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How many playable characters are you expecting to see in total?

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How many playable characters are you expecting to see in total? I see at about 18-20 at the most.
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JEICE
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>>381247539
10 and 5 DLC
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17 and about 4 dlc
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>>381247786
YEAH MAN I WANT JEICE!

and Raditz srsly
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10 + 2 to 5 unlockables is the standard for the first game in fighting series, don't disappoint yourself by expecting any more than that, this isn't Tenkaichi.
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>>381247976
I'd agree with you if not for the 3 vs 3 system. Hlaf the roster would be in every fight in that case
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>>381247539
How can anyone think it'll be that low?
It has a 3v3 system as its base so it'll have at least 30 characters.
Otherwise Aksys is making a mistake releasing it early.
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>>381247976
I thought I was being lenient. Most of the guys from the dbz community on youtube are saying about 30 characters.
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>>381248309
So does skullgirls.
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>>381248360
They're setting themselves up for disappointment, at most it could be between 15 and 20.
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>>381248309
>30 characters
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>>381248524
Skullgirls can be 1v1, 2v2, 2v1, etc but DBFighterZ is only going to be 3v3.
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Golden Freiza is in there so stuff from the two recent movies are fair game.
Can't wait to play as my boy Beerus.
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The Z Fighters for sure
So Krillin, Yamcha, Tien, and Piccolo
Also Trunks
Also there's the likelihood you get characters at different ages
The Androids definitely.
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>>381248105
We'll enjoy seeing half the cast in most fights because they do small rosters they even said they are focusing on more unique characters do to roster size
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>>381248309
>at least 30 characters
You're building yourself up pretty high, anon.
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>>381248534
18 seems like a good number.
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If you faggots buy this game and it has 10 characters, you all need rope.
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>>381247539
I predict 25. They said 20% done, so that number seems sensible.

This is a prediction roster btw, not a wishlist. On a personal level, Kid Goku, Piccolo, and Broly is all it takes to make me a happy man. But I'm more concerned with the gameplay anyway.
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>>381249119
>Yamcha
>Satan
>Bulma
>Whis

lol no
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>>381247539
15
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>>381249676
>only 45 different teams possible
Nobody would buy it.
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>>381249776
Ok, dont get your hopes up for more than that though
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>>381249119
>Bulma

>No Videl or young ChiChi

>>381249530
Satan I can see showing up. But as the joke he is.
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Anyone that thinks its going to be more than 22 or so is a fucking moron.
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>>381249119
bulma would be dope, but zamasu/blacks fusion over just black would be awful considering that was the worst part of the best super arc so far

also i'd prefer super buu to kid
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>>381249119
>Loli Bulma
>Tao Pai Pai
>OG Goku
Those choices make the rest of the Super trash you put in not that big of a deal.
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>>381250252
OG Dragonball is my childhood man. I hope it gets more love. It's my fave out of all the series.
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>>381249776
Fighting games don't base their worth on variety, the FG community would be happy enough with 10 characters as long as the gameplay was good. DBZ fans would be the only ones whining that their favorites didn't make it in
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>>381249973
What do you think it's like living a life where you get paid just to be cute?
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Why is SSJ2 Gohan so sexy?
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>>381247539
I think 24 characters is a good number. If they were going to only have 12 or fewer characters they wouldn't have made it 3v3, it'd get old fast

>Goku
>Vegeta
>Teen Gohan
>Adult Gohan
>Piccolo
>Krillin
>Yamcha
>Tenshinhan
>Future Trunks
>Android 17
>Android 18
>Nappa
>Captain Ginyu
>Freeza
>Cell
>Majin Buu
>Kid Buu
>Gotenks
>Vegetto
>Beerus
>Black/Zamasu (ideally both but I'd take one or the other)
>Hit
>Broly
>Bardock

If you think OG Dragonball or GT stuff will get in you're delusional
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>>381251329
>If you think OG Dragonball or GT stuff will get in you're delusional
They already confirmed OG stuff and Super was gonna get in. They said they'd look at all Generations, so Kid Goku is pretty much a shoe in at this point.
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>>381251519
>They already confirmed OG stuff and Super was gonna get in
>They said they'd look at all Generations
Do you read what you type you mouth-breathing nigger?
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>>381247539
I'm holding out hope for Tien, Krillin, and 18, but I know the roster will be smaller and that Broly is going to be eating up a spot because he's popular with idiots all around the world.
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Super Buu with Gotenks absorbed, and Gohan absorbed as installs.
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>>381251643
Do you?
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These 15 are the most likely to get in.
>Goku
>Vegeta
>Teen Gohan
>Adult Gohan
>Piccolo
>Android 18
>Krillin
>Gotenks
>Future Trunks
>Frieza
>Cell
>Fat Buu
>Kid Buu
>Broly
>Beerus
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Around 20 tops, maybe one or two more if they decide to re-use assets and add in alternate versions of existing fighters like 'SSG Goku' or something.

Even though they're primarily basing it on DBZ, I fully expect they'll put in some Super characters to promote the series. Goku Black/Zamasu definitely, and then probably Hit. I could even see them putting in Future Mai or Cabba. Anything from GT or characters specifically related to OG Dragon Ball (like Tao, Kid Goku or King Piccolo) I only see getting in as DLC, unfortunately. I know they mentioned drawing from all of Dragon Ball, but I feel like that's partly PR talk and they're going to be saving them for later. Honestly, the character's that've been announced so far (plus Piccolo, Krillin and Broly) would probably be all that really mattered to casual fans. Here's hoping for Bardock and Tao, though.
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>>381252228
>Adult Gohan
I doubt it.
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>>381249973
qt
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Expecting 20 at most. A few from each arc + Beerus.
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>>381249119
replaced merged zanmasu with Black Yamcha/chiaotzu with a fucking rock for all I care and you got my list.
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>>381250958
Incredibly annoying.
You can't do jack shit in public because if they catch you being somehow uncute even once then your career is over.
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>>381252832
>Not wanting a rekka character and mob psycho in...
For shame my man.
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Metal Goku and Peach Gold Vegeta.
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I bet my left nut it'll be between 21-24 because it is a 3v3 fighter. But ArcSys aren't known for big rosters, so you can be certain the roster won't be bigger than 30 but I really doubt it'll be less than 20 characters because again, this is a 3v3 fighter. So for sure a lot of the characters will share a base set of mechanics thus making the character creation less cumbersome due to the fact that they don't have to be very unique.
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>They add a Saibaman
>It has self destruct as its Instant Kill/Astral
>It leaves your opponent in the Yamcha pose
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>>381249119
>prediction roster
>Chiaotzu
I mean there are some other choices I think are a little suspect, but do you honestly think Chiaotzu is getting in at all?
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>>381248309
If the roaster is short, it's Namco not shelling out enough dough to make it happen.
The budget of a game like this insane balancing act:
>Number of models and animations.
>Character nuance.
>Story/singleplayer.

If you get a lot of characters and a lot of story mode/singleplayer content, you can expect the characters to be samey, and you wont be getting retardedly detailed gimmicks and insanely nuanced shit like *Venom's Stinger Aim now has topspin and backspin if you ricochet with another ball and press 6 or 4*.

If you put in a lot of detail, then you might be short on characters or have a barebones storymode.

HOPEFULLY however, Namco put some eggs in the basket so there is plenty to go around.
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>no bean boy
Team manlet won't be the same without him
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>>381249908
Not him, but Bulma is virtually in. She's the perfect functional replacement for Kokonoe.
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>>381254551
No she'd be Elphelt + Faust
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>>381255145
Same difference really.
Whether she's an item-throwing character or a limited-usage mechanic character, she'll be lobbing capsules and using lazer beams and other crazy shit. She's going to be a mad gimmick.
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>>381247539
25-30. This isn't a 1v1 so I honestly have no idea how people can sit here and say the cast is going to be as small as 15 characters or some shit. That's like half Injustice 2's cast and that's a 1v1
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>>381249119
>still posting the shittiest rooster
It's aids.

Get rid of Satan, Whis, Chiaotzu, Yamcha, and Blue Vegito. Then you'r almost good.
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>>381256515
Dumbass, look at ASW budget.
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Goku
Vegeta
Gohan
Future Trunks
Gotenks
Piccolo
18
Krillin
Tien + Chiaotzu
Yamcha
Roshi
Videl
Satan
Jaco
Tao Pai-Pai
Freeza
Cell
Buu
Ginyu + Force
Nappa
Dabura + Babidi
Janemba
Broly
Beerus
Bardock

Final Boss: Merged Zamasu
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>>381256515
Unlike NRS, ASW actually puts effort into their character models and animations. That's why their rosters tend to be smaller.

Regardless, if you look at the character select screen, there's space for 24 characters max, more likely to fall in the 20 range with slots left unused for DLC. And, yes, early character select screens are pretty reliable metrics to use when guessing roster size.
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>>381252984
>Yamcha has rekka meme
The only reason why Yamcha is a good choice as a rekka is because he's the only character that invented a move for it, he's not the only character to have done a rekka move though.

Even then it doesn't warrant him a slot, that's a fucking waste just because of 1 move. And Spirit Ball doesn't save him either. I'd rather have smoeone like Janemba who's actually fucking unique, not some half-ass, loser ass, non-important in both the real world and in the canon, fucker with his only saving grace being his shadow the dante cry edge scar and raspy voice.

Yamcha fags need to fucking neck themselves
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>>381252228
>>Teen Gohan
>>Adult Gohan
More likely to get Goku and Bardock or Goku and Black than two Gohans.
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Pilaf, PLEASE
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>>381247539
14+1 pre order
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>>381256515
Xrd had what, 13 characters when it came out? Even considering that they've probably become more efficient at making characters in this art-style, 30 would be an insane number of characters to launch with. Better to temper expectations to 15-20 and be pleasantly surprised if they have more.
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>>381257345
why are you so triggered by the strongest human, anon?
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>>381251329
Realistically speaking, get rid of Yamcha, 17 and Adult Gohan, and add in Kid Goku, Janemba, and 16(rocket punch potential).

>OG Dragonball or GT
>"we want fans across all dragon ball generations"
It's possible we will get one of those characters.
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Let me tell all you newfags who don't play fighting games something.

ArcSys sucks an this game will be a disappointment. They are low IQ blithering retards and DLC this to death, oh want an update? 30$ please.
This is the worse thing to happen to a DB game.

Air dash & Smash anime is not good.
This game would have been better off under anyone else but the cock suckers at ArcSys.
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>>381257046
Then the game will flop and I will not buy it because 20 characters is not worth a 60 dollar game. That's indie levels.
>>381257715
Xrd is a 1v1

30 characters for a 3v3 sounds fine. You people are morons thinking they are developing a game where every match will have a quarter of the cast in it. Might as well cancel the project because that's worse than MVCI's roster.

It will never be in the teens.
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>>381251519
So how are they going to look at all generations with a cast of 15? You'd have to include every main fighter and then like each arc gets one character, maybe?
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>>381257985
>It will never be in the teens.
18 is perfectly realistic considering it's ArcSys
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>>381258226
so if 17 and 18 are twins, does that mean 18 is 17 years old as stated in the DBS episode?
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are all fighting game fans like this? just circle jerk over rosters constantly?
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>>381257985
Well, guess you won't be playing then. Doesn't matter since you're probably a casual scrub that would uninstall once you went online and got fucking bodied.
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>>381257951
>ArcSys sucks
Imagine having such awful taste and opinions. They're literally the best fighting game devs in the industry. The only one who even compares to them is Golden Era Capcom.
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why do people think their nobody characters will get in? why do people think it will have a massive roster?
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>>381256898
With Namco backing them up there can be a few extra characters than the norm.
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>>381258405
it's a dbz game you fucking retard, roster is important
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>>381256898
With Bamco being involved it's not hard to assume their budget is higher than normal.
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>>381248904
18 also seems like a good character.
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>>381258405
Sometimes, but it's mostly the DBZ fanbase
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I's say a good 25-30 characters. As to my guesses, including characters revealed at E3

Goku
Gohan
Vegeta
Cell
Fat Buu
Frieza
Krillin
Roshi
Tien
Piccolo
18
17
Videl
20
Bulma (Mech)
Chi-Chi (Dragonball era)
Jaco
Beerus
Whis
Black
Zamasu
Future Trunks
Mai
Hercule
Broly
Vegeto
Cooler
Mystic Gohan
Kid Buu
Bardock
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>>381259084
It's mostly a thing for licensed games, everyone wants or expects to see their favorite character in.
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>>381247539
Well it's a DBZ game, so it'll either be a ridiculously small roster with only major heroes and villains, or ridiculously huge with a ton of jobbers and different versions of the same characters. But since they're not going for the generic customizable characters route, I'm betting on the low side.
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Consider the following:
>For some odd reason, they didn't properly anticipate the hype that this game would generate and thus have likely been working on a rather limited budget
>This is Bamco we are talking about, so there will be DLC characters
>If the game sells, it'll get a sequel (again: Bamco)

The only realistic expectation is 10-20 characters. People look at Tekken's etc. roster and forget that they have ~10 previous games to build upon and use as a foundation.
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>>381248105
>Hlaf the roster would be in every fight in that case
Just like DBZ.
Gohan: Save me Mr. Piccolo!
Piccolo: He's too strong!
Vegeta: Now you face the Saiyan Prince!
Goku: The show has 10 minutes left. I better end this now.
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So many people are going to jump into this game expecting another casual DBZ fighter, get bodied by the CPU and online, and never touch it again. It's a shame.
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If it's anything like GG then it'll be good
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>>381247539
15 + DLC, it's arksys
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>>381258519
Because they don't know arcsy, and are used to the regular dbz games with a roster of 100 Goku clones.
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>>381247539
>15
Obviously.
>20
Maybe
>25
We are fucking lucky
>more than 25
kek
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Explain why Bulma is not a best
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>>381247539
Doesn't matter how many characters if it's not ported to the switch.

https://twitter.com/saiyanisland/status/876579867013386241
Show your support and retweet.
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How would you guys react if these dykes make it in before Black, Hit or any of the "cool" super characters.
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>>381262778
Cheats on vegetable
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The name of the game has Z so don't expect anything Super beyond the movies. No movie stuff like Broly either

>Goku
>Vegeta
>Gohan
>Cell
>Frieza
>Buu
+
>Piccolo
>Beerus
>18
>Trunks
>Kid Buu or Super Buu
>Krillin
>Whis
>Rochi/Satan/Videl

Don't really push it.
ArcSys aren't the guys who put 20 characters into the first game.
They will milk this like they milk BB and Guilty Gear.
You will buy a new game every 1.5 - 2 years and that will get 4+6 more characters.
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Seeing all of the references to the source material made me curious if they're restricted to only using existing moves. Did anyone notice any original moves?
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>>381263151
They will never be in, they still have no fighting style and they will always go for Broly instead of femBroly.
Maybe in the sequel if they are interesting, but clearly not in this one.
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>>381263479
>No movie stuff like Broly either
lol. Broly will be the preorder DLC.
Mark my words.
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>>381264015
Broly is a meme.
This is a game which primary gets made for Japs and by Japs.

They don't pander to mexicans.
Broly is something you won't get until the 3rd or 4th game.
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>>381257951
Yeah this honestly desu senpai, we need this to be made by nintendo and using smash fighting system since its the best fighting game of all time
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>>381263479
>The name of the game has Z so don't expect anything Super beyond the movies.

Stop saying this like it means anything.
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>>381257345
Janemba is shit and a fanfiction tier super buu. Wanting movie characters puts you on par with wanting GT and Super trash, I hope you know that.
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>>381264757
From what I saw of the gameplay he doesn't look very fun to use sadly.
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>>381264254
I fucking hate Broly, but this guy is a selling factor.
In a game like this, people will be wet just by seeing his huge 3d model with Xrd art style.
They are gay for him and that's why he is in every fucking game.
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>>381265089
People want Janemba because he has the potential for a really interesting moveset
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>>381265119
More like people are trying to use him like a rushdown character When he's better for mid range combat.
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>>381263151
>black
>cool super character
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>>381250069
Agreed
Kid Buu is stronger but Super Buu looks way more badass.
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>>381263128
>implying I wanna see the Switch get support
Kek.

Get cucked Nintendildo. It's what you get for spamming your shitty tablet on here every day. If you wanted games, you'd have bought a real console.
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Teen Gohan is the only Gohan we need. No clones or repeats please.

I'd rather lose Adult Gohan and get Android 20 with a meter-stealing move.
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>>381265089
except movie characters are better than 90% of canon characters you dumb faggot
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>>381265640
Super Buu is actually stronger than Kid Buu, SSJ3 Goku was clearly outmatched by Super Buu but was able to fight evenly with Kid until SSJ3's stamina problems kicked in
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>>381265640
>Super Buu
It would be a pain in the ass to make since he absorb characters like Kirby and get new outfits for each character in the game. They would have to rework the model for every frame, add new moves instead of working on a new character. I doubt they will choose him over Kid Buu.
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>>381254506
My nigga.
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Name 3 characters you would add just for the moveset alone. moveset as in more than one move

17 & 18 fighting as a single character with team up attacks
Janemba
General Tao
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>>381249119
>no android 17
>but android 18
what are you doing
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>>381263479
>This faggot again
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>>381248645
That's not confirmed.
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>>381266974
18 is right there, look again.
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>>381266775
Hit
Dabura
Zarbon with the ability to transform
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What is with all these Dragonball tards who think shit DB characters are the best thing ever? It really leads me to believe that the whole "contrarian" thing is true about /v/. Why would you want those mediocre characters?
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>>381266775
Kid Goku, Master Roshi, Teen Bulma.

>>381266556
Super Buu isn't stronger than Kid Buu, wait... nvm, he is. With Gohan Absorbed he was the strongest in Z.

iirc, it went:
Buuhan>Buutenks>Buuccolo>Super Buu>Kid Buu>Fat Buu
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>>381267480
Those characters are from a time when the fighting in DB was about fun techniques and actual martial arts instead of beam spam and dadadadadadadada punching, so they lend themselves well to this kind of game. I hope you're not shitting on Mercenary Tao right now.
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>>381267480
Are you a Zfag? (You) have to be specific on who these shit characters are?
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>>381267480
Dragonball is a good series, and has a lot memorable characters with distinct fighting styles that would make for good additions to a fighting game.
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>>381265434
>He doesn't like SUBARASHII.
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>>381263151
just realised we'll probably get female broly from super instead of actual broly
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>>381267480
Because not all of us are clapburgers who began watching the series with Z.

I started with OG Dragonball at the age of 5/6, it was the bomb watching Goku grow up, and then become a father in Z. OG Dragonball was also more Martial Arts focused, and had better fights than the beamspam in Z, thus you have a lot more unique characters in it.
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>10 characters + dlc
>15 characters + dlc
>less than 18 characters
>in a 3 vs 3

You really want this game to fail, right?
If it was 1 vs 1 I could see less than 20, but 3 vs 3? With less than 18 would mean people fighting online over and over with the same characters, shit would die soon

With DB they don't even need to create characters from zero, thinking of some style of fighting and drawing over and over until they get a design right. Characters already exist, they just need to choose and make them work, even some characters already have a defining style through the series or other games(like Goku likes to kick a lot, Piccolo with use long arms, Gotenks silly atacks, Kid Buu a fast combo character, a Broly that will be like a Hugo, etc)
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>>381248567
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>>381247539
There's like 100 fucking characters in DBZ wat. This game is finished.
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>>381247539
Your estimate is safe but I'm going to guess 15

I really feel bad for the Spaniards who are expecting another DBZ simulator with shitty gameplay and quantity > quality
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>>381248309
>30 characters
Lol
>aksys
Lol
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>>381264757
>>381265119
>>381265395
I KINDA get Slayer vibes from him, but that might just be because he has the least projectiles of the 6 in the demo and has a very similar slide (although I assume it's more of a reference to Wakamoto also voicing Bison).
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>>381247539
>mfw Rhymestyle is already telling his fanbase to expect 30-40 characters max like it's a conservative number
those kids don't know what's gonna hit them
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>>381266775
16
Nappa
Super 13

Big motherfuckers with super armor and command grabs are my lifeblood. I have hope 16 could make it to the roster though, although at this point he'd probably be the kind of character they'd put into the first update of the game.
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They better have all forms of Buu, or maybe the ability to transform during the fight. And since it has Golden Freiza, Beerus and maybe Whis would be nice. They better have Mystic Gohan and a Great Saiyaman costume if they include base form Teen Gohan.
Doesn't really matter tho, Perfect Cell is in there so I'm probably gonna buy.
>>381248770
>Yamcha
They might not even have Tien imo, despite him being probably one of the strongest of the human Z-Fighters.
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>>381252228
This is basically my prediction for the full roster
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>>381268476
Hiro pls, the only big thing about 2B is her butt.
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>>381268405
>40
Holy shit I knew Rhymestyle was retarded but that's just ridiculous
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>>381268184
Would you like to spend your own personal time and money developing and balancing a roster of 100 characters for a 2.5d competitive fighting game?
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>>381268501
>They better have all forms of Buu
yeah cool let's waste 3 fucking roster slots on the Buu forms

Fat Buu is all you're getting
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>>381248309
morons like you who know nothing about making fighting games are the people spreading the "ARMS doesn't have enough characters to be full price" meme.
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>>381268501
Tien is really likely. He's a Z Fighter and relatively popular while also having a ton of unique moves. ArcSys has said they chose most of the cast for gameplay reasons, there's no way he's passed over if that's the case.
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>>381267480
>Kid Goku with Power Pole
>Roshi or Jackie Chun style
>Tenshinhan with Dodonpa, Kihiko, paradox triangle attack, solar tech, volley attack, etc
>Yamcha with wolf techniques and a controlled "spirit bomb"
>King Piccolo with those destructive demon techs
>Yajirobe with sword
>23rd Tournament Chichi with fan
>that human/Kami with those weird ass techniques

Even Grandpa Gohan had a different way of fighting. If they wanted, every single of these characters would fight in a different way
I won't say Tao, because Tenshinhan, but wouldn't mind him either, peharps Mecha would be better with that sword and boosted dodonpa
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To all the people bitching about roster size and DLC characters. I wonder if you know the cost of a SINGLE fighting game character.


Ballpark it for me, how much, and how many man hours do you reckon?
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>>381268674
Find me a single person who thinks this way that is of average intelligence or greater. You can't.
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>>381268843
Don't bother dude. These are the same faggots that unironically paid for Xenoverse twice to make their shitty donutsteels.
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>>381268663
Fat Buu was the best choice, honestly. Super Buu's best trait is borrowing moves from other characters and Kid Buu just throws pink suns.
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>>381268946
Jesus christ, has ki spamming ever killed a person in the series?
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>>381247539
>18-20
>in the first game
It'll be about 12 at most.
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Should i buy Xenoverse 2? the last Dragon Ball i played was Raging blast 1 and that game sucks ball.
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>>381268843
>things costs money and can be a chore to do

No way
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>>381247539
23, just like the last two digits of this post.
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>>381269214
Of course not.
Why do you think it's Vegeta's signature move?
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>>381269462
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man i forgot piccolo could just manifest clothes
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>>381268917
It peeves me cause I come from an era where you were lucky to get 12 in the first game, that was considered normal, and you were happy with it.

>>381269406
It cost the Skullgirls devs $250,000 to add ONE DLC character. And the cost goes up exponentially with each addition due to balance and testing.

The PMDevs spent 10,000 manhours to add Mewtwo to the game.

Let that sink in for a moment. And these are indie guys. When you're paying professionals, you're paying industry standard wages, so kick that $250,000 per character to a good half-million.
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>>381247539
I thought they said it was 24. 12 bad guys and 12 good guys.
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>>381269462
>it's Vegeta's signature move?
Not in DBS as you can see >>381268946
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>>381269892
I mean, it is a 3v3 game so I'm expecting 18-22, but yeah, it's fucking irritating.
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>>381266556

No kid buu is strongest.
>>381267498
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>>381270050
They didn't confirm anything.
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I'd rather 15 really well done characters than 30 generic ones
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>>381269892
I get the feeling Skullgirls characters took a lot more time than a 3D model with some animu shader trickery like Guilty Gear. Although the shaders probably took a while to figure out in the first place.
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>>381270084
DBS pales in comparison to Z.
And that doesn't cover all of Vegeta's uses of it in Super.
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>>381270092
Kid Buu is weaker.
He is only the most dangerous one to fight because he doesn't care about not blowing up the planet.
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>>381270203
>And that doesn't cover all of Vegeta's uses of it in Super.
Yeah because Goku uses it more than just Vegeta now, that's point of the webm.
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>>381270085
25 is my personal guess, after it's all said and done. No doubt it'll get a sequel too.

But a low number like 15 wouldn't surprise or upset me. I know it'd disappoint many though. Due to the hype it's gotten, I'm ASW is gonna try to push the roster size even further, simply cause small roster would hurt sales.
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>>381270341
How can that be the point when it doesn't cover all of them?
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>>381270189
Lool up the GDC video on Xrd, those shaders are no easy task. You have no manually light each frame to get it right from EVERY angle. That's why it looks so good.
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>>381269892
Like I said, things costs money and a job can be boring or tiresome, that's how life is.
When you get into a business you should know what it is going to happen and the consequences, if you don't that's your fault.
I, the consumer, shouldn't care about that because that's not my job, companies offer some kind of service, if I like it, I buy it and support them, if I don't like it I don't buy it. They fail? Their problem. If I fail in my life others shouldn't care about that, because that's my problem and issue
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>unique playstyles
>everyone just punches each other really fast
>spams small ki shots
>and instant transmissions everywhere
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Goku
Vegeta
Gohan
Krillin
Piccolo
Super Trunks
Goten+Trunks with fusion super
Mystic Gohan
Super Goku
Super Vegeta

Frieza
Cell
Fat Buu
Kid Buu
17
18
Hit
Goku Black
Zamasu
Broly

Universe survival dlc
Xenoverse dlc
Movie dlc
Post universe survival arc dlc
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>>381270341
>Yeah because Goku uses it more than just Vegeta now
>he hasn't watched Super
Vegeta still uses it more dude.
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>>381249119
Probably no Chaozu or Yamcha desu. Chaozu had potential for cool weird attack back in the original manga but he's the most worthless character no contest.
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I want Future Trunks to be an edgy sword character. I don't want them to go with typical super saiyan for him. I want that nostalgia to be filled out for me, despite the fact his sword was useful only once and literally never again.

Arksys bb please, i don't know what else they could do to make him special outside of giving him buff boi trunks as an augment.
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>>381270641
>one female
Seems like we need some Super characters
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>>381270364

18 would be a good fit I think. Some variety, and once you get to that point you're scraping the barrel a bit anyway since most of the mainstays will be there if they're primarily focused on Z. That seems like a good balance point between rosterfags and having a competently balanced and fun fighting game.
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1. Goku
2. Vegeta
3. Gohan
4. Krillin
5. Piccolo
6. Future Trunks
7. Gotenks
8. 18
9. Frieza
10. Cell
11. Fat Buu
12. Kid Buu
13. Beerus
We either get Android 16 or Broly as a grappler
We get Videl, Launch, Teen Bulma or Chi-Chi as an extra girl
Hit and Zamasu as DLC
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>>381270926
>Bulma
>Videl
>Chi Chi
>Arale

I think those four have a lot more interesting moveset potential than Caulifla.
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>>381270926
slender saiyan sluts
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>>381265640
Kid Buu is more unique. Super Buu is basically Perfect Cell 2.0 both in proportions and personality.
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Rate my roster.

Goku
Gohan
Krillin
Future Trunks
Yamcha
Master Roshi
Tien
Videl
Vegeta
Piccolo
Frieza
Cell
Maijin Buu
Beerus
Whis
Android 18
Android 17
Zarbon
Zamasu
Mercenary Tao
Broly
Bardock
Arale
Monster Carrot
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>>381256992
Will Zamasu be in that form or his mutated one? I'm gonna guess mutated because then he'll have his giant form as an install
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>>381266504
Kid Gohan honestly has more unique moves, had the best personality and he's from when the story was still good. But I'd be fucking delusional to expect him over anything else.
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Will there be a story mode? I really want a story mode.
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>>381271819
Multi-stage boss fight

Starts out against Black/Zamasu team, then they fuse, then when he's near death he goes all mutated
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>>381272038
Probably.
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>>381270543
Cool.

Brand new fighting games have around 15 characters when released. You want to have 40+ characters? You don't want a fighting game.

Also, don't bitch about DLC characters and cosmetics Mr. Consumer. Those are paying for the original roster, and any future additions.
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>Golden Freeza winds up being the only nuDBZ/Super content while GT and movie material gets in
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>>381266775
Grappler Recoome, 2fast Burter, 19 or Gero for super bar absorption and Babidi with his fuccbois.
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>>381247539
the "I want 7000 characters" is what killed dbz games in the first place. go get chemo
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>>381272213
I could live with that
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>>381272038
There will but, they will take some liberties with it.
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>>381247539
>>381247786
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezrbyf6t9mY&list=LLUV5v9Kny24XzPQADnTafdQ
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>>381272410
stupid ankle slut
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>>381267480
>He divides with Z and not-Z
>He prefers Saiyan arc and onwards over previous ones (except Piccolo Daimao).
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As long as they have Piccolo and Future Trunks I'm good.
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This thread strengthens my prediction that this game is dead on arrival because Dragon Ball fans will bitch about the roster because they only care about single player and the FGC don't play ASW games.
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>>381272679
Those two are 100% guaranteed
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>>381272679
It'll be Z Trunks, not Super Trunks
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No Caulifla no buy
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>>381247828
Yeah same
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>>381272920
Let's see, these devs are known to be unpredictable.

>>381272964
That's the one I meant, I don't even watch Super.
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>>381272978
I fucking hate you and your kin, faggot.
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>>381272748
The relation to Marvel mechanics and the DragonBall name will tempt a lot of FGC players from all kinds of fighting games to play this game. I was at CEO and pretty much everyone was excited to play it whenever I mentioned it.
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>>381272978
Needs more bending over and a big piccolo dick grinding in and out of her asshole until the accelerando begins with the triumphant climax.
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>>381272978
She won't ever get in and neither will Broly in drag
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>>381273048
Whats wrong Anon? Can't handle a strong independent women who bullys ur dick?
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>>381254376
It's a 3v3 game

most of the characters will be samey, have you played Marvel?
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>>381263128
Please respond
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>>381270092
>>381266556
>>381267498
Super Buu is the strongest.

Kidd Buu is the most dangerous because he is fucking insane.
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>>381273032
I can't imagine a universe where fan favorites and staples of the series like Piccolo and Trunks don't make the roster. It's impossible.
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>>381273185
male only
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>>381273119

Nope, we'll get close the MvCI's release, tournyfags will pick it up for Capcom sponsored tournaments and monkey see, monkey do will take care of the wider FGC.
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>>381247539
>6 characters
>no mirror matches allowed
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>>381273275
It's not that he's insane he's just too legit to quit. Super Buu is prideful and completely obnoxious but Kid Buu is just sure of himself.
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Real talk, will this be the first actual, competitive fighting game with pretty much no waifus? I just realized this and it is slightly disappointing because I'm just now realizing how godlike fightan waifus (and husbandos) are. At least they got the husbando part in spades.
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>>381272978
>arcsys will never lovingly render her pussy lips
what's even the point of this video game
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>>381273814
to attract competitive players so that they can make more money without selling sex which is what the community yields the most
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>>381247539
Basegame will only have 10, the 3 saiyans originally unlocked and the rest behind storymode
-Goku
-Gohan
-Vegeta
-Piccolo
-Krillin
-Tien Shin Han
-Yamcha
-Freeza
-Majin Buu
-Beerus
Then there will be DLC expansion packs ( Namek, Ginyu, Trunks, Cell, Bibidi, Movies 1-2, Classic, GT, Super 1-2) containing 4-6 characters each,
5 bucks a piece.
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>>381273639
What about Android Baeteen?
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>>381273639
Vegeta is a good waifu
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>>381272978
She might as well be naked in this picture. I mean, her pants are so low they'd fall off if she were to move.
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>>381273639
HnK isn't competitive enough for you?
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>>381273924
Fucking horrendous art style
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>>381272978
i want to be bullied by feisty saiyan waifs a lot more than i want to play fighting games, this is a sentiment i can agree with
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>>381272978
best super girl coming through
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>>381274272
no fatties allowed sorry
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>>381273581
Kid Buu is a retard though. If he had fought ultimate Gohan he would have gotten obliterated due to being completely outclassed. Super Buu on the other hand immediately noticed he was outmatched and dragged out his fight with Gohan for as long as he could by pretending to be weaker, pretending to kill himself by blowing himself up, and demanding to fight gotenks again, because he knew that absorbing Gotenks was his only chance. The only flaw Super Buu had, besides being a semi-functional retard, was that he got too cocky after absorbing Gotenks and Gohan.
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>>381273639

18 and Videl will be able to cover it for the people that have to have it. DBZ's relative lack of waifuism is one of its stronger points in retrospect, it doesn't really need it.
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>>381272583
Ginyu Force is like that weird miniboss group that you face before the main boss. Like the ultra elite team that has weird members with weird abilities. It's like in every fucking anime. No way DBZ started that trend... right?
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>>381274270
A shame that Caulifla is a bony stick that can't do any kind of proper dominating.
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>>381273639
Who's your husbando, anon?
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>>381273639
There are about four girls they could make playable out of the original series than there's the Sayian girls.
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>>381274337
Super Buu's biggest flaw was his inability to react to change. After absorbing Gohan and Gotenks he still took every new fight as if it were some regular fight.

Kid Buu on the other hand reacts almost immediately to change, forcing the battle to go his way even if it was already flowing in his direction. His sporadic attitude was the exact antithesis of what made Super Buu a shitty fighter and horrible tactician in the first place.
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>>381274469
You posted him :3
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DB Master Roshi would be tight af.
Mr Satan would also be cool.
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>>381263128
Shit nigga I dont care one way or the other, but a coin toss came up heads so I'll give it a retweet.
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>>381274365
>DBZ's relative lack of waifuism is one of its stronger points in retrospect,
Honestly, this. DBZ is known for its excessive masculinity. It's a show for young boys about muscular dudes beating each other up with martial arts. The girls in DB have always been second class, and purely sideline cheerleaders, and comedic eye candy. Any time a girl ever fought in DB, she normally just got her ass kicked.
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>>381274337
>If he had fought ultimate Gohan he would have gotten obliterated due to being completely outclassed.
Kid Buu was completely outclassed by Goku in SSJ3 and look what happened there.
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>>381274764
Good taste. Sucks that he'll never be back though
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>>381273639
>waifushittery
Holy shit kill yourself.
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>>381274719
Kid Buu doesn't react to anything. There is no logic in anything he does. He just wants to destroy and kill. Like I said before, if he had been in Super Buu's shoes when he fought Gohan, he would have gotten destroyed. I mean Kid buu is such a dumb retard that he completely ignored Goku making a spirit bomb because he was too busy kicking the shit out of Vegeta for laughs. Super Buu on the other hand immediately adapted his strategy when he noticed Gohan powered up, while fighting SSJ3 Gotenks. Then he did the same as Buutenks, since he knew his fusion was about to run out, so he deliberately left a piece of his head tail unattached to absorb Gohan. He is one of the better strategists in the series after absorbing Piccolo, but he is too cocky.
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>>381274365
> DBZ's relative lack of waifuism is one of it's stronger points in retrospect

how can anyone be so deluded they think Dragonball had a lack of waifuism
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>>381274913
No he wasn't. They were about even. Ultimate Gohan was a LOT more powerful than SSJ3 Goku, who was even weaker due to Goku being alive.
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>>381275116
Compare to other series these days it does.
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>>381274337
>. Super Buu on the other hand immediately noticed he was outmatched and dragged out his fight with Gohan for as long as he could
Lolwtf? Kid Buu would have just nuked the planet 5 times over. Maybe you didn't read the right chapters.

>pretending to kill himself by blowing himself up
>pretended
this never happened, Gohan waited for him as he knew he was hiding

>that he got too cocky after absorbing Gotenks and Gohan.
No, not really. Goku used Instant Transmission the instant Buuhan tried to attack him, and then Buuhan had a ki blast ready to kill Vegeta and Goku but they fused before he could do so. I don't know about the anime because of filler, but reading the manga, he TRIES to kill Goku the instant he absorbs Gohan. He was never cocky.
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>>381274368
No it didn't
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>>381247935
muh nigga
Raditz is my main in every Db game and I never knew why.
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>>381275109
>Kid Buu doesn't react to anything. There is no logic in anything he does. He just wants to destroy and kill.

That's a logic. Because he's like that, even if it's completely asinine and retarded, it's a form of thinking that's highly adaptive.
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>>381275116
It had female characters, that's all, save for some exceptions they weren't the focus most of the time.
Though now people call any female character a waifu, so yeah, you can say DB had a lot of waifuism going with that notion.
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>>381274913
>Kid Buu was completely outclassed by Goku in SSJ3
Not even remotely. If you actually look at the fight and read each bubble, it implies that Kid Buu wasn't trying at all. If anything Goku was the weaker one and Kid Buu was just fucking around the entire time. Also Goku was losing stamina rapidly, so by the end of the fight Kid Buu could've won in seconds if he desired.
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>>381275116

Not nearly to the extent that other series tend to have. From what I recall the only women you really see all the way through Namek are Chichi and Bulma in cutaways, with a small smattering of Bulmas mom. You inevitably get some of those dudes like 18fags, but I think that has more to do with sheer popularity than the show pandering to the idea very much.
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MY LIST

>CONFIRMED
Goku
Gohan
Vegeta
Freeza
Cell
Buu

>PRACTICALLY GUARANTEED
Android 18
Android 17
Krillin
Trunks (Probably just future Trunks because Kid Trunks doesn't bring any unique moves to the table)
Beerus
Mr. Satan
Goten
Piccolo

>PROBABLY
Master Roshi
Whis
Babidi
Tenshinhan
Android 16
Raditz
Nappa
Gotenks (brings a unique moveset that Goten and Kid Trunks don't such as the Kamikaze Ghost Attack and stuff)

>MAYBE
Bardock
Uub
Zarbon
Doctor Gero
Yamcha

>COMPLETE UNKNOWN
Mr. Popo
Kami
Korin
Dende
Bulma
Chaozu
Videl
Yajirobe
Arale
Dodoria
Fortuneteller Baba
Anyone from any of the different Universes in Dragon Ball Super
Anyone from the Ginyu Force
Any of the Kais
Anyone from Dragon Ball Era such as Kid Goku, King Piccolo, Chi Chi, etc.
Any different forms of Buu
Any other fusions such as Vegito, Gogeta, etc.
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I've been rewatching dragon ball and Z funimation to get hype, and I'm amazed at how many things they let get through for what was marketed to children

>literally every bulma joke/flash whatever
>goku and oolong's dink
>goku the pussy grabber
>rape jokes
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>>381270462
By showing you how much Goku spams it.

>>381270684
>Vegeta still uses it more dude.
No he doesn't.
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>>381275479
Fat Buu before Evil Buu split from him was the most powerful Buu.
Goku tells Vegeta that he could've beaten Fat Buu in SS3 but he wanted to let the new generation handle it themselves.
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>>381249119
I don't know if they'll include characters like Beerus and Whis. Without a doubt if they do add those characters they are going to age poorly because we have hardly any idea for what their actual powers look like and moves that they'd use pushed to the edge.
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>>381275717
FUCK I FOROGT OT MOVE GOTEN AND KID TRUNKS TO UNKNOWN SHIT
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>>381275324
I guess it's different in the anime. In it Super Buu was pretending to be weaker in the beginning of the fight. Gohan even tells him to quit pretending to be hurt.

He blew himself up in order to hide and Goten and Trunks thought he killed himself trying to kill Gohan.

Also in the anime he gives goku a chance to fuse with anyone he wants in the next 10 seconds. Then when he finds Goku and Vegeta, he toys around with them for a bit.

>>381275406
Yes, you're right. Kid Buu is clearly playing 16-d chess and everyone is too dumb to notice.
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>>381275785
No. Fat Buu was weakened by having the Fat Kai in him. That was the whole reason they let Kid Buu absorb him. Fat Buu is the weakest of the bunch.
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>>381274025
thanks doc
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>>381275116
DBZ never had forced waifu garbage.
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How likely is Ginyu?
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Why is Raditz never mentioned again after the saiyan arc?

I know he is not really a liked character, but considering he is the brother of the most powerful fighter in the galaxy it seems kinda strange. He doesn't even appear in movies or GT where all baddies get revived.

I would have liked to see where his character would go, or what his true potential was.
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>>381276093
50/50 honestly. He has a much better chance of getting than the rest of the Ginyu Force though.
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>>381276115
Nope
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>>381275941
Fat Buu wasn't literally weakened by Fat Kai. It's not like his power went down. He just became a lot more docile and stopped going all out. In his fight with SSJ3 Goku, when he started getting angry, he started matching Goku, and even outclassing him. Fat Buu in theory could have been as strong as Super Buu, if he wasn't holding back all the time.
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>>381267138
theres literally gameplay videos
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>>381275941
>Fat Buu was weakened by having the Fat Kai in him.
No, he was mellowed after absorbing him which allowed Bibidi to seal him.
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>>381276323
Of 3v3. There are no gameplay videos of there not being anything else.
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>>381276323
And the producer herself confirming it.
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>>381247539
>game has Story and Arcade like every fighting game today
>Goku saves the day in the Story
>every Arcade ending also has Goku saving the day
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>>381276470
They should do like the old dynasty warriors games and have whoever you're playing as be the big hero. What if scenarios
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>>381276595
No. Goku is cool as heck, and he should always be the hero for every story.
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>>381276470
You know, the premise for Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans would make a good story for a fighter.
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>>381275717
>Beerus
I will be the happiest person in the world if that garbage meme of a character doesn't make it in
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>>381275934
Nooooo.

It's like if I'm a better fighter than you, and you realize it, you as Super Buu, realize your limitations and seek NEW power to combat me. But if I'm a better fighter than you, and you realize it (this isn't the case but whatever), you as Kid Buu not only don't care about my power level, but your attitude about fighting is so unreasonable that no one can even spend two seconds to fight with you because you're absolutely retarded. He's not insane, he's just extremely dangerous because of his unpredictability, it's like putting a borderline personality patient in a room full of hot men, there's literally no telling what will happen, but you can be certain the patient will adapt as fast as possible to the circumstance.
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>>381277015
Wait, what does the room being full of hot men have to do with anything?
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>>381276992
they already included gold frieza so the (two) newer Z movies are on the table.
prepare to not be the happiest person.
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>>381277123
He has borderline personality disorder so I would imply that homoerotic propensities would be available.
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>>381276992
Beerus is too popular not to be in.
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>>381277173
I can hope but if he's in, I'm not buying the game
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Have they said anything for sure about how big the roster will be?
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>>381277015
His unpredictability goes out the window when he is confronted with someone who eclipses him in power. Like what the fuck would kid buu do against Beerus. He would try to take him on like a retard. Meanwhile Super Buu would run away and try to absorb something, or go for broke and try to absorb Beerus. It's a much better strategy than challenging someone who outclasses you completely.
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>>381277307
That's a terrible reason to not buy a game.
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>>381277307
haha
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>>381276115

I like him, I think he has a really cool design.

He has an SSJ3 card in Dragon Ball Heroes.
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just gimme like one or two Dragon Ball reps that's all i want
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>>381277307
You won't be missed then
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>>381277362
But that's exactly my point. He responds to change immediately. He doesn't just wait for an opportunity to arise like a retard (Super Buu), he goes into epileptic shock and throws a world class temper tantrum. That's responding to your situation. Super Buu didn't respond to his situation, if other fighters didn't exist at the time, he would have been dead, not only because of the power level but because of his inability to handle those kind of environmental changes.

Perfect Cell handled changes on the battlefield flawlessly. Frieza handled change on the battlefield flawlessly. Kid Buu even handles change on the battlefield flawlessly, even if it's from the other end of the spectrum of being cool and collected. As far as these things go Super Buu behaved just like Garlic Jr. or some other low class villain introduced earlier, relying solely on opportunity to get him the V.
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>>381277627
I guarantee we're getting tenshinhan and piccolo but stuff like King Piccolo I don't think so unfortunately.
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>>381277763
>Perfect Cell handled changes on the battlefield flawlessly.

He hulked out against Gohan even though he told Trunks who did the same thing that it wouldn't accomplish anything.
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>>381277763
>Perfect Cell handled changes on the battlefield flawlessly.
>The that spergs out and ragequits
I like him, but really anon?
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If we're not getting transformations (aside from special attacks and some exceptions) I wish to see shit like 1st form frieza and Mecha frieza as costumes even if it made no sense.

Other cell forms too and Goku with different outfits, that'd be nice but I'd rather have more variety in characters, Tao PaiPai, Picollo, Pillaf Mech etc...
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>>381277932
He also forced Gohan into a state of submission by wrecking his arm and killing 16 forcing him to fight under severe pressure and stress which is a hell of a lot more tactical than absorbing the nearest fighter who is strong.

Even Vegeta is a better tactician than Super Buu hell Raditz and the Ginyu Force are more reliable in a fight than Super Buu. Not to mention the entire Majin troop. The only kind of plausible way you could explain his attitude on battlefield climate is to say he didn't expect people to be stronger than him, which is exactly why he fails to adapt.
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>>381257767
why do you guys not like 17? ;_;
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>>381247539
I'd be pleased with 20, but even that seems pushing it a bit.

At least my main is pretty much guaranteed to be in.
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>>381277763
once cell realized that gohan was more powerful than him he immediately gave up and went into suicide bomb the entire fucking planet mode

i wouldn't really call that handling battlefield changes well
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>>381278284
thanks doc
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>>381259171
>20

No
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>>381268663
Fuck off, having at least two of the Buu forms is alright. They usually all play pretty differently anyways.
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>>381278276
>He also forced Gohan into a state of submission by wrecking his arm
Yeah because Vegeta was being a retard.
Again.
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>>381277763
If other fighters didn't exist Super Buu would have just blown up the planet and left. He had a plan from the beginning when he noticed gohan had powered up when fighting SSJ3 Gotenks. His "tantrum" was all part of it. He wanted to wait for Gotenks to try fusion again to become the strongest majin, which he already was anyways.

>Perfect Cell handled changes on the battlefield flawlessly
Was completely unprepared for SSJ2. Shat his pants and tried blowing up the earth. Hulked out like Trunks, even though he knew it was inferior form and got turned back to semi-perfect because of it.

>Frieza handled change on the battlefield flawlessly
Was completely unprepared for SSJ. Shat his pants and tried blowing up Namek. Hulked out to 100%, even though he knew he his body couldn't handle it. Gave up his second chance at life by throwing a tantrum with no hope of winning and got cut in half. Gave up his third chance by attacking Goku as he was leaving.

>Kid Buu even handles change on the battlefield flawlessly
Completely ignored Goku as he was making a spirit bomb that he knew could wipe him out. Would rather have fun beating up Vegeta for 20 minutes than taking a few seconds off to kill Goku.

>>381278276
He didn't plan any of that. He didn't know he would come back from blowing himself up, nor did he plan on using Vegeta as bait for Gohan to get injured. Vegeta simply made a foolish choice and he capitalized on it. Just like Goten and Trunks made the foolish choice to fuse, and Super Buu capitalized on it.
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>>381278327
He forced Gohan into crybaby mode and still got away with it, I'm not saying he was the smartest fighter, but he handles change positively instead of relying on exigent factors. He improvises instead of waiting for opportunities to arrive.

You can't say"well it was just written that way," Cell had no choice but to improvise.
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>>381278276
>killing 16 forcing him to fight under severe pressure and stress which is a hell of a lot more tactical than absorbing the nearest fighter who is strong.

Him killing 16 was the biggest mistake he did and he didn't even need to do it considering he could've crushed Gohan without much difficulty there.
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>>381278554
He literally did it on purpose because he knew the pressure would cause Gohan to crumble, and it did but he didn't know that sayians respond a lot differently to that kind of anxiety, and he still made room for change after that fact.
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>>381278460
Frieza killed Krillin at the first sign of trouble, blew a hole inside Piccolo right after shit got real, killed Krillin again, and proceeded to fight Goku with the expertise of his father's training. There was just no way he would be able to overcome a SSJ AND a brilliant tactician like Goku and they made that super clear in the show. Goku even says the stupid line, "He was just a monkey right?"
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>>381252228
i dont think anyone else will make it
arcsys makes games with small rosters
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>>381278284
Piccolo better have these clothes as an alternate set.
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>>381279412
>Alternate costumes
>Arcsys game
Only if your Noel
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>>381277627
The game has a fireball button, so they'd need to be someone who never made it to Z but is capable of using Ki. And I can't think of anyone that applies too.
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>>381279412
He better have clothes beam as his level 3.
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>DBS

I will never understand how anyone can watch that crap.
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>>381279894
I like Beerus.
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>>381279894
It's better than GT.
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Rate my roster. I went with 24 because there are 24 slots, plus 2 extra characters.

>1)Goku SSJ
>2)Vegeta SSJ
>3)Gohan SSJ2
>4)Mystic Gohan
>5)Frieza
>6)Perfect Cell
>7)Majin Buu
>8)Kid Buu
>9)Piccolo
>10)Trunks SSJ
>11)Krillin
>12)Tien (+ Chiaotzu)
>13)Roshi
>14)Android 16 (+ C17 and C18)
>15)Captain Ginyu (+ Ginyu Force)
>16)Kid Goku
>17)Mercenary Tao
>18)Hercule
>19)Black Goku SSR (+ Zamasu)
>20)Beerus (+ Whis)
>21)Broly LSS
>22)Gotenks SS3
>23)Dabura (+ Babidy)
>24)Bulma + Chichi

>Secret Character) Vegetto SSB

>Final Boss) Merged Zamasu

Idk. Maybe it's a little big
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>>381276296
>when he started getting angry, he started matching Goku,
This "i watched the anime" mentality needs to stop. There would be 0 confusion if you read the manga.
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>>381278281
Dude I love 17, but I don't think he's good enough to get his own slot. I think other characters deserve it more, and there are characters that aren't canon that deserve it more imo.
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>>381280081
No it's not.
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>>381280181
>16/17/18
>Ginyu force
>normal Zamasu
>Tao
>Hercule instead of videl
>Whis
>Bulma and chichi, not just one or the other
Dude, what the fuck?
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>>381279484
Tao. He has the Dodonpa
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>>381280181
>24 slots
Sauce?
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>>381280561
With "X+Y" I mean like, you play as X, and when you use a certain move Y comes in and does something, and that's the move. Does that makes sense?
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>>381247539
nothing spectacular. majority will be same characters but different forms. and assuming me get Super characters as well we will see base Goku, SS Goku, SSG Goku, and SSB Goku as separate slots. Same for Vegeta, SS Vegeta, SSB Vegeta, and Majin Vegeta
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>>381279480
Or elphelt
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>>381272978
Thank god. Nobody wants to run into you faggots online.
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>>381276178
If this wasn't a pure fighting game, maybe, but there's not much to remember Ginyu by aside from the bodyswap, which isn't something that translates well into fighting games. Recoome is more likely just because he better fits the build of the big slow characters ArcSys games have.
Recoome is also way more memorable than Ginyu
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>>381280765
That's cool, but ArcSys already spends a fat stack and multiple months just to make one character. If they fully animated 18 and 17, they may as well make them characters by themselves. You also had too many of those. Just 18 and 17 or Goten and Trunks would be fine, but Bulma/Chichi, Ginyu/force, and Tien/Chaozu? That's hundreds of thousands wasted.

You're list is too "hope-y," it's not really realistic. Subtract those added characters and maybe change a few of the base ones, and it's a solid rooster.
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>>381281145
>Recoome is also way more memorable than Ginyu
You think so? I think each member can be remembered well. But the only member that mattered was Burter, he was the fastes in the universe, after all.
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>>381281368
"fastest in the universe" doesn't count for anything in a game where homing dashes and teleports are universal mechnics, adapting a series that devolved into characters spouting "H-Hayai!" five times an arc.
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>>381281094
I would love to.

>You get to shut them up and btfo out of them
>They bought the game, increasing sales and the likelihood of a sequel and EVO chances
>Free boost to your W/L
I don't see the problem
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>>381281234
Honestly idk how asw works. Btw it's not that I added those "+ charachters" because I like them that much. It's that they could have incredibily cool gimmicks. Think about Chiaotzu, Babidy, or Guldo. I agree with you tho. I hope that at least these 3 will stay as support characters
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>>381281639
What if he had the fastest homing dash? What if it only cost him half a bar to do that instant crossup teleport thing?
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>>381281639
It can help. In the Tenkaichi games his attack animations were fast as fuck with like 10 hits per attack. Speed up emulation with Burter against red potara enemies was fucking intense.

Seriously, they could make him a speed character or some shit. Like he's a rushdown who attacks faster than others, and does more than 1 attack per hit, so it looks even faster.
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>>381277878
Which are guaranteed to be their lame watered-down depictions in DBZ. Piccolo and Tien had way more interesting fights in Dragonball. Hilarious that Toriyama tricked people into thinking Piccolo would be useful multiple times during Z.
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>>381282332
Problem is all their cool shit got inherently nerfed by the addition of powerlevels, cloning yourself and changing sizes for example
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>>381282332
Dragonball has some good fights in it but they're kind of opaque. At least in DBZ, the element of transparency is there so there's always a hidden meaning and sort of moral to draw out of every skirmish.
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>>381266775
The metalman from the first tournament arc in super would be cool. I can see his heat being a secondary bar he fills by drinking lava that buffs him debuffs his opponent. Maybe even make him lose meter to taunts to be true to the anime. I always liked non-grappler big boys and he fits that mold well

Bulma should be the game's Jagi/Teddie/Faust/Platinum. Switching between capsules for her "ki" button and using guns and gadgets for normals

I like the idea of Babidi and Spopovich as the puppet character, if only for that sweet ryona potential
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>>381282865
> but they're kind of opaque. At least in DBZ, the element of transparency
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A6_9Jk2djY
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>>381269214
Yes.
>future gohan
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>>381283336
nice
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>>381268946
Does anyone know why Resurrection of F arc looks so fucking awful?
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>>381268946
Why is this show so poorly animated?
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>>381283846
Budget issues, but who cares? Just watch the movie. There was no reason to redo the movies in the first place
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>>381249119
>20% means all the remaining work is on characters
no. Assuming they are doing the same tech as Xrd 20% means basic shit is done. In case you didnt know they had to edit the lighting on each frame to make the characters look the way they do
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Is DBxenoverse 2 any fun?
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I have a feeling there will be no joke characters like Satan/Hercule. And I don't think they're going to include much from Super, if anything at all.

That said, I bet we get 20-30 characters. 18 is bare minimum, that's how many notable heroes and villains appeared throughout Z.
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>>381283873
Because anime budgets are so tiny these days that you only ever get good animation when they save up their entire budget for the season for that one fight that the fanboys will praise to hell and back like it's the second coming of akira.

You know what I'm talking about.
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>people are already making excuses in case FighterZ dont have a lot of characters

What is wrong with you guys? Did Tekken fail so had that you have to latch onto the next game that might challenge Injustice and SF?
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>>381284441
>I have a feeling there will be no joke characters like Satan/Hercule.

BANG BANG BANG BANG
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Since there's no arcade version, 14 or 15 at launch, arcade version late 2018 coinciding with a re-release with a roster rounded to 20 with some fan choices, probably zamasu
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>>381284421
I only found the ranked/player matches fun, and even then the entcode got boring and the Black/SSJKaioken/Hit spam got annoying.
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What DBZ games allows me to warp around my opponent mid combo?
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everyone is pulling numbers out of their ass

it totally depends how much money/effort they want to spend on this game
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>>381247539
I want to fucking play as the Shenrons from GT
I know people don't like GT because it's not canon and all that but when I was a teenager I fucking loved GT
so it'd be great if they did something with it
and also Janemba
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>>381276076
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they need to improve the graphics on this piece of shit.
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>>381286153
>Janemba
As much as I may like them, he's the only non-canon character that logically deserves to be in the game given their stance on unique characters from all generations of DB. Janemba is the one fucking character that needs to get in, it's wasted potential if he doesn't.
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you think they'll make a solar flare mixup character?
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>>381285328
FighterZ
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>>381286127
could compare it to their last game and expect similar numbers to that. makes sense to me at least. so 15-17
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>>381275373
He has rad hair
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>>381286689

I'm betting it'll be a crucial part of Krillin or Tiens moveset.
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>>381248645
>Skullgirls can be 1v1, 2v2, 2v1, etc but DBFighterZ is only going to be 3v3.

This isn't true. They said they are also working on a 1v1 mode.
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it's pronounced fighters, right? really annoying that people don't get this
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>>381286689
Maybe like a mortal kombat freeze?
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why's this trunks knowing how to transfer energy thing such a big kai-apprentice only thing when goku did it for freeza
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>>381287113
>They said they are also working on a 1v1 mode.
nigga, source
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>>381287181
It's pronounced fighterz
Anyone who says fighter z is wrong.
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>>381287313
>nigga, source


https://youtu.be/3kp5saiVoZc

It's in here somewhere. I'm rewatching now so I don't know the timestamp.
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>every now and again you'll be watching a tournament and the two players will have decided to both charge up before the match
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>>381287975
>puts you in ch state
You're going to see zero charging up.
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>>381288082
>ch state
im not a fightan guy, pls explain dude
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>>381288082
I'm talking about two players agreeing to do it before the match. And Max has already shown you can easily cover it by using assists. Could actually be a decent way to bate out those instant cross-up teleports.

>>381288161
Counter-hit, more damage and usually opens you up for more combo potential.
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>>381285328
Another angle. T3 was goat tier.
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>>381265130
I dislike Broly too, but he'd be a perfect Tager/Potemkin
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>>381265130
what are the chances of getting pan's cunny in the game then
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20-24 at launch. I'm high-balling a bit, but it doesn't sound totally unreasonable.
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>>381276296
Will we get to see Fit Buu?
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*passes cell a senzu bean*
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I just realized Freezer has seismic hammers, I know who at least one of my character's is going to be now.
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>Dragon Ball "Zee"
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>>381291848
A friend and I discussed that Senzu Beans should be somebody's super, and it should be Krillin's. He always is the guy that carries them around.

He could have a Level 3 where he takes a Senzu and heals like a third of his max health, but is in a Counter Hit state for a full second during it. You could DHC into another character on startup to heal them too.

Krillin doesn't have much besides Solar Flare & Destructo Disc to stand out from the rest of the cast. It'd be a neat way to establish him as a utility player.
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>>381292538
>level 3 for a third of his health
>when there is a universal mechanic in the game that's already a better version of that

Either make it more powerful or make it 1 bar
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>>381292485
>eurocucks
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>>381269339
Anything is an improvement over the raging blast games, xenoverse is a great solo or local coop experience for pvp. The online is only goos for paralell quests as the pvp is full of shitters with all the op moves
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>>381292651
Yeah I realized as I submitted that I made it too weak. I think Level 3 is still good for it since an instant heal would be too spammable at Level 1, but yeah I guess 2/3rds would be better. Higher heal fits what Senzus do too.

You could maybe balance it by having it based on Krillin's max health regardless of who you DHC into, so for instance Broly would get a smaller % heal even if numerically it'd be the same, since Broly would probably have a lot of health.
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>>381247539
https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2017/jun/20/which-five-dragon-ball-characters-do-you-hope-see-most-dragon-ball-fighterz/

Why is this such a shitty roster wishlist
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I hope they have characters that use capsules or scifi shit
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>>381285328
Xenoverse 2.
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>>381247539
I wish teen Gohan was his SSJ1 version. He looked cooler when his hair didn't go straight up.
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>>381247539
Whos getting /BLACKED/ here?
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>>381273639
18, Videl, Zangya, Caulifla, maybe Launch and Chichi should be good enough for the girl quota.
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If there's less than 25-30 in a 3v3 system the game is going to flop.
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>>381294225
Yeah, because it's sooo important when you see the same 5 characters in every MvC
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There's way too many DBZ characters they should be putting into this game to justify having lower than 30 playable.

There's 38+ in MvC, this game should AT LEAST have 30.

>Goku
>Vegeta
>Teen Gohan
>Mystic Gohan
>Kid Trunks
>Future Trunks
>Goten
>Gotenks
>Krillin
>Piccolo
>Tien
>Yamcha
>Yoshi
>Bulma
>Videl
>Mr. Satan
>Dabura
>Cell
>Frieza
>Kid Buu
>Fat Buu
>Super Buu
>Broly
>16
>17
>18

That's 26 right there, which should 100% be auto-included.
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Luffy guest characters, please.
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>>381295420
>all those clones
>16 and 17
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>>381296143
>wanting wan piss
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>>381297143
One Piece is great.
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Goku
Vegeta
Future Trunks
Teen Gohan
Mystic Gohan
Goten+Trunks (Disguised as Mighty Mask)
Gotenks

Krillin
Yamcha
Tenshinhan, The Strongest Human
Piccolo
Mr Satan
Bulma (Capsule Spammer)
Roshi

Raditz
Nappa
Frieza
Smug Cell
Fat Buu
Super Buu
Kid Buu

16
17
18
Broly
Videl
Saiyaman

Please rate
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>>381297487
What, no Ginyu?
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Kid Goku
Krillin
Yamcha
Kame Sennin
Tenshinan

Goku -> SSJ2
Piccolo
Vegeta -> SSJ2
Nappa
Freeza -> forms
Ginyu

Kid Gohan
Future Trunks
18
17
Cell

Gotenks
Gohan
Buu -> Smug Buu -> Kid Buu

Goku -> SSJG
Vegeta -> SSJG
Beerus
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>>381297487
Remove Goten+Trunks, just having Gotenks is enough
Remove Super Buu

replace them with Bardock and Android 20 with meter-stealing grabs

add Beerus
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>>381298138
they already said transformations will only happen if they work in canon. so no buu or cell transformations.
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Best roster coming through. All picks are extremely likely, except the DLC picks which are pure speculation.
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>>381295420
>There's way too many DBZ characters they should be putting into this game to justify having lower than 30 playable.
>There's 38+ in MvC, this game should AT LEAST have 30.
That's not how it works.
The way they do characters have nothing in common with any fighting game or 3D game, every fucking animation is composed of differents 3D models. Each 3D model is reworked (shadow, lights, shaders, deformation,...) to make it look that way. A single character have more bones than the entire cast of MvC:I, the cost and the time required to make one character is incomparable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32nxg1jqe54
http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1022031/GuiltyGearXrd-s-Art-Style-The

So yeah, if we get more than 15 characters for the first game, we are actually lucky.
Maybe we will have 20 characters since they seems less rich in term of moveset than Guilty Gear Xrd.

Also:
>Kid Trunks
>Goten
>Mr. Satan
>Dabura
>Super Buu
>16
>17
>which should 100% be auto-included
Nop.
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>>381298451
>Arale

Fuck off.
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>>381298374
>Remove Mighty Mask
Remove yourself from this high level discussion. Mighty Mask is the greatest.
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Gogeta or Vegito?
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Hope there's no Broly
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the strongest human
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>>381298528
Japanese would eat it up as DLC, plus she recently appeared in Super. Only true men of taste main Arale.
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>>381298567
We're already working with a limited roster, and you have Gotenks. There just isn't room for a one-off gag.
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>>381298451
>Radditz
>Nappa
>Ginyu
>17
>16
>Yamcha
>Kid Goku
>Dabura
Extremely likely?
Are you kidding me?
You will be disappointed.
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>>381298705
Vegetto, how is this even a question? Gogeta is hypothetical, has no appearances in canon, and in his non canon appearances he either has Vegetto's personality or none at all.
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>>381298705
Neither
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does golden frieza even do anything?
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>>381298875
Except they're all major characters in the series? And 17 is in the Tournament of Power so he's a shoe in.
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>>381298898
Purely for swag
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>>381298898
he plays for the Lakers
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i really just want teen goku
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theres a number thats been floated around which is 12 heroes and 12 villains. Would be happy with that. A 3v3 system with much less would be pretty fucking lame desu
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>>381299204
That's retarded. We already havw Goku and kid Goku is the next choice because he looks and fights differently. And Goku Black, too. We don't need 17 Gokus.
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>>381298898
pretty sure its increased power and speed, for sure speed because the couple demos ive seen frieza becomes much faster while golden
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>>381299007
The game might not have anything from Super, though.
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>>381299401
yeah i know maybe as an alternate costume he can have his old gi
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>>381299505
It already has Golden Frieza, don't talk out of your ass.
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>>381299505
Hit would be cool, and merged Zamasu as a final boss, but otherwise they can skip Super for all I care
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>>381298451
I wouldn't call really any of the bottom row of your normal roster "extremely likely." Out of those, I'd say only Gotenks is likely at all.
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>>381299751
Golden Freiza is from a Z movie. Same with Goku Blue and Beerus. That stuff predates Super.
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>>381299751
Golden Freeza is technically from a Z movie, as is Beerus
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>>381299705
Not really that different from his current gi... Most likely we'll get Ressurection F SSB alts, maybe end of Z if we're lucky. In a fighting game we have to be able to tell who is who in a mirror match at a glance.
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Friendship with goku ENDED.
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>>381299785
Kid Buu and Broly are shoe ins due to being among the most popular villians. Bardock is also very popular, enough to get spin offs. Kid Goku, with the attention to detail Arc is bringing, I'd hope they'd have that level of respect have Goku as he was at the beginning of the story, tons of games have done it. But he's less likelly. Dabura has unique movest potential and is the only major villian in the Buu saga who's not Buu, so he has a good chance.
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He's going to be playable.
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>>381249119
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>>381270926
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>>381300663
How much?
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>>381300396
I love Android 18 because she's an SJW's nightmare
>good looking blonde
>kicks ass initially and then becomes a house wife
>only cares about money and making her husband happy
Anyone think it's weird that they're still called Android 17 and 18 though? Even if Gero erased memories of their past lives you'd think they'd at least want to pick new names.
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>>381269683
MAH NIGGA YOU JUST GOT ROASTED
>>381269462
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>>381301820
>I love Android 18 because she's an SJW's nightmare
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Aren't we getting roster leaks today?
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This may sound over the top but im hoping for 30+ 5 dlc characters. Trying to set the bar high so if it ends up being 20+5 dlc then ill be ok
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I don't care as long as mah boy is in the game.
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>>381302179
Mouth blasts weren't used enough after the Frieza Saga.
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>>381302131
I think it's the 22nd homeboy. Though I may be thinking of something else. Honestly, this first roster leak doesn't sound that exciting. I'm expecting Piccolo and Future Trunks or Piccolo and Krillin as the leaked characters. Which would surprise a total of 0 people.
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>>381247539
Literally every character. Game is shit if not this.
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So I made a roster that I think would be good for a story mode without adding too many characters.

Goku
Piccolo
Raditz
Krillin
Tenshinhan
Nappa
Vegeta
Ginyu
Frieza
Trunks
16
17
18
Imperfect Cell
Perfect Cell
Teen Gohan
Fat Buu
Gotenks
Super Buu
Adult Gohan
Vegito
Kid Buu
Broly
Bardock

>Super DLC
Beerus
Hit
Black
Merged Zamasu
Caulifla
Kale
Cabba

>GT DLC
Kid Goku
SSJ4 Goku
SSJ4 Vegeta
SSJ4 Gogeta
Baby Vegeta
Super 17
Omega Shenron

Anything I should add or get rid of?
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>>381302661
Get rid of Raditz, Nappa, Imperfect Cell, Caulifla, Kale, Cabba, Kid Goku, SSJ4 Goku, SSJ4 Vegeta, Baby Vegeta, and Super 17.

Add Zamasu, Janemba, and Cooler.
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Why in the entire history of Dragon Ball has there never been a better ending than the very first?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i9mUSxq7Kg

It's just so good. The whole thing just reminds me of how optimistic the world used to be in the mid to late 80s.
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Besides Future Trunks, Beerus, Krillin, Android 18 and Kid Buu, I can't really think of any other shoe-ins that would be in the game.

Though, I got a prediction for banned characters! Y'know how BlazBlue had Unlimited versions of the cast that were OP/Broken on purpose?

- Super Saiyan Blue Goku & Vegeta
- Permanent Golden Frieza
- Super Perfect Cell

Some characters could just get a broken moveset, but some characters could have a noticeable change to them. Would be neat at least!
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>>381247786
>mfw with Burter + Jeice on your team you get a unique ultimate finisher animation with the two of them being bros
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>>381302823
Why the hell would you get rid of Sayian Saga villains. They both have really cool moves and it's not like Vegeta is going to represent the arc.
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What do you think other characters intros will be like?
>ultimate gohan
>fight you? No I came here to kill you
>mfw
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>>381303248
Nobody is going to represent the arc is the correct answer. I can almost guarantee it. This isn't going to be like classic dragon ball games where the entire story must be playable. I expect a lot of liberties being taken.
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>>381303092
>english version
Oh, never heard it before, not bad.
But I'd rather go with We Were Angels, makes me feel really nostalgic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5u5n5qsLSE

>>381303164
Gotenks definitely is a shoe in, and you're surprisingly forgetting Piccolo too.
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>>381303313
Gotenks is definitely going to be Goten and Trunks doing the fusion dance and after the initial flash of light from the fusion there will be a triumphant looking Gotenks standing there with his arms crossed and a shit eating grin on his face.
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>>381249119
>Chiaotzu
Poor guy wasn't even in Xenoverse.
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>>381303586
Dang. That's what I get for commenting at just about 1 in the morning. Got no excuse for that one. Piccolo for sure! Gotenks I hope gets in too.

But yeah. Piccolo. 100%. My bad. LOL
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>>381303656
Bet you anything he makes it into XV3 and is more fun to play than Tien because every character they've added since XV1 has been way more fun to play than the originals. Goku Black Rose, Bojack, and Hit feel so much better to play than most of the cast.
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>>381274469
I think I realized that my husbando was, is, and always shall be Frieza when I got super fucking hyped when they nominated him to replace Buu in the tournament of power.

After he's revived, Goku and Frieza exchanging sucker punches and smiling out of sheer hatred and respect for each other made me wet with excitement.
Then just to make me fall in love all over again, Frieza does shit like:
- Uses the signature finger laser but it can track multiple enemies now
- Does an attack straight outta Fist of the North Star where he just mercilessly explodes a dude because it's fun
- Straight up tanks an attack from OP god energy and takes control of it like its nothing and then immediately tries to kill goku with it.
- Bargains with another universe at the expense of his own

All of episode 94/95 was nothing but fun for me, even if it was pointless filler. The only thing I didn't like was that Frieza fell for the same shit he did on Namek where the attack came from the water
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>>381301820
They already have names, Lapis and Lazuli.
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>>381302342
There is no roster leak, not this early, don't be dumb.
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>>381247539
LOL AT ALL THE CASUALS THINKING THIS GAME WILL HAVE 30 CHARACTERS OR MORE BY ITS RELEASE!

SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU CASUAL CHUMPS!

This is an arkys game and considering this game is a 3v3 game, it will hvae 18-20 max for its first game and then Arkys will slowly add more over time like they have done with most of there past titles!

18 characters alone can give us 6 different team combos and that's a good start amount
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>>381302661
and just for the hell of it I'll include my match-ups for story mode

Goku/Piccolo vs Raditz
Piccolo/Krillin/Tenshinhan vs Nappa
Goku vs Nappa
Goku/Krillin vs Vegeta

Goku vs Ginyu
Krillin/Vegeta vs Ginyu (as Goku)
Krillin/Vegeta/Piccolo vs Frieza
Goku vs Frieza

Trunks vs Frieza
Trunks vs Goku
Vegeta/Trunks vs 17/18
Piccolo vs Imperfect Cell
Piccolo vs 17
Piccolo/17 vs Imperfect Cell
16 vs Imperfect Cell
Vegeta vs Perfect Cell
Trunks vs Perfect Cell
Goku vs Perfect Cell
Gohan vs Perfect Cell

Goku vs Vegeta
Vegeta vs Fat Buu
Goku vs Fat Buu
Gotenks vs Fat Buu
Gotenks/Piccolo vs Super Buu
Gohan vs Super Buu
Goku/Vegeta vs Super Buu
Vegito vs Super Buu
Goku/Vegeta vs Gohan/Piccolo/Gotenks (inside Buu)
Goku/Vegeta vs Buu (inside Buu)
Goku/Vegeta vs Kid Buu
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>>381304597
>18 characters
>6 different team combos
>good start amount

you fuckin serious m8?
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>>381268184
It doesn't count as "having characters" when you're practically pulling random people from the fucking backgrounds and giving them an ad hoc moveset. It's also a lot easier to do when everyone plays alike.
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>>381304597
20% complete = 6 characters
100% = 30 characters
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>>381248567
>>381268074
I'd expect a flat 20 plus DLC Broly and Bardock desu. I think there'll b more initial characters than the usual Arc Sys games because it's an adaptation.
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>>381305408
That's not how it works fucking dumbass.
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>>381305585
it is if everything is being developed at more or less the same rate
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>oh boy I can't wait to play as this one-off movie character who is definitely going to be in the game
>dude they HAVE to replicate my favorite scene from the show as a special character interaction, maybe even put it on a thumb drive and send it to me personally by air mail before release, I mean it just makes SO much sense

can't wait for this board to be a fucking sea of shitpost threads crying about how the game is terrible because it spent all the time they could have used to put in whatever arbitrary fanwank bullshit you wanted on making it an actually good game
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>>381275330
But what did?
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>>381305208
with 18 characters you have 816 combinations.
also mvc2 has less than 18 viable characters so as long as the characters in dbfz are balanced it should be fine
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>>381252920
Not to mention they have to hide their relationships because of waifuism.
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>>381247539
Every single character in every series movie and manga obviously
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>>381248309
>At least 30
If it does it's going to be padded out with like 5 Gokus and Vegetas at different forms like SSW 2 and Extreme Butoden was since it's following the same formula.
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>>381248309
>so it'll have at least 30 characters
Friendly reminder Extreme Butoden has 25 characters. 4 of them are different forms of Goku, 2 of them are different forms of Vegeta and 3 of them are forms of Gohan

They're trying to make a proper fighting balanced fighting game. Huge rosters only belong in games like Tenkaichi where there's like 3 or 4 character variations and they all have copy-pasted attacks.
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My roster of the top of my head

Goku/goku black
Vegeta
Gohan(teen/adult) dunno how id just make em the same character just two different models for the one slot
Picculo/king picculo
Krillin
Master roshi
Tien
Yamcha
Kid trunks/goten
Launch
Android 18/17
Kale/broly
Frieza/frost
Cell
Fat buu
Kid/super buu
Future trunks
Fused zamasu
Jiren
Beerus
Cabba
The blue wolf, cant remember his name
Whis
Hit

Dlc(round 1)

Monster carrot
Toppo
The ugly magical girl
cooler
Captain ginyu(organization or visior soldier)

Dlc (round 2)

Mr satan
Caulfia
Janeba
Dr gero
Android 16
Arale
I know much of this is wishful thinking but I really hope they get as much characters in and take full advantage of dlc and getting creative with characters
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>>381247976
It would be a first in a new fighter with new characters. DBZ has more than enough characters for 30 fighters. Plus Bamco is providing resources for it.
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>>381247539
About 20

SS Goku, can go blue
SS Vegeta, can go blue
SS2 kid Gohan
Freeza, can go gold
Perfect Cell
Fat Buu
Future Trunks
Gotenks
Piccolo
Android 18
Beerus
Kid Buu
Mystic Gohan
Krillin
Ginyu
Videl
Hit
Roshi
Bardock
Broly
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It's a 3v3 game so 21.
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>>381305723
Holy fucking shit, you know nothing about game developpement, right?
20% can also mean battle system, balance, stages, assets, story, modes,... AND characters.
You can be sure that they already have more than 6 playable characters right now and the roster is probably fixed.
Normally, you decide the size of your roster during the pre-prod, so if they want to go for 20 characters then your 20% means nothing because they will never exceed their target. Also, the E3 demo don't represent the current status of the developpement. You can't base the roster size with a shitty % of dev, you don't even know if this number is real, they are maybe at 60% already.
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>>381265089

Are you implying that Garlick Jr. wouldn't be a baller addition?
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>>381256898

Dragonball games print money.

Namco's name on something makes it print money.

Namco will be willing to pump as much cash as ASW's boi pussi can hold.
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>>381303164
I feel like Ginyu is definitively relevant enough to be considered a shoe-in. One of Frieza's attacks had Sorbet fire his energy ring which means a playable Ginyu using his subordinate's skills (Miracle Bomber, Crusher Ball, etc) in the same fashion doesn't seem too unreasonable.

It would also be criminal to have only one character represent the Namek Saga and even worse, have a game without the Ginyu force in it.[s
/spoiler]
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>>381262435
Couldn't they go above 25?

Didn't both SFV and T7 have more than 25 at ARCADE Launch?
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1. Goku
2. Gohan (Teen)
3. Vegeta
4. Perfect Cell
5. Innocent Buu
6. Final Form Freiza
7. Krillin
8. Piccolo
9. Shin
10. Pikkon
11. Super buu (can become kid buu)
12. Android 17
13. Broly
14. Janemba
15. Beerus
16. Hit
17. Zamasu
18. Gotenks
19. Captain Ginyu
20. Tien
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>>381308348
Look this: >>381298457
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>>381278643
>he didn't know that sayians respond a lot differently to that kind of anxiety

No, not the saiyajins. Just gohan.

And he's very aware of how all of the adult Zfighters act. Or, imperfect cell was. Perfect cell was a galloping retard.

Also, it was supposed to be Piccolo that died. Rando robot he's never seen before and only spoke too for 4 seconds was the concession.
He also wasn't going to kill Goku, just Piccolo.

Can you imagine the butthurt and sheer rage from the fanbase?
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>>381252228
those are 100% guaranted for me right now
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>>381249530
>>381270797
>no yamcha

Ya'll tryna catch this WOLF FANG FIST
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>>381275717
yamcha should be up in the practically guaranteed
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>>381247539
6
>>
I want Pui Pui for fuck's sake or at least General Blue
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>>381304597
>lol it's aksys
The latest BB has like 40 characters
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>>381310140
This is a first installment, not a franchise that started in 2008 with just 12 characters increasing the amount with each iteration.
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>>381310140
>>381310571
I think the smaller roster thing is true, with how the first version always have a small as shit roster, but with Bandai behind this and feeding them shit, I think it'll be a bit bigger then the smaller ones, not huge but still bigger then the first installment ones.
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24 initially, 12 heroes and 12 villains

then 2 DLC packs of 3 characters each for a total of 30
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>>381247786
Mein nigger.
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