I haven't seen a single Odin's Sphere thread, did I

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Also this is probably the comfiest "chapter select" screen I've seen in ages.

You didn't miss anything back in the PS2 days. The game ran so poorly on the PS2 that I'm surprised it was even released. I don't usually care about framerate, but it regularly slowed down so much that it was unplayable

>Am I missing anything by just playing on normal?
Only enemies with way too much health. I played it on normal first and then went NG+ hard mode and it was pretty fun. I can't imagine picking away at hard mode enemy hp with starting skills though. Would get tedious fast

>>381534041
See, that's what I heard way back when which stopped me from picking it up. Fell in love with Dragon's Crown and when I heard about the new release I was set to get it as soon as I could (which really, wasn't soon enough).

The controls feel a lot more responsive and smoother than I expected, so that is awesome.

Thanks for the advice, I'll probably do that if I go NG+

I was trying to find Odin sphere for the vita but everyone in North America is sold out it seems like. Fucking lame that I missed out us have had a short print run.

>>381534365
Amazon my man

OS and Muramasa are great. Beautiful visuals and music, fun gameplay with some depth, nice little story.

They don't seem to click with some people though. I guess for every person drawn in by the art style and gameplay, there's another person pushed away by it. It's either 'weebshit' because it has a cartoony style (even though it's far from generic anime), or primitive in some way because it's side scrolling.

>>381533523
The game becomes pretty easy as the characters gain more abilities. I'd recommend switching to hard after the first chapter or two but ultimately it's your decision. Difficulty level doesn't affect the story or trophies

>>381534462
I was hoping for msrp price at least but I guess beggars can't be choosers. Fucking 60-110 bucks on amazon. Fucking jews man.

>>381534745
I don't have a Vita so I don't know anything about it, but if it's region free, you can pick up the EU release on Ebay for $40

>>381534257
If any game needed a remake/remaster, it was OS. They really couldn't have done a much better job. Both DC and OSL are fantastic games. Looking forward to seeing what they do with Aegis Rim

>>381533523
I like the game but I would enjoy it much more if there were less playable characters. Maybe only 3. I get kinda bored towards the end.

>>381535186
>Looking forward to seeing what they do with Aegis Rim
I wish we'd get some freaking gameplay

>>381535186
>>381535489
I just hope they won't make us do 13 playthroughs to see the complete story.

>>381535804
>>381535489
I'm betting it won't be anything like their past games. Most of their games are action, but GrimGrimoire wasn't, so I wouldn't be surprised if this one isn't. Doesn't matter either way to me, though. I haven't been disappointed with anything they've put out

>>381535804
Wouldnt mind as long as each playthrough has mostly different content is and not very lenghty overall. 4 hours per route would be perfect.

I regret playing the PS2 version. It's a shame, because it could have been a good game. I'll bet the remaster is great though.

>>381536036
The remaster is. It completely smooths out the originals performance while also including an enhanced version that is a borderline remake

You missed two boats.

bump. not yet

>>381533523
I enjoyed it. the first time I had to go through those exact same seven areas.

The game is like a form of torture by Velvet.

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Why is Velvet's and Cornelius' gameplay so superior to everyone else?

>>381539823
Cornelius and Gwen, my man. Cornelius is fuckin crazy. I wasn't feeling Mercades at all though, in the original or refined mode. There wasn't enough bullet hell shit in her story

>>381539823
I kinda managed to be able to play Mercedes decently by the end of her chapters but she wasn't nearly as fun as the others, except Oswald, he sucks dicks

>>381543428
meant for >>381539978

Original Odin Sphere is shit, but I heard they fixed the gameplay with the remake.

>>381543428
>>381539823
Cornelius a best, for sure. Even on the PS2 one he was fun, but in the Vita one he's insane.

Velvet and Oswald are probably the most powerful though.

>>381533523
We had a ton of threads for this on the week the remake came out

Mercedes has the best story, but worst gameplay. Oswald is complete shit, both in gameplay and story. I didn't think Velvet was as bad as everyone says, I had a lot of fun being spiderman

>>381543689
yep, more or less. they even included the original game play into a seperate mode for the hell of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAMZ_sjDMvY

>>381544989
Can't wait to see gameplay. At least from the walking scenes you know there'll be at least some good old fashioned side-scrolling action

>>381545152
Not necessarily. I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't an action game at all. GrimGrimoire was a RTS, after all, so they aren't afraid to experiment

>>381545152
I'm surprised it was even confirmed for localization at this point when Japan isn't any closer to getting it than we are.

It's one of those games that is all-round excellent (the remake at least), but there's not really much to talk about.

Leifthrasier really set the bar for remakes personally, a very nice mechanics update, dual audio, and it even includes the original game with purely technical improvements.

>>381533523
Are you playing with Leifthrasir's gameplay or classic? If you're on Leifthrasir then play on hard otherwise it's too easy.

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I should replay the game someday on classic and try the custom settings.

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Dragon's Crown was better

>>381533782
The things I would do to that girl.

>>381548090
They're not the same game at all. Dragon's Crown is one of the best multiplayer experiences I've had, but I prefer Odin Sphere overall.

>>381533523
Just recently finished it on the PS4. good stuff, man. Loved every bit. Leaps and bounds better than the original PS2 version too.

I'm probably gonna start on Muramasa Rebirth and finish up the gallery Dragon's Crown. This game kinda set me on a Vanillaware kick.

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>>381548817
Be sure to also get the dlc characters since they actually play differently unlike Momohime and Kisuke.

>>381549218
That's mainly what I was looking forward to. How long are their campaigns, would you say?

Inventory management isn't fun.

Slowdown made some section unplayable.

>>381549314
They're each 3 bosses long for their first ending, 2nd endings require refighting all the bosses from the momohime and kisuke campaigns and having the item you get after that equipped while fighting the final boss.

>>381549218
Oh man, I'm still missing the last two DLCs. Loved the different gameplay.

Vanillaware game's are top notch. Odin Sphere is a little boring to play after finishing it, but the other games are pretty replayable. Can't wait to see how the new game plays.

>>381549345
The remaster fixes both of those problems

>>381533523
This is easily among my favorite games, heck I even own a physical copy of the PS2 version.

The game is gorgeous, the story nice and the OST amazing too. But I can understand that it's not everyone's cup of tea.

As with any Vanillaware game, they make great stories and stunning visuals but they tend to fall short on the gameplay department as it sometimes tend to become repetitive. That being said, playing this on hard forces you to learn all of the gameplay mechanics or get rekt.

>>381549314
The DLCs are about 2 hours long. The neat thing is you unlock the map at the end, so you can do all the caves and story bosses with each of the DLC characters. It's basically adding another character to the game.

>>381549462
Man, Vanillaware has been on top of the gameplay department since Muramasa. They've only gotten better since there

>>381549452
Last dlc character is insanely broken. She's fun to use despite making everything a cakewalk.

>>381533523
I gladly got the game anyway. But I still really feel like there should have been a Wii U version.
The inventory management/crafting was always my biggest gripe with the original game. Rather than the stuff they actually addressed with the remake.

With the Wii U version you would have been able to manage your inventory and throw together potions as you ran through the levels without actually having to pause your game. There is so damn much pausing in Odin Sphere. I love the game but a second screen could have unironically mitigated this by a lot.

In before
>Wii U
>le Sony hating Nintenbro
because for some reason, wanting it on the Wii U is apparently a sin of some kind in the eyes of some.

>>381549387
Hey it looks like you played a lot of M:R DLCs, I have a question because sometimes I have been wanting to get em. What I liked about muramasa was the weapon tree, I'm a sucker for unlocking lots of weapons.

Do the DLC characters have some sort of weapon tree too? And how big it is?

>>381549686
Well it really isn't out of the question, considering Muramasa was a Wii exclusive, originally

>>381549686
I don't know, man. I don't think having an Ipad in your hand is the best solution to the inventory management in Odin Sphere.

It's just a game design flaw, no real need to fix it by porting it into another console.

>remake made Mercedes actually fun
Surprised the shit out of me.

Still needed either way more content, or shorter stages/stories with less overlap between characters. Or just more character variety. It turns into a chore by the time you're Velvet. Mercedes is a great change of pace in the remake but you're still retreading stages and bosses. You can only defeat the same dragon so many times before there's a total loss of tension, especially when you know he dies at another point in the story.

>>381549387
>>381549532
>>381549657

hell yes. I've already put 100 hours into Odin Sphere with new game plus. I love me some replayability.

>>381549703
They do. It's about half of the main character's tree.

You have 3 skills with all the new characters, and you basically upgrade each skill with the tree.

>>381549703
DLC characters don't have weapon trees, they have upgrade trees. Usually upgrade skills are divided into three types
>basic stat upgrades (like +1 to X)
>equippable accesssory (adds the types of effects you'd usually get from some swords like chance for a hit to 1-shot enemy)
>miscellaneous upgrade which change or add properties to some of your attacks, overall the best upgrades of the three

>>381549849
I wish there were more bullet hell sections with Mercedes

>>381549949
Mercedes was a fun character, now Velvet, I could never get used to her playstyle.

>>381549849
That's the only part I didn't like much about Odin Sphere. Too may recycling of bosses. I wouldn't mind if you played with 2-3 characters, but by the end it really was kinda boring to fight the same guy five times.

Worse yet, you even fight two of the last chapter bosses with two characters before even unlocking the final chapter.

Glad they didn't do that in Muramasa.

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Mercedes and Ingway were best couple

>>381549917
>>381549942
Thank you guys, I will probably get the dlc pack once it goes to sale again.

>>381550172
>I will probably get the dlc pack once it goes to sale again.
Usually the dlc alone doesn't go on sale but rather the game+dlc

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>>381550152
KISS FROG

>>381550172
The DLCs by themselves rarely go on sale though.

I think last time they were on sale was on the game anniversary, I think. Around October

>>381550251
IT'S JUST A FUCKING KISS. Refusing to save the guy's life (especially someone who helped you multiple times) because of muh feelings was pretty stupid.

I wanna' play these games by vanillaware so bad, but i only have pc

>>381534041
Funny, I actually went with Hard, and the game doesn't feel that tedious. Need to beat Cornelius' story still

>>381549218
I always struggle with Gonbei. I can't dodge for shit with him and his bosses are hard as shit in fury mode.

>>381550380
Well then buy a PS4 ya dumby

>>381550396
Gonbei is notoriously harsh in early game, takes until post game for him to start getting the good upgrades.

>>381550343
Frogs do look disgusting in real life though

>>381550152
Where is this from? did they draw more OS?

>>381550380
kind of tough at the moment. Dragon's Crown is for PS3/Vita
Muramasa is for Vita/Wii
Odin Sphere is PS4. (I don't recommend the PS2 one)

No single system to play them all on. sucks.

>>381550529
Actually Odin Sphere is also on the Vita, and the PS3, for that matter

>>381550529
Odin Sphere is on Veetur too

>>381550446
The sumo boss was only one of two that took ne a couple of tries to do, other being Inugami. lack of money and items is also problem.

>>381550529
Odin sphere is also on Vita and PS3

But weren't the characters pretty much the same on the ps2 game? I recall that the characters getting different skills on Leifthrasir

>>381550626
The Alfred Hitchcock first fight fucked me and a lot of people uoy

I liked muramasa better. Ninja fantasy better than high fantasy.

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>>381550510
Nah, just fan stuff, Mercedes is pretty much thinking that though when she sees Ingway for the first time though

>>381550648
The Refined mode gives the gameplay a complete overhaul but keeps everything else

>>381550686
Muramasa is basically Japanese high fantasy though

>>381550686
I Like Muramasa better when it comes to combat. Too much running around though. Souls are mostly useless too. The game gives you way more than you'd ever need

>>381550626
Sumo boss has broken hitboxes, I remember once rolling behind him and still getting fucking grabbed.

>>381550584
>>381550613
>>381550627

Woops. well, there you have it. Vita's the Vanillaware system. Although he should probably just get a PSTV instead right? Unless you really need the portability.

>>381550648
It's not particularly that. The game ran like complete ass at certain fights on the PS2. Couldn't keep up with all the action on screen.
Plus the skill/battle system is much more streamlined in the PS4 one.

>>381550717
I'm not completely sure how the game is different on the newer versions, since I didn't play much after I played through the first character on the newer version.
I just heard that only things that are better are the performance and that different characters have different skills now.

>>381550870
Dude, combat is significantly different. The skill system and alchemy are too. Go back and play the classic mode and then try refined

Never played the original. Story was better than I expected but the gameplay got so repetitive.

>>381550971
I only own the original, I loaned the ps3 one from a library

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>>381548090
They're all great, m8.

Odin Sphere has amazing atmosphere, Muramasa has the coolest combat and Dragon's Crown has that perfect "short bursts of gameplay" cycle to it. All fantastic games.

Dragon's Crown just had one issue. No Miyuki Sawashiro

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>I was only pretending, ignore all those other times I got my shit pushed in

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>>381552974

>>381545232
I loves that game, trapped in a time loop, tricking devils

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Vanillaware games make me way too many screenshots

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>>381552974
>>381553148
Best princess

>>381553447
What was the point of ever going to the Pooka Cafe? The restaurant always gave more xp for the same amount of coins.

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>>381553447
i have over thousand screenshots from OS

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>>381553793
Odette would be best girl if not for Velvet.

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>>381548090
>have no friends
>DC just seems like a clunkier, slower version of the others

>>381533523
Lovely game but why the fuck do I need to beat it to unlock the hard difficulty?
Hope I'm not remember ps2 wrong..

>>381554997
That's definitely not the case in the remaster

>>381548190
Like take care of her and nuture her and feed her my food and make sure she gets a loving husband/wife.

>>381555448
Oh wow sweat
What else did the remaster add?
I was considering buying it since Sony keeps remastering my nostalgia boner lately.

>>381539823
Velvet has whips n' shit and Cornelius is a madman.

>>381554997
You should make one of those hacked memory cards that allows you to copy saves from a USB drive.

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>>381549849
Mercedes was always fun, you pleb.
pop pop watchin niggas drop

>>381548190
I wanna hug her.

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>>381555659
Remaster gameplay is closer to muramasa's gameplay. So if you liked that you'll like it. Now there's no stamina system with normal attacks, your skills either consume POW or PP

>>381555659
Lots and lots of things. Improvements to the combat system and made certain characters actually fun to play. Performance drops are completely gone.

>>381539823
oswald is the best though
especially when you get the skill that lets you force shadow form so you can output ridiculous amounts of damage

finished the valkirye chapter and started the bunny one

pretty good game, love the combat, miss the freedom


Muramasa > Valkirye > Bunny > Dragon Crown

>>381555938
this.

I put all my phozons into Madness and would constantly pop berserk mode. What's great about berserk mode is it stays in effect as long as you don't touch the ground. So I'll end up air juggling mini-bosses to death off one use.

>>381548190

read her a book?

>>381556105
wat? I get ranking Muramasa as itself since Momo and Kisuke play the same but why separate Gwen and Cornelius without separating the different characters in DC?

>>381556332
The gueicha and sasuke play almos the same, is irrelevant to separate then, they play just like the valkirye but with sword powers

to be fair i only played DC with the Sourceress and 2 minutes of the loli elf. i didnt like it very much

>>381556648
DC is the kind of game you need to put some time into and upgrade your characters to enjoy it, especially in the case of magic classes like sorceress and wizard whose biggest damage dealers are their spellbook items you need to spend points to get and upgrade.

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>>381556648
>The gueicha and sasuke
Don't call Kisuke Sasuke when there's another character that plays like an actual ninja in the game, it makes it confusing to know who you're talking about.

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Why was his bossfight such a ballbuster?

>>381556974
oh im sorry

Gueicha and Hiei.

>>381533523

Hard more in the remaster is the same level of difficulty as Easy in the original.

Which is to say, playing on anything less than Hard is not recommended, and it's still far, far too easy.

t. Played the original on Hard.

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>>381557260
and fun fact, said ninja becomes Orochimaru in one of his endings when his body gets snatched by an ancient evil chinese skeleton.

>>381534041

The European version of the game didn't have slowdown.

>>381557434
is he DLC for the vita version right?
i only did the wii version.

>>381557563
Yeah he's dlc like the others in >>381549218

The dlc characters use these weapons
>nekomata with a human, cat and 2 cat monster forms
>poorfag farmer with ghost wife that uses a hoe, sickles and bamboo spear
>previously mentioned ninja with white snek that uses chain and sickle, kunai knives and explosives
>oni loli searching for some artifacts she lost that can change between loli, adult and giant form. Uses an axe, a club and fists

I liked OS a lot more than muramasa, felt like the combat was way too flashy with tons of button mashing

>>381555792
It's a conflicting feeling because if she wasn't in the game, it'd be way too repetitive to be enjoyable. But when you actually encounter that chapter in the game, it feels like you're handicapped.

>>381557939
Original OS did make you think a lot more about your strategy while Muramasa just lent itself to jumping and going crazy since you can just dodge whenever you see an attack coming or abuse I-frames from weapon skills.

>>381558048
She wasn't that bad, I think people that have a hard time with her just upgraded the wrong skills. Her best ones are the reliable low cost bread and butter like the Round shot which is useful for getting some distance between you and the enemy to recharge POW.

>>381557924
>oni loli searching for some artifacts she lost that can change between loli, adult and giant form. Uses an axe, a club and fists
I should add that this route played like one giant homage to Rumiko Takahashi. I haven't expected this feeling from Muramasa of all things

>>381558307
I also got an Urusei Yatsura feeling from her trailer.

All these extra characters look awesome. Can't wait.

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Vanillaware celebrates 15 of existence and some random page is gonna launch a fan book full art based on the games (odin sphere, grim grimoire, princess crown, muramasa, dragon's crown)
The book is hard cover(pic related) and they gonna give you 22 tarot cards based on the games mentioned.
If any of you are fans or want to check here's the link:

http://doujin.tsundereko.com/phozon-artbook-pre-order/

And some video showing the artbook:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5r8nw3

>>381548090
>Dragon's Crown delisted from Europe's Store
ATLUUUUUUSSSSSS!!!

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>>381558307
and Gonbe's design was a homage to this old famicom game about farmers rebelling.

>>381558518
This looks extremely tempting

>>381558518
Only 30 euros?

Damn I'm sold.

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This fairy is too lewd.

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>>381559105
>the way she licks her fingers after eating any food item

>>381559039
Do it fagget because is a fanbook and after that it will be impossible to get later.

Also they already reach the 1st goal(the poster and sketchbook)they gonna add more pages.

>never played PS2 version
>pretty excited for PS4 release
>bought day 1
>have fun
>beat first chapter
>haven't touched it since

why do I do this

I'm playing with mercedes at the moment, damn she is fun but nobody surpasses cornelius yet.

>>381559635
You knew deep down it was going to be a good game. And it is, so get back on and play it again!

>>381559748
Remember, round shot is an early game skill but remains quite useful even by the end because it gives you room to breathe.

>>381533523
Its a fun game but fuck I got burned out on its gameplay by the time I got to play as Mercedes

>>381559635
I'm playing the vita version....

It's looks fantastic on the oled screen.
C'mon anon give another chance and play the game (do in small sessions that's how I'm playing right now)

I wasted a lot of pp as velvet because I always got the urge to summon all the different kinds of small fairies that also shot the enemies.

>>381559796
Slide shot was the shit!

>>381560224
>velvet
meant to say mercedes

I found a good amount of fun in the Xtra Game. (New game plus)

All your levels and upgrades carry over. it's basically your fully decked out character with all abilities vs. hard difficulty. So it all comes down to skill.

S ranking every stage in the boss rush place was fun.

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Which new miniboss was the best and why was it the airship?

>>381553534
More stats.

>>381548190
I would deffo hug the shit out of her.

I would also pet her pussycat

>tfw no Dragon's Crown and Muramasa PS4/PC versions
Come on, George!

>>381561414
>PC versions
Stop baiting faggot.

>>381559635
It's a wonderful game to play in short bursts.
Give it a try again. You'll play for a bit.
I'm just started Mercedes story and stopped for a bit, but this thread is encouraging me to go back.

>>381561008
holy shit I think you misspelled 'worst'

>>381558518
30 euros for a hardcover artbook? That's a steal

>>381561746
All I want these amazing games to be preserved for years. I love Dragon's Crown and it's one of the reasons I still keep my PS3 around but I'd love to see it on current platforms. PC is just perfect for this.

Post moar art

>>381561414
You fags would just pirate it

Get a PS4 and join the rest of the relevant gaming world or go without, it's that simple.

>>381561008
the ice giant

>>381562015
>Get a PS4
Did you read his post? He said PS4/PC
Hell, I'm in the same boat as him. My PS3 died and I never got to play Dragon's Crown.
And I have a VitaTV and haven't even played Muramasa. What the fuck is my problem?

>>381562015
>implying I can play Muramasa or Dragon's Crown on PS4

>>381561008
The biggest problem with the minibosses is that they are often optimized for the skillset of some characters and are significantly more difficult with others.

>>381533523
Like all Vanillaware games it's all style, no substance.

>>381562610
(you)
These are getting rare. Take good care of this

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>>381559635
Deep in your heat, you know you don't enjoy video games anymore.
I know this feel too well

>2017
>still no muramasa on ps4

I'm not buying a shita for one stupid game.

>>381562159
Airship was pretty much hell for me when I fought it with Velvet.

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Why Mercedes is so cute?

Levanthan did nothing wrong.

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Velvet

>>381564437
Really? I thought he was the easiest with Velvet and Mercedes since they have good AoE, it was hell with Oswald though.

>>381550529
looks like the next release of rpcs3 is going to fix the issues on Dragons crown and OS, so I'll say pc.

>>381533523
Since we're having an Odin Sphere thread, how's the PS3 version of leifthrasir? Is it acceptable? It's half the price on amazon which is pretty hard to pass up.

>>381553534
>What was the point of ever going to the Pooka Cafe?
To listen amazing pooka village theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J90bTThtSuU

>>381566679
Yes, it's great. I had some framedrops in some really crowded fights but those were quite rare so nothing gamebreaking.

Will Muramasa Rebirth look good if I use Vita TV and 40" TV?

>>381566997
Great. Then I'm definitely grabbing it, thanks.

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Let us take a moment to appreciate Vanillaware's food porn

>>381567308
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/684034-muramasa-rebirth/70352330
Apparently

>>381567308
I'd imagine. PSTV looks good for all my other games.

>>381568334
Nice, thanks. I just looked up and both Vita and Vita TV are 50$ so I guess I'll go with TV.

>>381568532
Wait
Hold the fuck up
If you can get a Vita for 50, go for the Vita. Not the VitaTV. ESPECIALLY if you can find a Vita with OLED display.

Really have to get back to this. Stopped right after unlocking Oswald

>>381568639
Eh.. But I really want to play Muramasa on my TV.

>>381533523
Sadly it runs like shit on PS2.

>>381568874
I have both and I wish I'd just gotten the PSTV. go for it, it's fine.

>>381533523
the visuals are topnotch, the remake certainly improved the gameplay
the story is a bit over-the-top-dramatic but I liked it plus, it has seibah and gil voices

>>381569001
>it has seibah and gil voices
There's no way that their scenes were anything but intentional.

Can someone explain to me the appeal of Muramasa? The two characters, for the most part, play exactly the fucking same, and most of your time is spent running through empty maps.

>>381568737
he is another crazy combo machine monster as you can abuse his berserk mode forever, as long as you learn to cancel frames and keep moving

>>381569087
yeah, I was laughing like crazy once I recognized them, hell, they even act very similar to the Fate characters

Play the Remake instead. Original sucks

>>381569167
that got fixed with a patch so it is no longer doable