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I've never played a Legend of Samus game before. I've

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I've never played a Legend of Samus game before. I've always wanted to play Super Metroid but it's expensive. Where do I start? Is there any connective story that would benefit from playing them all?
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play zero mission, it's a remake of the first

you can skip 2 and play super, nothing is really important in that game aside from the ending which connects the games. prime is its own thing and can be played whenever.
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>it's expensive
what are roms, my friend

start with super or zero mission

there's a timeline but it hardly matters
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>>381554787
Metroid Prime Trilogy > Super Metroid > Metroid Zero Mission > Metroid > Return of Samus > Fusion > Other M
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>>381555193
This is actually pretty accurate, I would almost put corruption on optional tho, but that's just me, also maybe mention the need of a physical map for the original metroid (or a guide)
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>>381555195
>what are roms
Lame. I have a snes and a nice Trinitron I want to play it properly.
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>>381555579
autism shouldn't stop you from playing one of the best games but sure w/e
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>>381554787
Start off with Zero Mission, then play Super Metroid, AM2R, Fusion and then onto the Prime games.
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>>381555701
I mean I'll get it but I wanted to play them in order or see here if it even matters. I just wanted one to play and get a taste for the series before dropping the money on super metroid. There's a method to the autism.
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>>381556003
>AM2R
Just looked it up and now I know what the new 3ds one is supposed to be. I'll wait for that.
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>>381556161
Why not play both? AM2R is fun and free.
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If you had to choose an order I'd say play Super first, then move onto Zero Mission and Fusion, then play AM2R or wait till september for the official remake of 2, get Trilogy and play the prime games in order, avoid Other M like the plague, and if you feel like wasting some money on side games get pinball and a used copy of fed force since it's not terrible but not worth 40 buck
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>>381556003
>>381556450
>shilling a free game this hard
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Don't completely dismiss Other M. The story is crap, but it is pretty fun to play.
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>>381554787
Start with Zero Mission. It's a remake of the first game and a good entry point to the series. It has all the basic components of what makes a good Metroid game and has enough handholding to guide new players in the right direction if they need it without telling them exactly what route to take. You could also start with the original Metroid if you're into punishing NES games, although be warned that you'll spend a lot of time tediously farming for energy/missiles unless you're immediately very good at the game.

If you want to follow the continuity then play Metroid II. It's also got a different structure to what the Metroid series is known for, rather than having an interconnected world that is "gated" by power-ups, you have to kill off a certain number of Metroids in an area before you can lower the lava/acid level and progress further. It is getting a remake this year so it may be worth waiting for that if you can't stomach the dated graphics and controls.

Next play Super Metroid. It's widely regarded as one of the greatest games of all time for good reason. Even if you skip Metroid II, definitely play this one (the prologue summarises the key events of Metroid 1 & 2 anyway).

After that, you could give Fusion a try. It's more story-heavy compared to other Metroid games but it's still solid.

The Prime series is also worth playing. These can be played any time after the first and the story is quite self contained. Obviously play 1, then 2, then 3. Hunters has a pretty mediocre single-player campaign and the multiplayer is officially dead since Nintendo killed their DS/Wii servers.

Other M's gameplay is okay at best and the story is awful. If you already have the means to play it then feel free to give it a try. Just don't expect much from it.

Federation Force is mediocre as well. Again, if you have the means to play it then give it a go if you don't mind spending the time/money on it.
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>>381555193
Move super and corruption down to optional, move Prime 1 to recommended, move Prime 2 to Must-Play and you've got the optimal list.
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>>381560732
>Super
>optional

What the fuck did you just fucking say to me, you little bitch?
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>>381559070
>but it is pretty fun to play
It's fun until you have to turn your wiimote around to aim in first person.
The game would've been a much more enjoyable experience, gameplay wise, if they allowed us to play with wiimote AND nunchuk.
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>>381560732
Super stays in must play. All the Prime games are recommended+, even corruption.
I do agree that Prime 2 is the best Prime game though.
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>>381560985
The floaty movement makes it difficult for me to tolerate. Additionally, the fact that shit like the quicksand in maridia actively punishes the player for exploring by forcing them to circle around the world again is inherently irksome to a newer player. Ergo, it's not a must-play initial recommendation.
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>>381555579
buy a flashcart then
stop buying games from jew merchants
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>>381561921
>I don't like it therefore it's optional
Most people consider it the pinnacle of the series for a reason. The controls aren't really floaty, they're just not as weighty as the GBA games. Unlike the GBA games, Samus actually has vertical momentum in Super Metroid. She also has more combat options with her charge beam combos. And the levels are completely designed around Samus's movement so the "floaty" movement is a non-issue. People who just take the games at face value generally prefer Zero Mission, but those who genuinely love the series almost always prefer Super Metroid.
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I just finished Metroid zero mission, is AM2R the next title I should play? I'm planning to play in chronological order.

Where does fusion takes place in sequence?
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>>381563882
yes 2/AM2R is set after zero mission. fusion is the very last game

it goes metroid/zero mission ->II ->super -> fusion

prime games are probably set somewhere between after zero mission and before super.
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>>381560732
>>381561921
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>>381564245
>AM2R
I'm really digging this, wonder how Nintendo's gonna top this off
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>>381555193
>Metroid Prime Pinball is a Pinball game

Well thanks for pointing THAT out.

You could have mentioned how it's a fucking GOOD pinball game, and that it does a bunch of shit well, and uses some unique ideas like shit walking over the board and has boss fights and neat nods to the series and shit. It's good for a pinball game. And pinball games are usually pretty great as is.
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>>381555193
>Primes are all in must or recommended
>trilogy is in optional
>"trilogy is best way to play primes"

Get this amateur shit out of here.
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>>381564757
who knows, AM2R is pretty much zero mission 2.0 while samus returns seems to be taking a whole new direction.
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>>381564757
>MercurySteam

They won't.
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>>381555193
You should add a bit about how Trilogy can be downloaded from the Wii U virtual console. Leaving that out and saying "these games are hard to get so don't count on it" feels kinda mean.
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>>381564757
Samus Returns is completely redesigning the maps, while AM2R was fairly faithful and ended having a fairly shitty map because the original game had a shitty map.
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>>381555193
>Telling people to play the garbage that is Hunters while telling people not to play Other M
>FedForce not on the chart despite being the link between Prime 3 and Prime 4
>Giving newcomers to the series half of the whole story.

You're a terrible individual.
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Super Metroid, Zero Mission, the Primes. Usually your favorite part of the games is the exploration so then move on to Symphony of the Night and indie games.
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>>381566297
That image was made a while ago, i.e a time where DS Wi-Fi was still functional (so Hunters wasn't completely shit), the Prime Trilogy wasn't on the Wii U eShop (so it was incredibly rare to find copies of it) and Federation Force didn't exist.
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>>381566513

Then it should stop being posted. It's misleading at this point.
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>>381566297
Hunters is far better than Other M even in its crippled form and FedForce is complete garbage so you may as well just watch the secret ending on youtube.
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>>381561921
>The floaty movement makes it difficult for me to tolerate
git good; Super's movement mechanics have more depth than any other game in the series and there's ample opportunity to use it all
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>>381567159

That's a terrible opinion and you should feel bad.
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>>381555193
>Hunters
>not a title to avoid
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>>381567594
Correct.
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>>381567701
Hunters was shit m8. I'd honestly rather play Other M over it.
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>>381567772

I'd kill for the opportunity to play Hunters online again, that shit was tight. Other M I don't even want to think about any more.
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>>381555234
The Prime series are just spin-off games. It's stupid to compare them to real Metroid games.
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Gods among men tier:

>Super Metroid
>Metroid Prime
>AM2R

Great tier:

>Metroid: zero Mission
>Metroid Prime 2
>Metroid: Pinball

Okay tier:

>Metroid: Fusion
>Prime 3
>Metroid
>Metroid 2

Disgusting Trash tier:

>Metroid: other M
>Metroid: Federation Force
>metroid Prime: Hunters

Unreleased, but will be trash tier:

>Metroid Prime 4
>Metroid 2: Samus Returns
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>>381568163
Fed Force is the best Prime game though.
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>>381567921
The only people who think this are muh atmospherefags who don't actually like Metroid games for the gameplay and just play it because it's a Nintendo series that isn't all colourful rainbows and shit. Other M has a shit story with mediocre gameplay. Hunters has shit gameplay, even the multiplayer was shit and only enjoyable because it was multiplayer (almost every game can be fun with friends).
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>>381568163
>trash tier
>prime 4 and samus returns

Sure, Jan.
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>>381568163
See:
>>381568121
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>>381568163
>AM2R being that high
If you have no idea what makes a good Metroid game then sure
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>>381568163
>Still sucking AM2R dick
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>>381568239
>nearly mandatory online co-op garbage

Nah, it's closer to Call of Duty if anything.

>>381568362
>>381568392
Hello Treehouse!
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Play Super first.

It's on VC for like ten dorrah.
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People latch onto and blindly defend AM2R in the same way that the baby Metroid latched onto Samus and defended her. It's quite poetic actually.
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>>381568253
>projecting
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>>381568447

Hello Prime kiddie.
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>>381568517

and yet you have no reason to actually hate it.
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>>381568719
What does liking AM2R have to do with liking Prime?
Surely you should be calling him a GBAbby instead.
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>>381568768

I don't think anybody hated AM2R but the flaws are glaring and obvious.
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>>381568768
>not sucking a game's dick means you hate it
AM2R was good, but it's by no means close to being the pinnacle of the series.
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Play in order:

Zero Mission > Super > Prime

Want more 2D? Fusion and either AM2R or wait for the 3DS one

Want more 3D? Prime 2 + 3

Want the roots? Play the original 2 but prepare for games that aged like milk

Avoid Other M.
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>>381554787
Why is the first Samus shooting cum?
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>>381569070

>Zero Mission > Super > Prime
This is stupid
Prime shouldn't be part of the sequence at all, it should simply be played at a random time after ZM
And AM2R should come before Super
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>>381569194

The list gives you the best entry point followed by the peak 2D and peak 3D. If you want more, there's more, if you don't then you've already played the best.
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>>381568885
>>381569021
It has flaws, but they're far from "glaring". The reason I give it so much praise is because it fixes so many problems inherently found in Metroid, while still remaining faithful to what made it good.

>actually challenging
>new game plus
>sequence breaks to be found
>intro cinematic is skippable
>all the disgusting, filthy sex fanservice is restricted to the ending, and only when you have 100% completion
>modifiers that allow you to make the game more challenging by changing enemy health and damage variables, and even letting you use harder AI
>hell run
>removing the mandatory lava wall that stops you from exploring further areas until you kill all the metroids

I could go on and on.
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>>381569435
Are some of these recent changes? I played AM2R when it first came out and this seems like bullshit.
>sequence breaks to be found
>removing the mandatory lava wall that stops you from exploring further areas until you kill all the metroids
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>>381569435
>removing the mandatory lava wall that stops you from exploring further areas until you kill all the metroids
The entire purpose of Metroid II is to eradicate all Metroids, you shouldn't be able to skip that. In Zero Mission and Super, your mission is to kill the space pirate commanders and Mother Brain. You can skip other mini-bosses but those remain mandatory (even if you can beat most of the in any order).

AM2R is great for people that don't actually like the original Metroid II.
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>>381570042
>AM2R is great for people that don't actually like the original Metroid II
...and also believe ZM is the peak of Metroid.
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>>381554787
>Where do I start? Is there any connective story that would benefit from playing them all?

No. There's a chronology sure, but it doesn't amount to anything and the few games that are story driven are contained.

Start with super and ideally play in release order. If you like the series try metroid 1 and 2 to see what they are like.

>I've always wanted to play Super Metroid but it's expensive.

Emulate it.
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>>381569582
It's some of the fan patches made by people who followed Dr. M's work. 1.2.9 is the most recent. You can find the most recent update on plebbit.

>>381570042
>AM2R is great for people that don't actually like the original Metroid II.
Well, it wasn't called the black sheep of the series for nothing.
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>>381570480
Could you go into more detail then?
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>Legend of Samus
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>>381555015
>it's a remake of the first

People need to stop saying this, it has nothing in common with the first game except samus and the same genre. I bet 90% of the people who say that shit haven't played more than 5 minutes of the original.
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>>381555579
>>381562018

This
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>>381570640
What's the point of doing a remake if you keep everything the same? Yes ZM changes shit, that's why it's not pointless.
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>>381570640
Remake is generally a catch-all term that refers to remasters and reimaginings (the latter being what Zero Mission actually is).
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>>381570586

I could go into more detail, but I think it would be easier to give you a changelog of everything that's happened in the patches so far. Let me pastebin it for you.

https://pastebin.com/iERJxKX5

And if you want to try it out, I was actually wrong. The update is up to 1.2.10. Just google that and you'll find it.
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>>381571113

I'll have to givve it a shot some time.
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>>381562018
This. You don't even need a $200 kike cart, the chink shit gets the job done
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>>381571216

I believe there's also one more update coming, where you can damage the metroids with your basic beam weapon, but if I'm correct, they said the beam has to be charged, and it won't do alot of damage, but it's mostly there for people who don't have alot of missiles. I'm cautiously optimistic.
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>>381554787
Super > Fusion > Zero Mission > AM2R > Samus Returns

Prime 1 > 2 > 3
Always play in release order.
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>>381568121
This
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>>381570749
What are you even talking about? It's you guys who are calling it a remake when it's not. It's you who tell people to play zero mission over the original as if zero mission was a straight modernization or upgrade when they in fact are COMPLETELY different experiences. People should start with super if they can't handle the original, not the piss easy joke game that is zero mission. Feels less like proper 2D metroid than fucking prime.
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>>381554787
Metroid NES/Zero Mission
Metroid II Return of Samus/Samus Returns
Super Metroid
Metroid Fusion
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>>381571521
>it's not a remake if it's not a port
whatever m8, go learn what words mean
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>>381568121

So hardcore.

They're still "real" Metroid games, you're using that word in a way that's meaningless. What you mean is they are 3D Metroid games.
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>>381571731
You can't even form a coherent sentence nor argument. Stop being an underage plebbit newfag and go play the original instead.
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>>381568121
Are you, as they might say, a fucking retard?
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>>381571956
>You don't prefer [game] because you didn't play it
Who's lacking an argument?
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>>381571521
>People should start with super if they can't handle the original, not the piss easy joke game that is zero mission. Feels less like proper 2D metroid than fucking prime.

zero is harder than super

Also theres a hard mode unlocked on 2nd playthrough. If OP likes a challenge grab a complete save file
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>>381571464
wtf? i love hope now
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>>381571464
>Release order also happens to be the order of quality
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>>381555193

Someone needs to update this to point out Trilogy is all the Wii-U eShop.
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>>381554787
Play Zero Mission, then Super, then Fusion. After that just play the Prime Trilogy in order.
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>>381571739
>>381572032
>They're still "real" Metroid games
Not him but no they're not, It's like comparing Halo to Halo Wars. The series may have art style, music and weapon, and abilities to the main series but it's a completely different genre, just because you like the main series doesn't automatically mean you are going to like the spin offs too. You Metroid fans need to get over that.
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>>381573679
It's funny, you never see this kind of talk when discussing 2D and 3D Zelda games even though they're completely analogous.
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>>381573331
Super and AM2R are the best Metroid games.
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>>381574029

AM2R is worse than ZM, Fusion, Prime 1 and Prime 2. And Super, of course.
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>>381574185
Nope.
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>>381573827
When people are ranking their favourite Zelda games, they usually rank the 3D and 2D games separately for the same reason. It's the same situation with 2D and 3D Mario.
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>>381573827
Maybe because 2D and 3D Zelda games have the same producer and are made by the same team, everything transfer over fine between 2D and 3D Zelda, that isn't the case with Metroid.
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>>381574392

Yet people never regard them as different series and claim that fans of one style are not fans of the other.

>>381574435

2D Metroid games weren't all made by the same team m8.
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>>381565623
The list was made before the Trilogy was put on the eShop.
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Spinoff is perhaps a bit too harsh but I think it's fair to seperate original 2d metroid from Prime Metroid (and I guess you would include other M as some kinda bastadised version of both but which is clearly continuation of 2d rather than prime).
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>>381554787
>Where do I start?
ZERO MISSION
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>>381554787
Shouldn't Other M be on the top? I mean it's styled after the 2D games.
Either that, or it should be in it's own category. It doesn't really go with the Prime style of games.
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>>381576086

Other M is insulting to everyone equally.
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>>381576267
I know, but the image is clearly structured to showcase the two different styles of Metroid, but Other M doesn't really fit well with either group.
It also needs to be updated to include FUCKING SOCCER and Samus Returns.
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>>381574902
>2D Metroid games weren't all made by the same team m8.
But for the most part they all have one thing in common, Sakamoto. Metroid II joins that family this September. The Prime games don't have Sakamoto and are designed differently.
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>>381576435
Sakamoto was what happened to Other M - I don't think it's exactly a good thing.
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>>381576534
Sakamoto admitted he fucked up with Other M.
This makes me cautiously optimistic.
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>>381555193
I will play other m first
fans tend to compare new games with the first ones instead of analyzing the game itself
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>>381576689
>I will play other m first
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>>381576689
This has to be bait
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>>381576882
He has a point, though. If it's a legitimate post, he has no idea what he's walking into. Let him do it.
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>>381576689
never has this been so relevant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y-hfG-6OFA
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>>381555579
Import the Japanese version. It has English
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>>381565047
its optional because a physical copy is hard to find. i imagine this was made before trilogy was put on wii u eshop
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>>381576534
Sakamoto stated he fucked up with Other M so we can just act like it never happened.
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>>381576689
What's wrong with you?!
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>>381576689
I did the same, no regrets
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>>381576689
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prime 2 is literally the best game in the trilogy
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>>381578190
Prime 1 was better
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>>381578190
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>>381578190
Prime 1 had best atmosphere
Prime 2 had the best gameplay
Prime 3 had the best locations
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>>381579172
Prime 1 had the best level design
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>>381579172
2 had best atmosphere
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Play Zero, then Samus Returns this fall.

Understand Super while great is totally over rated, and clunky as hell if didn't grow up playing SNES games

Prime trilogy is all around solid, and the third game is still great if not as good as first two
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>>381578338
Nah. I'd say Prime 1 was certainly a great game; but, Prime 2's slightly greater difficulty and the way that its design seamlessly made everything connect in such a way that the world felt believable as a complete entity rather than a collection of levels sets it above 1. It's just a more immersive experience, even in spite of the backtracking.
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>>381579172

"AMMO"
for basic energy beams

best gameplay

>MY SIDES
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>>381579567

what a load of bollocks, Prime 2's world is completely segregated and "video gamey". We go over this every thread.
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>>381579594
>Needing infinite shots to get the job done when the game throws ammo at you left and right.
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>>381579448
git gud

>>381579594
>literally too dumb to shoot any of the dozens of containers in each room
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>>381554787
Start with Super, then do Zero Mission, and then Prime. You'll get the core Metroid experience from those. Super and Prime are my favorites.

After that I'd recommend trying the original NES Metroid. Gives you some perspective on the history of the franchise, and prepares you for some of the more unforgiving games in the Metroidvania style. If you'd prefer to tackle the games in chronological order, that would be good too, but I think starting with Super is the best route.

I also really like Prime 2, but don't touch it unless you enjoyed Prime a lot.
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>>381579710
It's segmented; sure. But, the point I'm getting at is that the game does a good job of avoiding the sort of jarring transitions between locales that prime 1 contends with by having each area be more logically placed within the context of the world.
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>>381580075

Bullshit. How are the areas in Prime 2 any logically placed than the ones in Prime 1?
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>>381581063
The zones feel more like ecosystems, with the exception of the city one. For Prime 1, it's a little weird going from Tallon IV to Ruins to Phendrana. In Prime 2, it makes a little more sense going from Badlands/Desert to Bog. The planet feels more like a planet and less like a video game
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>>381581335

>it's a little weird going from Tallon IV to Ruins to Phendrana.
You don't go from Ruins to Phendrana. You go from Ruins to a transitional area, filled with steam pipes and patchwork mechanisms before entering the actual lava caves of Magmoor. Metroid Prime is full of these gradual transitions which are completely absent from Prime 2.
>In Prime 2, it makes a little more sense going from Badlands/Desert to Bog.
You go from the driest region to wettest region without any gradation at all.
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>>381581335
You're talking elevators.
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>>381581761
you're right, my bad. you go from lava chambers to snowy tundras. How is that better? or lava chambers to Tallon IV
>>381581793
elevators in both games. not really a point to be made about em
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>>381581335
I felt this way too desu, it always annoyed me that elevators in Prime 1 made it seem like the areas were stacked on top of each other, whereas in Prime 2 it's obvious that Temple Grounds is high up and then the elevators all go down (or up in the case of Sanctuary) to the different areas with a little bit of overlap between them.

Sure it's not perfect but it gave the planet a more logical mental map as a whole.
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>>381565047
This list is ancient and was made when the only way to get a new copy of Trilogy was shell out 100 bucks on ebay.

It really needs to get updated.
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>>381582045

>you go from lava chambers to snowy tundras.
The front entrance to Phendrana is the worst case, i agree. Even in this case though there is the continuity of passing through a cave system. The back entrance is another good example of continuity within the world though, because it connects all of the Pirate installations on Tallon IV together.

>or lava chambers to Tallon IV
You descend about 50 metres and then pass through a steaming cavern before you actually reach the lava-filled rooms. Like I said, there's gradation.

>>381582209

Prime 1 just takes longer to reveal its true colours. Once you realize the entire game actually circles around the Impact Crater without ever seeming like it was artificially constructed that way you start to realize how good Prime 1's world design was.
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>>381581761
Echoes does have the excuse that the Ing seriously fucked up the landscape during their invasion.

Agon Wastes was initially plains, with Torvus Bog being a forest. The prior got scorched and the latter got flooded by the nearby ocean.
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>>381582330
It also needs to add some of the better Super Metroid hacks.
If AM2R is allowed to go on there, the likes of Hyper Metroid should also be allowed.
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The only areas from 2 I remember were the Bog and the Sanctuary Fortress. I remember every one of Prime's locations
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>>381582640

Biomes shouldn't stop as soon as you get to an elevator, even in cases like that.
For example, consider the Agon to Torvus elevator. All it would take would be a bit of running water in the vicinity of that elevator and it would do wonders for enforcing the idea that the two areas really are connected.
Prime 1 is absolutely full of these little details between area transitions.
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>>381582837
What are some of the better fan projects besides AM2R and Hyper Metroid?

Redesign usually gets cited but I don't care for it at all. Haven't tried Eris, Super Zero Mission or Rogue Dawn yet.
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>>381555193
>fusion not in must play titles
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>>381570640

You have no idea what the word "remake" means and you need to stop being a bitch about this.
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>>381583130
I think the part of Prime 1's world that makes it feel a lot weaker than it really is is Magmoor Caverns.

Chozo Ruins, Phendrana, Crashed Frigate and Phazon Mines are all pretty standard videogame level archetypes but flow into each other well and are designed in a way that makes them feel actually lived in. You treck through temples, abandoned cities, pirate facilities, and the elevators that bring you from one to the other are all places in sensible locations that give you a clear picture of how the world is laid out.

And then you have this massive generic lava corridor cutting the map in half with nothing in it that feels half-finished, as if they were going down a checklist and realized they didn't have a fire level yet. The worst transitions in the game are tied to it too, like the one leading into Phendrana and how Phazon Mines connects to the distant corner of it instead of the area the pirates actually built a base.
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>>381555193
>>381577405
>physical
>buy
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>>381583802
>and how Phazon Mines connects to the distant corner of it instead of the area the pirates actually built a base.
This is completely wrong though. You take one lift from Phazon Mines to reach the Magma Workstation (which contains flying pirates), and then the next room is a lift to Phendrana Drifts. The part of Phendrana Drifts which contains a pirate base.
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>>381584284
I was referring to how the giant space pirate research tower that's the centerpiece of the whole area is a mile away from that section with nothing but untouched caverns and hostile wildlife in-between, when in every other region of the game their operations are centralized in one part of the map to make it cohesive.

I've read that a huge section of Magmoor Caverns was cut due to time restrictions and if that's true it shows.
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>>381576689
The game was analyzed for itself. The gameplay is mediocre, the Metroidvania aspects are lacking to nonexistent, the game is linear, and the story is a convoluted mess that will put you to sleep. It's a bad game that's made even worse when you compare it to the rest of its series.

Nice bait, enjoy your (you)
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>>381584591

You mean the one that's just in front of the Phendrana entrance? Yeah, that's the only discontinuity in the Space Pirates' territory. Everything from Phendrana to Phazon mines and even the crashed Frigate is completely connected.

I generally think Magmoor Caverns is a superior in-between zone than swampy Brinstar as far as level design goes though.
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>>381584786
>I generally think Magmoor Caverns is a superior in-between zone than swampy Brinstar as far as level design goes though.
Actually, let me modify that. It's superior as far as world design and connectivity is concerned - the actual level design is superior in swamy Brinstair, although that may purely be because Red Tower is my favourite room in the whole game.
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More other m shills in this thread figures you guys won't leave it be
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>>381583140
If you're talking about the original Redesign, try Axeil Edition. It fixes most if not all of the original's flaws.
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>>381585008
Swampy Brinstar transitions brilliantly into Maridia, the NES Brinstar and the first sections of Norfair.

It's a very stark contrast from Crateria but that's kind of intentional for the sake of wow factor. Nothing like that had appeared in a Metroid game up into that point since the older titles were just black rooms of rocks, bubbles and lava.
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>>381585008
Oh boy it's the webm dumping guy.
I love some of those webms.
Like Outset Sanctuary. Holy shit I spit out my drink laughing.
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>>381583140
Quite frankly, all those hacks have issues. I would even argue Hyper Metroid also has issues.
AM2R just.. doesn't.
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>>381586346

I'm not sure about Norfair, but yeah you're basically right. I just think it's kinda boring going back and forth through that place all the time.
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>>381554787
If you're going to play Metroid 2 be warned that shit doesn't have a map and you're going to get confused as fuck without one.

It's the only one I've played
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>>381586869

It's actually fairly easy to keep track of what you're doing in Metroid II since you clear each area one at a time and they're each rather small.
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>>381585056
Could it be?
ACfag?
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>>381587037
Does she take the knot?
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>>381586745
The first couple of rooms use a red and purple rock tileset that's pretty similar to the colors used in the red soil area before going 100% superheated fire level, so I'd argue it's effective.

You get the sense that you've deeper in the same caverns and it leaves you wondering about what Norfair's quirk is going to be, only to strike you hard when you through the door and start burning alive.
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>>381587037
F-List sluts are a dime a dozen.
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>>381586939
I got really confused only in area 3 so far because it's got some weird shit in it and I'm making my way through 4 so yeah I'm retarded.
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>>381586939
Not that anon but Area 3 gave me a lot of problems the other day when I replayed it.

Maybe it's just me but it feels a lot more expansive than the others and has a couple Metroids hidden away in weird locations.
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>>381586387
That post isn't mine, actually, I've only been lurking this thread so far. But when I saw this, I wanted to say I'm happy you liked my dump the other day.
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>>381587284
>>381587348

Well, that can't be a coincidence.
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>>381587101
Of course. Usually she has their children too. A weird quirk of Chozo DNA makes her extra fertile with furries.

>>381587169
Yes but I am a talented slut.
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>>381587001
I believe it is.
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>>381560732
Please accept this (You)
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As someone who goes back and forth between which they prefer in Prime 1 or Prime 2. I think they are equally great. Prime 1 is aa far more relaxing game to play, and something I can blast through a couple days. It also has the best music of the trilogy.I can pick it up anytime and play it anytime. Prime 2 is more engrossing and the atmosphere is more unsettling in a good way. The bosses here are the best in the series. But it's not a game I play through as much as the first.
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>>381579172
Prime 1 best gameplay
Prime 2 best atmosphere
Prime 3 best graphics
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>>381564960
yea but who gives a fuck

go make a list about good pinball games nobody cares how good it is on a list about metroid games. it being a pinball game is enough to know. cuz nobody is going to go back and play that unless they're a pinball fanatic.
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>>381588512
Prime 1 and Echoes kind of have a Metroid 1 versus Metroid 2 rivalry to me. They're both great at different things and weaker where the other excels, so they're better as a duology than individual packages.

And Corruption I'd compare to Fusion if anything.
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>>381573331
Echoes is better than Prime 1. In fact, Echoes is the best Metroid game.
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>>381570640
It didn't take much to trigger your autism
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>>381586387
>>381587387
Let these posts be proof that not everyone on 4chan is a condescending faggot.
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>>381577127
This made me feel things deep inside of me
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>>381568163
christ you're a retard.
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>>381570640
>being this stupid
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>>381589093
>tfw you felt you were the only one who like Prime 2 over 1 because everyone was shitting on Prime 2

Its nice to see it's getting it's props now.
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>>381568163
>including a fangame
You missed the 100 or so Metroid and Super Metroid hacks there, buddy. If you're gonna include AM2R, you have to include those.
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>>381589093

The world design of Echoes sucks, and its backtracking is the most painful and arbitrary in the whole series. The difficulty curve is fucked and half the game's art is completely drab and uninteresting.

The bosses are much better than Prime 1, along with the combat in general. The lore is also a bit better. The rest is worse.
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>>381570640
>it has nothing in common
>zero mission takes place on Zebes like original
>you fight Ridley, Kraid, and Mother Brain like original
You're retarded
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Actually just started playing super metroid yesterday for the first time ever. It's pretty cool so far, tough to find all the little areas to go to. I have the shotgun beam and the ice beam. I also got the suit that lets me go in the poison rooms and super jump/charge. I killed the 2 story lizard guy and i'm not sure where to go next but I've been having a good time exploring all the rooms.
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>>381590208
>this entire post
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am I the only person that hates the prime games with a passion?
they're so shit compared to the metroidvania titles, mainly because of how god awful controlling an fps is on a gc controller
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>>381590670
You don't know what metroidvania means.
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>>381590831
>I preffer a to b
>you don't know what a is

Uhh?
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>>381591098
Metroidvania describes world design. It has nothing to do with being a platformer. The Prime games are all Metroidvanias
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>>381588512
MOTHERFUCKING QUADRAXIS IS BEST BOSS
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>>381591223
No. They're Metroid games. Only Castlevania games can be metroidvania.

Although really, I'd only say Prime 1 stays true to the Metroid style of map. Prime 2 is a wheel with spokes and Prime 3 is just a bunch of isolated corridors.
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>>381570640
Metroid I is shit
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>>381591223
I can see how you can make the case but they're so different in how they play from every other 'classic' 2d metroidvania that I'd hesitate to classify them the same
And I definitely consider the 2d platformer movement an essential part of metroidvania
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>>381591492
You literally just said the 2D Metroid games are Metroidvanias. And Metroidvania can describe more than just SotN styled Castlevanias.
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>>381568302
Marcia Marcia Marcia
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>>381591492

>No. They're Metroid games. Only Castlevania games can be metroidvania.
People commonly use Metroidvania to describe either the genre or the subseries. It's generally pretty clear from context which they mean until people like you start being petulant.

Priime 1 stays true to the Super Metroid style of world construction and it's pretty hard to deny it has the map design of a metroidvania.
Prime 2 resembles Fusion more closely. Whether you consider those games Metroidvanias or not is more questionable.
By Prime 3 it's only a Metroidvania by the laxest definition.

>>381591765
Metroidvania isn't a genre of its own, it's a modifier that describes the way the game is structured. Super Metroid is a
You see various other games like Dark Souls being called Metroidvanias because their map design follows the same scheme, but their primary genre is clearly different.

What I'm getting at is that nobody uses Metroidvania to specifically mean 2D platformers with branching semi-non-linear map design. They either mean any game with branching semi-non-linear map design or the specific subset of Castlevania games with branching semi-non-linear map design.
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>>381592473
>Super Metroid is a 2D platformer with shooting elements, but it's obviously different from Contra because of the way the pieces fit together. That makes it additionally a Metroidvania
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>>381591875
wasn't me, post above you was
also, not to nit-pick but I nit-picked and found more people agree
from the metroidvania wikipedia entry
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>>381592473
Basically our disagreement comes from if 2d is a requirement to classify something as a metroidvania because I agree that there are 3D games that utilize a similar map exploration system but I wouldn't consider metroidvanias
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>>381592894

Pretty much. There are plenty of games which aren't 2D platformers which I would gladly categorize as Metroidvanias because they implement the innovations in map design that were popularized by Super Metroid and SotN.

If you simply said "They're so shit compared to the 2D titles" I wouldn't have gone on this autistic rant. Good or bad, they're definitely Metroidvanias to me.
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Where do you guys get Nintendo roms now that Emuparadise doesn't have them? I want to play Super Metroid.
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>>381594158
https://www.loveroms.com/download/super-nintendo/super-metroid-ju-/12769
just skip when it wants you to donwload an extension
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>>381594158
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>>381594764
Shit, forgot to include a tab that says to uncheck the box.
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>>381570626
This
>Legend of Samus
what the fuck
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>>381586287
I'm running Axeil now. So far have been roaming Brinstar and Crateria. The enemy changes and quality of life stuff is excellent so far but i cant help but feel the maps err on the side of being too expansive...
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>>381595065
It's a bit confusing, I know. It turns out the guy you play as is actually named Metroid, not Samus. Samus is the girl you gotta rescue.
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>>381555579
Get a Wii and buy Super Metroid for $8 (is the Wii Shop Channel even still available?) or softmod it and get it for free. You'll still get a quality Trinitron experience.
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>>381596530
>the dark echo is slightly delayed on the flip just like a real echo is the delayed playback of sound

pure kino
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>>381585008
>>381590208
Also fuck this room, i figured I need to wall jump to get up there but I cant do it, had to drop down.
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>>381589484
AM2R is a standalone game built from the ground up. Romhacks are a whole other category. But if you must, just play SM Redesign.
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>>381597828
just wait to get the ice beam if you can't walljump
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>>381555193
>metroid prime pinball is a pinball game
gets a chuckle out of me every time desu
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>>381597953
Yeah I just got that, going to head back now. I like how the game lets you skip shit if you're good, that's something more games should do.
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>>381596630
mate
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>>381555195
>what are roms, my friend
Apart from the Prime games I cannot for the life of me find any other Metroid Roms.
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>>381598710
>>381594764
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>>381560732
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>>381588871
>yea but who gives a fuck
That's a great excuse for making a list without information in it. Why list the game if you're not gonna talk about it or give a reason why you should play it.

>go make a list about good pinball games nobody cares how good it is on a list about metroid games. it being a pinball game is enough to know.
No, it being a pinball table is listed in the fucking title. If you're going to write a comment on it write a piece of fucking information, that isn't in the title.

>cuz nobody is going to go back and play that unless they're a pinball fanatic.
Or y'know, people that like metroid and are willing to try a pinball game to see what it brings over from the metroid side of things.
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>>381555193
Needs AM2R
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>>381594764
>>381599803
Thanks but Loveroms seems super unsafe.
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>>381602197
Then don't use loveroms.
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>>381602530
Then why post a picture with only unsafe sites on it? What the fuck is the point?
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>>381602903
Because one of those works flawlessly for me. I even pointed out which one.
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Im replaying Metroid Prime 3 and I'm loathing the controls. I loved how it worked back then but I find the wiimote's tech has fallen behind a lot. Either that or it's not working as good as it did before.
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>>381603708
The same shit happened to me a month ago, it's been so long since I played Prime 3 so I decided to replay it but holy shit I had to drop it partially due to the controls.
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>the Ing are the primary antagonists of the game
>no lore entires
Anyone else really damn confused about this? Like, did they run out of time, or could they just not come up with anything for them? What gives?
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>>381604825
That and the god awful resolution. It's actually difficult for me to see shit. It's too bad because otherwise the game's pretty fun, the worlds you visit are jawdropping and the music is godly.
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>>381555193
jesus the newfags replying to this. The chart isn't even that old, it was made in like 2012/2013 and everyone is bitching about the tiniest shit that isn't in the chart that occured AFTER the chart was made

nu /v/ is fucking real my lord
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>>381594764
>Gay sex with hats on
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>>381594764
>dolphin
what are you playing anon?
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>>381607124
Was trying out Twilight Princess since I haven't played it since release. It ran like balls, so I said screw it and started up Eternal Darkness.
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>>381568163
This seems shockingly accuract.

Was Hunters really that bad? I never bothered with it and it didn't seem that interest, but it seems wrong to put anything in Fucking Soccer or OtherM tier.
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>Fighting the Queen Metroid in Metroid 2
>Sometimes Samus can roll all the way into the Queen's stomach, sometimes she can't roll down any further than the mouth.

How the fuck does this work?
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>>381589674
So you're saying super Metroid is also a remake of the first game?
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>>381608029
>Europes gets a great Special Edition for once
Fuck, I would've traded the US BotW special edition with them for this.
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>>381579172
Prime 2 doesn't have the best gameplay, it is very unpolished due to the rushed game development time.
It improved on some things and then took steps back as well.
Prime 1 is the best overall easily. Then 2, then 3. 2 had better bosses generally due to simply having more of them, but the bosses could have very schizophrenic difficulty that is telling of a game that didn't have enough development time to smooth things out. The Dark World's a mess too and the world is far too broken up. Prime 1's interconnection is much nicer.
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>>381607892
The single player just was multiplayer maps cobbled together and the same two bosses recycled a dozen times, so it's absolutely not worth playing. It was very obviously an afterthought and cheaply done.

The multiplayer was a surprisingly good portable Quake 3, a bit unbalanced but impressive for the system. It was so plagued by hackers that it was impossible to enjoy outside of local play though.
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>>381608356
Nigga, NoE treats their consumers better than NoA with better special editions
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>>381607892

Single player campaign was mediocre and had some questionable design decisions (instant kill pits, the 8 main boss fights being the same two bosses fought multiple times.)

Multiplayer was better than a handheld arena shooter had any right to be, but was eventually ruined by heavy glitch and Action Replay use, and online for DS games is kill now so the entire mode is worthless unless you've got people around for local play now.
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>>381602197
Use freeroms or edgeemu faggot. Freeroms is great cause you get the pack of all known releases of the game in one 7zip.
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>>381554787
Fusion is the best game.
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>>381608803
Man that jap art seems bad.
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>>381608029
W H E N
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>>381555193
If I update this should I move trilogy to must play, thereby removing the seperate prime games or leave it at optional and add Metroid Samus Returns to reccomended?
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