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>overwhelmingly positive reviews and hailed as an RPG masterpiece

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>overwhelmingly positive reviews and hailed as an RPG masterpiece
>give it a go
>consolized combat with no substance
>open world filled with pointless filler
>liberate area/free slaves objectives as you see in assassins creed or far cry
>bland manly and gruff mary sue protagonist with a set background so there's barely any roleplaying to do
>mediocre main story

What went wrong? Why has the bar for RPGs fallen so low?
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>>381421187
it's made for slavshit waifufaggots

if you aren't one it seems impossible to overlook its many, many deficiencies
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>am I cool yet?
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>>381421187
>>overwhelmingly positive reviews and hailed as an RPG masterpiece
>>give it a go
>>consolized combat with no substance
>>open world filled with pointless filler
>>liberate area/free slaves objectives as you see in assassins creed or far cry
>>bland manly and gruff mary sue protagonist with a set background so there's barely any roleplaying to do
>>mediocre main story
>What went wrong? Why has the bar for RPGs fallen so low?


LITERALLY EVERYTHING YOU SAID CAN BE REPLACED WITH "ITS POPULAR SO I HATE IT. BUT THATS NOT ENOUGH, I MUST TELL /V/ HOW MUCH I HATE IT. PS ALL I DO IS PLAY VIDEO GAMES WHILE BLACK MEN ARE OUT FUCKING MY FUTURE WIFE AS WE SPEAK".
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>>381421187
>with a set background so there's barely any roleplaying to do
I agree with everything else, but please kys
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>>381421187
That "game" was a 3/10 at best, and the main reason why I won't listen /v/ shit taste ever again.
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>>381421682
>projecting your cuck fetish onto others

kek
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>>381421187
after hearing praise for a long time I tried to play the first one when it was relatively new and I couldn't into the combat so I never played it again
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>>381421187

Witcher 1 was pretty superior to Witcher 2, which is pretty (exponentially?) superior to Witcher 3.

Unfortunately, the reverse is true in terms of mainstream appeal.

Oddly, you didn't list the one thing that killed the game for me: Pacing.

Your protagonist's daughter is lost, possibly being murdered, raped, sacrificed by evil space elves, you know. Bad stuff. You go on a mighty quest to find her and hopefully save her. You storm with vengeance to the kingdom.

And then you fuck off for infinite days playing collectible card games and saving every lost chicken in Not-Europe for every peasant. Resolving every conflict, traveling town to town and doing generic hero-shit.

Suddenly, you step into a "MAIN STORY QUEST", and it's back to hyper-urgent rescue-Ciri mode, where Geralt MUST HAVE ANSWERS.

And then it ends, and you're back to lolfuckoffland and Geralt no longer gives a fuck about his probably-being-raped daughter. A few more months mastering Gwent and you'll bother with the next "Main quest".

This kind of gappy, retarded distended bullshit pacing annihilates any sense of plot cohesion.

So fucking tired of open world meme designs
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>>381421709
You're 3/10 is the reason why people shouldn't listen to /v/'s taste period.
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Yeah i agree, I found it very boring too. Map was boring, comabt is boring, too much boring inventory management shit, boring characters, just overall boring game.
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I agree OP. Also, Breath of the Wild is the same except it has even less going for it.
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Oh god it's the "shit on Witcher 3" thread again.
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>>381422005
I'm black btw
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>>381421187
You got memed on. The first Witcher is actually the best one. 2 is where they started casualizing the games for the sake of mainstream appeal.
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>>381425848
This. So much this.
TW1:EE is the literal pleb filter.
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>>381425848
true
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I liked it, the combat isn't the best out there, the history is really simple, but all the characters are likable, and the girls are all top waifu material. I'm a simple guy, so i dont expect so much from games.
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>>381421187
>Consolized combat.
Comsole 3pv games have the best melee combat by miles tho.
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>>381424131
Oh the inventory management is total shit, i got to agree with you sir.
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>>381425848
God so much this.

Remember Act I? How atmospheric it was? I wanted to butcher that fucking priest more and more every time he spoke.
Meanwhile W3 has this shitty Whoreson Junior who is just a Ramsay Bolton clone from Game of Thrones. I couldn't care for him at all.
W3 was extremely washed out from it's edge to gain mass appeal. W1 had also best witcher role-playing and proper balance in preparation.
In W2 you have to meditate and go through shitty menus to dink potions. In W3 you spam food and potions in fight and in W1 you can still use potions in fight but they take animation and it's dangerous.
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>oh shit people like it, better hate it

ah yes
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Just started playing W2 anons - should I go with Iorveth or Roche? On one hand I want to save my waifu Triss as soon as possible but Roche saved me from execution and trusted me. I have a feeling this is gonna be a major decisions.

No spoilers plis
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>>381421506
I can tell this is a dev by the way he dresses but WHO?
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>>381428990
roche
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>>381423523
Every side quest you can pretty much say I don't have time for this, so it's your fault if you think the pacing is bad because it is up to the player.
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>>381428705
IVth act is the best one
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>>381421187
I just want a new Gothic.

Why isn't anyone working on one.
Indie devs have so much more opportunity nowadays to create something similar, right?
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>"WAHHH I didn't like the best game of all time"
>"WAHH I couldn't roleplay"
>"WAHH THIS ISN'T LIKE OVERWATCH AT ALL"

Fuck off OP. I bet you're one of those plebs who think Dark souls is a good game.
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>>381429305
>>"WAHH THIS ISN'T LIKE OVERWATCH AT ALL"
what ?
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I've tried to get into this game a dozen times but the shitty environment and shitty attitudes from everyone is a huge turn off.
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>>381429454
>shitty attitudes from everyone
That shouldn't be a turnoff at all.

You're basically dealing with superstitious bumpkins most of the time after all.
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>>381429454
>He gets offended by video game characters
t.Hanso main
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>>381429284
>Why isn't anyone working on one

Did you not see how bad Gothic did commercially?
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>>381428914
>oh shit people dislike this, better remind them that other people don't
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>>381421187
Todd, I'm not going to buy your fucking game.
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I was going to buy this today in the st e am sale you faggots let my hopes down
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>>381423523
Welcome to every open world game ever.
>The Reapers are fucking the Earth as we speak and millions die every day
>But this lady lost her dog and I have to go the the Whatever system to get it!
What's better? You only have 30 in-game days to sort this Wild Hunt shit or lose automatically? Every NPC going "By the Eternal Flame, Geralt! You don't have time to hunt some goddamn forktail, you have to find Ciri!"
If you want to to the main quest, just do it. No one's stopping you.
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>>381430413
Wrong, Breath of the Wild did it flawlessly.
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>>381421187
Because Skyrim and Dragon Age/Mass Effect set it there.
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>>381430460
How so? Serious question, this "picking flowers when you're supposed to stop the Apocalypse" thing is in every game with sidequests I can think of. I'm curious how someone dealt with that.
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>>381430654
You can tackle Ganon whenever you want, and everything you do beforehand is in preparation for that fight.
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>>381421187
Nothing went wrong, you just have shit taste and below average intelligence.
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>>381423523
You just described every RPG ever made. Go back to playing COD or any other cinematic bullshit.
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>>381429284
The new Gothic is called ELEX and it's going to be the best RPG ever made.
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>>381430654
Breath of the Wild is literally one huge training montage for you to be able to take on Ganon, you can try it from the get go. In the Witcher you go fuck around play card games while your "daughter" is being raped by elf edgelords. The Witcher 3 would have been 10 times better if structured like 1 or 2.
The worst part is people like
>>381431020 actually think it's one of the best games ever made with the shit combat and magical GPS and Batman senses and godawful pacing.
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>>381431178
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJPw_BbG70c

Think again!
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>>381421187
>consolized combat with no substance

Yeah, unlike all those mustard exclusive games with fantastic combat, amirite.
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>>381431178
lmao@you
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>>381428705
>tfw tons of plebs hate the first (couple) acts for whatever reasons
sure the game gets even better towards the end, but tons of casuals act like the start of Witcher 1 would be like some sort of unfair slog.
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May be op, you just have a shit taste or your a boring shitposter.
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>>381430413
Automata managed it fine. Most sidequests are carried over to next playthroughs when you hit important points.
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>>381430460
>>381430907

Zelda in general as actually really good with this. Even in OoT, the game is only in "you have to stop Ganondorf now" mode at a couple of points, and the rest of the game he's in the background, either preparing in unknown ways or having had taken over everything for years. And in MM the whole game is deliberately about doing NPC quests on a time limit just as the world is about to be annihilated.
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>>381431598
I always lose my motivation during act 3.
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>>381431723
The best game who did that was Morrowind. There were literally moments where characters told you to take a break and explore instead of progression. Sadly it was abandoned in Skyrim where every main quest is like "FAST ALDUIN IS GONNA DESTROY THE WORLD ANY MINUTE GO GO GO".
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>>381421187

It's worth it to post these threads and draw out people who liked the game because the NSA is logging their IPs. Don't worry oneday they'll all be hunted down and dealt with.
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>>381421187
>>liberate area/free slaves objectives as you see in assassins creed or far cry

The point where the bait becomes far too obvious
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>>381428705
>have an interesting(though rough around the edges) combat system
>throw it all away in the sequels and make a generic third person combat instead
Damn shame. 2 and 3's combat weren't as engaging as 1's.
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>Damn shame. 2 and 3's combat weren't as engaging as 1's.

Look at this fucking contrarian asshole.
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>>381421187
>liberate area/free slaves objectives as you see in assassins creed or far cry
the only moment this happens is in a rare encounter with bandits in the open world and even then you're not rescuing slaves but merchants with goodies for you, also rescuing them is optional too
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>>381423523
This guy is legitimately retarded. Putting aside that every game works like this Ciri has been going off wandering through different planets and universes for years story-wise, her "saving" is not as urgent as it could be for other characters. And Geralt knows that.
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>>381428705
>Remember Act I? How atmospheric it was? I wanted to butcher that fucking priest more and more every time he spoke.
I am just now finishing TW1 and I don't want to do anything to anyone because I don't care about the characters, and the "atmosphere" is killed by repetitive sounds and models, terrible animations and models, and obnoxious combat music (which plays every two steps in the swamp). There is not a single interesting area in the game besides. I don't know what anyone sees in this game.
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DUDE LMAO
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>>381421187
Combat is like playing with one of those newtonian motion toys.
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>>381431225
>In the Witcher you go fuck around play card games while your "daughter" is being raped by elf edgelords.
In the books maybe, and the sense of urgency was well done there.
It's different in W3.
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>>381432129
When it comes to mechanics, W1 did so fucking many things right. It was just perfect balance in preparation/meditation/alchemy for it to not be a chore but actual role-play as a witcher. It just needed some polishing and improvements.
W2 and W3 fell for the console casul meme and ruined all of that for generic gameplay. Potions literally autofill every time and you just spam them in combat without worrying or any risk, there is no consuming animation. The same with oils and decoctions.
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>>381432320
haha bazinga xD fuck i love this game and memes too xdd i got that reference haha xDD TBBT is the best show eva!!!!
>npc winks at the camera
>"this is for you, reddit!"

Omg that's me :)))) GOTY 2015, DAE WITCHER 3 IS BEST GAME EVA!!!! <3 <3 THANK YOU CD PROJEKT RED!!!! *throws money at the screen, literally!*

*upvotes the hilarious reference*
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>>381432241
>mashing buttons is engaging
>mashing dodge every time a mosquito flies by is engaging
>activating god mode with quen is engaging
At least try instead of resorting to buzzwords, anon.
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>>381432289
You're obviously a high-maintenance gamer who needs the latest games with the best visual presentation to feel anything.
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>>381432451
>mashing buttons is engaging
Out of context, I can't tell which Witcher you are insulting here.
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>>381432289
Because the first act is an awesome grey morality question everyone's motives episode.
The second is okay.
The third is a super-awesome investigation that only if done True Route style can net you the best result.
The fourth is one of the comfiest acts ever in vidya and River of Life will forever be a super relaxing music. Also dat ass.
Act5 is fine.

Looks like you couldn't get invested into the game or didn't pay attention enough.
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>>381432515
Obviously not 1 since you need timing in that game to get anywhere without dying.
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>>381432515
At least I can tell whether you played the games or not.
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>>381432463
Metroid Prime has good atmosphere. Dark Souls has good atmosphere. The Witcher does not have good atmosphere. Fucking Spyro the Dragon has better atmosphere than The Witcher.
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>>381432578

Rhythmic clicking was not challenging or engaging.
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>>381432649
That wasn't the point though
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>>381432253
I saw the same 3 men walk into an area i liberated in the same cutscene about 30 times throughout my playthrough.

The only outstanding quality of this game is the attention to detail poured into the outdoor open world's visual design (every indoor area looks the same).

The Witcher 3 is a "cozy" game. Its target audience is the average person who doesn't want to be challenged on any level from the media they intake.
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>>381432638

Okay you can fuck off with that shit, everybody is over exaggerating now.
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>>381432709
1/10

getting lower
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>>381432518
>The fourth is one of the comfiest acts ever in vidya
I see this a bunch but I don't get this at all, it's just as insipid as the rest of the game. Do you like beaches a lot or something? Or raspberries?
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>>381432649
I'd take rhythmic clicking over mashing attack and then mashing dodge once the enemy starts blocking any day. I'm not saying that W1's combat is perfect or absolutely superior to the sequels, its just that the devs could have improved that combat instead of going the easier route.
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>>381432129
You have to be literally autistic to think TW1's combat was anything but shit.
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>>381425848
>>381426650
>>381427510
>>381428705
THIS OH GOD THIS SO MUCH THIS HNNNGGGGG

Kys fags, all 3 are fine and they get progressively better with each installment. TW3 is the best by far
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>>381432864
>le autism reply
>le missing the point reply
Ah /v/, never change.
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>>381431245
What a shit trailer
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>when people say witcher 2 is better than 3

K E K

>when people say witcher 1 was better than 3

M A X K E K A C H I E V E D
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>>381432849
The music, the locations, the chill-out village, the "investigative" quests where you're learning about the setting and religion around there. It's all presented very comfily, without real urgency just as if you stumbled in a random far-away interesting village and got invested in the place enough to dig around at your own pace.

It won't hit 100% of the playerbase of course. Nothing ever does.
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>>381432812
what?
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>>381433069
>all presented very comfily

Stopped reading right there. I don't get the whole le comfy meme but if you think a game is good simply cos it makes you feel "comfy" then your a mouth breathing retard who should stick to watching a rainy window gif all day.
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>>381432960
What? You don't like a trailer with breathing music and over the top bass coupled with andromeda wannabe gameplay?
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>>381421187
>consolized combat with no substance
Not really, combat is tough on hardest difficulty. I bet you played on medium.

>open world filled with pointless filler
I'll give you that the world is full of filler, but what it's also full of is a LOT of side quests that are mostly all great. It's not an empty world.

>liberate area/free slaves objectives as you see in assassins creed or far cry
big fucking whoop you just kill a bunch of monsters who cares

>bland manly and gruff mary sue protagonist with a set background so there's barely any roleplaying to do
ur a lil faget, you get to make a lot of big decisions as geralt

>mediocre main story
I agree
game shines with its side quests
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>>381433160
It's okay anon, I understand the threatening feeling of being "left out" and thus choosing to pretend it's everyone else's problem rather than yours.
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>>381433215
mfw I heard that "music"
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>> this thread

Fuck me Witcher fans are crazy.

>>Left a review on steam on how i thought the Witcher 3 was a just meh (really really pretty meh).
>>I had this fucking sperg lord leave comments on my review just sperging out over the fact that didnt love he's waifu simulator.
>>Spergman was telling me to read the books and then play the games and that i didn't even play it when i put over 70 hours in it.
>> Spergman's steam profile is in german.
>> Fucking cucks
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>>381423523
>raped raped raped raped raped raped raped raped
She's a Witcher with super powers who can teleport all over the place, why would she be getting raped?
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>>381433350
Bet you don't have the balls to link your review.
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>>381433374
the slavs duh?
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>>381433156
Your bait.
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>>381433350
>not reading the books first
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>>381421187
OP is right. The Witcher 3 is a less fun Gothic with waifus.
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The one aspect of w3 that is actually bad is the follow the red portions, but it would be really hard to execute tracking monsters otherwise so I'll give them a pass since the rest of the game is so damn good

I've never understood why people hate the combat, it's just souls combat + signs. If you think the signs really make the combat that much worse then just don't spam them.
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>>381433350

>people disagree with you
>"GOD WITCHER FANS ARE SUCH DRONES GOD"

Fuck off.
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>>381430413
>You only have 30 in-game days to sort this Wild Hunt shit or lose automatically?

The first Fallout did something like this and it worked. While searching for a mcguffin, the game gives you a time limit and clues that may or may not get you to where you need to go. It sneaks in side content without having the main quest feel dissonant.
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>>381433396
with the fucking High Tism Wizards on this board?
Nah b i aint that dumb.
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>>381433482
i did read the books. i should have clarified. and i played and beat W1 and W2
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>>381433250
I guess I have to specify that I'm not OP to avoid people spouting argumentative-crutch memes at me

I played on Death March and can verify that it's easy to an idiotic degree

Calling the side-quests "mostly great" is downright false. Most of the side quests follow the same "follow the footsteps" gameplay structure and the stories are usually formulaic dark-fantasy schlock, with maybe 4 or 5 standouts.

Geralt is a solid character but makes the decision making and storytelling of the game highly detached from the player.

The Witcher 3 seems to be popular on /v/ because you get to play a pale guy with average intelligence and a big dick who has lots of sex. The rest of the world has forgotten about the game.
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>>381433519
Combat is too easy if you ask me. Even at the highest difficulties spammin + the occasional Ard destroys everything.
Then you pop Quen and protect while heal yourself.
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>>381433565
Haha thought so.
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>>381433529
I'm fine with em disagreeing with me.
These threads we have almost daily on /v/ arent helping your point my friend.
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>>381433529
>make a post saying how you left a review on Steam about how you dislike Witcher and Witcher shills sperged out
>Witcher shills on /v/ sperg out
Every time.
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>>381433069
>It won't hit 100% of the playerbase of course. Nothing ever does.
What is the point of listing atmosphere as a comparative positive for a video game if you acknowledge that it's not going to do it for everyone?
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>>381433740
I know right. Funny thing is i didn't even mean to make a point.
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>>381433467
It's not bait. The main game's bland and forgettable. The Bloody Baron was the only remotely interesting story arc. I've heard the DLCs are great but I have no desire to finish the main game so I'll never get around to them.
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>>381433789
Because it's a comparative positive for the majority of gamers who'll approach the game.
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>>381433740
Witcher fans on /v/ used to be cool. What the hell happened?
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Lots of nitpicking turned into hyperbole in this thread.

As far as gameplay mechanics go, W3 is servicable enough, though nothing exciting on its own. If you're one of the "gameplay is everything" crowd and only feel satisfaction from great feats with your keyboard or gamepad, then cut your losses, the game isn't for you. Neither were the first two. What it does well is letting you dive into an atmospheric world as Geralt, the Witcher. Even though his background is fixed, you have lots of ways to make that character your own, within the confines of his basic personality.

While it is (mostly) an open world game, it's not really a sandbox, so don't expect the game to let you go full retard on the local populace. Play Bethesda games for that. Play this for the multitude of little and bigger stories embedded in the myriad of available quests, some tackling grave topics, some being silly and anything in between. Feeling like gradually visiting the world far and wide with scenery porn and sometimes unique locations with things of note, meet with some interesting folk, some cool people and also assholes, all combined making for a memorable journey. It has lots of strengths and various weaknesses. The game may not be for you, but calling it shit makes you look smallminded and silly.
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>>381433649
My first play through and all of my subsequent ones I built mainly around swordplay with minimal sign usage to supplement because it's the way witchers actually fight so I never found the signs intrusive
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>>381433740
>>381433924
>>381433845
The samefag runs strong in this one.
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>>381433924
The third game come to consoles and all the 12 year olds saw their first pair of titties.
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>>381433924
Witcher is popular now.
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nah man my shit posting skill aint that strong.
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Do people actually play Witcher 3 without even looking at the previous games? I found it makes for a huge barrier for immersion but I see a lot of normies saying they enjoyed it, and that makes me confused.
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>>381434195
whoops meant to reply to>>381433986
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>>381433482
The books are fucking awful and have even poorer pacing than Bitcher 3
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>>381433727
>I'm fine with em disagreeing with me.
same goes for you disagreeing with them
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>>381434201

I made it a personal point to play the first two games before touching the Witcher 3 and I'm glad I did.

I actually like TW1 and TW2 a lot.
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>>381421187
yup, actual game of witcher 3 is terrible
what you are seeing here is mass effect 2 tier level of fanboyism over cutscenes

literally thats it, cutscenes, not story, not gameplay, cutscenes

now relish the fact that you are superior and not a pleb like majority of cucks who pretend witcher 3 wasn't complete dog shit
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>>381434201
We're at the generation where people thought Fallout started with 3. Just accept it.
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>>381434195
dayum, 10 whole hours?

shieeeeeeet
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>>381434337
>waaah everything is shit no good game exist this one got praised highly so lets pretend its the opposite

Eventually you'll get bored of this like all the others who preceded you
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>>381434343
Yeah, but I couldn't for the life of me figure out what was going on. There's a scene in which Geralt talks to some people bout his previous exploits while getting his beard shaved and none of it made any sense to me.

I also hear a lot about how reading the books is also recommended for the best experience and I can't help but wonder how it got so big with that much sequel baggage.
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>>381434337
You sound as if you think dialogue sequences are cutscenes.
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>>381434381
i just know its all spent in Huniepop....
some people just live the dream man.
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>>381431658
My god i fucking loved this game back in the day
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>>381434435
its not contrarian
youre a fucking pleb who thinks good cutscenes = good game

i enjoy good games
witcher 3 isnt one

you're probably same cuck who loved BOTW after shitting all over ubisoft games for the past 10 years, its the same fucking thing
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>>381433983
When you've taken in enough media, simply tackling grave topics stops being enough. It need to be done in intelligent and interesting ways. Nothing in The Witcher is intelligent or interesting. It's like a dumbed down Game of Thrones.
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>>381434543
>I also hear a lot about how reading the books is also recommended for the best experience and I can't help but wonder how it got so big with that much sequel baggage.


Even CDPR didn't expect it to be as Successful as it was.

Game of Thrones helped I guess.
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>>381423523
>reddit spacing
yeah fuck off with this shit bait
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>>381433540
>The first Fallout did something like this and it worked
Because they gave you ten times more time then you'll ever need.
>clues that may or may not get you to where you need to go
Welcome to modern games and waypoints. I remember searching for the Cave of the Incarnate in Morrowind. It took me two hours and I searched half the island, only to find the damn thing was literally over the hill from where I started. Doing away with this simplicity would mean that finding anything would take too long and today's playerbase would be turned off. Simple as that.
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>>381421187

I liked it but it got repetitive. I eventually dropped it while exploring skellige because literally 90% of the ? marks are literally nothing. I realize it's partially my own fault for going full OCD trying to uncover them all, but goddamn that is some lazy shit.

To me the combat in and of itself wasn't all that bad; it was more that even though the game gives you all sorts of weapons/tools/potions etc, the combat is easy enough even on death march where you don't need to use any of it because witcher gear is easy to find and stupidly overpowered.
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>>381425675
No you're not.
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>>381434651

So what video games do you consider intelligent and interesting?
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>>381434543
Because most of those people do not actually care. They just want to play the next big thing and be with the "in" crowd.
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>>381434647
BotW is a great game. The Witcher 3 is a slightly above average game. Assassin's Creed, Far Cry and Watch Dogs are porn with no worth on any level.
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>>381434543
I think for people who aren't familiar with the universe it's just a generic open world action adventure where you're a guy with a sword and superpowers
Not sure how someone could really think w3 is great under that pretense but I guess they did

What w3 really excels at is bringing the world and characters of the universe to life for people who recognize them
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>>381434543
>>381434784
Huh....i do recall gaming media really hyping
up W3 for YEARS before it's release. WAAAYYY more coverage than W1 and W2 got combined. But why? because it was on consoles? it was a slow year? was it a slow year?....fuck getting old sucks.
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People biting in this thread lel.
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>>381434815
>hates ubisoft games
>BOTW IS SUCH A GREAT GAME XDDD
yeah, im totally the contrarian here, not the fucking idiot worshipping games fundamentally identical to series of games done to fucking death already
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>>381435141
It's 4chan's national pass time.
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>>381421187
You don't just have the normal shit taste. Yours is a kind of putrid taste that is quite revolting to behold.
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>>381434651
>When you've taken in enough media

I notice you say "media" as a whole. Seems to me it's more your problem becoming jaded, regardless of books, games or movies. W3 did a good job serving up all kinds of things, especially so, if it's games we're talking about. Not everything about it is profound, nor did the game set out to change your outlook on life, but it serves up a multitude of things, making the world as a whole come alive.
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>>381435105
Witcher 2 being a surprise hit and getting a sequel was a big point, I think. That and Witcher in general has a dark and edgy setting which your regular consumer loves. Also sex and nudity.
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>>381434778
Not too many.

Games that take full advantage of the medium without being ego-vehicles for the minds behind them. The most intelligent games are those with the least amount of copy-pasted intellectual content from books the developers read (Nier:Automata and everything by Ubisoft being the worst recent offenders). Games like Ico and Shadow of the Colossus did a good job at it.
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>>381434647
>youre a fucking pleb who thinks good cutscenes = good game

I don't. The game is solid, get over it you contrarian.
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>>381432449
Nice sperg out Anon. Your tendies should be ready soon but mummy has to go to work. Will you be looking for a job today son? You know mummy will be retiring soon.
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>>381430907
According to this logic, Dragon Age Inquisition must be an awesome RPG as wel...
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>>381435279
I've seen the same stories told thousands of times over all the mediums, and there comes a point where you see the difference between good art, art, bad art, and non-art. I guess that's jaded.
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>>381435424
>Witcher 2 being a surprise hit and getting a sequel was a big point, I think. That and Witcher in general has a dark and edgy setting which your regular consumer loves. Also sex and nudity.
Good point. I stand dumbfounded on why some of the gibbering retards i know like Game of Thrones TV show. I'd expect their brains to explode trying to follow the number of characters alone.
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>>381435560
>Games like Ico and Shadow of the Colossus did a good job at it.

So you require games to be minimalist in order to be intelligent?

Because there was nothing thematically complex about those games.
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>>381432449

Autism: the post

PROTIP: Obsessing over "nuh epick 4chan vs reddit website wars!!!11" is the hallmark of an underage faggot. Come back when you're 18+
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>>381435170
Your ability to articulate and the things you're saying already paint you as dumb, but if you can't see the difference between a Ubisoft game and BotW, all hope is lost for you.
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>>381434750
>not disabling the ? marks from the map and finding things by stumbling upon them
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>>381421187
main story was great until you find Ciri, it's pretty clear they rushed the final act
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>>381435852
I know that feel. cant bring myself to finish Horizon Zero Dawn because it puts me to sleep because ive seen everything this game has to offer before and done better.

(Horizons not bad it's just nothing new out side of it's art style. and the art style is fantastic)
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>>381435963
>Ico and Shadow of the Colossus
they got more complex themes than all the witcher 3 and it's expansions
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>>381435831
>>381435998
>he likes the redditor 3: wild upvote

I thought nu-/v/ was just a meme but apparently not.
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>>381431245
who the fuck chose the "music" for this?
listening to this guy breathing literally, and I am not exaggerating here, makes me want to puke
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>>381436112
It really wasn't. The main story jumped the shark in Velen and kept going on a slow downhill slide, Bloody Baron jumped the shark several times more with the ridiculous Gibberkin bullshit and the fact that it was utterly trivial to actually find his wife and child, while it also made no fucking sense for his wife to have communed with the witches (where the fuck did she even learn of them, and vice versa?)

At that point it was just orbiting a shark.
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>>381435963
Bloodborne was very clever as well, but people on this board - especially in TW3 threads - have this mental block of memes and angst that prevents them from seeing the difference between intellectual content and source material. I assumed one would latch onto Lovecraft being the chief inspiration for the game and devolve the conversation into straw-man and contrarian idiocy. Valve's games up to and including Portal were pretty smart too, though the fanbase of Portal shrouds it in the same fog of non-objective discussion that Undertale is in.
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>>381433021
this
witcher 1 was ok but it was still not a good game
and witcher 2 was absolute horseshit it wasn't even close to an RPG it was linear and boring as fuck.
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>>381429209
>B-but you c-can choose n-not to p-play the g-game
Yes anon, that WOULD fix everything, good shout.
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>Mfw I love both Bloodborne and The Witcher 3
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>>381429284
You actually need talent to make such a complex rpg.
A single dev can't create a huge world an place every single enemy, create alternate and unique routes for every quest and keep all of that balanced. A team of indie developers would do a poor job and it's clear that it would never sell.
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>>381432904
>progressively better
progressively worse, more like.
w3 only improved polish, while removing aspects which made the earlier two good. combat balance is still completely broken, but it looks pretty now.
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Whenever I see a Witcher 3 thread, I always see people discuss their characters, sidequests, and story. I never see anything about combat or interesting things to do or collect. You know, like a real RPG where I can act out my imaginary character. Now contrast that with a real RPG like Diablo, where nobody gives a shit about the story but talk about gameplay and tweaking their characters. This is very telling to me that developers can just cater to low IQ people now by making a movie script and passing it off as a video game.
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>>381435963
Also Ico and Shadow were fairly thematically complex. Not sure how you could think they aren't.
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>>381436757
>I never see anything about combat or interesting things to do or collect. You know, like a real RPG

Diablo isn't an RPG anon.
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>>381436757
>You know, like a real RPG where I can act out my imaginary character.

That's just one specific flavor of CRPG. You may notice that RPG is a very watered down term when used for computer games that encompasses a multitude of game styles.
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>>381421187
>overwhelmingly positive reviews and hailed as an RPG masterpiece
Daily reminder that games like these that rely on graphics to impress people are like blockbusters. If it was a movie they would be critically panned but gaming critics would never do that because their jobs rely on praising games to sell them. They're useless because they'll actually hate really great games like Tropical Freeze but give them bad reviews because they're too difficult.
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>>381435424
>sex and nudity is normie shit
well, thans for reminding me where I am, time to close the browser
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>>381429172
Thanks, infiltrating Loredos house was pretty cool
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>>381436757
It's almost as if... RPG has various sub-genres... damn...
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>>381432129
What? I haven't played Witcher 2 or 3 yet but I can't imagine it gets any simpler than Witcher 1. You literally just click when the cursor lights up and press whatever rock paper scissors key works against the target. Or if it is a group it gets really easy and you just press the "kill everything around me regardless of what it is resistant to" button. I don't even bother with the spells and shit when I can literally just clear cut through every single fight like this all you do is drink blizzard and ez everything. I play this shit literally one handed.
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>>381433906
>it's good for people who like it
wow genius
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>>381433519
>it's just souls combat

No.
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>>381423523
It's not his daughter. The Witcher is literally a cuckold, whose main interest is a barren whore.
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>>381421187
t. played the game on easy
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>>381421187
>>overwhelmingly positive reviews and hailed as an RPG masterpiece
So is Fallout 3, and look how all those goty awards hold up.
Point is most people have shit taste.
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>>381438728
Fallout 3 is largely forgotten by now. It's largely overshadowed by Skyrim and New vegas to a lesser extent.
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>>381429305
>You can't hate popular games!
>Rails on Dark Souls

What?
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>>381421187
You're supposed to mod the combat and ignore the open world. Make it a questing simulator with enough shit in between to make the world feel alive. There is no design to be explored unless a quest takes th/you through a specific path
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>>381438229
>someone doesn't know what majority means
Indeed genius
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Sorry you have shit taste
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>>381421187
can we just greentexting. nobody uses them properly anymore for anything except starting threads sarcastically spouting shit they know isn't true like facts and baiting retards into arguing them.
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>>381433021
>tfw watching this cycle happen for the 3rd time now
It's just the newest iteration of summer /v/ bandwagoning a mediocre game to look like discerning patricians
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>>381439247
are you really implying that the majority of people who play The Witcher will like its atmosphere? are you also implying that majority means anything in regards to quality?
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>>381434695
I see this sometimes. What the fuck is "Reddit spacing"? Is it just using line breaks? Like... Formatting your paragraphs logically for readability?

Is this response just faggots saying "I have no real counter point so I'll criticise an arbitrary element of the statement that can't be refuted and claim that that element invalidates the statement regardless of how unrelated they are"?
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>>381421187
Is it a coincidence that the more the witcher was made for consoles and a wide audience it got worse and worse? I could forgive ALL of that if it had as engaging a story as Witcher 2 but without the story motivation (I dont count side mission stories as "the story") to motivate me I started recognizing these modern design trends more and more. Its admirable that they made such a good version of the modern open world RPG but thats still all it is sadly. I honestly prefer the more tightly designed and engaging Witcher 2. I love the combat, fuck you, and the story had me actually fucking interested for once.
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>>381421187
now compare it to its closest competitor
what is that again?
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>>381434295
the books are shit I'll give you that but they're miles better than the games
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>>381421187
>this boring crap is the best peecucks have to offer
pc master race more like pc no good games
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>>381440551
I didn't beat Witcher 3, but I played maybe... 20 hours. HZD was a better version of what Witcher wanted to be so... Maybe that? Breath of the Wild? Whatever big open world games are popular right now
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>>381421187
it has naked white women
literally the only reason people like it
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>>381432449
you'r the tier of cancer which you try to make fun of.

Pure pottery
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>>381440708
>HZD was a better version of what Witcher wanted to be
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>>381440551
>it doesn't have any competition to compare to so I guess that makes it perfect!
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>>381440708
> HZD was a better version of what Witcher wanted to be
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>>381423523
Yeah this problem plagues pretty much every open world. I'm currently playing Breath of the Wild and it can't make its mind up whether I should be rushing or not.

On the one hand Ganon's been contained for a hundred years, so what's the big rush? On the other hand they keep saying "he's about to break free though so hurry" when they couldn't possibly know that. It's supremely retarded.
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>>381441821
didn't say it was perfect buddy
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>>381440551
>overwhelmingly positive reviews and hailed as an RPG masterpiece
>give it a go
>pc-oriented combat with depth and variety
>open world filled with meaningful content
>find something in draugr tomb/kill someone in draugr tomb objectives unlike anything you've seen before
>player-created and customized protagonist without a set background so there's limitless roleplaying to do
>epic main story
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>>381431124
He actually didn't Morrowind is "bad shit is happening, but take your time, it's some really slow bad shit and you don't want to make it known that you're trying to stop it, trust me dude". Furthermore every ys game and a billion other non-open-world rpgs just get to the point and take you to the main quest with sidequests basically being a fucking secret that you can only access by talking to literally every villager, and back when games were 2D there were potentially a lot of them to talk to.
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>>381423523
>Ciri needs help...
I'm in my first run in this game (hard mode) and I've played a Ciri twice... SHE4S GODLIKE !!
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