https://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/20 845159/rise-of-the-necro

>>381221212
Making a new class is a tremendous amount of work, the price isn't surprising at all.

woooo d3 is back baby

>>381221559
>tremendous amount of work
>already have a reference frame to work with (D2)
>abilities are mostly easily thought out

>>381221212
I was expecting $20, so whatevs.

>>381221212
they can go suck a dick
not buying it

>>381221212
Still no PC offline play?
Still no buy then.

>>381222857
You'd ahve ot be one hell of a retard tyo think design is the a big part of the work. It's obviously modeling, animating and creating the FXs

>>381223637
nah, its just millennial shits that think everything should be free

>>381221559
You know what's not surprising? The willingness of the average Blizzard fan to get fleeced non-stop.

>>381223789
You know what's not surprising? The average /v/irging being completely clueless about how video games are made.

Grow up retard.

>>381223732
Are you saying you're a Gen Z? Or do you just not know what millennial means?

if it gives me ros then I'll get it

>>381223894
>Grow up retard.

The fucking irony, the only ones tolerating this shit are too young to remember a time when the industry didn't nickel and dime you.

>>381224041
There's no irony, you've just said something really fucking retarded and completely clueless and got called on it. Move on.

>>381221212
You would have laughed about any price above 5 Money-units.

>>381223637
Yep. A lot of work.

That's why you should be paying $200 for the game. Instead of just animating one class, they animated 5, all the mobs, the enemies, NPCs, the bosses, etc.

>>381224041
Stop responding to it. You're just as bad.

>>381223894
wow good thing Blizzard have real fans like you, those poor marketing execs would have to post slightly lower profits maybe

>>381223789
>>381224041
What surprises me is that for Blizzard to do this, it means that D3 has enough players to sustain it to this day. There's a reason devs stop developing content/expansion packs after release. There's enough data from market analysts that not all your customer is going to buy it, it has tremendous diminishing returns so one or two expansion packs is the best you can milk out of a title within a limited time with very few exceptions. I guess that's part of the reason it's so expensive.

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>>381223910
I was born in 1978

>>381224401
I believe that a single class is a sizable amount of work. I do not believe that a single class is proportionally worth one quarter of the full game. That's utter nonsense.

>>381224563
The pipeline and the volume of sales expected are obviously completely different. Stop embarrassing yourself.

>>381221559
>tremendous amount of work
>it's just dot based gameplay

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>>381224732

>>381221212
Considering all the voice work and shit that went into it I'm not surprised. Not interested in it, but the price makes sense.

Blizzdrones are so cucked, I'm seeing comments like

>Well if it was free it wouldn't be worth it
>This is an excellent price, I thought it would be more
>Well it had to cost something

God damn man. Is the gaming industry really so fucked that people think $15 for a character is acceptable?

This doesn't fix the game in any way. Nothing new is being added and there's no exclusive content other than the character.

Oh well, it's your money. Enjoy it if you enjoy it I guess.

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>buy terraria for 10 bucks
>get free content for years, more than triple of what the game started out with
>buy d3 for 60
>ros is mandatory gameplay fix, 20 bucks
>new class, 15 bucks
>not complete jewery
>BUT D3 IS MUCH MORE COMPLEX
stop right there criminal scum. blizzard has a metric fuckton of coders, artists and money. for me, the consumer, there is no difference in labour time or complexity, only quality, content and price. D3 is 5 years old now, any new content that does not RADICALLY change the gameplay experience should be free or very fairly priced.

>>381223637
>>381221559
if you'd need to ask for 15$ per class then the base game alone would cost 75$, without considering how much it costs to make the enemies, npcs, maps, quests, items, bgms, soundeffects, etc

>>381225280
ASSFAGGOT characters cost $10. An extra $5 isn't that outrageous. I'm not going to buy it, but the pricing is about what I expected.

>reading the top comments on the blog post
>people think that you're broke if you think $15 for this is stupid

Modern gaming logic.

>You wouldn't pay $30 for this bowl of cow diarrhea? You must be broke.

>>381225348
>complex
They fix their mess of a gameplay by releasing items that control the way you can play.

>>381225348
Blizzard does have to pay those metric fuckton of coders and artists. It's not like they have money just sitting around, they're constantly trying to balance what they lose and what they make in an attempt to maintain success.
The seasons always bring new shit that doesn't cost money too. But it's a completely different ballgame as opposed to a character with cinematics and a full story campaign.

If it doesn't fix the game, I'm not interested. It gets so fucking boring after you get to Paragon 500 in a few days every season. It's the same routine.

>Play the most broken build so that you don't get stuck doing low tier GRs
>Farm death's breaths, yellows and use the cube to gear up
>Then farm and try to get slightly better versions of that gear?

I never minded farming Baal's throne room until I was blue in the face. Diablo 3's gearing process though is asinine boring. I'd gladly pay for another expansion if it fixed the game or added new things.

Two stash tabs, a crappy pixelated non-combat pet, a portrait and a scuffed version of the D2 Necro for $15? No thanks. The Necro at least on the PTR didn't feel or play like a Necro. It's hilariously bad.

>>381221212
Fuck them

>>381225370
>>381224817

>blizzcucks will defend this
kikkety kek

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>>381221212
No kidding.. Is it JUST the class or are they adding anything else?
>mfw paying 15$ for Grim Dawn expension, getting 2 new classes and a new continent to explore

>>381226145
If they defend $20 mounts in WoW, they'll defend this easily. The modern Blizzard demographic shifted to soccer moms and people who only have 1-2 hours a week to play games, so they can easily justify spending money on actual shit.

>>381221559
amazing, really
I can't tell if this post is serious or not, good job

>>381226186
B-b-but muh muh dev team size

>>381226186
Just the class. Everything else is a free update, just as the class should have been.
They're basically giving you the update, so you can play with others having the Necro, but not giving him to you until you pay their premium of 15€.

Anyone defending this can go fuck himself, honestly. A single characters costs almost as much as the whole game.

>>381226272
Go read the comments on the blog post. It's definitely real. It sounds like a giant shilling effort but these are Blizzard fans we're talking about. It's an honor and a privilege to give Blizzard money.

>>381223732
Apparently this old retard enjoys paying out the ass for everything even though games used to be far better quality in the past.

What kind of a world do we live in where the young want to save money while the old waste it on children's games and berate others for not doing the same/

>>381226186
We're not getting a new continent to explore. We are getting an entire Act IV though so lots of areas there.

>>381226272
What are you even doing on this board if you have absolutely no idea what kind of work goes into making video games

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So many people in this thread are like the embodiment of the "entitled gamer" meme. Whether or not 15$ for the Necro is worth it to you is obviously your call, but acting like Blizzard is a bunch of money hungry Vampires for asking for money for it is a load of shit. You guys clearly have no concept of what goes into making a game, and the continual support of said game (whether or not you think it is enough is another discussion).
The comparisons to PoE in that regard is completely off-base. PoE is not free. Maybe you don't spend any money on it, but someone is, and that someone is probably spending a whole fuckton more than just 15$. They have some serious revenue coming in and that means people are spending money on it. If no one spent money, you wouldn't be getting these huge content patches, and the game would wither and die.

>>381226186
Maybe some more powercreep.

The game adds gear as if it got expansions like wow.

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>>381225851
>It's not like they have money just sitting around
>In the first quarter of 2017, Activision Blizzard's net income amounted to 426 million U.S. dollars
Actually, they have exactly that. It wouldn't hurt to do something good for the people who shelled out 60 dollars for their shitty game because they believed in the franchise. Show that they have just a little of actual interest in making games that are worth playing and not just streaming/esports bait and PROFITPROFITPROFIT

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>>381221212
>everyone is defending it on the forums

>>381226759
Huge content updates for D3? Sounds like you have no idea what you're talking about.

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Anon's you're not seeing the bigger picture here, WE GET TO PLAY AS A FUCKING NECROMANCER! Forget about the moneys and think more of the skellymen

>>381226759
clearly, you've never visited hots's shop.

>>381226759
>acting like Blizzard is a bunch of money hungry Vampires for asking for money for it is a load of shit
LOL

Oh shut the fuck up. This the same company that charges $10 for a cosmetic helm in WoW, $20 mounts, $10 non-combat pets and virtual services that ranged from $15 to $60.

Blizzard next to EA is one of the greediest corporate fuck holes in the gaming industry. Don't sit there and try to defend this shit. Also, developers don't make excess money from shit like this. Why do people keep saying retarded shit like "BUT THE DEVS NEED PAID."

Developers are paid hourly or salaried, whether they're contracted or full time hires. They don't make annual revenue off the projects they work on, they're just code monkeys. Projects like this don't even get green lighting until budgeting is mapped out.

It's just so hilarious to watch people defend this and claim Blizzard isn't just money hungry assholes. After they merged with Activision, they went full money hungry. Their ASSFAGGOT, the card game, their FPS, their RTS and now their RPG game. Whether or not it's worth it depends but defending them like they aren't one of the greediest companies in existence is funny.

Does this have any extra content or it's just the character?

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>>381226397
I honestly those fuckers all die. I grew up with real Blizzard games, and what we have today is horrible compared to what they made with a studio 1/100th of the size.

I looked up the skills and it doesn't really look any different from the other classes. Maybe you'd buy this if you like the aesthetic but the D3 aesthetic sucks

>>381226969
Skeletons don't work the same as they did in D2. You don't get that many of them.

People who think they're going to be running around with 40+ minions will be sorely disappointed.

Honestly, a Garg Build Witch Doctor plays more like a Necromancer than whatever this thing they've made is. It's pretty bad to be honest.

It's a sad shell of what the Necro D2 was.

>>381227268
Just the character.

>>381226759
Blizzard has become a bloated mess of a company. They hire too many people, compensate by making too many games, and adjust their pricing based on their bloated budget.

>>381223789
Yeah man I just can't stop getting ripped off.

Got Diablo 3 for $60 in 2012
Reaper of Souls for $40 in 2014
And now Necro for $15 in 2017

Blizzard may milk money on some other games but not everyone is an impulsive idiot throwing their money at them. If anything Diablo has been content starved and getting almost no return for investment at this point. What did you guys want? Them to keep making free shit as they have for the past 3 years for free?

>>381225504
not a single moba has 10$ character

>>381226446
It might as well be. If you open the map you can pretty much see where the journey will be going.

>>381221559
how does league add 20 new heroes per year for free
how does overwatch or hots do it for free

>>381227510
ya uhm hunny bunches of oats, that's how capitalism works, mmkay?

>>381221559
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA FUCK OFF BLIZZDRONE

>>381227778
Wrong

>>381226759
>>381226476

>Y-you guys have no idea what goes into making a game!
>That's why you aren't giving money to a game that sucks!

The customer decides whether the product is worth the money. You don't have to be a mechanical engineer to judge the value of a car you're going to buy, and you'll never hear people going "but you don't know how much work goes into making that car!" if you don't like the price because it's a shit car.

You fucking juvenile morons need to shut the fuck up with your idiotic rambling until you've been alive for more than a decade and actually understand anything about the world or the value of money. You're continually embarrassing yourself and making everyone depressed at how powerfully, obnoxiously, and eagerly stupid you are.

>>381227525
That's what they want, and they'll bitch and whine our a 15 buck pittance when they don't get it.

Here's an idea boys, just don't spend the money.

>>381221559
>Poe
>Release 6 new chapters and much more
>Free

I still prefer diablo's smoother combat and PoE's gameplay feels lacking but hey, at least you won't get bored after a couple of hours of hunting for the exact same gear pieces you have been for the last million years.

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>>381227525
to be honest, I wanted then to fix the fucking game. But being competent is something really difficult for the Diablo 3 dev team.

Honestly, they should just give this one out for free for the utter disaster that Diablo 3's launch was. Do people honestly not remember Vanilla Diablo 3?

>Servers were down for days, no one could log in
>Nothing was tested beyond Act 1 and the rest of the game was broken
>Itemization made absolutely no sense
>They attempted to milk early profits with a real money auction house
>Some rare and elite packs were impossible to kill with bullshit affixes or brutal enrage timers that killed you instantly
>Non-stop rubber-banding and lag

Diablo 3 was one of the worst major title launches ever recorded. They were so behind in development and they knew it. They didn't even allow players to beta test an entire act. You got to the Skeleton King, killed him and a message said "thanks for beta testing."

The story of the game was so poorly put together and the map planning was fucking terrible.

If anything, Diablo 3 owes the people who waited for this piece of shit to be released. It's gotten better in terms of loot and itemization, but it doesn't fix the broken mess of what this game is. Fuck your stupid DLC content, work on Diablo 4 and charge $80 for it, I don't care. Nothing will fix or save this game. Charging more money for anything Diablo 3 related is an insult.

>>381227963
nope

I was really hyped for D3, dont know why i never even finished one run.
Is the game better now?

>>381227408
Instead of leading a skeleton army through a dark crypt, you're going to be spamming rainbow-colored abilities all over the screen so you can't see shit while you run through a rainbow-colored dungeon to get stupid looking gear for a boring, badly designed game.

TAKE MY MONEY NOW.

>game still really fucking boring to play
oh well

>>381221212
>>$14.99 USD

AHAHAHA holy shit. even 9.99 would be a ripoff. new blizzard is actually kike centra. can't wait to play a huge poe update in a month for free! blizzcucks btfo

>>381228118
Mate that was five years ago, and they reversed all the shitty AH design since then. Get over it, autismo.

>>381228225
>5 years later
>unpatched TL2 is STILL more fun than D3

>>381226887
You act as if they haven't been doing exactly that with Diablo. For who knows how long they have been steadily maintaining and releasing new things and improvements for the game for no extra cost.

>>381226361
A single character costs almost as much as the whole game? Have you people lost your minds?

Are you all so broke that $15 is a really steep asking price? In a world where the Xbox One X is coming soon for $500 and every game at $60?

All their other games get a steady return on investment, from cosmetics, subscriptions, crates, whatever. Diablo 3 is a game they sold forever ago and have NOT been making pretty much any money on anymore, just paying for. Now they ask for $15, probably the price of two meals in any fast food place and everyone flips out like they have no right to scam their costumer base like this. Jeez.

lol i forgot about the RMAH in d3... people actually defended it before launch rofl

This is fucking Todds fault. He's keeping Skyrim as soon to be Fallout 4 way beyond their time with rereleases and paid mods now other developers are hopping on that. Sure WoW is still kicking but that's because it's an mmo with several expansions but Diablo 3 has gone on too long for a $15 update!

>>381226361
I see nothing wrong with this.
They are basically giving you a free update, and buying the class is like a donation to support them.

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>>381226397
they would buy and eat all the shit Blizzard give to them is just normal, if someone makes a post in the forum complaining about the price in no matter of minutes it would be downvoted until is toxic.

Ok so every single company have been doing DLCs for the games for like ten years now.

So why isn't it ok when Blizzard does it?

Its not just the necromancer you know. It has bonus pet, wings, portraits, and other customizations. It a fucking pack.

>>381227525
>Giving Blizzard $115 for a shit game that isn't as good as the original made 21 years ago.
>Defending Blizzard charging more money for a class that should've been included in the initial game.

What do us guys want? How about an EXPANSION pack with 2 new classes and a new area+campaign like, oh I don't know, Lords of Destruction, for $20? Also on top of that, how about a much better game that isn't complete shit that people would actually love spending money on! Here's a big fucking secret, little child: if you have a great product, you can charge a little more for it and people will pay it! When your product isn't worth the money, people will complain about it and not buy it!

Morons like you defend this trash because you'll say "b-but game development costs more these days, so the price is fair!" You're fucking retards and you're enabling the industry to keep going this way by being weak beta faggots that don't understand value for money.

>content-starved
What a creative way to say they sold you a shitty game.

>>381226186
It's $15? Is there a news update with that info?

>>381228665
They should just offer the character then.

>>381225280
Meh, its worth it because it keeps people working and paid. Its easy for the faggots living at home unemployed to complain about spending money but actual people have jobs for companys that need to make a profit. Trust me its worth it to pay for most stuff.

>>381228000
Here's an idea shill, just make actually good games and don't tell me where to spend my own fucking money.

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>>381228764
>When your product isn't worth the money, people will complain about it and not buy it!

cmon man, you know this isn't true... also, no one with taste would buy D3 dlc anyways given how bad the game is. this is purely aimed at milking the autists and blizzdrones, although i'm doubtful that any of them have every played d2 so idk why they're going for "nostalgia" instead of just selling an overwatch hero or something

>>381228665
NOW THATS WHAT I CALL QUALITY CONTENT


meanwhile...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFAPw_F3jyg

>>381228341
15 for D3, 10 for the expansion. Not that anon.
And that was after 30 seconds in google, you can probably find it cheaper.

>>381225280
>Is the gaming industry really so fucked that people think $15 for a character is acceptable?
Yes, $15 is a really common price point for DLCs.

So is everyone just ignoring the other stuff besides Necromancer in the 15 dollar bundle on purpose? Since it's not just the new class, there's other things in it.

even capcom charges their characters with 5 bucks.

>>381228613
>It's okay when other companies do it

No one said that. Call me an old grumpy man but I miss when you could read about cheat codes in magazines and your game purchase came loaded with extra shit like a booklet, behind the scenes and a CD.

Starcraft 1 for example had a metric fuck ton of missions and content when the game was released.

Activision's version of Starcraft 2 was supposed to be the same way but they wouldn't let that fly. Instead, it was split up into three games for $60 a piece, they have DLC for it and at one point, Bobby Kotick even wanted to puts advertisements in-game.

DLC is cancer and it's hilarious to see people trying to justify it under the "devs need paid" guise. Do you honestly think DLC is going towards developers? Lol fuck no, it's filling the pockets of the executives that make mid to high six figures if not seven. Bobby Kotick alone earns $64 million annually in assets.

I'm hyped the release but it shouldn't be 15 bucks. More like 5 or 10 since there is no new gameplay content outside the class, like areas or endgame stuff. Apparently Challenge Rifts will be a thing but who gives a shit about that.

>>381229028
nice bait man, here's your (you)

>>381228118
This.

>>381228225
>It happened 5 years ago so it didn't happen
The launch still happened and the game is still shit. Please die.

>>381229041
Okay. Fuck off grumpy old man, the times have changed and reactionary bitching on Taiwainese rice farming boards isn't going to change jack shit.

It's amazing that everyone on here complains about (((them))) whenever they do something to make money unless it's the gaming industry. Then it's perfectly fine. I guess people on /v/ are selective on what's acceptable to spend their NEET bucks on.

>>381228764
Yeah. I gladly paid $60 for a game I enjoyed. Just like Diablo 2 cost $60. And guess how much Lords of Destruction was on release? $40 just like Reaper of Souls. RoS and the updates that came around then pretty much made Diablo 3 worth playing at all.

The thing is that you don't like Diablo 3 and preferred 2. Okay. But going "YOU ARE DEFENDING TRASH AND ENABLING THEM" like I'm giving them loads of money for terrible business practices is just silly.

Seems like you are the one who doesn't understand the value for money if you expect them to make full expansions and sell em for $20 these days, when they didn't even back then.

And when I say content-starved I mean they haven't been releasing new content for a while now because Diablo 3 probably makes them no real money anymore and it just makes sense to focus on their other 4 games that do monthly.

I get it. You didn't like Diablo 3. You probably didn't even play it long enough to come to this conclusion, I played it since release too and hated it compared to Diablo 2. But don't act like your opinion on the game should be the world's stance against it.

>>381221559

Please tell me you are joking....

Been playing the beta for months. It's literally a re-skin Witch Doctor with a bit of Crusader in it. The class is boring as fuck as it stands.

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>>381229147
>the game is still shit
So you're not gonna spend the 15 bucks anyway? Why are you ITT?

>>381228341
>For who knows how long they have been steadily maintaining and releasing new things and improvements for the game for no extra cost.
You mean the 5 year long slow hotfixing their shitty game and adding things that should have been there from the beginning? Sure am glad I got that for free yes
>Are you all so broke that $15 is a really steep asking price?
value does not equal price, you know that.

>>381229269
YOU SON OF A BITCH DELETE THIS POST
DON'T YOU DARE COMPARE DIABLO 2 TO DIABLO 3.

Diablo 2 in value was worth FAR MORE than the piece of shit we got labeled Diablo 3.

So is Diablo III one of the few games that has never been cracked?

>he doesn't bring blizzbux from his WoW AH trading

lmao - everything blizz makes is free for me, get a fucking brain

>>381221559
>Grim Dawn expansion made by a small team
>Same price but triple the content and TWO new classes

Yeah, no fuck off.

>>381227408

We don't know yet what kind of Legendaries they will get. Witch Doctor has a million different pet items and skills so we might see something similar to old-school D2 anyway. On my current WD I have around 30 pets or so.

>>381228979

The game already got its Fall of Oriath three years ago when RoS was released.

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>>381221212

>15 bucks

Whatever. Once I buy it, it will encourage me to play more.

>>381221559
Making a class that steals most of its abilities from the previous game takes a lot of work?

>>381229381
no one has ever bothered trying because that's like trying to "crack" pandora's box... it just makes the world a worse place because it's so shit

>>381229381

No. Because d3 is designed to be an online game.

>>381229406
>plays WoW
>tells others to get a brain

i'd rather not play any blizzard games these days

Eh. I paid for worse shit. Like the Nier Automata DLC. Now that was a fucking rip off.

>>381229336
>they set the price
>you pay it or you fucking don't

it's 15 bucks for a class and some cosmetic shit
the rest of the update, the actual new zones and content, is free when it patches next week

>>381229406
Yeah... i'm not re-subbing to WoW. Legion basically is Diablo 3 anyways. It got boring fast.

>>381229438
>The game already got its Fall of Oriath three years ago when RoS was released.

you mean the $40 expansion that added 1 class and 1 act and didn't fix any of the huge issues that inherently make d3 shit?

>>381226969

It's honestly not fun to play at all. I'd rather play D2 Necro tbqh. The new Necro is a watered down version of the old one with more Witch Doctor in it than Necro. I wish they had done a class that was radically different to what we currently have. Necro seems like the laziest choice. Druid would have made more sense.

>>381229747
didn't that have lewd costumes tho

>>381221212
>all these fake comments
How low they fell

>>381221212
>not D2
into the trash

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>>381221212
This was entirely predictable.
Have people fucking forgotten that Activision AKA Bobby Kotick acquired Blizzard ԅ(¯ิϖ ¯ิԅ)?

I feel like people actually fucking forgot that. It's not "Blizzard" it's "Activision Blizzard." That is their company name (◞‸◟;)

>>381229794
I agree. They're clearly trying to pander to these legions of necromancer nostalgiafags.

I dunno what is about that class that inspires such nostalgia. It wasn't even fun to play .You'd just watch monsters die and occasionally cast amp for corpse explosion.

>>381226905
>try to post a negative comment
"An error has occurred, please log out and back in"
>do that, type negative comment again
"An error has-"
Yeah, they're asshole

>>381229797

ONE lewd costume. A fucking jrpg has only ONE lewd dlc costume. What the fuck.

>>381229929
yeah ok that's not good enough

>>381229357

Not him but D2 has aged pretty poorly. It's not as responsive as new titles and the technical limitation of super-low resolution is setting its mark on the game. I think D3 is a good successor now with the expansions and the countless updates, but the story elements and narrative is still superior in the old games. Especially D1, holy fuck I miss the atmosphere of the first game so much.

>>381229768

It fixed a ton of things and added a ton of new endgame stuff like open world bounties, rifts, the mystic, Kadala and so on. It's a great expansion and pretty much mandatory.

>>381226887
>It wouldn't hurt to do something good for the people who shelled out 60 dollars for their shitty game
I don't think you understand how a business works. "Let's make less money because it's the right thing to do" is not a thought that crosses a business man's mind, nor should it. Their job is to make the highest amount of money possible.

If you don't like what they're doing as a consumer then spread the word to your friends and on the forums and encourage people not to buy it.

>>381229992
>I think D3 is a good successor now with the expansions and the countless updates

Please have someone remove your hands so you can no longer post things like this.

>>381230123

No I wont. What are you going to do about it?

>Diablo 3 expansion cost $40
>Necro DLC cost $15
>still can't walk with tab map open
>still can't view hp/resource numbers above their globes
>still have no charms to gamble all this useless gold on
>still have a shitty sidegraded socket system
>still no jewels
>still can't turn other players' ability effects transparent
>still can't have pets pick up crafting mats automatically
>still can't trade
>still can't play offline

>>381229269
The irony of people being upset at $15 for a new character is that adjusted for inflation, they paid $15 per new character in LoD, in addition to $25 for Act 5.

>>381226887
Wait, you didn't get your copy for free just for having a WoW subscription?

>>381229992
Spotted the minimum wage Blizzard sponsored forum poster.

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>>381227525

Don't be a retard. Most of us aren't complaining about the price tag. We are complaining about what we are getting for those $14.99. A half-baked Necro which is little more than WD reskin. Some shitty cosmetics that nobody cares about and extra bank space. How the fuck is this worth $14.99? If they released an entire new act + zone. I would have payed $30. Instead they are aiming at doing bite sized pieces of content for high prices. Hell, they couldn't even be arsed to make a new class or pick one that was radically different from what we have. They literally did the laziest thing possible.

I understand Diablo 3 is like a pet project at Blizzard. They don't care much about it since it's not a big money maker. I don't expect them to publish a lot of new content for a game that doesn't generate a lot of profit. I'd rather they just kept releasing large expansion like RoS and have use wait 3-6 years in between.

RoS was actually worth the money. It reinvigorated the franchise and saved D3 from the fucking mess that it was at launch.

>>381230257
ya whoops guess i'll just ignore runewords xD

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>>381228473
>a donation to support them

Yes with as little as $5 a day, you could feed 20 starving Blizzard developers as they slave away making works of art for you to enjoy while starving in their cardboard box houses and drinking from the gutters.

Do. you. retarded. niggers understand just how much money Blizzard made from WoW? Are you that fucking stupid? They have more money than any video game developer in the history of the world.

Base WoW - $40
Burning Crusade - $40
Wrath of Lich King - $40
Cataclysm - $40
Mists of Pandaria - $40
Warlords of Draenor - $40
Legion - $50
Total (if purchased at time of release) = $290

Sub fee - $15 a month. If you've been playing non-stop since release, that's 13 years which equals 156 months.

That's $2,340 in subscription fees alone if you played non-stop and didn't buy a single expansion. Let's just ballpark and just pick an average number of subscribers between the peak of 12 million and the 2015 report of 5.5 million and go with 8 million.

8 million x $2,340 = $18,720,000,000
That's 18 billion 700 million on subs alone, not counting expansions and all of the crazy extra shit you can buy at any time.

So please, tell me again why I need to donate anything to support little old Blizzard?
>???

>>381225504
League of Legends sells champions for 975 rp with 10$ being the lowest you can purchase rp at, though you get 1,380 it's still only a single character

I believe Heroes of the Storm follows a similar model, though I can't be sure with the 2.0 changes

desu I thought it would be $25 or more

>>381230257
It at least came with new content and items as well. It took 2 weeks for me to get bored of D3 + RoS, after campaign and getting a set in season it just became repetitive bullshit. Having a new character in a game you're already completely done with is retarded. At least a chapter and a game mode or two would have been nice. Challenge Rift is shit.

I can't tell who here is shit posting or if Blizzard started paying people to post this shit.

>>381230427
>just how much money Blizzard made from WoW?


Not that you are wrong but Blizzard has probably made double what WoW made in it's lifetime from retards that play Hearthstone and Overwatch. People dump thousands of dollars on those fucking shitty games.

>>381230373

But the problem is they cant. There are literally TWO people left managing Diablo 3. Thats how little Blizzard gives a shit about the franchise. This is why theyre hiring new people for D2 remaster.

>>381229630
>>381229761
>updating your garrison and listing items through the AH via your phone is "playing" the game

get a lot of these braindead retards lmao I haven't logged in in 6+ months

>>381230431

Meant for

>>381227778

the only thing i'm going to consider buying that has "diablo" in the title is going to have "remastered" at the end of it.

>>381224027
You wish.

>>381230670
>Diablo 3 Remastered
>Only $59.99

>>381230431
f2p game and a way to buy characters with in game currency

>>381227231
mad as fuck

>>381230643
>his is why theyre hiring new people for D2 remaster.

For what fucking reason....Jesus Christ. Just make new games. I'm so fucking tired of every goddamn developer making "remasters" or "remakes." It's one of the most cancerous trends in the community.

don't ask for a remaster of d2... broodwar's remaster is absolute shit, avoid at all costs

>>381230431
The difference is that the cash price is a premium, since you can buy it with in game time.

>>381230808
but muh d2 perfect waifu game forever and ever

>>381229170
If it gets utter retards like you to think twice before supporting shit business practices with mommy's money, yeah, it does a lot.

Dumbass.

>>381230862
D2 was perfect and LoD brought some nice changes but kinda ruined it

>>381230808

Because they have no interest in making a Diablo 4. This is just for an apology for people who hate diablo 3. Because its a safe bet and one they know that will turn in a profit.

>>381229901

>inb4 next WoW expansion introduces Necro

I can see it happening. They always hinted at hero classes they would introduce as DK, DH and Necro. They are so intellectually bankrupt that they would rehash this garbage on their other IPs.

I can either buy three (3) games during the steam sale or one (1) character from a game.
Really makes me think to reach a decision.

>>381229303
Because it's a thread DISCUSSING the new dlc and the OP himself was even laughing at it in disapproval?

How retarded are you, on a scale from
>retarded
to
>r
>e
>t
>a
>r
>d
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Oh god the blizzturd shills here are on full force

>>381221212
Why are you laughing? You know a lot of people are going to buy this.

>>381230423
Considering how busted the item system was before LoD, I considered the new items/uniques, jewels, etherials, charms, runes/runewords, new cube recipies, and 2nd weapon slot as a free update that would have been added to the base game.

Now that you bring it up, I guess Act 5 would have been $20 if sold separately, and the extra $5 would have gone to unlocking hirelings and and expanded stash.

My entire point is $15 for a character is essentially what they paid for each new character in LoD.

>>381230931
d2 is shit. nobody wants to fucking buy and spam 500 mana potions to level up except the remaining d2jsp autists. Everybody else is just trying to look cool and old. Quake threads all over again.
>>381230892
Selling products is not a shit business practice, even if you do not like the product nigger.

>>381230123
poe is way better than d3, poe is actually even better than d2, but too many people are casuals nowadays, not saying you have to play 10 hours a day but most people are full softcore braindead

>>381231093
.................... what?
>hey you know all of these structural updates that came only with your purchase of LOD? time to ignore those, as well as the second character to pretend it was only 1 new class. totally reasonable!

>>381230249
>still can't even see what's happening in the game

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>>381229757
>actually the value is even lower because most of the shit is free
top argument
>they set the price
>you pay it or you fucking don't
I won't, because the value is substantially lower than the price, which is what most people in this thread are rolling their eyes at. I like D3, I played it a lot last winter. Blizzard is asking for 15$, half their asking price for the full game, for one extra character. For me who's already experienced most of the game, it adds very little. For a newcomer it adds very little compared to the base game- imagine if you had to buy a meal and if you wanted to add 10% (generous to say that the necro constitutes that but whatever)-extra to it, you had to pay 150%, that's insane!

If you've got money to waste, sure whatever, do your thing. But if you have any sense of value, you know this is a terrible, horrible deal.

>>381231393

>what is Diablo 2 on Hell as Sorceress or Druid

Jesus.

>>381230427

"Entry-Level Video Game Programmer Salary. The average pay for an Entry-Level Video Game Programmer is $61,511 per year."

Number of employees at Blizzard in 2012: 4,700 (according to google, most recent it showed.)

Obviously they're not all going to be entry-level programmers, but bare with me here. If they make about 61k a year, for 4,700 people, that's $286.7 million. Throw in a random number like 5 years of hiring these people to work for you, you've got 1.4 billion in costs just from hiring a bunch of entry level employees.

They've made a ton of money, sure, but it costs a lot at the same time. At least they're worth continued support, Destiny 2 isn't even carrying over cosmetics.

>>381230123
>>381230341

>no different opinions allowed

As clockwork.

>>381230373

Yeah, I don't mind the new content but the pricetag is way too steep. It should have been 5 or 10, but not 15.

>>381230998

There are rumours a D4 is in the making.

>>381226397
I seriously am not able to understand fanboys, I try but I can't for the life of me figure them out. I like a lot of games, I even like some studios more than others, but the amount of defensiveness, delusion and worship some people direct at them is just baffeling. If they fuck up, if they act like greedy bastards you call them out, you are a customer, not it's mother.

>>381221212
>>$14.99 USD

Is this a problem or something else? I'm a poorfag and even I can afford it. Hell, with Blizzard going full retard with WoW Tokens and the capability to turn them into Blizzard store currency just makes it worse for Blizzard. Unless if Blizzard makes gold farming extremely difficult in WoW, they're literally giving away products for free, since the currency has no actual true or real value in real life, except in WoW.

>>381230427
Would you be OK with it, if they put all of the new content behind a $15 paywall?

>>381221212
Fuck Blizzard.

>>381231051
Go ahead. Buy whatever steam games you want. I'm not telling you to give me your money and spend it on this thing. I'm sure full games are worth more than a character for a game you don't even like anyways.

Then again, everyone is pretending the "Blizzdrones" are out in full force as if I'm asking anyone here to buy this DLC to save Blizzard or something. Congratulations on all of you wise people that have reached the conclusion that it's probably a better use for your money to buy entire good games on the upcoming steam sale than a character for a game none of you play or care for.

However, if you do play Diablo 3 and want something new, I don't think this is an expensive asking price. That's all.

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>>381231131
>d2 is shit
>selling overpriced products is not bad business

Why aren't you in school? Your 5th grade teacher is wondering where you are.

>>381231131
sounds like a halobabbie to me

>>381231872
not an argument

>>381231297
$15 per new character x2
$20 for Act 5
$5 for Hirelings and expanded stash
new items (and everything else I listed) free update to base game

This is what you paid for with LoD adjusted for inflation. I wasn't ignoring those other items/upgrades, I thought they were comparable to the free updates that D3 has been given.

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>>381221559

>>381231884
>behead all who insult d2

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>>381230808
>they can't be assed to do good games
>just need to give a facelift in the graphics.
>just need to remaster to make a fuckton of money since back in the days people used to care about their games.

>>381231820
I wouldn't be writing if I wasn't playing the game. Their new free content is cool of course but the pricing of the necromancer remains ridiculous.

I'm actually surprised it's not 30 bucks.

Considering how much money you pay for characters in other games like Marvel Heroes, not to mentiton cosmetics in PoE. Seriously, 10 bucks for like glowing foot prints?

>>381231478
Yeah not really, and even if, it's after you've already played through the entire game fucking twice.

I couldn't see shit in D3 after playing for 5 minutes with a buddy. Laughed and dropped that piece of hot nugame shit and never looked back. I've even asked streamers how they tell what's going on and they go "you really don't, you just know where to click and what the shit looks like." It's just loot gambling on top of lame gameplay and horrendous graphics/design choices from WoWOverwatch cutesy Blizzard.

Fucking brilliant game design.

>>381231995
more like your argument for why D2 is terrible is an awful argument because you're a muh graphics fag whose fingers can't even reach the F keys

>>381230113
>Their job is to make the highest amount of money possible.
>scalp your customers for shit based on previous brand goodwill
>no more goodwill
>customers leave
>no buys
>no money
Although normal business practices don't really apply to actiblizz because everyone is already hooked on their shit, oh well

>If you don't like what they're doing as a consumer then spread the word to your friends and on the forums and encourage people not to buy it.
I don't want to be rude, but what exactly do you think I'm doing right this instant?

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>>381221212
>mfw blizzcucks on full damage control

good thread OP.

>>381221212
To be fair 14 dollary doos isn't too bad.
I'd expect blizzard to jew their fanbase harder really.

Still that buys it is getting pretty cucked compared to the PoE players.

>>381231956
The thing is most people bought LoD for 20$

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>>381224894

>>381232215
not an argument

inb4 >bet you don't even take ur belt off when u buy pots for the 50th time

>>381231539
True, and they also have the obvious server costs, but they still have had to make a psychotic amount of money. I've never seen people plunk down money for any game than like they did for WoW. It was like actual crack addiction.

>>381232315

And guess what 20 bucks back in 2002 is no longer equal to 20 bucks today. Ever heard of inflation?

>>381221212
I find it interesting to say the least, that so many are upset. This is a business first and foremost. To charge $15 bucks for new content, with extra storage space, extra character slots, along with the fact they added new storylines (did you not watch anyone streaming the ptr for those that made the comment of no new storyline?); the addition of new zones and all the coding that was required to be sure it fit into the current game pack is totally beyond me. They charge for us to play how many hundreds of hours? Blizzard is a business. They do not pull from one game sales (like WoW), to make new content for Diablo. It has to be self sufficient, otherwise why keep adding new patches and content?

While it may not be up to snuff with other classes as of right now, have you taken into consideration they have 3 1/2 weeks till the new season starts, after its release date. They are not idiots and shame on some for thinking they are. They have time to make changes and put them out in new patches. It's been off the ptr for a week now, and I fully expect that they did make some changes already.

Some folks need to stop being so selfish. If its too much, why whine? Just don't buy it. Whining just makes you look cheap. That is ONE night out at the movie theater, not even with popcorn and a drink. ONE NIGHT of entertainment...and how many hours will you get out of playing necro?

Jokes on you. We the blizzdrones actually expected it to cost even more.

>>381232086
>not to mentiton cosmetics in PoE. Seriously, 10 bucks for like glowing foot prints?
>cosmetics
Entire game is free, there are already 4 acts and they are adding 6 (six) more for free.

>>381231751

You get a new class and assorted set and legendary items. It's not really worth 15 dollars from a consumer perspective.

>>381231820

>However, if you do play Diablo 3 and want something new, I don't think this is an expensive asking price. That's all.

If you rarely play games or is a huge fan of Diablo then I can agree, but as a person who buys a lot of games every year including DLC it's a very steep price. Naturally it costs to have artists make new effects and animations and so on, and from a business viewpoint maybe 15 dollars is the intended price, but I cannot agree with it as a conumer.

>>381232086

PoEs cash shop is horrendous. I can't imagine anyone even buying their armor sets considering they cost a total of 20 or 40 dollars. More stash space and the currency tab is understandable, but everything else just mindboggingly expensive.

>>381232086
>not to mentiton cosmetics in PoE. Seriously, 10 bucks for like glowing foot prints?
the cosmetics are expensive to make them more exclusive to the idiots that buy them with the money that funds development so they don't have to force people to pay for content expansions.

>>381231892
Yes it was.

>>381232423

Well guess what, this shit is also optional. No one is forcing you to buy the extra class.

>>381232315
And most people don't buy D3 at $60 and Reaper of Souls for $40 these days anymore. Someone on this very thread said it's about $25 for both.

Things get cheaper with time, yes.

since this is now general shitposting thread

>did that kojima fag get btfo after e3?

>>381232473
reminder that's it's ok when ggg does it

>>381232389

It'd only be like ~27$ today, not $40.

>>381232396
Because Blizzard are getting ever greedier.

>>381232364
>rares were godly
>no synergies meant you could focus on any skill
>no synergies meant you could mix and match any skill combinations

can't say that about LoD. Can only say that about Launch D3 until they patched legendaries to drop like candy

>>381232225
Why don't you want to be rude?
Do not understand.

>>381232482
selling overpriced products is actually really good business anon

>>381232560

No need. They have Overwatch for that. Bliz knows that there's no one left playing D3 and just slapped 15 bucks because thats how most DLCs for AAA games are.

>>381232483
>one is content blocked behind paywall
>another is cosmetic item with no effect on gameplay
Yeah, same shit.

I'm sure no one gives a shit but I think the extra 5 bucks is because what's left of the D3 dev team also has to add Necro specific cutscenes for campaign mode, well not like anyone doesnt skip that shit.

>>381232670
>no one left playing D3

Theres a few thousand people playing it. It's relatively cheap and mainstream.

>>381221212

the true cancer are people who complain about it but buy it anyway

>>381232389
You think the USD is worth half what it used to be worth in 2002? Are you fucking retarded

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>>381232746
say it with me

ITS OK WHEN

>>381232810
>few thousand
>mainstream

>>381232591

Sounds like D2 at launch. I was stuck with vanilla D2 for several years because I lived in the forest with no good access to internet. Then I bought LoD years after its released and the game was completely different from before, both from the expansion and the patches.

>>381232794

Nobody plays the campaign online anyway. I will do a run now because I want to see the new cutscenes and hear the new voiceacting, but after that I will go straight to freeplay.

>>381232746
>PoE's currency tab and minimum bank slots don't have an effect on gameplay.

>>381232874

They probably will. Same guys who complain about cowadooty but still bitch about it having black girls anyway.

>>381232916
>extra stash
literally no gameplay impact

>>381232995
yeah what was it Chris' excuse was...

"It's not pay2win because it's just convenience! Accounts are free so users can just register mules if they don't want stash tabs!"

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>>381232916

D-DELET THISSS

>>381232931
LoD added some nice QoL things like bigger stash and crafting but the gear direction towards sets, uniques and runewords in LoD and the same in D3 really hurt the series. When you consider rares could have so much potential and they just throw that away it really burns my britches

>>381229901
to be fair, it is the only necromancer that was worth playing, no other game comes close to allowing you the pure joy of summoning legions of undead

only thing close to the feel of d2 necro is maybe guild wars, but that is apple and bananas

>>381232995
So you'd say an act in which you have to quit your current session in order to send some items to your mule character so you can free up some space is not something that's affecting gameplay at all?

>>381233103
stop posting yuuka

>>381233247
>the pure joy of watching ai controlled units play the game for you (that is when they're not getting stuck on geometry)

You won't make me understand ever. Here we have a genre that's about grinding your character to ultra powerful levels, and fags want to look at skeletons?

>>381232916
>>381232976
There are 4 tabs already which is more than enough unless you are a hoarding nigger. You are not missing anything if you don't buy them.

>>381221212
No thanks, I'm gonna spend that money on the new Grim Dawn DLC when it drops

>>381223637
/agdg/ here, making assets is the least time intensive for me, design and testing the most time intensive.
Also you have to consider 3-4 people are designing, while 200 are making assets, and you can outsource making assets even.
And a lot of stuff - skeletons, animations, particle effects, are already there. This is effectively modding the game, not developing a new game.

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>>381233452
>play loot game with trading
>not being hoarding nigger

>>381231662
what would be the point in making a d4? to continue fucking it up? let diablo die with dignity already, d3 was insult enough

whoa grim dawn and poe got btfo'd hard hahahah

>>381232995
It honestly sounds like you haven't played the PoE endgame. Playing with the base amount of bank tabs will affect what vendor recipies you can go for, what items you pick up and save, even what currency you hold on to.

>>381233157

Yeah, I know what you mean. In D3 they gave use to items of less quality with the addition of crafting, but rares are pretty much considered normal drops and are usually trash unless you're levelling to 70. Legendaries and set items are a great addition in D3 however. The passive abilities they have change the gameplay entirely.

Wether they should be as plentiful as they are now is debatable, but D3 is currently aimed towards the casual player and as someone who has less and less time with videogames I kind of support their decision.

>>381233354

It's more about the feeling that you've become so powerful you have a bunch of niggas who can do the work for you while you're tossing curses and shit at monsters.

>>381233101
>>381232995

A better phrasing would be that it has no impact on competitive gameplay. A person with a extra tab will not have any advantage in combat, just some more stuff to store items in case that person needs it, and the default stash is more than enough unless you're a hoarder.

> endgame is pure shit
> game will be fun if I play with this new class!

>>381221212
>HAHAHAHA $15 IS SO MUCH I'M SO POOR IT HURTS

I think I can sacrifice a meal for a hundred hours of dicking around with Necro

>>381233354

Yes. I reckon, most people who liked the Necro also enjoyed RTS and M&B Warband, as we find joy in watching our troops destroying our enemies. With Necro you could play like a fucking dark overlord commanding his own army of undead.

>>381233841
>no impact on competitive gameplay.
This is incorrect. In any league lasting more than 24 hours, players with stash tabs have a sizable advantage. Especially premium ones.

>>381233978
>commanding
No. You'd just kinda run into monsters hoping to get the skeletons to engage. If you were really smart you'd get a source of teleport.

I don't see it.

>>381234012
What advantage? Being able to save 10 more useless Uniques that you are not going to use or sell?

>>381233841
>A better phrasing would be that it has no impact on competitive gameplay

Do you really think that the ability to trade with other players has no effect on competitive gameplay?

>>381233853

Grifts are fun, but yeah D3 needs a new endgame outside of it. The Labyrinth in PoE is a great example of challenging players and rewarding them properly, and I'm really sad to see there's no equivalent coming in the update.

>>381233978

>Yes. I reckon, most people who liked the Necro also enjoyed RTS and M&B Warband, as we find joy in watching our troops destroying our enemies.

That sounds exactly like me. Back in ye olden days I played primarily FPS but now I almost only play management games and city builders.

Like what the fuck happened.

>>381221212
stop being poor

>>381234134

That was still how I felt back then though. The only other game that let feel like a dark master was Warlords of Battlecry 2 and that shit was an RTS/RPG hybrid.

>>381233956
You can eat at least for three days if you have fifteen bucks.

>>381234238
Yes, exactly that. Also chaos recipe, essences, divination cards, all that bloaty shit they're adding to the game to get you to buy the damn tabs.

>>381225280
>Nothing new is being added and there's no exclusive content other than the character.
This is exactly why I dont understand this. I dont know how people arent burnt the fuck out on D3 by now. Even though the playstyle will be somewhat different, youre still going to be playing the exact same content with the necromancer.

They really should have went the extra mile and added a whole extra chapter, and charged us $40.

$15 for a single character to play nothing but years old content with just shows how cancerous the gaming industry is getting

I want everyone ITT who are praising blizzard for finally bringing the necro to d3 to know that Heroes of the storm got the d2 necro way earlier than he was even announced for d3 and the devs were repeatedly saying they had no plans for a necromancer for d3 as the witch doctor had filled in their "summoning evil guys" hero.

>>381234409

They couldn't even if they did. There's only a few handful of people, mostly maintenance guys and some coders, left in the D3 team.

>>381224732
>"A minority of demographers and researchers start the generation in the mid-to-late 1970s, such as Synchrony Financial which describes Millennials as starting as early as 1976,[22][23] Mobilize.org which uses 1976–1996,[24] MetLife which uses birth dates ranging from 1977–1994,[25] and Nielsen Media Research which uses 1977–1995.[26][27]"

You're a millenial, mate.

>>381234012

Then I stand corrected. I have played PoE for around 120 hours and didn't find any need for more stash space.

>>381234289

I'm not sure what you mean, trading is something everyone can do?

>>381234460

I'm not. I'm just happy I get to play as goth chick.

D3 related question.

How fucking low is the drop rate for Ancients? I'm playing in T6 and not once have I ever seen one of these things.

>>381234368

>Warlords of Battlecry 2

>dat voiceacting
>dat hammy artstyle
>dem fucking awful 3d models

It's still a 10/10 game. I mean, goddamn, it had charm and it's more than playable today.

>>381234552
check out poe.trade

it's an indexer that searches for items in premium stash tabs that are flagged as "for sale"

you can't do this with normal tabs. needless to say it saves a lot of time.

>>381234584
I bet you also dress like one.

>>381234370
never said you couldn't. For me however, I would be sacrificing a meal for the price of this character. I think I'll live with giving up one decent meal.

>>381234669

>JOIN MY LEGIIOOONNN

>>381234639

They're pretty low. If you do grifts you could get one every fifth run maybe since they drop legendaries and set items like candy, especially once you go above T10. It's not even funny how many items you get once you start doing grifts, it makes everything else in the game not worth doing outside of achievments.

>>381221212
>buy new console for hundreds of dollars
>buy $60 garbage
>can buy dozens of older games that are far better for price of one of those games
If you own an Xbox One, Switch, or PS4, I don't think you're in any position to claim that something is a waste of money

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>Announce class that they pretty much replaced due to "demand" to a game on its last legs
>Delay release by about a year
>have the balls to slap 15 dollar price tag on it

Either they're just fucking with people at this point or just making a statement about their consumer base.

>>381231751
Are you mentally handicapped? In order to buy a WoW token that gets you $15, someone else had to buy the WoW token for $20. They're literally making free money just from flipping their own tokens.

When i caould pirate d3 already?

>>381234698
imo this is the only remotely p2w part of POE it makes a HUGE fucking difference to just set a price in the tab and have people whisper you in a few seconds/minutes, other than that im fine with regular tabs and all the other shit. IF YOU PLAN TO PLAY POE JUST BUT THE PREMIUM STASH TAB

>>381234698
It is more than just a time saver. You wouldn't be able to sell 99% of the items you can sell on poe.trade, if you tried to use in game trading. It is the difference between playing solo self found and actually having all the items you need for a build. In other words, having a premium tab has a massive effect on gameplay.

>>381234639
>T6
That's your problem. Around T13 you start getting a full inventory of legend drops every other run or so. At that point, you'll be getting an ancient around every 3-4 runs.

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>Be betafag
>Expecting another patch this week
>Abruptly get told beta is over last night
>Already announcing their marketing pack for it
HA HA HA HA
Oh boy...they think they're all set for primetime, huh?

To the Blizzcucks actually hype, enjoy not being able to clear GR75s with best-in-slot gear using the only viable build: Hurricane Druid.

It is a mystery why they gave necro hurricane and also made it the best spell, but I advise you to save your money and level a sweeping wind monk instead. Probably can clear higher rift levels too.

What a fucking disaster.

>>381234371
>chaos recipe
Nobody bothers to collect items for that because it's fucking raining chaos orbs in maps.
>essences
I keep them in the same stash as currency.
>divination cards
One tab for that shit. In fact, you dont even need a tab for it because the majority of cards are useless and not worth keeping.
>bloaty shit they're adding to the game
Legacy stones are the only bloaty shit that they have fucked up, but guess what, that's not going to stay in the game.
It seems like you have played a different game or you are a cherry picking faggot. You just can't admit that a free indie game is much better and has more content than $115 disaster.

>>381226905
Blizzard could beat those retards to near death and they would still be thanking them.

Too expensive and late

>Not wating for Grim Dawn's necromancer
You only have youself to blame if you waste your money in blizzard products.

>>381235082
Did everyone just forget that RoS was $40 on release for one act and a character?

>>381234134
then that is your problem, not mine. you are not forced to like necros. but just understand that good necromancer gameplay examples are few and far in-between.

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So they're saying one character is worth a quarter of the actual game's value? That is fucking ridiculous.

>>381235551

I would play GD if it wasn't running on the same fucking engine as Titan Quest.

>>381234535
>First it was people born after 90
>Then it was people born after 80
>Not it is people born after 75

>>381235623

It added a lot more than that, anon.

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Who are you lying to.

All of you would buy this shit.

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All the poor bitter loser ITT
>mfw you are all poor
$15 is nothing if you have a job you retards

>>381221559
>Mfw hots, made by the same company, releases gorillion heroes with multiple talents including negro for FREE while diablo team barely manages to fart out shitty meme necro for 15 dollers
Cant even manage to pick a picture, im laffing too much

>>381227079
>hots's
Also
>complaining about purely cosmetic items

I want to replay this. probably because I enjoy misery.

haven't played since before they removed the RMAU, though.

what's the fastest way to level characters? and which one should I pick?

>>381236065
I have a job. And earning money is not a valid reason to throw money for shit.

>>381234535
>>381235762
the consensus is 1990 to mid 2000.

After playing it on the beta, they clearly can put their necro up in the ass.
That shit isn't even close to Diablo 2. Just some nostalgia vibes to get all the fans.

>>381236065
It's a matter of principle, probably something you've never heard of.

>>381236249
>The majority of researchers and demographers start the generation in the early 1980s

How long until we get another expansion that adds the charm bag and skulls + jewels?

>>381236065
>I don't value my money, therefor you shouldn't either

>>381236160
>haven't played since before they removed the RMAU, though.

Then get RoS. It's mandatory. Odds are you're not going to recognise the game at all.

>what's the fastest way to level characters? and which one should I pick?

The fast way to is to start a Tormet 10 game and let a nigger join you to smash all enemies, but if you don't have a friendly nigger then slotting rubies into weapons will boost their damage something fierce, letting you increase difficulty. This in turn will give you a massive boost in XP, and it will take you a few hours at most to get to 70.

As for characters you can pick whatever you want. They're all balanced now so anything will work, including WD pet builds.

>>381236065
> it's not expensive so buy it

Feels good to have mom's card, isn't it?

>>381228003
>other companies undervalue their product so other companies should as well
or
>know the only redeeming quality of their game is its F2P
No game company is your friend anon, all of them want to make money, you just confuse good business decisions with benevolence

>>381236504

Jewels are already in the game and have been for a while.

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>>381235762

"Millenial" is a marketing buzzword, they keep lowering the barrier, i remember when this book talked how "millenials" are born after 2001 now is 1980 and older.

>>381236528
Also rubies in helm especially combined with Leoric's helm and the lvl23 Cain set all add a good amount of increased exp

>>381236065
I value my money more than you value yours.
I'm not wasting it on this shit.

>>381236618
why the fuck u lyin lmao unless you are trying to say legendary gems are jewels, which they arent even fuckin close

>>381221559
Fucking kill yourself Actiblizz cumslurper, Diablo 3 has been on life-support skeleton crew status for years.

>>381236065
Even if i had won the lottery i wouldnt be bying this shit, id rather pay 15$ for two hobos to fight eachother while dressed as necromancers.

> New Blizzard DLC with 1 hero for 14.99
> Victor Vran on sales for 4.99 on Steam

Yeah nah. Fuck you blizz.

>>381236453
The majority of researchers and demographers are a bunch of retards. Millenial means someone that lived his/her childhood in the new millenium. Someone born in 76 was already 24 when 2k came.

Fuck, even somone born in 85 was almost an adult when the new millenium came.

>>381236635
Except the first definition used the year 1982

>>381236528
I thought T6 was the max a non-max lvl character could join or create.

>>381230647
reevaluate your life

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>>381221212

>diablo 2 addons cost 40$ each

>complains about 15 $

You niggers really cry about everything.

>>381236546
>If you have jobs.
>OMG U BABY U USE MOM MONEY.

What's wrong, your mommy doesn't want to give you money and you need to project that much?

>>381236971
right, and I guess the people that created the term in the first place (they used the year 1982 as the starting point) are retards too and don't know the meaning of the word they created. It couldn't possibly be that you heard the term used incorrectly and have just been wrong the whole time.

So what makes D3 necro so different from D2?

>>381237148
What are you talking about you fucking retard

>>381237310
they are literally nothing alike

>>381236453
because they're getting tunnel vision. the advent of the internet blurred the line.

but it definitely starts with the '90s, last couple of years of the '80s at the earliest.

>>381237069

I haven't boosted or been boosted by anyone in years, I don't know if they've changed this or not. Either way, playing on T6 is going to get you to 70 in no time at all.

>>381221212
>D3 Necro releases this month
Wait, it didnt release yet? Didnt they announce it like, 1 or 2 years ago? How long does it take to make a fucking character?

>>381237180
If you can't value your own money it's basically because you are an underage fuck.

>>381237310

For all intents and purposes they are roughly the same.

>>381237148
LoD added two new characters and an entire expansion of content you stupid fuck.

They would have to pay me $14.99 USD to get me to go back to their shitty game.

>>381237180
> if i use CAPSLOCK i will make a point lol
> if i use the projection example i will make a point lol

I'm not surprised you will actually buy this crap DLC.
That being said, I'm selling a used condom, do you want it? It's just $14.99, you can afford it since you have a job.

>>381236135
heroes of the storm's shop is grammatically correct.
not only can you buy cosmetics, but you can also buy heroes, which are expensive.
the argument was that blizz wasn't very jew.
hots's business model disagrees.
now fuck off, summerfag.

>>381237529
D3 has added more in free updates that anything LoD added, except new classes, and now you have a new class for less than half the price LoD was.

Keep being a delusional.

>>381237252
and it was never correct. again, the internet fractured our society. both ways.

those so-called professionals were used to generic cultural and societal trends. they're still trying to piece MTV together for fuck's sake.

>>381237148
> Lord of Destruction
> Anything similar to Diablo 3
> Anything similar to D3 DLC

It's so easy these days to find the ones who never touched D2 back in the days.

>>381237703
Sorry but I don't want any condom pulled out of your ass.

>>381237505
or he is at the point where $15 makes zero difference in his life.

Tell me, do you value one penny? Would you stop to pick up a penny? Would you take a stand against an evil corporation and vote with your dollar because you think one penny is too much to spend on it? Would you take the time to argue in a thread because someone else thinks the price of one penny is essentially meaningless, and anyone that thinks one penny is too much money is probably poor?

>>381237774
No, the correct way to phrase it is "the heroes of the storm shop" not "heroes of the storms's shop"

>>381230808

Because people keep clamoring for them out of pure nostalgia.

>>381237789
you keep forgetting they ruined the base game far worse than 1.0 vanilla D2.

the phrase 'it's the least they could do' comes to mind.

>>381237882
> He will buy Blizzard's condom pulled out of his ass

Top kek, just making my argument, thank you retard

>>381237861

LoD and RoS are the same. Adds new stuff, new characters and various other things.

>>381237950
Even rich people value one penny. That's basically the reason they are rich.

>>381237995

I don't think you have played vanilla unpatched D2, anon, otherwise you wouldn't make that claim.

>>381237791
Yes, the Internet had a great effect on the term, back when it was originally coined back in 1987

>>381238085

New D3 expac when?

>>381238248
When they learn how to make a shapeshifting druid

I don't understand. Is $15 a lot to you grognards? I make $27 an hour serving coffee on a train, with pension and benefits. I'm not rich, but I can afford a car and house at 28 years old. How the fuck can you troglodyte dickfucks not scrape together $15 for an expansion to a game you like? Because obviously the price doesn't matter if you were never gonna get it in the first place.

>>381237623
XD +1

>>381237789
>You should be grateful to Activision-Blizzard for adding new free content and should give them a free pass and buy ONE (1) character for $15 because of that

I didn't tell them to continue to support the game with free patches you dumb faggot, they release them so people keep playing.

>>381238310
>grognards
>>/rpgcodex/