What black magic does Nintendo use to have no noticeable glitches

Go watch a OoT speedrun and go sit in the corner realising just how wrong you are.

>>381262980
Proper testing. Actually finishing a game before releasing it, making sure it's solid and polished. You know, like all game devs should.

>>381262980
They're very simple basic games

>>381262980
Their QA teams have the ol' work-to-literal-death jap attitude.

>>381263625
>no they're not sonyfag, go be butthurt somewhere else

>>381263349
>the "glitch" use impossible keyboard key combinations literally only possible on emulators

>>381262980
>What black magic does Nintendo use to have no noticeable glitches in their games?

I remember them saying that they personally play all the games they make and I believe that.

glitch free? name 1 (one). EVEN BotW has plenty.

>>381263949
>I don't know how software works

SM64 and OoT glitching are doable natively, and the most common exploits don't even require very complicated inputs (i.e. staircase skip in SM64)

>>381262980
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiuLeTE2MeQ
their coders were innovative

>>381264096
Still, the glitches aren't something you will run into if you're not trying to find them, and the don't hinder gameplay in any way.

when is the right age to ask a girl to touch her pusy

>>381263349
Name 3 (three) glitches in OoT that the average person could have encountered while playing the game.

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>>381262980
>no noticeable glitches in their games
Most video games are like this. Unless you look for them, most games have no noticeable glitches.
>>381264081
Literally the only game I can think of that has no glitches is Gameboy Tetris

>>381264261
>not just grabbing it

>>381264273
Not that guy, but I'd agree most Nintendo games are solid. That said

Bottle bugs are probably the biggest and most game breaking. Aside from that, only minor stuff.

Technically there's the crouch stab damage bug, but most people won't notice.
Them there is save and quit in the Ganon fight to go swordless, but that's borderline intentional territory.

>>381263910
Who are you quoting?

>>381264414
Technically 1.0 Tetris has a few glitches but they were fixed in a revision before the rest of the world got it.

>>381262980
They don't ship half-finished games.

Game devs back in the day didn't have access to things like patch-fixes and dlc, so they had to make sure their game is done right the first time. Nintendo still follows this mindset.

>>381264414
>Most video games have no noticeable glitches.
What did he mean by this?

>>381265346
Unless you go looking for them, most games will seem glitchless when playing through the game normally.

>>381262980
delays

>>381264414
EA is perhaps the worst offender when it comes to glitches. I have a brother that used to buy EA sports games, particularly FIFA and those games were bugged to hell. Though I vaguely remember NFS Underground 1 and 2 on the Gamecube weren't too glitchy.

>>381265482
Yeah, after the game received multiple patches and you installed the unofficial community patch. There is absolutely no way you believe that most games ship without noticeable bugs.

>>381264625
Not Oot but TP has the famous fishing pole glitch.

>>381267382
what glitch is that?

>>381265482
> most games will seem glitchless when playing through the game normally.
this is completely fucking bullshit, especially when it come to AAA titles

>>381262980
They don't use their consumers as their game testers so that they can rush a game out as fast as possible.

>>381265482
Have you never played a Bethesda game?

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>>381268268

>>381263349
>noticeable

>>381267382
If you're talking about Ganondorf, that was an intentional reference.

I was really impressed how glitchless BotW was during my playthrough.

>>381268469
oh was it?

Fuckload of surface-level testing, combined with games that (usually) aren't too big.

>>381268892
l-lewd

>>381268892
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Are game patches a good thing or bad thing?

Remember, even Nintendo have shipped game-breaking bugs before.

>>381268892
why does /v/ always have to give me a boner
i dont want a boner dammit

>>381262980

>>381263349
OOT glitching requires you to exploit very specific geometry and shit. Compare that to Bethesda games where you can walk forward and be propelled through the air because you stepped on a rock wrong.

>>381264273
Funny you mention that, but in majora mask, i had several instances where link got stuck in terrain somehow, and i couldn't move. I can unstick myself by transforming and using jump attacks, but it is quite annoying and scary

>>381271365
It depends on the company. Shitty companies will use patches as an excuse to not fully test the game, while others will still fully test their game before release and use it to patch bugs that got through their playtesting.

>>381271834
can you prove that

>>381264257
I ran into the bottle memory-manipulation glitch on my first run of OOT when I was a kid.
I was 70% through and had to restart because of it.

>>381272101
I dunno how would i prove it anon. I got stuck in that small hallway leading to to the snow temple before the last jump and inside the spider goldskultulla cave. Granted this was the majora mask remake, but ninty game nonetheless

>>381268892
Midna is a naughty princess!

Nintendo quality seal.
That's it, they don't just throw their games out after 1 houf of playtesting.

>>381272245
I remember doing some glitches for majora mask too, like the super wood broken stick

>>381266301
>community patch
>nintendo game
Sure, sure.
>>381268129
>>381268406
Hey, psst, look at what the original post says (hint : he's talking about Nintendo games)

>>381263349
wow i didnt know you were so ahead of the speedrunning community 20 years ago you fucktard.

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>>381262980
lmao

>>381262980

The black magic known as talent.

>>381264847
don't feed the mongoloid

>>381272921
>How come Nintendo games have no noticeable glitches?
>That's nothing special, because most Nintendo games are like this.
>he's talking about Nintendo games
No, he's not. You fucking mongoloid.

>>381262980
>Uses a game where they fucked up so hard they created parallel universes as an example

>>381272390
Don't worry anon, I believe you. No company is perfect.

Don't think you can say this about all their games but their main titles yea.

I know with BoTW Aounma made everyone who worked on the game play it every day throughout development and they all spent a solid week playing it after it was done. I remember watching this thing where Ken Levine was saying that was one of the things that impressed him most about the game was that even with all the physics interactions he could find no bugs and said how hard it was to play test BioShock with just a few physics interactions.

>>381271643
>turn off Vsync
>jump into a swinging sign
>lose 80% HP

10 hour days + 4 hours unpaid overtime because japan, probably.

>>381273510
Dam I think I just got #troll'd

A lot of testing and polish, sometimes at the cost of more content.

>>381273904
How fucking dense are you? I realize now that my reply wasn't really clear as I didn't proofread it and got super triggered at your lack of reading comprehension, but maybe you should follow the reply chain for once. See >>381264414.

>>381274192
Sudoku

>>381273279
Is there really any glitches in this that you'd find in a normal playthrough? Missingno and the like only happen if you screw around with the Tutorial man and Cinnabar Island's beach. Aside from that the game is solid

>>381274308
>I was merely pretending to be retarded!

>>381274535
Im not even pretending lad, I have an iq of under 70

also stop being upset jeez

>>381274392
Not him but there are a shocking amount of moves and mechanics that just work plain wrong in those games. You won't notice them a lot because move descriptions were absent in generation 1.

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>AAA industry churns games out to fit specific release dates
>often riddled with bugs but technology allows to be fixed later (sometimes)
>OP has accepted bugs and glitches as "the norm"

What a sad world we live in

>>381264250
is this guy a developer? he goes so in depth into this game.

>>381272245
>being this much of liar to try to prove your point

TP and SS both have game-breaking bugs that don't require obscure setups to encounter.

>>381263349
I'm sorry but you're retarded.

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>>381274679
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>381268735
Yep. Ganon usually was able to be beat with nontraditional items. The Bug catching net in Link to the Past, Bottles in Ocarina of Time for instance.
Ganondorf being cheesed by the fishing rod was purposeful to keep up the joke.

>>381268443
Pokemon is not developed by Nintendo.

>>381275432
>if you use substitute when you have 25% hp left, you kill yourself
>this makes perfect sense
whoever made this really didn't get what the bug is. you have to use substitute at EXACTLY 25% hp to die. if you use it at 24% hp, it'll fail. that's why it's a retarded bug.

>>381262980
Smb 1 has tons of glitches. You can jump into bricks and not fall into the pit for 1. There are others.

>>381262980
This same texture glitch exists in Gannon's Tower in Ocarina of TIme. That's interesting.
Also, N64 glitches are really cool, they don't effect casual gameplay at all, and allow for really interesting speedruns. They're almost like an 'endgame' challenge if you beat one, but still want to play more because a lot of them are tricky to pull off.

>>381262980
https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=57&v=aSL3og5--uE

Go to 2:40 seconds

are people forgetting about Super Smash Bros?
>Melee's Super Wavedash
>Brawl's DACUS
>Smash 4's Bidou

>>381262980
Good programming, testing and polishing like 99% Japanese mainstream games.

The only Japanese AAA I can think of that was a glitchy mess is Sonic 06.

>>381275171

no, just autistic about Mario 64

>>381264625
The bottle glitch isn't a thing that most people would run into without looking it up first.

>>381276492
wasn't this glitch only found a few years ago?

Doing pretty well for a thirty year old game.

all this thread is doing is reminding me that I still have a copy of super paper mario that with 100% certainty hardlocks in the second chapter when a specific line of dialogue is shown on screen

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>>381275432
>Focus Energy does the exact opposite of what it's supposed to do
>gen 1 Focus Energy is quite literally the worst Pokemon move in existence
good gravy

also the anon who wrote over this does not seem to understand that not using a broken move is no excuse for the move to be broken

>>381275432
who ever made this needs to neck himself

fucking genwunner fags

>>381274392
You might come across the Toxic + Leech Seed one or Rage and a few similar ones.
But that doesn't really matter because Pokemon isn't a Nintendo made game to begin with.

>>381272245
you fucking liar, bro I hate oot but this didnt happen to you.

>>381264625
The bottle glitch is really popular.

The sheild bomb glitch was ultra popular at the time too.

Epona and the hookshot glitch was there too, almost every forum had news on those back when I had a dreamcast.

>>381279175
There's a difference between being popular and being something that you would stumble upon during normal play anon.

>>381262980
the black 'magic' of sticking only to extremely well-trodden paths, and polishing everything they do to a fault. and even then, they still do have plenty of obvious bugs, as any game does.

>>381274392
if you play the game normally without doing anything, and swim on the cinnabar island you will encounter safari pokemon.

>>381266242
>>381266301
>>381268129
EA, Bethesda, Bioware, and Ubisoft are the obvious picks, but I can't think of anyone else who has a ton of glitches in their games.
There's a lot more games than just AAA games, ya know. It's not exclusive to Nintendo.

There was a time when not being bug-riddled was a standard of good games and something to actually put effort into.

Obviously, such a time has long since passed.

>>381262980

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>>381275432
>using green text key function in an image outside of chan board implying green text

SMB3 has over a dozen lol

>>381262980

Old school Japanese work ethic meets pushed back schedules. lol

Mario Sunshine has a palm tree in the delphino air strip level (the prologue level) with q busted broken entirely shifted climbing hitbox. The stairs or whatever in the same area also have awful collision.

Nintendo pushes out rushed products when they have to, it's mostly launch titles though: the GameCube lineup wasn't quite there yet (Melee's plethora of glitches, WindWaker's scrapped dungeons, the GC releasing without a built-in broadband adapter) and neither was the 3DS (Mario kart 7) nor the DS (reused minigames in NSMB, SM64DS, Pokémon Diamond and Pearl being beta builds compared to Platinum) nor the Wii (Twilight Princess' cannon softlock getting disks recalled, its save file exploits) etc.

>>381262980
>>381262980

When you design children's toys with minimal quality or functionality, it's a lot more difficult to fuck up and make them malfunction.

Seeya.

>>381275432
This has to be bait.

>>381280402
>Melee's plethora of glitches
Let me guess, wave dashing and l-canceling?

>>381262980
Cartridge era of games are different from the modern era.
Cartridge era of games meant that if your game had something game-breaking, they had to recall every cartridge. Even cartridges that may have been updated.

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>>381275432
>shitty game design is acceptable because it's a single player game

>>381262980
nintendo lot checks

>>381280630
Sure, and stuff like Bowser's big hand when he throws in midair, Mr. Game and Watch being straight up unfinished, massive imbalance across all playable characters, the debug menu, Iwata's personal recount of how he managed to fix everything in like a week, Luigi's tornado being "charged" when the match starts depending on both the stage and the other picked characters, basically Melee was rushed. It's great for it though, sure, but rushed nonetheless.

>>381268406
Have you? I have no doubt your only exposure to them and these glitches are from webm threads or shit you see on youtube which are almost always purposefully tampered with and exploited.

>>381279690
>It's not exclusive to Nintendo.
I never argued this. I'm not even arguing that it applies to Nintendo. It's just that "most games shipping without noticeable bugs" is an absolutely ridiculous claim.

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>>381281291

>>381281509
>it's an "I'm going to post a reaction image of people or anime girls laughing in lieu of an argument" episode

>>381281291
>play Skyrim on launch
>get hit by Giant
Uhh anon ... what is that?

>>381281680
Didn't happen to me.

>>381275432
no matter what goes wrong in my life, i can take solace in the fact that i will never be butthurt enough to spend hours attempting to counter an image that hurt my feelings

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You know how in the credits of almost every nintendo game have a credit to "Super Mario Club" in it, even if it's not a Mario game? The Super Mario Club is actually an elite group of playtesters. Their ability to spot glitches or areas that would cause glitches to begin with are almost second to none. Couple this with the Japanese workaholic tendencies, and you have a magic combo that erases all traces of scum in any game.

Compare to the west, where it's an open secret that if a playtester finds "too many glitches" that set back release date, they're fired, then I think it's no surprise why Japan blows the West out of the water with their game every single time. Your average shit game from Japan would rate a 6.5/10 almost every time, whereas Western games have to struggle and fight to get it up that high.

>>381281750
Why are you lying, anon?

>>381280529
Bye

>>381274392
Use Focus Energy. Congratulations, you have encountered a glitch.

This is the only one I knew of back in the day (besides Missingno fuckery), that the move did actually literally nothing.

>>381280708
More like, it was a cceptable because it just was. Everyone else was making even glitchier games. Even later games were glitchier.

>FF6 has an hardcoded 100% hitrate on vanished targets, that ignores resistances
Vanish -> Death, beat the game

>Entire status effects like Blind doing literally nothing