Patch notes for a future TF2 patch http://www.teamfortress.

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TF2 gets updated?

>>381489487
When will they buff Axtinguisher

its the least used pyro melee

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>>381489487
Literally all of these are fine.
The only one I'm disappointed in is the Cleaver change. The Sandman nerf was warranted.

>>381490753
At least three times a year, yeah.
One for Smissmas, one for Scream Fortress, and once for the birthday.

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>>381489487
>Putting team paint on items that were already team-colored

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>>381489487
Update when?

They seem to operate under the banner "if you bitch loud enough we change it"

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>>381491004
Probably shortly after the Summer Sale wraps up. I'd be surprised if it happens before that, though.

>>381490982
muh shades

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>>381490982
You think THAT'S bad

bump we need to discuss this

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>>381492713
jesus christ
>pyro mains

>>381494105
deet deet

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>>381491263

But its my update and I want it now!

bump this is important

>>381493230
This font is worse than comic sans, how do people stand reading this shit?

>>381494713
because it pisses off cunts like you

>>381495021
kek

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>>381494105

>>381496226

Do wolves use their claws? I've nevee seen such thing, fucking furfaggots.

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bump

Does anyone have the leaked jungle update list?

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>>381489487
>Quit TF2 years ago
>Read patch notes
>mfw
If I wanted to play a boring game where everything is nerfed and uninteresting, I'd play league. Enjoy your dead game I guess.

>>381498718
>Don't know shit about the game
>Comment on it anyway
Everything that was changed was done so because at every level of play from gibus pyro to the highest level of play they were either awful or broken, with the exception of the B.A.S.E. Jumper, who's nerf was completely unwarranted.

>>381499124
>Bonk somehow OP
>That eternal reward """"rework"
>Nerf scout triple jump
>Nerf anything fun
I may not have played in the past year or two, but these weapons have been around for sometime. I know enough to know Valve is gutting the fun out of their game.

>>381499124

>was changed

Nothing has been changed yet, they released a potential balance based on shitter crybabies, they will make the changes based on that and the feedback they received after releasing the post.

>>381498718

Fag.

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>>381489487
RIP Dead Ringer

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>D.R unfucked

>>381499276
>Allows you to easily walk through contested zones and backcap/pick medics/snipers
Bonk was broken in 6v6
Eternal reward has always been trash, I'm just glad they didn't forget about it.
There was no reason to use any bat other than the Atomizer in high level play

You don't know anything about this video game, you should probably leave.

>>381499835

>The only thing that matters is my autism circlejerk

Comp is shit boy.

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>>381499276
>he thinks atomizer was balanced

>>381490762
Is it? Their loss.

Powerjack is probably better, but I still find Axtinguisher crits very doable and satisfying.

>>381493230
>Bison still #1 requested change

CHANGE IT BACK VALVE

Reminder that if you don't like the patches you can spam their contact to give them your great ideas

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>>381500569
They also need to change the Baby Face Blaster back.

>>381500147
t. scrub

Cleaver change sucks but the rest are spot on.

If you disagree you can email them.

Still, the natascha needs to be changed.

>>381497068
Only their teeth.

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>>381499276
Atomizer is op
just play soldier against a decent scout using one in mge

>>381499276
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaKaWdkaQVU

>>381501193
>>381500569
Don't forget #1 sword the Claidheamh Mor.

>>381493230
I hope they take into account how many of those people actually know anything about the game.
Shitters have the most uninformed opinions. Just look at /v/.

>>381493230
>spies cucked to death
AHAHAHAHAHAHA 400 SALTY SPY MAINS

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>>381504270
9.5/10 I don't like the jacket

>>381504861
DR deserves it because it's so annoying.
Ambassador change is great for closer to mid ranges. Maybe more spread on first shot is not the best way to stop spies who think they're snipers, but still.
YER change is pretty good. Maybe 50% is too much, but other than that the changes make a lot sense.
Shitters love to cry.

>>381505136
It's 50% faster drain rate not total cloak. So you'll have 7.5s of cloak instead of 10s. YER could be pretty good now.

>>381505287
Oh, you're right.
Doesn't sound so bad at all, honestly.
I used that weapon a lot beacuse I found it a lot of fun, but it became shit as soon as there was a sentry around.

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im still disappointed 99% of the changes were nerfs

while OP weapons arent fun, nerfs dont make the game more interesting either

gunmettle did things right, it retooled so much of the arsenal and made so many things viable again

>>381505454
There weren't many straight up nerfs. Most of them were buffs along with nerfs that made a lot of sense. Plus some reworks.
Also Heavy got a straight up buff to pretty much all his primary weapons.

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Rate my engineers


>>381501193
No the original fucked with the hitboxes.

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>>381493230
>Most requested are the Bison and the Reserve Shooter

do 4chan users actually spend money on TF2?

>>381497068
Do Pyros ever use their secondaries?

>>381506071
kek

>>381506107
Before you could easily make money off the game. Not sure now.

>>381500235
>he thinks the atomizer was useful for actual MELEE like literally every other bat

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>>381507591
>killing anything with scout's melee

>>381507591
Atomizer was broken because you could fight with a triple jump and just dance above your enemies while they can barely touch you.
I don't know what you're even talking about

>>381507701
>having a melee weapon that sucks as a melee weapon
>>381507752
Solution: aim you fucking idiot

>>381507825
>>having a melee weapon that sucks as a melee weapon
Yeah all those heavies using GRU and soldiers using the whip are dumbasses. Fists and shovel are clearly superior.

>>381507825
Because it's not hard enough to aim at a scout with 2 jumps, let's just give him a third so he can completely shit on us!

See >>381502945, shitter-kun.

>>381490753
Frequently.
http://www.teamfortress.com/?tab=updates

>>381508110
>WAAAAH IM TOO RETARDED TO WIGGLE MY MOUSE LEFT AND RIGHT

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The main problem with some of these changes by Valve is that they changed things comp players were complaining about-- like Cleaver, for example-- but didn't change WHAT they were complaining about.

Competitive players didn't care about the Sandman+Cleaver gimmick combo, they disliked it because Cleaver recharges so quickly that it's endlessly spammable. They should have just hit the recharge time with a nerf and left the crit gimmick.

>>381508538
Good post and good argument.
A true shitpost.

>>381508619
sandman/cleaver shit on heavies and was annoying to play against.

>>381506453
yes

>>381509007
Something needs to counter the natascha AKA slow down niggers and be 20% resistance to damage the weapon

>>381509007
It's not like Heavies can't stand to be shit on a bit. It takes more skill for Scout to kill a Heavy than it takes Heavy to kill Scout because the Minigun shits out damage and Heavy's HP is huge.

Also, fun fact, Minigun can stay revved while stunned, so you can fire at Scout the moment the stun wears off. If you have Huo-Long Heater you can even set him on fire while stunned.

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>>381507701
>Not killing EVERYONE with Scout's melee

Heavy is a shitty class that's incredibly unfun to play against. valve needs to nerf its hp down to 275/250 and remove the damage reduction from nat/bb.

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>>381509940
Agree on first point, disagree on second.
Natascha and BB don't need to be nerfed. They're already underused both in competitive and pub play.

However, I would like to see Valve make Heavy slightly quicker while revved, slightly more accurate, quicker to switch weapons upon spinning down, in exchange for going down to 275HP.

I think that would make him less of an unfun stalemate-causing damage sponge, and a more useful offensive class.

>>381509940
>>381510236
He's a very extreme class, just like Engineer. Really strong but really unmobile.
So yeah, he needs some adjustments so he can play alongside other classes in more situations while at the same time not be such a powerhouse.

>>381509530
the festive skins look so stupid

>>381510585
>he needs some adjustments so he can play alongside other classes in more situations

No. GRU was and still is a step in the wrong direction for Heavy. He's supposed to be a class specialized in holding areas, not a versatile class you'd run all the time if you had other options.

>people can't kill heavies

How bad?

>Hop on quick play
>Still dominate everyone with a vanilla scout loadout

I'm perfectly fine with all these changes.

>>381510976
The problem is that he's too specialized. So much that he's never run except in those circumstances when he's actually usful.
The issue is that in those situations the class is actually too good and it becomes annoying and hard to deal with. Even in competitive environments.

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>>381511338
>So much that he's never run except in those circumstances when he's actually usful.
Heavy is a specialist, not a generalist. Not all classes need to be perfectly viable 100% of the time.

>>381509170
natascha is fucking trash dude, it takes so long to rev up and do damage it's worthless.

>>381509236
>and Heavy's HP is huge.
it takes 3 shots to kill a heavy, that's not asking much on a target that has about as much mobility as a tortoise. scout is one of the strongest classes in the game. and let's not forget the other anti heavy weapons like direct hit, loch n load, jarate, milk and the snipers and spies he has to constantly worry about.

>Minigun can stay revved while stunned
What does that matter when you're hitting them with the guillotine?

>>381511053
Its like you've never pushed snakewater last in your life.

>>381509940
>Heavy is a shitty class that's incredibly unfun to play against
Go demo, m1/m2 wow the heavy is dead that took so much effort.

>>381511480
I agree that not all classes need to be 100% viable all the time. But also, the generalis/specialist division only happened because of how the game was initially created as a casual game and competitive balance wasn't a concern at the time.
If the game was made now they would try to make all classes about even in terms of usefulness.
Sure the Heavy can stay as a specialist class, but Sniper is also a specialist but who is useful in many more scenarios and not almost absolutely required in some, like Heavy is.

>>381509236
>It takes more skill for Scout to kill a Heavy than it takes Heavy to kill Scout because the Minigun shits out damage and Heavy's HP is huge.
i used to main both and in almost all cases i could kill a good heavy as a scout a lot more easily than i could kill a good scout as a heavy

>>381493230
WHERE'S THE SOURCE OF THIS SHIT

WHY WOULD THEY LISTEN ONLY TO 1K PLAYERS

>>381511949
It's not an official valve thing its just a poll some dumb redditor did

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>>381511949
they didn't you dumb sack of shit
that's a community run thing
read the message at the top

>>381511704
Or corner peek with a soldier

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I sure get yelled at a lot wearing this

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>>381513205
>black box
disgusting

>>381513352
muh aesthetic

>pyro update still a month away minimum
FUCK

>>381513205

Add the concheror for good measure.

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Are you supporting equality in your 24/7 2fort servers /v/?

>>381514657
Looking at these patch notes and what they said in them I'm glad they are taking the time to do it right.
I hope they can also fix matchmaking and it works like in their other games.

>>381515203
>I'm glad they are taking the time to do it right.
it's been
a whole
fucking
YEAR

>>381515549
You do know this is a 10 year old game and they have a tiny team?

>>381515876
the team size has never changed according to valve
also tf2 still has a playerbase much larger than 90% of games and gets almost no support

>>381516235
>the team size has never changed according to valve
Not true. A bunch of people have moved to Dota 2 or CS:GO. The team now consists of about 15 people, of which 5 or 6 are coders.

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I'd be more upset by the Ambassador changes if I didn't already prefer the stock revolver.

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>>381506453
unless you're spychecking you should be exclusively using your secondaries

>>381516623
I don't know why people aren't more excited for the 50% less spread. That sounds really good on that weapon.
You're not meant to be trying to snipe people from afar anyway.

>>381516532
They never had more than 25 people on the team anyway.

>>381516903
I think it's that it's not going to be totally accurate on the first shot like the other revolvers, it's going to have half the accuracy instead.
It's not like anyone ever got ambassador headshots on purpose anyway.

>>381513205
Can't you get banned for this?

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I HURT MYSELF TODAY

>>381517290
kek

>still no Boston Basher nerf

I am fucking done with this game

>>381516532
I didn't say nobodys ever left the team, just that the team size has stayed the same.

>>381517353
>basher
>op
?????

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>>381517197
It's still supposed to be really accurate at anything other than long range.

>>381517359
Seriously doubt it.

>>381517435
Its a straight upgrade if you don't hit yourself, idiot.

>>381517498
That's still a hell of a lot better than shooting someone across the map for 104 damage when you barely earned it.

>>381517608
>melee hitreg
>consistent
pick one

>>381517630
Yeah, that was the goal of the changes.

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I hope we get some damn good changes for Pyro.

>>381510953
ur face is a festive skin

>>381518475
shut up fag your mom is an australiaum dildo

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>>381516623
I say this would be a good excuse to try something new, babe.

the fucking crash thread is more active than this fucking furfags have won

>>381518352
Well they seem to know how fucked the class is and are finally addressing it.

>>381520091
We had multiple threads hit bump limit after the news first hit. Not much else to talk about, especially about a dead game.