Thougts? Will you like it? Or will the new artstyle/enemy redesigns

>>381487049
The NSMB-ified enemies are disappointing but the rest looks great. I will like it. Looking forward to the remastered OST especially.

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>>381487049
Not even sure why this needed a remake. The original still holds up extremely well even compared to many current JRPG's. The only way I'd interested in this, is if they added more end game content.Can't say I'm a fan of the redesigns either, but that's hardly an issue for me.

Not going to buy it
I already own SS, and nothing I've seen in this remake has impressed me.

Ugh, the 3D models just absolutely kill the game feel of the original. It's not comfy anymore.

>>381487049
I don't like the new art style or enemy redesigns. I'll play it anyway.

inb4 people take the 3d model bait

>>381487049
it's a shame to see what they've done to a few of the enemies but i doubt that'll bother me when i play it, a lot of the new sprites and backgrounds look pretty good. it'll probably be better than the original if it fixes its problems.

>>381487049
Looks great. Don't care about the redesigns.

>>381488916
Did the original have many problems?

Eh, I'm not really feeling motivated enough to get this. I had already played and it's been done and finished. It's nice they added Bowser's Minions into this, which does give us a whole other point of view, but I'm still not that thrilled over the idea.

I honestly think they got to that one point where they know they can't do much else, so they just decide to remake the first game instead. I'm not sure how many rules they have to abide in order to keep the series faithful to what Miyamoto wants, but it seems they're still kinda restricted.

It'll definitely be worth it for the remastered OST, like >>381487462 said, but asides from sprites that clearly needed much improving (the infamous Bowser's sprite work), some others feel like they have less charm to them. Maybe I'm wrong and it's just me trying to check out the current sprites, but at the same time, they look like they blend a bit too much with the background, with barely nothing to make them stand out.

>>381489024
just stuff like tutorials, easy difficulty, soundtrack being ear grading in some areas, and the final two areas of the game (jokes end was boring and monotonous, while bowser's castle felt like it was padded out.)

>>381488530
>Not even sure why this needed a remake.
Because it's a 14 year old game that isn't introduction for a console that also hasn't been in production in a decade

Bowsers Minions looks fun. Wouldn't mind replaying SS alongside

Doubt I'll buy it, I don't usually buy remakes of games I own.

Enemy redesigns kinda bug me but it's a pretty minor issue. /v/ just blows little things like that way out of proportion.

Hopefully people who never played the original will have a good time with this one.

Kinda weird we got a remake of this one before Paper Mario or Mario RPG.

>>381487049
As much as I love this game, I have no idea why they thought a remake was necessary. I replayed the original on GBA earlier this year and it still played great. I suppose seeing it with the newer graphical style is neat, but the remake seems pretty unnecessary.

>>381489692
I would explode if they did a remake of the original paper mario. Think of all the little improvements that could be made that could enhance an already great game

>>381489708
>I have no idea why they thought a remake was necessary.
>I replayed the original on GBA
>GBA
That's why, there's an entire generation that's playing games now that's never held a GBA let alone play it's library

>>381489708
it's probably to give people who never played it before a chance to play it. it's also nice to have all the entries playable on a single system.

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>>381487049
>USA boxart

Oh, sweetie.

>>381488632
>3D models
They're sprites, anon

>>381487049
It needs black outlines

>>381489692
I think the team behind the Mario and Luigi games has stayed as its own unit for a while and generally makes its own decisions while the teams that were behind the other Mario rpgs don't really have that. So I think thats why Superstar Saga is the one being remade.

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>>381489860

why does NoA hate us so

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>>381489214
>ear grating
get ready for the remaster
https://youtu.be/0ppA9Y8AmHM

>>381489860
Is NoA retarded? This is clearly better boxart. Why?

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>>381490309

>>381489860
>>381490220
To be fair for this series the US usually copies what Japan's is. (except for partners in time for some reason)
I don't have an image but I would bet thats the case here.

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>>381490220
>>381490320
It's the price we pay for consistency, I guess.

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>>381490320
And Europe has the best Samus Returns Special Edition. NoA hate us for no fucking reason.

>>381490586
Hiroshima

I thought that the game was not set in the mushroom kingdom, hence why the enemies looked different. Why would they remove that charm?

>>381490586
How much would this cost to import?

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>>381490445

US and EU had a different boxart for SSS as well.

>>381490680
Maybe they wanted be consistent with the other M&L games on the 3DS.

>>381491095
THUNDERRRR

I'm cool with the visuals but it doesn't look like they're adding much that I care about and I doubt they'll make the rebalances the game could use.

I wish Alphadream would either remake Tomato Adventure so it could land worldwide or do a new IP.

>>381491198

jomp

>>381488530
Because it's the only one that can't be played on the 3DS, no GBA game slot. I mean they could put it on virtual console I guess but I certainly don't mind a remake.

And some of the enemies got changed to more normal designs because they obviously reused sprites where they could, big whoop.

>>381490680
>>381490937
Why would the Hammer Bros you fight in Bowser's Castle look any different than the ones you fight in the Mushroom Kingdom? There's no lore or charm reason, AlphaDream was simply left to develop a Mario game for the first time from scratch so they took liberties with the designs, even for characters as established as Bowser.

>>381491095
not even the bros attacks came close looking like that.

>>381491325
I can hear it
hamma

>>381491293
>I wish Alphadream would either remake Tomato Adventure so it could land worldwide or do a new IP.
this
as much as i love the mario & luigi series, i think they should take a break from making them and focus on something entirely new.

>>381487049
I'll probably pirate it. That said, I still haven't finished DT or PJ.

>>381491475
speen

>>381491475
HIGH

>>381489860

>Oh, sweetie

Why is this becoming popular?

Do you have any idea of how much of a stupid fucking retard that someone sounds like when they say this shit?

>>381489935
I'm pretty sure that post was satire.

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i cant wait to see the dance animations remastered

>>381489860
Europe always winning the fights that truly matter! R-Right?

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>>381487049
The few enemies being restyled to their current NSMB style is a big bummer, AlphaDream did a great job making them look very different from their Mushroom Kingdom counterparts, further selling the oddness of the BeanBean Kingdom. Goodbye, radical lanky Boomerang Bro. Also, it looks like they slightly changed how advanced bro moves work and I'm not sure if I like it.
But other than that I'm hyped. The game looks absolutely gorgeous, especially now that they went back to detailed 2D backgrounds instead of 3D rendered environments, and the redone sprite animations are fucking top notch as expected. The one thing I want is them to make the game not as easily broken, you can easily cheese your way through the game and with the recent games being tougher than the old games I'm hoping they'll adjust the difficulty level accordingly.

>>381487049
>remaking bowletta

MY DICK

>>381491842
You can see Zelda milkies playing the game here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSdN1T83v64

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>yfw they keep the ballbusting

>>381491746
That's the point of that meme.

>>381491095
THIS. IS. THE. SHIT.
SS has the best Bros. attacks. You can turn Mario into a ball to solve puzzles in overworld? You can also use it in battles. No stupid kites, no stupid rockets, no stupid paddles. You use a Bros. attack a lot? Mario comes up with a advanced version.

>>381487049
Holy shit when did this happen thats the second best GBA game

>>381487049
The minion battles look fun. I won't buy it since I already played through the original so many times, but I am looking forward to hearing the remastered music.

>>381491746
They use it like one would when talking with a child to try and help the child understand what's being said. Using it in this context is meant to give an air of childishness or inferiority to the one being talked to in that way.

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>>381492043

E3

>>381492026

shitposting memes that are bad to be bad are still fucking cancer

>>381491731
WOOHOOHOO

>>381491939
>AlphaDream gave them new jump animations
The fucking madmen

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>>381491863
Dunno what you are talking about. We don't have any kind of problems here.

>>381492043
E3 nigga. They fought Hoohooros during the stream, the game looks gorgeous and they reanimated Mario and Luigi's original dancing idle animation and it looks great
>>381491939

>>381492043
>second best GBA game
What's the first best? Wario Land 4 or something?

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>>381492126

I understand why people are using, It's still stupid.

>>381491746
If you want a quick run down, it's a /pol/ meme. There was this lady that kept making a bunch of condescending tweets to literally everything Donald Trump tweeted and /pol/ started to use it ironically and like 50 other memes this year it's leaked to the rest of 4chan.

>>381492317

Not that anon but you have great taste, my dear friend.

>>381490309
I'm not sure I want to play it anymore now that I remember jokes end

>>381492317
wario land 4 is pretty great but no Megaman Battle Network 3

>>381492753
I replayed SS last year, and honestly it wasn't as bad as I remembered.

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>add a post game superboss fight
>it's starlow

>yfw they're going to add the usual arena meaning harder versions of all the bosses
>>381493232
>implying it won't be Stuffwell
BACK TO ADVENTURE!

>>381493232
>you can beat that bitch's ass

How is that a bad thing?

>>381493192
I'm sure it wouldnt be this actually came at the perfect time Ive been replaying my emulators and I found out I was still in stardust fields then I remember the pc controls are terrible.

>>381492317
Boktai

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>>381493232
>>381493491

>post game superboss
>it's Bowser's Minions
>and vise versa

>>381493232
>The "Reward" for winning is her joining you again.

>>381493232
>>381493491
it'll be stuffwell and starlow on their time travel honeymoon

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>>381493738

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>>381493232
>Starlow comes back in any way or form in this game

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>>381493232
>>381493491
It's going to be the Shroob sisters.

>>381493968
We already had a hidden Shroob fight in BiS

>>381493968
Fuck Shroobs

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>Koopalings won't be mute
>they will have dialogue
>and probably be more than just a boss rush if not at least a better boss rush

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They better not add any tutorials

>>381495414
they don't need to
the game was already loaded with them
dumb /pol/ poster

>>381495414
There will probably be "Hold R to fast forward" like in Paper Jam

>>381495414
You can fast-forward dialogue with R like in Paper Jam.

>>381495530
Fuck off back to tumblr, faggot

>>381495530
They can always add more. Never been to /pol/ either, nigger.

>>381495748
>>381495842
hahaha look at this two pol users literally got triggered into replying

>>381495953
ironic

>>381495145
The Koopalings were great in Paper Jam, so I wouldn't mind.

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>>381495953
>anything that doesn't suck sjw dick is /pol/
how new are you?
do you realize what website you're using?

Test

I just want confirmation Starlow is nowhere to be found, and then I'm in.

apparently people can't handle change and it triggers their inner autism

>>381491352
Yeah, but by changing them you remove the personality they were portraying. They looked bulkier and fiercer than your typical Hammer Bro in the original, it's pretty boring that they're just run of the mill stock in appearance now.

>>381487049
I like the backgrounds, but I don't like a lot of the characters sprites/redesigns.

I'll probably give it a pirate.

>>381493105
mah nigga

>>381495414
Been a few years but didn't the game at least give you the option to say no for most of the tutorials that came about? That's not really a bad thing if so. If a game has tutorials I'd rather they ask me or make them optional side content than force them at every turn.

>Tfw afraid they'll ruin it to the point of it being Dream Team and Paper Jam tier

>>381497756
>it's pretty boring that they're just run of the mill stock in appearance now.
It's a stopgap budget game at the end of the 3DS' lifecycle, if they have reusable assets available, they're definitely going to use them. It doesn't make a grand difference because the 100% unique enemies which they have no assets for and have to make new sprites for, like we've already seen with the Fuzzbush.

>>381498409
Dream Team was great though!
it had excellent boss fights, music, visuals, and tons of character!

>>381498596
i don't know if this was your intention, but you sound like a marketer, anon

>>381498596
Dream Team was trash. Giant battles sucked, the endless tutorials that couldn't be skipped sucked, the gyro Bros. moves sucked.

/v/ memed me into buying it because "OMG IT'S AS GOOD AS SUPERSTAR SAGA!" Fuck you faggots.

>>381498737
Dream Team is definitely above OK, pacing would be less ass if there were less tutorials

>>381498691
i'm not a marketer, i just really love dream team as it's my second favourite in the series.
>>381498737
no need to be rude about it

>>381498737
lolwut dream team was always dropped to one of the last two games alongside PIT with every anon's tier list right at release

>>381498596
Yeah, but the beggining was awful. You had to force youself to just get to the good part.

>>381498054
This thread has very good taste

>>381498054
And I say that having just replayed it

>>381493968
>Implying it won't be Bowser & Bowser Jr. using their own Bro Attack equivalents
>Implying, at the very least The bonus boss won't have Bro Attack equivalents

I can't wait for this game.

I remember my dad taking me to best buy and surprising me by letting me get a GBA and Gamecube game. I chose SSS and the Game Boy Player instead of a game, and I have such great memories of playing through it with him.

>>381499336
playing SSS with two controllers is an experience I wish i had, might be fun to team up with a buddy or family member

>>381499459
Couldn't be worse than a keyboard

>>381499459
I actually did play 2 player with my dad, you just had to plug in 2 controllers and Player 2 would just control Luigi with B.

>>381498691
Not that guy, but Dream team is very good.

Strictly speaking in terms of gameplay:
Paper Jam > Dream team = Superstar Saga = Bowser's inside Story > PiT

Overall game:
Dream team = Bowser's Inside Story > Superstar Saga = Paper Jam > Partners in time.

People have way too much nostalgia for SSS, and I say this as someone who replays the game once a year. All people ever bring up is muh bros moves m-muh bros moves. SSS is embarrassingly easy and there's a ton of annoying areas like woohoo university. All that being said, SSS is still a 10/10 game.

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>mfw thinking of all the remixes we're about to get

>>381499920
That sounds about right, but I'd say:

DT > SSS > BIS > PiT > PJ

PJ wasted top tier gameplay with the worst presentation in the series and too fucking many filler minigames, and is the one game that I'll never replay.

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>>381500060

>Joke's End remix is even more grating on purpose

>>381500060
Will they reuse Paper Jam's remix of the Normal Battle theme?
https://youtu.be/CPO3M6BZyoY

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>>381500218
thats in man

>>381500060
I can't wait to hear these specifically:

https://youtu.be/xsjmjvtjTOU

https://youtu.be/w_ZJCvqhCrE

https://youtu.be/5eQu22Mwwn4

https://youtu.be/29__RHebRww

https://youtu.be/jcCJP35uIEg

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>>381492317
>>381493105
>The taste in this thread

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>>381493105
holy shit anon your taste is so fucking good

>>381491971
>>381490680
Have they actually shown ones that were replaced in design in the original spot? It seems that "Bowser's Minions" would be more likely to have normal versions instead of regional variants like Troopea since they are Mushroom Kingdom natives.

>>381500148
>PJ wasted top tier gameplay with the worst presentation in the series and too fucking many filler minigames, and is the one game that I'll never replay.
Yeah, I was really disappointed in terms of characters, music, and setting. But at the end of the day, the game itself was extremely fun and it makes me angry that we will never get 3/4 player party again because people are too fucking dumb. .

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G O T Y
O_O
T___T
Y____Y

>>381492034
FUUUUUUCK YES

Why did the series move towards a boring ass "kick the shell" minigame? Having the bros helicopter hammer enemies was the shit!

>>381501716
>>381490680
I think the enemies were redesigned for a number of reasons:
>To work well with Minion Quest
>To economize on sprites
>Consistency
>(Entering speculative territory) Sunshine was the latest game at the time and that had more "out there" enemy designs compared to the games both before and after.
>If one REALLY wants to stretch it, the game is also a callback to the Mario series at that point so quadrapedal Koopas and Dry Bones could be excused like that.

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>>381501716

Troopeas and Lakipeas were shown in the Bowser's Minions demo. They were edits of existing sprites.

Tanoombas will probably be based on the 3D Land version, as seen here.

>>381502406
Tanoombas appeared in Paper Jam if I remember correctly.

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>>381491746
It's becoming popular because it pisses you off.
If you ignore it, it won't spread.

>Dream Team is a bad ga-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpn1x_OILHE

>>381501795
Partners in Time's execution of 4-man team was inconvenient as hell.

>>381495414
The original game had tutorials.
But fear not, the tutorials are actually being REMOVED. It's going to be Sticker Star style now, where everything goes fucking quick and if you want a more in-depth tutorial you can find them in the menu.

>>381502661
It absolutely was not. I'm sorry you have terrible fingers and a slow brain.

>3d models
ugh
why does nintendo hate 2d now?

>>381502406
>>381502520
That's a Big Tail Goomba, not a Tanoomba.

>>381502632
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B43bXrRVPFE

>>381502880
This bait is getting old.

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381502880
I know your game.
No (you) for you

>>381502892

It's a Goomba with a Tanooki tail. Same shit.

>>381502406
>>381502892
I forget, did Big Tail Goombas & Tanoombas behave the same in Paper Jam? Because if not I could see Big Tail Goombas being separate from Tanoombas for this remake.

>>381502908
I think it's about time I replay Dream Team, so many people shit on it but I still adored it.

>>381503474
Big Tail Goombas were giant enemies.

>>381503474
Big Tail Goombas appeared in Dream Team and then in Paper Jam but I think they had different movesets between both games. They didn't attack like Tanoombas at all.

Also they're fucking huge, AlphaDream can't really reuse the sprite and call them "Tanoombas" without awkwardly resizing it and even then they lack the Tanoomba leaf

>>381502981
>>381502880

i'm still mad about Paper Jam being as bland as humanly possible instead of autistic fanfiction tier crossover like i wanted

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>>381503932
>>381502981

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>They add in a superboss
>It's Prince Peasley
>He attacks with hard-to-dodge sword slashes and charges at the bros with his winged bean
>He turns the screen white with his hair tussle during your Bros Attacks so you can't see
>He uses beanstar pieces like a starman to become temporarily invincible
>He does his hair tussle to blind you, then attacks while you can't see
>yfw

>>381503881
Who says they can't have both?

>>381504160
>Implying that's how fights worked in SSS
Here, let me revamp it for you to be more in line of SSS.
>When Peasely attacks, he has dialogue saying, "CAREFUL, MUSTACHE" Mustache is either highlighted green or red.
>if he flips his hair beforehand, it's the opposite brother's color.
There. That's the entire fight.

>>381504418
If they wanted to make it actually challenging, they could incorporate his hair flip so you can only rely on your own timing to dodge his attacks. Unfortunately, they'd probably never do that