I've seen some disturbing trend of people on various forums

>>381559895
>if it's not a street fighter clone then it's not a fighting game
I'm fucking sick and tired of this shitty meme

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>>381559895

>>381559895
Ninjara has like zero ass

>>381559895
You're not wrong. Neo /v/ thinks smash is a fighter too. Brainlets.

>>381559895
>literally boxing with extendable arms
>not a fighting game
what?

Tekkenfag, is that you? It's been years since I've seen a argument focusing around "superior limbs based combat."

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>>381559895
i dont know man, what would you call it then?

It's a Battle game.

>Arms is a fighting game developed and published by Nintendo for the Nintendo Switch
>Genre(s): Fighting
What's so wrong about it being classified as such op? You know sub-genres are a thing right?

>>381560485
smash bros is also categorized as a fighting game despite being a platforming party game

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It is literally in every sense of the word a fighting game

>>381560485
Saying ARMS is a fighting game because there is fighting is like saying Call of Duty is a platformer because it has a jump button.

>>381560418
>>381560485
Wiki entries don't count, idiots write those.

And SF2 defined the fighting genre, when someone says they want to try a fighting game, they have a very specific idea in mind of what that is, and that's the style SF2 spawned. Sideview camera perspective, traditional arcade inputs, no stage hazards, etc.

>>381560375
ARMS is the most limb based combat around, even the title is a limb.

How is ARMS not a fighting game?

>>381560661
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>>381560653
Budokai Tenkaichi games are not fighters. Neither is Dissidia series. Neither is Virtua On or those shitty Gundamn games either. If the camera is like a third person shooter or action game, it automatically forfeits the right to be called a fighting game, period.

>>381560809
I was ready to call you stupid but that's not a bad way of looking at it really.

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>>381559895
>it is NOT a fighting game
but it is

>>381560730
The camera and controls and movement. A real 3d fighter example is Tekken 7, that is how a 3d fighter looks and controls.

>>381560701
>Sideview camera perspective, traditional arcade inputs, no stage hazards, etc.
>Tekken, Deadly Alliance,Bloody Roar,Rival schools are confirmed for oarty games.

>>381560850
Okay, I'll do it:
You're both stupid.

>>381560809
So is Smash Bros a fighting game?

>>381560864
>trusting game journalists

These same people also think witcher 3 is racist for not having black people in it and that a woman can have a penis. You trust their judgement of a genre?

>>381560701
>And SF2 defined the fighting genre
So, by that standard, SF1 does not count as a fighting game? Or neither do other older games like Yie Ar Kung Fu or Reikai Doushi despite clearly being fighting games? How does that make sense?

>>381560661
The main focus of Arms is to fight eachother. The main focus of COD is to shoot eachother.

>come to Subway
>ask sandwich artist to make me a Subway
>he makes simple sandwich
>"Woooow, who cares dude it's all bread and meat anyways stop being so autistic, that will be $29.99 plus tip"

>>381560809
Since you are set on limiting the definition of "fighting games" to the most common set of conventions rather than what it would linguistically suggest, how do you feel about limiting the definition of "racism" specifically to behaviours perpetrated against minorities?

>>381560963
If the camera is an important part of the game then it's not a fighting game, it's an action game.

>>381560701
>And SF2 defined the fighting genre
Yeah, okay dude.

>>381560809
Then what genre are they, genius?

>it's not a fighting game because I say so!
nice mental gymnatics

>>381560897
All the games you listed have sideview cameras though, traditional inputs, and no stage hazards. Ringouts are the only acceptable stage interaction, that and walls.

ok guys... for those people who insist, ARMS is not a fighting game, what genre would you give it then?

>>381561094
>no stage hazards
Then Armageddon isn't a fighting game?

>>381560984
Sure, is a style on how to make a fighting game which several other games use. I don't know why calling it that makes people so assblasted, call it platformer fighter if you don't want it to be associated with others more traditional.

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Its more of a fighting game than smash.

>>381561014
Those were prototypes of what the genre would become. Think of cars, the Model T defined what a car should be(mechanical vehicle using 4 wheels and a steering wheel), but designs before were still cars, just not perfected yet. Doesn't mean that if some guy in the future makes a "car" with no tires and no traditional steering wheel that it's a car.

Just dropping in to remind you guys that Soul Calibur is still the best fighting game series, have a nice day

>>381559895
It's as much a fighting game as smash, technically it isn't but who the fuck cares ?

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>>381559895
>muh fighting gems

>>381561075
Party genre. Same genre as heroes of the storm and league of legends.

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>/v/ and neogaf are the only ones who say it isn't a fighting game.

So, since this is a shit thread and OP is a faggot as usual,

What is your favorite character
Favorite ARM
Most hated

FOr me, i'm maining DNA Man with Double Dragons. Go full inflatable tube manand sway in the breeze.
And mechanica gives me the most trouble due to her hammer bullshit

>>381561370
Sounds like /v/ and neogaf are smart then.

>>381561031
Happens all the times. Parents go to sandwich shops, pay full price for a sandwich that is only Turkey and cheese and pay full price for it without batting an eye.
and we charge them full price because we are busy as fuck and they are wasting our fucking time with a sandwich they could be making themfuckingselves if they wanted a discount!

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You know what they say about parody and earnestness.

Imagine actually being this pedantic.

>>381560701
>Power Stone is now no longer a fighting game

>all these retards responding to this shit b8
fucking newfags i swear

>>381560701
>>381561470
>Injustice and MKX are not fighting games

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>>381559895
It's more of a fighting game than Smash

>>381560653
Yeah I was gonna say tenkaichi
It's also what the majority of licensed fighters are doing these days
Gundam vs
One piece
Jump stars
Even pokken is arguably similar style of fighter
People said the same shit when Toshinden and Tekken first came out

>>381561215
Not him, but that's true. What are you trying to say?

>>381561578
its summer after all

>>381560701
>when someone says they want to try a fighting game, they have a very specific idea in mind of what that is, and that's the style SF2 spawned.

Guess that's why this genre has been circling the drain for over a decade

>>381561734
Nigga you are pants on retarded, Mortal Kombat Armageddon isn't a fighting game now?

>>381561823
It's a party game.

>>381561054
Are you saying a fighting game has to be playable purely from sound cues or something?

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>>381561847
So world heroes is a party game since it had stage hazards?

>>381560292
>>381560418
>>381560485
>>381560653
>>381560730
>>381560864
The proper term is People's Brawler

>>381561715
No one ever said tekken wasn't a real fighting game, the fuck planet you live on?

>>381561260
>think of cars
>mechanical vehicle using 4 wheels and a steering wheel
Not really a good analogy. What about trucks? They share the same principle but have a number of differences, why can't that be a thing for different kind of fighting games as well?

>>381562003
You mean a Beat'em Up like Streets of Rage?

>>381561795
>circling the drain
>despite being more popular than ever and spawning more sequels

nigga you ond rugs

>>381562005
But Tekken isn't a real fighting game.

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>>381560418
I've actually seen people call it a third person shooter

>>381562039
Trucks have the same basic function as a car and control the same. This would be more like hovercars, which wouldn't be true cars due to controlling differently and the fact they fly instead of drive on a road, a requirement for a real car.

What was Street Fighter EX then?

>>381562001
I really don't get why you keep posting things when you know the answer. It just makes you look stupid.

>>381562203
I want to honestly believe this is bait but I'm on /v/
>>381562162
Are you fucking serious?

>>381560418
It's a smash 'em up beat down boxing scuffle brawler.

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>Esport babies angry that Nintendo yet again, makes a better, more fun and more competitive fighting game then their shitty SF or MvC.

>>381562183
>Trucks have the same basic function as a car and control the same.
Yeah, that's the point but in general are used for different things than regular cars.
Let's take Pokken. It has the basic premise of any fighting games and controls pretty much the same, does the third person view not make it a fighting game?

>>381559895
ARMS is my favorite fighting game though

>>381562265
>>378429149

You fight each other in it though.

You have to be autistic to actually try and argue semantics on whether a boxing game is a fighting game or not.

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>>381560653
Why can't character select screens have this much character in other fighting games?

>>381562629
Yeah but it seems boxing isn't fighting unless it's 2D.

>>381560701
Street Fighter is a subsection of fighting games. It's a 2d fighter. There are also 3d fighters like tekken or soul calibur. Then you have arms and smash Bros which are "brawlers" for lack of a better term. Regardless all these different subsections all fit under the genre of fighting games.

The game is a fighting game, and if your definition of fighting game is totally restricted to any traditional 2d fighter you are a retarded old nostalgia fag or worse, a faggot hipster who thinks he knows more than everyone else because he still plays games on his Neogeo.

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>>381561715
Why the fuck is it called Tenkaichi? That's clearly the first Budokai game, three games before the first Tenkaichi.

>>381560701
>no stage hazards
>Mortal Kombat isn't a fighting game
>SoulCalibur isn't a fighting game
captcha: arizona stop

>>381562003
That's a retarded name. I'll just refer to it as a fighting game. It's the same shit if you tried to say Halo is a shooter but Lost Planet isnt. No, they're both shooters. One is first person, the other is third person. Two different genres that fit into the main genre of shooter.

Fuck, you guys are starting to get worse than all these fucking EDM fags who fucking create a new genre label for every beat some guy makes in garage band.

BEST THEME COMING THROUGH

https://youtu.be/Irw3ezqQlQw

It was on Wendesday Night Fights, Alex "Shill" Valle confirmed it is indeed a fightan.

>>381563247
You mean you don't like Grungestep or Junglestep? Shit is fucking filthy

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>>381562486
>i love 2 gen old graphics and motion gimmick controls on a tablet
>n-nintendo wins again!

>>381559895

Is Tekken and SC not fighting games either then?

>>381565286
wow, look at this salty mofo.

>>381560418
Seriously bro? I'm with you but wikipedia calls both Starcraft and Clash of Clans strategy

>>381559895
It's a pseudo-fighting game
a game where you fight, but doesn't really share any similarities with other fighting games like Tekken

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Reminder that ARMS had stronger first week sales than Tekken 7 and SFV.

You can't deny it, /v/. Nintendo won again.

>>381564714
The fuck is junglestep? Lmfao. Is that like chopped and screwed songs from the Jungle Book?

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ARMS is as much of a fighting game as Japan's top fighting game series.

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>>381560701
Is Xenoblade not an RPG because it isn't Turn based like older RPGs? Is Metroid Prime not a Medtroidvania because its first person? Etc. Your line of reasoning is completely wrong. There is a blanket term for a genre and then there are denominations that separate them. ARMS and Street Fighter are both fighting games, but ARMS is a 3D fighter and Street Fighter is a 2D Arcade-style fighter.