KoF XIV

I have a toaster. 600 hours in 2002UM though.

>>381548274
Everyone quit because of Nakoruru and shit tier online

I've heard that the online isn't very good

>>381548274
artstyle is too animu. it's not realistic enough like tekken, doa, or vf.

Don't know why they haven't fixed the online slow fps in match problem yet

>>381548274
>has to beg for players on/v/
>can't start a thread without mentioning Street Fighter
I came here to laugh at you.

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Why doesn't the game have Krizalid? He was my favorite character on the Dreamcast version.

>>381548804
dead

maybe they shouldn't have made the characters look like ass

>>381548474
>>381548520
>>381548631

Is it really still a problem? I play with a small group and our matches are totally fine. I do remember it being an issue on release though.

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Post mains.

>>381548274
english speakers really don't fucking play it all. unless you live in cali, theres no-one to play with, local or online matchmaking. despite what /v/ might tell you, even this board prefers matchmaking over a regular lobby

>>381549114
Vice, Shingo, Yuri, Terry, Kyo-2

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>>381549114
my dude

also starting to really get into Yamazaki

>>381548274
BlazBlue, Guilty Gear, and Injustice are all better value for your money

>>381548995
It's not.

>>381548995
Yes, I've had that problem until I read the solution for it on the steam forums.

>>381548274
The game is too hard for the major casuals that are the fighting game community

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>>381549401
>villains

>>381549467
Newfag to fighting games here, how are blazblue and guilty gear different from each other, and which games should I be playing to prepare myself for DBZ fighter? I have probably 40 hours on street fighter V and I hated it but I bought revelator about a year ago and I'm going to start playing it. Or I can pick up a Blazblu on the current steam sale if it's better.

>>381548995

>mamahahax100

fuck this shit

>>381548274
Nobody cares about your shit game.
People just pretended to care to fool you into buying that piece of garbage.
Good job.

>>381548274
>the graphics are bad
Yes. The graphics are bad. And graphics is one of 2 most important things in a fighting game.

>>381548274
It's not street fighter

because there's little point in playing fighting games in multiplayer and most people are too lazy/ don't have people to play with locally

>>381553297
Tekken 7 is also not street fighter yet a lot of people are playing it right now. Even blazblue and GGREV have more players.
Kof XIV is not a good game. Face it.

>>381548274
I'm a newfag when it comes to SNK fighters, so I have a question. Does this game have that forced 3 character team thing that I've seen other KoF games have, or can you just play the game with just 1 character? That's been the main thing affecting my decision on whether or not to buy the game.

>>381553454
>Does this game have that forced 3 character team thing
yes

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>>381548274
I try to host a room or two every day on Steam. They fill up, so the game's at least not totally dead.

>>381549659
I tried one solution for it, but it didn't work very well. I have no idea why they haven't patched it.

I think the stupidest part is that people don't know it's a bug, they'll play out the fucking 10 fps match, and then quit. Nigga, if you want to quit the match, do it right away, don't wait it out and quit. If you wait it out, the bug goes away.

It's a shame, other than that bug the netcode has been great. I can play euros and even some good connection Brazilians with almost no noticeable lag.

>>381548274
I wonder where all the KoF shitposting niggers went after the fame launch so much for a SFV it MKX killer

>>381553454
Yes, but the option for 1v1 is there. It's been there for nearly every game. The only main one I can think of that didn't have it is the fist one.

>>381553454
>Does this game have that forced 3 character team thing

I mean that's KoF's entire schtick, being a crossover fighter
It's like Marvel vs. Capcom but with SNK franchises

>>381553454
There are several single-character only modes to chose from. 1-on-1 matches are common.

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When is it coming to Switch?

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>>381553454
It's a 3v3 fighter. Characters are much easier to learn in KoF, though. There aren't very few specific links, no counter hit combos that you have to learn like in SF. You only need to know about 3 combos per character.

Learning the system is much more important than learning characters.

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>>381553852
There are* very few links.

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>>381549114
Maining Terry is suffering in this game tbqh.

>>381553445
This isn't a logical conclusion. Something can be good and not be played by a lot of people. Please try again.

seems like it has a small community, plus im enjoying Tekken 7 atm

>>381548274
I'm going to play some of it on PS4.
IF I can get this fight stick alpha mod finished.
(Put some sanwa sticks and buttons in. Just need to wire it back up properly now)

>>381549114
I like the sleepy pillow guy. He's not the best but he has some interesting moves.

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>>381554253
He's very good.

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>>381554554
>graphic extends a full inch out of the damage box horizontally
>damage box extends a full inch past the graphic vertically

>>381553137
Jokes on you, buddy. I'm having tons of fun with it.

>>381554554
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es_ML4ESSKY&feature=youtu.be

What I like about him is that he's pretty competent both up close and fairly far away.
Meaning you can mix up your strategy with him, mid-fight. Play keep away or get in and snipe a combo.

Plus he's a master of Pocket Sand. What's not to love about that?

>>381554893
>invincible
>juggle afterwards
>only -8 with asinine pushback on block.

It's a good move, to say the least.

>>381553974
>kof 14
>good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiVTBQcjeFw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdHM-G8P3E4
L O L
O
L

>>381548274
>bought kof on release
>went to local fightan meetups
>no one plays it
>spend my time playing GG with the few people that play that
A sad display

>>381548274
>no Metal Slug characters

And no, Team Ikari doesn't count.

>>381550815
GG is more similar from what it seems like right now, though honestly there are alot of differences. Not having throw reversals changes the game completely, and Dust being turned into an unblockable rush even moreso. Just pick whichever you're interested in, though the game it's looking most similar to right now in terms of actual gameplay is Arcana Heart ironically enough

>>381556969
>posting gameplay from ver. 1.0

nice job, my dude

>>381553250

the most important things in a fighting game is.

how much money you can make by playing it

if the fgc cant make money from a fighting game, the game is gonna be a corpse in a year.
it doesnt matter how bad or good the game is.

everybody shit on sfv, but is the fighting game that most people play and its gonna live till sfvi release.
everybody loves rev2, but nobody plays it and its gonna fall into oblivion in a couple of months.

>>381548274
>why is nobody playing?

Because most people bought Tekken for cheaper two weeks before. SNK or whoever made this mess was an idiot for not just porting it to PC months ago (or hell just have a simultaneous release with consoles). Charging full price for a year old hand-me-down when Tekken 7 JUST came out was suicide.

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>>381548274
>All those SFV thread ruinined by shit posters saying this game will take the thrown
>see this thread

>>381559641
Either go with throne or crown, not a mixture of both.

>>381559727
What

I just bought it, will play it all weekend long.

When I have time off from the wife and kids


So practically never.

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>>381559890

Forgot my proofs

>>381559286
Haven't played Tekken since 5, so I'm not quite sure of the Changes Tekken 7 been through, kinda looking to jump back in since it looks cool as fuck, but hasn't Tekken 7 been playable for two years? I see that year old argument used against XIV, but isn't Tekken 7 actually older? All I know is that Tekken 7 has gone through character additions and balance changes, and so has XIV. Has Tekken 7 gone through any major gameplay changes before I jump back in?

>>381548274
>50 full-fledged characters
Who look and animate like shit and even after the patch the game is still best poke to max mode combo

>arcade/story mode
That is just standard, not having that would mean you were below standard

>variety of online modes
Which still doesn't have great netcode, plus no one plays these stupid modes after a month

> combo/trial modes
Again standard

> unlockable museum of KoF art
I already have the internet

>>381559825
He's saying that laughing negro can't spell/into proper grammar.

>>381559983
>Spending 250 dollars for something you won't even get to enjoy
Why

>>381560161
Bot him, but his money. If he chooses he's free to light it on fire.

>>381557656
>. Not having throw reversals changes the game completely
yes it does, throws are now one of the rush moves and the punch rushes are the throw breaks

>>381560276
you're rigth he's also free to jump off a mountain that doesn't make it any less fucking retarded

>>381559983
>Buy game thats suppose to come with all DLC
>It still doesn't some with alll DLC
Holy fuck Arc are such fucking jews with GG I don't know why peo0ple are hype for DBZ fighter when they do shit like this.

>>381560113
my point was SFV lacks all of this, yet is several times more popular, undeservedly.

>>381560806
>SFV lacks arcade mode
>SFV lacks combo/training mode
Mexican KoF nigger fuck off
>Doesn't have a varaity of game modes
Player matches
Ranked matches
KoTH Lobbies
What else do you want double nigger?

>>381560806
>BUT SFV
Yes a game everyone hates on and has less people playing than Tekken.

Saying we did better than a shit game is not saying anything, especially when we do that KoF lacks stuff like a proper cinematic story. Maybe, KoFXIV isn't actually all that good

>>381560724

Xrd Sign > Revelator > Rev 2

Yeah, it's really jewish but I hate not having all the characters. I put it off for what feels like two years, if I didn't get it now then I probably never would have. Steam sales just aren't what they used to be.

>>381560806
That's the power of a strong grip in the west, e-sports, drama (for other games too) and money, man Some people are making a career out of it. It's making capcom make some shitty decisions in regards to their fighting games and in cases making quality. A shame too since I loved the fuck out of their older stuff. I think that is causing the biggest potential customer base for these games (casual players) to not stick with it as long. Even evo numbers seem to be down in comparison from last year on all games except Tekken 7 which are only very slightly higher when compared to last year. In short in regards to fighting games, e-sports was a mistake.

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>>381561126
>Maybe, KoFXIV isn't actually all that good

It's good, it just doesn't have the budget to compete in spectacle and modes like Tekken. Tekken 7 is really great and I want to get my hands on it next sale, but modern fighting games are closer to an fighting single player story game, if that makes sense.

People like me that no longer have 6free hours of gaming time a day still love these games and buy them but we'll never gitgud, but I still want to experience them. Usually I play fighting games for about 50hrs before moving on and I reckon others in my situation are more or less the same. Stronger single player content means more stuff to do when you are perpetually stuck in gitgud territory.

Vidya is a hobby after all, not a job.

>>381560967
more than 16 characters at launch would be nice

>>381561630
Would you say it goes along with what >>381561557 mentioned?

>>381561729
That is literally your only valid compliant on the list

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>>381548274
But is the offline/single player good? I don't want to waste my time fighting legit retards online.

>>381560724
Not to mention Scamco always cut content for pre-purchase DLC/season passes, and will undoubtedly pay for Denuvo instead of GGPO.

>>381548536
>MUH REALISM
>MUH TEKKEN IS NOT ANIME
>MUH FEAR OF WEEBS EVEN THO THEY ARE JAPANESE GAMES

Why do black people love fighting games so much but don't like KOF games?

>>381561907
It doesn't have a cinematic story like GG or Blazblue, but it does have an arcade mode with endings for all teams and tons of artwork to unlock.

>>381561630
>it just doesn't have the budget
Boo hoo not my problem. You can make a good game on a small budget and they didn't. Arcsys are poverty as fuck but they put the work in with Xrd and now have the DB license, hard work is rewarded.

> but modern fighting games are closer to an fighting single player story game
And kofXIV really doesn't offer that much. You want to look at a game with an interesting variety of modes looks at NRS games. Basic ass arcade and trials doesn't cut it any more. At best XIV has okay features most of which are generally considered standard. Meanwhile Arcsys is still throwing free story stuff at me.

> I reckon others in my situation are more or less the same.
And other games large an small are still able to maintain a community, XIV has been dead since release.

>>381561836

If 20 years ago, I played Tekken, KoF and SF, which I did. Then it wouldn't matter to me how none casual friendly they got over time cause I would still eventually buy them if A) The price was right and B) on the platform I own.

Chasing the casual crowd by dumbing games down is in error since casuals only care if a game is popular, not whether if it has more modes, or features or gameplay. They give no fucks if their friends aren't play it.

>>381548274
>why is nobody playing?
because you bought a fighting game on pc, might as well have bought the n64 starcraft while you were at it

>>381562321
>might as well have bought the n64 starcraft while you were at it

Good times.

>Anon stop staring at my screen REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>381562321
I did? Could've sworn I bought it on PS4 when it launched. How silly of me.

This is an easy question to answer:
CEO results:
10 unique characters for top 8 SFV
10 for Tekken
8 for GG
KOF has a roster that's roughly double or triple some of those games and you have mirror matches! Granted, it's a TON better than launch day BirdDay but it's also a light international tournament as well. The KoF qualifier SNK held was mirror matches across the board, and on a roster of this size that's dull and unacceptable.
Add to the fact that these characters haven't changed at all, outside of the games' subsystem, and it makes watching someone play Iori/k'/Kula against NewGuy/Beni/Robert feel like you've seen this for years already.

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I LOVE ANGEL

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>>381548274
I play KOF2000 also that 98 mobile game almost everyday. The game is fun though

>>381548882
well technically since Verse contained all the souls of the previous fighters, krizalid included, he could come back since verse released all the souls when he died.

>>381564004
Character variety is not the greatest, but it has changed from before. Link related are just from top 4's across tournaments. In CEO there were 10 different ones and across the top 4s of tournaments that happened of the same weekend there were 29. After the most recent patch most characters are tournament viable, but i think part of the reason we still see a lot of the same characters are because they've always been strong since the beginning. In other words, some of them may not have such a huge advantage anymore, but if your main characters have always been decently strong and still are why bother changing. Many of the more known KoF top players have released tier lists and they mostly look similar with some slight variations.

https://twitter.com/gatoray_kof/media

>>381565872
Shit posted wrong link.
https://twitter.com/gatoray_kof/status/876472190379507712

>>381553729
Damn really? Never knew that? Always assumed Kof wass its own thing. In that case how come the Metal Slug characters aren't in KoF?

>>381565872
In a 3v3 game they only managed the same as SFV and Tekken, with incredibly frequent mirrors

It really doesn't matter if you get two unique characters each time in a sea of Benimaru and Kulas. 90% of the matches you watch are gonna have one of the characters you constantly see.

Nearly every team is gonna have 2 of the characters we always see then maybe a random pick.

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>>381565872
>>381566023
So that one has an idea of what the tier lists look like it's pretty much something like this with some slight variations

>2D
into the trash it goes

>>381566458
I mean sure, but your comparison was across top 8, the ones I mentioned was across top 4. It's not an exact equivalent. Also as mentioned
>After the most recent patch most characters are tournament viable, but i think part of the reason we still see a lot of the same characters are because they've always been strong since the beginning. In other words, some of them may not have such a huge advantage anymore, but if your main characters have always been decently strong and still are why bother changing.
That doesn't necessarily mean that's good for variation either.

Also, how is the variety for other 3v3 games since I don't follow them life marvel or skull girls for example? I'm genuinely curious since I don't follow them.

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I'm not chinese and Tekken 7 is out.

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>>381566246
Team Ikari Warriors are meant to represent Metal Slug, and they've been back-ported into a few Metal Slug games

Fio has snuck into KoF a few times, too

>>381548274
I dont play it because of fanboy spergs like you who cant make a thread without mentioning SFV.

Enjoy your dead game.

>>381548274
I got it for ps4. RefundedRev 2 and also got it for ps4.

No one on PC plays fighting games.

>>381562235
>Arcsys are poverty as fuck
What? No. They aren't Capcom or Bamco but they generally publish and made tons of money off Persona and Blazblue.

That's even remotely comparable.

>>381567176
that's an awfully silly reason to miss out on such a fun game

The game randomly drops to 30fps with no rhyme or reason for me and it fucks with my inputs.

>>381567026
Tekken 7 is not a western game too

>>381567365
Absolutely not. Fighting games are a community genre and when the community for a game is shit I will avoid it.


>>381567607
The joke is that the chinese love KoF.

>>381548274
this game is critically acclaimed in japan. western fucks cant get the aesthetic, and try so hard to be edgy, a hardcore gamer, falling for his wrong belief and a hivemind like "this isnt the game i wanted, everyone thinks like that too, so shouldnt think its good "

Extremely boring and shitty art-style.

>>381567582
Are your drivers for your graphics card up to date? I noticed on the technical support page some issues are caused because drivers aren't up to date, not all problems though.

>>381568145
Oh, I forgot about that.
Worth a try. Thanks.

>>381548274
>I wish I could fine people online


I dunno why people keep saying this, I can get matches fine anytime.

On PS4 anyway, if you are on PC then you should know by now that when it comes to fighters PC players will beg for a port, play it a bit, and then drop it. My bet is the majority of people who will get PC XIV will be from china. also the PC release has a few bugs that still need to be ironed out but from what I hear its alot better compared to beta.

>>381548474
Nakoruru wasnt even that bad, people needed to learn to swat her out the air.

>>381568675
If that doesn't work out report your problem in the technical support forums. The guys who made the port comb through them and post a couple patches a week. They will likely ask you for dxdiang to be posted up on pastebin or some equivalent. It would be helpful if you posted your specs too.

>>381554893
Dont act like you know anything about fighting game hit/hurtboxes because you dont.

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>>381567158
>all those unlockable alternate outfits, and outfits that were references to other missing KOF characters or SNK characters

>like 8 alternate DLC outfits in 14

i think that's half the reason why i even played Maximum Impact 2. it's much to ask when there's already 50+ characters in the game but what i wouldn't give for just 1 or 2 alternate outfits for every character (and not have to pay several hundreds of dollars for them)

>>381556969
I dont see anything wrong with either of these

>>381568996
I remember watching footage of a chink tournament that took place like a week after release and they figured that out since then and from what I noticed in the west people try to play keepaway or played really defensively in the west and that btfo players even harder. Then again the game has received major balance changes and Nakoruru isn't even a problem anymore. She's still strong, but nowhere near as crazy strong as before.

>>381560113
But the Netcode of XIV is great when its not bugged from an update that has to be patched again like 4-5 days later when Sony pushes the hotfix

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>>381548274
>why is nobody playing?
too busy fapping to angel desu

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Anyone here play on PC?

>>381567739
>using /v/ as a gauge for a fucking fighting game's community

I question your intelligence

>>381548274
As someone who bought Guilty Gear yesterday I feel your pain. There are plenty of lobbies full of asians but hardly anyone can give me a good connection from the UK, its especially bad because the game tells you how much delay there is.

>>381570553
Yeah because you fucktards only act like r/kappa idiots on /v/.
Eat shit. You deserve your dead game.

>>381571038
I'm fucking done with fighting games, the popular games are shit and the connection is garbage in decent fighters because no-one near me is playing.

Fuck online fighting game, I'm done.

>>381562235
>Boo hoo not my problem. You can make a good game on a small budget and they didn't
The game is still great and arguably one of the best fighting games right now, graphics notwithstanding.

>>381569970
I try to play some everyday, my brother plays it all the time though, rooms get populated very fast once you make them.

>>381571852
What times of day are usually the busiest?

>>381569912
Anyone here actually use Angel?

I'm trying to practice but christ, it's like trying to learn the game over again for one character.

>>381549114
Main: Kula/Athena/Mai

Sub: Daimon/Clark/KoD

Because the target audience won't bother playing outside fightcade.

>>381549467
Not everyone likes airdashers or NRS games.

>>381550410
The game is not even that hard. How low has the western FGC fallen?

>>381557954
esports was a mistake

>>381553454
>forced
Nigga, why don't you want to main 3 waifus or husbandos instead of having to pick only one?

>>381557116
That's kind of me, except I didn't buy the game, but had a few people playing it first week (even had a tourney), then everyone dropped it for the BBCF demo the week after. And they never looked back since then.

>>381564004
>CEO KOF14
Not even relevant, because the competition was weak. Remember EVO 2016 SF5 top8?

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>the graphics are bad

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>>381576857
I'm a KoF fan Models themselves are fine enough. The edits you see like the one you posted along with the Kula finger guns, or the ones in which they are put in DoA are the KoF XIV models themselves except with just different shaders (SFV, DoA and whatever was used for the Kula finger guns). Makes me wonder though, since it's just shaders I wonder if they'll ever do a second graphics patch once they get good at it.

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>>381577739
There's pictures out there of Some KoF girls put into DoA and as you may know there's the Angel and Iori in SFV videos.

>>381548274
>tfw can't even launch it since game requires opengl 4.3 or higher
>can't get that because driver is too shit to get it
I just want to play the game

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>>381548274
I feel you, I dont have money right now to buy new games, but I think kof and guilty gear are by far the best choices in fighting games. They have tons of content and lots of fun different characters to play, I agree that sfV is shit, I dont know why people still play it

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>>381564132
Me too

I'm not very good at fighting games but I stopped playing KoF XIV pretty quickly because it looked awful in terms of artstyle compared to other fighters like Skullgirls and Tekken 7, as well as not feeling very fluid. I can kick out combos in T7 just by experimenting with inputs from other characters but KoF XIV plays really slow and clunky when I try to do similar things there.

I get that I'm bad at it and applying two entirely different fighting games to each other which I'm sure have their own nuances and style to them, but I'm having a lot of fun with friends in Tekken, not even the fightan fags I know on Steam have KoF.

Also fuck that pricing.

>>381578323
E-sports, popularity in the region, the money involved in e-sports. KoF has none of those in the US or Europe. There in no money to be made for playing KoF and as such it's not as big of a draw. As much as the chinks Love KoF, despite chink tournaments having 100k plus views and despite KoF being chosen by the Olympics commission of Asia for their e-sports event, It won't gain any popularity in the English speaking regions nor will you hear any of that because SNK fighters have historically never had a good foothold in the English speaking regions. Plus I don't think chinks will buy something if they can help it. You will generally hear about what's popular in those regions.

When it comes to competitive play unless SNK is able to put in capcom cup levels of money into competitions KoF will be dead in the water in the english speaking world. Knowing SNK's situation, that won't happen anytime soon. Also I know graphics aren't everything, I personally don't really care and the models are fine enough as they are (shaders/lighting just sucked), but if it didn't give the impression it did the game might've done better as much as I hate to admit it. If it had that and the levels of money mentioned people like pic related would probably be defending it. Fchamp had mentioned something to the effect of that games shouldn't be hated for their graphics in defence of MvCI until people brought up pic relate, but those comments were gone and now apparently he's one of the first ones to call out MvCI's flaws. Eh, who knows.

>>381579814
T7 doesn't look very good either.

>as well as not feeling very fluid
>really slow and clunky
The same can be said for every fighting game, but especially Tekken.

>fuck that pricing
Why? For something that has the same base price as T7? And both are kinda old games by current standards?

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>>381580392

>>381580494
Fchamp has no opinion

>>381578323
Brand loyalty can be pretty strong. Also, esports.

>>381580494
>fagchamp
argument already invalid

>>381580762
>>381581164
That pics goes along with mostly the second part the post it is a reply to as to why KoF won't really be popular in English speaking regions.

>>381581667
Honestly wouldn't surprise me if some of the top players in the FGC were shills.

>>381580431
>The same can be said for every fighter
If you really think that then we're just going to have to agree to disagree, I've played plenty of fighters that felt fluid and fun, and I'm not even good at the genre.

>Why?
Because they expect me to pay more than Tekken 7 for a much older game. If you count Tekken 7 in arcades then they're comparable but there's no arcades that have modern fighting games where I live so it's not relevant to me when they came out in arcades. I compare retail releases, KoF came out much longer ago on consoles and only just recently got to PC but is full base price with DLC characters not included in the purchase. Tekken 7 came out three weeks ago and costs less than most games, not to mention $20 less than KoF's base price

>Both are kinda old games
Already covered the arcade thing, but this brings up another point, they both may be older, but KoF looks like it, whereas Tekken 7 looks great and runs really well, it looks better than a lot of AAA titles and looks better graphically than most 3D fighters ever released.

I just don't see the incentive to play it when I'm having so much more fun with a game that looks better, costs less, has an actual playerbase and that my friends personally got into. I mentioned earlier that I don't know anyone who bought KoF and that's a huge factor too, I've asked around and they're planning on getting it when it's much lower on sale, so maybe I'll get into it then but until that happens it's collecting dust on my SSD.

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>>381582258
Who knows maybe. They claim they aren't being paid but then again there's that pic of Justin Wong wearing capcom and budlight stuff and he claims he wasn't being paid for it. I'm not passing judgement on anyone. I'll just say that stuff like pic related exists.

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>>381582830
This is a thing too apparently.

>>381582571
Both have 70$ as base price. KOF14 is even on sale right now, 20% off.

Also, Tekken past mashing out strings with capos, does feel pretty clunky.

>Tekken 7 looks great
It looks iffy (i.e. every comment on Lili's look, low res graphics). DOA5 looks better.

>has an actual playerbase and that my friends personally got into
Good for you, but I don't fall into the whole popularity factor. My friends are into T7 right now, but that's not an incentive for me to get it.

>>381578323
At first I thought she was peeing. Disappointing.

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>>381548274
I like KoF as a game. Played '98 and 2002 for fun and tried to play XIII competitively when it came out. A couple of things bothered me and made me drop the XIII early on and made me not bother with XIV as a result.

>No scene
As someone already mentioned here, the game's just not popular in America. I know it's a infinite cycle (there's no scene because no one wants to play and vice versa), but not having a lot of people to play with is a very discouraging thing to deal with. If only the online was good, I could've tried learning from that, but given how technical KoF games are and how the fighting game's netcode are not that great to begin with, it's not really doable.

>balance
Another thing that turned me off was the balance in XIII. DLC characters were so stupidly strong that the entire cast was obsolete. Now, I'm not a XIV expert but it really seemed that way with XIV when it came out as you saw the same 4-5 characters every top 8 of a major and that just reminded me the bitter taste in my mouth I had when trying to deal with the infinite amount of Mr. Karate in XIII.

>XIV is not polished
What a downgrade. I know they wanted to try stepping in the 3D world, but what a fucking downgrade from XIII, arguably one of the best looking fighting game. Graphics doesn't matter but at least give us the impressions that you worked hard on them. The first impression counts and when I saw XIV for the 1st time, I thought it was a fucking Dreamcast game.

It sucks because, like I said, I enjoy KoF as a game and I was really waiting for Angel to be in a next gen game (favorite character) but there's just no reason to play it and invest time into it. Game was dead on arrival and doesn't look polished. Maybe I'll try XV when they get their shit together.

>>381585304
XIII has a bunch of questionable chara-design decisions though. Also, casuals would take a glance at it and say it looks like some SNES game.

Also, >>381576857

>as you saw the same 4-5 characters every top 8
Not the case with XIV fortunately. See >>381566023

>>381584039
>Both are $70
KoF is $60 base, Tekken 7 is $50 base and $40 when I got it on sale, not sure where you're getting $70 from

>I don't fall for popularity
And neither do I. Not sure what you're talking about considering Tekken 7 is hardly popular, it just has a playerbase big enough to find matches at any time of day, and if you don't find having friends who own it as a personal incentive to get something that's totally fine, but don't pretend this is some kind of popularity contest

>Low-res graphics
Looks pretty damn good to me. Great textures and good models, fantastic particle and hit effects as well as built in and well optimized supersampling, I think it looks pretty damn good. If you don't agree that's fine, there's games that look way better sure, but you're ignoring that Tekken 7 looks better than KoF, which is a big deal. Graphically might not matter so much but I'm terms of art style and the models, KoF is filled with jank, whereas Tekken 7 has little to none

>>381585304
Also, XIV's netcode is better than XIII's and combos are easier as well.

>>381549114
Yamazaki, Ralf, Rock

SNK came the fuck through with that DLC. Ordinarily I don't defend DLC, but they quite adequately demonstrated how in touch they are with their fans. I don't play Whip or Vanessa but those were some pretty great choices as well

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>>381549114

Here have a major tourney being won by a team of Antonov, Verse and King of Dinosaurs
https://youtu.be/JqXgnxmsvU0?t=13m46s

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>>381585979
>KoF is filled with jank, whereas Tekken 7 has little to none
I am politely going to disagree.

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>>381585804
Those are recent results, though. When the game 1st came out, the diversity in character wasn't that great at majors.

As for graphics/models, if it's really just a matter of bad shading/lighting, then they should've fixed it before releasing it. I do think >>381576857 looks good but that's not how it looks in XIV, sadly.

Anyway, even if they fix all the issues, the ship has already sailed. I know we're in an era of "release now, patch later" but people are also more fickle-minded than before, so you better make a really good impression or else people won't care later. I wish I could be optimistic about the game and say "buy it, it's a fun game regardless of the problems and how small the community is!" but I don't have the motivation to do so, so I'll just wait for the next KoF with Angel in it.

>>381553832
no way fag

>>381586608
>CDN
Ah, that explains a lot

>>381587078
I think I can forgive a lot of the issues, because I've been waiting for a game that plays like this a long fucking time. A game with pokes and zoning that feel good, with a good balance between offense/defense, neutral-heavy, quick but high damage combos, fast but not crazy like airdashers. I think the closest I've got before was UNIEL (not UNIST), Aquapazza and Koihime Enbu.

Angel is god-tier fap-fu, but I'm not a fan of rushdown characters, especially t-rex limbed rushdown characters.

>>381587608
Yeah, some countries have KOF14 for waaay cheaper for base price.

What does Terry say when he does his super?

This is critical to if i'll buy the game.

>>381548274

Because the /fgc/ only ducks Capcom's cock and Esports cold never handle the lewdness of some of the DLC outfits or characters like Luong, Zarina, Mai or Angel.

>>381588434
Which one?

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>>381588804
>blaming other people for you not having enough dedication to keep your scene alive

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Round 2 DLC get's announced

Who do you want

>>381548274
Because of timed exclusive.

>>381548274
Are there any other brown skinned qts in this game?

>>381589013
Any of them
...
Are any of them OKAY!

>>381589163
I liked Elizabeth but I know she'll never come back

>>381589163
Bao.
Orochi Bao.
Shin Bao.

>>381589214
Zarina.

>>381560034
>hasn't Tekken 7 been playable for two years?

If you happen to live in a Japanese arcade, sure. Good luck playing it at home, or hell, in America at all outside of maybe a few select locations. For 99.5% of the buyers its a brand new release.

>>381575352
>Not everyone likes airdashers or NRS games
That's fair, but the OP stating "This game feels like it has so much effort put into it compared to other fighters right now" is blatantly false.

>>381589618


he basically just meant street fighter.

>>381589214
There's Zarina. Here's a link towards a random zarina combo vid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jIpO8ZA1Vc

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>>381554893

You don't have any fucking idea what you're talking about. Drink bleach.

>>381549401

Yamazaki is boss. I love all the stuff he can do.

>>381562195

Because mexicans play KOF and you can't bully mexicans like you can whites when they whoop your ass. Mexicans will straight stab you.

>>381576857


For all the fucking idiots saying graphics are so important- you guys are dumb fucking casuals.

Even games today don't look as good as 3s or Garou did and people still play them. MVC2 had BOOTY graphics for a bunch of its characters and was still massively popular. SFIV is insanely ugly and was very popular too.

The most important thing is gameplay, then mechanics, then graphics that give feedback (hit-sparks, combo counter, etc.), THEN art direction graphics.

Shut the fuck up you stupid hipsters. You don't know shit.

Also Angel is great in this game. So are Rock, Yamazaki, and Vanessa.

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>>381589241

For his level 1 Buster Wolf he says "Are you okay? BUSTA WOLF!"

For his EX he says "Here comes da big one! BUSTA WOLF!"

>>381589975
>Are you OK?
That's it, i'm sold

>>381589241
Buster world: Are you ok? Buster Wold!
EX buster wold: Here comes the big one. Buster wolf!
Power geyser: Power Geyser!
EX power geyser: You're mine! Geyser!
Climax: Get this, stay down!

Vid link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdt9Qdx0_Os
Vid is from before the graphics patch.

>>381589163
Chris
Bao
Hokutomaru

>>381590339
It's like you want to get stabbed.

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>>381589163

Blue Mary
Oswald
Gato
Shermie

Duck King

If it had Rugal in it for some reason it would have sold more in English speaking countries.

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>>381549114

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>>381590502

Fight me

>>381590504
>Duck King
I like it.

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>>381589163
Team USA+Shermie

I love KoF but the U.S scene is so fucking dead. So I pretty much had to drop it.

>>381589241
HERE'S THE BIG ONE

comes out very often due to being very combo-able.

His lv1 Buster Wolf is OKAY, but he doesn't say BUSTAAAAH WOOOOLF, but just Buster Wolf! instead.

>>381589618
Well, KOF14 has 50 characters right out of the box with no assets reused. It was in development for 2 years. They have been patching it every now and then and they managed to not fuck up the balance. They even patched the graphics. They actively scan every #KOFXIV tweets for bugs and feedback. The Steam version is patched every few days.

Oda is putting himself out there to promote the game. Fans wished for DLC characters, they got (some of) them. They are very responsive on social media.

>>381562295
It's important to chase the casuals for two reasons. One, the OGs are getting too old and you need fresh blood to support your genre. And two, the best way to do this is to cast a wide a net as possible. The truly casuals will bug off after a couple weeks, but you will still hook enough people who liked the game enough to delve deeper in the genre and try other things and hopefully become a long term fan. You won't get many new people coming in if you continue to make the games confusing as balls because the entry barrier is too high. You gotta ease newbies into it.

What people forget is most of the FGC now was introduced by SF2, an (by today's standards) incredibly casual and basic game.

>>381548274

>Implying I want to pay $100 to play a dead fighting game you can'take money off of when SGV exists

AHAHAHAHA GET FUCKED! CAPCOM WILL ALWAYS FUCKING OWN YOU FAKE-ASS MOTHERFUCKERS TALKING SHIT ABOUT THE /fgc/!!!

>SFV = Fighting Games

NO OTHER FIGHTING GAME MATTERS! NO OTHER FIGHTING GAME WILL EVER MATTER!

>B-b-b-but w-what about Dragon Ball Fighte-

NIGGA NOBODY FUCKING CARES ABOUT SOME GHETTO-ASS GUILTY GEAR KNOCK-OFF! SAME REASON WHY NOBODY CARES ABOUT SOME THIRD-STRING STREET FIGHTER WANNABE CHINKS & SPICS PLAY BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO POOR TO LEARN HOW TO MAKE SOME REAL MONEY WITH STREET FIGHTER V!

>>381590851
Nothing about your post contradicts what I said though. KoF is not "unique" in the amount of developer support and content. The 3 games I listed are more packed in pretty much every department.

>>381590339
Why are SNK games /ss/-paradise?

Those tiddies monsters.
Those young men.

>>381549114
Iori, Leona, Joe main
K', Mai, Luong sub

>>381548274
KoF is a shitty mexican fighting game series.

>>381590535
He was dead storywise, the end of XIV raises the hope of him and a bunch others dead characters and a redacted one to come back. The boss said quotes from a bunch of dead characters (this was because he retained their souls or some shit). Some of those included Rugal, Jeff, Leona's dead dad I think, and Ash (I might have missed some). when he was defeated and separated into several pieces he scattered and those pieces landed in different places. The one that was confirmed by the game's ending was Ash. So if he came back via Verse the other character mentioned can come back too.

>>381591449

Man I love KOF but I do not like Verse

>>381591449
How the hell does Ash still even have a soul if he literally retconned himself out of existence by killing his ancestor?

How does Elizabeth even remember him?

>>381591540

Would it have been better if the final boss was a female version of him named "Uni"?

I would but no one else is so whats the point?

>>381591648

Alternate realities?

>>381591648
https://youtu.be/MiEJjx4YCZU

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>>381591656

Why not just have it be Antonov who instead of a secret evil plot really is just a happy billionaire wanting to have a fun tournament

It not being some plot or evil event would really throw everyone for a fun loop I think

>>381590949
Yeah, "technical" is a meme. No amount of APM will get you somewhere if you don't even have fundamentals. Besides, there are times in matches when you gotta have to NOT press buttons.

NRS and Arcsys games both a packed singleplayer experience, that I can agree with. As far as pvp goes, I wouldn't even touch them. Now, the thing I don't believe with is developer support.

>>381548274
Because it's sixty fucking dollars

>>381591916
Forgot to quote >>381591000 for the second part of >>381591916.

>>381548274
I have it but I'm a scrub and never know how to git gud.
Same with every fighting game i buy. i don't even know why i still buy those, for the story I guess?

>>381564132
i want to be angel and whore my self with fat mexican nerds

>>381592116
Fat old bald mexican nerds?

>>381591763
Ask your friends to get it or Reddit/Discord.

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>>381591829
Are you saying you love Ash?

>>381591831

That's pretty much what happened though. Antonov is just some dude that made "Fuck You"-levels of money, likes KOF from the tournaments from back in the day and wants to make it great again. Then some asshole dimension-hopper shows up, wrecks everything for no goddam reason and costs Antonov's companies billions, not to mention a bunch of bad publicity and the usual "Evil Genuis tries to destory mankind with a KOF Tournament" rumblings in-universe.

>>381590998
(You)

>>381591831
I'm hoping he comes back for the next game with his own team. Antonov already seems to be balanced around being a normal fighter rather than a boss.

Who could he team up with?

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>>381592468
It was more of me speaking for Elizabeth.

Also there's a new sheriff in town

>>381592604

NIGGA YOU TELLIN' ME RIGHT NOW THAT YOU PLAY VIDEOGAMES FOR FREE?! LOL THA FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU? WHAT'S THE POINT OF LEARNING HOW TO DO COMBOS AND SHIT IF YOU CAN'T MAKE SOME $$$ ON THA SIDE?

BESIDES THAT, IF 99 PEOPLE TOLD YOU THAT A GAME WAS SHOT AND YOU BELIEVE OTHERWISE, GUESS WHAT? TRUTH DON'T MATTER. THE 99 ARE THE ONES I THE RIGHT AND YOU DONE FUCKED UP BY NOT JUMPING ON THA ESOORTS TRAIN LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

>>381591648
What the other anon said, alternate realities maybe?
Then again the fucker could skip between worlds and realities and contrary to what people tell you it was not him who brought the pachi girls. It was Nakoruru who brought over Love Heart and Mui Mui who come from different worlds/alternate realities since she needed their help while she was chasing Verse. There is this one autist on twitter who really hates the pachi girls and whines about Ukyo or Haohmaru not being Nakoruru's partners and even helped spread a rumor that Chizuru was going to be in the game and the pachi characters replaced, but that rumor had to ultimately be put down by an SNK employee. He also went as far as suggeting a rebout version of XIV be announced at E3. Even if his wish of the pachi girls were to come true that still doesn't mean that Ukyo and Haohmaru be brought over since in her conversation with Chin Nakoruru flat out says she's much much older than him, in prologue material I think it's mentioned she's already a nature spirit, indicating that Ukyo and Haohmaru are already long dead.

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>>381592638
So where do the 10 UNIfags go?

>>381592638
Some of these are not accurate. It's supposed to be:
- Blazblue: weebs in bad cosplay
- Tekken: kpop fans
- Darkstalkers: tumblrcunts
- DBZ: Black weebs in bad cosplay
- MvCI: Black with Down syndrome

>>381593195
With the 10 other Meltyfags in the dumpster. Now go and only come back if Merkava has been buffed.

>>381592630
If Mian and Sylvie indicating that they'd be willing to work for him again, then it'll probably be those two. After the tournament Kukri pretty much bailed and led Elizabeth to Ash.

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>>381590998
>>381593004

>>381592489

Well yeah but my point is that Ant could have been like the Anti-Rugal. A nigh unstoppable strong man who just loves KOF and wants everyone to be happy.

Verse felt tacked on and pointless and a suped up Antonov could have been a great final boss.

>>381592630

Mian and Sylvie seem to be keen on standing by him. Which is nice.

>>381593125

Yeah, the Nakoruru KOF XIV has is the full-on "I have ascended to godhood" version a couple of Samurai Shodown game'so endings hinted at happening.

Honestly, of all of the SamSho characters that I could think of that could be in a future KOF game, you'd have to use deities/demons/spirits like Enja, Suija, Yunfei and Iroha for it to make sense and do the whole alternate realities scenario.

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>>381593420
But we got a new game!

No clue on the Merkava state though, everyone is pretty balanced in UNIST's arcade while there's more balance changes in the console release.

>>381593576
gotta source there senpai?

>>381593434
Hope Kukri comes back because I actually like him, even though he's edgy as fuck. He could be on Elizabeth's team I guess.

>>381593576

That's what a female Krizalid should look like IMO. Or Shen Woo...

>>381593585

But he still kind of is. Antonov had no idea that Verse was going to show up during his tournament and even if he did, he wouldn't have tried to summon it or something like NESTS or Those From The Past would have.

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>>381592638
Mostly correct, had to make some minor corrections.

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I REALLY REALLY LOVE ANGEL

>>381593865
>Hehe I'll leak your email address on the internet

He's 4chan personified

>>381593623
I liked it when the game was neutral-heavy with hugeass pokes. I saw some UNIST games and it looked more rushdown-heavy. Am I assuming wrong?

Also, combos being like in anime games kinda turned me off. I didn't mind them when I was younger though. Tastes just change.

>>381594081
Who does he say that to?

>>381594081

He really is. Fuck, I almost want a dub of XIV just to see if they would've given him a Coldsteel "Nothing Personel, Kid" kind of VA.

>>381594291
I think that's one of his general win quotes

>>381594006
>DBZ and GG
This guy got it. Well, weeb metalfags can also do the trick for GG.

>>381593924

Right but my point is we could have dropped Verse entirely and just had a fun tournament that left all the government people thinking there was a problem confused.

Imagine Hiedern just filling the stadium with his guys because he thinks there's trouble brewing and it turns out nothing bad happened and everyone just had a good time

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>>381548274
Because KOF XIII, with it's actually decent online matchmaking, exists

>>381568003
>this game is critically acclaimed in japan.
[citation needed]

>>381594563
I wouldn't touch KOFXIII with a 10-ft pole even if it has a better matchmaking.

>>381594242
>I liked it when the game was neutral-heavy with hugeass pokes. I saw some UNIST games and it looked more rushdown-heavy. Am I assuming wrong?
It still retains that level of neutral but the new and aggressive stance people choose to play is because you can Veil Off in certain combos to finish off opponents when they're low enough.

>Also, combos being like in anime games kinda turned me off. I didn't mind them when I was younger though. Tastes just change.
I can see your point but there's something in a few character's combos that I still find really entertaining and appealing.

>>381592638
>tfw GG and KoF fan
>tfw edgy Mexican
Can't say it's wrong, man.

>>381594465

OH... Yeah OK that's what should have happened.

>>381593226
>Tumblrcunts
What

>>381593195
>Got UNIEL in Steam sale
>It's actually pretty fun
>Remember that I don't live in Cali, NY, or Florida
>Cry a little

>>381595263
Darkstalkers is pretty popular among female cosplayers, in kinda the same extent to GG and BB because they go for a fantasy setting. Since GG and BB both have an actual sizeable playerbase, all that's left for Darkstalkers are the female fans.

>>381592638
Where's NRS fans?

>>381595603
Ed Boon or CoDbros.

>>381595603
Fell free to add or edit like this anon did >>381594006

>>381557648

There are a couple in NeoGeo Battle Coliseum - maybe one day they'll make a sequel to that...

>>381559286

They were probably just waiting for the Sony exclusivity period to end.

>>381596557
Probably, but it should have still had a cheaper starting price. SFV, shit as it may be, is $40 new and $20 during the current sale. Casuals just wanting to do some fightan will go toward it both for name brand recognition and it being much cheaper.

>>381559286
>MUH PC

Oh fuck off you bitches do nothing but whine and then when you do get the game you either don't play or you pirate it.

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>>381597079
>SFV, shit as it may be, is $40 new

SF5 was 60 when it was new! It getting a price drop because it sells like shit doesn't change that

>>381597273
Thought it was obvious from the post I meant the current price since are talking about KOF right now.

>>381597273
>tfw it's 20 or less new now

loving every laugh, what a turd.

>>381597407
Who's still buying SF5 these days?

i'm kinda on hiatus from playing myself, but it's been a while so i can probably come back

are you on psn? i can't play steam because my comp sucks

>>381597407

It doesn't matter if it's now. They still tried to sell it for full price. Using it as an example of a better priced game at all is fucktarded

>>381597642
Right now is actually the only thing that matters since KoF14 just released for PC. No one cares how it "might have" sold on there a year ago in some hypothetical scenario.

Again, read that I said SFV is shit too, but between it and KoF RIGHT NOW people are more likely to go with the cheaper one, among other reasons I didn't even list.

>>381548274
game is still too expensive as fuck

>still no Blue Mary or Duck King

Fucking idiots, that's like leaving Guile and Sakura out of SF, or Kano and Sonya out of MK.

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>>381589163

>>381598520
>leaving Sakura out of SF
I'm okay with that.

i would buy it if i had a credit card
someone buy it for me? we can play
http://steamcommunity.com/id/sickshady

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>>381594073
She does thing's to me

>>381598520
no it isnt, not even close
also sakura is not a core character so maybe i guess you're actually right, it's exactly like leaving out sakura. Kinda sucks but not a big deal to anyone

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>>381589241

She appears in a XIV ending, the possibility isn't off the table.

>>381598724
She was a main character since Alpha 2, in like the mid 90s.

>>381598520
Blue Mary is a desired character, but Duck King isn't a KoF staple.

Maybe for the next batch of DLC.

>>381598853
I understand Mary, but Duck? How many KoF's has Duck been in?

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>>381598930
>Duck King isn't a KoF staple

You're talking nonsense. He's great.

>>381599196
Two different things.

There needs to be a middle ground between plinking and auto-combos.

>>381591648

Nakoruru's team pretty much implies there's an SNK mmultiverse to draw from.

As for Elisabeth, in XIII's ending she was already affected by Ash's self-retconning, possible since she was nearby when it happened, even in in her actual XIII ending she's grieving without remembering why - I figure the latent memory emerged or something.

How are both of them comparable?

>>381568996
>>381569645
Nakoruru was completely broken and did not follow the rules of the game and had completely fucked risk reward. She was in a tier of her own several tears above the rest of the cast on release. The reason you don't see her now is that she has been HEAVILY nerfed and changed to something somewhat more in line with KoF characters, though she is still easily in the top 1/3 of characters in the game despite the nerfs.

Anyone who says Nakoruru was fine was not good at the game, she had basically free pressure, a invincible reversal that could only be punished with an anti air for like 5% damage at best resulting in an air reset, a projectile that beat all other projectiles, including super projectiles, that was also angled in an awkward way, high damage, one of the best anti airs in the game, some of the best normals in the game and also was very easy to play. This is just off the top of my head.

Currently Benimaru is the best character, but if release Nakoruru was in the game she would still easily be and honestly might even be banned as she would be a mandatory pick and completely invalidate most of the cast because they couldn't option select her cling.

98, 2002, and 13 are on sale right now. Which if any do I get and will it work with my xinput arcade stick?

>>381585304
>DLC characters were so stupidly strong that the entire cast was obsolete.
This is flat out wrong, the DLC characters were all good, Mr Karate and EX Iori in particular, but so was a large amount of the rest of the cast.

So many people talk about KoF13 and don't understand it at all.

For a start, the three DLC characters are all point characters, though karate is sometimes played second. To make a real team, you cannot just rely on DLC.

Leaving that aside, you have characters like King and Duo Lon, who are straight counterpicks to all three DLC characters and just as viable.

There is a huge pool of viable characters for first position, and second still has a good deal of variety. The only position that really has balance issues is anchor, where you really only have four sensible options (Non DLC Iori, Vice, King, Shen MAYBE Ash if you want to try really hard for less reward than the other four).

And let's not forget Chin has been on the winning team of every single Evo.

There are a fuckton of viable characters in 13. It is probably one of the best KoF games for it, compared to KoF98 which literally has like 6 characters you can actually play at high level, and I would also argue is more balanced than 14.

>>381599874
Get 13, download the roms of 98 and 02 so you can put in fightcade and I think xinput works, but if it doesn't just use joy2key or whatever

>>381600624
When I say King for anchor, I mean Kim, whoops

>>381600624
Non DLC Kyo was also much more popular than DLC Kyo at the end of the game's life and considered better overall, though DLC Kyo had a better neutral, he can't compete with shit like a 2 frame super that normal kyo has and much better scaling with meter.

>>381599087

Only XI - 2000 too, if you count strikers.

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>>381600737
okay

>>381579693
>>381564132
WHERE IS THE SFM , SHIT

>>381601894
>ywn hug King

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>>381602745
Lurk moar

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>>381602745
>sfm

>>381600624
>more balanced than 14
Very, very arguable.

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really enjoyed 13 but 14 feels strange is there a reason for this?

>>381603217
You should seek help.

I only played KoF 11 on PS2 and the final boss was an asshole. Is 13 or 14's bosses any better?

>>381603329
got a real reason or is this gonna be back and forth argument over a real question?

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>>381548274
cause trump deported all the mexicans

>>381603217
Transition to 3D is weird and feels "floaty" even though this is the same speed as the older ones

>>381602950
more of this? source?

>>381603513
Can't take a banter, can you?

Okay, I'm willing to answer that question seriously. "Feel" is pretty vague as far as gameplay concepts go. This >>381603513 might be a good start.

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>>381603783
Lurk moar

>>381553137
Nah, it's fun get fucked

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>>381603884
just trying to deny bait, wait what

>>381603426

XIII's is annoying, but if you corner it it can't quite handle shifts from high to low attacks.
XIV's is a more reasoanble kind of challenge - it's usable by players too.

>>381548274

Stick is dead and nobody told me this game came out. It just magically showed up on Steam one day.

>>381549114
Love Heart/Mian/Verse

>>381604032
Source?

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>>381605910
>King (female)

Clear the way scrubs, best King coming through.

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>>381606045
Why not both

>>381608743
Well, he's right.

>>381607291
Costume swap when

>>381548274
buy it for me and I will

>>381549114
Rock
Hein
Yamazaki

Angel
Luong
Yuri

>>381600624
Bullshit. As someone who played Joe/Kula/Mai, I had absolutely no chance of winning even if I tried my hardest. Shit was unbalanced.

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I play ps4 version, but I have a whatsapp group and discord server that the good EU players mostly seem to be using.

PC version is jank, I got a refund and bought T7 with it.

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>when people drop KOF because it's "too hard"
It isn't any harder than SF. Just be honest and say you aren't having fun.

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post combos

>>381610218
>I play ps4 version
FINA-
>EU
fuck my life

>>381611969
Outdated.

>>381611810
I can't process how someone can't have fun with such a good game, but I guess this is what having different opinions means.

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>>381613860
Oh, how do I not miss KOF13.

Honestly, that game was a mistake.

>>381612870
Apparently you're in the minority, since nobody's playing the game

>>381614063
how can you not like the anime combos???

goddamn i like kof13, but i do agree that those combos are just absurd

>>381614146
If I'm the only one playing the game, that means I'm 100% of the playerbase, so not the minority but the majority, right??

>>381614404
I just don't like anime combos nor airdashers in general.

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>>381614063
>>381614404
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gca2gAUyybA
:^)

>>381614867
Profound sadness.

id rather play 02 or 98

>>381614867
This the ending to XIII in my head.

>>381610218
>PC version is jank

What's wrong with it?

>>381614867
Why did he just walk away and leave the guy with 1% health instead of just finishing the job?