Asked this on /g/, but they are too autistic to give me an accurate

>>381313551
Windows 7

>>381313551
7 is the far better product

Unfortunately, M$ is pushing 10 by making many games Exclusive to w10, as well as dropping support for 7

If you're planning on using it primarily for gaming, you probably have to suck it up and get 10

All /g/ will tell you to do is install gentoo

>>381313551
All of the Win10 exclusives are total shite to be honest. Just stick with Win7.

>>381313551
Plan on upgrading your PC within 3 years.
Windows 7
Plan on keeping your computer longer than the next 3 years
Windows 10.
2020 extended support ends on Windows 7 and 8.1

>>381313551
Win 7, nothing to be discussed here. Also, never ask /g/, they cannot even give an answer for What are the goods and bads of X browser? Is it worth it? You start the thread, you get one answer after 5 hours and it's about linux. Don't bother.

>>381313551
10 has exclusives.

It's not bad if you go through a tutorial on how to de-activate its more annoying features.

Get 10. Don't listen to the memers. 10 is flat-out better in every way and won't be getting hacked by North Koreans in the foreseeable future.

>>381313551
I tried Windows 10 but it completely fucked my bluetooth adapters. I use them for dualshock 3 controllers and I just couldn't manage to get them working. Windows would disable them after every restart. I just eventually caved in and went to Win 8.1, no complaints. Get classic shell and it's every bit as good as Win 7, only faster.

>>381313551
W7
>b-but they will stop support
As if you used that pajeet system anyway
>but what about updates?
As if you need more of them

3rd party support will die after a very long time
As for hardware support such as graphics, drivers may stop popping up, they already did

So just use 7 as long as you can, after that you will have to switch to 10 eventually
Also DX12 is a meme

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>>381313804
>>381313726
>>381314194
>>381314545

I love windows seven and i've used 10 before as well.

Problem is I'm still on service pack one and I dont seem to be able to use windows update. It searches indefinitely. I am using a cracked version of windows 7 though, that is probably my issue. I dont really wanna buy a copy if I dont have to. Any one of you got a cracked version that updates?

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>>381314314

Stick with w7 till M$ redeem themselves with W11 or not

>>381314657
That problem is present on legit versions too
Just google the fix for it, you'll ha e to download an update manually which will fix the problem

>>381313804
Or run windows 10 in a virtual machine like a fucking smart person YOU FUCKING RETARD

>>381314657
google windows loader

>>381314747
anyone who actually cares about privacy won't be using windows 7 either
and a smartphone for that matter

>>381313804

Wait, win 10 exclusives actually won't run on Win 7? I thought they just called it Win10 exclusive to kinda say "This is our latest version but whatever, play it on 7 if you must"

>>381314860

Ive googled around quite a bit, I ended up downloading some kind of offline update tool.
The program gives me the all clear but windows still thinks its on sp1.

>>381314912
Will do.

>>381314657
>>381314860
And while you're at it, also look up which updates are telemetry, spying, W10 auto update and crack disabling, this is mandatory. Will post it in 30mins if thread is still alive

>>381315085

I use spybot anti-beacon.

>>381313804
>7 is the far better product
The ONLY good thing about 7 compared to 10 is the level of privacy you get, and the shit they did to the updates system where you can install/uninstall them individually

>>381314954
Afaik DX12 is win 10 exclusive, so games that only use that version are natively win10 exclusive

>>381314926
It's still better to be affected by a killswitch rather than a constant stream of data

Even if you can't eliminate it completely you can lessen the amount of information leaked

>>381315216
DX12 games are scarce and shit so far
Looking at the game industry that will not change anytime soon

And what about performance? Which system is smoother? I heard 10 consumes less ram than 7.

>>381315252
>It's still better to be affected by a killswitch rather than a constant stream of data
I think you're confused as to how many backdoors windows has had since NT 5, and Mac OSX for that matter. Enjoy your misplaced sense of security.

>>381315192
And the hardware support. Win10 creators update is so shit and breaks so many things it's not even funny.
Get 8.1, Win 7 is an ancient bloated piece of shit in comparison.

>>381314954
Games that only have Directx12 support can only run on Windows 10. Most of the Win10 exclusives announced at E3 will NOT be available on Steam but rather on Xbox on Windows 10.

>>381315679
It's about the same. The performance is worse if you are using an unpatched version of Windows 7 that is lacking any service packs but other than that, not much difference.

In terms of low end usage: using Windows 10 on 2GB of RAM is an absolute mistake but Windows 7 can be run okay. But I digress.

>>381314657
Start using linux and use pci passthrough to access either windows 7 or 10 in a virtual machine as needed, pci passthrough means that the vm will have full hardware level access to the gpu so performance is nearly the same sometimes better than natively running windows.

>>381316175
Spotted the /g/angster

>>381313804
>All /g/ will tell you to do is install gentoo

is that an actual OS /g/ uses or just another meme?

>>381313551
The reason /g/ refused to answer your question is because /g/ is NOT the place to discuss video games.

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>All these faggots recommending Win 7
Enjoy your ransomware and lack of software support

>>381316210
Gentoo is a linux distro known for being incredibly difficult to install. Most people suggesting its installation are trolls.

>>381316296
>Enjoy your ransomware
>lack of support
You are dumb. The reason why so many computers running Windows 7 got ransomeware'd is because of the fact that those computers didn't UPDATE. Microsoft had sent out a patch months before hand.

>>381316210
It's a meme

It's an OS that pseudo intellectual NEETs use to justify their existence, even though a pajeet can do it. The secret is that it requires a lot of time to keep it stable, updated and configured, time which the NEETs have it limitless.

A /g/entlemen with a job will laugh at you if you unironically consider gentoo to be a functional and efficient OS.

>>381313551
The only real answer incoming...

Get Windows 10 LTSB and have future-proof operating system without the cancer the other versions have.

>>381316175

Ive often thought about moving to linux and doing something like this. The only thing holding me back is the few dozen windows programs that I love arent available on linux.
I know I could use wine or the vm windows but then it just be pointless using linux really.

>>381315875
What does it break? I've been using the latest version of win 10 and I haven't noticed anything different

One time my pc just restarted for no reason but I've been using win 10 since it launched and since it only happened once it's acceptable

>>381313804
>If you're planning on using it primarily for gaming, you probably have to suck it up and get 10

I rather bite the bullet and go linux than eating w10 pill.

>>381316684
I guess you'd want a list of games that are available on Linux.

>>381313551
8.1. 10 is shit and 7 users are retarded. 8.1 does everything 7 does but better. And yes you can have a start bar if your autism demands it.

>>381314657
Kmspico is what you want

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>>381316296
>block vulnerable ports
>disable smb2
>not clicking on shady links from shady emails
I surf /g/ too

https://steamdb.info/linux/
If you are considering linux, look through the list and honestly determine if it is worth it for you. These are natively supported games. Many more could be run in Wine.

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>Windows 7 Enterprise
>MStoolkit
>latest Windows Update Client

>>381313804
>many games
Name one that matters.

>>381315117
lol

>>381317201
Also you can use a Win10 virtual machine with GPU passthrough to play the rest.

>>381313551
W10 exclusives are relegated to a shitty w10 store with high prices.
If you like w7 keep it, i personally prefer 10 despite the telemetry, but the pick is yours and go with what ure more comfortable with

>>381317201
With most games having denuvo, cracked or not, linux is a shitty option for gaming until vulkan is widely supported

Do I really need to update anything on my cracked Win 7 SP1? I don't think I've ever had a virus or anything. I just use common sense and don't click on anything that triggers my autism sensors

Windows Embedded 7
No need to install any those botnet kit. Just insert a correct CD key and you will set for life

>>381318053
>until vulkan is widely supported
In what, the year 2xxx? Vulkan requires the actual game devs to work on it

>>381318112
I'm on SP1 and I disabled updates before even connecting to the internet, I've had no problems.

>>381318112
Depends. I had to install visual c++ 2015 for redout

>>381313551
No matter what you will have to get W10 anyways in the next 4-5 years because of DX12 exclusivity. As of right now you're shooting yourself in the foot if you install W7. W10 had its problems in the first year or two but now it's fine, the only annoyance is that you have to turn off a bunch of Windows "features" that can hog CPU and spy on you way more than usual, it's not that hard though and you only do it once and you're good though.

Anyone telling you to get W7 is a troll or a moron. If you play video games on PC W10 is inevitable to get until a godsend like a legit SteamOS comes out that is built around browsing the internet, useful basic applications , and total priority for games.

>>381319251
Hi there, Bill. How are the forced updates going?

>>381319251
>he's too stupid to us a VM

>>381313551
If you don't understand why 10 is a giant steaming pile of shit then you are they type of person they designed it for.

>>381319382
>video game virtualization

>>381319478
>he doesn't know about GPU passthrough

>>381319251
>I'd rather have video games than human rights

>>381316654
Bluetooth and bluetooth accessories. At least it did for me. It also doesn't like USB 2.0 devices for some reason. What's worse, if you manage to get it working, it breaks again on the next update.
That's for my hardware, but I recommend waiting for a while before upgrading to 10.

>>381319251
I have more games installed on my Windows 7 PC than I could finish if I played 24/7 for the rest of my life.

>>381317665
This still runs like ass, don't recommend this if you haven't tried it.

>>381318162
No Direct X, what an awesome suggestion.

>>381315796
This this this

I laugh in the face of W7 users that think they're being 1337 hackerz and avoiding the reach of the NSA/Microsoft (they think they're hiding from Microsoft! Hahahahahahahaha)

>>381319350
>Forced updates
Love this meme. What's next, "don't pirate, you'll get a virus!!11"? Don't assume everyone's as computer illiterate as you, fagmo

>>381318162
>Embedded
>you can totally avoid botnet
>oops basic windows function packages require botnet packages as well :v)

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>>381313551
I'm sort of in the same boat. I've been using XP for years, and recently I've been thinking of going to Win7. My PC is what I mainly use for gaming other than my ps3, and now most new games coming out don't support XP, plus I could use more RAM. Installing 7 would probably be better for me, but I'm kind of sentimental/nostalgic with xp.

>>381321123
Windows Updater updates itself no matter what.

>>381313551
Win 7. If you want 10 as well install it into a virtual console or as a dual boot.
Don't listen to win 10 shitters.

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>>381313804
w7 shit on me yesterday, i had to jump to the botnet

at least it works pretty well no compared to my crippled w7 install, also so fucking tired of these threads that it says the game works on win 10 but not on win 7

>>381313551
I didn't upgrade to 10 and stuck with 7 instead. I've never had any problems, of course, with the games I already had run on 7 and I've had no problems with any new games. The only thing I've missed out on were xbox/win10 timed exclusives like quantum break which is available on windows 7 now.

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>>381316175
virtual machines will take huge parts of the performance out, never ever do this

god damn you linux nerds are so entitled little shitheads, you make it seem like it's the holy grail when in fact you get a second job as a linux upkeep repairman when you go for linux cos nothing works out of the box
>b-but i've been using it for years and now it just works!!
yeah I don't have that experience of years and years working with OS that required you to do everything

>>381316296
this, it's just too old, i loved it but now your best choice is to just go with the flow

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>>381322565
>what is GPU pass-through

>>381319509
>he does a second job just he can play games
no thanks

>>381322802
it's still running 2 OS with no reason, also this:
>boot up linux
>boot up vm
>boot up steam
>boot up game
>watch the starting videos and shit
>load up the game
>still waiting
>start playing

it adds and extra step or 2

>>381322819
>he does a second job
what did he mean by this

>>381323006
installing and getting linux to work with your shit takes time and dedication

also when you google linux user problems it's mostly devs talking so you don't even have an idea what they are talking about half time when you just want your games to fucking work

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>>381322565
Linux is easier than Windows if you're not a brainlet.

Step it up.

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>>381323000
>it adds and extra step
oh no

Install Gentoo, faggot

>>381322254
Keep talking shit, maybe it will turn into reality one day

>>381323197
Okay shill.

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>>381323103
linux is either for people who know their way around a terminal or computer illiterates. there's no room for people can't do shit without a gui (most windows users)

>>381323197
it actually does. eventually

>>381313551
no, windows 10 will literally be your nightmare.
Go for Windows 7, if Win7 not supported by CPU - go for Win 8.1 (you can mostly turn it into Win 7 by installing CSM and Winaero)

>>381323079
That's only if you're a retard, and you can do GPU passthrough on Windows too iirc.

>>381323138
I don't even bother to power up a console, too much effort

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>>381323542
doing shit with console commands = look up hours and hours of forum posts and try their pasted shit code lines

it takes up too much time, fuck that

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>>381323103
>So, I've been reading a steady rise in posts about people wanting to switch to Linux. Everyone seems to think they only have three options. 1) Run Windows exclusively, 2) Run Linux exclusively, or 3) Dual boot Windows and Linux. Well, I'm here to tell you that there's a 4th option. Here's the problem. It's going to be tough for a lot of you. I managed to set it up in about 4 days and I've been using Linux for about a decade. How you go about it will depend entirely on your setup. I'll explain mine now.

oh this sounds so easy, it only takes 4 days for me to play games!! thanks linux, now I can spend all my time and energy on linux instead of doing anything else at all

>>381323814
He did it with no guide or instructions, with his guide it will take under an hour. Not like you have anything better to do.

>>381323525
Nice defense, retard

>>381314139
Why would he go with 7 just because he might upgrade in a few years?

>>381324016
Okay, shill.

>>381319552
You are so over dramatic you MUST be gay

>>381324161
>overdramatic
>when the spyware literally violates the UN declaration of human rights
ok

>>381313551
get 8.1
just install classic shell if you cannot stand the "metro" start menu

>>381323972
>Not like you have anything better to do.
I'd rather fiddle with my cock than do anything linux related

>>381319251
Maybe on my next rig, this one is fine and you can fuck off.

Use Win10 faggot, dont live in the past

linux is shit, its only good for autistic ricing, forget it

>>381326414
So you're just a retard with no desire to learn anything ever?

>>381326715
Hello Pajeet, how's your day been?

>>381326763
U confused me.with your brother, lincuck weeb autismo

>2%

>>381326834
Your English is lacking, Pajeet.

>>381326951
2%

>>381327064
DESIGNATED

>>381327128
Chill out pajeet

>>381313551
Windows 10 uses DX12 while Windows 7 (pro) is stuck on DX11.

>>381327272
Enjoying the designated shitting street, Pajeet?

>>381327339
Idk do you?

>>381327332
Name one DX12 exclusive that matters.

>>381314139
>2020 extended support ends on Windows 7 and 8.1

At least something better would appear by then.

>>381327379
I don't work for M$, not sure why you'd think I'm a poo in loo.

>>381327390
Name 1 reason to use a slowly outdated operating system

>>381314139
>support matters
If you're going to install recent updates you might as well use Win10 anyway.

>>381327454
Because it doesn't spy on me, and it isn't missing any features that matter.

>>381327390
They don't. It is just a graphical rendering option.

>>381327546
you use the internet faggot, anyone can spy on you if they want to

>>381327454
>uses DX12 as an argument
>can't explain why anyone should care about DX12
>goes back to the outdated meme

>>381327454

I'd rather be able to play old games. And nothing utilizes DX12.

>>381313551
Just get 10, it isn't bad and is an improvement over 7.

People who cry about muh botnet don't realize that every version of Windows had and has botnet.

>>381327675
>>381327679
>look, i hate new things, can i get an award for being so special?

>>381327631
>being this tech illiterate
>willingly putting keyloggers and suck on your PC

>>381327842
The irony

>>381327808
I like things to work properly, I thought your argument against Linux was that it doesn't always work.

>>381313551
Late to the game, but so people actually buy windows? If I want 7, it's shit easy to find pictures on eBay where the dumb seller includes a pic of the product key. If I want 10, I spend $18 on a windows 8 key and then update to 10 for free with Windows 10 for accessibility impaired people (literally VINALLA windows 10)

>>381327910
What doesnt work properly on win10?

>>381327896
What did NSA-kun mean by this?

>>381328006
Older games.

Honestly you should just get Win10 anyway.
Microsoft is pretty much enforcing it at this rate, but be wary on pirating.

>>381328008
>i will stop the nsa from spying on me by using win7 instead of 10!


Fuck, nsa just got btfo

>>381327718
If that was true MS wouldn't be putting botnet into newer updates for 7 and 8.1

all the Xbone exclusives that are ported to Windows only work on Windows 10.

Windows 7 stopped receiving security patches since 2015, so installing it wouldn't be a good idea at all.

>>381313551
windows 7.

you should never touch 10 under any circumstances.

ignore anyone who tells you otherwise

alternatively, install gentoo.

>>381328091
Yes, because if you install a clean ISO of 7 SP1 and never update it, it doesn't have keyloggers etc.

>>381328103
Back to g you autistic manchild

>>381328035
Like?

>>381328097
None of them are any good though.

>>381328103
You were doing fine until the install Gentoo meme, now no one will listen to you.

>>381327546
>Because it doesn't spy on me
Are you sure? You wanna run some connection trackers while you go about your daily business to see how wrong you are?

>>381328208
i actually avoid /g/ since they refuse to be my personal tech support

>>381328191
Oh okay you a retard, nvm

Nsa btfod again, will they recover??

>>381328208
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2972271/software-games/windows-10-wont-run-some-older-cd-rom-games-thanks-to-drm.html
And more.

>>381328330
Not an argument, if you have a point, get to it.

>>381328191
>being this delusional

>>381328369
Point is that you are a retard

>>381328334
I can play GTA 4 on my win 10 pc

>>381328457
>>381328395
Not an argument.

>>381328457
>>381328395
Not an argument.

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>>381313551
Windows 10 has Direct X 12. Benchmarks show DX12 gets you about 5fps more in current gen games.

>>381327808

It's not that I hate new things. It's that I have fond memories of old things. I've already run into multiple favorites that don't work right (or sometimes don't run at all) on Win10. And I'm not talking about old shit from like mid 1990s. I'm talking games from the late 2000s that no longer work.

It's why I laugh at these PC masterbaters who are like "HAHAHAHA I HAVE TEN OF THOUSANDS OF GAMES! STUPID CONSOLE PLAYERS!". No you don't. Especially if you have Win10. Win7 was the last Windows OS that had robust backwards compatibility with old PC games. Win8.1 and Win10 blow fat donkey dick if you want to play older titles.

>>381328579
Do you honestly think that some shitty Windows version can stop someone as big as NSA?

>>381328676
5fps lmao

>>381328575
>>381328579
Reply to me again and i will put a keylogger on your pc kid

>>381328735
No, and I never said it did. I said it wouldn't be actively helping the NSA spy on me.

>>381328827
Not an argument

>>381328893
you are using the internet you retard, no win or linshit version will stop the Nsa from fucking you

>>381329021
Except that when I unplug my internet, my PC doesn't continue to watch everything I do, then send the data when I reconnect. Windows 10 does.

with w10 you wont have to worry about updates and patches and all that shit
and just as dx12 is a meme, telemetry is too. what do you care? i just play my games, watch my porn and browse the internet. why is everybody parroting the "they're spying on us!" meme? if you play videogames, you don't have anything important to hide. you might have something if you were some corporate jew planing his next scheme, but since you just said you saved cash in order to buy a gaming pc, you sure as hell have nothing important to hide.

tl;dr: GET 10.

>>381329107
Moron

>>381327808
One day Ms will make an OS that tells you when to play, when to surf the web, when to eat and when to sleep, and you will take it whole down your throat like a good goy

>>381329143
>nothing to hide nothing to fear
Why care about free speech when you clearly have nothing to say?

>>381329218
Not an argument

>>381313804
>M$ is pushing 10 by making many games Exclusive to w10

Which they're continuing to backpedal on, like with quantum break and killer instinct

>>381329240
worst analogy ever

>>381329623
Free speech and privacy are both human rights, the analogy is fine.

>>381329240
And what do you have to say?

>linux posters in this thread
I thought you guys are too mature for a manchild board like /v/, what brings you 100+ IQ gentlemen to this savage of a shithole?

>>381329886
Are you being retarded on purpose?

>>381329775
except nobody is stripping you from your privacy when you install windows. you are accepting to share your information the moment you agree to the "terms and conditions". and if you think you're special person and have special shit in your pc that nobody should know about, guess what...

i am just saying, it is just fine telling microsoft, facebook and google that you like thai traps and heavy metal concert videos.

>>381330086
I like video games and shitposting, and I don't want to ruin a good board with either of those things.

>>381319596
>Bluetooth and bluetooth accessories
you too? I thought I'm the only one who need to remove every device first just to use the bluetooth

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>>381313551
Win10 is easy to pirate if you have the Microsoft Toolkit, and you can get rid of some of the extra botnet shit with Ultimate Windows Tweaker. I'd recommend that.

>>381330159
Contracts that violate human rights are not valid, your acceptance means nothing.

>>381313551
I like 7 more because with my own personal experience with 10 I had bugs playing older games, and I like playing older games as much as my newer games. But I have Both on my computer 10 on one hard drive and 7 on another. I still prefer 7

>>381330363
Online privacy =/= IRL privacy
Unless you're autistic and consider your computer part of your body.

>>381316459
Aw shit I got memed by /g/

>>381330363
well good job on preventing them from violating your human rights inside your safe, comfy -released in 2009 and last updated in 2015-
and unbreakable fortress that is windows 7

i just fucking hate that retarded tablet interface shit that w10 has

>>381330256
>Ultimate Windows Tweaker
Are we sure we should be giving computer advice here, lad?

Use Vista instead

>>381330716
Which is why websites watching your online activity is acceptable. Windows 10 can use your camera and microphone to watch you in your home, which violates your actual privacy.

>>381330758
I'm still confused as to why you retards always pretend that updates matter, beyond being a way for MS to make 7 and 8.1 like 10. If you're smarter than a rock, you won't get a virus.

>>381331142
>you retards always pretend that updates matter
to me they matter because i wont have to worry abou them in a long time. maybe OP doesnt want windows update services to be always running, fetching for nothing. he just wants a hassle-free installation and not to worry about them frequently. we retards dont have time or patience to manually search and install updates.
if you're building a new system, a w10 installation wont require you to "have fun" fixing it a month later

>>381313551
Just pick up 10 and don't look up kiddie porn or whatever.

>>381332089
But it's the Windows 10 update services that are always running, fetching for nothing. You can disable Windows 7 and 8.1 updates completely, including disabling the update itself. I agree with some of your points, but they don't apply to 10.

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>>381316296
>ransomware
not even bad

>>381314194
>goods and bads

>>381316409
>updating
Enjoy your spyware.

>>381333145
>thinking not updating will change anything
It's 2017, luddite. There are backdoors to backdoors.

>>381333698
Not in an OS made in 2009.

>>381334319
I'm sure.