/SNES pad.
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>>381603904
Would have single handedly killed every Sony pad but the ds4
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>>381603969
>>381603747
sad faggot
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>>381603969
That's my whole point though.
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>>381598547
Jesup Christ sony, if you're going to be a casual console at least have the best pad every gen
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>>381603904
It still looks fucking stupid. The DS3 is perfection. Just let it rest in your fingers and you won't have an issue. The sticks being "too close together" is only a problem for people who death grip their controller like a gorilla and move the sticks with the middle of their thumbs.
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They did and it's called the move.
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>>381604096
Because he's right? Nice argument sonybro.
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>>381603904
>let's make a controller that is actually good
>just kidding!
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>>381604165
>rest in your fingers
Trying this hard
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>>381604165
>guys guys just hold it in this one specific way and it might actually be usable!
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>>381602392
Why hasn't forty learned that nobody likes him?
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>>381604265
Holy fuck it's like those commercials trying to sell you shit for things you should be able to do flawlessly on your own.
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>>381599485
You can turn the light off
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>>381604165
>One brand out of all brands makes you contort your hands to properly hold a controller
>it's everyone else who's wrong!!!
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>>381604165
>he uses the tips of his thumbs
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>>381604452
only on pc
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>>381598547

>never

Thats a strange way of spelling "only"
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>>381604452
No you can't
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>>381604360
>>381604310
All you have to do is not squeeze your controller. Just relax and it's perfect.
Fucking relax, man.
Seriously, stop squeezing.
The tips of your thumbs is all you need to have perfect accuracy and full movement over those sticks.
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dualshock2/3 are my favorite controllers
I can deal just fine with other systems and generally use a 360 controller because of compatibility though. I grew up with no controllers and using a keyboard for all my emulated games so getting any was a godsend.
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>>381604562
>How come Sony is the only console manufacturer to only make a good controller?
Ladies and gentlemen, ponys
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>>381603709
Before becoming a weeb, X. Now I say クロス
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>>381604683
I can't literally see the glue on his hands
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ps3 and wiiu pro controllers are the best controllers.
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>>381602316
still better than n64. sorry to hurt your fee fees but it's one of the worst controllers of all time, hence gamecuve and it's totally not dualshock 2 controller
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>>381604265
My friend had one of these to play street fighter alpha 2/3 and even bought a converter to use it when 4 came out
I fucking hated it and was glad they continued the DS line because its my favorite controller even though the ps2 was the last console worth buying
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>>381604929
You don't need to use glue if you don't have greasy butter fingers. Dualshock controllers are made for people who don't need to crush something while gaming.
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>>381604836
Shut up!! We have cowadooty and feefa!
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>>381603608
>t-they stole nintys design!
only they made it better..
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>>381604965
>words in random locations
>pee pee poo poo
Ladies and gentlemen, ponys >>381604965
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>>381599663
>he says when Sony had always continually outsold Nintendo
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>>381605109
Why does that gun have a round thing under the barrel?
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>>381599765
>dual analog sticks
>4 shoulder buttons
>invented compact disc

these are the standard across all systems, even Nintendo's.
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>>381605079
The entire layout of a 'joypad' is Nintendo's design. It belongs to them. Every innovation in a modern joypad only exists because Nintendo made it.
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>>381605109
This is pretty much exactly what I think of when I think of Sony fanboys. All because of /v/
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>>381605296
Some genius white person modded his dualshock4 to be a gun for that starving african american.
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>>381605115
As did every controller after that
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>>381599485
>flimsy feeling plastic

have you even touched a dualshock 4?
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>>381605161
>I'm a retard who can't look at things ibjectively because I'm loyal to a multibilliondollar corporation that doesn't care about me
we know anon
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>>381605109
>Black man
>KH poster
This is my favorite stereotype
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Describe your dream controller!

>Saturn styled D-pad with proper microswitches
>Six (6) face buttons, make 'em big and meaty like the Switch Pro Controller
>-Digital- shoulder buttons, fuck off with that analog shit buy a proper racing wheel for your car games you niggers
>Instead of a second set of shoulder buttons on top behind the first, place them on the grips where the tips of you middle fingers naturally rest when holding the controller. Nier Automata made me realize how awful the standard configuration for four shoulder buttons is
>Same sticks that are on the Xbone Elite, by far the best I've felt on a controller
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>>381601373
have you even fucking held a 64 or Gamecube controller?
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>>381605317
Everything was stolen from Nintendo. There's nothing in a modern joypad which isn't stolen from Nintendo.
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>>381598547
Why do people want their entire hand touching the controller at all times?
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>>381605409
I have one right next to me, faggot
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>>381605478
dDs3 with a battery power of the wiiu pro and better start/select buttons.
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>>381605034
Jesus Christ what is that thing?
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>>381598547
Sony DS series are probably the best controllers since the Sega six button style gamepads
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>>381605572
Angry gamers who need to clench.
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>tfw Nintendo's controllers are GOAT
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>>381605639
This, plus the rumble feature is miles above xbox. Only niggers who are nostalgic for Halo like Xbox controllers
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>>381605728
That dpad though
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>>381605751

Fuck off, the Xbone controllers ironically have some of the best D-pads on a modern controller. They were my go to for emulation until the Switch Pro Controller came out
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>>381605639
True. My only complaint is how the triggers are on the ds4 because when I set my controller down you can guarantee they'll go off no matter how gentle you are.
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>>381600770
That's actually a awesome controller with great ergonomics and the first usable analog stick.
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>>381605728
The GameCube pad will always be one of my favourite pads.
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>>381605632
retarded considering he had almost all of the 15th anniversary SF controllers that were amazing
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>>381598547
I've always preferred Sony's controllers to Microsoft/Sega's. Not that I dislike the latter any either. I just like that with my largeish hands Sony controllers just kind of fit into my fingers in a bit of a cradle.

And honestly I am near to calling the 360 controller just about perfect even as I say I prefer the DS. Honestly I prefer the 360's to the One. With the One I find the shoulder button placement got worse.
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>>381601373
This controller is great. wtf

It is no good for 2D stuff, but it is great for 3D, great ergonomics.

wtf
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>>381605356
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>>381601373
t. sonygaf
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>>381605728

The gamecube controller is legitimately one of the worst designed controllers out there and I don't understand all the love it gets at all

>One of the worst dpads known to man
>c-stick is pointlessly, awkwardly small
>dace button arrangement is straight up inferior to the diamond lay out
>shoulder buttons with stupid long travel times due to analog functionality that all of like two games used anyway
>Only one set of shoulder buttons
>That fucking Z-button
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>>381601373
Nintendo's controllers innovate and produce good ones and bad ones.
>Original NES was good for its time but hasn't held up, squared-off corners
>SNES was the pinnacle, Sony took the design and ran with it
>N64 was huge and impractical, took off too many buttons and the joystick was crap (no X, Y, or Select)
>GameCube still lacked a left Z button equivalent, the trigger buttons were a bit weird, and the whole thing was a bit small but was surprisingly functional
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>>381598547
Nigger please. I still use PS2 controllers for PC to this day and learned how to solder solely to replace the analogs.
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>>381606210
t. literal zebra fucker I can't believe how easy it is to spot people who suck ZEBRA DICKS ALL DAY!!
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>>381606214
It 'feels' good.
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>>381598547
Ì feel like sony is always close to perfection but just off.

DS4 is the most comfy but has a god awful battery life. Also you should be able to turn off the light, I don't like a god damn lighthouse on my controller.
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>>381606214
Great for 3D stuff.

>>c-stick is pointlessly, awkwardly small

Ok, I stopped reading here.
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>>381606214
It's ergonomic as fuck. Something Sony needs to learn.
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>>381605284
For one, that's two completely different things.
Two, the Wii.
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>>381603430
nice retort, anon! you really showed that guy and his stupid facts and true statements!
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>>381605284
Switch is already on track to outsell the PS4.
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>>381606607
Why is it that /v/ thinks popularity counts for quality only when it serves their tastes?
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>>381598547

I wouldn't go as far as say they're the best. They have a lot of flaws and usually baby hands sonynerds are the ones who blindly defend them without pointing out any flaws. For example, I love the ds4 but to be honest, the xbox one controller is better, especially for PC. And let's not even talk about how the Ds3 didn't even have triggers. But yes, they are very good quality and in my top choice if I had to get them.
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because they are japanese
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>>381606486
The Wii was a fluke and you know it. Every other generation Nintendo was outsold badly.
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DS4 is legitimately better than the schlock Xbox has, and it makes them angry!

LOL
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>>381605478
DS4 ergonomics with:
>six face buttons, marked/aligned as Saturn (alternatively like Duke)
>WiiU/GC sticks/gates (retaining the R3/L3 click)
>light bump/click at the start or end of trigger travel, lighter than GC
>better D-pad (Saturn, SNES, and Saitek P990 of all things come to mind)
>light configuration like WiiU pro
>slightly raised start/select buttons
>USB-C

I usually hate Sony controllers, but the DS4 actually feels quite nice. If the sticks and Dpad were a little better, it'd be my unquestionable go-to for console games. It does a good enough job for all games, whereas before they were too uncomfortable for twin-stick ventures. The Xbox controllers are great for FPS and the like, but are terrible for anything like a metroidvania or precision platformer due to a poor Dpad.
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>>381605728
either this is memed way too hard, or overrated as hell.

NOTHING special about that thing.
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>>381606607
Did you get one in your HappyMeal® too anon?!
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>>381605034
Holy shit I remember this. This was the controller my friend always pushed onto me when we would do any multiplayer. Fuck.
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>>381606214
Motherfucker you may have some good points, but the face buttons are fucking god tier. You can push the A button and roll to any other fucking button a split second later, because they're all clustered together. AND THEY'RE NOT ALL THE SAME FUCKING SHAPE SO YOU KNOW FOR CERTAIN WHICH BUTTON IS WHICH, FIVE MINUTES AFTER FIRING UP THE GODDAMN CONSOLE. SUCK MY DICK YOU PRETENTIOUS FAGGOT.
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>>381606873
Kek. Remind me again how the PSP v DS went? Remind me again how the Vita v 3DS went?
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>>381606873
again, what the fuck are you even arguing? Read the first post you replied to anon. What the fuck is wrong with you.
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>read the replies from sony fans in this thread
>can't help but picture them like this

I can't' be the only one
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>>381605284
What the fuck does that have to do with anything? [spoilers]And untrue [/spoiler]

Ponys everyone.
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>>381598547
I bet the boomberrang would have been amazing

then stupid sonybros bitched, because they hate change
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>>381607554
You're not. Sony fans are embarrassing.
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>>381598547
I respectfully disagree, I quite like the DualShock 4. Not that I have anything against the Xbox controllers, though. Those are good too.
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Cowadooty and feefa! Sony always wins baby!
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>>381600770
still better than the dualshock
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>>381607186
>handhelds
>important at all
Sony still won most the console wars which matter the most.
>>381607284
>>381607584
Innovation doesn't mean shit when you're contantly being beaten by the competition.
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>>381604484

>Contort your hands
>DS1-4 design is the most ergononically correct holding position

Lol you fags are hilarious.
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>>381607705
Only a skinwalker has fingers long enough to hold that properly
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>>381607960
>Innovation doesn't mean shit
Sonybros everyone. Somebody screencap this.
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>>381608191
looks goo-d to me
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Honestly, out of all controllers I've held in my hand and played with, the elite controller is the best. Xbox One is the best modern controller and elite is the best of the best. It just has that simple weightiness that's missing from most plastic controllers and it has that needed customisability. It's only problem is really that it costs way too much.
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>>381607554
Yeah I imagine people who hold different opinions than me to be embarrassing and emotionally unstable too, it helps me feel collected and right about everything.
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>>381608668
See >>381608349
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>>381608349

But, it doesn't.

>Nintendo tried to innovate with the Virtual Boy
Bombed hard
>Nintendo tried to innovate with the Nintendo 64
Outsold by Playstation 1 hard
>Nintendo tried to Innovate with the Gamecube
Massively bombed compared to Xbox and PS2
>Nintendo tried to innovate with the Wii and Motion controls
MASSIVELY failed

Just because you're "innovating" something, doesn't mean it's going to be good or successful.
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>>381605317
Clickable sticks too which Nintendo only recently added with their Wii U controllers. Even though they've been a standard feature since 2001.
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>>381608781
>Wii
>failed
You tried.
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>>381608781
Nintendo didn't try to innovate with GC.

Stop shitposting.

I won't even start on Nintendo innovations that everyone is using, like Rumble, analog sticks that WORKS, 3D worlds that are great, shoulder buttons, d-pad and so on.
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>never enjoyed DS series that much
>never enjoyed the 4 triggers or shoulder buttons bullshit
>those shitty d-pads
>games that demand qte through those shitty dpads
>DS3 is just shit, worst quality compared to DS2 that was pretty sturdy

DS2 was fine, despite the 4 shoulder/triggers that I hate. 2 were enough, 4 is bullshit and awkward to play in some games, my hands are not crabs
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>>381599821
PS3 still being pressure sensitive, i would take it over PS2 because i prefer mediocre triggers to having flat buttons where triggers would go. also there's piss-all that needs pressure sensitive buttons besides PS2 games.
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>>381608781
topkek
Why does Nintendo even try? All they can do is fail.
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>>381608781
You're an utter fucking child. Without innovation everything stagnates. You're going to hate on a company for taking RISKS? For trying something different? For trying to push the envelope of what video games can be?

Thank fuck companies like Nintendo exist because the industry would be dead without them. It's embarrassing how clueless you are.

Also, explain to me how the Wii 'failed'. The delusion of sonybro kiddies is beyond measure
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>>381600432
you have awful taste. do you even have hands, or are you some amputee that just sees what controllers look like and picks which ones to shitpost about?
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>>381609031
Which are all great for the industry but not for Nintendo who's competitors end up using their creations better against them.

Honestly, it's best if they were to go out of business and pour their talent to everyone from other consoles to PCs.
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>>381600386
please go into detail why you think this, because i can't think of any features that stand out as better than its competition.
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>>381605409
It feels like a Chinese knock off.
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>>381603261
i've never used a first party dreamcast controller but the mad catz dream pad is bretty gud desu
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>>381600281
Damn straight, and the vita would have been great if it were designed around the ds4 instead of a brick
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>>381609328
I 100% agree, Nintendo should be a third party.

But when it comes to innovation they are the best.

Also, the PS4 controller is the best for 2D/fighting games.

The Wii U pro controller has a button layout that is pretty shit. But I like its D-pad.
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>>381600281
it's baffling that they made DS4 prototypes with the vita d-pad and then removed it
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The DS2 and 3 are two of the best controllers ever made, and the DS4 is alright. You're just talking straight nonsense.
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>>381609628
Really?

Now way. That controller would be perfect with that.

Actually they should fix the trigger ergonomic and that's it. Maybe create a variation where the analog stick would be the primary controller.
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>>381600127
>For dualshock 1-3 the bumpers are the main shoulder buttons, with triggers being secondary. Developers like rockstar just misunderstood and had default mapping to R2/L2 for shooting, when really R1/L1 were meant for shooting.
is this what sonyfags that have never used another controller think? because if you've ever played on another console this feels retarded and goes against your muscle memory. the few times i played a PS3 game mapped like that, i changed the controls immediately because it feels like ass.
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>>381608781
nevermind that the list of successes would be bigger than this shit you just spouted, how would that even work as an argument for innovations being meaningless?
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>PS1 and PS2
Same opinion no problems with either
>PS3
Felt flimsy in my hands, you could hear the plastic bending and making these squeeky sounds. The anolog sticks also had of habit of getting loose or they start sticking at on direction. Worst part is that the controller would evetually start inputing other buttons randomly
I've replaced atleast 4 remotes and they all ended up the same
>PS4
Touch pad and light are annoying but atleast their better built than PS3 remotes
Spilled coffe on one and kept working fine
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>>381609328
They won't. People have been saying "Nintendo is doomed!" for 20 years and they are doing well right now, much better than 20 years ago. Wii U was a failure but 3DS made up for it and overall they have been turning a profit. They banked so much with Wii&DS the earliest they would run out of money is in the 2050s. And that's if they were to make big losses every year and they are not doing that.
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>>381608781
>Nintendo tried to innovate with the Wii and Motion controls
>MASSIVELY failed
holy shit bro pass me whatever paint you're huffing
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BEST CONTROLLER COMING THROUGH
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>>381609961
did you know soul calibur 1 supports playing with a keyboard?
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>>381603491
The Wii Remote (& Nunchuk) weren't replaced until the Switch, though. That's 2 generations.
Only reason you say it was replaced was because of the Wii U tablet, but they were still in production.
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>>381609961
The feeling of mechanical keyboards is one of the greatest things in the world.
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>>381609961
Thats for typing
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>sony controller suck

As opposed to the garbage D-pads on the 360 and stiff analogue sticks?
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PS3 controller was one of the worst I've ever used, you have to have Asian woman hands or be a mega manlet to use that tiny thing comfortably
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>>381610309
Or just not fat, but that's asking too much now isn't it?
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>>381610291
Dumb Moco Poster
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>>381610373
>fat = long hands

What are you even trying to say
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>>381610195
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>>381609987
Time to spin up a copy; I happen to have the DC keyboard.
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>>381610454
I'm making assumptions like you are because you seem to think you need to have small hands in order to comfortably use a dualshock, which makes me angry because people will parrot your opinion. Stop being an angry manchild and relax your hands, let the controller rest in your palms. You don't need to smash buttons or squeeze the goddamn thing.
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>>381598547
PS1 pad is solid as fuck though.

Hell, Luffy won Evo with one.
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>>381599993
Splatoon's gyro aiming only works because you had a rather large object to manipulate. It sucks on normal-size controllers.
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>Useless touchpad
>Laughable battery life
Those are my problems with the DS4, also triggers seem to activate to the slightest touch, more often than not I end up pressing them accidentally.
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>>381600127
>Because honestly otherwise it's the same shit
No it's not. 3 feels cheaper than 1 and 2.

>>381609212
Flat triggers are the best.

>>381600386
This nigga knows.

>>381609464
Not him, but
>better layout
>better dpad

>>381601905
>Lumping DS3 with 1 and 2.
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>>381610920
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW3B0slwCA0
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>>381603027
>i would swap DS2 and GCN
No.

>>381602170
>forcing two joysticks in terrible positions on a bad controller
git gud
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>>381611206
And you can play Doom 4 just fine with analog sticks. Big deal.
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>>381611491
(you)
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>>381598547
>>381598547
actually PS1 controller was ahead of the time at that time

I remember when the first time I saw it I got strong impression where the shaping and design of the controller had sense of the future deciding next decade 3d gaming experience. just compare it with other controllers of that time

the problem is that they were sticking with the shape until quite recently
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>>381611725
It's a console game against AI. It's not hard to do well with a controller.
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>>381611910
The controller is good.
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>>381598547
if it's not broken don't fix it
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