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>make a big map >fill it with 900 korok seeds since you

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>make a big map

>fill it with 900 korok seeds since you aren't creative enough to fill it with interesting stuff.

Why developers get away with this.
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>>381440214

*?
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>make a thread on /v/

>it's another zelda shit post
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>>381440412

Nintendi pls
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>>381440214
>hey there seems to be cave structure on the bridge, might be something interesting in there
>it's an altar where you put whatever fruit on so you get another golden poop
Exploring in BotW is a never ending string of disappointments
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>>381440214
They clearly ran out of money.
They spent all the dosh on 11/10 physics and interaction and the combat, world content, divine beasts, shines, and general lack of variety are a clear symptom of being rushed.
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>>381441927
>They clearly ran out of money.

So once again, the problem is capitalism. You're not allowed to spend time making great games because profit is everything.
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>>381440214
>make a big map

>fill it with procedural "quests" and empty roads

wew
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>>381440214
>See landmark or waypoint in the distance
>travel to it
>navigate landscape and solve tiny little puzzles on the way if you want
Why is this so hard for people? What do you need, to fall into a vampire's lair on your way to death mountain or something?
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>>381442056
The problem is twofold; gamers aren't willing to pay more money despite 30 years of inflation, and developers spend 50% of their budgets on advertising.
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>>381442056
You think they would be doing this without getting paid?
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>>381441927

NintenDrones unironically believe that the combat in BOTW is better than Dark Souls.
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>>381442272
money and budgets shouldn't be a problem at all - they wouldn't even exist if we were capable of evolving into a less primitive society.
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>>381440214
you don't know OP? it's ok when nintendo does it
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>>381442378
How? Every moveset is recycled except spear and there's only a couple moves? Also, most of the enemies don't pose any threat and the bosses blow.
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>>381442172
A big map is right! Hey, did you know Skyrim is being released in VR? I can't wait to experience the land of Skyrim again and explore the big map - and who knows what else!
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>>381442272
>inflation
The idea that we're kneecapping Nintendo by not paying $100 per game is laughable. Games get cheaper to make at higher qualities as technology comes out, that's why they're able to make BotW and release it at same the price Super Mario World did.
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>>381442172
Apt observation.
BotW is the same as Skyrim; a big empty wasteland with throwaway enemies, combat, bosses, etc... where the activities herein lack nuance, effort, variety, etc.
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You people are blind sheep.
Nintendo made a great BASE for the game, the physics, the look, the story everything is top notch.

But since we are at this day and age, where making one complete game never happens anymore, Nintendo simply made a great base game and will slowly add more and more DLC's for you to buy.

I do think they could have maybe added some more mini dungeons and side quests, sprinkle a few different types of enemys as well.

But Nintendo wants you to feel like something is missing, and want you to buy DLC's to make use of the great base game they made.
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>>381440214
The korok little puzzles are actually quite fun.
If anything it's better than asscreed 2 FZCJING FEATHERS AAAAAA
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>>381442568
>The only cost of game development is technology.
Labor, dum-dum.
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>>381442487
I can't wait, fellow gamer! Those fucking japs have no idea who they're messing with.
Todd's gonna show those toddlers how it's done!
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>>381442482

Because NintenDrones don't play anything other than Nintendo games and they believe they are the best at everything. I guarantee you more people here will say that they love vanilla Skyrim now that it's coming out to the Switch.
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botw is just repetitive and boring after 20 hours, end of the story. After the initial WOW it turns to be more of the same, let's be honest
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>>381442791

What is this image anon? An example of kids who don't know how to use colors?
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>>381442791
>A selection of photos
>Not one big high Res photo

Oh right I forget BOTW was ugly as sin at 720p
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Wow, people are still assblasted by a game that launched three months ago, I thought you needed to be 18 to visit this site.
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>>381443095

Well, there's a thread were Nintenbros are talking shit about the Witcher right now, and that one is two years old.
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>>381443095
It was a difficult E3 for many
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>>381443087
>>381443001
Todd will show them... Todd will show them all...
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>>381441927
>They spent all the dosh on 11/10 physics
how the fuck could that possibly be expensive when physics engines were perfected years ago
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>>381443209
>waah waah, look mom, they did it first
You both should fuck off with your console wars
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>>381442172
Skyrim and the new Zelda form a duality in my mind where they're pretty much the same thing except Zelda's combat just barely works enough for it to be an actual playable game. They make up the 4 and the 6 immediately surrounding the absolute average.
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>>381443209
Witcher and BotW are both great games, and people who linger complaining about them are usually pissed they didn't get a fiftieth hour of entertainment out of a game too big for them to complete everything in.
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>>381443287
Fallout 4 was ugly as sin as well. Looks like plasticine
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>>381442854
>people won't admit this but will instead reee about their 200+ hours played

like admitting wasting 200 hours in a walking simulator automatically proves the game is awesome and totally not boring and repetitive.
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>>381443209
Opened that thread and there is literally none of that. In fact, people are complaining about Breath of the Wild in that thread too.
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>>381443287

I know this is a strange concept for NintenDrones, but idorts can admit when they favorite developers make shit games. Most of /v/ doesn't like Fallout 4 or Bethesda btw.
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>>381443472
200 hours is an insane amount of time to pretend you weren't Interested in chasing the carrot on a stick that the game's exploration was.
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>>381443712
*their
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>>381443712
You're saying that as if anyone liked or defended Skyward Sword
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>>381443838

A journalist was almost killed for giving that game an 8.8.
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>>381443712
>i-i never liked bethesda anyway!
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>>381444012
Really? What's the story?
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>>381440214

Better yet, every halfway interesting sidequest ends in a shrine. There are a few interesting landmarks and areas but they still are almost always a segway into a yet another shrine or shrine quest or korok seed. BotW is so afraid to use narrative to make proper quests, instead relying on muh emergent gameplay which is basically devs throwing a bunch of shit into the melting pot without any actual care put in. Or a few props next to a landmark to show things happened here but we couldn't be half assed to actually show it. Exploration for the sake of exploration can only be fun for so long up until you realize that there's nothing actual worth exploring because 95% of the game's rewards are shrines and korok seeds, with the last 5% being Divine Beast powers.
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>>381440214
>call it "Zelda"
>free 10/10s
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>>381444382
>Is more like Zelda than any other game Aonuma shat out

>Block pushers raised by him scream it isn't enough like Wind Waker.
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>>381444382
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>>381440214
>go to a restaurant

>fill it with 900 meals

It's (not) ok when Nintendo does it??
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>>381444324
It's pretty to look at and fun to find new places, it's like cool hiking in an exotic fantasy place. It's a pastoral game about nature and the world, it's fun to live and travel in these places, and isnt so much about finding coins under rocks.
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>>381444685
If I wanted to bike in exotic locations I would spend the £350 on an inter-rail ticket and fuck around in Europe for a month
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>>381444574
There's a 15-20% rating tax on ALL co-op games
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>>381444802
You should! You can do both.
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>>381444896
>I like Bucket Holding simulators
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>>381442262
This too bee cue aich
People need to learn how to play a sandbox before lambasting a game they don't know how to enjoy.
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>>381440214
>Reward for getting all the seeds is literally poop
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>>381445089
>He doesn't like bucket holding simulator.

Not many friends, eh?
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>>381444982
Nah I don't buy a system for 1 game
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>>381444896
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>75% of Breath of the Wild is hunting Koroks

It's a cleverly disguised collectathon.
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So many sonyfags hating BOTW. It is delicious. The more I read, the more I want to buy the switch and play.
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>>381444279

Jeff Gerstmann
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>>381444896
This+handhelds do not attract the Western normie nostalgiafags like big console releases.

Interesting how random Russian critics aren't blasting BOTW like they did Undertale and then suddenly disappearing shortly after with their articles deleted. Noggles the ol' noodle.
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>>381442172
Funnily enough they are both similar games, yet one is praised while the other is hated............................................................
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>>381441927
>delayed 2 years
>still rushed

Maybe Nintendo is just fucking shit, then?
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>>381445867
always an excuse
always an argument change
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>>381445941
>other is hated
UHHHH
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>>381445972
Nah, just Aonuma.
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>>381445559
120 shrines + main story should easily net you over 100 hours
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>>381445867
>97
who the fuck can take this website seriously
oh wait it doesn't matter unless it's a game i like or an exclusive
fuck console war fags and review wankers
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>>381445867
>Interesting how random Russian critics aren't blasting BOTW like they did Undertale
Oh please do tell me more.
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>>381445867
If Undertale came out with BOTW, by now it would be a 75 with blog rants in the 30s by cyckagames.ru and prototallegitreviewgaming.za Metacritic would (((mysteriously))) approve as critics. Then the website would be gone a month later just like the ones with Undertale.

Fucking corporate kikes.
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>>381446276
trains are a great fucking idea though, as is the shoebill. The latter's implementation sucked, but the former was great
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>>381446601
The infamous 60 that dropped it below MGSV:
http://killscreendaily.com/articles/undertales-not-peaceful-it-pretends

Truly an unbiased piece of medi-ohloooooooook, oohhhhhhhhhthatsuuuuucks...

What a coincidence!
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>>381444382
>>381444574
>>381444896
>>381445553
How can a man be so BTFO
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>>381447289
Thankfully it was archived. http://web.archive.org/web/20160312223609/https://killscreen.com/articles/undertales-not-peaceful-it-pretends/

How does an indie literally who manages to kill a website anyway?
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>>381447350

lel
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>>381440214
Meh, I didn't really mind since I was busy fucking around with the physics engine and the elements.
You can't deny it's the most interactive open world game in existence.
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>>381442056
>profit is everything
Yes.
Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft are multi-million dollar corporations, what the fuck else did you expect?
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>>381440214
no one is autistic enough to find them all
besides, its all about the first like 20 hours anyway
and they are Godlike
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>>381449268
>You can't deny it's the most interactive open world game in existence.

But you can, Just Cause 2 does open world better than this, and thats saying something.
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>>381449268

>what is Minecraft

>what is Just Cause

>what is GTA
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>>381443308
>physics engines were perfected years ago
They really weren't. Any game I can think of with a physics engine prior to BotW always had a tonne of glitches, ones which the average player would encounter during regular gameplay (like ragdolls spazzing out of objects, or heavy objects flying into the air like bouncy balls). The only physics bug I encountered in BotW was a guardian clipping through the ground with stasis applied, and that's since been patched.
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>>381444012
No, that was for TP not SS. Nobody here likes SS.
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>>381449929
Ok
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>>381440214
>20 hours in
>The entire formula of the game is obvious and exploring is no longer satisfying
>A massive, cool looking square maze is right in front of you
>No point in going there because you know exactly what you'll find there and you don't even need it anymore

It was fun while the veil was over my eyes. After you take it off it has nothing left.
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>>381450420
>No point in going there because you know exactly what you'll find there and you don't even need it anymore
Okay, so what would you find there?
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>>381445559
That's only if you do absolutely everything in the game. If you sincerely believe you are meant to get all 900 Koroks you are either truly autistic or willfully ignorant. It seems like going to the beach and complaining that 99% oof it is collecting shells.
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>>381445670
Wrong game dip, and he wasn't 'almost killed' you mong, he was criticized.
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>Make a thread
>Fill it with salt since you can't comprehend fun
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>>381445941
In what world? They are both GOTY and both fun. This dogshit sub is not representative of a fucking thing in reality.
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At first I thought the shrines were like... once in a while, limited experiences where you get something useful (like a new power) every time. But that was just the first four. There's 120 total and they're just puzzles and tutorial shit.

That and a bunch of "bring me this" missions.

Who other than 10 year olds found that fun?
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>>381442172

tell me there's a climbing mod in skyrim, after botw I can't be fucked to TCL my way over mountains
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>>381442378
>it's another soulsfag-believes-soulscombat-isn't-utter-crap episode
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>>381450420
So you literally talked yourself out of checking out something interested to you because you decided to boil it down only to its reward? Seriously, do you think video games are just for achievement hunting? Does Mario 64 suck because it's 'just collecting stars'?
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>>381450829

>GOTY

That's Quake Champions anon.
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>>381451079
Then don't do them, that's what I did. Shrines aren't mandatory or the core of the game. You guys keep hitting the first thing you don't want to do and then tossing the entire game out because for some reason you think you have to do everything. Yes the game is imperfect but how many of you are complaining because you forced yourself to burn out on content you didn't have to commit to?
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>Bought Horizon and Zelda on release date
>Started Zelda first because fuck SJW, that comes last
>Couldn't stand the nintendoPad so bought a Wii u pro controller
>Started Horizon
>Come to /v/ and read Nintendo shilling day after day
>Autistic paise as the citizen kane of gaming
>Nintendo shitposting the "detail comparison" videos in every Horizon threads
>read about the empty world, repetitive shrines no dungeaons, 900 koroks
>nintenbabbies still defend it as the next jesus of videogames
>Completely loose the desire of playing any Zelda game ever again
Thank you drones.
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>>381442172
I've got over 200 hours in both and they're honestly barely alike. Skyrim has more emphasis on menial quests (many are literal copy-pastes, and I think it generated fetchquests infinitely) and its somewhat interesting lore, whilst BotW is more focused on its world design, problem-solving, and exploration. BotW also has significantly better combat compared to TES series.
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>>381444501
>block pushers
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>>381451554
Horizon IS pretty shit though, there's nothing even worth talking about it.
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>>381451554
>but game
>don't play it
>read complaints
>decide to hate it
>reject anyone who says anything about it is fun
>brag about it
Very impressive
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>>381450420


go play world of wacraft you fucking burger
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>>381443001
Come on i know the exploration is shit but those picture are pretty
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>>381440214
Nintendo has been trash for 11+ years.
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>>381451554
>Letting others mold your own opinion instead of forming one yourself.
Neo-/v/, everyone.
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>>381452529
>>381451554
Literally 'hey guys, I just bought this, what do I think about it?' Then not playing it
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Not enough unique content ruined the game.
If the next game is in the same style, it'll be actually good and BotW's 97 will ruin its score.
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>>381440214
>since you aren't creative enough to fill it with interesting stuff.

Do you realize how much work would have to go into doing this? This is why it's generally a bad idea to make your world too big, unless it's a sandbox game where the goal is for the player or players to build the content themselves.
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>>381453203

That's what I said. Make a fucking smaller map
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>>381450829
>sub

You smell like reddit trash but it's even more obvious when you see Skyrim as "GOTY"
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why does everyone hate combat shrines? I think they are fun
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>>381456250
The combat in this game is not fun. Better than previous 3D Zelda games, but that is not saying much given how awful it's in those games.
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>>381450829
>sub
Yeah wow, get out. We're not here to flesh out how 'representative' we are anything, you fucking obstacle.
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>>381456497
Not him, but I disagree. The ckmbat may be a little simplistic but it is fun - especially when you involve physics shenanigans.
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>>381456976
I also agree, there's tons I do with combat between physics, throwing, parrying, gliding attacks and etc. That being said the combat shrines were kind of a damage sponge and you weren't able to use all your moves because of the layout
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>>381453098
>I hope its not a combat shrine
What do you mean by this? Did you actually have trouble with them?

Also its kind of funny the most positive view is the only one that shows actual screenshots.
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>>381440214

>go on /v/
>shitpost about a game you've never played
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>>381458210
>Did you actually have trouble with them?
They were boring.

>Also its kind of funny the most positive view is the only one that shows actual screenshots.
Funny how? The last panels perfectly represents what the in-game screen shots portray. You won't find anything fun. It's the same three things copy and pasted with the same rewards.
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>>381458520
how can you have this opinion if you never played the game?
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>>381458961
Why do you defend it if you haven't played it?
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>about to buy a Switch
>go over to my friends house and play Breath of the Wild
>Realize it sucks and save myself $500
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>>381450506
A shrine. Every enviremental puzzle or challenge ends with a shrine.
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>>381453098
nah there was plenty of content
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>>381460836
cool shrines are fun
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>>381442262
>Spend time on tiny little puzzles
>They are shit
>Don't spend time on them
>The game is empty.
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>>381461387
Yes there is. I said unique content, though.
There's one reward for 900 of the game's puzzles, and one reward for 120 of the game's puzzles. They say that the journey is half the fun but the thrill of the reward is also very important.
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>>381460836
Those big labyrinths all have unique rewards that you can't find anywhere else.
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>>381461618
every shrine was unique and the korok seeds are just things to do while walking around the over world.
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>>381440214
Shut the fuck up. Just admit you don't know what you want.
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>>381449658
>Blox
>Shooter
>And shooter

I really don't like shooters that much and pffff minecraft.

haven't played botw yet but it looks like the more interesting sandbox
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>>381461651
>unique rewards
Like.... Another shrine? Or a shiny sword that breaks on the next bokoblin I meet because it was apparantly made by the worst blacksmith in history.
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>>381462084
nah the durability system was perfect. you just have no taste :)
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>>381462084
Unique armor. It doesn't break.
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Will /v/ ever get over BotW? The asshurt stopped being funny a while ago, it's time to move on.
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>>381462376
>Posts a fucking trap
good lord they're actually fags.
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>>381462207
But it's more crap than the one you have so you never use it. Great.
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>>381442770
Labor also gets cheaper faggot
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You have cancer. This is the best game in the last 10 years, and i'm not neither a nintendo or zelda fanboy..
Just accept it .There is no point in playing games like Skyrim after this.
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>>381461651
Big labrynths? What are you referring to? Ine of the 4 small dungeons in the game that take an hour to complete?
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>>381463374
The ones mentioned by >>381450420
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How the fuck are 900 seeds? i only have around 800 and i searched every part of the map, where the fuck are the others?
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>>381463807
look up the korok map online

it's best to do one region 100% then move onto the next, less confusing that way
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>>381442172
Skyrim is such a low-hanging fruit that I'd call it a gourd.

That you resort to attacking it in an effort to defend BotW's mediocrity speaks volumes.
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>>381442056
>when economic illiterates chime in with their retarded opinions
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>>381463807
You're probably missing one kind of puzzle, like the acorns in trees, or the ones under rocks or something.
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>>381453098
>I hope it's not a combat shrine
That implies that any of the shrines are fun.
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>>381463042
fucking kys. The armor set you get from the labyrinths is one of the best in the game. you are just making yourself look more retarded
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>>381461678
>every shrine was unique
The ones that weren't blessing shrines or test of strength are, but they all look the same, have some gimmick that uses one or none of your abilities and reward you with the same item every time. Besides Korok seeds, there isn't much to do in the world except coming up with your own game.

>>381464595
I know, but combat shrines are way worse than any other shrine. Even if only because walking is more fun than fighting in BotW.
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