>yfw Atlus' next milking of Persona is a Persona 3 remake

wouldnt they remake the first two games first

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>>381266560
>actually believing this

Atlus doesn't give a fuck about P3. They're either going to now move onto milking P5 starting with Crimson or P4:G will be remade in the engine.

>>381266560
nah, they're not going to have two protagonists. That hurts the canon.

So they're just gonna do FeMC-only and retcon it.

>>381266815
>starting with Crimson
>Crimson

Where the fuck did this Crimson meme come from? Reminds me of Pokemon faggots and Delta Emerald which never came out. Get fucked retards.

>>381267130
Because Persona 4 Golden, so Persona 5 Crimson.

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The Persona team are working on this, so don't expect a new Persona game any time soon.

>>381267320
Persona 5 Crimson would have to be on a portable system then, and it would have to come out after P6.

Ew, no.

>Going back to blobs and heartless knockoffs after glorious HD demons

>>381266560
Fuck you, now I want this despite knowing it won't happen. This is going to bother me for a long time.

>>381267896
Hashino in general has said he's exhausted everything he feels he can do with a modern setting, so expect someone else to take over the series when Atlus gets around to pumping out more Persona.

>>381266560
That's silly. They should just do an Akihiko game that follows him from the early SEES days of him, Shinji and Mitsuru, right through to his cop days when he's on the street dodging bullets and punching dudes in the face.

>>381267569
Too bad it won't come out til 2020 at the earliest.

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>>381266560
A P3 remake is honestly pretty likely at this rate. A P3 remake with the Answer included is not as likely, but still possible. FemMC remake will never happen, especially if there's animated cutsceens in a remake, which there would be.

>>381266560
>>381268906

They better tone down the difficulty and allow you to control your party members.

Getting stuck at some random mid-boss around the 20ish level should not be happening to a seasoned SMT player.

>>381266560
I would buy it

>Persona 3 but every section of Tartarus is now like a full fledged dungeon instead of randomly generated hallways
>full moon battles stay the same but random encounters are now replaced with classic SMT demons
>new content added during the empty segments of the game (fucking December)
>full party control with battles adjusted to balance it out so it's not as easy as P3P
>both FeMC and The Answer are available
I'll buy it

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>>381269154

Why? Why would anyone want an old game remade?

>>381269272
Remade old games have the comfort of the old game with the upgrades of being on a new system.

So many more people would play SMT 1 and 2 if they remade it for the PS4 and you got to watch Thor nuke Tokyo.

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Any sane person would rather see something new than a remake of P3 os all things.
I respect P3 because thet's the game which started it all, but it's the most shallow of the nu-Persona series
Also one can argue that Persona 5 is what P3 should have been in the first place so it's doesn't need to be remade
bringinf FES (and some other Atlus titles) to the newer consoles and PC could be good though

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>>381267569
I'm not sure why, but for some reason I expect this game to have a cute brown girl.

>>381267569
>The Persona team are working on this
No they aren't.

>>381267569
It's only the director who moved on to this project. He also mentioned that someone else is taking over.

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>>381269154

>>381266560
Meh, I wasn't wild about 3 ,so I'll pass.

>>381269689
>Also one can argue that Persona 5 is what P3 should have been in the first place so it's doesn't need to be remade

How?

>3 is the most shallow in the series

Um, no sweetie. Unlike P5, the characters in 3 actually go through development and have their own personal arcs in the story. Have you even played 3?

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>>381266560
Their remake policy is getting borderline retarded.
We're getting 2 DS remakes this year. On 3DS which is backward compatible and can play both of those games.

>>381270118
Because RH and SJ aren't remakes.

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>>381270015
Same urban setting, same type of mystery about an epidemic of people losing their mind in the city, same sort of cast with teenage character with parental issues, same overreaching plot with a conspiracy of villains using experimental research for no good, same final boss, even Mementos is a reversed Tartarus

Also it's good for you if take seriously a game which has a sentient android who goes to high school and somehow falls in love with the MC, but the character development in P3 is pretty standard for a 2000 edgy light-novel based anime which is what this game is
>Unlike P5, the characters in 3 actually go through development and have their own personal arcs in the story.
That happens in P5 as well, did you play it ?

>>381266560
It wouldn't be enough of an improvement to bother with.

What's so wrong about the good ending?

>>381269272

Play Metroid 1 and then Zero Mission.

>>381266560
P4 would come first.
P3's "dungeons" sucked.
But I wouldn't made remaster/remake for the games. Especially if they came with a in house translation of the game. P5 appears to have a shitty localization.

>>381270979
Koro's ready to fucking fight

>>381267320

Persona 3 FES was because of the Festival. Persona 4 Golden was because of Golden Week.

Unless there's a "Crimson Tatami Week" or some similar shit in Japan, no chance that the upgraded version will be called Crimson.

Persona 5 Bordeaux is a much funnier fake name

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What will persona5 engine in P3 accomplish? Empty floors in HD?

>>381270118
Well you can't really remake DS games for any other platform without cutting the dualscreens.

>>381267569
this has berserk vibes to it. I usually dislike medievil settings but I'm praying this will be good.

>>381266646
what 2 games? persona started with 3, are you retarded?

>>381271483
Since they'd be making both games from scratch instead of rereleasing them with the same assets like they did in the past, it would be a good opportunity to replace randomly generated dungeons.

>>381266560
>we want old game but new!
no you faggots should want new games, what's wrong with you.

Would rather they remake 1&2 with updated gameplay, if they have to remake anything at all. They have better stories than 3 did by miles but need a gameplay rework more than 3 does, so they should be prioritised.

>>381266646

God, please no. I actually like the first two. I couldn't imagine it happening though since there's no way to force the school system into the games.

>>381271805
I don't know about Radiant Historia, but SJ had virtually no use for the bottom screen other than the convenience of constant access to the map.

>>381272352
You're right. People love a Persona 5 Dancing All Night over a Persona 3 Definitive Edition.

>>381269726
cute orc girl is more likely judging from the concept art

>>381272736
It probably would, no one gives a shit about Persona 3
and it doesn't need a "Definitive Edition" at all

>>381270979
Confidant links don't count and even if they did, their development revolves around the player's involvement with them, whereas P3's party members has character arcs that occured in the main story, without using MC as a crutch to get there. Futaba is arguably the only one, overcoming her issues with her mother's death and them quickly sweeping her shut-in tendencies under the rug in short succession, so they can move on with the story.

>>381266560
I wish

>>381272610

I will admit that, thought Persona 1 and 2 are by far my favorite (I only kinda like, kinda hate the rest of the series), I wouldn't mind the gameplay being given an update as long as anyone can still use a plethora of Personas. Though I have a feeling that they'd fuck the atmosphere and music extremely hard.

>>381273359
They already kind of did that with 1 PSP with the new OST, though the PSP remakes of 2 don't have much downsides

>>381273174
>whereas P3's party members has character arcs that occured in the main story
No moreso than in P5. Ryuji gets over his obsession with fame, Morgana gets his head out of his ass, and so on. In both P3 & P5 the casts largely dicksuck the hell out of the protagonist beyond reasonable means. Go play the first two Persona games instead of meming that they don't exist while praising P3 for shit that at best only applies negligibly more to it than it does it's successors.

I dunno why people insist that Confidants "don't count" either. What do you guys who keep saying that even do in the gaps between story events in these games if the slinks don't exist to you?

>>381272875
>Cute Orc girl
I want this so fucking bad. Too bad most games only show focus on male orcs or treat them as elf rapists. Especially nips.

>>381273675

Yeah, the PSP soundtrack just did not do the game justice. I wanted to play the PSP version because of the improvements, but I ended up playing the Japanese PSX version for the soundtrack. It would have been a lot more annoying if not for being able to turbo through battles and save state before I bought anything because when shopping you can't see how equipment compared to what you're currently wearing.

>>381273861
>Ryuji gets over his obsession with fame, Morgana gets his head out of his ass

Yes all happen right at the end of the game which is like 90 hours in and Ryuji isn't the only one who gets over the fame obsession since the whole team had the same problem so let's not pretend it was something only specific to his character development. You had early people like Ann and Yusuke who stayed static until the end.

And nah in P3 there was no major case of dick sucking since characters even turned you down to go dungeons and told you to fuck off and at end game when it comes to the matter of fighting the end boss the characters in P3 came to a decision without the MC like in 5 where he gave some shitty "don't give up" to every member and they all did a 180.

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>The Answer

>>381271483
It was rushed, there's no doubt, but the only part where the intentions of the original scenes are largely betrayed is Goro's fight. Atlus USA couldn't figure out the part where he actually has himself convinced that he had a moral high ground killing people with distorted desires because bringing Shido to justice is the big excuse used to cover up his own. Instead what they ended up with sounded no different from Adachi's bullshitting about how he actually didn't do anything in P4.

They got the part where he chimps out at Joker right, the part where he prolongs having to accept his fuck ups by making himself Rampage right, but with the stuff immediately before all that they only really got the synopsis and the acknowledgement angle right.

>>381268906
>>381269154
>>381266560
What's wrong with P3P?
That's a pretty fine remake.

Should I start with P1, 2, 3 or 4?

>>381274689
You can only use swords as Door-kun and polearms as Door-tan. And you can't spam armageddon.

>>381274886
2 duology has the best plot
3 has the best atmosphere
4 has the best Chad Thundercock simulator
1 has P5 MC's dad.

>>381275150
which is the comfiest

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>>381275150
TAKASHI KIDO

>>381266560
Atlus payed for like 5 different Persona 5 domains A few weeks back.

>>381275327
4 Golden.

>>381274949
I don't see the problem.

>>381275345
But every company buy domains they never use

>>381275417
aw sheeit my vita might actually see some use now

>>381266646
I honestly wish. They're long overdue for remakes at this point, and I think Atlus could do a lot of good with that, but sadly it seems that the first two Personas aren't really that popular or relevant.

>>381275546
Persona 1 was the highest selling Persona in Japan until 5.

>>381273861
>In both P4 & P5 the casts largely dicksuck the hell out of the protagonist beyond reasonable means.
Ftfy

Having character development locked behind content that you can ignore means that the devs didn't think it meant enough to include in the main game, which is a shame because some of those confidants could have fit. It's more glaring in P5 because it's Phantom Thieves Time all day everyday with no breaks. P3 and 4 gave their casts time to breathe and opportunity for these sorts of things to occur between the main plot points. Even on their trip to Hawaii, the P5 characters are thinking about being Phantom Thieves. They even comment about how they're basically doing the same thing they do back home.

>>381275441
You can't punch Gigas with cute Jack Bros gloves unless you're using Akihiko.
If you don't see the issue then I guess you're the problem.
Also the SoL events like Operation Babe Hunt and the Kyoto Trip are entirely VN style

>>381268291
Either that, or he'll try doing something either in the past or future.

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>>381266560
> yfw remake P4G instead with P5 graphics

>people wanting them to use a last-gen engine
P5 looks like a polished PS3 game. How about they get off their fucking asses, stop being cheap fucks, and make a next-gen engine.

>>381269154
I'm pretty sure that not controlling your party members is part of the fun with Persona, it's like actually working with other people instead of just giving them exact orders to follow.

>>381275639
That's why he's the head of the new Fantasy game, right?

>>381275509
And one persona 3 domain.
A Persona 3 dancing all night domain.

But will it actually be fun to play?

>>381275795
>Implying P3DAN doesn't stand for Dating Aigis New

Since P3 and P4 goes with jpop music and P5 gets a little jazzy, what kind of setting would go with metal/punk music for persona?

>>381275441
It completely unfair to door-kun.

First they forced him to date an ugly ass robot that ruins the game setting, then they added an epilogue where his waifu(s) go full retard.
A couple of years later they remove his special snowflake ability to wield any weapon with ease and make his broken ass spells less spamable, and add a way more likable main character.
To add insult to injury they make Protag fuck his waifu(s).

>>381266818
FemC is even more dead than door man to atlus

>>381275624
So it's just your preference then?
Nothing hindered the gameplay, and things even more balanced yet you say that as an issue.

Which one is the REAL problem here I wonder.

I'm honestly expecting Vita spin-offs for P5 and a handheld version for Switch.
The Vita spin-offs I expect mainly because they had a survey done last year in regards to what Persona fans wanted, and among more music and DRPG spinoffs, the Vita was the most requested platform with PS4 next, and 3DS third.
Since the 3DS is terrible, the Switch will get what the 3DS fans wanted.

>>381274454
>and told you to fuck off and at end game when it comes to the matter of fighting the end boss
Yeah, this didn't happen. MC almost comically drops out of relevance in that part of the game seconds after they establish for the rest of the cast that he had the final boss inside of him and it doesn't come back until you make the decision at the end. Bringing up how characters wouldn't go to Tartarus because of a game mechanic played as them being busy doesn't even begin to involve the player so I don't even know why you'd bother bringing it up. The dick sucking in 3 was not on the level of P4, but it was still pretty bad and one of its characters even revolved around how everyone else loves MC for nearly the entire game. Let's also not forget how MC had a completely devoted robot waifu who was still 150% about figuring out how to ride him into the sunset after she grew a personality.

On that note, complaining about the Velvet Room scenes in P5 is an inherently stupid thing to do since everyone has their own clearly defined reasons that barely had anything to do with him. It wasn't a matter of Joker saying something and having them go "wow you're right ok let's go". At most the only awkwardness in that bit comes from Joker being a silent protagonist that has to speak in dialogue choices during cutscenes.

>>381267569
persona 6 will still happen, but someone else will direct it. I'm looking forward to both games in 2020ish.

>>381269860
Soejima is doing the art and iirc Meguro is also there.

Presumably, that leaves us with the people who brought us Ultimax. JOY.

>P3's plot is rewritten so it isn't paced so poorly
>P5 style dungeons and demons
If they did this for P3 it would be the best game in the series hands down

>>381277991
And both of them are still doing Persona things at the same time, this was clarified the second it was announced that they were working on the project. Like, in the same fucking article. Maybe even the sentence immediately following it. Much more recently it was said that more veteran staff were actually being moved to division 3 to work on the game but it was never quite specified who.

>>381278179
They're still on the project you mong. Presumably they're focusing on it, an unstable IP, instead of a well established franchise.

>>381278138
Every character but Junpei would still suck ass. P3 needs a full remake.

>>381278138
But does that really mean anything when you could rewrite P4 and end up with something that P3 couldn't top without being turned into a completely different game? Or just slightly clean up Shido's arc in 5 to ensure that neither would be able to come anywhere near it in a million years?

>>381278329
I feel like if Yukari's arc was better paced she'd be a lot less shitty. Same with Akihiko and Shinji. They'd just have to replace Ken.

>>381278489
P5's plot needs a lot more than a Shido rework to be good.
>Game about freedom and acting on your desires has you steal people's desires
>Demiurge is boring as hell and Satanael comes out of nowhere
>Akechi is even worse than Adachi

>>381266560
rewrite the answer and ignore the FeMC and I'd suck an unreasonably large amount of cocks to get this to happen

>>381278664
Yeah too bad you're in minority so there's no chance atlus going to hear any of your complain. Even if you manage to go through your complains is pretty subjective so that really not going to help your case.

>>381279314
I have an opinion on the game. I'm not going to change it just because people disagree with me.

I'm glad you can't actually come up with a defense, though. Makes me feel like I made the right choice.

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>>381266560
>they replace the old cutscenes with the ones from the movies

>>381279192
>ignor FeMC
For what purpose? The original plan was to have both as a choice and it only adds to the game, especially the added depth given to the male party member Slinks. Also, not wanting to fuck the Shinji

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>>381279495
>They use the fourth movie version of Burn My Dread for the death scene

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>>381278664
>main character's persona was originally mephistopheles
>chains were meant to be you making "deals" with them, as in for their souls
>you were literally supposed to become lucifer from making deals with souls and overturn the false reality and a false god
>instead lel make his name aresene to fit in with the shitty thief motif

>>381278664
>Game about freedom and acting on your desires has you steal people's desires
Why does this need to be changed? All the morality in the game is focused around this being what they're doing and builds up to what is basically the best revelation in the entire game at the end.

>Demiurge is boring as hell and Satanael comes out of nowhere
You're going to have to explain this one in more detail because the first half sounds like meaningless hyperbole and the second doesn't sound like it means anything at all.

>Akechi is even worse than Adachi
This isn't true even in the fucked up English version of the story. Adachi is a character with no driving force behind him or whatsoever and is a foil for the protagonist on one very basic level. The Golden Anime trying and failing to humanize him seems to have made people forget this, he was more of a nothing character than Ikutsuki.

>>381279793
Is this fucking true? Because that sounds way better.

>>381266646
No, Persona 3 niggers are convinced the series started and ended at 3.

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>FeMC fans this fucking delusional

She will never, ever, ever, ever, ever, EVER be canon.

>>381279854
It's a shitpost you could cut yourself on, is what it is.

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>>381279854
http://personacentral.com/persona-5-hifumi-togo-main-character-other-concepts/

japs are not smart

>>381273920
That's because orcs are for alpha males and elves are for tranny-loving snowflakey faggots.

>>381276114
P4 has some funk and brass, while P5 is jazz and disco mixed in.

>>381270015
no, doing a 180 personality flip in one scene does not count as character development unless youre talking about only junpei

>>381279793
Fuck you I love Arsene's design and concept. Satanael is a bit out there though.

>>381279450
I'm not defending anything. I'm just glad people like you (always people with your mindset who only attack things that is always sibjective) can't really change anything.

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>>381275753
P3 might be my favorite of the series, but I'll never defend party members letting Protagonist-Kun die when they had the chance to heal him.

>>381279831
>Stealing desires
Because the Phantom Thieves never really acknowledge that they're being hypocrites. The game does, but they don't.

>Demiurge being boring and Satanael popping up out of nowhere
Demiurge is a pretty standard Law Villain and he doesn't really do anything really threatening or particularly cool. The Igor trick was pretty well done but I feel like it doesn't justify how other wise milquetoast the fucker is.

When I say that Satanael comes the fuck out of nowhere, I'm talking about how he comes out of fucking nowhere. I'm far from a P4fag, but that game did the "ultimate Persona saves the day" thing much better. The progression from Arsene to Satanael doesn't even make sense.

>Akechi
But Akechi makes just about as much sense as Adachi. He could've just fucking killed him and been done with it. His motivations are almost nonsensical. He's an interesting contrast to the IT, which would've been cool if he wasn't in Persona 5 instead of 4.

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>>381280232
I guess the design and concept is okay, i'm talking about the name change though.

>>381279964
Maybe you're retarded anon?

>>381280264
So what, are you saying people can no longer have opinions? I really don't understand your point.

>>381280001
Agreed, but I still need more cute orc girls in vidya and neither Eastern or the Western devs are delivering.

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>he fell for the P3 isgood meme

>>381280315
The AI is rudimentary, but when it works, it shows you they had subtle personality quirks and what kind of character had. It's just too bad it doesn't work for a JRPG where when you MC dies the game ends and you've got loads of instant death spells that can fuck everything up. It's probably why I'm fine with P5 bringing Nuke and Psi into the mix now and actually giving Curse and Bless attacks actual damaging attacks.

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>>381279831
Adachi was a schmuck, but that was kind of the point. He was unstable and hypocritical in his views on society, and everyone calls him out on it.

I thought Akechi was more disappointing because he had the potential to be more as a moral foil, or at least as an intelligent rival. But he's a murderous lunatic that we're supposed to sympathize with and any intelligence he has is undermined by a stupid mistake he makes incredibly early on.

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>>381277717
>persona 6 will still happen, but someone else will direct it
>p6 directed by doi
Are you ready for the HOY?

>>381280762
>Akechi is a lunatic who goes crazy trying to show the world the truth
>Adachi is a lunatic who hates society and is hypocritical about his views
This has to be intentional

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>>381280901
It's beautiful.

>>381280454
I kinda hope they use that concept of human avatar shadow for chaos/law hero in SMTV, those designs look really cool

>>381279963

Fuck you, she was in the stage plays; anything's possible.

>>381274689
The 3D world was replaced with a shitty point and click version.

>>381280762
He's a literal dark copy of the P5MC where he allowed everyone else's perceptions of him distort his worldview and gave him the excuse to do whatever he pleased because his mother got fucked over by his biological father. I'd honestly rather have fought him in his own palace and his way to "make-up" for his mistakes/cruelty would be to kill his own Shadow to end his own life. Also someone had to be helping Shido in the background, so they decided to use the one person who could easily be it and also be the one to benefit from many of the psychotic breakdowns.

>>381281263
I want to believe the "Loki is a parasite who consumed his soul" theory.

>>381280510
My point is if you don't contribute to anything, then don't bother blogging.

>>381266560

>implying this would be a bad thing

if they did this and reworked it to somehow have legit dungeons instead of just shitty procedurally generated tartarus then i'd be so happy. that's probably asking too much though, they'd be better off spending that much effort on a new game

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>>381281365
But I am contributing by giving my opinion on the game.

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>>381280315

>one health remaining
>that's ok, mitsuru has my back
>MARIN
>FUCKING
>KARIN

>>381271965
>this has Berserk vibes to it
There is literally nothing at all like Berserk in that image. Don't be a fag like Jojos fans.

>>381280974

Wut? Akechi was a gloryhog. He just wanted people to acknowledge him, not show them the truth.

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>>381266560

Nah, something in me is screaming IF Remake.

>>381266560
I'd be okay with this, as long as they remove the fucking fatigue system.

>>381281943
>"My soul interest is uncovering the truth"
>Wants to tell the world about Shido at the peak of his power
>Is detective

>>381280232
Well if his final Persona was Satan it would make sense with the rebel theme, but Satan is already a "generic" endgame Persona so they had to try and be smart.

>>381280426
>the Phantom Thieves never really acknowledge that they're being hypocrites
At the end of the game this is exactly what happens. They find out that all they've been doing the entire time is sending people back to Mementos, and they only keep going on after being rejected by everyone around them because they they all have proof that good has come of it and choose to do what they think is right over what the rest of the world wants.

>he doesn't really do anything really threatening
Are you serious? He was literally in the middle of ending the world and vaporizing people in the streets. Tokyo turned into a wasteland and he had the four archangels helping him out. He had a better turnout for his apocalypse than Nyx did for hers.

>The progression from Arsene to Satanael doesn't even make sense.
The progression for every party member in the game is human thief to trickster god. They didn't match the two Personas together, they match each to the character that's been given them individually and for different reasons. Satanael is mirroring Yaldabaoth, not at all unlike Izanagi mirroring Izanami, and Joker is his most dangerous criminal. There's nothing out of nowhere about him.

>He could've just fucking killed him and been done with it.
Getting justice for what Shido had done was never really the point of his revenge, which is why this is deliberately not what happened. He wanted to be acknowledged and he became a puppet that did whatever its master told it to do so he could have that. Everything that happens from Joker's fake death on is him trying to skirt around how all of this is true and he throws everything away during the fight just so he can keep denying it.

>>381282183
>"My soul interest is uncovering the truth"
Bullshit, you fell for his lies. He cared less about stopping Shido than about stopping Shido HIMSELF. He wanted all the glory for it.

>>381282269
Then the guy who was complaining that his should somehow end up as Lucifer loses validity. Anyways they too a long time Persona like Loki and made it an adversary's Persona that's capable of making people go crazy.

>>381266560
I would like to see them do an action game set in the SMT universe. Think Nocturne, playing as someone like Demi Fiend actually punching the shit out of demons and gods. I want that.

Would Heracles make a good next persona mc starting persona?
The 12 labors would easily symbolizes 12 boss fights.

>>381282669
SEGA would just have it outsourced to Platinum or another company.

>>381280762
I actually liked that the crew of P5 didn't fall into the trap and was actually rusing him in turn. Quite a bit of a difference to SEES who were rused by Ikutsuki the entire time or the Investigation team that literally just stumbled upon the truth more often than not. That they actually paid attention to Akechi's slip up is deserving of kudos.

>>381282739
>more greek mythos
ew

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>>381281801
>the only time Marin Karin works is when Nyx manages to use it to charm Mitsuru into fully healing him after roughly an hour of chipping away at its health

>>381266560
>implying this is a bad thing

as long as they release it on PC I'm okay with that

>>381282779
atleast it makes more sense for 12 shadows than Orpheus

>>381282739
I know it's Persona but can we at least try to get something a little more obscure next time

>>381282887
The 12 Shadows had more to do with the Arcana, did you not fucking listen to Nyx Avatar? Cause that's all they fucking TALKED ABOUT.

>>381282669
What are Raidou Kuzonoha gamer?

>>381282739
Nah, they are gonna use a different mythos in every game I'd say. P3 had all the Greek/Roman stuff, P4 had Japanese folklore and gods because of it's rural setting, P5 had fictional and legendary tricksters (well aside from Necronomicon I guess).

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>>381266560
Just make another Persona game where you're not a highschool student and don't socialize/rank up confidants but do missions/rumours/something less boring than listening to an npc whine about their life while patting them on the back until they want to fuck you. It was fine in P3 as it was part of the message and build-up, but in P4 it just felt repetitive. In P5 they're desperately trying to keep it relevant by hiding game mechanics behind the confidants but that doesn't make it less of a pain in the ass.

Either remove social links or make another good SMT.
I'm fine with a Devil Summoner game as well.

>>381279541
To maintain the continuity for one. It'd be pretty retarded to add her in at this point at this point and time. Second her whole existence would be rendered pointless if they put the Answer in the remake since that was the entire reason she was in the PSP version in the first place, not because that's what they originally intended. While the interactions did change it didn't really matter to the overall plot so I couldn't give much of a shit. Only thing I cared about was doing the social links with the dudes and I shouldn't have to play a female character to do that. Lastly, I just don't like the FeMC

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>>381282751
I appreciated that the obvious twist wasn't the actual twist in the end.

Didn't do much for my opinion on Akechi as an antagonist though, considering that he was basically a non-threat the entire time.

>>381282303
>Hypocrite Thieves
Regardless, at least in the English translation, they touch on this for at most a second. Then they forget about it entirely

>Demiurge
The crazy shit that happens is more threatening than the dude himself. I won't deny the scene where we fade away is pretty well done, but the Demiurge is still bland and milquetoast.

Satanael is summoned out of fucking nowhere. Izanami powering up at least tells you that Izanagi, the dude who will ensure that 105 men will be born for every 100 she kills, will one up her as well. although to be completely honest both times it's lazy as shit, like literally every other eleventh hour superpower

>Akechi
You're right about his motivations. I still maintain that he's incredibly sloppily written.

Overall, I'm not saying that P5 is a badly written game. It's just not far and away the best written game in the series like the poster I initially responded to said.

>>381283103
When were the characters in Persona NOT highschool students?

>>381283339
P1 and P2 had some adults. Maya was a big girl.

>>381283339
Enternal Punishment

>>381279541
>and it only adds to the game
No, the FeMC actively hurts the narrative in P3. P4 would be the optimal game to get a FeMC since she'd have minor effect on the plot, but adding the FeMC to P3 straight up nullified a "The Answer" happening in the same way. It would be a completely different plot.

>>381283281
Eh, if you ask me him being a non-threat makes it all the more delicious because he's kind of an annoying prick most of the time anyway. He's like an anti Adachi since you can't even make fun memes out of him.

>>381283446
Only because Tatsuya is a massive fuck up.

>>381266560
God I do not fucking want remakes. I would rather have spinoffs than remakes of games I've played multiple times.

>>381283339
Doesn't matter, just because previous games did things a specific way doesn't mean you should shy away from change and have the same game thirty times in a fucking row.
Change shit up.
P5 could have been amazing if they stepped out of their goddamn comfort zone.

>>381283426
Most of the cast was still in high school. P1 starts in a damn highschool in fact.

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>>381283103
I just wish that social links felt a little more, involved? Like genuine branching dialogue or differing conclusions to certain character story routes?

I don't know, a lot of the time I feel like I'm just saying what characters want to hear while MC passively listens to them explain their life story.

>>381283579
And with what would you have it replaced?

>>381283675
>I just wish that social links felt a little more, involved? Like genuine branching dialogue or differing conclusions to certain character story routes?
I'd be fine with it if social links were very few, limited to the party only, and had actual impact on the story. Then you'd have fun doing them thinking about what effect you're having on the character.

>>381266560
Oh god please yes.

>>381266560
So would this mean we'd be rid of giraffe necks for every character in Persona 3 since Soejima finally started improving after 3?

>>381283484
Yu even has a "female" model they could have just tweaked a little for an actual female version.
And P5 would obviously never work with a female Joker because, well, I can't see them doing the entire interrogation scene with a female character and let's just say Shido would have done something different than just simply sue her sweet sweet ass.

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>>381283856
Soejima still has some pretty shitty necks

>>381282856
Go away, Phil.

>>381283693
Persona game where you're a college student and as the plot thickens, you have to make a choice to drop out to make time to save the world, which could be a huge struggle on the party. Maybe one of your reliable teammates ditches to study but finds themselves overcome with the burden of their power and rushes in to save you at the last moment, and the rest of the game can be centred around the plot, with little to no slice-of-life stuff left because everyone becomes serious about what they're doing. Less waiting. All the waiting in p5 seriously got on my nerves.

Maybe a game where you're a detective that solves crimes by using their Persona (which can't be seen by anyone else but persona users of course).

A character-driven mystery or action game where you're stuck in a shadow world for a whole year would be interesting, finding ways to survive and return to the real world.

Just, anything. I can't take anymore highschool.

>>381283948
That's them being weird with their 3d models. They actually improved how some characters looked with the 3d models compared to Soejima's art.

>>381283905
Genderswap ALL THE CHARACTERS!

>>381283675
P4 did the social links best because you actually weren't supposed to tell them what they want to hear duing the course of the social links.
That being said they way I see it Confidants in 5 were less about the MC being the one to give them their answer and more about witnessing the characters develope by themselves.

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>>381284041
Mika though

http://personacentral.com/persona-5-originally-going-backpacking-around-world/

Do you want globe trotting for P6?

>>381284007
>Maybe a game where you're a detective that solves crimes by using their Persona (which can't be seen by anyone else but persona users of course).
Isn't that what some indie game on Steam is shaping up to be?

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>He doesn't want Persona 1 remaster
>Instead of mazes you actually get the level design of dungeons from P5
>a bunch of forgotten demons like Gozu Tennoh come back with P5's engine
>Mark danced crazy in HD

>>381268291
This is already confirmed. Hashino is no longer a part of Persona studios.

>>381284232
That sounds shitty
>I better advance my North Korean SL
>Too late man, we're flying to Mexico!

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>>381284253
Are you talking about Madarame: The Video Game?

Because that's just a Hotline Miami spiritual successor where the lead dev got dumped. Then he just decided to rip off Persona.

>>381284232
That would be cool, especially if the crew of the game would turn out to be people from different countries that way.
Imagine getting a hon hon hon chick in the party and her Persona being Madame Guilotine.

>>381284163
I don't remember this character.

>>381284253
I got the idea from Devil Summoner. Having a team of Persona users summoning in battle, or just being alone solving crimes and fighting against other Persona users would be interesting.

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>>381284434
you will never stop me!

>>381281163
But 3D world contribute nothing, point and click make things fast without unnecessary details.
It's not like you'll get random item from secret place anyway.

>>381284434
I'm sure SEGA will be happy to show him how a legal team rapes a moron's ass into oblivion.

>>381284253
It has to be at least better story than what Persona Trinity Soul ended up being. Oh god was that terrible.

>>381275736
We'll be waiting 8-10 years for their next game if they do.

>>381284579
Yeah I'm actually missing that one. I mean sure we got Adachi and Akechi but they never quite managed to scratch that Strega itch.

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>>381284503
She was a character in the absolute worst SL

and that's coming from a fan of best girl

>>381284163
Why did she have a face model any way? She was the only minor character who did.

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>>381284723
Oh right, that obnoxious bitch. Ann's sweet but her SL made me lose interest in maxing her for my first run. Sex hair goddess for me. I fucked her EVERYWHERE.

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>>381283771
I wish that dialogue with the party had more flags in relation to who you've maxed things out with or started a relationship with.

Wouldn't have to be huge changes, but little social acknowledgements and extra banter would go a long way for me.

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>>381284765
I personally think she's a scrapped Anne design. They're both based off of the same character, after all.

>>381284882
So has anybody maxed Sojiro's SL before he finds out you and Futaba are Phantom Thieves?

>>381284723
I'd say Ryuji actually got the worst, because his character developement there totally goes out of the window whenever story happens.
Ann at the very least could be said that her SL happening is reflected a little bit in the story. Like her becoming a way better liar, which would be because of her intense rivalry with Mika.

Oh there's also the shota in the Arcade.

>>381284719
>Strega
Speaking of that, I wish they would have the balls to make a normal fight with the complexity of the attendants fight in Persona Q and how they cover each other, buff each other, etc. and are a threat.
>>381283771
Have the ones for your team mates influence what their upgraded persona is and what skills it gathers. Imagine if Ann suddenly turned into a hybrid or Makoto got more physical skills.

>>381284272

Who is this based bitch?

>>381284882
I think the only real acknowledgment is when you mention marriage and the girl you are dating out of the party reacting to it.
Otherwise I'm just fucking glad the optional romance scenes are now fully voiceacted so it comes off like a much more natural part of the game when you hang out with your girl.

>>381285156
Eriko, a really good party member from Persona 1.
That line was only in the PS1 Revelations translation though. A lot of unintentionally racist shit was in that translation.

>>381282269
Isn't Satanael just the Gnostic spelling of Satan?

>>381284942
Is that even possible?
I know he's gated to a certain rank until you get Futaba into the party.
Kind of the same way with Haru, whose SL can't be maxed before Sae's boss fight due to her asshole fiance still being around in the cutscenes afterwards.

>>381285503
That's what I was asking, does he get gated off like how the Sun becomes unavailable if you don't max it before Shido gets introduced.

>>381285465
It depends. Apparently, in some interpretations of the story, Satanael IS the Demiurge.

>>381282442
You mean like Take-Mikazuchi used to be a generic persona in 3 but became Kanji's hardcore Persona in 4?

>>381284587
>But 3D world contribute nothing, point and click make things fast without unnecessary details.
Go back to /vr/.

>>381285634
Yes.

Anat, Hectate, and Susanoo have all also been their own individual demons at some point in time.

>>381280454

woah proto-loki looks sweet.

>>381275525
>owns vita
>doesn't own P4G

NIGGA WHAT ARE YOU DOING

>>381285710
What you want to see the shitty character model?

>>381284942
I have.
He's the only one who doesn't find out you're a phantom thief at rank 10.

>>381266560
>releasing p3 for the 4th time
yeah no

>>381285554
Nope. He does get a side quest you have to do before you can reach rank 8 though.
>Sun becomes unavailable if you don't max it before Shido gets introduced
Wait that actually fucking happens?

That reminds me, wasn't there a scene where Sojiro was asking Ann if she got a boyfriend rather early in the game and she says 'nope, never had one'. I thinks it's all but impossible to rank 9 her in that timeframe either, so it's kinda clever.

>>381285728
Hmm, now you're making me want the next Persona to go full Shakespear so that we can get hardcore Oberon and Titania.

>>381285958
Well it's obviously because he's running for a position in the government and even he knows there's something off with Shido.

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>>381285817
Hey it worked for Skyrim? Am I right?

Am I right?

Am I right?

>>381283027
well at least Prometheus is kind of a rebel in his own right

>>381285784
Yes, what's wrong with that?

>>381266646
they did remake the first two though

>>381286094
Sure, it's just the first time I heard about that. I usually have him maxed out during summer so I'd hardly encounter that block. That's pretty cool.

>>381286246
Nothing's wrong with that. It's just that it wasn't essential for the gameplay or storyplot.
Which means P3P is already a fine remake and it doesn't need to get ANOTHER remake.

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>Yoshida will never become a party member wearing a stretched-out Super Sentai suit as his thief gear

>Yukari telling you she'll "try not to wake the neighbors" will never be voiced
Fuck. Name one line as hot as that in the entire franchise

>>381286190
Sure, but it's not the main theme of him. I mean the whole greek angle made sense in P3 because it's also quite a tragic story with lots of sacrifices on the parts of SEES with the ultimate sacrifice being made by Door-kun.

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>>381286452
>It's just that it wasn't essential for the gameplay or storyplot.
Nothing graphical is ESSENTIAL, but it's a game. It's meant to be entertaining and entice you visually. If you take away all the "unnecessary" parts, all you're left with it is the computerized version of a fidget spinner for autistic people who want to manage numbers.

If that's what you want, there are options available for you. You don't need to be angry at what others enjoy.

>>381283294
>The crazy shit that happens is more threatening than the dude himself
But he's the one doing all the crazy shit. There's nothing about how he's portrayed that downplays any part of how strong the guy is either, not even him repeating the world imbecile a dozen times. I really need to to explain exactly what about him was bland, but it seems to me that you're more hung up over the super inorganic design than anything else.

>Satanael is summoned out of fucking nowhere
And this is also silly, but since you're resigning the entire idea of having the end game awakening as lazy regardless of how it was done there really isn't much of a point in talking about it anymore.

>I still maintain that he's incredibly sloppily written
The way the character was written is not at the core of the issue. He isn't written in a way that a western crowd would readily sympathize with any part of his actual plight leading up to P5 since the west is as much of a slave to "show, don't tell" as it's been since the idea was conceived, but there isn't anything inherently wrong with that. The problems are, of course, in the localization, and what is universal to both versions of the game how quickly they throw everything at you. The vast majority of people are not going to be able to digest shit that quickly mainly because they aren't conditioned to but that's another matter entirely. In a sense, the only objective kind of improvement you could make to the character is to avoid the info dump. It's a matter of the pacing rather than the actual content, and that's been made very apparent by the sheer number of people that completely miss the most basic points of the character. And that was a thing in Japan for the first couple of months as well.

>Overall, I'm not saying that P5 is a badly written game.
Of course if we actually go back to that initial post this is pretty much exactly what you were saying, so at least you managed to move past that.

>persona 5 dancing
>mix of persona 5 and persona 3 ost and cast

thats all i want

>>381286409
Well who doesn't want to max out a SL that makes negotiations easier and faster and depending on where you're at, allow you to get Personas of higher levels than yourself early.

>>381286867
>Final boss is Black Mark
>You have to dance even crazier to win

>>381286831
>empty ugly streets with nothing of interest happening
>entertaining
Hmm

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The problem with Yaldabaoth is that he's too sudden. The whole last "palace" in mementos is fine, but the part where Tokyo is totally fucked up should be 1/3rd of the whole game. That was a significant change, and a great chance to have you temporarily live in Yaldabaoth's world while looking for a way to infiltrate and battle him. He should have been more threatening, expanded. A bigger deal.
But no, this is Persona, and anything dramatic like that happening is pushed aside for social life managing.

This just isn't the kind of game you go to for an engaging plot. If anything the plot is just an excuse to have social life sim mixed with dungeon crawling.

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>>381284723
Meh, people shit on her social link but you're never going to convince me it's bad. Any time I can spend with my waifu would be enjoyable no matter the content. I mean people say it made them dislike her but the things they didn't like I thought were very endearing and cute.

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>>381287180
I'm able to appreciate and observe all the work put into those empty streets with nothing of value in them because I play single player games slowly and enjoy myself instead of having a list of things to do as efficiently as possible. It's called having fun and you should try it sometime.
I bet you'd get angry if you found out I don't push the left stick all the way up so the main character walks to destinations sometimes.
Pic related it's you.

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>>381287185
>Having Christmas romance times while blood rain and spines dominate the landscape

>>381287325
id drink 1000 cups of haru poop than hang out with Ann and eat crepes and listen to her cry about shiho.

>>381287185
Honestly Izanami came out of left field too aside from some sprinkles here and there, and I guess Golden did it a bit better by introducing Marie, who is basically Izanami anyway.

Though the Strenght SL in 5 also drops some hints that some things aren't right in the Velvet Room.

>>381286840
>Demiurge
He's just fucking bland. He's not awful but I'd hesitate to call him anything more than a generic Law Villain.

His dialogue is dumb, the disappearances sort of just happen while he just fucking sits there and continues to be a cup.

>Satanael

He's summoned out of nowhere. The closest thing to foreshadowing his appearance is Arsene at the very beginning of the game. Although there's really no way Arsene would know any of that would happen.

Satanael pops out of nowhere, one shot kills the antagonist, and fucks off. It's a deus ex machina of the worst kind that plagues this game and almost every JRPG.

>Akechi
Akechi needed to be fleshed out, simple as that. He's fucking sitting in the interview, and then all of a sudden he goes "none of them know Daddy doesn't love me". It's fucking dumb. And then the game expects me to sympathize with him.

>Me on the quality of the writing
Looking back at it, I did say that. Touche.

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>>381287141
But then no one would clear the story mode of P5DAN

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>>381287423
>Desperately trying to act normal while bouncing your leg nervously waiting for an opportunity or way to combat Yaldabaoth, who claims to be God.
>Have him visit you in a human form.
>Get to know his 'personality' a bit before killing him.
It would be pretty sweet.

>>381287418
I bet you are one of those fags who refuse to use fast travel because of nuh immersion.
Even shitty dating sims have 'random' events going on to make some locations less boring, but p3 3d world is nothing but padding.

>>381287423
Honestly I'd be up for it

>>381287696
No, I fast travel all the time but sometimes I walk around and chat to NPCs. The developers put the time and effort to change their dialogue based on what's going on in the plot.

Did you know some NPCs will do and say different stuff if you fought them in Mementos? That stalker girl and the bully, for instance.

>>381281263
persona users can't have palaces

>>381287537
And Haru is crying about her shitty marriage deal and her father all the time, so that's hardly any better. But anything is better than having to do a group date with Makoto

>>381281263
>I'd honestly rather have fought him in his own palace
Personas are the flipside of shadows. People with Personas would not have a shadow that distorts and creates a palace, sadly.

>>381287831
All that stuff is what I'm excited for in NG+, since I know how and where to finds things, it'll be neat to see what changes and when.

>>381287634
>Satanael pops out of nowhere, one shot kills the antagonist, and fucks off. It's a deus ex machina of the worst kind that plagues this game and almost every JRPG.
That's literally what Izanagi-no-Okami and Mesiah do too.

>>381287604
Actually, if you're familiar with Igor, his entire interaction with you and even being a SL puts things into an odd position since he himself was never the target of a SL and he's never showed immediate interest in the human world outside of helping you save it and awakening your potential as the Wild Card.

>>381287831
P3 has mementos now?

>>381288056

Also referring to the velvet room as his and not actually doing any fusion himself

>>381288101
Oh, we're still talking about P3. I thought you meant in general.
Adding fast travel to P3 would be nice but that's all it needs. Walking around in a 3D environment adds immersion. Scrolling through text is less fun and not as engaging for a videogame, especially when you'll be dungeon crawling in 3D. It should keep consistent.

>>381288056
That too. Well and his change in voice actor, but that can't be helped since his original one died. Guess Igor followed the same fate and the future Velvet Room host will be whatever attendant flavor of the month will be.
I just hope they bring back the singer lady.

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>>381288031
Messiah is a literal fusion, he has nothing to do with how the game ends and "beating" the boss, all he is, is foreshadowing to what is going to happen Door-kun in the end.

What do you think Nameless and Belladonna are up to after P2?

>>381288101
isnt tartarsauce just reverse momentos?

>>381288230
And the fusions being executions. It's interesting because only someone familiar with Persona would notice that shit.

>>381288031
Messiah wasn't used to seal NYX though

>>381288258
Nah. Most people would walk to a place once or twice and then proceed to spam fast travel because p3's world is static as fuck.
P3 needs a better world/NPCs.

>>381288303
Yeah, sorry I remember now.
Izanami-no-Okami still stands though. And you could say Satanael has about the same relationship with Demiurge as Izanagi has to Izanami.

>>381288031
actually in p3 it was the seal that came out of nowhere instead
Messiah was only story relevant in the movies, where he also came completely out of nowhere.

>>381288394
The other way, and the irony is Tartarus is supposed to be deep within the Earth, but instead is a massive tower leading up to the Moon and the gifter of the final true (Thanatos) Death and along the way you run into false (Hypnos) Death who tries to lead humanity down that path.

>>381288394
no, tartarsauce is reverse decent dungeons

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>>381288412
I wonder when Igor's going to look for that bone phone of his. He still probably gets a bill for it or something.

>>381288682
>Turns out the reason Igor ain't there is because he's looking for that phone

>>381288603
Izanagi at least has the whole "fuck you I'll one up you Izanami" thing, so it makes sense that if Izanami powers up so will he.

Both are still really shitty, though.

>>381288682
Well, they're writing him out almost certainly in P6, so we'll just have to see if that's the excuse they use.

>>381272902
>and it doesn't need a "Definitive Edition" at all
it does, just so Portablefags stop memeing people into playing the inferior version

>it includes a continuation of the Answer called the Truth and you can save the MC and make him be with Mitsuru forever

I'd buy it.

>>381289084
>Not saving Yuka-tan from changing her name to Sadayo and becoming a maid

>>381289056
>it does, just so Portablefags stop memeing people into playing the inferior version
FES was good enough though, just throw out a cheap HD remake with manual control party members and people can stop pretending P3P is decent.

>>381289084
That cheating whore? She doesn't deserve MC.

>>381289197
Yukari can suck eggs.

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>>381288876
I like how it sounds like a bickering couple.
Guess that explains why Marie is so tsundere for Yu.

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>>381289271
Eggs are extremely nutritious anon.

>>381288965
They should just replace his VA with some other old sounding dude. Seriously, what's the deal?

>>381288965

I wonder what they'll do. Igor's going the way of Philemon at this rate. They'll probably just replace him with an attendant type of character and either make them do everything or have multiple attendants but not necessarily make them twins.

>>381289056
aside from anime cutscenes fes does nothing better.

the answer is not a must play. at least p3p has femc.

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>>381288031
Messiah didn't do shit. Even in the movies it completely fails to harm Nyx.

>>381287831
>That stalker girl
>She's hyped about just having the chance to be friends with the guy
Thought that was cute.

>>381289436
Japan has extreme love of using the same VAs for characters. It's why Zeta Gundam was planned to have Sayla in it, but the VA left for Africa beforehand so they created a new blonde character for Amuro to fuck.

>>381289436
In Japan it's a big fucking deal if a VA passes away. A VA is almost bonded to their character. Usually they can't even quit. If someone tried to pull a Laura Bailey in Japan they'd be burned at the stake.

>>381289586
>>381289638
Igor didn't even have that much voiced dialogue in the past, so it wouldn't really change much anyway.
I mean did they flip their shit when the first P5 trailer came out and Igor suddenly had a deep as fuck voice?

>japan was able to get old igor in the game by reysing old lines
>america would probably just try to replace him with ashley burch

based gooks

>>381267569
>we're trying to make a non generic fantasy

I really wonder what that means, mostly because generic fantasy is the most unique fantasy out there right now.

>>381289882
a generic old school fantasy with smt demons would be p cool tbqh

>>381266560
That would be a waste of time. Stop being a tard.

>>381289986
yeah and japans take on low fantasy has been really cool. Like dragons dogma.

>>381290201

Doesn't Crimson Shroud also kinda count too?

>>381289458
>p5 arena has only p3/p5 characters
>plot entirely around Elizabeth forcing the kids to get door-kun back, with all sorts of shit getting in their way
>game ends with elizabeth saving door-kun and Joker summoning Satanael to shoot Nyx in the face
>P6 main character is Door-Kun's first guest

I'd like to see them do it.

>>381279997
the horns are pretty cool

>>381290331
>implying the plot won't be about Elizabeth's distorted desires

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>>381290331
That's not how that works, Nyx is by her nature completely passive but extremely OP in the Persona universe, she is literally the Death of Consciousness since everyone would end up turning into Apathy Syndrome victims. What Elizabeth should do is make everyone's distorted desire of The End be the thing they're trying to steal to finally free Door-kun so Erebus can't reform and draw Nyx to Earth.

>>381290565
>Elizabeth acts like she's on a Noble Quest to save the young soul lost to the abyss of Death
>The reality is she's just desperate for a deep dicking and he also owes her like 30 bucks

>>381290293
maybe, but I'm talking like super low fantasy.

basically take final fantasy and go in the exact opposite direction and keep walking until you hit the edge of the earth.

>>381290331
Reviving Door-Kun would ruin the theme of P3 though. The most I would accept would be having him spend one day with his friends before returning to door form

Would it bother you if P6 had a new velvet room theme?

>>381290647
Or the could ask Yu to help her. I'm pretty sure Yu can fuck the emo out of people.

>>381290814
No as long as the opera singer who sings the original is doing it and is seen in the background in front of a microphone.

>>381290814
Only if they bring Belladonna and Nameless back and it just so happens they got into a metal band together.

>>381290331
Nyx would just come back and force Joker to become the seal instead.

>>381290839
Yu can stay the fuck out because he's pretty fucking bland even with being given a personality.

>>381266560
The next Persona game is a card-based RPG adventure game with more or less equivalents of social links that unlock skill card trees and in-game events, card farming spots, leveling, and stores providing the cards themselves. It will star Persona 5 MC and Persona 1 MC as a merging of the oldfags and newfags with sprinkles of other persona users from the past (Yuu and P2 characters will be DLC). The plot will revolve around gathering enough persona power to destroy Avatar Nyx for good, inevitably freeing and unlocking Minato for use.
I don't know much else, but I saw concept art for Adachi and Tatsuya.

>>381290763
I mean, it's not necessarily a revival as he'd be stuck in the velvet room for all eternity. What even is Igor, anyway? He can't be a living being. It's a nice thought at best, but Nyx is broken as hell like >>381290647 and >>381290914 are saying.

I have no clue what they'll do about the velvet room from now on.

>>381291071
Igor is a animated doll.

>>381291019
Elizabeth will put her self in danger to orchestrate this and set the plot into motion, leading to her death and surprise reincarnation in the 4th act of the game

>>381291019
>I don't know much else, but I saw concept art for Adachi and Tatsuya.
wait what i thought this was just some dumb wishful thinking, now you're saying it's something you saw?

>>381291019
If Nyx is destroyed then nobody will be able to die and humanity will just be a never ending cancer upon the world

>>381287634
So let's break that down, then. What about his dialogue was dumb? The only time he ever gets preachy is when he goes off about how not everyone is irredeemably shit, which is true, but they're only as such because they have no other choice, which is what Tokyo coming together disproves. He's a bored Lawfag that wants to be entertained. That's not a unique kind of Lawfag, but the notion that he reflects the people he governs, while also not unique, is not something that is touched on that often. A generic Lawfag is something like YHVH in SMT2. A whole lot of authority wank with pretty much 0 dimension to it.
I'm still going to say your issue is with the design until you show otherwise.

And finally regarding Goro, it's not as simple as that, this is the whole point I'm making and why I bothered to type out all that shit about regional perspectives. And to further prove the point, you're not 100% on the scene at the TV station. When he talks about how he was undesired as a child he's calling back to how he was passed around through Japan's foster home system. His hate for Shido was all that was relevant as a child and he did not become the puppet until Shido twisted him with praise, as his Shadow tells us. And I don't blame you for missing that, because it's the game's fault that scene in particular can get swept under the rug very very easily. The TV station bit comes right after Goro and Shido recount their history and three minibosses before the huge dump, and you only hear about how Shido did anything to him after Goro is "dead". It's a pacing issue through and through.

>>381291380
Now that you mention it, there are some similarities to apathy syndrome and mental shutdowns. Though one is much more fatal than the other I suppose.

>>381291380
I know, that's why
>>381291125
Happens.

I annexed that just so that xould be addressed.

>P3 and P4 re-released in HD
>89.99

Would you?

>>381291568
No.

>>381291413
Not him but even Atlus admitted Akechi was a poorly written character. They said they added him in last as an afterthought explaining all the issues with him.

They were clearly going for an L vs Light dynamic, but it just came off as a juvenile Adachi betrayal instead.

>>381291506
Well from how I saw it, Shadows in P3 were actually the manifestations of a person's unconscious desire for death/conscious thought hence why all those guys in the finale who were part of the cult and welcoming The Fall turned into Shadows to help with calling Nyx by combining into the next Erebus.

>>381291926
someone memed on you son
or maybe it's you that's doing the memeing

>>381287831
You can still talk to NPC even without the 3d world.
So your argument is invalid.

>>381291413
What makes a character like P5 Demiurge work is when they dig deep into the protagonist themselves. But in P5, he refuses to say anything beyond incredibly generic statements about humanity.

And I think you're right about Goro. It's just really poorly executed, really, his entire thing.

In the end it does just come back to pacing, you're right; the more time spent with the Demiurge and with Akechi the better the game's writing would've gotten.

>>381266560
>femc with 5's graphics

all of my money

>>381291997
Humanity's desire for death is due to Nyx's influence. The collective consciousness was created to fight back against Nyx so you can't kill her without killing humanity or brainwashing everyone with full LAW.

You could also just blow up the moon I guess, but that would fuck over the Earth.

>>381292070
Stay mad.

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How would you feel about it though if got a new ending after the answer where you can save door kun?

And it's canon.

>>381291568
No. Give me P5 dungeons for both and then I'll think about it.

>>381291568

Not at that price

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>>381292228
Defeats the whole point. Revivals are fucking dumb.

Fucking Ryuji, Sojiro, and Morgana pulling that shit all in one game is fucking ridiculous.

>>381292224
Nyx is literally benign, it's mentioned by Ryoji over and over again, Nyx doesn't give people a desire for death, why the fuck are you making shit up since Erebus is literally ALL OF HUMANTY'S UNCONSCIOUS WISH TO DIE GIVEN FORM and continually tries to open the door to let Nyx kill humanity. And the Collective Consciousness is called the Collective Unconscious you twit.

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>>381292147
I'm really hoping for the eventual rerelease we get at least more Akechi with the additional 1 dungeon we'd at least get alone with it.
>Akechi is back but he's still psycho from getting Loki'd
>Make good on the games theiving theme and steal Akechi's persona
>Palace forms because of it
>manually fix Akechi through palace shittery and get a little more info on how Akechi got his personas from Yaldaboth
something like that would be relatively acceptable.

>>381271701
They could use Persona 5: Christmas.
Japan treats Christmas like a romantic holiday and its main color is red so it could work.
The other option is Valentines day, but I don't think that's popular in Japan.

>>381292535
You will get P5 Akechi Goro and you will like it

>>381292535
I was thinking something more along the lines of
>Loki is working for Demiurge
>Ends up being an entity that isn't a Persona at all but a parasite
>Twists Shido's Palace to allow easier Phantom Thief killing

>>381292461
Read the data book.

>>381266560
Or you can just play P3P because Answer is utter trash

>>381281950
>implying you've even played IF to want a remake.

>>381267896
Switch

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>>381292784

So basically like the JOKER persona from Eternal Punishment? I'd be down with that

>MC is called Joker
>Can't dress him up as either IS or EP Joker, nor use the Joker persona

VOICESVOICESVOICES

>>381292795
Link me the data book before using it as an excuse when I'm using the game as a reference. Especially The Answer.

>>381293037
>Joker is the third character named Joker
>Joker The Third
>Lupin The Third

>>381286247
Yes on psp

>>381293110
http://ask-persona.tumblr.com/post/99861586798/persona-3-club-book-world-guide-qa-translation

Also the anime, which supercedes the game, never actually said that Nyx was benign. Ryoji was actually regretting his real nature.

>>381293342
>the anime, which supercedes the game
Oh boy, you're one of those faggots.

>>381293449
>No argument
>Shitposts

Regardless, the link is there. Read up on it.
Although you'll just end up crying "NOT CANON WAAAH" anyways.