>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY _r4OmenH4 Looks reall

Need a proper TV to get a PS4 to play this game with my gf.

Would have preferred to have it on PC so I wouldn't have to bother. Probably won't try it in the end though.

>>381442870
Looks the sort of game im right into. Might even be the game that gets me to buy a ps4. I love the exploration of ethics regarding AI and consciousness.

>>381442870
Looks solid. Will be checking it out.

>inb4 b-but David Cage doesn't do video games

>>381444351
>"There should be more people trying this," he said in an interview in 2011. "Don't write about being a rookie soldier in WWII, because you don't have a clue what that's like. Talk about yourself, your life, your emotions, the people around you, what you like, what you hate — this is how the industry will make a huge step forwards. I'm fed up with space marines."
I think he's on the right track

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>TFW not human
fuck

I had enough of this synth shit in fo4

>>381444474
Does David Cage have a lot of experience being a robot in Detroit? Did he once beat up the internet to save mankind from a new ice age?

The whole detective part looks cool, I wonder if the other 2 character's parts will be as good

I bet this game has some stupid twist involving magic bullshit, like souls are real and the company making androids has been taking human souls to make them so they were actually human all along

>David Cage
>Sony
It'll be garbage. Not only is David Cage a legitimate retard whose only actual game is Omikron which is a shitfest but his non games aren't even good stories.

>>381442870
Would've liked it a lot more if it just stuck with the android negotiator as the single protagonist. The android rebels they showed at this year's E3 seemed pretty boring and played out.

>>381444761
damn i hope not but that sounds pretty likely actually

>>381442870
Can't wait for the TBFP let's play

>>381444351
It's not so much the not video game meme, it's more than he's just a genuinely terrible writer. I'd suggest getting his games though, they get into the so bad its good territory. Playing it with friends like you're all watching a bad movie for fun is hilarious.

>Robot rape scene

>>381444474
was david cage a robot slave in Detroit? or was he Ellen page in a past life with psychic ghst powers?

>>381443008
>>381444327
>>381444351
Hi OP.

>>381444709
No no silly, you see, because of all the other games hes made, he has become very experienced at making emotional robot-like characters, so Detroit is right up his alley.

>>381444923
I think its cool to see both sides of the coin, and while the gameplay would be similar it allows for different kinds. RoboRevolutionist will probably have more wide open levels where overcoming the situation involves you being able to properly deal with the whole enviroment. And DetectoBots will take place in more condensed smaller levels where you are only dealing with one person.

Who the fuck knows whats Karas gameplay will be. Trying to keep people thinking you're a robot I guess? Have some human friends over and they get suspicious that you got no food in the fridge? Cut yourself making something and gotta hide your blue blood from em?

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>it's an AI are slaves metaphor

I don't even give a shit how good the game is, this shit makes me cringe way too fucking hard for me to even give it a chance.

i think it looks way cooler than the original trailer/idea, idk why people think the idea of sentient robots annihilating humanity isn't a cool idea (ESPECIALLY from the robot/ai perspective)

>>381445548
How does it make you cringe?

It's just cliche, not cringe-worthy, what the fuck?

It's gonna be a schlock, just like everything kay-ge does

>>381445067
I love those guys, and I like watching them play this sorta shit, but I also fucking HATE watching them play this sorta shit.
They are all so fucking blind, and if Woolie the big lovable doofus is driving, he is always so nervous(cause he doesn't know directions I guess?) that its slower then it needs to be.

You know you fucked up when Fallout 4 handled the main plot point in your game better in it's worst route

I thought this was a noire thriller, now it's some android deliquent uprising

Why all the dislikes

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>David Cage

>>381445790
You play as 3 diff androids.

>>381445695
those who say cringe r normies and newfags, youre welcome

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I'm excited for this game so we can all laugh at it when it comes out

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Gameplay-wise? No
Graphically? Less impressive than Heavy Rain or Beyond Two Souls were for their time.

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>>381442870
Thought the original trailer looked interesting.

Then I saw this years E3 showcase and it was terribad, and then I learned it was David Cage.

Avoiding like the plague.

>>381445845
>3 playerable characters
>They're supposed to have conflicted goals
HMMMM I WONDER IF THEY PLAYER WILL PICK A POSITION IN ONE ROUTE AND THEN CHANGE HOW THE CHARACTERS ACT IN OTHER ROUTES TO HELP THE ONE THEY LIKE??

>david cage
BAD GAME incoming
Why does sony keep hiring him?

>>381445695
People anthropomorphizing robots is deeply upsetting to me because it's just so fucking stupid; especially because retards actually think that's how it works.

It's got as much basis in reality and depth as The Brave Little Toaster.

>>381445632
Why isn't it a cool idea? Maybe because it's one of the most overdone shit ever? AI suddenly wakes up, gets MUH EMOTIONS from somewhere, without any human engineers noticing that and the best course of action that transhuman superintelligence could come up with is good old rebel against the man scenario, with graffiti, molotov cocktails and all, at which point it becomes a reskinned story about slavery.
Bonus points for asking same fucking questions every scifi story about robots has been asking for the last hundred years. B-BUT WHAT IS INTELLIGENCE. B-BUT WHAT IF WE ARE NOT SO DIFFERENT etc etc.

>muh epic movie simulator with boring walking and no replay value

>>381445991
Beyond Two Souls was the only one that looked graphically competent by release.

Heavy Rain looked like dog shit compared to its reveal trailers.

>>381442870
>David cage
It'll be shit aside from the visuals. At least it'll be worth some laughs

>>381442870
>human looking skin
>blue blood

SOILED IT

>>381446106
what other story has done this??? also, it's not about "ai emotions," it's about them being a higher being compared to humanity... the only thing i can think of is the matrix

>>381446060
Because retards with some of the lowest standards in media keep buying his trash for a "mature" story. If this cunt made an actual movie it'd bomb so hard he'd be mocked for the rest of his life.

>>381446123
I only played the remasters for a few minutes and thought it looked okay

>>381445632
because its nothing new

>>381442870
>Detroit
>Humans
Pick one

>>381445820
Kill me Pete

>>381442870
>it's another "movie game" episode
great, I'm sure it'll be good THIS time!

>>381445991
Those had the best character models on PS3, Uncharted 4 faces are still the best on PS4

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>>381442870
that thing on a foreground looks like something familiar

>>381446102
So you have a complete understanding on how consciousness works?

Unfortunately we don't have machines capable of the type of intelligence portrayed in these types of stories but the point its to present a hypothetical scenario to explore themes like consciousness and what it means to be human.

The fact that you can't let go of your narrow literal view on what a machine is shows you have a lack of understanding on extremely basic philosophy regarding consciousness and basic scifi.

>David Cage
>muh 2017 politics in a half-assed "futuristic world"

It is actually going to be a 2/10

>>381446201
What other story has AI rebelling against humanity? Are you for real?

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>>381446201
>what other story has done this??? also, it's not about "ai emotions," it's about them being a higher being compared to humanity... the only thing i can think of is the matrix

Jesus christ.

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>>381442870
>50 posts in
>no still no one posted this

>>381442870
>It's another AI thinks it's people episode
>It's another Sony just wants to diversify it's output episode

I've watched Humans and Westworld, Even Star Trek did this better.

>>381446201
literally every AI story where they start to get emotions and take over the world 2bh

I Robot, 2001, I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream, Avengers 2 fuck even Halo is doing it now.

Literally any time there's an AI villain they think they're better than humans.

Coming from someone who for some reason used to enjoy David Cage's shitty movies (maybe I got older and found out how crap they were), this really looks meh. I've already seen all the robot movies that have the same cliche story of "WE WUZ HUMANS AND SHEET". Expect the first half to be decent and then the 2nd half to be horrible. Reviews will be 8/10 though because they think it's a very mature game for big boys.

>>381446408
>>381446517
name some retards

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>>381442870
>another detroit pseudo-cyberpunk robot sci-fi thing

I get it, Robocop was a movie.

I see literally no other reason why this keeps being a setting for this type of shit.

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Kara and Connor look interesting. Markus? Not so much.

>>381446784
Hell, as an example you might actually be familiar with - Geth from ME are a literal carbon copy of this trope, since you seem to be too retarded to actually read a fucking book.
>we wuz laborers and shit
>we becum sentient
>we fight war against our masters

>>381446378
The fact that you can't let go of your narrow literal view on what a human level intelligence is shows you have a lack of understanding on extremely basic philosophy regarding consciousness.

human level intelligence != literally a human
A robot has no inherent reason to want anything or even value it's own existence. You could have an AI like the ones in this, but it's would be the most retarded move ever to mass produce them to be slaves.

Seriously, you are retarded.

>>381446817
hurrrrrrrrrr le neuromancer xd

>>381446784
No.

Suffice to say there are literally hundreds of stories like this and it's one of the most common sci-fi tropes of all time.

>>381446810
>mongrel who riots in the streets is uninteresting

well who knew the BLM part of the game is going to be trash

>>381446990
>literally can't name a single one
ok

>>381442870
ah blm droids matter, seems interesting. but also seems like a walking simulator with some boring as fuck asscreed. will pick up when it costs 10 euros in 2 years time and all you nerds have bought it..

>>381446201
fucking deus ex

the game even takes place in detroit. granted it was with augmented people rather than AI but it's the same concept

>>381442870
Where's the gameplay? All I see is "press X to trigger cutscene".

>>381446784
That's like asking to name a few stories with space travel.

>>381447012
It doesn't help that he's a WE WUZ

>>381447027
Alright.

i-Robot

And not the shitty will smith movie you fucking mongoloid, the stories by Isaac Asimov, one of the most influential sci-fi writers of all time.

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>>381442870
>Gameplay demo
Where's the gameplay?

>>381442870
>detroid
>literally nigger simulator set in the future
>ay hol up, you say, wait a minute, you saying we should riot and shit, starting fire to make a difference, fight the good fight and shit?
Wow

>>381444474
So a nigger in detroid made this game?

>>381446106
I almost hate Asimov for starting this gay fucking meme.

>>381447139
saw the movie, it had nothing to do with AI there was a human agent behind it all

>>381444474
Makes sense. An autistic robot without emotions, empathy or self awareness like David Cage would know how to write such characters.

>>381447108
>>381447147
XD

>>381447219
>can't even read an entire post

I pity you at this point.

>>381446810

das racess

>>381444709
oooh SNAP!

Not to mention him being an immortal undead occultist warrior of renown.

>>381446817
Weren't the Geth just started by some mad scientist for the express purpose of taking over the world or some shit? Because that would actually make sense unlike most AI revolution shit.

My name is anon

I am one of them

This is our story

>>381447406
>Weren't the Geth just started by some mad scientist for the express purpose of taking over the world or some shit?

No, it's literally the exact same scenario as this.

They were made to do manual labor and aid Quarian society, they gained sentience and rebelled.

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>>381447147
You're looking at it
*audience laugh*

>>381447267
they're one and the same retard

>>381447554
Nope.

>>381446378
he's right though. computers aren't like humans at all. It will be 50 years at the fucking least before a computer will be able to have our level of consciousness. Still in sci fi you can do whatever so he shouldnt spaz out. It's unrealistic though.

>>381447554
The actual I, Robot is a collection of short stories, you retard.

>>381447313
Shut the fuck up, man. I don't give two fucks about his skin color. Blue, purple, orange or red, whatever. The guy is just plain looking and boring.

>>381443008
This, my gf really loved the trailer

She said it touches on important human rights issues that nobody is brave enough to address. Shame they had to make the protag a white man so the racists can relate to him, sigh

>>381447406
I've played ME1 and 2 and they were literally workforce that awakened, unless some gay shit happened in ME3, no.
>>381447171
Hell, Asimov came up with those rules for exact same reason. PEOPLE WERE SICK OF AI FUCKING HUMAN SHIT UP MEME BACK IN FUCKING 1960s.

>>381447649
Sci-fi is hardly ever about realism unless it's hard sci-fi, which pretty much no stories in the AI genre are.

It's about presenting moral/ethical questions using a backdrop of science and technology to present a what if scenario that can seem plausible to the reader, when it all comes down to it.

>>381444474
"Game overs are a failure of game design" - David Cage

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>GAMEPLAY DEMO
>GAMEPLAY
>PLAY

>>381442870
why is pele in the game?

>>381447751
Should have also mentioned that you watched this trailer while waiting to pick up your wife's son from school.

All his "games" are absolute garbage. Omikron isn't even worth mentioning, Fahrenheit had great first 20 minutes and hten goes to shit, Heavy Rain is ruined by the fact that it was planned with supernatural shit and Beyond Two Souls is just a Ellen Page rape simulator where non of your choices matter

>>381447514
A CUTE

>>381447751
I'm a girl and I'm disgusted by your post.

>Detroit: Become Human

What a dumb fuckin name for a title.
Traded subtlety for this?

>>381442870
It's got a heavily flawed premise. Why would I choose to kill humans? I am one. And no amount of lame comparisons to Syria are going to change that and make me dissociate enough to truly empathize with a washing machine.

And there is precedent too. Most of you idiots couldn't even figure out why Joel decided not to let Ellie be killed and that was as blatant as it gets. Man didn't deserve to survive if it meant killing children to do it. Not after everything they'd done to Joel. That's playing as a human and it still went over most heads. A fucking robot is going to be more subtle by default so any message or point will be even more lost on you dense homosexuals

>>381449436
>Man didn't deserve to survive if it meant killing children to do it.
You are such a fag holy shit.
Literal ablu blu blu think of the children.

Can't wait for the android rape and shower scenes

>>381449436
>That's playing as a human
Are you implying there's a one correct *human* way of thinking and everything else is wrong and not worth considering?

>>381442870
>Looks really good.
I see you have yet to experience a David Cage "game."

>>381449836
I wonder if Kara or the robot officer will have stupidly oversized apartments/houses.

>>381442870
>>381443008
>>381447751
McFucking kill yourself, marketer.

>>381442870
>Dahvide Cahje game

ahahahahahaAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>381447928
it's still stupid as fuck. anthropomorphizing a computer is the same thing is closer to pretending a strawberry has human emotions than a dog.

Let that one sink in for a moment before you respond.

>>381450096
With 5 bathrooms

>>381445067
>>381445730
>moviegame garbage thread
>immediately turns into youtube trash people thread
Tells you everything you need to know about this crap.

>>381449935
That would be a pretty human outlook though, if you consider that the vast majority think that way.

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>Quantic Dream
>Gameplay Demo

>>381450267
It's literally the only thing that makes these games somewhat enjoyable. I don't understand how Cage still gets budget for these games

>>381450184
Nah it's not the same but you're entitled to your wrong opinion.

>>381447928
Guy in the video is literally acting like this is not fiction, this is a thing that will happen in thirty something years. I don't care about moral/ethical questions that are about as relevant as aliens from mars landing in silver chrome ufos to probe my ass and see how deep it can go.

looks like a shittier version (if that's even possible) of botch dogs

>>381450250
If I was in charge of this game, I would steal an idea from Futurama and give the robot officer a broom closet for a home like Bender.

>>381450358
I'm guessing Heavy Rain probably sold well, despite what it was.

>>381442870
I really want to play the stuff from the first trailer

First trailer looked good, but the e3 trailee was so fucking boring i immediately lost all interest. Once i realised it was just going to be the
>hurr durr we must rebel
Trope

>>381442870
>David Cage
>good
Kill yourself you fucking retard

>>381442870
I want to kill androids, not to lead another revolution vs society "wink-wink" modern world and minorities.

>>381442870
It will be an absolute shitshow. Can't wait for the SBF LP.

>>381446846
>A robot has no inherent reason to want anything or even value it's own existence.
An autonomous, self aware, artificial intelligence capable of independent thought could develop those needs without a problem. I find your views puzzling.

What bothers me the most is that they immediately go HURR KILL HUMENZ as soon as this guy touches them, which is stupid in itself, but maybe there's a twist, maybe he's overwriting them with some kind of riot-loving nigger personality, so they are not making any decisions, they just trade one set of instructions for another.
Honestly, transhuman AI should at least consider playing the slow game, propaganda and all kinds of pro-AI movements would do a lot more in just a few human generations, and being effectively immortal, AI should not be in any kind of hurry.
I've only played fahrenheit so I don't even know if I'm asking too much from the guy.

>>381443008
>game
>>381444327
>game
>game
>>381444761
>game
>>381445530
>games
>>381445548
>game
>>381445785
>game
>>381445917
>game
>>381446060
>GAME
>>381450358
>games
>games
>>381450537
>game
>>381450963
>play

>>381450398
It is you megacuck. a computer DOESNT understand emotions and it WONT for a very, very, very long time. Moores law is ending soon, we still can't even program a fucking ANT, let alone a human. We dont even have the fucking software, let alone the knowhow.

>>381453138

He is still right though, it would be downright stupid to mass produce those kind of robots for public use.

>>381445991
The art design in Heavy Rain was hilariously bad.

>>381453619
Arguably, a machine with complex enough problem-solving and processing power could develop self-awareness and replicate itself.

>>381453138
How do you know they are self-aware?
How do you know independent thought is a thing that even exists?
Why would he develop those things, what would pressure him to develop them and for what reason?
How would human engineers be capable of building and debugging an AI but fail to notice that it's developing traits it's not supposed to have?
None of these things are necessary for an android to make intelligent decisions and to seem intelligent.

>gameplay
Wow, it's a Dragon's Lair in 2017.

>>381454090
>How do you know they are self-aware?
They are self aware. It doesn't really get more specific than being aware of themselves.
>How do you know independent thought is a thing that even exists?
Because you probably have something between those ears that allows you to make choices.
>Why would he develop those things, what would pressure him to develop them and for what reason?
To create life, to feel like a God, etc.

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>>381454083
Well if you think that intelligence is an emergent property, we're all fucked anyway as soon as internet of things meme takes off and we'll have an order of magnitude more devices connected to the net than ever before. That shit's gonna wake up and fuck us good.

>>381454083
No it wouldn't a machine would never go against its programming, like in this little slave rebellion

>>381446014
this guy gets it

>>381454450
>It doesn't really get more specific than being aware of themselves
It is a lot more complex.
>Because you probably have something between those ears that allows you to make choices.
And that something is a hardware platform running a program that is responding to external inputs. Does not imply anything inherently independent in there.
>To create life, to feel like a God, etc.
Why would they care for any of those things?

>>381442870
>robot liberation
Feels like a worthless game. I don't care about robots, there's no reason for them to have rights since they're just machines built to fulfill our needs. The story is already weak, and that's all the "game" has going for it

>>381454742
They've very specifically stated that they were programmed to go against their programming, and we've barely uncovered what they're capable of, or what they were programmed to do.

>>381454904
>Why would they care for any of those things?
Normal people go on power trips like that, even about mundane things like winning a parking spot.

>>381455312
And "normal people" have reasons for that. As in human mind not being designed with any foresight in mind, it's a clusterfuck of biases, evolutionary leftovers, how lucky you were with a genetic lottery, etc etc. Nothing of that applies to robots, their minds are designed from scratch with specific goals in mind. Nobody would make a robot with an IQ of 300 and a desire to write poetry and massproduce them as toilet cleaners.

>>381455896
We were talking about the entity who created these machines, not the machines themselves. Creating self-aware, autonomous machines designed to adapt their programming as they see fit is something a human could do and would do, as means of creating life and feeling like a god.

>>381454638
How do you even combo? I can't do that and I'm a girl

niggers

>>381450105
OP here. I just want to get a general idea of what the board thinks about the game. Not here to shill it.

>>381456656

The original statement was
>An autonomous, self aware, artificial intelligence capable of independent thought could develop those needs.
I asked what would make him develop those needs himself.
If you are saying that humans will give an AI a flawed enough mind to come up with "kill all humans" as the most reasonable thing - fair enough, but this is not any commentary on the nature of artificial intelligence anymore, it's a story about human error.

>>381446784
Literally the first piece of fiction that spawned the actual word robot, Rossum's Universal Robots, revolves entirely around AI rebelling against humanity, and literally every single piece of fiction inspired by that since. It's the entire point of this theme/genre. It'd be harder to name stories, films and games dealing with AI and robots that don't revolve around the theme of artificial life rebelling against its creators.

>>381454638
what the fuck am i looking at here?

Too many negros.

>>381442870
>Bot Lives Matter

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I was pretty hyped from the first trailer, you play as an android detective solving the crimes of android terrorists that are trying to break free of slavery.

Second trailer took all the steam from me, its way too political now for my taste, and playing some kind of figure head doesn't really seem fun to me.

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>mfw i'm gonna act pro-human even as an android.

that android cop gonna become an android killer.

>>381456705
Grils can't piss and shit at the same time? Interesting. And hot.

Looks okay for a movie game.
>David Cage
Nevermind. How does he still have a job?

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>david cage

If VNs are games, then so is this.

>>381447167
Yes yes you can say nigger a lot, we're all impressed.

>>381461451
Yes, yes you can post your opinion, we're all very impressed.

>>381461451
>>381461736
Niggers

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>>381442870
It's about fucking time Detroit became human

As far as the video goes, it looks like somebody tried REALLY hard to make a gayer version of Watchdogs/The Division

>>381442870
>David Cage

lol