720p docked. 60 fps with drops. Source digital foundry. How

Not. It looks fun as hell. Besides splatoon 2 went from 720 to 1080 so who the fuck knows

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>>381216661
>720p docked

You know the Switch is cool and all but I'm getting real tired of its lack of power

>60 fps

only thing that matters. nobody plays Mario for the graphics

60fps is nice though

>>381216842

This.

The development process probably starts with them getting the game to work in handheld mode as the standard before moving on to and trying to push the hardware as hard as they can in docked mode.

If by this fall it's still not native 1080p, then there's a problem.

It looks too ugly to be 720, that's a real surprise. It's hardly high octane so I'd rather see 30fps locked than dipping.

>>381217203
>>60 fps
With drops. 900 with 60 locked would would justified. You sacrificed 1080 for 60. That's fine.

720 with 60 WITH DROPS? Disgusting.

Undocked probably looks like a 3ds game

>>381216661
I care enough to reply, but and not any more. Idiots who think graphics/performance is alpha and omega are cancer.

>>381216661
Demo version nigger, Splatoon & Arms got a boost with resolution on release as well, also game ins considered "completed" already and is in the polishing phase now for the next 4 months

>>381216661
Jokes on you, I can even find a Switch.

>>381217575
I agree, why doesn't everyone just play the fucking game without worrying about the fps or res like ffs

>>381217524

You're really over exaggerating how bad this is. Mario Kart 8 on Wii U looks amazing and it's 720p/60fps with dips.

>>381216661
>How dissappointed are you?
Not at all, since the game doesn't come out until fucking October. Those aren't official numbers until the finished gamrt drops.

>>381217524
Actually undocked will probably look way better than dicked because of the small screen size, 720 is perfectly fine handheld

What I'm shitting myself over is playing while docked. I have a 70" TV and I'm already gagging thinking about how shitty 720 with frame drops will look on a screen that big

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>>381216661
I like DF but it's so fucking pointless to do videos on games that aren't out yet

>>381217786
MarioKart 8 does not dip, are you autistic?

I mean it's running on the fucking 3D World engine so I don't know how the fuck it's 720p60

>>381217951
Not really. It's always interesting to see how a game changes and improves (or doesn't) during development.

>>381218059
It's in development and it'll get better.

>>381217786
Mario kart on Wii U was 1080 59 frames per second. It skipped one frame. So Fuck off,

>>381217468
>30fps locked is better than 60fps with dips

spotted the retard

>>381217937
Wtf like just get a smaller tv nigga

>>381218021
It has a glitch where it's actually locked at 59fps

>>381216661
Not even at all

>>381216661
but what rhymes with odyssey?

>>381216783
>literally the first post
OBSSESED

>>381216661
I'm okay with 720p since I'll primarily be playing in handheld mode. I just hope they get it to a solid 60 by the time it's out. Pretty sure at this point in development it's just last minute bug fixes and optimizations. If reception is bad I'll just wait until Metroid to get a Switch.

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>>381218124
Nigga the game comes out in four months, that game is feature complete.

>>381218191
That's not "with dips" if it's locked at 59

Splatoon was 720p docked in the demo too, freaking out so early is kinda dumb

>>381218286
Nigga the splatoon testfire has a shorter time frame than this, and splatoon is already 1080p.

>>381218415
>freaking out so early is kinda dumb


The game comes out in 128 days. Development is finished.

>>381218591
The time frame is even shorter for splatoon anon

>>381216661
This thread is a joke, especially if you play on console.

>>381218159
Blow me you utter spastic. A lower but smooth franerate is 100% better.

>>381218591
The e3 demo is quite obviously not the latest build anon, besides optimization is often pushed at the last moments of development. The development is far from complete

Not even slightly disappointed. If this running at 720p honestly bothers you, you need to kill yourself

Can someone post a video or webm showing what exactly 60 fps with dips looks like? I get the feeling everyone here is freaking out over nothing, 60 fps with dips seems like it'd still be way smoother than anything that runs locked at 30 fps and you'd barely even notice the dips by comparison.

>>381218742
>PCfag gloats about how he can play his massive library of 2 games in glorious 4k 120fps

Yeah have fun w/ that

Super Mario Galaxy ran at 480p and it's one of the best game I've ever played.

>>381218890
Very rare dips based on the video, likely data streaming

>>381218890
>I get the feeling everyone here is freaking out over nothing
Welcome to almost every negative thread on /v/, now with free crying wojaks and more console wars!

Got my PC for graphics, so is really not that big of a deal.

Also, I never used my switch docked, in my head he is a portable only.

>>381218815
30fps is not smoother than 60fps with slight dips, how the fuck does anyone believe this? unless the dips are massive you're not going to even notice it.

the game only drops like 2 fucking frames at most and rarely.

getting the splatoon thread flashback right here. If portable res is same as dock it's clear the resolution will be bumped, not sure why this is even up for debate

>>381216661
Not at all.
FPS != Fun
Nu-PC-ucks master/r/acer's wouldn't understand.

>>381218907
>library of 2 games
I fucking wish sometimes
>looks at 10000000-hour backlog

>>381218815
>lower but smooth
This guy is an idiot.

I really wish Nintendo would've have simply made a powerful enough console.
Having first party titles being played in native 4k at 60fps could've been one of there marketing points. Their first party games are so easy to run, it's ridiculous.

Xbox one x can run 2 games so far in native 4k; forza 7 and lucky game. Lucky is literally a game that looks like a Nintendo title. Having emulated GC, wii and Wii U games at higher resolutions I can safely say it's doable. That would've brought back more 3rd party titles to Nintendo.
Imagine people actually being conflicted on which console to get first instead of the usual ps and Xbox pick.
They could've released the switch this fall or years later and market it as the next handheld successor to the 3ds.
Shame but Nintendo will continue to do whatever they want. It's like they have a clear cut path on how they want to proceed and nothing will steer them off it. Not the market, the audience or its current player base.

>>381218369
>X2

So a chip that came out just about right now and only offers a marginal performance upgrade from a smaller node process?

If anything they'll just snuck it onto regular Switches in the next couple of years. Might as well look into Xavier for a real upgrade later down the road.

>>381216661
>720p

more rehashing i see

>>381219109
This. Portable res will always be lower than docked res, I expect at least 900p

Glad to see they already got almost rock steady 60fps lol

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>>381219164
Yeah that backlog of farming and flying simulators must really be tough to get through

Master race

people really need to stop whining about resolution and FPS

Funny thing is on another platform that is like what 4x stronger a 3D corridor platformer runs at 1080p 30fps.

I was disappointed the second I saw those grass textures on that one level with the orange platforms and the second I saw that incredibly lazy, ugly, and out of place dust trail whenever Mario runs for a second or two.

>>381216661
Im disappointed it's 60fps.
Mario 64 was 30fps, so was sunshine.
60Fps on a 3d platformer is garbage

>>381219589
Is this comment even fucking real right now

>>381216661
When did 1080p become standard for games?

>>381219673
Near the end of last gen.

>>381219643
>comment
Hello rebbit

>>381219573
I have a PS4 too I just don't play it much because I'm not that into most third party stuff. Still glad I was able to play bloodborne and p5 though, thinking of picking up crash as well

>>381219757
>not demanding 60fps for platformers
No you are reddit

>>381219415
No, all games should be a locked 60fps.

The first 3D 60fps locked game on a Nintendo console was dark rift. That game came out twenty years ago in 1997. They've had two decades to get this right.

>>381219763
You will pick up kingdom hearts 3 when it comes out in 5 years right?

>>381216661
Just a fucking Demo and the sonyfags are very desperate already.

>>381219402
brb playing FPS with a joystick
brb playing Babby Kart
brb playing Naughty Dog angry lesbo sim
>>381219402
>farming and flying simulators
40-year-old manchild confirmed

>>381219815
Based on the demo there are only a few 1-2 fps dips which should be able to get polished by release. Expect a resolution bump too

>>381217046
The only reason 720p is odd is because most ps4 and xbox one are 1080p BUT 30fps and so we should take that into account. And honestly, they did increase Splatoon 2's resolution and they will probably do something with Mario too. After all, Nintendo usually leaves graphical polish for last in their games.

>>381216661
Mamma mia.
Wawawawawawa

>>381216661
>How dissappointed are you?
I'm pretty hyped to play the game, the gameplay looks fantastic and the DF video makes it very clear that the framerate dips don't happen often or last more than a second.

>>381219835
>5 years
hah, try 10. It won't even release on PS4

>>381219887
>joystick
You know the only part I liked about the Wii U is the focus on gyro for aiming

>>381219835
probably. Cartoon graphics and RPGs are kinda my thing

>>381216661
anything 720p and up is fine. only thing that matters is frame rate and it's 60 so I'm good

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>>381216661
gameplay is tight but this is the first console Mario that doesn't standout on the look department for me.

what a shame it will be 720p blurry mess too

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>>381219809
The reason why yooka laylee never felt like banjo was bc of 60fps and a first person shooter non restricted movement camera.
Kill yourself and go back to call of duty/csgo
Same shit

>>381220008
>You know the only part I liked about the Wii U is the focus on gyro for aiming
I use gyro aiming for all my games on my comfy couch PC

Console niggers can't possibly compete

>>381217046
Resolution isn't an indicator of power.
Poly counts, fillrates and transfer speeds are.

Fact is Nintendo should have either waited for a TX2 board or should have helped co-finance R&D on AMD's ARM SoC. Whichever would have came first.

>>381220092
Oh okay, I don't agree but okay

>Mario runs 60FPS
>Crash runs 30FPS

BTFO
T
F
O

>>381220185
>Resolution isn't an indicator of power.
Literally retarded.

>>381219815
Not everyone has issues with 30 fps. You just come off as a crying baby that needs a diaper changed.

>>381217203
You're saying that like it's implying mainline Mario games have shit graphics for their time.

Does anyone actually believe the game will be 720p BOTH docked and undocked? It will obviously be higher than 720p on release docked if undocked is already 720p

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>>381220237
>playing Undertale at 4K is more impressive than Witcher 3 at 1080p

>>381220185
Nintendo doesn't need to make the best products. They know Pixar's audience will buy them anyway.

>>381220263
>Not everyone has issues with 30 fps

Some people like their steak well done. Just because some people have shit taste doesn't mean others should be punished for it

>>381220323
Same thing happened with the splatoon 2 demo, it's just funposting

>>381220230
pottery

>>381216661
I don't care. Always been a poor kid. Been playing ps2 until 2011. Graphics don't matter.

>>381218143
mario kart 8 on wii u was actually 720p 59fps. do your research b4 posting, anon

>>381219263
>I really wish Nintendo would've have simply made a powerful enough console.
No thanks. It's the last thing the industry needs right now.

Riddle me this: Why does only Nintendo have 60fps 3D platformers these days? PS4 is far stronger than the fucking switch, a handheld

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>>381220460
>he eats his steak raw
disgusting

>>381216661
I really don't give a shit, it's going to be a fun game.

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>>381216661
Sonygr0es mad as fuck. Not only has Nintendo mic dropped the entire industry in 2017 with BotW, we're also getting a brand new bonafide Mario game which also looks amazing. It's not a question of it being good, it's a question of HOW good.

Fucking cry some more.

>>381220612
Medium rare.

>>381220594
>Key terms: powerful, enough

That's why Nintendo has no fucking 3rd party support.

>>381220612
he would have cleansed you, fag

>>381219589
at least try next time

>>381219263
Just what we need another fake pc

>>381220237
I'm just sick of people thinking resolution is a tell all of what the console can and can't handle. You can have a game look like Adventure and run in 8K/144FPS. That doesn't mean it can run other games in 8K/144FPS because other games might be more demanding.

Resolution doesn't matter.

I have mario kart on Wii U and Switch. 720 verses 1080 looks identical.

What I can tell a difference in is 30fps verses 60

>>381220460
sunshine and 64 were all 30 fps

and they pushed the graphical boundary in their time along with fun gameplay

this is 720p mess thanks for how gimped the switch is

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>>381219815
>all games should be a locked 60fps

Kekarino.

>>381220603
Sony keeps the bar low so their customers expectations are kept in check. Pretty brilliant as their customers even defend it.

>>381220717
>3rd party support is determined by power
This is horseshit. For example Dragonball fighterz is stated by the fucking developer to be able to run on switch and yet they want people to beg for it to be ported. It's the dumb view of "wait and see"

>>381220668
You do know that botw won't be GOTY right?

>>381217937
Splatoon 2 on a big tv looked clean and that game runs on 720p

>>381220820
Sunshine wasn't even the best looking on gamecube, it is mediocre looking at best. Wind waker looks far better

>>381220773
I'll explain it to you, autist. Developers don't make Adventure, they make games which attempt to compete in the current market. That means visual complexity and gameplay that attempts to outshine the status quo.

>>381220913
Yeah it'll be mario
>>381221008
It's 1080p now docked, confirmed by the developer.

>>381220815
>guys switch owners all own pc i swear
>"720 verses 1080 looks identical"

kek switchfags

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>>381220913
You do you're living in denial right?

BotW is a milestone in gaming. Gaming history has now been split into 'BEFORE BotW' and 'AFTER BotW'.

How's that asshole feeling?

>>381220815
>720 verses 1080 looks identical
Not on a 1080 or 4K display

>>381216661
>How dissappointed are you?
Pretty disappointed. There's really no reason why this couldn't have been on the Wii U.

>>381220773
Another retard.

Yes, Mario Odyssey looks like a NES game. Resolution mean nothing here.

>>381216661
Not at all because I'm not a graphicsfag and it won't impact how fun the game will be,

>>381220913
it will sadly, what other games released on 2017?
dont tell me you think horizon, persona, mass effect, resident evil or god forbid nier will be goty

>>381221016
of 3d platform i meant

though 64 pushed everything foward

I would much rather have 720p than sub 60 fps for a Mario game. I know you are used to "playing" cinematic experiences but fluid control of Mario is very important for the platforming.

>>381220439
>Nintendo doesn't need to make the best products.

It's called "viability", anon. No one has a problem with how the next Mario or Zelda would look because those aren't going anywhere but Nintendo's slab. I'm saying for things like getting a 3rd party port of a game because the novelty of playing it away from home does seem to be the system's selling point thus far and it doesn't seem to do a good job of for anything else except maybe sports games, which peaked a long time ago.

>>381217046
Nigga, I fucking told you it was a tegra and you didn't listen.

>>381221279
only 64 truly pushed the graphic envelope, but banjo and conker looked better

>>381221016
Sunshine had some neat effects though. The models were hit or miss, but lighting, reflection maps and water physics were amazing.

>>381221343
Splatoon 2 is 1080 60fps. Mario could be too, since Splatoon's demo was only 720p.

>>381219415
If a console can't deliver acceptable performance then what's the point of a console

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>>381220717
Nintendo has Japan so they have the third party support that matters. Who gives a shit about Western third party support.

>>381220148
>gyro
>on PC
oh shit nigger what are you doing

>>381221343
Explain splatoon, ARMS, and mariokart then.

whats really disgusting is the lack of proper aa

>>381221070
>>381221228

Missing the forest for the trees there, dummy.

>>381221431
Well this is actually a handheld and I guess the point would be being able to play anywhere without a TV.

I don't mind if handheld mode is 720p as long as it's 60 FPS. Docked mode should be 1080p though.

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>>381221343
>Ironically thinks graphical fidelity = mature gaming

Oh you silly kiddies crack me up.

>>381221418
wave race had better water imo

>>381221458
Steam Controller +couchgaming master race nigger

>>381221276
>N-Nintendo will win game of the year!
>S-Sales dont mean anything! I-Its quality gaming! S-Sonyshill!

Grow up.

>>381221568
It very well can be. Splatoon's demo was 720p. Digital Foundry has no proof this is what the final version will look like.

>>381216661
>720p docked. 60 fps

fucking dropped. I'll run tech demos instead

>>381221568
if handheld is 720p docked would be higher. 900p or 1080p is the question, I expect 900p

>>381221509
Simple games, 00s-level visuals

>>381221649
Sales? BOTW sold better than all 3, even back in March. The second closest is horizon I think, sadly nier is niche as fuck

>>381220185
>>381220237
>>381220405
>>381220773
But Odysssey is not even that demanding of a game, it's art style is simple, which is Nintendo's specialty. Resolution is a measure of power here, because the fact that the Nintendo's console in 2017 can't run fucking Odyssey at AT LEAST 1080 60 is downright embarrassing.

Didn't we have this shitposting before with Spaltoon 2? And it turned out to be docked 1080p anyway?

/v/ really is full of fucking children desperate these days.

>>381221590
>doesn't know vocabulary
>defending Nintendo re: mature gaming
>silly kiddies

>>381220904
>Comparing a 2.5d title to actual 3d rendered titles.
The reason it's not going to be on the switch is because they know people won't bother buying it.
Look back at the wii. Even though it was weak, devs still made an effort to release super cut down titles for it mostly because it had a huge install base. They soon realized not that many people buy those games on wii.
Now we have the wii u, an ever so slightly powerful wii. Why didn't devs release games for it? Because it would be a waste to release cut down versions of their game on it. The wii U only had one year of sports games. It's sad to not even have normie sports games get released yearly on a console.

Now we have the switch. It's weak, again. Do you really think devs working on AAA titles are going to bother making cut down versions for the switch? The answer is no. I'm sorry but the tech does have a say in what software gets released on it.

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>>381216661
Sorta what the fuck is the point in trying to make a pretty game on this fucking console if it's just going to GIMP the visuals like this.

>>381221737
>goalpost moving
Funny, really

>>381221649
youre the guy that needs to grow up man child screaming no youre wrong all the way to 2018 wont get you anywhere when everyone tells you otherwise
>sony
who the fuck mentionesd sony? and sonyponnies ask why theyre universally hated fucking grow up you piece of shit youre a mental retard

>>381221649
What do sales have to do with the quality of a game? How old are you kiddie?

Here's the actual video. He shows literally two or three drops. It's 99% stable framerate you CNNfag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8HTLRh6U5w

>>381221176
Such low quality bait, Jesus Christ

I hope you idiots realize the Switch could literally not be any more powerful. The only chip stronger than the one Nintendo got has not been released yet and certainly wasn't when Nintendo began manufacturing. The only way the Switch could be any more powerful is if it wasn't a mobile device. At which point, why bother? Why buy a shitty locked down PC instead of just building a PC?

>>381221874
it's right though, splatoon was recently bumped to1080p although it was 720p in the demo

>>381216661
Uh oh, that's just awful. And here I thought they were going to make a game that was meant to be played. What a shame.

>>381221968
>shitpost on /v/ exaggerates
Whoa really makes me think

>>381217994
I wish this meme was a real thing I'd be shitposting 24/7

>>381216661
57fps is literally unplayable, m i rite gais?

>>381221838
>doesn't understand how English works
>is mad about a video game company
>calls others kiddes

Oh the humanity.

>>381221909
"Well damn, he's got me. Instead of defending against the argument, I'll just use a debate club term."

>>381221114
Yea, it'll probably be Mario. That's a better choice than BOTW.
>>381221176
You're a dumbass, it's not.
you're gonna come back at me with a "that one Witcher dev praised it right?
>>381221276
It'll have to be Mario. BOTW is not going to win GOTY, you can bet on that.

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>>381221509
>Wii u ports and mini games

wew

>>381221823
>1080 60 is downright embarrassing.
It is kinda embarrassing it's Nintendo that does 60fps when every other studio only cares for the 4K meme

>>381222152
you already are

>>381216661
I want to play Mario Odyssey so I can bodysnatch a new donk city prostitute and get a client to take me home with him, and before he finishes on my face i jump out of her body and yell WAHOO

>>381222248
>>381222181
So wait, they don't count? Really makes my neurons fire

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It's another '/v/ desperately tries to derail the Nintendo train' episode.

Keep crying.

>>381222264
yeah but im not getting paid 10 cents per post, I'd literally set up a script and feed it paragraphs of console-biased propaganda and make bank

>>381222207
>that one Witcher dev praised it right?

Uh no, literally everybody praised it. Keep living in denial.

>>381222371
Neither does Pong

>>381221997
Yea... Nintendos to blame for creating a handheld and calling it a console.

I honestly think they just wanted to have another crack at the wii u. The switch is literally what the wii u was supposed to be like.

>>381222383
>This handheld isn't as powerful as a home console
>What a fucking joke

How can consolecucks in an era with 240 Hz displays still find 60 FPS acceptable?

>>381222508
Pong isn't on the switch though

>>381222445
so... that explains all the xfags on /v/

>>381218286
Feature Complete doesn't mean optimised, retard.

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>>381222371
zelda is 900p and 30 fps and thats a wii u game

defending switch's power is quite stupid, everyone knows its a joke

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>>381221997
>At which point, why bother?

Because Nintendo is composed of stubborn old gooks and they refuse to go third party. Them making the Switch the way they did is causing the quality of their games (and console) suffer. Could you imagine if they put out an actual, powerful, competitive console? They'd get lots more third party support and their games would be way more impressive. Imagine BotW in 1080 60 or even better. Basically fuck Nintendo

>>381222531
Nintendo is to blame for what exactly? Because it's selling amazing, to the extent it will likely remain sold out for at least a year. What exactly did they do wrong, because to me it looks like it worked great.

>>381222545
Consolecucks find 30fps platformers acceptable, ignore them

>>381222540
It's not an handheld though you retard
It's an hybrid

>>381218591
Earlier demo built, and not yet optimised like it'll be before launch. Don't be a retard Anon. We have enough here on /v/ already.

>>381222654
Wait so those games that are actually 1080p 60fps don't count? Huh. Mariokart was a wii u game too, so what do you think about that?

>>381222669
>is causing the quality of their games (and console) suffer.
I would MUCH rather be able to play games on the go than have a higher resolution and better graphical effects.

>>381222736
a hybrid handheld

>>381216661
60 with drops on a platform game sounds allright.

>>381222669
Every single console publisher should go thrid party then, consoles are killing the industry.

>>381222669
Switch sells amazingly, dumb fuck. Nintendo will never go third party as long as their shit sells gangbusters like the 3DS and Switch.

>>381222736
It is a handheld with an HDMI port. My laptop is not a "hybrid" because I can plug the HDMI cable into a monitor.

>>381222496
Go ask any of your IRL friends what they would rate botw.
I personally asked nearly 50 people and only 1 of them said it was a 10. Honestly, that guy was a fag anyway.. Every other answer ranged from 8-9.
Youve played the game right? How can you without a doubt give it a 10? I'm seriously asking. I started playing it days before release for a few weeks. I liked it but I just can't see BOTW being a masterpiece. So many things could have been vastly improved.

>>381221536
This desu. 720p AND no AA? Jesus christ you can clearly see the jaggies even in shitty youtube videos

>>381222669
never ever sonykekold.

How can they not hit 1080?
The game didn't look that amazing or anything.

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>>381222616
idk what scripts have to do with paranormal schizophrenics on /x/ but ok

>>381216661
And?

Splatoon 2 testfire also had the game in 720p - now it runs in 1080p. What's wrong with expecting them to release Mario in 1080p too?

>>381222674
>Because it's selling amazing, to the extent it will likely remain sold out for at least a year.

t.fucking moron

You're making it sound more impressive that it really is, in reality the Switch is constantly sold out because Nintendo refuses to do a mass restock, instead opting to send out a limited number of Switches at a time so the demand is sky high. The actual numbers themselves aren't that amazing

>>381222964
You do not know 50 people with a Switch and breath of the wild fuck off retard. Literally no one is buying your retardation.

Not even a little

The game looked great and it's still a couple months from release. The final build will be better for sure

>>381223068
>in reality the Switch is constantly sold out because Nintendo refuses to do a mass restock

nice source, idiot.

>>381222674
Your lack of 3rd party support anon. They're to blame for that. If you can somehow refute that, then I'd love to hear it.
Nintendo is smart at maximizing profits but when it comes to the actual products, they tend to choke.

I remember the Smash demo running in 720p. Then they released it and it was 1080p
Nintendo does this all the time.

>>381223068
They're selling the highest they've ever sold in every region.

>>381216661

its fucking mario, god, who play plataforms for the the graphics?

>>381223146
The Switch is a fantastic product tho

>>381222883
A hybrid console

>>381222941
Nintendo considers the Switch a "hybrid" console; it is designed primarily as ahome console, with the main unit inserted onto adocking stationto connect to a television.

>>381222669
>and they refuse to go third party
It'll never happen. They have too many valuable franchises and they keep making new golden eggs like Splatoon.

>>381223146
I suppose the audience is part of the blame. Third parties have this mentality that what Nintendo fans don't buy non Nintendo games

>>381223079
Only 3 of them I believe had it on the switch. Everyone else played it on wii u including me.

>>381223146
I do not want to play the vast majority of third party games. The 2-3 worth playing I can just buy another console for years down the line when the PS4 is $100.

>>381223005
x(box)fags

>>381223302
You know 50 people with a Wii U? What kind of universe do you live in what the fuck

>>381223281
It does not matter what Nintendo considers it you stupid fuck. Nintendo could consider the Switch a duck that does not make it a fucking duck. It is a handheld that has an HDMI port.

based on past games, id assume the full version will run 1080p 60fps, at least for docked. Undocked it could be 720p, but some still run at 1080 so its hard to say.

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>>381223302
>he bought a WiiU

>>381223256

>*The Switch is a fantastic Nintendo machine with nearly non-existent 3rd party

Fixed

>>381223318
So you're literally a nintenbro?
I mean, it sounds like you would be that one guy to buy a Nintendo console to last you till the end of the generation. I personally can't do that, I'd be missing out on too many games. The handful of Nintendo games out there don't warrant me getting a switch.
I don't have a ps4 but I do plan on getting one this holiday.

>>381222669
>most profitable gaming company
>should go third party

this meme never fails to make me laugh. We know you want nintendo games on your consoles but never ever, anon

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>>381222810
Wait so 900p ~30fps with drops for zelda, terga x1, bomberman can not run at 1080p 60fps downscaled multiplat, grimped or no ports from 3rd parties. Now 720p for new Mario

wait where does all that power go ?

>surely that must means those 3 ports for switch are the cutting edge of todays industry and we were just unlucky with the rest

lol defending switch hardware

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>>381223414
>It is a handheld that has an HDMI port
So... it's a hybrid. By the way, did you guys preorder Skyrim yet? It's an excellent game that inspired games like Breath of the Wild

>>381216661
Not at all since splatoon went from 720p to 1080p, we don't know the final resolution. I bet 900p for such game but who knows.

>>381223414
>it does not matter what makers of the console think
>let me continue with my stupid narrative
Off yourself you retarded

>>381223598
Actually I think there are far more 1080p games that not, bomberman is strange because that game is quite obviously less demanding than shit like splatoon.

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>>381223329
fuck brb kms

>>381223550
I don't have any loyalty to Nintendo but unfortunately they are the only ones consistently making good games anymore. I loved the PS2 and even the PS3 was great, but the PS4 did not get a single good exclusive until Bloodborne. It has built up an okay library at this point (Nier, Yakuza, Persona) but it's still not worth $300 to me. If Sony or Microsoft would offer better games I would buy their systems but right now they're stuck on the "cinematic experiences" bandwagon.

>>381223469
There's tons of 3rd party on it already. Nobody bought it to play call of shit.

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Kind of weird how people cucked themselves into thinking even 1080p is acceptable in 2017

WITH FRAME DROPS.

Heh kind of sad really.

if you buy a console expecting 1080/60 you're a fucking moron

>>381223456
It's worse than that.
I refunded my g27 and bought a wii u. Mostly due to the smash 4 hype and the Zelda u tech demo. Both of which didn't quite meet my expectations. I wish I kept the g27. Could've been doing sick drifts while listening to euro beat
>>381223395
A lot of people have a wii u where I'm from (NYC). Most are collecting dust but the new Zelda game must have convinced people to bust out the wii u.
Believe it or not, a couple of people gave me their wii Us last year just because. I ended up installing games on them and selling them for extra cash.

>>381222964
>Youve played the game right? How can you without a doubt give it a 10? I'm seriously asking.

Forget about scores for a second. GOTY isn't just about who got the most high scores. That anon who said BotW is a new milestone in gaming is absolutely right. BotW will win GOTY because it's impact on the future gaming landscape will be massive.

>>381223838
>Nier
*also on PC
>Yakuza
*also on PS3
>Persona
*also on PS3

>>381224129
Yeah I know but at least they're good games.

>>381216661
nigga it's mario i just wanna go wahooo and yipee it could look like a turd smeared tampon for all I care

>>381216661
In development.

Single drop to 57fps.

>>381223414
must be hard being this retarded

>>381223849
>There's tons of 3rd party on it already

HahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-

*looks back at you*
*breathes in*

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>381217937
And why don't you sit farder?

>>381222892
I watched the video and the drops aren't a problem
It drops from 60 to 59 for like a second while its loading assets, and it only happened a small handful of times during his 20 minute demo of the game.

>>381219912
>because most ps4 and xbox one are 1080p
Actually most PS4 are 1080p with resolution scaling to 768p, and 30fps with drops. True native 1080p only really became a common thing with the Pro.

>>381223838
I suppose so. I've been on pc since this gen started and I'm glad I joined pc. Now that some games are coming out, I kinda want to get a ps4 pro. Hoping for some nice holiday deals.

But yea, those build up of games is specifically why I won't get a switch. I'll completely miss out on console only(ps and Xbox) exclusives. I'm looking forward to rdr 2 and kingdom hearts 3 along with a bunch of other Sony exclusives. Would be cool if Nintendo released that new Mario game on wii u though.
I'm also hoping that a new console doesn't get announced right after I get a pro.

>>381223550
I'm not that anon, but I think nobody ever gets only a Nintendo console. Personally, I believe PC + Switch is the best combo since you get the best multiplats and nintendo games. You can get all the consoles if you are not poor.

>>381224406
PS5 is coming out soon. I honestly don't know why anyone would consider getting a PS4 at this point when companies just remasters their games anyway.

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>>381223897
>game drops from 60FPS to 59FPS for literally a second while the game loads assets in the distance

its literally nothing
This is just a demo, and it still only has "frame drops" on about the same level as MK8 did where once or twice a race you might get a slight dip to 59 for a moment. Its not quite as bad as some other games on some other consoles that only hit 60 once in a blue moon and spend most of your playtime fluctuating between 40-50FPS

>>381224375
Xbone is generally running most games at 900p at most as well.

>>381217937
Jesus, life must have been brutal for you before HD existed.

>>381218214
Is that why Splatoon and any given Maruo, Zelda, Pokemon, or Smash game outsold Bloodborne? Despite Splatoon being on the WiiU.

>>381216661

720p is still a perfectly fine and acceptable standard nowadays, there's no actual difference between 720p and 1080p and greater

>>381216661
It can't run at Stable 60FPS even at 720p?
That's seriously dissapointing.

>>381218815

Just so you know, spasticity refers to upper motor neuron damage, and does not exactly relate to intelligence, unless the lesion was pretty big (think M1 occlusion) and the patient ended up with a ton of sequels, including compromise of the hability to communicate and/or motor skills.

In fact, mental retardation is always genetic, and has nothing to with a defective UMN.

>>381224854
>there's no actual difference between 720p and 1080p and greater

Wow Nintenbros really go the the max levels of delusion to defend their shitty fisher price toy company

lmaoing at your life rn

>>381224116
To me, and most people back in the day, masterpiece was reserved for games that did exceptionally well in their genre. They are the games that could not have been made any better at the time. Just look back at the past GOTY winners. They all deserved it except undertale for personal reasons.

Anyway, lately it seems that GOTY and even the rating system have lost a lot of value.
You can't tell me that botw could've have been made any better. You'd just be bullshitting. What key aspects of BOTW would you like to see in other games?

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>>381224843
Fun fact: Splatoon sold twice as many units as Bloodborne and Bloodborne isn't even in the top 30 games for PS4 worldwide

>>381216661
It's fucking Mario who cares
60fps is all that matters

>>381224545
Now I'm conflicted. Idk if I should get the pro anymore. It seems like the ps4 and xbone are here to stay for at least another 3-4 years.

>>381224854
>>381224992
nintenbro/pcfag here he's a fucking retard

>>381225002
>You can't tell me that botw could've have been made any better.

It'd be far better if it was on PC. Hell, even for PS4 it would be much better.

>>381216842
The first post is usually the best post, as is demonstrated here.

I really wonder how many of you actually watched the video...I guess less than 25 percent.

>>381225213
Exactly. The game could've been much better if the hardware was just stronger. It's even able to be emulated at 4k on budget PCs now. I couldn't wait for that and just played it on the wii u.
If the hardware was better, there could've been more content in the game. More set pieces, better graphics and performance.

If Nintendo makes the next Zelda game similarly, I'm sure it'll turn out much better than BOTW. A lot of people say that it's sorta like a test game for the next Zelda and I have to agree. Still, as it stands, BOTW is not GOTY material.

>>381225002
>You can't tell me that botw could've have been made any better.

Durability was executed horribly
>The story is full of plot holes, redundant, etc.
>Your damage being purely tied to weapons that break easily leads to a lack of a felling of progression by the player
>There is a lot to do in the game but it still suffers from "Empty wasteland syndrome", large plots of land have absolutely nothing to do or see in them
>The dungeons are subpar
>Combat is too easy, even "hard" enemies like Lynels can be defeated easily with shoot + mount

The game is not the best in its genre. Pretty good but too many critical flaws hold it back. BOTW 2 will be god tier if they ever make it though

>>381216661
I really doubt it's not running at 30fps. I'd rather have 30 fps in every kind of console game except for racing and fighting in favor of getting better visuals, and most devs seem to agree.

>>381216661
>720p docked. 60 fps with drops. Source digital foundry.
werent they the same that said that based on "their analisys" the BotW game segments shows were running at 60 fps??

>>381225701
>If the hardware was better, there could've been more content in the game
Hah. It would just cost more and content would be stripped away.

>>381225709
Wow, someone with actual experience with the game. Too bad shills will shit on you and claim you either
>didn't play the game
>didn't play enough
>played wrong

I'm not saying it won't be 720@60, but

>using a month old E3 build

c'mon lads

>>381218286
your point?? BotW Switch got patched to fix 99% of the frame rate issues.

OPTIMIZATION

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>>381217786
>over exaggerating

>>381225995
Yeah, shills are gonna shill. The game is mad good I just don't know what the devs were thinking with the way they implemented durability. Gear breaks waaaay too fast and it led to me actively avoiding conflict because I didn't want my shit to break. BotW suffers really hard from "Sticker Star Syndrome" and I hope they get that shit ironed out next time

>>381225946
Not necessarily. I'm guessing you mean that the console would cost more? That's a given but at least it would not be a weak POS.
I'm not sure about content being stripped. BOTW felt more of a sandbox type of game anyway. I wish they implemented solid puzzles into the game. The seeds and shrines just weren't cutting it for me. Instead, they could've had cool memorable set pieces at each of the shrine locations (or scattered throughout the empty ish world). At those set pieces, they could've had good puzzles for heart pieces. Like, most Zelda games have windmills (ferris wheel in WW) and a puzzle to go along with it. Normally, it would take players a good amount of time to figure out how to get that heart piece.
In BOTW, shrines are easily completed in 5 minutes or less and they generally feel the same.

Gonna end my random rant. Point was, BOTW had a lot more potential. Maybe the next game will capitalize on it.

>>381216661
Switch is such a piece of shit

>>381226891
Exactly! Finally someone who gets it. Whenever I mentioned avoiding fights or beelining past enemies to climb the tower, people would say I'm playing wrong. I just didn't want to break my weapons on pointless fights. I know for sure people stopped clearing camps once they realized they got the same generic loot each time.

>>381217374
I'm just happy they are targeting 60fps really, don't mind as much if it stays 720p.

>>381226891
Not that guy but I never really wanted to avoid fights because I always felt like I had too many weapons. I wanted excuses to waste my weapons and that just motivated me to fight even more. Whenever I had the feeling that I didn't want to break anything, I'd just use the many bows I had or the master sword.
But hey, that's just me. I don't think there's any objective take on the game as many of the things are heavily subjective and for me, durability was really never a problem.

>>381225709
>>381225995
>>381226891
>>381227313
Sounds like a personal opinion problem to me.

>>381217046
how the fuck can you complain about power if most games come out on the shitty 240p 3ds

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I think the PS3 has more native 1080p games than the Switch.

Not even joking.

>tfw the switch is weaker than nvidias little side project literally who handheld console before even a year has passed since its release

nintendo should just stop making hardware, they haven't made good hardware since the gamecube

>>381220730
As opposed to what, a facsimile of your grandmas 10 year old bestbuy pc that we have now in the switch

>>381227313
>I just didn't want to break my weapons on pointless fights
You kind of have the wrong mentality there. There's no reason to be so conservative when the game shits out weapons left right and centre.

>>381216661

As long as it's 30+ fps it's playable so why would I be disappointed? Even shit below 30 is bearable, high fps is nice to have but far from necessary.

>>381218591
Breath of the Wild went gold a month ahead of time.

>>381227645
>Legitimate criticism of the game
>"P-PERSONAL OPINION PROBLEM I DIDNT HAVE ANY ISSUES"

It's a lapse in the games design. It could've been done better. If you're going to put durability in your game, it better not ever feel like a burden to the player, but a tactical aspect of their gear. If you can't accomplish that, it's better to play it safe and leave it out.

>lying to shitpost

sad life

>>381216661
Not very, got a powerful PC for high res high fps stuff, mario looks fun. Still debating switch

>>381226912
>but at least it would not be a weak POS
It's not weak. I have a PC so I have zero reason to buy outdated garbage like Playstation. Switch has portability which my PC can't do even if it's powerful as fuck.
>Point was, BOTW had a lot more potential.
Yeah, thanks for all the autistic screeching. Always a good laugh.

ALL CAPS REMINDER THAT BREATH OF THE WILD RECEIVED NOT ONE BUT -TWO- LARGE UPDATES THAT MADE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS TO THE OVERALL PERFORMANCE AND VISUAL FIDELITY OF THE GAME.

>>381228445
>>381228445
>>381228445

>>381216661
Damn, that's like 40fps more than 99% of PS4 games. Pretty impressive.

>>381228002
Duh. It has a library formed over what 8 years now?
It has more than most modern consoles let alone one that came out a few months ago.

>>381228493
And performance while docked is still ass, amazing

*slow clap*

>>381220185
Son, resolution is probably the SINGLE GREATEST indication of power there is. Nothing else taxes a GPU more. It's literally adding more pixels to be rendered.

>>381228094
Nah, they haven't made food hardware SINCE.

Their past 4 consoles have always had a design flaw holding it back.

Switch- handheld being marketed as a console.
Wii u- gimmick tablet. Gamepad literally cost more than the actual console

Wii- gimmick motion controls in exchange for weak hardware. Fun at first but people get over it after a bit. No reason to buy 3rd party games on it.

GameCube- mini DVD. Literally why?

N64-choosing cartridges over optical media. Why?

It's like they keep shooting themselves in the foot right before reaching the finish line. Their handhelds are good though.

>>381227387

Anybody with a fucking brain should have this opinion

>>381228653
Actually, there's SIGNIFICANTLY less drops and the whole game looks a LOT prettier.

Remember at release how the tutorial zone was a chugfest? Not anymore.

>>381228463
So you actually admit to buying a handheld and calling it a console.

CASE CLOSED

>>381216661
Thats pretty good, the early build only dropped to like 55 a few times

It dips to like 59 for half a second during area transitions
It's also the same resolution on both currently. Will probably be bumped to 900p or 1080p on docked at launch.

>>381228802
I'm literally playing the game right now and there are still plenty of drops. Beating a monster's ass will randomly cause the game to freeze for a second or two in areas with lots of foliage/buildings. Koror forest is a nightmare and them releasing the game with that area in that state is unforgivable.

I wonder how many years until the Switch gets an emulator. Would be nice to play this shit with a higher rendered resolution

>>381216661
Extremely disappointed. I actually cannot enjoy this game now due to numbers

>>381228802
Most people finished playing the game before those patches existed. I don't remember the plateau being a chug fest really. I got used to the frame rate there. It's the villages that I couldn't handle. Now those were slugfests.

I also played on wii u so I don't know if those patches apply.

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>>381228760
>GameCube- mini DVD. Literally why?
>N64-choosing cartridges over optical media. Why?
This is why. Nobody had the hardware to pirate N64 and GC games, and it made Nintendo more profitable despite "sonydomination".

>>381216661
>BUT M-MUH EXCLUSIVES
Nintenbros eternally BTFO

>>381223897
1080p is plenty unless it's VR or some other thing that covers most of your FOV. I got a new phone and I still can't tell that it's 720p vs my old 1080p phone. And yes, my glasses prescription is still correct.

>>381229051
>Beating a monster's ass will randomly cause the game to freeze for a second or two in areas with lots of foliage/buildings
Yeah, the Moblin bug is still a thing. Why should anybody care.

>>381229140
Wii U user detected.

>>381228883
Yeah, it's a hybrid.

>>381228653
Better than most consoles funnily enough.

>>381228883
Marketed as a console

By still supporting the 3DS they are saying that the 3DS is the handheld, and the switch, while portable, is still primarily a console. Their advertisements align with this school of thought, as well as the consoles battery life of <4 hrs.

>>381216661
>720p
Is this the let's pretend it's 2008 thread

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>>381216661
>720p in 2017
So essentially Switch has the same specs as WiiU

>>381229051
>Korok Forest

Runs a metric fuckton better since the patches. It went from Blighttown tier to just slight hiccups and chugs.

>>381229278
>Marketed as a console
have you seen literally any of the commercials for this thing?
it's marketed as a millennial rooftop party machine

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>>381229221
>Thing in game is objectively bad, detracts from player experience
>"why should anybody care"

Every time I come here, some moron always makes me lose faith in the intelligence of this board, without fail. Holy shit how can someone think like this?

Still has a better framerate than Bloodborne.

>>381229497
Because it's ONLY when there's Moblins and it's ONLY when you ragdoll them and it's ONLY a slight lockup for less than a full second which is a huge improvement from the unpatched state where the game could seize up for 2-3 seconds at a stretch.

>>381229484
Now that I think about it, I haven't seen any commercials or ads for this thing since the initial trailers. It's not on any busses, subways or billboards.

>>381229178
Wasn't it because Nintendo could actually sell the (underpowered) hardware at a profit, whereas for Sony, the hardware was either at a loss or very slim?

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>>381229221
>Wii U user detected.

Please don't bully me

>>381216661
I'd love to play it but I'm not buying Nintendo's overpriced garbage.

>>381217937
>Actually undocked will probably look way better than dicked

But dicked is hotter

>>381229904
YEA.

>>381229676
You don't watch sports much or go to movies then.
I see an ad every time I go see a movie and half the time I'm watching some sports game

>>381229904
You sound bi-polar.

>>381229497
I dunno about the guy you're responding to but over the course of my 80-hour playthrough I only experienced the Moblin freeze twice.
The game freezing for several seconds was pretty unexpected and kind of ridiculous, I thought it had crashed. But in the end it didn't detract from much.
The game's performance is the least of its problems imo.

>>381216661
Won't it look a lot better un-docked though?

>>381220689
Patrician

>>381229883
I'm not, but anytime somebody talks about drops while in town, you know they're on Wii U. Switch handles them with ease.

>>381217717
Also extra lives dlc, luigi dlc, yoshi dlc....

>>381230240
Well shit, I guess it depends on location then because I didn't see shit on TV. Haven't been to the movies since last year I think. Can only remember sausage party.

NINTENDO WON

>>381220460
If we're going with the steak analogy, it's more like some people are ok if their steak is cooked medium, despite preferring it to be more rare. Not everybody demands perfection all the time.

Are there any nintendo switch games that run 1080p? Is it even possible on the switch?

>>381231695
MK8D and Shovel knight for starters

>>381231695
Splatoon 2 is 1080p 60fps now, so yes.

>>381231695
Arms runs at 1080p and a few indies too. The thing is that Nintendo focuses on 60fps on anything that isn't Zelda so you probably won't see much 1080p from them. Maybe their 2D platformers will easily achieve 1080p.

>>381231695
Fast RMX runs at a stable 60 and 1080p

It won't be 720p. That's a deal breaker for any console game released after 2010.

>>381231271
But demanding perfection is how you elevate the quality of the product

Settling for mediocrity will net you more of the same

>>381232596
nah

>>381232596
No its not. Because Nintendo, unlike other companies, doesn't advertise itself on resolution. It can be 720p and most of those who buy it won't even notice a difference when they play it.

>>381233078
It's one thing to ignore the advancements in resolution and release a handheld against 4k competition but it's another thing entirely to actually go backwards, especially with their flagship game.

>>381233301
Fucking chill. The same shitposting went on with Spaltoon 2 and it turned out to be 1080p.

>>381221873
Actually UE4 can export a title for the Switch, it is just about optimization then.

>>381217575
This

>>381233301
Yeah but they won't care. Only /v/ cares about these technical details, it could be 30fps and barely any of its demographic would care.
The thing is while Nintendo can get away with 720p games, Microsoft won't get away with many 1080p game after constantly shilling and promoting 4k resolution. They will soon be branded as liars by the normies due to some random news outlet reporting a game as not 4k.

>>381228760
n64 was great and had no loading times, ps1 had 90 second loading times in some games

>>381229819
The n64 had better graphics than the ps1, what are you, some knid of retarded sonybro? I bet you think Unsharted is the pinnacle of gaming

>>381216661

Framerate can and probably will be improved before release, as DF notes. 720p is a shame but doing a sandbox Mario at 60fps on something like the Nintendo Switch this was bound to happen. It'll be native res in undocked mode so that's great.

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>>381235830
Please tell me that you're falseflagging, I want to believe that Nintendo fans aren't brain-damaged manchildren despite what /v/ says. Besides, I wasn't talking about the N64 specifically, I was talking about the GameCube and the Wii.

And no, I'm not a Sonybro (probably not what you originally typed but whatever). Pic related for console comparison, the N64 was more powerful in some aspects but was hamstrung in other ways beyond cartridge size.

>inb4 nvidia optimizes it near launch

they do that for NX right?

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>>381229819
>(underpowered)
N64 and Gamecube were much stronger than the PS1 and PS2

>>381235721
>no loading times

Heh, nice meme

>>381237469
If the gamecube is so great then why doesn't it have devil may cry, final fantasy, and other game

>>381236828
ps1 didn't even have z-buffering and all games looked like shit, you're delusional. Also the gamecube was objectively in every sense more powerful than the ps2.

>>381238530
i dont know if youre samefagging or if you have sub-80 iq

>>381227387
this

Either way, this is the only game left this year worth getting. I don't care about the resolution at all as long as I get to play this amazing shit.