Why are people cheating in speedruns now? https://www.youtub

>>381324973
In b4
>I like that jump

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Abusing a bug in the game might as well be cheating too.
It's like somebody who does a triathlon, skips half the events and calls it a new record.

Speedruns used to be a complete game with the core missions finished.
Now it's
>he watch me glitch through this room and land at the final boss entrance

>>381324973
How can you expect serious discussion in your thread if you start with a picture like this?

>>381324973
r-rumi chan

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So this is what living with autism is like?

Holy shit who the fuck cares

>>381325152
that's why there's multiple categories like 100% and any% anon

>>381325152
That is why there are different categories, dipshit.

>>381324973

Literal autists

>>381325356
more real speedruns and half-assed glitch runs

>>381325152
Is this pasta?

Just to tell you in case you're serious, you do realise that there's such a thing as glitchless runs, right?

Steroids should be mandatory in sports. Make it more interesting and advances medicine by turning athletes into guinea pigs.

>>381325402
I second this, we do need more

>>381325440
Not that guy, but whats the point of anything that isn't a glitchless run? Why should I care for some cunt who found bugs in the game and abused them?

>>381325594
Because a run with glitches is often more difficult, resulting in a greater show of mastery

Let me guess, you think people who wavedash in Melee are cheaters too, right?

>>381325079
hey fuck you I was gonna post that

>>381325696
>mastery
Mastery of what? Abusing programming loopholes? Sure. But I wanted to see a demonstration of masterful gameplay.

>>381325594
It's the separation between "Finishing the game as fast as actually possible" and "Finishing the game as fast as possible the way the devs intended". There's different skill sets required for each one and they both have their own appeal to watch.

>>381325804
>masterful gameplay
>>reddit

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>>381324973
Gee OP, that's a good question. Let me wind up some serious discussion, uhh...

>>381325594
Many people like seeing how far they can humanly abuse a games quirks to finish it as fast as possible. Much like how TAS is popular because people like seeing the extremes to which they can abuse a game even beyond human limitations.

>Why should I care?
There is no "should" here. Care if you want to. Don't care if you don't want to. This is why different categories exist.

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Holy shit did all you autists run out of Risperdal at the same time?

>>381325804
>doing piss easy baby gameplay is masterful
>pulling off frame perfect inputs to activate a glitch isn't

>>381324973
Did people even watch the run? It's way too fucking obvious it's cheated.

>>381325897
>>381325848
For the sake of arguing - whats the principal difference between using glitches, and using in-game cheat codes? Both were programmed in, both were not meant to be used.

>>381325804
Yes, programming loopholes that can require extremely strict timing and knowledge. Usually they're more difficult than anything in the game

>>381325356

Even those are bullshit.

>that GDQ "100%" Chrono Trigger run full of skip glitches and "muh RNG manipulation"

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>>381326002
>in-game, pre-programmed cheat codes are not meant to be used

>>381325936
>implying i took that shit after it gave me breathing problems
found out later it caused gyno, talk about dodging a fucking bullet, also missed out on a possible lawsuit but whatever

>>381325696

2 hours of a guy rewriting RAM in Pokemon is boring as fuck to watch.

>>381326156
Cheatcodes are usually programmed in for playtesting purposes, and left for struggling casuals, so yeah, you're not meant to use them for fairness purposes

>>381326238
but hopping on a fucking barrel to clip out of a room is fine :)))))))

>watch me buy and sell these items to trigger a glitch in the programming
>now watch me buy this item
>and here we go, i use the item here and wa la i am at the end game credits :)

>>381326002
Glitches are an unintentional element of all games that, in glitch speedruns, are abused through normal gameplay mechanics.

Included cheat codes like in GTA are purposefully included by the developers in some games and actively acknowledged by the devs and fans as being illegitimate advantages. Additionally, they can often trivialize aspects of gameplay.

>>381326329

>Additionally, they can often trivialize aspects of gameplay.

Just like glitching past the entire game.

>>381326168
1. Pokemon ACE takes like 3 minutes, not 2 hours
2. Then don't watch it, other people find it interesting

I actually found it incredibly interesting the first time I watched it. Obviously I won't watch it more than once, and since it's not even a fun run to perform, almost no one does.

So what the fuck is the problem?

>>381326002
>>381326316
They both make the run faster, but using glitches usually makes the game harder. In the spirit of creating a run that's fun to watch and do, they use glitches and not cheats. Glitches are really fucking fun to pull off. Believe it or not, 99% of speedruns are done because they're fun to do.

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>>381326162
>Not wanting big voluptuous titties to play with
Whats wrong with you?

>>381326109
Did it say 100% run or 100% glitchless run?

>>381326415
>who the fuck wants to watch someone glitch past an entire game that sounds boring as hell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brSsTm_yz0U

>>381326609

>TAS
>someone

>>381324973
I thought cheating in online games (other than for griefing purposes of course) was pathetic, this is some next level shit.

>>381326592

I don't really remember, but it was still incorrect anyway because they skipped a fuckton of it.

>>381326609
that was a waste of time, seriously anybody who thinks thats "cool" and "skillfull" are just giving this autist pity points for wasting his time and ours

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>yellow fucking milk

>>381326162
I got that shit for depression of all things. What the horseshit is that? Garbage phycologists giving a fucking anti-psychotic because to teenagers.

>>381326746
If the game considers it a 100% then it's a 100% regardless of how much they skipped.

>>381326680
No shit, buddy. My point still stands; /v/ has an extremely ignorant understanding of what "glitches" are, and seems to think all of them involve clicking a few menu options and wrong warping to the credits, when in reality, abusing flaws in programming to move at a much faster pace can be way more exciting to watch than just moving through the game the same way a normal player would, just at a moderately faster speed.

>>381326781
So sorry for wasting 22 fucking seconds of your life.

>>381326872
i was given it for mild bi-polar, but couldn't even breathe when i took it so told him to stop prescribing it.

anti-psychotic that ended up giving teenagers manboobs

lmao so salty.

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>>381326880
Chrono Trigger doesn't keep track of percentage. Wouldn't that category have to have arbitrary definitions?

>>381326746
100% completion doesn't mean they do everything in the game the exact way the developers intended (that would be called glitchless). For Chrono Trigger in particular it boils down to "get all the shit from the end-game sidequests, then beat the game". You sound like you just wanted to watch a walkthrough, but at 2x speed.

>>381326927

>not even a person
>My point still stands

>SGDSQ next month
Looking forward to more epic WAAAAAAAAAAAAH memes?

I bet the proto tranny starts it again.

>>381327262
I don't think you understand what the point I'm trying to make is.

>>381327069

>arbitrary definitions

That's literally what they did at the start of the run. "We're skipping huge chunks of the game but we're calling it 100% anyway because we say so, now for seven hours of "le demon chocobo" jokes".

>>381327069
100% runs often have something that makes them count, for Chrono Trigger it seems to be clearing every quest that makes the run count as 100%.

>>381327357

Making the point of "watching people glitch through the entire game is totally awesome" with a video of no such thing occurring is not how points work.

>>381327492
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeZuhuFWnzs
Better?

>>381325390
>>381325440
Except so-called 'glitchless' run still exploit a shit ton of bugs.

>>381324973
youtube keeps shilling this fucking video to me for over a fucking week

speedrunning is already autistic but people who'd try to cheat at autist activities to try in fit in with spergs are a special kind of pathetic but so are these speedrunning police

the whole community is a degenerate mistake

>>381327069
No shit, all speedrunning categories are arbitrary. The community makes them up.

>>381327759
If it really buggers your bumhole that much, grab your favorite game and choice of recording software, play through it without using whatever you deem as an exploit, and upload the 10 hour long video as a new category. Maybe call it Let'sPlay%.

>>381327759
So read the goddamn category description.

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>Multiple categories for how to do speedruns so everyone gets something
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHY ISNT ALL DONE EXACTLY AS I DEEM IT SHOULD BE
>HOW DARE YOU WANT TO SEE (X) WHEN I DONT

>>381327069
>Wouldn't that category have to have arbitrary definitions?

have you already forgotten?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHA1qxsLH-0

>>381328172
That's the joke, idiot.

>>381327759
Wasn't there a 'glitchless' speed run, where the speedrunner just fucking use a exploit that pushs his racer vehicle back across the starting line, which count as passing laps and pretty much automatically finishes the race?

>>381328237
no it wasn't

>>381324973
A DEAL'S A DEAL

>>381324973
speed running is for literal autists

>>381325804
Look at the half life 21 minute speedrun and think about what went into achieving that
They had to time every jump perfectly and transition from segment to segment perfectly
That shit takes ridiculous amounts of skill and dedication

>Cheating a world record at something run by hyper analytical autists.

What's the longest a cheater got away with it at a game that isn't so obscure they're the only ones to run it?

>>381328597
that one is a terrible example because it's both segmented and scripted

>>381327262
>>381326609
do you even know what TAS are?

>>381325804
Who the fuck watches speedruns for masterful gameplay?

All the categories are arbitrary.
My mind wanders

>>381328924
Yeah a bunnyhop script
Most of the work still has to be done entirely by hand, which is what makes it difficult

>>381329735
bunnyhoping is most of the work in hl speedruns

>speedrunning

Why do people get so mad about speedrunning?

>>381332583
Because it's fun.