>Gen 7 is almost over and it's already an unfinished

Literally everything

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>>381592904
Can someone rundown me on what is wrong with this game beside being arguably too easy ? gf is still playing it atm and she's loving every single bit of it. I played it too a bit and felt like the logical step to take for the pokemon franchise.

Whats so bad about it ?

oh hey pokebarney, you forgot to post that picture of yours that lists blunders which are curiously only nintendo titles

>>381592904
Is it worth buying? Sun/moon and black2/white2 are the only Pokémon games I haven't played.

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>>381593705
Daily reminder that Pokebarney did nothing wrong.

the "dude powerful hardware lmao" meme exiting past the Dreamcast

>>381592904
>What the fuck went so horribly wrong?
GF realized it can half-ass shit and still make a gorillion dollaroos from stupid nostalgiafags and their idiot children.

>>381592904
>What the fuck went so horribly wrong?
Graphics obsession. Game Freak actually went full retard and became so obsessed with high poly models that game fucking tanks. They wasted so much time on developing 600-700 full 3D models they didn't have much left for the game in the case of X/Y. In S/M they decided that X/Y wasn't nearly slow enough, so they decided to add shit like trainer models and animations to the battles to fuck it up even further. They got away with back sprites looking like total shit on the GB, so I have no idea what spurned them to become graphics whores. They didn't even fall for the 3D meme because the game isn't even optimized for that. So it's just GF being retarded at coding as usual.

Can't say it's a precedent.

>>381593435
Hours of cut scenes
Slow game engine
Poor fps in battle
General series fatigue

>>381593906
BW2 are the best games in the series

The only thing I didn't like was the inability to skip cutscenes and dialog. I guess there should be more post story but personally it doesn't bother me much.

>>381592904
>What the fuck went so horribly wrong?
I don't even know but it's the first Pokémon game I couldn't enjoy. It was boring as fuck.

>>381594484
When is the video game industry going to crash from over saturation? It happened in the 80s.

>>381593435
the trials are literally just gym battles but called trials. It was supposed to be some big shake up for the franchise and it's literally the same thing with different wording. I do like a lot of the new pokemon though but they're kind of a pain to find honestly. Personally I felt they were the weakest starters to date too. x and y at least had greninja and chesnaught had a fanbase. I don't feel like the new ones are anybodies favorites but maybe I'm missing some shit.

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>we will never get non-gamefreak pokemon game

>>381595380
Who would you want making it

>>381595448
Anybody but gamefreak. Even HAL would be better.

>>381595380
FUCKING THIS.

Fuck even fucking Atlus would do the games better than Gamefreak. At least they have years of veteran dev experience, unlike GF which just got lucky with a shitty, glitched to hell and back RPG.

>tfw Pokémon is too bloated now and nothing can bring it back to its more comfortable roots
Fuck megas

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>>381592904
>What the fuck went so horribly wrong?

>Like CoD and Ass Creed in the West, people kept eating up whatever Game Freak shat out, even if it looked mediocre/garbage from the first showing
>Game Freak realized the fans will buy it no matter what they put out, hence shit like X/Y, S/M, and half-assed remakes like ORAS
>Design-wise, Game Freak bit off much more than they could chew with the 3DS hardware and decided to introduce full 3D models for the Pokemon battles. Clearly it was the wrong gen to do so, and now the games have performance problems and awful framerate issues. It's no longer even a "solid" 30fps like during the DS era, and an even further step down from the Gameboy era which had 60fps
>Ken Sugimori no longer does the trainer designs or Pokemon designs during the 3DS era. Ohmura takes over and introduces overdesigned trash
>Gameplay is beyond stale. Instead of doing interesting stuff like expanding the move pool from 4 to 6 or doing something to make battles faster, the games largely play the same as they always have, except now at a sluggish 20fps

TL;DR: Pokemon has been on a downward decline since the DS era.

>>381595662
It has to end sometime, 1000 pokemon is too fucking much.

Why can't they just make a couple games without adding new shitty pokes and instead try to improve everything else.

>>381595825
Pokemon is like Yu-Gi-Oh at this point. It's clear they've run out of ideas when the power creep kicks in hard.

>>381593435
>The set-up of the plot is generally considered uninteresting and boring.
>The island challenge is generally accepted as the way GF could make a game with less content that nobody would notice
>The games have a significant lack of optional or post game material
>Easy, but you knew that
>Most of the totem pokemon have ai set to discourage actually attacking
>"Competitive" was absolutely destroyed by it
>The general slowness of progression, since every few minutes Hau or Lillie stop you to tell you the same shit they told you a few minutes ago (get in the bag, nebby meme was because of this)
>The increased narrative is offset by the fact that the story is Lillie's, and you are only there as the psychopathic ID with an unresponsive, dead fish stare the whole time, which annoys people.
>muh linear progression
>Graphical faggotry/programming incompetence. The models are retardedly hi-poly and not scaled down at all, and while X/Y more or less ran okay, S/M chugs occasionally in 1v1 battles and fucking tanks in doubles (the meta they push, btw) because they had to add more shit the 3ds couldn't handle like trainer animations.
>Despite the above, the models look like shit because they are animated like shit. You get the memegliders, pokemon motionlessly pivoting on space they don't occupy, and general stiffness all around
>muh gen 1 pandering
>Tons of walled-off and unfinished content
>Obvious missing content to either slowly trickle into your game via events, or else to make you play Ultra
>The plot is generally considered to be massively wasted potential for what they could have done with it
>Few new pokemon, and most of them either look like shit, play like shit, or memed all over competitive
>S&M were caught in a dead zone of being too "safe" of departures from the basic formula. As a result, they were neither innovative, or "good" pokemon games
>Waifu pandering
>Pokewaifu pandering

Take your pick. Some are memes, others legitimate complaints.

>>381594578
649 of those models were already done for Pokedex 3D. They just changed a few textures here and there. There's no excuse.

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>>381593906
get BW2 right fucking now.
SM is okay but nothing special outside of a few totem pokemon fights.

>>381595448
monolith soft. imagine it

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>we will never get a pokemon game as good as Black and white ever again

All i ask for is BW but with a larger map and more in depth story

>>381595825
That's basically what XY and SM did though, instead of adding 100-150 new pokemon like previous games they added 70 and some new forms. SM even took it one step further and made it so there was no national pokedex. They're clearly trying to make it so each game has a small number of pokemon, but they also don't want to break backwards compatibility.

>>381595972
>yfw you realise Pokebarneyfag was right about absolutely everything
He really is the hero that we need but not the one we deserve.

They should stop with the handholding/cutscene.

Or at least make it optional. I like how you were free after 10 minutes in the gameboy games.

>>381595730
There's actually a quote floating around somewhere from the guy who did HG/SS and from the guy who did ORAS.
The HG/SS guy basically said: People kept asking me if the games really need all of this stuff. They are just remakes. I don't feel that way, I think I can make a completely new experience, and want to fill these games with as much as possible. I think the only reason I stopped was I couldn't figure out where to put more.
The ORAS guy basically said: Kids have things like cell phones and tablets, and most won't play these games long enough before moving on to the next thing to find everything, so there's no point in including things like the battle frontier.

>>381595730
BW2 was the peak 2bh probs reached the limit on number of mons, reasonably fast engine, lots of content
Been all downhill since then

>>381595662
Gens 6 and 7 didn't even add that many pokemon. I'm pretty sure Gen 5 added more than both combined.

>>381595825
just retcon gens 6 and 7. easy

>>381596161
>garbage bag Pokemon

>>381596145
Only if Shogo 2 is an easter egg within the game itself.

>>381596467
>angry stone Pokemon

>>381596467
>eggs pokemon
>magnet pokemon

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>>381596467
it had the most pokemon ever added in the series and was a fresh start with new designs and ideas but they were never fully executed

also you are acting like gen 1 didn't have shitty designs too, and unlike gen 5 which had mostly garbage designs gen V had mostly good designs with a few stupid ones here and there.

also it had MORE THAN 70 FUCKING POKEMON HOLY SHIT WHAT WERE THEY THINKING

>>381596640
>>381596561
>dirty gypsy Pokemon
Fair enough

>>381596387
I remember the quote from the ORAS guy.

That made me write off picking up the remakes that year.

>>381596397
I keep hearing BW2 was good but honestly the trainer designs and the majority of the Pokemon designs introduced turned me off to getting them. The last game I picked up was Heartgold, which I thought was great. After that I figured Pokemon just wasn't for me anymore.

>>381593435
Honestly I didn't have a problem with the game being too easy. The first Kahuna swept my team. You just have to not use exp share.

Does SuMo really only use 70 mons

>>381596668
As a player since '99 your genwunner is showing hard.

>>381596771
The real question is that is there a fucking leaf Pokemon?

>>381594739
But none of that is a sign of bad game design, which is what makes a bad game BAD.

The "hours of cutscenes" is a hyperbole, I played through the whole game and sure, the cutscenes were rather intrusive but the story itself was entertaining, some people will have more of a tolerance for reading text than others, which makes it a matter of opinion.

The "slow" game engine is another matter of opinion. Everyone perceives time differently so I can't judge anyone's complaints of it being slow.

And while low FPS are always disappointing to see, it's a turn-based RPG. There're no twitch decisions to be made which means gameplay isn't affected. It's the same as the "slow" complaint.

As for series fatigue... Some people just can't eat icecream everyday.

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>>381597119
who knows

>>381597018
70ish new ones and a good amount of returning

>>381596438
It's not the number of pokemons, it's the gameplay that's bloated.
What's all these Megas? What's all these trainer posing to give Pokémon more power?
Although I'm also not a fan of region Pokémon of first gen ones.

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>>381596986
>The first Kahuna swept my team
>being this casual
Disgusting. This is the kind of person who's never played a proper bullet hell and thinks Sans was a hard boss.

>>381596969
BW2 is fantastic gameplay and content wise but BW had the better characters and by far the best story in the entire franchise.
If you wanna give gen V a try I'd really recommend playing BW first and BW2 second because on its own I honestly don't consider it as good as other people do.

They made them for casuals. They said in an interview that they make them for the children who use smartphones.

I haven't played pokemon since Diamond and Pearl.

Should I play BW1 or BW2 or both.

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>>381597171
>The "slow" game engine is another matter of opinion. Everyone perceives time differently so I can't judge anyone's complaints of it being slow.

>>381594578
>In S/M they decided that X/Y wasn't nearly slow enough
Actually in /vp/ an anon went into the code and found out that the programming behind battles in SM constantly re rendered the models over and over for no reason at all which slows the game down tremendously.

>>381596986
The exp share literally has nothing to do with difficulty. It just effects your grind time.
When people say difficulty, they mean things like trainer ai and team size, or a member of the elite four not having a pokemon WITH TWO FUCKING MOVES.

>>381595730
Cod2 was so good and look at the franchise now

>>381596969
Honestly BW2 is amazing, you should give it a chance.

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>>381597171
>The "slow" game engine is another matter of opinion. Everyone perceives time differently so I can't judge anyone's complaints of it being slow.
>Dialgafags in this much denial

>>381596668
>largely gen 1 bias
>memes and buzzwords galore

Fuck off with this shit. I have a heavy preference for the Gameboy era (gens 1-3) myself but this image makes a piss poor argument.

>>381597171
1 Yen has been deposited into your account. Thank you for your cooperation. Please understand!
t. TPCi

>>381597441
Play HGSS then if you still want more pokemon play BW1 then 2, if only because a playthrough of 2 is improved by having played the first one.

For SM they had to rush the game because they had to meet the 25th aneversary for pokemon. /vp/ went into the code and found a shit ton of unused stuff like areas your house is way bigger than it is in the game with a garage and other rooms, fully modeled pokemon to follow you are still in the game data, the golf course and dozens of un used caves to name a few things.

>>381594119
I liked SM but all these criticisms are spot on

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>>381597631
If I was going to buy a modern Pokemon game it would have been BW1, so I might just do that provided I can get them for a decent price.

MAYBE BW2 as well if I ended up liking BW1. But again, I only liked a small selection of the designs. I'd probably end up dumping all the new ones and just using my favorites from Gen 1- 3.

Wait does people still play this series?
Whats even the point of buy the new games, there's no new pokemon or anything enjoyable.
It was fun til GEN V, now the series is boring as fuck.

I wish that they could have an actually good multiplayer system. The PSS was a good start but they went and made that gay castle.

>>381598193
Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like?

>>381597546
retarded if true

>>381598165
BW1 only has new mons. 2 on the other hand has a lot returning of fan favourites.

>>381597441
I'm you except I played Heartgold after Diamond. Diamond sucked ass.

This guy>>381597897 is right. Get HG/SS and if you enjoyed either of them try BW1. The 3DS era Pokemon games just haven't been worth it.

>>381598403
It is I don't have the pic with me now. It is also a reason they cut 3D entirely.

>>381597550
>XY league doesnt even have a full team
This was serious bullshit. there are mid game gyms harder to beat than the kalos league.

>>381594484
This. Why put significant time and effort into games when people will still eat your shit up even if you don't try? Pokemon games will sell tons no matter what they do, might as well expend as little effort as necessary.

I am glad I stopped playing in crystal

>>381597550
>The exp share literally has nothing to do with difficulty
pretending to be retard
don´t grind if you want a challenge

>>381598407
>2 on the other hand has a lot returning of fan favourites.

Favorites from BW1 or just all of the past entries? If either is true, you'd sell me on getting BW2 instead since I assume it'd filter all the shit designs.

>>381598403

GF does everything in the worst way possible.

>>381593435
>Cutscenes every 5 minutes, game only becomes playable when you reach the third island.
>SOS mechanics when you don't want to Shiny-chain/EV Train and just want to level up/catch a damn Pokemon.
>Elite Four consists of 2 characters you already fought before, and one that you already know.
>No National Dex, your save file will never read more than "302" Pokemon even if you have all 802 of them.
>They put the evolution location for Crabrawler and Charjabug so damn late into the game it made them not worth using.
>No puzzles...at all. Unless you consider those 3 rock-pushing puzzles in the Ruins to be "puzzles".
>Ultra Beasts are not really part of the plot, only Nihilego shows up, fight it once and then they leave them for the postgame.
>No hunting for a Legendary Pokemon hidden deep in a dungeon, the only real "hidden" legendary is Necrozma and it's a random encounter in a regular area.
>Dungeons are very basic and linear, the only place that feels like a real dungeon is Vast Poni Canyon.
>A lot of areas feel like they should have had more in them but they scrapped the idea. Why Resolution Cave looks like the Zygarde Chamber from Terminus Cave? why the Lighthouse is not accessible? what is with the Golf Course? why the Volcano is not exploreable and you just teleport from one entrance to the exit? why can't you enter that yellow building in Malie Garden?
>No matter what you do, you can't breed and evolve a regular Marowak/Exeeggutor/Raichu in this game.
>There isn't a place good enough to level up your Pokemon even though it's the first game that makes it so important to get a Pokemon to level 100.
>They made most new Pokemon rare - most of them are 10% encounter in grass and others are 10% encounter in bubbling spot (Dhelmise, Bruxish). Not to mention Pokemon that only appear during SOS Battles like Mareanie.

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>mfw hacked 3ds
>mfw pirating every 3ds poke game
>mfw injecting pokes left and right
>even super rare event ones
>mfw giving all of my pokes perfect IVs and EVs with PChex++ and PKhex
>mfw buyfags/antihackfags have to grind and breed for hours on end to do what i can do in mere seconds

>>381598759
>Most areas are seperated by "loading gates" and although it doesn't take long to load the next area, it's pretty annoying to see a black screen every damn time you open a fence in Hau'oli City or go through a hole (Po Town)
>Only 81 new Pokemon. Not the smallest gen (that was VI) but second smallest.
>Out of those 81 new Pokemon, they officialy revealed 68 of them (84%) including all the Ultra Beasts, and outside of 18 Alola Formes, they revealed 15 (only Geodude line wasn't revealed). It made people believe the game will have much more Pokemon we didn't see, and when the number was revealed a lot of people were disappointed and we barely had any surprise encounters with new Pokemon.
>Even though they tried to avoid the mistake they did with ORAS Demo when it was possible to datamine the whole game, they made the mistake again and all the new Pokemon were datamined when the demo was released
>Encounter with Red and Blue would be the biggest surprise of the game and they ruined it by revealing it in a trailer.

>>381597546
source

>>381598731
BW1 has only new designs but BW2 has loads of the bold favorites, I beat the game with a team with just Gen 1-4 mons

>>381592904
But Sun and Moon were lightyears better than all of Gen 6.

>>381598731
Past entries. BW2 has the largest national dex of the series and it's packed with good shit.

Alright homos, any of you saying it's too easy clearly don't know how to play

1, go into options and turn off the battle prediction. This eliminates the free switch you get after a knock out
2, turn off experience share so your team doesn't over level passively
3, run from all wild encounters unless you areally catching something, every. Single. One. Again this stops you from over leveling
4, finally don't use any items in battle like health restoratives

These are crutches that exist to allow little kids to make it through the game. If you want a challenging game try not playing it in kid mode??

Reminder that BW2 was kino pokemon and we'll never have that level of pokemon again.
The dream is dead bros.

>>381598731
The latter.
The first or second route you can catch shit like Mareep and Riolu.

>>381599015
don't forgot wild eevees

>>381594119
>only 300 mons + some more with island scan

This is bad?! Fuck him, I don't want another kalos for fucks sake.

>>381599073

A shame the HA eevee you can get in game is limited to post game. Would love to have a magic bounce Espeon in game.

>>381598043
>fully modeled pokemon to follow you are still in the game data

They better implement this in USUM, why go through the trouble of making all those walking models only to not use them?

>>381598960
>turn off experience share so your team doesn't over level passively

You shouldn't even have to turn that off, the levels of Pokemon should scale with you. It is so fucking basic, how has gamefreak not implemented this yet, even romhacks of X/Y ORAS and SM can do it.

>>381593435
>too easy

People who say this mean that battles in story mode are not difficult. That's not really the point of pokemon, and it's not where the actual challenge is.

The challenge of the game is taking on the RNG to catch breed and train perfect pokemon. It's about collecting, not great battle mechanics.

>>381598887
It was posted by an data miner that unveiled all the hidden things about the game. I do not have the source but it was like 2 weeks ago it was found.

>>381599180
Because they had to rush to meet the 25th anniversary deadline. It is also possible that the o3ds cannot run it and it would have made it for the n3ds only.

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>>381598893
>>381598935
>>381599015
>>381599073
Looks like I'll skip BW1 and get BW2 then. Thanks.

It's a damn shame they fucked up Sugimori's trainer designs from BW1, but that aside I'm starting to get why people love BW2 so much.

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>>381592904
You grew up.

>>381599384
Good taste.

>>381599180

Something they prepared for the switch games but left in the code of SM.

>>381599367

Have any IRL Pokefag friends? You get bonuses if you connect them to a save file of BW1.

>>381599367
>Skip BW1
Don't.
A lot of the experience of BW2 comes from playing BW1 first since it's a direct sequel storywise.

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>>381595327
Rowlet was okay, but the others weren't that great. you can tell GF wasted a lot of potential with them since there's fan art that came out before the full evolutions were announced that looks better than the real thing.

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>>381598532
>Tfw stopped playing Pokémon after crystal because I had no friends who played it

>>381599543
>Something they prepared for the switch games but left in the code of SM
those are low poligons models anon

>>381598960
I did that and Nuzlocke'd it and only lost 7 pokemon over the game, 3 of which were intentional sacrifices.

>>381592904
>tfw people said I wouldn't be able to resist and would end up buying Sun / Moon even though I complained pre-release that it was shaping up to be worse than X/Y after playing the demo
>tfw I actually didn't buy it

I'm so glad I dodged this bullet. The final release ended up more disappointing than I expected. The idea of trading gums for different challenges could be good, but the execution was terrible in this game. They managed to have an abysmal amount of new Pokémon and the gen 1 pandering, hand-holding and yet again lack of post-game were unacceptable. My only regret was not seeing the writing on the wall sooner and buying X/Y as well as OR/AS.

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>>381599384
Choose your destiny.

>>381596969
>After that I figured Pokemon just wasn't for me anymore.
I felt that way after playing X, and having played Moon, I can say that's definitely the case. B/W are good, though. They were the last games I actually enjoyed playing through.

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>>381599384
>Not posting the template
What are you doing?

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>>381599661
>tfw Ballio was btfo by trannyseal

>>381599543
>Have any IRL Pokefag friends?

I have a few buddies but I'm pretty sure they've long since moved on to X/Y and/or S/M. But thanks for the info.

>>381599573
Is the story "in your face" like I hear S/M is? I preferred the Gameboy era games because while the plot was there, it was largely hands off. If it's like S/M I'm skeptical of getting into the story.

>>381600082
>I have a few buddies but I'm pretty sure they've long since moved on to X/Y and/or S/M. But thanks for the info.

As long as they have the cart still and have a safe file that cleared the game, it won't make a difference.

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I will never forgive them for what they did to crabrawler, he could have been such a cool pokemon.

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>>381592904
OR/AS are the best pokemon games though.

>>381600082
The BW story is much better. Plus much fewer cutscenes.

>>381600426
>BW story is much better
>lying on the internet

>>381599195
>the levels of Pokemon should scale with you.
That has never been good in any game. Level scaling is objectively a bad idea.

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>>381599895
>>381600426
Alright, a few other anons sold me on BW2 but I might give BW1 a chance also.

Dunno if it makes a difference but did either of you like Gen 4 (Diamond/Pearl)? Because I didn't like Diamond and I thought that was it for me until I played Heartgold.

>>381600232
Cool, thanks again.

>>381600350
They were awful

>>381600350
low quality bait

>>381600591
It was better though. It had much better pacing, much better characterisation and major characters that you didn't wish were killed by Lusamine on the spot in Ultra Space.

>>381599195

SM does do it, it sucks ass. Makes post game grinding a bitch.

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>>381600591
>he actually thinks space squids invade hawaii is better than BW

>>381600668

Diamond/Pearl are universally considered to be awful. Platinum had to make a ton of small fixes to make it enjoyable.

>>381595136

>It happened in the 80s.

I never understood this. How did the game industry crash in the 80s? There was barely anything there wasn't there? Atari and NES? I'm pretty unaware of early gaming stuff despite being a 90s babby.

>>381600668
Gen 4 is my favourite but that's because of Pt and HG/SS, never actually played D/P

Mega evolutions and alolan forms as a substitute for actual new pokemon

>>381600668
Diamond definitely suffers from the legends are God syndrome. it's toned down a fair bit in BW

>>381600674
>>381600718
Why? I had tons of fun.
Soaring, Dexnav, Secret bases, and those sweet 10/10 ending credits were some of the best parts of the game.

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So when did you realise that Pokebarneyfag was absolutely right?

Seriously why the fuck does he get so much hate on here and /vp/. Pokemon really is shittier now and so are most other Nintendo franchises

>>381600730
>much better pacing
what?
>much better characterisation
N
>major characters that you didn't wish were killed by Lusamine on the spot in Ultra Space
again, what?
>>381600758
I didn´t say that, BW plot was just embarrassing

>>381601016
No battle frontier
Dumbed down gym leaders
Handing out legendaries

>>381600881

Too much devivative garbage and no way to keep consumers informed as to what is actually worth a damn.

Too many people had no idea what was good, bought unplayable garbage, then just stopped buying vidya.

>>381600668
Diamond and Pearl was pretty mediocre. Platinum made up for a lot of their shortcomings and fixed a lot of shit and ended up being pretty great. HGSS are solid remakes.

>>381601083
>much better pacing
Pacing tends to improve when your gameplay isn't interrupted by cutscene after cutscene.

>N
N was infinitely more tolerable and less shilled than Lillie. Plus he had a much better backstory, which Lillie was clearly trying to ape.

>>381601016
soaring is just slower Fly and secret bases were in RSE so that doesnt count as an ORAS mechanic. The fact that they just copy pasted the maison, widely agreed to be the worst battle facility ever, is a serious blow.

>>381601070

> Games later pretend that there the good guys

Retard.

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>>381600865
>>381600887
>>381600974
>>381601158
Makes sense, Diamond was the first entry I never bothered to finish. I did get Platinum for free but never finished that either, probably cause Diamond left a bad impression. I ended up selling it to a friend.

Guess I'll check out Gen 5 then. Thanks again anons, you were really helpful.

>>381601106
>No battle frontier
It wasn't that great of an addition anyway. It would just be instant KO moves and RNG bullshit in 7 different facilities again.
>Dumbed down gym leaders
I haven't noticed any significant changes but it would have been nice if all gym leaders had at least 5 pokemon in any game.
>Handing out legendaries
This has always been a thing in modern pokemon games, and always WILL be a thing thanks to wifi. You can also opt to just not use them.

None of the above complaints make any significant impact on the game.

>>381600668
I played D/P around the time they first came out, and I didn't have a problem with them. I tried Platinum years later and just was bored, since they're pretty much the same. I can't go back to Gen 4.

>>381600350
As a Gen III fag who's first game was Ruby, no they weren't.

>>381601383
The LE EPIK TWIST :^) with Aether Foundation was spoiled right from the opening cutscene.

>>381599661
I'm kinda glad Litten's final evo was leaked before the mid evos were revealed, I would have been incredibly disappointed to see Incineroar after Torracat, which was my favorite mid evo. I agree that Decidueye is the best.

>>381601083
N was fine and acted as a good foil to the MC's story instead of some over the top villain and ended up waking the fuck up. The only really shitty thing I didn't like about N was Dennis being the SatAM cartoon villain in the end.

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>>381601070
>main character doesn't look like a retard

>>381601269
>soaring is just slower Fly
But more fun and visually appealing. If they cut out the unnecessary mega evolution while doing it, it would be perfect.
> and secret bases were in RSE so that doesnt count as an ORAS mechanic.
Now you're just desperately looking for reasons to hate the game.
> The fact that they just copy pasted the maison,
A legitimate complaint finally! Yes, I hate the maison too but all post game battle facilities have always sucked.

>>381592904
if the switch game turns out to be shit then pokemon's pretty much dead

>>381601483

Again

>Games later pretend that there the good guys

Retard.

If you're going to put effort into bait, at least make sure it's done right.

>>381600887
>>381601471
Gen 5 is overall mediocre, but never listen to people who recommend B2W2 over BW. B2W2 set the precedent of obnoxious cutscenes and intervals that are rarely skippable. At least BW has better designs and is straight forward overall.

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>>381601551
But you do get a better pet to take care of.

>>381601676
What alternate reality do you live in?

>>381601070
>the main character doesn't look like a retard
Right. He looks like a faggot.
>game story treats you like an adult
You're an errand boy for 90% of the game.

>you can't defeat bosses by spamming magic attacks their weak to
This is actually the only way to beat Minotaur.

I always thought comparing Pokemon to SMT was retarded. But SMTfags take it to a whole new level of bait.

Reminder that it takes an average of 30 minutes in SM to get your first pokemon, 15 minutes if you're speedrunning.

>>381598813
>tfw he doesn't realize that it's not about the goal, but it's about the journey
Why do you think everything takes so long in Pokémon games, anon?

>>381601228
BW was the game of N even more than Lillie
I guess he have a pass here for being autistic
Agree with the pacing, they aren´t as bad as you are trying to make it look though, just a bit longer but better than previus gen

>>381601676
But BW2 has the gameplay, which is what actually matters in the end.

>>381592904

everything went right perfectly and you can do nothing about it

>>381596986
>It's not too easy if you purposefully gimp yourself.
I don't want to have to gimp myself, I want to focus and overcome to the best of my ability, which is the exact opposite of deliberately holding myself back.

If I was a Football couch or some shit who was upset that the game was becoming too easy, I wouldn't accept "Just don't let your players practice until they become shit." as a valid solution. I'd rather have more intelligent opponents that taxed my actual abilities and mental reasoning.

>unfinished
Except there's actually a Game 2, as opposed to Gen VI.

>>381598960
How about this, don't play kiddie games if you want a challenge?

>>381599942
I'm still mad it turned into a mermaid and didn't keep the clown thing

>>381601865
>what actually matters in the end
no

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>>381601676
>never listen to people who recommend B2W2 over BW
This. The way people actually keep recommending BW2 while almost never saying specifically why they think it's "good" makes me think there's some dedicated cult on this site that push them every moment they get.

>>381601961
There are kiddie games that do offer a challenge. Like the entire fucking NES library. There is absolutely no excuse.

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Gamefreak needs to make actual improvements instead of removing features in the next game and then re-adding some of them in the game after to trick kids into thinking they're making better games.
They also need to rebalance the entire game so battle tower postgame stuff isn't like gambling and is more about skill.

>>381601835
>wanting to waste hours sometimes even days of your time just so you can compete with people online without getting BTFO in an instant

>>381599137
Should've had more in postgame, though. Kalos was definitely shit, but there's no reason Alola couldn't have a halfway decent postgame.

>>381602068
It has a better post-game, basically. The main game is better in B/W. B/W2 also has the move tutors that make things interesting.

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>>381592904
>Gen 7 is almost over
I can't believe people really think Gen 8 is coming out on the Switch in 2018. Its going to be an updated port of USUM. If you people followed GF interviews and statements you would know this to be the case.

>Gamefreak STILL thinks "postgame" means "additional story and dialogue" instead of repeatable battle-related things.

>>381602068
They are good because the story was a decent follow up to BW, the battling mechanics and options were good and fairly balanced and the roster of available mons is one of the best in any game.

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>>381601475
>I tried Platinum years later and just was bored, since they're pretty much the same. I can't go back to Gen 4.

Yeah the same thing happened to me. I just ended up writing off 4 entirely apart from the Gen 2 remakes.

>>381601676
>>381602068
>B2W2 set the precedent of obnoxious cutscenes and intervals that are rarely skippable.

Okay now I don't know which is the case but I'm inclined to try emulating BW2 before I drop money on Gen 5.

>>381602068
But they did list reasons, such as the expanded national dex.

>>381595730
The DS era was the golden era you faglord

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>>381595730
>step down from the gameboy era
Listen, if your favorite Pokemon game isn't Emerald, Platinum, HGSS or BW2, you have shit taste and I don't give a fuck what you have to say about the series. Sorry mate.

>>381602435
I don't know what they're talking about, BW1 is the one with obnoxious cutscenes while 2 is fine.

>>381602435
Why the heck WOULDN'T you try to emulate it or look up footage for games before buying it?

>>381602435
You might as well emulate both at this point.

>>381602528
>HG/SS
I still think the GB player should have been available from the start. Or maybe a new game+ item or something.
>>381602557
>obnoxious cutscenes
All I can recall is the ferris wheel, which is pretty short, and the castle.

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>>381602435
You have a few dialogue scenes at the start and then you're off. Honestly its less cutscenes than BW1, and I know this is true because I nuzlocked both this year.

BW2 is worth it for the Pokemon World Tournament alone. Every gym leader, every champion. Its amazing.

>>381602068
>buying Pokemon games
Trust me: all the good Pokemon games can be emulated. I don't agree with people recommending Gen 5, but you should definitely avoid everything from the 3DS era.

>>381596668
>gen 1
>believable designs
You consider a pile of eggs and barney to be viable pokemon?

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>>381602528

>>381602776
meant for >>381602435

>>381598514
You're aware that XY's E4 have the highest out of all the first run E4 ever, right? They're basically champion level.

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>>381602528
>>381602498
I didn't say the DS era was bad. Heartgold is my favorite entry hands down, I meant the start of the 3DS era was the downward spiral.

I meant that in terms of performance the DS era was a step down since the framerate was reduced to 30, but it wasn't that big of an issue.

>>381602776
Buying them now is pointless, since you can't even engage in online play, and no one is going to play locally. Buying them when they came out was a good idea, though. I still have my DS titles, even if I just use a flash cart now.

>>381602528
>playing the cash grab version
everytime someone fall for this

>>381602068
Basically, there's a better selection of ingame pokemon in B2W2.

>>381602919

and yet they're piss easy as fuck. XY is a joke when it comes to difficulty.

>>381598960

Or, and bear with me here, what if they actually make the AI NOT discouraged from attacking, have enemy trainers that have actual teams, and have Elite Four with ACTUAL FUCKING TEAMS (that four pokemon team bs in X/Y made me rage hard)?

>>381602919
XY's E4 is a fucking joke. Worst E4 aside from Johto.

>>381602940
Gen 5 is fast as fuck, though. It was only Gen 4 that was slow.

Sun and Moon were complete shit when compared to the other games.

>annoying rotomdex that quips every two seconds, throws shitty lines when you catch a new pokemon, and displays a quest marker at all times
>starters are the shittiest thus far, only Rowlet looks okay but once it evolves it turns to complete shit
>characters show up constantly just to annoy you with a pointless cutscene, never giving the feeling that you're out exploring alone
>trials were a good idea, but are just inferior tedious gyms
>Elite 4 is complete garbage, three of them are made up of people you already beat
>Red and Blue's team is completely underleveled
>post game is a joke
>yet another Battle Tower copy/paste

>>381593906
Thirding the B2W2 response. Love the polish and selection of Pokes, plus the new areas are a nice improvement.

>>381603009
because you play with the exp share on

>>381602435
don't buy pokemon games, gen 5 games still cost 50~ bucks and HGSS costs around 70

>>381603021

BW2 did that with its hard mode. A shame they implemented it in the worst way possible and never brought it back.

>>381602709
Not your rivals stopping you 3 hundred times in every city? Really?
XY friends were bad but they didn't stop you as much as Cheren and Bianca.

>>381603009
That they're easy is irrilevant to the point at hand.

And well, at least they're not as bad as the Johto ones.

>>381602709
>I still think the GB player should have been available from the start.
That's honestly my only complaint

>>381603142
BW2 are $30 and HGSS are 50~, where the fuck do you live?

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>>381603121

i like how this is the only response people have when discussing difficulty, as if doing regular grinding to the appropriate level makes them any harder.

>>381603237
Ireland

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>>381603021
>>381603168
They did it decently in the main game, too. Iris is the second toughest champ aside from Cynthia and the PWT is brutal.

>>381603208
>XY friends were bad but they didn't stop you as much as Cheren and Bianca
You seriously need to play the game again, Cheren and Bianca did not show up that much, and when they did it was either to battle or give you some type of quest. XY rivals just showed up, said hi, and then left.

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>>381602941
Likewise. Although I don't think I could ever see myself parting with any of my Pokémon games pre-Gen V inclusive.

>tfw she will never appear ever again
>Didn't realise what I'd done when I reset my copy of HG until two weeks later

>>381598960
Dude, proper level scaling and decently challenging gyms/elites were achieved with plenty of pokemon games a decade ago.

Stop blaming the players' dissatisfaction for the games' faults.

>>381603082
>>Elite 4 is complete garbage, three of them are made up of people you already beat
This i love meeting literally whos who i never saw before and will never see again unless i do another run through the E4.

Also your last three points apply one to BW2 and the other to BW1.

>>381603321
>grind
>is easer
make me think

>>381593051

This

>>381603208
>Bianca and Cheren encounter
Those aren't cutscenes, though. They were also short and often included battles.
>>381603380
>reset my HG
Just hack it back in, m8. Oh wait, shit. GTS is down. Never mind.

>>381603373
Cheren and Bianca are annoying as fuck and bug you like five times before the second gym, its fairly obnoxious. They piss off after that for a bit though, its just the start that sucks. Still better than the XY friends and the beaten-dog of a rival that you humiliate constantly.

>>381595594
Altus does do the same game but better

>>381603274
About fucking time.
Now to see who's more broken, Black or White?

>>381603237
Not the same anon, but those prices are similar to the AustralIan and NZ ones. Maybe they've retained their price tags because they're suck good games

>>381603474
>Those aren't cutscenes, though
Neither are the ones in XY. They're just dialogs. Yveltal one or the cannon one are cutscenes.

>>381603380
I still have my TRU Arceus in SS, so I can keep doing the fucking awesome Sinjoh ruins thing.

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>>381595594

>tfw pokemon would be better off if it hadn't gained the popularity it did

complacency is one hell of a drug

>>381603474
It got boxed immediately anyway, but it still pisses me off so much that you couldn't transfer it up to Gen V, especially considering a sprite is in the original BW.

>>381603393
>and decently challenging gyms/elites were achieved with plenty of pokemon games a decade ago.
Platinum is just a single game though.

>>381603274
I haven't read that shit in ages. I think I left off towards the end of HG/SS.
>>381603625
>Neither are the ones in XY
Okay?

>>381592904
Gamefreak was never good. Remember this. They had to be bailed out by Iwawta on the first two games.

>>381603021
>and have Elite Four with ACTUAL FUCKING TEAMS (that four pokemon team bs in X/Y made me rage hard)
>but when BW does it, it's fine!

https://youtu.be/TtFFDDb2lXk check this out m8

>>381595730

3D was a mistake, HD sprites would've been god tier

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>people say the 3DS era are terrible
>look up to see how bad they really are

>mfw seeing the first hour of Sun/Moon
>mfw seeing the X/Y elite four
>mfw seeing what they did to the gym leaders in ORAS

How in the world did those games make money? Even kids must think this is an insult to their intelligence.

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>>381603680
Wish I had a TRU Arceus but I got Platinum two months before HGSS came out, so I can't.

Have fun with it though.

>>381603823
Don't they get full teams the second time you fight them?

>>381603823
>>but when BW does it, it's fine!

Except it's not. I honestly haven't played B/W in so long I forgot they did it too, X/Y is just much more fresh in my mind.

>>381603896
>underage advertising his shitty youtube channel

>>381603937

Masuda said kids these days have less patience then the last generation thanks to smart phones so they dumbed everything down. Considering the sales numbers, he was right.

>>381603937
>Even kids must think this is an insult to their intelligence.
They don't know any better.

>>381603937
Admittedly, I thought XY was okay because it was the introduction to me and my friends doing VGC.

Then SM came out and none of us touch Pokémon anymore save for Battle Revolution and fucking around on HGSS in our weekly meet-ups.

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>>381603951
Sorry, anon. At least you still have one of the best Pokemon games. Just replayed Platinum and had so much fun even though I prefer Black 2.

>>381603410
>This i love meeting literally whos who i never saw before and will never see again
It's miles better than fighting people you already defeated.

>Also your last three points apply one to BW2 and the other to BW1.
I'm assuming you're referring to BW when I said no post games, but none of my other points apply to it, which makes it a better game than SM.
The other points that apply to BW2 are just wrong. There was a battle tower copy/paste, but it also had the world championship thing and the white forest and black city facilities. Having a battle tower is fine, but JUST having a battle tower isn't.

>>381603937
>Kalos E4 only have 4 pokemon each
I'd hate to be the people that actually paid for XY.

>>381603065
>Gen 5 is fast as fuck, though.

As in 60fps fast or just gameplay-wise?

>>381602776
>you should definitely avoid everything from the 3DS era.

Already settled on that. I hope I don't have to say the same about the Switch games. But if more X/Y, S/M and half-assed remakes like ORAS are what's in store, looks like I'm done.

>>381604080
>>381603823
BW had rematch teams where the E4 and the Champ got beefed up.

XY did not.

>>381603952
They do, but that shouldn't be a thing. They also barely reach lv50. The last GYM of XY is lv59. At least BW2 fixed it, even fucking EASY MODE E4 has more than lv50 mons.

>>381603937
>>mfw seeing what they did to the gym leaders in ORAS
...nothing? I mean hell doing nothing is what people complain about.

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>>381603274
FUCKING WHAT!?

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Did they bring back Gym Leader rematches or the VS. Seeker yet?

>>381604185
>Lilligant
Never used one until I Nuzlocke'd Blaze Black. Named her Hope. She was my last pokemon, along with a Palpitoad. She fell to poison and Palpitoad to confusion AND poison. Haven't played since.

And fuck nuzlocke runs in Blaze Black 2. Roxie is an absolutely PITA. If you don't luck out with Magnemite, you're screwed.

>>381604185
Fair enough. BW2 were pretty great and I regret waiting until Christmas 2012 to get a copy. That being said I didn't realise they were direct sequels so I got White 2 when I already had Black and should've gotten Black 2. It feels weird having two Reshirams

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>>381604142
>none of us touch Pokémon anymore save for Battle Revolution and fucking around on HGSS in our weekly meet-ups
What the fuck anon

>>381604205
.....no, you got the order of the points completely reversed. BW2 Red and Blue suck, and BW1 postgame is a joke AND it has another BT copypaste.

>>381604229
I was having a shit year anon. Dad got leukaemia (he's fine now) and as a result my grades tanked. X/Y was the only thing I really had to look forward to that year.

>>381604343
>They do, but that shouldn't be a thing.
>shouldn't be a thing
The whole point of the first run was to establish N as the new champion for you to dethrone. It's pretty much completely illegitimate as a run.

>>381604379
Liligant is a fucking monster.

>>381604383
Can't you get both? I honestly can't remember. Ah well, at least you can still do the awesome memory link thing

>>381592904
If fans stopped praising every shitty game they got and demanding a game every year, this probably wouldn't happen.

>>381603934
>HD sprites would've been god tier

I hear you but Game Freak fucked up by making 800 something Pokemon now, and that would've taken a shitload of work plus whatever new ones they come up with each entry.

Best they could do now is when they make the Switch games, improve the lighting/shader engine, saturate the model colors more and give them some cool poses. They look bland as hell now currently. Still wouldn't be as good as sprites though.

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>>381603763
Black and White are pretty great. Probably the best the series has been in a while.
XY is ok. The overall tone is more down/depressing because X is a neet shut-in and is overall a bit more serious.
ORAS is pretty shit. Ruby is still a fucking faggot. The only good thing that came out of it was that they made Zinnia full on batshit insane and pic related.
BW2 started kinda meh but slowly picked up and then went on hiatus for god knows how long. It's finally resuming and the plot's picking up pretty quick.
SM looks alright so far.

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Should I sell my copy of Sun for $25?
Ultra Sun is just gonna be like Emerald/Platinum, right?

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>>381604375
>Gamefreak
>bringing back features people actually like

At this point, people should expect them to permanently remove the National Dex in the next few years.

>>381598454
>Diamond sucked ass
Love this meme

Platinum is part of the holy trinity, yet Diamond and Pearl are somehow the worst games in the series despite having less differences between Platinum than other games.

>>381604394
SM really did kill Pokémon for us, so now if we play Pokémon we play Gen IV via Battle Revolution if we aren't already playing something else like Double Dash, Halo, physical version of GWENT, etc.

Not seeing what the problem is.

>>381604613
Yeah, I actually really like Liligant design-wise. I'd gladly get one again.
>>381604640
Can I read this online, or can I seek a download somewhere?

>>381604657
Yeah, go for it anon. If this game doesnt have a god tier Postgame then the series is dead to me imo.

>>381604664
>he hasn't heard
There is no National dex in SM, anon. Biggest kick in the balls ever.

>>381604657
>Ultra Sun is just gonna be like Emerald/Platinum, right?
There's no evidence showing that to be the case. They've shown they don't have to try anymore, so why would they exert the effort to improve?

>>381597546
>>381598403
>>381598490
>>381598732
>>381598887
>>381599331
https://twitter.com/SciresM/status/872789631259095040

>>381604775

Platinum made a shit load of tiny fixes like the surf speed or Fantina telling you to fuck off until later when Norman is the only leader where that made sense.

>>381604834
http://jb2448.info/

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>>381601835
Oh, I know people like you. You make me chuckle.

>>381604818
>PBR
>mfw remember all the doubles team combinations people had online
I remember a video with a Hustle Delibird team. There was some really creative stuff being used in the game.

>>381604479
Your point about BW2 having underleveled Red and Blue is completely retarded though. You fight them at a fucking facility that locks your pokemon at level 50, unlike in Sun and Moon when you fight them without locks. BW did have no post game and the BT copypaste, but it didn't suffer from the problems that Sun and Moon have. They had okay stories and under ten minutes of cutscenes.

>>381604630
I really wish there was more stuff like Memory Link in future games.

Like it would've been cool if they had that in ORAS and Memory Links were done by having a 'mon from RSE in your party.

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RSE/ORAS contains best girl, so they aren't all bad.

>>381605037

She was only good in the remakes.

>>381604657
My gut tells me it'll be a sequel like BW2 were, so I'd hold off until we have more info anon.

>>381604775
I love Platinum but yeah DP were really lame. Garbage dex, garbage postgame, garbage speed. Platinum fixed everything, much like how Emerald fixed how bad RS were.

>>381605037
I really enjoyed Delta Episode, but the game just felt lazy.

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>>381604854
>There is no National dex in SM

HOLY SHIT. The ND was actually DLC? Why did so many people tolerate this?

>>381604921
Yeah, I liked creative shit like that even if it triggered me to hell and back.

>>381605123
Your gut is wrong, they already confirmed this.

>>381605037
ORAS were pretty good. Way better than XY, just not as good as Emerald.

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>>381605116
_No

>>381605218
>The ND was actually DLC?
No, the ND literally does not exist.

>>381605123

They called it an alternate take on the story, not a sequel.

>>381604351
Hugh found out that W2 was a dirty plasma member and confronted her
She snuck onto Corless's airship
Corless gives zero fucks about everything
B2 infiltrated the ship and found W2
He found out she was the plasma girl he was looking for and arrested her
They got blasted by Kyurem, turned into ice, and chucked into the ocean
N and Black are coming

>>381595448
Level 5

>>381604229
see
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>>381604282
They shouldn't have made the actual E4 suck so much on the first run then.

>>381604564
Okay?? Why couldn't they make them at least at N/Ghetsis level? They're the fucking Elite Four.

It's the same as when i see people defending the first run of the Sky Pillar in Emerald. ORAS's is pretty shit i admit, but at least the mons are lower leveled than RS but higher than E and the top floor makes it worth it.
Emerald is supposed to be Ray's game. Why is the ANCIENT FORGOTTEN TOWER OF THE LEGENDARY POKEMON so easy to traverse and only becomes challenging when you return? I mean at that moment as a developer you're pretty much supposed to go "okay we'll make the difficult dungeon with a puzzle so the player awakens the mon" but no.

>>381605297
>>381605218
>pokebank

>>381605218

Not DLC, they made it part of bank. Bank really should let you use that dex to update the dex in game.

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>>381592904
>what the fuck went so horribly wrong?
megaevolution.

I just want to sit in my chair and play Pokemon on the big screen. EV training, hatching, battle tower, online battles.

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Does anyone have the gifs/webms of all the games' gameplay speed?

>>381605424
Pokemon Switch will do that, hopefully its good.

i know it wont be

>>381605424
Get a GBA player and play Emerald or FRLG. Maximum comfy.

>>381604927
There's no reason why we don't have lv100 brackets. We had them in games before fourth gen.

Also maybe you didn't understand, but they actually suck. Blue isn't really that bad but in the PWT, even against other CPUs, Red is one of the worst trainers and loses 90% of the time.

SM has 15 min of cutscenes sans credits. Credits are pretty shitty though.

>>381605424

2019 friend. 2020 until we get that game with decent post game.

>>381605403
Pokebank is a separate app that uses cloud storage to store up to 3000 from games XY, ORAS, and SM. It is not SM DLC.

>>381605414
>megaevolution
This and the way people defended them was crazy.
>about 1/3 of the types have been gimped for years
>instead of improving their stats, they introduced gamebreakers for only a select few pokemon can utilize

>>381592904
USM will save gen 7

>>381592904
Gamefreak stopped caring, or in other words, they wisen up and realized that Pokemon will always sell by the literal boatloads, no matter how much, or how little effort they put in.

>>381605585

Red got buffed in the tree at least. He doesn't use Pikachu and mega zard can be annoying.

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>>381596668
>female characters weren't walking tropes

>>381605597
I didn´t say is a dlc, it isnt, is better than the national dex

>>381605558
>>381605592
I personally think the upcoming Switch title is Diamond/Pearl. Then they won't have to come up with new areas and storylines.

>>381605427
How the hell does this loop? Wouldn't you need to calculate the LCM of the lengths of every segment?

>>381605618
GF has this really stupid idea that types should follow the rules of the real world. Water puts out fire so fire is weak to water; glacial ice moves slow so ice types need to be slow. They aren't gonna fix stats because they don't feel they are broken.

>>381605809

>New hardware
>Not a new gen.

D/P remakes will be after gen 8.

>>381605382
Because they're not the final bosses. Also, they were defeated, meaning that they weren't as strong.

>Sky Pillar
That was for the sake of game pacing. You don't even catch/fight Rayquaza the first time you meet it; you only wake it up. I guess the alternative would be having Rayquaza just show up, but that would male the encounter more random and unexpected. Not really doing the box legendary many favors there.

>>381605809
The upcoming Switch title is USUM. They started development on it this year and they're already working on USUM for 3DS.

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>>381592904
I just hate that it made me realize how genwunners felt in BW.
It's my favorite game in the entire series because it introduced a giant Isopod Pokemon, Golisopod. I actually can't enjoy the older games at all and find them to be near-unplayable because they don't have it in them, and it makes me sad.
>tfw no BW2 mod with Golisopod

>>381593906
There's always piracy. Pokémon isn't hurting for sales and is all around anti-consumer with fully priced updates of content that was clearly withheld from the base game, so fuck them.

>>381605164
DP did not have a garbage postgame. A few sealed off areas become accessible, you gain entrance to the Battle Tower and a new mini-region within Sinnoh.

The only problem with the Dex was a lack of variety with Fire pokemon, which wasn't an issue if you picked Infernape.

The difference between RS and DP is that RS was okay to begin with, while DP was to good to begin with. Emerald was good and Platinum was great.

>>381605375
Level 5 would actually do very well. Even if Level 5's Pokemon would be mediocre, the sequel to it would beat the shit outta the previous entry because Level 5 actually learns from their mistakes, do not remove well regarded features remove or greatly improve on the flaws, and it'd run at a stable 30FPS most times.

>>381594119
there's no male numelgons

>>381605834
I'm not sure myself which is why I asked for a more accurate one. I could've sworn I once saw someone post a an accurate webm of surfing and battle interlude speeds but I never saved it.

>>381604889
that isn't quite the same thing as rerendering

>>381605930
>That was for the sake of game pacing
...in the same game that made me go through a tedious rocky puzzle just an hour before? Nah.

>>381602528
My favourite is Alpha Sapphire, but those ones are good too.

>>381605971
>The only problem with the Dex was a lack of variety with Fire pokemon, which wasn't an issue if you picked Infernape.
Is this a joke? DP's dex was fucking horrendous and you couldn't most of the sweet new Evos before postgame.

>>381606269
>all those pokemon tied to stone evolutions
Fuck all that.

>>381592904
>unfinished hackjob
Not an argument, and not even close to criticism. You're literally shitposting.
These games are the best in the series, and it's a good thing they'll set a precedent for every future gen of Pokemon. If you have a problem with it, the series is not for you. It's time to drop it. Constantly shitposting about it on /v/ or even /vp/ just shows how mentally ill you really are to be so obsessed over this and have such an irrational hate toward it.

If your ADD causes you to struggle going through the cutscenes, ask mommy to give you your adderall.

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>>381606675
>These games are the best in the series
>You post on a board with people who have this much shit taste

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>>381606269
>>381605971

Gen 4 would've been so much better if they replaced all the literally-who water types and the Unknown section with fire types.

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>>381606675
shush

>>381601106
>not battle frontier
opinion instantly disregarded. Battle Frontier fags are factually autistic. There's nothing fun about Battle Frontier. It's not a challenge, it's repetitive, boring. I can blow through it in a day with no problem at all.

>>381601676
Besides the long tutorials that BW2 has for introducing new features, the games actually let you play for long stretches before dumping exposition on you, unlike SM which stops you at every interval except for Vast Poni Canyon and the 2nd Aether Foundation visit.

>>381592904
-Worst grass pokemon in the series and if we're gonna follow patterns Gen 8's grass starter will be waifu trash faggots will eat up.

-Worst starters in the series.

-The protag feels like an afterthought since the game is heavily focused on lillie and her family problems and the protag's lack of emotions.

-All new Pokemon have a 10% spawn rate or SOS exclusive

-20th anniversary or not they blew their gen 1 load back in x/y so seeing it again a gen later comes off as obnoxious.

-Battle tree lacks online co-op which would have made it a bit more bearable

-Shitty festival slapped on making connecting online tedious

-Game padded out by removing mega stones implemented last gen and given out during events or through a code
I could go on but others have said the same shit.

>>381605931
No anon, let this gen die, please.

>>381606876
Finneon had a nice design. The preevolutions should go, though.

Reminder than XY where the best starting generations games and if you don´t see it you have brain damange

>>381606675
Not wanting to wait half an hour to actually play the game is ADD now?

>>381606913
>All new Pokemon have a 10% spawn rate or SOS exclusive
5%*

>>381606876
>hating on mantyke

>>381602957
>playing the Early Access version
lmaoing at your face right now.

>>381607004
SM were better than XY. And BW1 were better than both imo.

>>381606835
They're objectively the best. You're in a minority if you dislike the games. Time to accept that. A vocal minority will never change facts. Spamming on an anonymous image board doesn't suddenly make you the majority. It doesn't suddenly mean you have good taste. It means you're just shitposting with fellow autists who put too much stake into video games for children.

>>381606887
You literally cannot prove me wrong.

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>>381606675
>ask mommy to give you your adderall.

I know you're shitposting, but this was actually hilarious.

>>381593435
The game is really plot heavy but you're not suppost to take it seriously -exept that you are, exept that you're not because it's pokemon

I wonder how much of the story could have been solved if you could point out that Lusamines husband is on the beginner island

>>381607019
>30 minutes
But I've played through the game twice and it doesn't take that long? Maybe practice reading a little faster. And there is an option to speed up text.

>>381601106
>conveniently leaving out that every single trainer after Norman is powered up, not only gym leaders