Why is this game so hard? Holy shit, coming off of SFV this shit

>>381227497
Any fighter worth a damn is like a whole new world compared to SFV

Just give it some time and you'll get used to it, it really just plays like SF with a couple extra mechanics, it's not even that bad, and for most characters execution is actually easier since it predominantly uses cancels instead of links

>>381227615
Ive been playing Baiken, Answer, Raven and Sol and none of them feel quite right. I think I like Baiken the best, I feel like she just gets rushed down and dies quick.

>>381227816
I play Bison and Cammy in SFV, who'd you guys recommend?

Ok so like 2 means crouching right
c. means close
f. means far
j. is jump
what the fuck do 5, 6, and 3 mean
why can't they give these attacks simpler names

>>381228347
5 is neutral position (no movement input)
6 is forward
3 is down forward
look at your keyboard and the numbered part on the right, see arrows? thats the key notations

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>>381227497
>coming off of SFV
SFV is the most casual fightan on the market. Welcome to the real deal, son

>>381227497
Yes cause it is an actual fun and challenging fighter to play.

>>381229729
>most casual
>not NRS games

>>381227497
That's because SFV has lowered the bar considerably. GG is still a fighting game for fighting game fans. Just keep messing with characters until you find one that clicks with you

>>381230081
Yeah they truly are on par with ssb

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Who /modest t greed/ here?

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ENGAGE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L72i9qC7HCU

>>381227946
Look into May or Faust, those should be simple enough
Also Ky is pretty much Ryu with a sword

>>381231630
the only real BGM is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in6bP2KFmcE

who here /playing both tekken 7 and rev2/

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>>381231779
This is such a nice song and fuck anyone that says otherwise.

>>381232102
That'd be me.
I mained Bridget in XX,
Ky in -Sign-,
Elphelt in Revelator/2. Currently practicing unblockable setups.

Arisa in Tekken 7. Currently practicing EWGF, holy shit how do people do it so consistently?

>>381232290
It always throws me off when I get into a match and it starts to play

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Yo where my Axl niggas at?

How dead is this on PC?

>>381228347
Because its cleaner and simple to understand?

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May a cute. CUTE!

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>>381232686
>Axl

>>381232686
Hopefully nowhere. That fucker is so boring to play against.

>>381232936
You pretty much have to have a group or join the big Discord servers if you want reliable games. Luckily, those Discord servers are big and, well, you can very much get reliable games with people of varying skill levels. But do not buy this game if you want to grind ranked matches, because the fact is, nobody plays ranked.

>>381232936
In EU you pretty much always find games. Can't really speak for other regions.

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Anyone elses main get literally nothing but amazing buffs in Rev 2?
I'm so glad I stuck with this nigga

>>381230081
I'd actually argue that Injustass and MKX have far more depth and creativity than SFV.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OWKSy5j4lk
BIRDS FLY!
ACCORDING TO INSTINCT!

>>381234307
>le fishes for corner vortex combo every match for the entire match man

>>381234307
>he doesn't act like le edgy and wacky bird at all in the story
>rather a thoughtful immortal being
what is this disconnect

>>381234512
He's become numb to everything from being immortal.
Battle/pain is the only thing that still makes him feel shit.

>>381234512
I noticed that too.
I find it kind of weird that in-game Raven is an edgy masochist who seems to only enjoy fighting for the pain and has an edgy theme, meanwhile in-story Raven is probably the most level-headed of the entire cast with little to no polarizing emotions and no pants-on-head retarded overarching schemes like literally every single villain in GG has had. Hell in-story he's hardly a villain. Also in-story Raven's theme is Storyteller since he literally is one.

Just a really weird disconnect and I don't know why.

>>381232936
Not dead, i find lobbies every day in EU and dont go near the gay as fuck discords

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>>381234232
>mfw two giant meteors in one round

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>>381227497
Drop that garbage and pick up Melee.

There's this stiff feeling I can't get over in every arc game. Anyone else feel it?

>>381230081
Injustice 2 is harder and has more depth than SFV believe or not. That's how casual SFV is.

Although SFV feels better. To me NRS games have never felt right. They are always kinda clunky, laggy and the animations are stiff and weird. If it wasn't for that I'b be into their games.

>>381233976
>>381234050
>>381235037
Oki, thanks.
I might get it in a few days then. Kinda miss playing GG.

>>381235058
I honestly can't understand how people in this day and age can still watch professional Melee.

The game's been figured out and theory-crafted to the point where optimization is at it's humanly best it can possibly be. The only thing that realy decides fights anymore is either if one of the characters has some form of a hard-counter against the other or in the vast majority of cases where the two characters are on a leveled playing field then it's just who fucks up first.

>>381235323
I fucking loved MK9, for me what kills it is the gay stage hazard shit, and I hate how they split up everyones moves in MKX

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>>381227497
haha weee

>>381235451
I think it mainly comes down to the fact that it looks impressive, especially when compared to the casual level play most people are familiar with.

>>381227946
Sol is a good place to start if you like a fundamental rushdown game. If you want someone else you can look into Jam. But really you should just play who you like.

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is dust a universal overhead?

>>381235903
yes

>>381232303
When you're finishing the input (forward, down, down-forward), hold the down forward part when you press 2

>played Leo and Elphelt
What'd they do to best bro and girl?

>>381236708
Nerfed them both

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>>381235183
I can feel that stiff feeling alright gachiGASM

>>381236720
I miss when Sol was svelte instead of giga nigga buff

>>381236961
Good, they were both unga bunga garbage

>>381232686
Right here my nigga

Dude us not too but i love how he gives everyone a bad time.

>>381234232
I found the character to be a bit lackluster, what were the buffs?

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>>381236720
You will be missed Kusoru, I hope another player will inherit your spirit.

How's sin these days?

>>381237234
*Dude is not top tier

Its what i meant.

>Tfw all Arc System Works fighting games have unholy offensive gameplay
>Tfw I have to learn to block like a madman
GG makes SFV look like a baby's game. It's more like UMVC3.

>>381237342
2K links into 2H now, and you can cancel the uncharged version of his DP into charged DP kick for kick loops
They also made the input for his charge kick a little easier to do since it was kind of strict before.
No nerfs and the buffs are much more than I was expecting, Rev 2 was kind to Kum

>>381237508
still a fag enabler

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Why aren't you playing easy mode, Anon?
He's actually pretty fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDQyQtZbwqY

>>381236961
W-who do I play now?

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>>381237569
I too remember when GG had bs projectile-oki.

>>381237709
they barely got nerfed and Leo even got some buffs
You shouldn't play unga bunga characters anyway though

>>381237585
I might try thr character aha n then, thanks for thebheads up.


I tried playing potemkin for a month but that character is way to hard.

>>381234307
I find him so boring to play half the time and yet I keep coming back after trying the rest of the cast. He just has a little bit of everything. Range, mobility, setplay, projectiles at multiple angles, goofy animations, command grabs.

I feel guilty for playing him sometimes too because of his ease of use and linear/straightforward gameplan. But I guess if I can start winning I shouldn't complain. I'm still used to the even more braindead Rev1 Raven.

>>381238078
Holly shit my auto correct suvks.

Ill try the character again, thanks for the heads-up

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>>381238078
Kum is alright.

>>381238253
kum hahahahhaha

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Hey anon, want to hang out in the corner with me for a while?

>>381237709
Anon, even the lowest tier in XRD can shine if you put in work.

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>>381238178
He's not for everyone, and he's kinda hard to learn, but I love him
just look at this damage you can shit out
https://youtu.be/pLEBMBU5Kvs

>>381238062
What classifies as an unga bunga character?

>>381238253
I would honestly main Kum if there was a palette where the robot was semi-transparent and I could watch the little waifu piloting it inside

>>381238485
characters I can't beat

>>381238536
Thats pretty gay anon, if you don't love the robot you don't deserve Kum

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>>381238353
Sure, I have some tight set-ups I want to try with you there.

>>381237709
Elphelt still as she's still top tier. Or you can cry about how your unblockable setup now costs 25 meter and never play the game again

>>381235504
i feel like if they didnt split it all up there wouldnt be enough input commands to make it work.
to keep basic stuff universal, and specials not works well. if you tried to map sub zeros ice clone, his shield, and his hammer, how the hell would you do that on one character?

>>381238485
A character that has the same strategy every matchup, on hit or block. Usually has lots of + moves.

>>381227497
No Bridget No buy

How much cheaper do you think the REV 2 upgrade will be during the sale?

>>381227497
There's a reason these games are dead despite having good tutorial and single player

>>381238630
There are so many inputs available that it wouldn't be hard
you've got QCF QCB HCF HCB SPD DP charge moves, and all sorts of other shit
They could easily had all the moves on one character

>>381238485
Mindlessly simple inputs for mashing on repeat. Good for wrecking new players, but mostly unusable against competent players. Leo is the ultimate example of a braindead character

>>381238485
Low game knowledge requirement
You just run at people and press buttons like a gorilla, hence unga bunga
Obviously this is for low level play. At a certain point you will face good players who force you to learn to play properly.

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>>381237697
Nothing against Sin but I got bored playing him in Sign. Probably had fewer than 100 matches played with him, but in the end I just didn't enjoy playing him.

>>381238707
Hold on let me phone up ArcSys and ask them
when will you faggots stop asking dumb questions
>>381238776
You cant have a qcf and a hcf on the same button. also MK doesnt have quarter/half motions. Its just down forward etc

>>381238776
maybe i just havent played enough, but maybe they were trying to keep the skill ceiling from being overwhelming?
idk it promotes different playstyles by splitting it up, and on top of that, i feel like if they had everything on one some characters would be batshit OP

DBZ will be insanely easier, they're not gonna make it cancerous like this

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>>381234307
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh1onX6fBYQ

>>381234512
Pain is the only thing that gives him any sort of real sensation. He grew numb to everything else over untold centuries.

>>381239034
DBZ is being made for fighting game fans rather than DBZ fans. So I doubt it's going to be babby mode

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>>381238714
>be good at every conceivable thing you'd want in a fighter
>still not popular

What else can they possibly do?

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I need to get around to getting Rev2. I played the demo and Answer is the coolest.

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SHE WILL BE BACK IN THE NEXT UPDATE, RIGHT?

>>381227816
Play Slayer, man.

>>381239242
Drop the embarrassing anime aesthetics completely. No one wants the stigma that comes with playing these kinds of games.

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>I-No is known as the "sexy witch"
>least attractive female character in Xrd

uh GGfags? Explain?

>>381239242
Actually support their competitive community

>>381238418
>>381238253
This looks pretty cool, damn.

>>381239418
I think she's fine, but GG has too many best girls. It's not like BB where I can pinpoint 2 or 3 good ones amongst the ocean of shit.

Millia has the best ass though.

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>>381239418
What's it like being so WRONG?

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>>381239345
Next update will have ABA.

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>>381239345
>dude, how about to make her less broken from before, lets cut her mobility options and make it into an install
>okay, but how do we compensate for her lack of mobility outside of that?
>pic related

Fucking REEEEEEEEEEEE

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Are the Advanced combos in the dojo considered "hard"?
I'm new to fighting games and managed to get up to Baiken's last one and feel a little proud.

>>381239418
The only thing I like about I-no is her hair.

>>381239391
DBFZ will have the GG quality and visually appeal to normalfags that grew up on dragonball, so we'll see how that goes. If GG dropped its aesthetics it wouldn't be GG anymore. I would rather the game keep its niche and appeal than sell its soul for e-sports like SFV did.

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>>381239345
>>381239650
we pray for those that were left behind

>>381239452
How? Isn't that determined by people who pick it up? As far as support goes, I only know they have sunk some money on tourneys before.

How do i into Johnny?

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>want to play
>but only have shitty wireless connection since i moved

>>381239391
how insecure do you have to be lmao

>>381240024
learn mist cancels, stance dash treasure hunt, yrc instant zweihander, and memorize 5 Excel documents worth of character specific combo routes off of all of your confirms.

Honestly I like Johnny's execution and the feel of the character but that last thing is not for me. I hate all the memorization that goes with him.

>>381239969
The people who pick it up want and have tried to grow it but Arcsys is on some assbackwards mentality

https://twitter.com/2dJazz/status/871795521664552962

>>381238485
Easy to pick up and learn. Gameplay is relatively easy to execute while being relatively strong. So Raven, Leo, Ky, Sol and Elphelt are all commonly called unga characters.

>>381240103
>how insecure do you have to be to be against cuckolding lmao
>how insecure do you have to be to not watch degenerate tranny porn lmao
Nice argument, friendo.

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>>381239924

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>>381239418
I-No is best girl though.

>>381240319
You don't have to memorize THAT much unless you're really trying to min/max that extra 10 damage in a combo for specific characters

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How mad will Japan be when Zappa comes back?

>>381236998
Ok you got me. 2 kinds of stiff feelings.

>>381235183
It comes from Arksys characters having a shorter range than you'd think they might, which is doubly jarring when SFV characters tend to have much MORE range than their basic attack animations might suggest.

Keep playing, you'll get the gist of it. Guilty Gear is actually a lot easier to "feel" your way through because there's always a logic and more or less obvious follow-through to attacks. It's much more fun than SFV, in that way I think.

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>>381240334
I'm afraid I don't understand what MajinObama is doing? Giving more exposure to JP Gear content to me sounds like he's trying to show more people JP matchs or something, but aren't people doing that already? Or if he's trying to say Arc should sponsor people, well...I can imagine it's a money issue.

I'm gonna main ANSWER!!! Tell me if he's good

>>381240319
You don't need to remember that much for combo specific shit. Most of johnny is learning the first 3 things.

>>381227497
If you want to be ready for DBF, play Extreme Butoden, some UMvC3 and a little bit of Xrd Rev2. You don't need to be that good, it's not like DBF will require the same skill.

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>>381241151
He's good, but seems to be underappreciated. He's pretty new still, so maybe there just isn't as much figured out with his character yet. His neutral game has a ton of potential, if you can figure out the teleports well

>>381237569
>Tfw all Arc System Works fighting games have unholy offensive gameplay

Fun fact: You can build meter in GG by walking forward.
This whole game is built around rushdowns.

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>>watch GGRev2 movie
>>sees Ky curbstomp Sol
>>movie reveals that Ky has been holding back his strength all this time throughout the series.

wtf arcsys?

>>381241415
I used to main bedman when I played a few months ago just got back into the game today

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>>381241443
Sol is kill, Ky is main character now

>>381241443
Don't underestimate the frenchy. Especially when you dis his wife.

>>381239002
>You cant have a qcf and a hcf on the same button.
you can though

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>>381241631
>Sol calls his own daughter a monster.

But why though?

>>381241151
He's mid tier and struggles to get a knockdown

Found a local guy to teach me fightans but he only does SFV and hates pretty much all non-SF fighters, and especially hates anime fighters. I'm learning a lot but goddamn do I want to get into Guilty Gear.

>>381241921
Sol doesn't really treat Dizzy like a daughter even though he knows she's his.
Also he was provoking Ky.

>>381241921
Because he is a badguy.

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>>381233498
When i tried to get into GG i picked this character because
>cute pirate loli with a fucking anchor and dolphins
But i found her moves too hard to press out. so i closed the game and never looked back.

>>381242162
So just learn online. You can literally fucking netplay training mode with somebody in GG.

>>381241921
Sol's a bad parent

>>381242342
What are you talking about? He spoiled Sin with sugarwater.

>>381240454
it's actually a good argument, if you like any of these things and feel bad about it, you're insecure, that's the definition of insecurity, not being ok with yourself and the things you appreciate, even if they look stupid for other people.

in other words, quit being a spooked stormfag, nigger.

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>>381241443
Man, that was a badass scene.

>>381242162
You don't need him. He can sit and wallow in shit with the other SFV players. GG has a ton of resources in game and online to help you out.

>>381242276
>May
>Hard

lmao you can pick her up in a day you dumb shitter

I don't get how this is an "Anime fighter"

I mean sure, big boobs, twinkly eyes, magical girls, fine.

But it still has one of the most storied competitive histories of any fighter bar Street Fighter itself.
And it is vastly superior to SFV in literally every way.

Saying it's an "Anime Fighter" makes you think of some flouncy Compile Heart bullshit, and Guilty Gear certainly isn't that. It's so reductionist

>>381227497
>Comparing Footsie Fighter to GG
You've opened the pandora's box of FG, sonnie.
>>381241443
The writing in Xrd is laughably bad, especially the parts where Slayer, who has been trolling and serving humble pies to all of the GG cast for god knows how many entries jobs ingloriously to Bedman and gets cockblocked by Millia in the rematch.

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>goobers thought the death of sf5 meant everyone would play guilty gear
>everyone moved to tekken 7 instead
lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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>>381242416

>>381242768
GG is anime as shit dude

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>>381242767
Ouch anon, thats some harsh words. Do you mind telling me how sorry you are ? And maybe you could also give me a hug?

>>381238385
This is blatantly not true; stop spreading these lies about Potemkin.

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>>381227497
Welcome to GGXrd, here's the shorthand guide I used to introduce my SF friends to GG:

>Start with Sol or Ky, they don't have gimmicks that will confuse you or teach you bad habits

>Pressing two buttons (that don't include Dust) is your focus attack. It costs meter.

>Pressing three buttons (not including Dust) is your Roman Cancel which slows time down. Don't worry about the colors. They just denote whether it's raw or cancelling a move.

>Holding two buttons (not including Dust) while blocking is your Fortress Defense. This drains meter over time, but is used to not take chip damage.

>Burst is any attack button + Dust. This gets you out of combos, but is easily and heavily punished if baited or timed wrong. Use it sparingly.

>>381239002
>>381241719

>>381242768
anime fighter became a pseudonym for airdasher, but GG is anime as hell as well.

>>381242987
dude you could learn her in a day quit being lazy you bitch

>>381243040
>Who is FAB

>>381243082
>Ky
>not teach you bad habits

someone hasn't played in online lobbies

>>381242162
Ditch him. SFV is awful.

>>381241719
Name one game where the same button has a QCF and a HCF motion, none do it for usability issues

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How does my main deal with Axel? The matchup was already hard enough but the new changes to ghost make it so much harder. It's almost impossible to keep houses out for any meaningful amount of time and one of Axel's DPs is going let him destroy them all and set me back to square one. His range and strong AA game make moving the houses around and getting them behind harder then any character.

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>>381239924
>>381239345
>>381239650
I miss my main nigga

>>381243040
>pot
>low tier

lmao shitter

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>>381243542
Hey, Ky doesn't teach bad habits. It's the players fault if they keep spamming slow overheads and try to setup big dick lightning spears when they shouldn't.

>>381243606
Jack-O deserves the Axl match-up because she can absolutely devastate anyone in the game that relies on air aggression like May or Millia.

I don't think Jack-O mains realize how fucking annoying it is to play Tower Defense until all the bases are finally dead.

>>381243606
I was gonna say go watch JP videos but apparently there's not much footage of this matchup kek

>>381243596
fucking uniel hyde has qcf C for one super and hcf C for a different super. i hate it so much.

>>381243040
Potemkin is the scariest character in the game imo
Potemkin Buster is literally the best command grab in any fighting game ever

>>381243775
Are you not including character specials in "gimmicks that serve to confuse you"?

I played Sol and I fucking love him, his aggressive gameplay and rushdown moves are fun as shit. How is he in competitive, and what are some other fun rushdown characters to try out?

>>381243934
I legitimately forgot uniel was a thing

>>381237476
what?... did he died¡??

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>>381243606
idk but have a webm

>>381244170
He is literally one of the best characters in GGXrd. What he lacks in mix-up shit, he makes up for with gorilla strength. If you like him, you'll probably love Leo.

>>381231630
>>381231779
Does anyone have a link to the entire Xrd soundtrack? I need it.

>>381244453
But Sol has depth and adaptability. Leo is pure mindless unga for idiots

>>381239389
that's the wrong character the recommend if he's having trouble on defense.

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Post webms.

>>381244645
M-muh stances though

>>381244645
>Sol player
>calls others mindless unga

oh my sides

>>381227497
Yeah, SFV started out with a systematic assassination of charge characters. Also, M.Bison apparently lacks a psycho crusher now?

Lastly. 8 Frames

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>>381244170
Try Jam. Her pressure is literally puffball/IAD all day

>>381243926
I'm not going to disagree, I know she's an annoying salt generated but damn is it rewarding to to just corner loop with a full stack of level 3 ghost
>>381244398
>4D into the explosion
I don't think I've ever enjoyed hitting anything more in any other fighter.

>>381241151
He has pretty good pokes, but you can't capitalize on them most of the time unless spaced specifically. He can do super jump IAD loops on standing opponents that go straight into a scroll combo into oki, but the loops don't work on the entire cast. He has pretty safe pressure off of f.S>5H>46p that leaves him neutral enough to press a 5P/6P/2P follow-up if they don't instant block the string, so you have room to reset the pressure or go for a tick-throw. On that note his command grab is really sick, if you dash into the input it actually carries the momentum and you'll go straight to the corner. His 22p counter seems pretty good at first but it forces you to do a vertical divekick that can be blitzed and leaves you in the same position, sometimes you're plus enough to mash 5P afterwards. Most of the time you're going to be struggling for a knockdown and figuring out what to do for oki, also any other character that tends to dominate the mid-range like Axl or Venom are going to be your hardest match-ups.

My general impression of him is that he's one of those characters that takes more work than usual to get to situations that are in his favor, but he's fun and still new so I'm expecting people to discover more potential.

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>>381244717

>>381244006
>Potemkin is the scariest character in the game imo
I can't see it really.
Especially when GG actually had truly scary stuff like Eddie or Slayer's BBU in AC or Zappa in AC+R, Pot feels much weaker than he was in previous games, then again, many characters feels weaker than previous games.

>>381240961
What, SFV has the stubbiest normals of any Street Fighter game outside of Dhalsim.

>>381235451
nah, the game is still being pushed by people and I doubt anyone will reach a point where they can't refine any aspect of their game, and thanks to the new 20XX people can mess around even more within melee. KJH is a good example for this, he keeps finding new tech/tricks that I haven't seen used before like a sdi trick that gets you out of a once thought true combo.

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I play ed in sfv, who's the closest to him? Or who's has a pretty defensive playstyle

>>381242768
you can airdash

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>>381241151
Search for a guy on youtube called GodPress, he has some tech for him if you're interested.

>>381244717
webm related

>Delete Leo
>Remove Raven's pain meter gimmick and it's retarded stance.
>Remove Elphelt's Shotgun rushdown entirely.
>Have it so that if someone P's or K's Axl's stance attacks then it ends up with a clash instead of it saying "lul no fuck you take the damage anyway."
>Increase Sin's hunger usage for his specials everytime he uses one in a single combo.
>Remove Ground Viper's invincibility at the ground so it's not completely fucking safe.
>Increase Riot Stomp's combo potential by decreasing recovery frames or making it easier to YRC.
>Ky's D Spiels' hitbox doesn't sit there for 3 fucking years anymore.
>Get rid of May's entirely retarded ground-to-air combo potential because it's pants-on-head stupid to be hit with a random 2H or 6P and then suddenly lose at least 70% of my health bar into a knockdown because for some reason those moves launch me in the air.
>While we're at it, just decrease May's damage output altogether. Her 6H and H Dolphins are stupidly strong with their stun damage.
>Remove all of Jack-O's spells besides her self-destruct because it's legitimately broken that she essentially always has at least 4 more specials than anyone else in the game and one of them completely fucks certain characters out the ass.
>Remove Chipp's corner cross-up. The sheer idea that any character in an already rushdown heavy game can do cross-ups in the corner is actually retarded.
>Make command grabs counterable because a Potemkin YRC into Pot Buster at this time is almost unblockable which is stupid because that single move can easily end the match at any given moment.
>Decrease Zato's drill and Anti-air so it doesn't stretch from the ground to fucking Mars.
>Remove Baiken's counter Anti-air because first off, it's doesn't even need to be countered to be triggered and second off there is no reason that a single person should be "punished" that heavily off of what could be a single P or K too early.

There I fixxed Rev2.

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>When you realize you'll never git gud or even decent

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>>381245675
Or a zoning playstyle

>>381245826
As a Kum main I want to agree with you, but I also don't because then all of the people that got nerfed would pick up Kum and I'd have to deal with mirrors

>>381242768
>Sol
>Johnny
>Sin
>Venom
>May
>Jam
>story mode is a 5 hour anime
>not anime

>>381245826
There's a game for you its called Super Smash Brothers

>>381245520
You sound like you haven't even played Xrd, but yes Pot is actually great now, even with all the stuff they took away like vacuum 2s. Defense is the best it's ever been in GG, and pot can actually convert any air combo into a corner carry okizeme.

>>381245936
Faust, Axl, Venom, Dizzy.

Is it just me or does this game's ranked mode make no sense at all? You can literally do nothing but lose and still gain rank which defeats the entire purpose of trying to find games around your skill level.

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>>381242901
>>381243273
>>381246036

I think the guy is saying why Guilty Gear is an anime game when Street Fighter isn't.

Also, anyone remember when there was going to be a SFvsGG game?

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>>381244549
Sadly I don't have it uploaded here, but if anyone wants Guilty Gear Soundtracks here are some of my Dropbox links.
>GG1
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pzynb35qnruse5t/AADc6C1LSlDQwAHv-nd5WOqja?dl=0
>GGX Heavy Rock Arranges (just the GGX OST, they added the "Heavy Rock" title to it later)
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bzjez1ckj5z8b1k/AAAmy5axjEyqbh1eHIVxkGbLa?dl=0
>GG Isuka
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/994c3zsj5jpp5qh/AABK8M-KVYbohvM3YWPPuG5_a?dl=0
>GGX2 Japanese Vocals
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t87sqpcr7e20djd/AAAVMKjWWG-J7ak2rxe42C7Ja?dl=0
>What I could find of GG Judgement
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0x0fa947dwo1gaw/AACcq4VlU2b22ho50Qb8l-38a?dl=0
>GG #Reload Korean OST
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mqc0s8pfga54q1f/AAB6UsOPp7Y8gG8mBM-cMS36a?dl=0
>GG2: Overture
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/rzgabakut0sn3n3/AABgV7lNjj2s5A7blH7DdrK-a?dl=0
>Xrd Sign Vocal Tracks (I forget if Six Black Heavens Guns are in it)
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qvu8u8hyd81ltnz/AACvdkiz8g0WcGu3JVcsQoSJa?dl=0
>Xrd Revelator Vocal Tracks (this one is my own CD rip)
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/e32kcuof01fdwlj/AACkc0L4dYJmuJEi0iuPMnbxa?dl=0

>>381246817
You not got the rev 2 CD?

>>381245826
>Ground Viper's
It's Grand Viper, retard

>>381245826
>leo so hard to block you don't want him in at all
>I-no, Millia, Raven and chipp are all okay

the other 4 are way scarier than that gay lion

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>>381241443
The reveal wasn't that Sol is weaker than Ky, the reveal was that they both hold back for reasons that are important to them.
Sol has access to Dragon Install and 100% of his Gear power all the time, but it's also a one way transformation. DI doesn't run out because he isn't strong enough to use it long, but because DI is actually Sol holding himself between forms and there's a point where he has to either fully transform or cancel the transformation.
Ky was a solider in the Crusades at 15 and all his skills with a sword were meant for killing and nothing else. I actually really like this reveal because it offers some kind of explanation as to why Ky held so tightly to black and white morality when he was younger beyond "Catholicism lol". Considering how brutal the crusades were and how humanity was being hunted down to the point where even minors could serve in the military if they had the skill, I'd make sense for a young Ky to grip to moral binary so at least one thing in his life can be simple. Good people are good, bad people are bad. Don't think about it, just kill.

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>>381246927
Unfortunatley no. The best I could find were some YouTube recordings that ArcSys hasn't taken down yet.
>Break a Spell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qskLiG0a_0g
>N.S.F.W.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfqDeOfpZRo
>Dear Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRg33-x1CqY
>Rokumon (Baiken's theme)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUDVm69z2rQ
>Enough is Enough (Answer's theme)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOLKrd7594Y&t=63s
Those are going to have to hold for a while. I recommend using this converter/downloader
https://ytmp3.cc/

>>381227816
Don't use baiken gun too much

Your best tool to check opponent from rushing down is aerial tatami gaeshi and her normal. Also, use your guard cancel to check opponent rush down and button. After 1-2 guard, the opponent will get warry of your option and respect it. I'm not sure myself but I think the dash can armor one attack. I could be wrong

>>381246928
There are a lot of translation confusions from the PS2 days.

Grand Viper and Ground Viper
Riot Stamp and Riot Stomp
Greed Sever and Greed Saber
Faultless Defense and Fortress Defense

>>381247086
I-no doesn't have the damage output Leo has and quite frankly her tools are already limited as it is.

Millia's entire gimmick is that she's a goddess in the air but the second she comes down, and she will come down, she's pretty much mincemeat if she lands within a f.S in front of anyone.

I addressed Raven, his biggest flaw is the pain gimmick and the stance that comes with it because it basically makes his pressure and trades come to him for free if any real damage at all, he's honestly not that hard to block once you learn that every single Raven blockstring starts with one of two moves and always ends the same way.

I addressed Chipp. The dude's a glass canon and is fast so he deserves to be hard to block, the biggest problem with him is that he isn't hard to block, he's nigh impossible which we can fix by getting rid of his corner cross-up for starters.

Leo on the other hand isn't like any of these characters. His gimmick is to literally just be hard to read and hard to block and hard to just do anything against. He has stupid damage, a guts rating that quite frankly he does not deserve whatsoever, and on top of all that he has a fucking range attack that has high priority that is slow enough that he can do a ground cross-up with it AND an ungodly fucking AA.

Leo has no inherent weak points in his design. There's nothing he isn't at least modestly adequate in. He has an answer to almost everything in the game and the only cost to all of this is that he's relatively slow compared to other characters.

Leo isn't just broken balance-wise. He's a broken fucking character entirely. The only way to not make him annoyingly good is to change at least half of his moves so he doesn't have an answer for everything because there's no inherent weak point for Leo to work with or around.

>>381247980
Don't forget Gunframe from GGX Advanced Edition

>>381227497
>I wanted to play a game to get me ready for DBZ.
then play another 3v3 team fighter with assists like Skullgirls:2nd Encore or Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3

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>>381247980
>Ky "Kissk"
>not "Keese-Kay"

>>381247964
suzuran has unlimited high/mid autoguard for its duration

>>381248045
>I-no doesn't have the damage output leo does

She does 200 to 240 on most of the cast meterless leading into okizeme, has better okizeme and normals to boot. You can't tech her, you can't burst her. She's oppressive as fuck and Leo is literal kitten compared to her.

>Millia

Millia has some of the best normals in the game with the trade off being she sucks at converting, but only anything she can convert into knockdown she becomes hands down the best oki monster ever with 40+ mixups you have to block honestly because of meaty disc, and like i-no there's basically no safe burst spots except when she sets the disc.

>Raven

Ravens don't even use the pain mechanic anymore since specials on hit build it so removing the stance wouldn't change anything.

>Chipp

You can just blitz the cross up if you can't block it at all.

>Leo has no problems meme

Backdash and fd; His normals can't convert into shit unless it's a counter hit so stop mashing. Most characters can backdash outt of his okizeme and he has to hard call it. You need to slow down because you're probably just killing yourself trying to go in on him.

>Leo is broken

Oh man I'm glad you weren't for vanilla Rev Johnny, Xrd 1.10 Elphelt and Sin, or vanilla Xrd Ramethal then because all of those characters were way scarier than Leo literally ever was. Leo's strong but broken? Lmao get the fuck out of here

>>381249967
>Ravens don't even use the pain mechanic anymore
They never did, the raven changes were a buff which is fucked

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>>381245826
Saving this, because it's gospel.
Also, Ram could use a bit of tweaking

>>381238353
Only if you promise not to bring your friends

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http://www.strawpoll.me/13242299
I am curious to see who you are all maining.
Have you been loyal to your main since SIGN?
Since Accent Core?
since the original?

>>381250437
Ram could use deleting from the game, her combo's are too retarded to buff up any of her weaknesses. If Ram gets you you're getting juggled to the corner and put in a blender. They need to make her combo's shorter as it's really boring playing against her if you get hit. Even if it means they become easier to do and keep the damage I can't be bothered waiting so long before I can fight back. She's my least liked character to play against

>>381250516
my president chipp zanuff. I'm very bad with him but I need the speed.

>>381250516
I've been playing May since Xrd.

>>381250516
>Have you been loyal to your main since SIGN?
Kliff isn't in so I play Kum Haehyun

>>381239203
everybody that played DBZ in E3 has said that the game is super easy to pick up. I think it even has an auto combo.

>>381235504
Having 3 different movesets on one character is amazing you pleb

>>381238353
Why do they always forget Ramlethal's belly strap in fanart? REEEEEEEEEEE

>>381251420
Probably on baby mode, even Xrd has a stylish mode for novices

>>381251606
not only did they ruin Reptile's design but they split up all of his special moves

>>381251792
yeah, honestly it doesn't bother me if the game is baby mode to play like P4A. I only want a lot of characters that play differently since in the E3 demo, every character looked like it played the same and the combos looked extremely similar.

>>381250437
Make her swords great again.

>>381250516
I-no wasn't playable until X2 but after that faithfully hers.

>>381238824
>leo unsuable against competent players
People seriously can't believe this.

>>381245826
How can anyone have so many opinions this wrong and waste effort to post them anyway?

>>381242276
May is a weird character and some people recommend her for beginners but she's quite involved. It's ok if you don't get her, there are plenty of other people to play.

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>>381227497
What... you can't do this blindfolded?
What a sc.rub

>>381247871
rokumon is goat, answer's theme has one of the best hooks in a while.

dear song and another of the story songs/ballads was surprisingly good but don't remember which it was

>>381255150
brilliant billiards battler bullies braindead brute

>>381255150
the leo in this is one of the dumbest

Post Zinac being retarded. You know the one.

>>381255469
>intelligent Leo players

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>>381255150
Leo's are dumb haha

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>>381246817
I hope more Overture characters get in Xrd just for their themes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAHkQgWKsgo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H231LTJpt64
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3GFwJ4IwAQ

>>381255546
go away hotashi and stop wearing white socks

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>>381250516
Started with AC, but didn't get in the community till I played BB. I just played it by myself.

Also, surprised at the lack of Sol players in the poll.

>>381238253
So what's the deal with Kum, when I try his combos, I barely can connect with him.

>>381256307
links

>>381239345
Next update will be her best chance.

>>381227816
take this quiz
http://kalavinka.co.uk/GUILTY/

>>381256307
ground is all links; air combos are normal gatling

So how do you get into Ram? I want to play her her but I am not sure where to start.

>>381256538
She's still behind the obvious robo ky, maybe izuna, zappa, and maybe another new character like bedman's sister, gabriel, dr paradigm, asuka.

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>>381243647
He's dead.

>>381257110
You don't, you leave your waifu in the trash where she belongs

>>381245826
I know that feeling anon, everyone is unfair besides my own character.

>>381257110
Learn normals and what they're used for > learn combos > learn oki

>>381257110
https://drunkardshade.com/2017/05/16/guilty-bits-xrd-ramlethal/

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>>381257110
Ram is too much work for very little payoff. The one thing she excels in, corner traps, is something that most GG characters already do very well, while Ram's neutral is pitifully weak. Enjoy the lewd fanart and pick a less crippled character

>>381256442
>>381256994
Couldn't they say that in game. I thought he was broken.

>>381227497
getting good at difficult things is incredibly rewarding. keep at it op, don't give up.

>>381257195
All it takes for him to get back in is for someone to go "hey remember this dude?"
He's been in other games just because of flashbacks, they can do it again.

One of the characters is a little girl pirate that fights with dolphins and an anchor, its not like the game needs to make sense. Kliff can be playable without being alive in the story

>>381257834
It's pretty obvious by the timing and how much you have to delay. Watch the samples.

>>381257110
See:

>>381257661

Join the discord link, then poke your head in resources.

>>381257834
Kum and Slayer use SF style links, his air combos are a lot easier to do though

>>381257195
They can bring him back with Fausts resurrection.

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>>381227497
Jam-fag here. What should I focus on next to improve with her? I only recently finally mastered the inputs for all of her moves, and how to chain all her special kicks together, but I can't combo for shit (I can't even finish the "basic" combos in her dojo)

I'm really shitty at these kinds of games because I just don't seem to have what iit takes for the input speed, but i'd still like to improve where I can for now, and hopefully the inputs will come with time. Right now I get by with intense pressure with her command-dashes and hapyo shinshao and whatnot.

>>381258275
Practice your bnb in training until you can do it consistently then practice using them in online matches

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>>381258275
Do the big combos and be EVO champeen yeehaw

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>>381257195
He was dead in +R as well. If Arcsys really wanted to they could just unkill him like they did with Zato, but I'd honestly prefer it if they just brought characters back for gameplay reasons. They could just not have Kliff be in the story mode. That said, I'm convinced that if they ever bring Kliff back he's going to be one of the last, if not the last old character to return.

Thinking about picking up Rev2. So far I'm interested in: Jam, I-No, May, and Kum

>>381258432
I don't have a BnB, even the easiest ones I look up on youtube seem slightly too hard for me, but that's mostly because the language people use in this series for inputs is kind of confusing to me still.

I'm really atrocious at these games. I could probably string together some of her basics l>m>hs>special kicks or something though. I'm much better with game sense than I am any actual input. So I can block decently well and I know how to cross up a block, I just can't get anything off it because i can't do combos

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>>381257667
gitgud kid

>>381258275
practice every day
it doesn't have to be for very long, but set aside at least 15m for solid practice every day

even starting from zero you'll have it down in a few weeks if you're consistent

>can't buy Rev2 yet
>practicing against bots is annoying and not good for practice
>spend all day trying to git gud at baiken in practice mode since she was and will always be my favorite
one day I'll buy it to get stomped into git gud online

>>381258849
hmm, that's nice to hear. I do try to play every day but so far It's just been doing as many of her training room inputs/combos as I can, but which is helpful but a bit disheartening considering it doesn't feel like i'm getting much of anywhere. I usually play online with a friend every day too but he's a lot better than I am so I dont know if I'm learning too much from that.

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>>381258745
Anime fighter notation can be kind of daunting at first, but it's pretty intuitive once you spend some time with it. The numbers represent a direction on a numpad while the letters represent a button.
P= Punch
K= Kick
S= Slash
H= Heavy Slash
D= Dust

Sometimes the button will have a lower case letter next to it
c.= close (this is exclusively for your slash button)
j.= jumping
cr.= crouching

Not being good at combos is a way easier problem to address than not having good game sense. You simply do them over and over again in training. It might take a day or a week before you get the hang of it, but the actual hard part is being able to execute them under pressure.

>>381259056
Try to ask that friend to play long sets with you when they can. Even if they're much better you should still be improving by asking him what to do or going over match specific stuff. Don't try to go all out, like you should be working on a few tiny things every session so that you can be able to focus and improve. Like for a bunch of matches maybe work on just trying to anti air or something else specific. Ask your friend what you're doing wrong or can improve on and work on that. Watch a small selection of match videos of your character in the matchup, I'll get you started but you need to click on the player 2 to select a portrait of character specific: https://keeponrock.in/?char1=jam

You'll find out about what Jam players are good or not, here are some other resources:
https://drunkardshade.com/2017/05/21/guilty-bits-xrd-jam/
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17F30d6lW7IXFTgaFTR9Rb9DDC8fYCC9pzeNdrn3H3KY/edit (some stuff might be outdated)

The only way to get better is to go online, get exposed to more play styles, learn actual uses of your characters tools in application, and play more matches. It's intimidating but a little bit whenever you can really helps.

>>381259852
Forgot to mention, entering training without a purpose isn't a good way to practice. You should be trying to practice what you don't know or can't do instead of only doing things you already know. Really useful advice for anything you practice in life whether it be art, music, etc. If you're rusty on a combo, it's fine to work on it but it's easy to get stuck in the trap of doing the same dojo/training combos and not getting anywhere with it.

>>381243082
>Fortress Defense.
*Faultless Defense.

Otherwise good advice.

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How do my niggas have their stuff set up for stick? trying to find a good layout for GG on my 6 button stick

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>>381258745
Anything that leads to knockdown would be best for you at this stage. In fact, it sounds like you are just beginning, so combos should not be your main priority- spacing and neutral should be. I suggest looking at a series of youtube videos called Guilty Gear Crash Course by novriltataki or The Streetfighter's Guide to Guilty Gear by Theoryfighter if you're from SF.

To actually answer your dilemma, combo's have a certain rhythm to them and rarely do you have to input a thing fast or late. Take the webm for example: in the first combo, after the axe kick, the only thing that required timing was the one-inch-punch>upwards kick. Everything else was dialed or chained together (that is to say, you pressed a button and pressed another button to cancel the recovery of the last attack). How people learn combos is by doing it in parts, so if you have trouble with the one-inch-punch>kick, do that move only, or ignore it and substitute it with something else that leads to knockdown.

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Can I watch Revelator's story if I buy Rev2?

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>>381260650
type a with burst bound to the middle button

>>381244204
Because Uniel is basically the hipster of all anime fighters. It's a fighter you get good at because nobody else plays it, so when you get salty in one anime fighter, you switch it over to Uniel to "redeem" yourself.

I know this because I have a friend I body 19:1 in P4U, and every time, he practices for a week, then we get through three matches where I smash his stupid Chie, then he gets salty, calls it a trash game, and switches it to Uniel until we get bored.

>>381260650
I've got PKSHS on the top row with dust where your P is

>>381236909
Dammit I wanted to see some 6FRC6

>>381260650
Switch Punch and Kick and that's my layout. Five button layout is so fucking annoying.

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>>381259852
>>381260060
That's a good point. I'd say part of the issue is there's so much shit going on in GG that it's almost overwhelming and I dont know where to start, practice wise. I guess I should try to pick up a BnB but I don't even really get how roman cancels work yet.

thanks for the responses though it's actually a big help

>>381238589
slick

how come she doesn't get hit by the splosion? did she block?

>>381260650
>>381260783
type A or ur a sperg

>>381260650
I do this
P, K, S
HS, D, P+K+S

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>>381235323
NRS obvious doesn't hire people who know anything about martial arts to do the animations for the games, everything looks amateurish like it was a clumsy slapfight between children.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t06Dkdg6fEo

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>>381261382
Yep

>>381260761
Alright, I'll take a look at those/focus on that. I don't have much a backround in streetfighter, if anything I'd say I'm from MvC.

Thanks for the info.

Are there any bad Jam habits I should watch out for early? One of my biggest issue is charging her kicks up accidentally when It leave me vulnerable but this is mostly an input error.

How do I get into fighting games? Is this game a good place to start?

>>381261616
You start by playing
GG has probably the best tutorials and resources within the game to get you started.

>>381230081
>implying nrs makes fighting games

>>381261706
Cool I will try to pick it up in the sale then.

>>381260650
It's a 5 button game. Type A, no macros.

>>381261616
Pick up SFV and learn Ryu (look up youtube videos and shit)

>>381261706
GG is way too complicated for a beginner. Way too much shit to remember. The tutorial takes a full hour to get through, for Christ' sake.

I'm playing Dizzy. I feel like I'm starting to get a hang of the the character but everyone is still so much better than me. I'm going 0 wins 28 losses.

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>>381261572
I don't actually play Jam, but I do know that it annoys me when they play like a chimpanzee trying to mangle my character's face off (jump cancel, instant air-dash off your normals, using puffballs). Jams are good at that.

>>381262252
You don't need every single thing to start. A lot of things you can just gradually start incorporating.

>>381261616
Not at all, sorry but its true. GG has several mechanics (arguably too much) and a high skill floor. Even if you surmount those difficulties you will get pulverized online by people who have been playing this for years. Not to mention the neutral is complicated, basic things like anti-airs, hit confirms, meatys, and so forth are greatly expanded upon. I'm not saying you shouldn't play it but get ready to get real frustrated, hopefully you have people to stick with you on this game.

>>381262252
SFV is a fucking horrible "beginner" game. GG is just a good enough place as any because if you want to play it you might as well dive into it. All your time spent in SFV will be completely wasted and thrown in the trash if you try to carry that knowledge into any other game.

>>381262478
What's a good starting point then?

>>381262494
He should play IV or 3rd strike then, sorry man but street fighter is still perfect for a beginner to learn. GG isn't a total clusterfuck like BB or Persona, fundamentals still play a big role.

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>>381260650
I just use the default layout with the taunt button disabled so I don't hit it with my pinky finger

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>>381262252
That isn't the attitude you should be going into this. Fighting games are suppose to be approached with excitement about all the things you can do (for me anyways). You're suppose to take bits of the tutorial then play, and only come back when you hit a wall. Ignore all the complicated shit until then.

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>>381255150

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>>381243596
Tekken does, King has a throw on qcf.lp and another on FHcf.lp. while not exactly a hcf I keep fucking the half circle part up and keep throwing out the pildriver instead of the giant swing, But other people can throw giant swing out no problem and really fast

Someone make a lobby.

>niche garbage fighting game
>plebs trying to bandwagon it
>rereleases same fucking game for 40 dollars every 8 months

>>381262850
I'm already in a lobby and I'm getting my ass handed to me by every person in there.

>>381260783

I try to avoid binding two-button mechanics and just learn them as two-button. I want as much as my skill to be transferable to an actual arcade machine. I know it's unlikely; I'm probably still have an oldschool mentality.

is GG a good first 'real fighting game' if i'm coming from smash bros? want something more challenging and street fighter looks boring

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Where do you assholes play

Let's find each other in an east coast lobby or make a /v/ room

I wanna play with you guys

>>381262786
The "complicated shit" can't be ignored, its a core part and if you don't have mastery over it you're opponent will and they'll stomp you. You cannot succeed in GG on fundamentals alone, unless you're also playing with beginners.

>>381227497
MvC 2
that should help with your timing because im sure its way off

>>381262648
Ignore that guy, you can pick up the game and just focus on basics and fundamentals. Just because there's a lot of mechanics doesn't make them difficult to learn. The ingame tutorial for GG will get you very far.

>>381262687
What if I have played BlazBlue before but mostly sucked ass at it but occasionally won?

I miss the first game's lobby

>>381262494
>All your time spent in SFV will be completely wasted and thrown in the trash if you try to carry that knowledge into any other game.

Well that's not a ridiculous hyperbole. Yeah sure, SF has stubby normals and too many mixups etc etc etc so it's not going to be the PERFECT game to start with, but we're talking baseline beginner here. There's nothing wrong with picking a simple game with a large online base to start out rather then going off the depend with Third Strike or GG.

>>381262931
Absolutely. But if you want to get into fighter's seriously, Street Fighter has some great concepts built into it that are the foundation of pretty much all fighting games.

Get GG for sure, but I recommend looking up an article, I think the title was "Everything you need to know about fighting games is in a Ryu vs Ryu matchup" Or, that might just be the subject.

>>381262931
Smash has no execution unless we're talking high level melee autism. GG is pretty strict in that department but movement is similar, you can sprint, double jump and your momentum carries. I was a smashfag until P4A came out, then I moved to GG after that.

>>381262931
It has plenty of resources in game and a really good tutorial.

>>381263171
You're fine, the dude's a retard. BB and GG aren't completely unintelligible games for someone new to pick up.

>>381262786
Kind of a terrible approach honestly. If you're opponent knows the rules of the game and you don't then it's simply not a fair match, is it? And GG has way more rules than SFV

>>381227497
>Why is this game so hard? Holy shit, coming off of SFV this shit is like a whole new world. I wanted to play a game to get me ready for DBZ.

I had literally the opposite experience. It's probably how you played SFV.

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>>381263054
What? If you can't do that complicated shit, you're also a beginner and should play with other beginners.

>>381263234
>P4A
Why was it that of all games that made you switch? Christ I would have stuck with Smash if that was my intro to fighting games.