Should I recruit her /v/? It's fucking retarded she comes

>>381293537
You recruit girls for how cute they look, not how useful they will be.

fight it out

>>381294304
/thread

>>381294304
If I could just see my CF, I wouldn't care, but this bitch ain't worth losing Debonair or Destin over.

PC emulator, with mouse as the gamepad. Absolutely amazing. Only thing is it is a tad slow vs the console.

>>381293537
use the item glitch abuse and forgett about this bitch,

>>381294564
You already got the valkyrie girl, and hopefully the healer daughter of the berserker. You are set man.

>>381294673
Literally the only special character I care about is Destin. Sheen didn't offer to join me, and Liedel and Ankiseth joined, so I know I must be in the higher-bracket of CF, but I've been fucked out of Debonair and Destin before.
Next run I'm gonna go low to get Calibur.

>>381294564
destin is a much better character, the man spares your llife if you do the bad ally shit ending, go for destin

>>381294673
P.S. I think you mean Leia and Katreda?
Aisha and Liedel are way cuter.

>>381293537
I got her. As long as you are playing correctly you'll still be able to get the zenobians.

Well I have to honestly say that a OB64 thread was the last thing i expected to see today

Now I want to play this again. My biggest nightmare is enemy keep running away into mountains. Chasing them is a pain.

>>381295151
It's FFT's 20th anniversary, so it's natural today is Matsuno day

>>381295113
I've got her and the Zenobians (it will always be a Z to me, fuck LUCT), I think my CF is way more than needed, I think Destin only needs a 34? I was just wondering if /v/ thought I should go for her or not, I can take her or leave her.
>>381295151
It's my goat, I never see it discussed. >>381295201
Target Leader as the battle strategy, then they can't retreat and will walk around until they camp. They you corner them while they sleep. >>381295308
Matsuno actually didn't have anything to do with OB64.

>>381295346
Good idea. Thanks anon!

>>381295346
I grabbed her, but she really isnt that good at all.

CF strategy is just get neutral guys to go to neutral towns, get good guys to go to good towns, and get bad guys to go to bad towns right?

And I should let the dark skinned friend I start out with go holy?

if you kill the leader they start running away from to the mountains man no thanks,

>>381295346
>Matsuno actually didn't have anything to do with OB64.
Not directly, you are correct. But the entire Ogre Saga is written by him. Quest continued to work on various chapters to the Saga after he got poached by Squaresoft.

>>381295510
if you have3 hours to finish the map without killing the negro abomination ,then do it .

>>381295510

Yeah it's a weird detail but you have to make Knights, Priests, etc go for towns with high morale and characters like Wizards, Barbarians go for low morale towns. I think Neutral ones can go for whatever but I not 100% sure on that.

Regardless what you're looking for is the leader to say that the town was "liberated" instead of "captured"

>>381293537
>not just cheating to disable CF
chaos frame litlerally ruins TO. the TO games are so much fun without CF

I've never played OB64. The lack of control in battle seemed like a turn off. I've also never been a fan of games where you fill your squad with grunts.

KoL and LUCT are fan-fucking-tastic though.

>>381295510
CF increases in two ways. If the town is 0-33 morale you go Chaotic, if it's 34-66 you go Neutral and if it's 67+ you go Lawful for the unit leader who liberates it. This will add generally 1-2 to your CF depending how close you are. The second major factor is the story decisions. Considering the max CF is 100, and some choices like making peace with the Western Division is worth 20+, and Saying "....." at Frederick's execution is a -20 score, they really matter. Also getting certain special characters affects your CF. For instance, getting Vad gives you +10, but getting Sheen or Europea is -10. Personally I think the story points are more important, but you have to pay attention if you don't want to tank. You start with a CF of 50, and the highest requirement for a recruitment I believe is 60 for Gilbert, however you only need over 34 to get the good ending. So if you pay attention it shouldn't be hard.
>>381295510
You mean Vad? He's the trick, at the start of the mission DON'T GO RIGHT, AT ALL. Go north and liberate the second town by the bridge, which causes it to be destoryed. Vad will now go South to Nanika and not move out of the town, so as long as you don't attempt to liberate it, he will join you at the end. Also I think you needed to free the Boulmakans, but that could be wrong.

>Rent this game like 10 times as a kid
>Got the bad ending each time

I remember it being obscure as fuck and not really telling you the "proper" way to play. Like how are you supposed to know you have to "liberate" every town to get the good end? Or how to recruit like half the characters?

>>381296034
If you sent neutral units to most towns and made the right story decisions, the good ending isn't hard at all to get once you know. However, I agree the first few times I got the bad ending because I just took entire maps with my super-unit.

What options do you pick in the very beginning of the game?

>What dost thou hold within thy sword?
>What shalt thou sever with thy sword?
>For what shall thou beseech the gods?
>What shalt thou offer the gods?
>What dost thou wish for?
>What shalt thou rid from this land?

>>381296118
>just took entire maps with my super-unit
Me too

>>381295876
I'm a sucker for just menu-ing and grinding your set-up. I like the making the team and letting it go wild, seeing if you prepped right. Completely understandable why some people wouldn't like this though.

>>381296189
The options that net me the knight units and the blessed sword.
>Passion, Silence, Trust, Freedom, Fertility, Law

>>381296118
How do you liberate a town? Does your leader alignment just have to match with the town alignment? Or is it an average of your entire unit? How can you tell?

Didn't this game take up a lot of space on a N64 cart or something? It certainly has a lot of content going on for it.

>>381296382
Lawful to high morale town
neutral to middle morale town
chaotic to low morale town

I believe it considers your whole unit.

>>381296382
If you select a town on the map, a little window will pop up telling you the towns morale. 0-33, 34-66 and 68+ are the three average alignments you need to use to liberate each. So say a town has a moral of 12, you want to send a chaotic unit. If the units alignment (which you can only vaguely guess) is very close, usually you get +2 to your CF, if it's sort of close, within 20 you get +1. If you send a Lawful unit, your CF would not increase at all. Also, DON'T CAPTURE GREEN TOWNS. Liberating a neutral town nets you -1 or -2 CF, but you also need to protect them from being captured by the enemy as losing a neutral town is -2 to -3 CF.
>>381296590
No it only considers the Ali of the unit leader.

>>381296590
Actually I think it's who you pick as the leader that counts the most.

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Explain to me in 100 words or less why I should emulate this game

>>381296787
It's arguably the best game on the N64, if not the best RPG.

>>381296787
no.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI4SyuVcRk0

>>381296934
you've convinced me

>>381297167
Works everytime

>>381296679
How do you change your leader alignment again? Was it just by fighting opposite alignment enemies?

>>381297331
Allegedly. Personally I think the game is self aware and intends to push your units in the opposite direction as what you want. You have a knight? Ali Down Ali Down Ali Down. You have a Wizard? Ali Up Ali Up Ali Up. I think the game wants to have everyone level out around 50, but I can't be sure. Just get a Scroll/Urn and dupe them to get whatever Alis you want.

I vaguely remember watching someone else play the game, and instead of a boss fight with Yumil they fought Procus. But I don't know how they went about doing that, every time I play I fight the former.

>>381297838
There are some choices which change throughout the game. For instance instead of fighting Xevec, you can fight Dio if you lost him, or Ankiseth instead of Baldwin.
As for the fight you're talking about, that completely depends on your CF. Low CF is Procus, high CF is Yumil

>>381297838
Recuit Ankiseth but have low cf i think.

>>381298090
Pretty sure it doesn't matter if you got Ankiseth for that one.

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*blocks your path*

Destin in Ogre Battle 64 is the protagonist from the SNES game. They have the same headband and everything.

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>>381298702
Oh yeah?
>>381298828
Yes...they tell you that. They flat out say, "He is the hero of the Zenobian Revolution that overthrew Zyteginia"

>>381297331
Being a dick makes you chaotic, so:
Attacking lower level enemies.
Attacking lawful enemies.
Attacking fleeing enemies

Thats the main thing I remember.

anyone here a fan of Tactics Ogre Knight of Lodis?
probably my favorite GBA game ever
I replay it every couple years

>>381299061
I think that's only in Black Queen, not Lordly Caliber

>>381299080
I like it. I prefer the two OB games over the two TO games, but it's one of my favorite game series over-all. The class system in it was interesting.

>>381299080
Too bad I will never, EVER know someone else who owns the game to play multiplayer.
I seem to remember one of the bosses having those multiplayer-only emblems, and it made me mad, because I'll never get those!

Has anyone played both March of the Black Queen and OB64? How would you compare them? I've been through about 20 chapters in MotBQ and still didn't really get into it. I was planning on restarting because my reputation was fucked and I had characters who'd never be able to promote (low alignment and low charisma. I don't know how you're supposed to lower ALI but keep CHA high).

>>381299615
I got a second game off ebay, along with a pair of GBAs and a link cable, just so I could get the multiplayer stuff in KoL.

Completely breaks tha game though, even moreso than Quest Mode.

>>381294304
this is the only way to play Ogre battle

>>381299638
I have, I love them both but OB64 has more polish and is just better put together. Too bad they couldn't remake the original in 64's engine.

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>>381299615
>that feel when I had a friend who had the game too growing up
>stomped him into the ground with my gameshark'd team
>he was none the wiser

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so how likely did leia and magnus fuck?
also
>tfw putting dio, magnus, and leia on a team for the final fight

>>381299975
Have any tips for me? My reputation tanked because I liberated every town I saw. I didn't realize until halfway I should be liberating with a high ALI character, but once I started doing that it didn't seem to make a difference. Is there the same chaos/neutral/lawful town system that 64 apparently has?

>>381299080
I've actually got the Japan-only strategy guide. Interestingly, there's some data in there that I haven't found on any English site. Some of the classes have inherent offense and defense boosts, which is why two character with identical stats can do wildly different damage if they're in different classes.

>>381300538
I am not nearly as familiar with MOTBQ as I am 64, I'm sorry. I'm sure there is a good guide to it out there though.I don't know if MOTBQ had the morale system or if it's based solely on story choices.
>>381300596
Well there are also different types of damage most people don't see, like strike, slash and blunt

They need to make a hack for this with more difficult enemy unit formations.

I'll probably never play it again I've done the first two chapters a dozen times but it's about the best the N64 had to offer as far as strategy role-playing games..

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>there are people in this thread, RGIHT NOW, who let dio go

>>381300596
I seem to remember ninjas getting killed super fast, and fencers blocking more and hitting harder despite using the inferior bastard sword.

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What am I in for bros?

>>381293537
>>/vr/

>>381300923
a really underrated game that deserved more games in the series.

>>381300795
They really need more maps with endless enemies like the last one. You're right and more competent AI and formations.
>>381300923
A good time
>>381300969
Fuck off faggot. This thread is more video games than anything else on here.

>>381300923
What unique units does Australian Ogre Battle offer?

>>381300923
Buy one of every weapon and armor.

>>381300969
>stop talking about video games on my board
>start talking about ecelebs and console wars or at the very least say something negative

>>381300923
I fucking hate Australian hours

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>>381300990
>>381301127
>>381301219
So does it matter what I choose in the beginning? I've already chosen but if it's bad I can always restart

>>381301127
Made me laugh. Good job.

>>381301392
It determines what units and items you start with. Here:
https://www.gamefaqs.com/n64/198230-ogre-battle-64-person-of-lordly-caliber/faqs/56998

I know Gamefaqs and all, but it's helpful.

>>381301392
yeah, your string of choices decides what your army will look like/units you'll have and what items you receive

>>381301480
>i know gamefaqs and all
nigga, there's nothing wrong with using the guides on gamefaqs and shit if you want to use guides, but fuck. Don't visit the boards.

t. person who frequented lots of boards including the couch and shit and met some cool people back in like 2005-8 before it turned to even more shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vFRmsQ8FYY
when shit gets real

>>381301392
I don't think it's a huge deal determines your element, you get one 2nd "tier" weapon and what beast you get. I used to like to get hellhounds for their x3 attack but it's nothing worth looking a guide up over.

Unless you want to know what Chaos Frame is and will have to consult a guide because the biggest thing that raises and lowers it I don't believe is ever explicitly explained.

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>>381293537
>putting yourself in the most danger to save your friends gets you the worst possible ending
>to get the best ending, you hide behind a bunch of devil worshippers and pick and choose what civilians to save only based on personal gain
>all so you can send someone else to fight the final boss for you
Terrible design. Just garbage.

>>381300478
Magnus was canonically homosexual, and was one of the first homosexual protagonists in a videogame. Poor Meredia is stated by some townsfolk to have a tragic unrequited love with him "but he's too interested in a childhood friend".

Leia never liked Magnus, and she snuck off to join the Army and the Southern Division to avoid an Arranged Marriage and her father. She grows to respect him through his skill in battle and the decisions he makes through the game, but they never have a romantic bond.

There is a fuck ton of stuff in the Art Book and shit too that goes into a lot of back story elements that is never touched upon in the game itself.

>>381301649
My best online friend is a guy I first met on the NFL board on gamefaqs nine years ago.

But yes, the boards are for the most part swill.

>>381300906
Yeah, ninjas take 10% extra physical damage, while swordmasters deal an extra 15%.

Liches, hilariously enough, have a 70% reduction in the physical damage they take. They're quite tanky.

>>381301803
>Magnus was canonically homosexual
Source

>>381301858
I met this cool dude ages ago named Theron and I haven't been able to talk to him since my AIM account got locked out. It's been years. I hope he's doing okay.

Fuck man.

>>381301927
>Physical hits are going to hurt a corpse
Dude, it's like trying to slash a skeleton.

>>381301973
I'm interested in the source as well, but honestly if you play the game a couple times it seems really obvious. I mean, they could say they are really close friends, but they sound more like lovers (especially Yumil) throughout the game.

>>381302108
I never really got the impression he and Yumil were lovers. That's like saying Suzaku and Lelouch were gay for each other.

>>381301973
JP Art Book - there were scans of it years ago on LiveJournal.

Also townspeople comment on it. Let me check the extracted game script that I have somewhere on my computer, one moment.

>>381302192
Yumil literally becomes a woman at the end of the game. He was Magnus's trap.

You will be tested in chapter 6.

>>381301803
>Magnus was canonically homosexual
but in the best ending he literally has a son

>>381302302
There are only 4 chapters.

>>381301995
It happens to everyone, used to be friends with a whole group we'd play video games together and had our own invisionfree board, now I only have one left and he's first born is due next month. I know I'm on the way out.

They introduced me to this website way back then and now I'm going to be the only one left.

I fucking loved this game as a kid. 10/10 plot, soundtrack and characters. I wish Matsuno would make more games, it still triggers me what happened with FF12.

>>381296590
Oh and don't go after neutral town ever.

>>381302256
nice source

>>381302256
Barkeep: Hey, how 'bout a drink? I don't understand you kids these days. My son's an idiot... ...He's growing his hair out... I didn't raise him to be no sissy-girl. You would know about that though, eh? He claims it's some tradition from Indigo. What the hell is that? Some kind of protest?

Young Woman - Prince Yumil passed through on his way west!? I really wanted to see him. We share the same birthday, my mother always brags about it. He wouldn't be interested in me though. I hear he's only interested in his friend.

Woman - So you're back looking for the prince again? Always looking for that prince, when are you going to try to find a princess? Even a girl would do nicely for a nice young man like you.

Man - Rhade's with the prince again... Going to toughen him up... He doesn't want the prince to be a sissy like he was years ago. Always with that friend of his, it was no good. We need a proper heir!

Peddler - Hey, mister. How 'bout this for your girl? Oh, you don't want a girl? Well, everyone needs a special someone!

And other shit that I don't want to pick through the script for.

>>381298402
Are they worth the love and peace?

>>381299080
I think I am strange for thinking so but I like the story in TKoL.

I always went by liberating was +0.5 and capturing was -2 and you always capture a neutral village.

I did the bad end every time so I get more space to grow my own troops.

If anyone reading this hasn't played the Tactics Ogre PSP remake, play it immediately.

>>381303580
The level system is retarded and encourages you to stay in the starting classes.

>>381303102
Add onto this his interactions with Magnus and his interactions with Mari.
>Yumil: I want you to be by my side... Magnus... Why can't you stay here? With me? Why... Why do you always have to go... Why do you always have to leave me... I need you...
>Yumil: Magus... Magnus came to me.... But I'm once again alone. ...What should I do? I want him to look up to me... No, I want him to be bound to me!
>Yumil: Magus is more than my Knight! I won't let you hurt him! I won't!

And how Townsfolk mention that they are so happy that the Prince is with a woman now and how there might actually be a chance for the kingdom.

>>381303580
It's one of my favorite games.

>>381303710

DESU this is my only problem with it. if new classes came in at an appropriate level it would be the perfect tactics game.

>Get the Princess class for Denam's sister
>Have to level it all the way from 1

>>381295778
Chaotic units should capture towns from like 1-35 morale, neutral should capture something like 36-65, and Lawful should capture 65-100 or some fuckin' thing like that. Numbers are probably a bit off. The class doesn't matter, you just need to line up alignment and morale.

>>381303819
You've never had a friend who was just such a bro you had to lovingly put your penis into his ass? It's not gay.
If you can't understand such a platonic bond, then how sad your world must be.

>>381303819

Even as a kid when I played this I got that there was something up with Yumil & Magnus

>>381304121
Yumil was so much like a trap it is Ok.

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>>381303096
The book is $85 at least and super rare. I apologise for not having all of the pages scanned and translated for you anymore because it has been at least 5 years since the source was taken down.

I have shit like this that doesn't help, but as you can see, the Art Book has descriptions/backstory for each character and comments by the team even from this page.

>>381303103
No.

Except for one mission where angel knights might be useful, but it is much easier to get a Platinum Dragon instead and it fills the same role.

They are like Vampires.

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>No new Matsuno game ever

>>381294654
item glitch?

just got a boxed copy of this the other weekend at my flea market. cool game so far, wish it got more noticed.

>>381304841
But muh Jihad.

I guess I should use the love and peace on Sphinx instead.

>>381293537
Just keep liberating those towns and you'll be fine. You can get Sheen, too, while still maintaining a chaos frame that will earn you the Zenobians.

>>381304984
>using non-human units
Disgusting. All you need is Drakonite dude.
>>381305130
My CF was too high to get Sheen.

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Also, something fun:
>Although it was not certain, there have been mysterious rumors that he was really a woman dressed as a man.

>>381305442
Dude what.

>>381305614
Are you saying that a strong Knight can't just be a woman pretending to be a man for the power and position to compete with her hated brother, Richard?

>>381305169
You see, you need to play the game with a paper or something and keep tabs on your proposed CF.

Everytime you liberate or capture places, and change it as necessary to grab every character.

Otherwise, how can you expect to actually play the game? You might as well just use the drakonite books and train your way to 100% victory, or duplicate the items to make an invincible magnus.