ITT: Games you think are pure shit. The dark souls series.

I know this is bait but really, why do people whine about backtracking in games? There is literally nothing wrong with it.

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>>381565420
Nice bait mate, try to git gud

>>381565584
Some people have severe ADHD problems anon, they don't have the patience to go back a bit and move on.

>>381565584
Most time it's not exciting to walk through areas that you already know. Apart from that, I don't remember Dark Souls 1 having back tracking at all.

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>>381565584
>>381565590
EVERY.FUCKING.TIME.
You cannot criticize the souls series because everyone thinks it's a fucking bait. How about you finally admit that shitty JRPG is repetitive dull crap for just like every other japanese "videogame". I swear god, i had more fun playing/watching The Order 1886 for the second time.

>>381565584
>>381565590
How is this bait? Just because you disagree with something doesn't make it "bait".

I sort of agree, but I think souls is ok. It's basically ninja gaiden for retards with RPG elements tacked on. Decent game but not remarkable.

The persona series is one I really dislike. I forced myself to play 3 and 4 and they were really absolute trite tedious garbage. Hamfisted lame story (I don't care about stories in games since I'm a fighting game/shmup player), easy, recycled assets, very boring dungeons, and very simplistic mechanically.

>>381565420
Your favorite game

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>>381565420
Never played this but did play Bloodborne, after that never bothered with the series.

It's laughably easy, I couldn't believe my eyes when I realised a core game mechanic is to be able to summon 2 people to do anything remotely difficult for you whilst you sit back and watch, if you so please. However given that you can just run past almost every enemy without getting touched, there's no real need for this anyway.

I went in blind and platinumed it in 10 days, never having played a Souls game before.

>>381566169
>playing a game with heavy story despite not caring about stories in video games
Fuck you're an idiot

OFFICIAL SOULS GAMES RANKING FOR PEOPLE WITH ACTUAL TASTE
>hey, this is pretty good tier
DaS, Bloodborne
>no thanks, I'm good tier
DeS, DaS2, DaS3

>>381566026
This.

See:
>>381566183

> you must be baiting!!!!
> There's no way you couldn't like my favourite game of all time
> stop making me feel like less of a hardcore gamer!!!

The game doesn't even compare to early NES games in comparison.

>>381566183
>>381566354
Damn you autistic. I mean, c'mon dude.

>>381565590
See:

There is no getting good in the game, it's the most hand holding game I can remember coming across, under the guise of being some sort of L33T hardcore title.

>>381566447
I haven't posted this in about a month before yesterday.

Test

obvious bait thread but

>Enemies are sponges with high damage

this isn't even bait, it's just blatantly false

dark souls is probably the JRPG where enemies have the least HP

>>381566545
Still, you posted this before in literally every soulsborne thread. You need some help.

>>381566876
>Have the least HP
Have you even played it? No wait, you just answered that question with your shit comment.
>>381566447
>"I have nothing else to say bit i still want attention, better call him autistic"

>>381565420
It seems your shit. None of those things indicate a bad game. You seem impatient.

>>381566902
I don't think I do, now what?

>>381567341
enemies literally die in a few hits

did you not level up your weapon?

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>>381565420
>Depressing
lol'd out loud

>>381565420

I kind of agree... i don't think it's shit though because it looks pretty good and all but i don't see the appeal on constantly dying and timing dodges.

I kind of prefer a more Dragon's dogma approach to combat where you can climb enemies and have combos, actual skills and all that and i honestly don't care to prove i am the best hardcore gamer. I just want to have some fun on a dark fantasy world.

>>381567341
Confirmed for not playing the game. You can barely level your weapon up and still 2-3 shot everything in the first few areas. You have to literally go out of your way to make 99% of the enemies sponges.

>>381567472
Every one of those things indicate a bad game, that's why the majority of games don't have them.
My point still stands, you're better off playing any other game on hard.

How can a depressing & backtracking game that gives the player no enjoyment be good?

>"b-because it's challenging"
Better off playing Portal,The talos of princible or even chess.

When is someone going to come in with a real argument on why this game is good?

>>381566876
the entire OP is blatantly false, that's why it's a shitty bait. Oh wait, you can actually finish the game in an hour if you speedrun without DLCs.

>>381567559
>>381567797
Tutorial enemies don't count. I'm talking about 30 minutes into the game, when you actually start playing properly.
Very weak arguments guys, come on.

>i think the FIFA games are all rehashes of one original idea decades ago
git gud

>i think call of duty is casual, there is too little penalty for death and kills are too easy, meaning a worse player can by chance kill you
git gud

>i like civilization 4 better than civilization 6, i miss the sprawling empires
git gud

>flappy bird is a dull game that gets boring in 10 minute
git gud

>this post is a strawman
git gud

>>381567918
> Oh wait, you can actually finish the game in an hour if you speedrun
Exactly the game is overpriced shit that's constantly shilled by /v/.
It reminds me of a fancy cellphone game.

>>381568435
See
>>381566354
>>381566183

>>381568526
Did you know that you can finish Morrowind in a minute? Does that make the game low on content or unfinished? Neck yourself you retard

>>381567683
Exactly Dragon's dogma is a hardcore game with actual combat. None of this roll,attack,roll bullshit.

>>381568621
Why would you speedrun a game on your first play?
I've seen the videos on how to do it but why would you play a game like that if you haven't already finished or atleast completed the majority of a game?

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Face it souls fags, you fell for a meme and brought a shitty game.

>>381568820
That's exactly my point, what the fuck are you talking about? First playthrough of any dark souls takes at least 30 hours and yet OP is crying that you can finish it in an hours. Yes, you can, if you fucking speedrun it and know exactly what you're doing, skip 80% of content and probably use glitches to bypass said content.

>>381565420
>Backtracking
I don't think you ever have to backtrack in DaS3. I actually can't think of a single instance. I do like some backtracking though so that's more of a negative point for me.
DaS 1 has some backtracking due to the lack of early, universal bonfire warping but since it is also strongly interconnected with several unique routes it doesn't really have that much of a chance to wear on you.

>>381565954
Because it is bait. Most of these criticisms are generally untrue.

>>381568330
That's a pretty vague indication of progress (And game).

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there is rarely any good criticism about these games desu senpai
its not like someone can stop me from enjoying the game anyways

>>381568330
Okay, specifically which enemies are damage sponges? Particularly early game, after whatever arbitrary window you've established.

>>381568963
Except 20yr old Morrowind has more content than any souls game and if you didn't use glitches and try speedrunning you would still get more enjoyment and a longer game than DS.

That 80% of content you are talking about it is backtracking and doing the same repetitive shit.

>>381569274
Literally the only one where you backtrack at all is DS1 before you get lordvessel, you can teleport from the get go in both DS2 and 3. Fuck off with your not even disguised bait.

Sage this thread.

>>381569258
Not going to spoonfeed you the whole list, i would be naming 90% of enemies. undead are not sponges for one but they are just filler enemies to make the game seem longer.

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>>381569441
>"Shit i have no argument, better call it bait again and sage the thread so no ones see's how dumb i am"

You clearly try to speed run games, I try to get enjoyment out of them.

>>381569539
So you're not going to provide any actual examples, because that would compromise the vague hyperbolic nonsense you've established.

>>381567835
Backtracking isn't bad, nor is a game based on rolling striking and defending. Deaths in Dark Souls are easily avoidable through preparation and running from bonfire to bonfire. Enemies aren't sponges unless you are attacking someone out of your league (the running is the best option).

And any good game can be completed quickly if you know what to do - like Mario 64 or OOT.

Kill yourself.

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>>381566183
Are you guys so new you don't know he's mocking the "platinumed in 10 days" guy who autistically couldn't stop posting his feat as if he's good? which is now b8 pasta?
>>381566354
>>381566447
Newfags go.

Also, Bloodborne is a fantastic game, whether or not you think it's "easy".
And it really isn't.

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>>381569539
every enemy has a moveset and some are pretty clever and difficult to avoid, especially later in the game. and you can use most of them yourself after you get their weapon.

with heavy weapons in bloodborne and DS1, you can 2/3 shot most enemies if you are really so pissed off about them being a "damage sponge". what game do you play any way that has more interesting enemies than soulsborne

>>381569693
I answered your nonargument with an argument. You never proved that you need to backtrack and your statement is clearly false. I'm not even going to bother pointing out why all the other statements are also retarded because I have better things to do.

I never speedrun anything because it's too autistic for me and I currently have maybe 8 or 9 characters in DS3 with different builds and half of which farmed (not CE'd) at least some covenants.

Sage this fucking thread

>>381569742
http://darksouls.wiki.fextralife.com/Enemies
There you go. I knew i would have to spoon feed you.

>>381569762
Backtracking is the devs lazy way of making a game last longer. If you didn't have to backtrack in dark souls it could be completed in a hour WITHOUT(<-Read that part) trying to speedrun it.

>>381569946
Dragon's dogma has better combat.
Witcher3 is a better version of any souls game
Can't argue about the enemies not being interesting in Souls games so there's one good thing i guess.

I've spent countless hours on every soulsborne game with all their dlcs and op is right. Everygame is pretty much shit and overrated. Hitboxes and camera angles are shit at times, Everygame just has to have a poison-filled area you gotta trudge through, and only a hand full of the boss fights are even good. Lore is lit though.

>>381565420
I can only comment on Dark Souls 1 but
>>Enemies are sponges with high damage
That's completely false unless you've been using the broken hilt or no weapons at all for the entire game.
>>Constant back tracking
The game is connected enough where at least their are new shortcuts and paths that become availible as you progress through levels. So you are never in a level you've been in before for long. EX. The cage shortcut in Sen's.
>>Constant deaths which equals more backtracking
Git gud
>>Repetitive Roll,Attack,roll combat
Item variety is what spices up the combat. Unless you mean just the mechanics themselves in which case that's just subjective.
>>Depressing
Ok?
>>Game could be finished in a hour if you didn't have to backtrack so much
It still can practically.
>lazy devs who shilled the "Hardcore" meme so they could put out an unfinished game
I dunno much about this so sure.

>>381570176
If you have 8 or 9 characters then you very well know you have to backtrack, unless you're glitching through walls which might aswell be speed running.

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>repeating parts of a level because you died is backtracking

>>381570787
How about you tell me when, where and why you need to backtrack then?

Unless you mean >>381570889 in which case you're even more dumb than I thought.

>>381570514
Backtracking is essential to complex level design. A well designed castle, cave or fortress will have winding passageways, and secret corridors that connect. It indicates thought and design behind the level.

Games where you hold forward the entire fucking time like Uncharted or FFXIII are dogshit tier.

>>381570959
Start of the game, Middle of the game, end of the game.
How many times do i have to spoon feed you?
How about you keep your mouth closed, you will sound smarter that way

>>381571336
>How about you keep your mouth closed, you will sound smarter that way

For not responding to obvious bait, I agree.

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>>381570787
the only parts I remember backtracking is going to demon ruins after getting the lordvessel, returning to firelink shrine after defeating queelag, going to sif with the moonlight butterfly defeated already, and going to lower undead burg.
the first one is no problem if you explored and got to the daughter of chaos bonfire, for the second one you need the master key, the third one is short as fuck as well as the fourth time.
>>381571336
pic related

>>381571507
You're wasting your breath on b8, m8.

>>381571507
>going to sif with the moonlight butterfly defeated already

What?

>>381569869
It's me. These are my trophies.

Your favourite ever game was a stroll in the park for me, I platinumed it in 10 days.

My profile is Cloud_ffvii check my trophies for yourself and feel free to message me directly.

>>381565954
No, they think it's bait because your complaints are bullshit which only a casual retard would have.

Souls isn't so hardcoah XD which assuages all it's problems, but idiots like you that throw a shitfit when a game doesn't hold your little baby hands are worse than the people that mindlessly defend the game.

>>381571754
the way between undead parish and the forest bonfire
you gotta take that way if you want to defeat sif or the butterfly, and probably you are not going to defeat them both one after other your first playthrough

>>381571807
>Cloud_ffvii
weren't you the guy who got his ass kicked by the abhorrent beast in that webcam. you were also summoning all the time.

Witcher 3 is shit. Combat blows.

>>381569040
By "backtracking" he's normally bitching about needing to "backtrack" though areas he alread beat because he died like a bitch and got sent back.

>>381572035
I thought you meant there's something different in Sif depending on the Butterfly being alive or not.

If they gave Moonlight a few more moves, it and Sif together would be a cool gank boss.

>>381570514
>complain about damage sponges
>Dragon's Dogma has better combat
Nigger come the fuck on.

>>381572068
No I wasn't, how could you ever know if I summoned or not?

>>381565420

>unfinished

you mean low budget
there are many other subtle design methods which just spell cheap

for example, the loud footstep sound effects, its basically 40% of the games "immersion" which only cost a few hundred dollars to produce.
if you disable those annoying clopping sound effects it totally ruins the entire game.
literally - souls is held together by clopping sounds

>>381565584

lol you dont know shit

>>381572484
It's unfinished AND low budget.

>>381570710
>That's completely false unless you've been using the broken hilt or no weapons at all for the entire game.

no, that statement is completely true, minus only some low level enemies
are you high?
oh wait, you are just full of shit
the rest of your responses are equally stupid and not even worth responding too

....soulsbabies, everyone

>>381572484
Why are you acting like this is a bad thing? Isn't a project which uses it's money effectively to bring you a better product a good thing?

Or are you only interested in the latest corporate turd without any soul?

>>381573959
Which enemies are sponges, anon?
Because it's definitely not true. How desperate can you be that you need to try the "soulsbabbies everyone" like you pulled some amazing verbal destruction out when all you said amounted to "no u"? It only makes you look more clueless and full of yourself.

>>381565584
I don't hate it but I don't like when games are built around backtracking to autistic degrees. It's fucking annoying.

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>>381565420
>>Enemies are sponges with high damage
Not really. Only at higher new games. If anything they need buffed.
>>Constant back tracking
False
>>Constant deaths which equals more backtracking
Git gud. Learn from your mistakes.
>>Repetitive Roll,Attack,roll combat
Valid criticism I suppose but what games don't get repetitive after a while
>>Depressing
Opinion, not an argument
>>Game could be finished in a hour if you didn't have to backtrack so much
The games have gotten more linear each release. Plus there's warping. No argument.
>>lazy devs who shilled the "Hardcore" meme so they could put out an unfinished game
This was pushed by Namco which is the publisher not the dev

>>381575080
Bloodborne is one of the most overrated pieces of shit that I've even played, even if you just compare it to other souls shit games. I don't know why this place sucks it's dick so much.

>>381565420
i 100% agree
but you also forgot
>garbage ps2 tier graphics, physics (i.e. falling) and character animations
>clipping fucking everywhere
>shittest character creator where every single character looks fucking identical, literally tiger woods pga tour 2003 did it better

>>381573959
With the righ equipement you can make practically make bosses die in one hit. What enemies are you referring too specifically?

>INB4 ALL OF THEM
Just name one you dumb cunt. Should be easy if all of them are sponges.

Soulsfags are worse than Sonygg.ers.

>>381565420
>>Enemies are sponges with high damage
No, most enemies die in 2 or 3 hits.
>>Constant back tracking
Not on one of my 3 playthroughs.
>>Constant deaths which equals more backtracking
Don't be mad cause you're shit, also you can get to anywhere less than a minute if you're at the right bonfire.
>>Repetitive Roll,Attack,roll combat
FPS is repetitive drag your mouse cursor on the enemy and click combat. You can say this for anything.
>>Depressing
Go play some my little pony game then, what kind of critique is this?
>>Game could be finished in a hour if you didn't have to backtrack so much
Repeating a false statement isn't making your shit opinion any better.
>>lazy devs who shilled the "Hardcore" meme so they could put out an unfinished game
Nice assumptions.

I don't even like these games that much, but none these qualify as valid critiques.

>>381575356
http://darksouls.wiki.fextralife.com/Enemies

Spoon feeding you souls babies again.

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>>381575567
>Just name one you dumb cunt.
>Gives an entire wiki page for all of them.

>>381572458
>when I realised a core game mechanic is to be able to summon 2 people to do anything remotely difficult for you whilst you sit back and watch

>>381575567
>can't make his argument
>being laughed at by the whole thread
>I-I'm not going to spoonfeed you!

>>381575640
>"Want me to continue spoon feeding him"

Click the link and randomly click on any ememy, there's your answer.

INb4: you click on undead from the very start of the game.

>>381575951
Fuck it, just because I have nothing better to do, I'm going to go through everyone and cross out any that you can't kill in 3 hits max.

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>>381575769
I've made plenty of arguments but all i get is "hurr bait", "Just name one enemy for the 4th time" and shitty green text replies.

Give me one good counter argument kids, or will i have to spoon feed them to you?

Watch how all the souls babies reply to me saying "Kill urself" or "autism" they can't help it.

>>381576090
Yeah I'm sure you will....

>>381575951
Oh shit dude, you're right. I had no idea.
I just clicked on this enemy that appears in one of the final areas of the game and it really blows me away thinking about just how tanky he is
http://darksouls.wiki.fextralife.com/Skeleton+Baby

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>>381565420
>Enemies are sponges with high damage
Not true with the exceptions of Ringed City DLC and Dragon Butts.
>Constant back tracking
If you know what you're doing not really.
>Constant deaths which equals more backtracking
Same as above.
>Repetitive Roll,Attack,roll combat
Simplifying things, but what do you prefer? Time based?
>Depressing
Given.
>Game could be finished in a hour if you didn't have to backtrack so much
"Game could be finished so quickly if you didn't have to play the game!"
>lazy devs who shilled the "Hardcore" meme so they could put out an unfinished game
True. Dark Souls 1 and 3 would have been much better if they weren't rushed out the door.

>>381576187
Your argument: "all enemies are sponges".
The only counter argument here is "your observation is false".
Just look at the thread, everyone who took the time to reply to every single point OP made says the same thing, being that the spongy enemy point is false.
I love how you're using a witcher picture, because that game actually does have repetitive as fuck combat along with sponge enemies, but let's not move goalposts here shall we?

>>381571507
>returning to firelink shrine after defeating queelag

I'd argue that this isn't backtracking at all with how you're using a completely different route to get there, assuming you went with the usual path of going through the Depths to reach Blighttown and not the shortcut from the Master Key.

>>381576369
bone baby for a souls baby. Fuckin lol!

>>381576187
And you still haven't named one enemy damage sponge enemy in the entire game.
You don't get good counter arguments without making good arguments in the first place.


For the rest of your points, you've received plenty of comprehensive responses which you have completely and utterly ignored. Stop acting like an insecure child that can't accept opposing arguments.

>>381565420
I have felt this way about the souls series since the beginning OP. If not for the meme of "hurr im a hardcore gamer pro who plays dark souls" it wouldn't have the fame it does now. Fags think simple memorization of enemy attacks is great game design and requires "skill" LOL sure.

Wow it's almost like people have different tastes in games and there's no set objective good or bad for a game as long as it doesn't fucking crash every 2 min

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>>381576696
At least 5 of OP's 7 points are objective and have nothing to do with a difference in taste.

>>381576692
Why is it the people who think Dark Souls is shit are always the same sort of people who unironically use the word lol in 2017?

>>381576516
>No argument as per usual
>Trumps version of "i know, you know it, everyone knows it"
>Trying to change the subject to not look foolish

Still waiting for a argument...

>>381576942
Gee anon, I wonder why people dismiss your posts as bait?

>>381576854
Which 5? I see 2 in the combat honestly being quite repetitive when you break it down and the series having a depressive tone.

>>381576614
And he still wants me to spoon feed him the same comment i have left about 4 times now.
I have replied to every comment that has some thought put into it. Just take 5-10 minutes to come up with a counter argument, you are making a fool of yourself.

>>381576880
>ITS LITERALLY 2017 I MEAN C'MON!!!

Face it souls babies, the game is shit, any argument you have against mine is weak and pathetic and you have done nothing but show /v/ how stupid you are.

Still waiting for some good arguments.

>>381576942
>>No argument as per usual
Are you blind? I stated that you have absolutely 0 arguments, all you have is "i find that enemies are bullet sponges" which isn't an argument, it's an opinion. A false one at that.
And just because you're a special type of retard, I'll happily link all posts with valid arguments that you will ignore anyway because you'd lose this non-debate. Have fun:
>>381576395
>>381575493
>>381575080
>>381570710
>>381566876
There's plenty more posts that you choose to ignore.
>>Trumps version of "i know, you know it, everyone knows it"
Yes, this discussion requires politics.
>>Trying to change the subject to not look foolish
I literally stated to not change goalposts, but seeing as you typed this I clearly offended you. Hurray for me. Not too mention that your above "trump" quote is doing exactly that, hypocrisy at it's finest.

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>>381576269
Here it is asshole. Every enemy crossed out you can kill needing only 3 hits max. That's not even to mention that most of the other enemies only require maybe an extra 2 hits.

>>381577172
The 5 you didn't mention, maybe you could argue the repetitive combat is subjective as well, which still leaves 4.

>>381577409
wow that was some good points you made...oh wait you just linked me to someone elses posts.


>Enemies are sponges with high damage
>Constant back tracking
>Constant deaths which equals more backtracking
>Repetitive Roll,Attack,roll combat
>Depressing
>Game could be finished in a hour if you didn't have to backtrack so much
>lazy devs who shilled the "Hardcore" meme so they could put out an unfinished game

>>381577409
Take note that OP has not once referenced a specific detail of the games, be it an enemy or location, anything concrete. He never played the games and the bait is blatant at this point.

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>>381577263
>he unironically uses lol in 2017 and thinks people take him seriously
Man, I'm so glad we figured out who you are. Otherwise I'd just dismiss your posts for the blatant bait you are. But it's nice to know that you're actually so retarded that you're personally invested in this and think you're making "arguments". Just don't forget that literally everyone who sees you looks down on your pathetic existence.

>>381577617
One of those posts was a post I have made.
Even so, way to ignore all 5 of them just like I predicted you would.
You're finished bitchboy, get out.

>>381577564
Except that's wrong.
>"b-but if you have the great sword it isn't"
So you're just going to backtrack to kill the same enemies over and over again.

>>381577814
Not an argument.

>>381577814
Or if you just upgrade your starting weapon. Or use magic. Or use buffs. Or parry and riposte. Or backstab.

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Souls took off not because the games were good but because they were a breath of fresh air from what was common in the industry at the time. Typically melee combat was pretty floaty. You either had shit like Assassins Creed where everything is a glorified cutscene or you had shit like DMC where you could drop a 50 hit juggling combo on an enemy but none of your attacks really felt like they carried weight. Where as every button press you made in a Souls title fucking mattered and one slip up even against low level enemies could kill you

>>381577814
How far do you want to take this nigger? Need me to fucking record me killing every single one of those enemies in 3 or less hits with some random weapons in order to satisfy your lactose intolerant cunt?
Because if yes, it's up to you to do this first, showing that you absolutely cannot kill any of those enemies in 3 or less hits.
You're the one who claims this, so proof it.

>>381577690
There it is, i knew it would be "retarded" "autistic" or "kill yourself"
I mentioned how you would keep doing this like it's a good argument. This board is for adults kid, come back when you have hit puberty.
>>381577778
And i have proven you wrong countless times. Cya nerd i fuckin rekt you m8.
>"h-how did you prove me wrong? Spoon feed me info again like the child i am."

>>381565791
>I don't remember Dark Souls 1 having back tracking at all.
oh so you're a retard who's never played it before

>>381577814
>Its wrong because I say so!

I take the bait fuck it.
Why is this series so hated on /v/?
I see people in here bitching about EVERY aspect of these games but shit like Senran Kagura not only gets a pass but is being praised just for having anime titties.

>>381577650
I just wanna discuss souls man
I dont care about some retard baiters opinion, whats the worst that could happen anyways? shooting squad?

>>381565420
How?

>Enemies are sponges with high damage
Enemies either die in as few hits as you do or are used sparingly, I can't think of a single example where you're thrown against more than 2 enemies that take 3+ hits to kill at the same time.

>Constant back tracking
Not true at all, the first half of the game is full of shortcuts that either cut the travel time to a boss significantly or bring you out of the area to avoid having to backtrack, the second half lets you teleport all over the place.

>Constant deaths which equals more backtracking
Entirely dependent on the skill of the player.

>Game could be finished in a hour if you didn't have to backtrack so much
See the point about backtracking.

>lazy devs who shilled the "Hardcore" meme so they could put out an unfinished game
This has only ever been a marketing thing outside of some shit in 2 like the cheevo for your first death and the hags telling you you'll die over and over again.

>>381578276
Then make a regular souls thread instead of giving this retard the attention he so desperately craves.

>>381565584
>>381565590
Not OP but these are literal shit.
Nothing good about these games.

/v/ complains about the Arkham series just pressing X & Triangle to hit and dodge when all you do is press 2 buttons in this stupid series.

and I have beaten the souls games and their stories were so disinteresting.

>>381578274
I blame sonybros rubbing bloodborne on everyones faces and wannabe hardcore shitters that only play pvp

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>>381578207
>I knew my pathetic lack of ability to back up my points, idiotic mannerisms and rampant retardation would lead to people thinking I'm pathetic
>this makes me less pathetic
I'm not pretending it's an argument. You've received plenty of good arguments and ignored them. Others are STILL making good arguments against you. I'm just laughing at you because you amuse me you pathetic waste of human existence.

Can anyone tell me whats bad about ds3? I played all three and while i didnt like ds2 i think that there is nothing wrong with ds3...

>>381565954
Because the levels are fucking amazing.

>>381578207
>There it is
You use this as some kind of argument but completely ignore the fact that this guy here >>381577409 predicted you would ignore every single argument given cause it's convenient for you.
>I mentioned how you would keep doing this like it's a good argument. This board is for adults kid, come back when you have hit puberty.
You keep talking about others non-arguments and ignore their actual arguments.
Look, yet another person >>381578374 who disagrees with the fact that enemies are sponges.
And just because you're going to ignore this shit again, here is a blatant copy paste of his counter to that point: "Enemies either die in as few hits as you do or are used sparingly, I can't think of a single example where you're thrown against more than 2 enemies that take 3+ hits to kill at the same time."
>And i have proven you wrong countless times
You haven't proven anyone wrong once, you're just pretending cause it's convenient for you.

>>381577814
Disregarding the fact that any upgraded weapon will get the job done in the same fashion. Explain to me why
>"b-but if you have the great sword it isn't"
Is not completely true and negates your point about enemies being HP sponges? Especially since you can get one a few feet away from the starting location after the tutorial.

>>381565420
>plate armor
>katana
My jimmies are gone

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>>381566183
>It's laughably easy, I couldn't believe my eyes when I realised a core game mechanic is to be able to summon 2 people to do anything remotely difficult for you whilst you sit back and watch, if you so please.

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>>381578598
nice yuukos, got anymore?

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>>381575951

>replying to neogaf bitch

anon stop

>>381577814
I too enjoy attacking slimes with a normal slashing weapon! Why does this game have so many tanky enemies? What kind of idiot actually thinks about what weapon to use in an RPG?

>>381578274
It's not particularly niche and it's fairly popular on /v/. Bait is going to get plenty of replies by people who are knowledgeable and potentially invested in the subject thus yielding plenty of (you)s and since it isn't niche you don't run the risk of the fanbase ignoring you and turning it into a legit thread as there are enough threads for actual fans and flocking idiots keep bringing your bait to the forefront. It's even better if you never let an argument come to a close by being deliberately vague enough that none of your points can actually be refuted because you can just claim generic wrongness.

>>381578825
Not as bad as DS2 fags wearing full Havels with the Jester chest piece.

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>>381578882
Don't pretend like you don't have this folder just like everyone else. I wouldn't even be using it if it weren't my only source of smug anime reaction images right now.

>>381578598
> "you pathetic waste of human existence".
>Posts anime he has saved from his computer
......
>>381578690
They haven't bothered reading to countless comments above them proving them wrong.
Let me guess you need me to point them out for you. spoonfeed baby, grow up.

I've said every enemy apart from the starter undead are sponges. One guy pointed out how skeleton babies only need 1 hit. That's 1 compared to every other enemy. the large majority are sponges except for the filler enemys (started undead and babies)

>Constant backtracking.
"Yeah but only on this part, also this part and these other parts" is the counter argument i got for that.

>constantly dying
"Git gud" You get good within 30-40 minutes or less. The rest is predictable enemies. See a corner? there's an enemy behind it and one coming from behind you.

It's like I'm a broken record. I already proved my points in the OP.
>"nah you're just autistic and retarded, kill yourself"
That's the only counter argument i get from you children. Nothing worth replying to.

>>381566293
Switch 1 for 3, the former is outdated as fuck even if the latter is uninspiring in terms of fresh ideas.

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>>381579452
> One guy pointed out how skeleton babies only need 1 hit. That's 1 compared to every other enemy. the large majority are sponges
Except I posted this
>>381577564
And you're only response is
>No thats wrong lol.

>>381578814
Yeah because we all look up guides and weapon locations for games, speedrunner is that you?

>>381579085
>"hurr its bait" just like DS combat you're repetitive.

>>381579452
>ignores enemy bullet sponge argument yet again even though the guy friendly copypasted it for your non-existent reading ability to pick up on it
Here it is again, have fun ignoring shit for what I believe is the fourth time now:
"Enemies either die in as few hits as you do or are used sparingly, I can't think of a single example where you're thrown against more than 2 enemies that take 3+ hits to kill at the same time."
I have to copy the entire sentence for the second time now, and then you're surprised that we call you retarded.

>>381577564
Crystal Hollows are pretty spongy desu

>>381565584
>There is nothing wrong with repeating the same area over and over again

>>381579675
Wow another good argument, you keep repeating the same shit.
Not once have you proved me wrong. Go back to rotting on the couch and jerkin it to anime, loser.

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>>381579452
>>381571507
>>>381570787
>the first one is no problem if you explored and got to the daughter of chaos bonfire, for the second one you need the master key, the third one is short as fuck as well as the fourth time.
2 minutes at most of forced backtracking on the complete extension of the length

>Disliking /v/'s favorite game is automatically bait
You can't take criticism can you?

>>381579993
Nope, none of these babies can.

>>381579761
>Yeah because we all look up guides and weapon locations for games
It's just simple exploration. And it's not even in an obscure part, it's literally glowing on the ground.

>>381579824
They just barely managed to make the bar becasue you can still parry them. That one I'd probably change though anyways.

>>381579906
Because you haven't addressed it. All those enemies never exceed 500 and most don't even exceed 300 HP. Most weapons only need 3 hits to reach that number for damage output.

>>381580076
>babies
MOMMY HE CALLED US BABIES FOR LIKE THE TENTH TIME NOW, PUNISH HIM PLEASE, HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT WAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH.
At least, that is what you think is happening here, what's really happening is that you posted blatant lies, get proven wrong and then start complaining that it's just subjective taste.

>>381580152
I love how you stop responding to me everytime you have no way to counter any of my arguments, here are they, please make sure to respond to both these posts with proper argumentation.
>>381579813
>>381578060

>>381580320
Wrong guy anon.

>>381566293
DaS3 wasn't so bad. I liked it, even if it wasn't on level with DaS. DeS is also a good game.

>>381580320
Just name one enemy that isn't a sponge....

>>381565584
Backtracking in the right context is fine. Backtracking because you realized your game was 6 hours long and you needed to pad some time is bad

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>>381565420
They are pure shit, it's especially funny when the pvp spergs try to claim the pvp is on the level of a fighting game or something, that always cracks me up.
Delusional, delusional autists.

>>381580516
The Bat Demons in Anor Londo.

>>381580547
True, which is why souls "backtracking" is fine but halo backtracking is shit

>>381580205
this.

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Not getting any of my (You)'s, OP.

This game basically takes everything you find wrong with Call of Duty or the state of modern FPS, and manages to make it even less fun and more boring. Easily the least exciting game I played for free since Haze flopped

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Gothic and Risen, both games are buggy jokes with awful no depth combat, and people who like them are just trying to stick out with shitty unpopular opinions

>>381580628
So 3 out of how ever many enemies in this game.
Idiot.

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>>381580397
fug

>>381580516
Refer to this image >>381577564
But according to you "THATS WRONG".
So proof it then, you're the one claiming you can't, so go record some gameplay showing it is absolutely not possible to kill at least 50% of that list in 3 or less hits with a feasable build and weapon.
You're the one making a claim, I don't have to proof you shit.
And because you keep ignoring everything, here are three blatant random choices of said list: Wheel skeleton, Tree Lizard and the Cragspider.

>>381580601
>soulsbabbies thinking their game is deeper than a ball pit pen
LMAO

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>>381580843
>Just name one that isn't sponge
>Idiot, that's only one
HOLY SHIT MY SIDES

>>381580815
I shouldn't even be replying to such a shitty bait

>>381580601
>>381581013
lmao rofl xDDD!

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>>381581302
>its that one gothic fan on /v/
did you totally btfo any morrowind posters with your awesome logic and skill today yet my dude?

>>381581302
>"i disagree, therefor BAIT!"
>>381580891
>"SPOON FEED ME SOME MORE I CAN'T LOOK UP FACTS MYSELF"
Fucking babies.

>>381581648
Where do I need spoonfeeding? I named 3 enemies, you ignored an actual argument for the fifth time now.
You also ignored the image once again. You keep spamming the same "spoonfeed me" shit which doesn't mean anything. You once again provide zero proof to any of your claims.
You are nothing, stop.

>>381581860
Face it, DS is shit for all the reason i listed over 100 times. You just want to be spoonfed. Argument over loser, I win by a long shot.

>>381565954
>JRPG
nigga what. It's a fucking action rpg and has none of the elements present in a JRPG or WRPG. It barely is an rpg.

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>>381582534
dont go anon
tell me more bullshit so I can lose some more arguments please

>>381582534
I can literally copy paste the post you replied to and it would be a valid response to your shitpost.
You are not worth arguing with, you ignore every single counter argument presented to you and when asked to provide any source or substance to any of your claims you start crying over having to spoonfeed others, more hypocrisy, since you've used the word "baby" at least 10 times thus far.
Keep ignoring everything pushed in your face for the SIXTH fucking time, that's how pathetic you are. You ignore arguments and proceed to say others have none SIX times when we push your face right in them.

>>381581630
fucking saved thanks

>make a lot of progress
>finally make it to boss fight
>no bonfire so I can't cash in souls, refill estus, save the game, buy new equipment, or have a checkpoint close to the boss area
>fuck up once and die instantly because the boss does 8 gorillion damage per hit or combo locks you for like 10 minutes if you don't perfectly time your dodge
>have to fight every single enemy again just to make it back to the boss fight just to ATTEMPT to do it again because bonfires are so far apart, rather than just start at the beginning of the battle or at least relatively close by, like every other game
>fuck up once and die instantly
>repeat

Retards will defend this game design

>>381565420
>Constant deaths which equals more backtracking
you sound like a whiny faggit who cant get into what other people around you like so you bitch about it go play lol faggit and stick to what shitters are good at

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>>381578401
>and I have beaten the souls games
no you haven't

Dark souls sequels were a mistake
The first one, Demons Souls, and Bloodborne are great games
Miyasaki has stated time and time again that he likes to work on something everytime

>>381582903
I can't think of a single boss where there wasn't a bonfire in a very short distance.

Also, you don't have to fight every single enemy every time. Lrn2run

>>381582903
>there is actual penalty for dying and you can't just throw yourself at something endlessly until you get it
Yes, that sounds like something to defend.

>>381582951
They're shit games.
I honestly only enjoyed bloodborne.

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>>381583439
you've never played them

>>381583708
>Being this butthurt
>Because you know these games are shit

desu

>>381570514
>Witcher3
So an enemy switching from their bow to a sword, while blocking all incoming attacks as if their body was suddenly turned into steel is okay to you?

>the absolute state of soulsborne fans

Your games blow, especially the combat aspect.

>>381565420
Phil is that you?

>>381565420
You didn't prepare to die huh?