>can cancel healing/eating >no more flexing >pulsebar

>>381209687
isn't the gameplay being more fluid and snappy a good thing? why does /v/ complain about this shit?

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I don't know who's trolling who anymore. I've been playing since MH2 and it has never been the hardcore experience people make it out to be besides some wonky hitboxes until Tri. On top of that, I usually hunt solo if I want more challenge. Multiplayer is casual mode no matter how hard you will try to refute this. And I am pretty damned sure that the people complaining about what looks like a natural evolution from 4U and call it "casualised" are the same people that constantly ran 4 player hame rooms or never cleared a G-Rank quest alone. These threads are filled to the brim with falseflagging shitposters, consolewar kiddies and people that are casual to their core and don't want to admit it.

And nobody ever forced anyone to use Hunter Arts or pick any style besides Guild except babbies who cry "muh dps"

>>381209687
So you are basically saying
>Monster hunter is now a 10/10 game and not the retarded grind and shit tier game play anymore

FeelsGood to have a PC and will enjoy the full experience

>>381209687
The thing I like the least is how you can move while shooting with the HBG.
The entire point of the weapon for years has been that it lets you shit out insane amounts of damage at range for the tradeoff of being the least mobile weapon in the game (except maybe gunlance gunlance but then you get a fuckhuge shield) which is combined with the fact that you have gunner armor.

>>381209808
Because autists hate change.
They literally do, im not baiting, lying or whatever.
One of the features of autists is having a hard time to adapt to new things, thats why they hate changing the statu quo.

>>381209687
>retarded flexing is gone

thank god i hated that

>>381211380
Nearly everyone hates change you mongoloid

>>381209687
>healing in the first place
Most people just ran in the next area and helaed, now you have shit going on all the time. It's better that it oesn't take ages anymore. You'd probably love it if it was that way on Nintendo

>>381209687
>only 3 maps on release
>more as DLC
>monsters also confirmed to be sold in DLC packs

>>381213190
>Most people just ran in the next area and healed,
People who were bad at the game did that

>They didn't show village
>The demo was almost exactly like the e3 leaked demo
Atleast we saw the loot screen was the same, how Palicos look and the equipment screen.

>>381213448
In other words, people who were bad at the game cannot just flee from the monster anymore, and people who were good seldom had to heal or always picked a safe moment for it.

This change hits shitters the hardest, no wonder there is such a massive outcry on /v/ about it.

>>381213141
t. Autist

Did they say anything about blood splatter during the presentation?

>>381213571
Closed door E3 demo didn't show the map either. Also they killed the target hunt much faster, singled out the Rathalos by blowing up the dam themselves, and later went back and did a 4 man hunt on the target.

>>381209687
no shit. just pirate the game and shut up about it

>>381213141
http://www.autismhwy.com/articledetails.php?id=77

>
Disliking change is one of the most common symptoms in autism. Anyone who has a vague idea of what autism is will know that the autistic person often has a routine, does repetitive movements and is greatly distressed if they are not allowed to follow these little rituals.


>change minor shit in game
>autist throw a tantrum

LMAO

>>381213847
>Closed door E3 demo didn't show the map either.
What? I'm almost certain they did.

>>381213141
https://www.google.com.ar/search?q=why+autists+hate+change&oq=why+autists+hate+change&aqs=chrome..69i57.4473j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

>>381209687
>no more flexing
didn't lots of people complain about flexing?

>>381211380
>>381213802
>>381213904
>>381213980
guess everyone is autist for hating DmC then

>>381213690
Yeah but now we get a grappling hook so it's a lot easier to make distance now depending on where you are.
I'm wondering if there are going to be more monsters with ranged attacks or gap closers now to accommodate all the new shit.

>>381214147
>/v/ hated DmC, /v/ is filled with autists
>Rest of the world liked DmC, rest of the world doesnt have such a high concentration of autists.

whoop dee doo

>>381214514
autist

>>381210319
Except it was forced because monster hp was doubled to tripled based on the rank

>>381214514
>Rest of the world liked DmC
Thats sure why it bombed like a motherfucker and why capcom refuses to make another DMC.

>>381214514
>anyone
>liking DmC
If that was true it would had not sold like shit

>>381214514
Tameem get out of here.

>>381214245

Not sure if that's really necessary, considering a monster won't die if you aren't close enough to attack it. And if turbo shitters really want to abandon their teammates to heal, let them be. Just like people who pretend that "something just came up" right after a quest starts and they join again close to the monster's death their deplorable attitude will bite them in the ass someday.

Things i REALLY fucking want to be addressed:
>ADD INTERNAL AMMO IN
>Fix the goddamn elements sustem
Why the hell do they even bother to put so much effort in designing and animating all those good-looking, elaborate weapons if no one is going to use 90% of them? Internal ammo fixed this problem for guns, but they're yet to fix all the Raw-weapon roster

>>381213230

Source or kill yourself.

>>381214132
Outside your imagination, no.

>>381214806
There's plenty of beloved games that sold like fucking garbage. team ico made an entire fucking genre of that.

>>381210509
>Not the retarded grind.

Where was this confirmed kek ? enjoy hunting for those Rubies dumbass.

>>381209687
Why wouldn't you be able to cancel eating? Sounds fucking stupid just thinking about it.

>>381209687
>no more flexing
you guys really complain about everything

>>381214690
t. Shitter

>>381215348

It's literally just a bunch of autists whining about how the "hardcore" experience will be taken away from them, as if animations going on way too long is something to be proud of. They'll also unironically call it "strategic" when all you need to do is run to the next map space, drink your potions or eat your shit, then run back to the fight.

>>381215348
Because it is a video game where the typical rules of logic do not always have to apply, especially if the developers of that video game want healing to be risky and take a significant amount of time.

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>>381210319
Aspects of MHW are a natural evolution of MH4U, while other aspects really are just straight casualization.

In no world are scout flies, walking while healing, and changing equipment at base camp an evolution of MH's direction as of 4U. Expanded use of the terrain, more advanced AI and the new mounting system are.

>>381216121

Just go to the next map space to heal or do whatever. As long as you've got a paintball on the monster it doesn't matter because you know its exact location.

>>381215128
there were shit tons of people that complained about flexing. But they were all people that don't play monster hunter and tried it for an hour.

>>381216251
>advanced AI
Meanwhile the T-rex fell asleep in the same room hunters were

>>381213141
Now this is autism.

>>381216280
I don't count these as ''people'' as far as MH is concerned.

>>381216121
>where the typical rules of logic
I understand that, but even suspension of disbelief has its limits. If a fucking monster the size of a T-Rex is chomping down on me, I sure as hell should be able to stop eating whatever and start running away.

>>381216280

Flexing is a terrible mechanic that serves to waste a players time and bring the gameplay to a screeching halt. It doesn't matter that the game has been designed around it, because the monsters end up far too predictable to be worth fighting.

>>381216251
>Scout Flies
Psycho Serum

>Walking while healing
It's incredibly slow you might as well be standing. It's not an instant heal anymore

> changing equipment at base camp
How does this casualise it?

>>381216251
Scout flies are just Psychoserums/Balloon reworked into the environment. Walking while healing might be a good change if the monsters don't step and turn anymore, and we're gonna need to see more gameplay to be able to judge it fairly. Changing equipment at base camp is not forced on you by any game mechanic in place, and can be ignored if you so desire just like Hunter Arts and Styles sans Guild.

/v/ - we fear change

>qol changes
>walk while drinking for easy heals instead of walking out of the area or waiting for the monster to leave
>can now see when monster is close to dead
>this means you don't have to pussyfoot around when trapping weaker monsters

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>there are people who actually left the area to heal and sharpen their weapons

>>381217169

This. These are positive changes that will waste less of a players time.

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>>381209687
>60fps on PC
>30fps on consoles
And yet console PLEBS WILL pay FULL price KNOWING that they get only HALF the frames.
I will NEVER understand.

>>381217253

Once you get speed sharpener and speed consume it doesn't matter.

Unless you're saying that mitigating the delay by grinding more somehow makes the game more hardcore.

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>>381217529
>putting speed sharpener and speed consume on your armor sets
I'm not gonna act like MH is a hardcore bastion of gaming, but c'mon.

>>381217253
What's wrong with leaving zones?

>>381217529
Nigga you are losing so much with that

>>381217253
I never did. Because monsters always fuck off of you after 1-2 attacks and switch target, or roar (i specifically abuse roars to reload\drink potion) or something else. Sharpening is slightly bit more iffy but doable too. Never ate near monster though

>Make western game
>Slap Monster Hunter on it
wew

>>381217529
>Once you get speed sharpener and speed consume
Jesus fucking christ, what a waste of skills

>>381217759
>>381217876
>>381217972

It wastes less of my time, or at least I feel like it wastes less of my time. As a person who can only play for an average of 2 hours a day, this is very important.

Japs loved it though. And as we know

Jap taste>>>>>>>>>>Our taste

>>381217907
>monsters always fuck off of you
Forgot to mention
>except if it's fucking Zamtrios
Because holy shit that faggot will never fucking let you go if you're damaged, that sphincter-clenching cunt
I love Zamtrios

>>381217253
Sharpening, yes, Healing, no. Sharpening is a bit different, it takes way fucking longer than healing, and sharpness is actually crucial to your DPS.

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t. Japaniggers getting angry over Monster Hunter World becoming the most popular Monster Hunter in history, thus leaving their dying prune of a demographics country behind, forever and ever.

>>381217907
I used to cook next to the monster in FU

FU monster AI was really predictable though

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>>381218121
Reminder that no game in Japan on PS4 has sold over a million, and that most Nips prefer handhelds overall.

>>381213141
>MH finally changes ONCE in a decade
>"FUCK THIS SHIT"

Meanwhile nobody complained about Metal Gear changing.

>>381218121
that fucking delusion. im jealous
reminds me of the faggot that said splatoon will sell less than 300k or he will eat his hat or some shit

>>381218452
Probably because people suck Kojimbo's cock far more than they do for Capcom

>>381218296
MHW portable for holiday 2018 screen cap this.

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>>381218539
Also what is the 15th weapon

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>Love Monster Hunter
>First trailer did nothing for me
>Was unimpressed with the demo

>>381213190
>Most people just ran in the next area and helaed
Uh, no they did not... Did you ever even play a MH game online?

>>381218728

>implying multiplayer can be compared to online

No you fuck off. It's really easy to heal without a punish when there are 3 other people distracting the monster.

>>381218531
It's amazing how people don't want to see Kojima do something different for once(a non MGS game) after basically wasting everyone's time and money after TPP

>>381218673

Nice catch, I was confused why this would be the only main entry to the game without a new weapon but this seems to indicate they just haven't revealed it yet.

>>381210319
This post is correct. MH games are only "hard" because people arent used to enemies in games dealing that much damage, and missions taking so long. Actually failing a mission in multiplayer is so rare.

If you want difficulty soloing some G ranks forces you to be attacking the monster 90% of the mission lest you run out of time. Getting hit not only means you might die, but that you lose time you could be dealing damage. 99.999% of the player base has not even attempted to do such a thing, so complaining about difficulty is pointless. Flexing gave the game character sure but it didnt actually add any difficulty beyond when youre still learning.

Pulsebar im not a huge fan of though. I really liked not knowing how much damage I was doing and all that. Makes the game feel like more of an actual hunt than any other rpg bossfight where you instantly know if your dps is lacking.

>>381209687
Healing has no flexing this time around but at least it's a heal-over-time and you are slowed down while drinking the pot.

They compensated having no flexing with this, it'd kind of like soul stones in DaS2.

Pulsebar is not for health but for sound or some shit.

There's no real anime shit from what I've seen either... LS has some new cool moves that make them play like a Samurai or some shit but that's about it. Nothing like flashy hunting styles in this game.

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>>381211380

Monster hunter fans in no way dislike change.
every single Monster Hunter has changed (underwater combat, climbing mechanics, hyper monsters, hunting arts in generations) but we embraced them because the core gameplay stayed the same, if it aint broke dont fix it?

This game takes a lot of the foundation and just makes it plain worse, so we are worried

>>381218673

MLRS

>>381218452
>>MH finally changes ONCE in a decade
>What is swimming
>What is mounting
>What is verticality
>What is arts/styles

>>381218296
Actually, one game did sell over a million, and it was FFXV. It just squeaked by on digital sales. The last time it was in the media create top 20 it had 940k physical sales.

>>381209687
When will the ''Muh Generations is casual" meme die?

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>MH with Trophies

Hold me bros.

>>381210907
That was a light Bowgun in the trailer dude

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>Capcom
>A company well known for outsourcing their games and converting them into westernized trash
>People aren't allowed to be the least bit worried

>>381218673
Looks like Kinsect, maybe they arn't tied to specific insect glaives anymore and can just use whatever kinsect with whatever IG?

>>381213829
Blood splatter is confirmed.

>>381213571

It is the E3 demo.

>>381218989
FF is also arguably much bigger in Japan than MH
https://my.mixtape.moe/qvrdqj.png

>>381209687
so, actually awesome changes.

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>>381218036
I understand, anon. It's no wonder MHW's changes appeal to you.

>>381218048
Japan has notoriously shit taste, though. Just go look at their taste in JRPGs or Gundams if you need proof.

>>381218452
>nobody complained
umm, lots of people complained. I complained.

>>381218673
Tonfas

>>381219064
Bottom leftmost is baguette

>>381214132
The only people that would get upset by having to think about WHEN to heal are people who are too shit and stupid

>alright I just got hit, let me just take a sip a- WTF COME ON I GOT HIT AGAIN WHILE DRINKING CAUSE I CAN'T MOVE! I PRESSED BUTTONS AND NOTHING HAPPENED!
>never occurred to the guy to wait until there is an OPENING to use pots

>>381209808
I didn't know monster attacks going right through you was "fluid and snappy" gameplay

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>>381218452
>MH finally changes ONCE in a decade
>he forgot how hard people bitched when MHTri added swimming, removed weaposn while refining others and only had new monsters
>he forgot about mounting/verticality in MH4U
>he forgot about how divisive hunter arts and styles were

>>381219498
>tfw everyone complained about underwater combat
>tfw you were a lance fag

feels good man

>>381219323
>Tonsfas.
Literally my best friends wet dream. if it is he will be so happy he might put down money for a instant preorder.

>>381219463
This. That shit was frustrating as well in the beginning for me but it actually helped me become more situationally aware and remember the monster's patterns for an opening. Only casual retards would ever complain about this.

>>381216251
>Scout flies
They reason they exist is because there is now a system where you actually have to go find the monster, which hasn't existed before (monster always spawened in the same area, paintball it once and done, psychoserum if you want)
So no, because before there was nothing, scout flies and going on "hunt" actually make the game harder

>walking while healing
Natural evolution of the game getting harder. The only fucking reason stopping to heal worked in the first place is because monster used to move in retardedly predictable ways.
(E.g. Truns 2x then charges, tail whip exactly this far, etc.)
You could predict attacks and movement down to their angle, no longer possible now cause everything is more fluid and unpredictable, the game got harder. Make sense that you can heal while moving now.
You used to have to stop to heal in Dark Souls 1 (Souls bosses are literally monster hunter bosses) but were able to heal while moving in every other Souls game, and guess what, Dark Souls 1 is the easiest one by fucking far. (except demons duh)

>Changing equipment at base camp
Natural evolution of the game now being on consol/PC. Hunts aren't supposed to take 15-20 minutes anymore, you're supposed to stay in the mission area way longer now, hunt multiple different things. It's not like you'd change weapon mid hunt on a single monster, once you know it's weakness you're always gonna use the weapon best suited for it, literally the only thing this takes away is the loading screen after quitting to town to change your gear.
This is a good change, nothing changes on difficulty.

As someone who put 3000 hours into MH series this seriously looks great and my boggest gripes are cosmetic issues like no blood on hit.

But otherwise I see great game here.

Only absolute idiots would argue the flexing or zero indication where the Mons HP is were good things.

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>>381219463
This guy gets it. I don't know how they'd handle themselves when they can't just run into another area.

>>381219794
>no longer possible now cause everything is more fluid and unpredictable, the game got harder.
This got brought up in another thread so i feel like i need to reply again, i really don't think thats the case.
Looking at the rathalos in what we have been shown so far he still has the same timing he has had in previous games, i predicted most of his moves during the gameplay.
I mean this could be just for the demo but it looked like we still had all the same turns and distances as before.

>>381219498
>removed weapons
Dont act like this was a good thing in any way

>>381209687
Good, I was looking for a casual hunting game

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>>381219323
They have a semi similar shape, good possibility

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>>381218673

I really hope PCfags won't cheat like in every fucking online game.

Unless there is no crossplay, then all is good.

So is MH World getting styles like Generations did? I want my aerial hammer.

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>>381219908
As someone who's put 5k hours into the series as a whole I disagree, the gameplay of MH was the closest there ever was to a game of chess in an action game and the changes they've made get rid of a lot of that so its not as hard for newcomers.

I don't know how you can argue that brainless environmental traps are a good thing.

>>381220524
>I really hope PCfags won't cheat like in every fucking online game.
Faggots cheat on the 3DS, whats going to stop them on PC?

>>381214245

Of course the winged ones definitely will. I'm calling an upgraded moveset for most of them.

Imagine Narga zipping around not just laterally but diagonally as well, like Maximum Spider. Like, he'd jump to a wall and then swipe you.

>>381220585
>Faggots cheat on the 3DS
Example in MH?

>>381214690
I always saw it as village was the tutorial and the health of the monsters was halved, makes a little easier farming too.
I remember playing with some friends of friends who only ever hunted as a pair and they couldn't function when the monster was targeting them, they had to sheath and just fucking run.

>>381220042
I just woke up when i was watching that stream but i noticed quite fast forward cone fire spray and some forward tail whip on Rathalos, maybe i wasn't woke enough idk
Either way, let's not pretend we were expecting some hardcore merciless murdershow on Low Rank showcase demo

>>381220645
Mostly people editing their armor sets to have ridiculous skills that just aren't possible on the actual set or any clown suit.

>>381220621
>Narga
Not a reptile, can't be in MHW

>>381220573
>MH
>chess

Lmao we are reaching autism town here.
Monsters have braindead patterns, all challenge comes from overcoming your character which is clunky shit on purpose.

Give more mobility and make monsters more ferocious.

>>381220810
Oh i get that, thats why I am still cautious about it, rathalos looking the same can be chalked up to a number of things, maybe they wanted to keep a familiar monster with familiar moves, maybe toned down just for the tech demo, maybe its just low rank and in high rank he ramps up.
Unfortunatly we won't know for sure for a while.

>>381209687
Wait now we can see when the monster is about to die? Well that's boring.

>>381220573
What's so terribly different about luring a monster into a trap that's already there than luring a monster into a trap you place your self, enviromental interaction is a great addition. this isn't even new. Same thing as making a basarios run into exploding rocks, or making a diabolos run into a wall so he gets stuck.

I've played like 500h+ on every MH since Freedom 1, and this game seriously looks like the best thing to happen to the series in a while. Make Monster Hunter feel more like the old intro cutscenes, actually going on a "Hunt", and stop to try and turn it into a character action game. They can do that with Dragon's Dogma and I'll happily enjoy that, but this isn't what monster hunter is about.

>>381216251

The devs explained in the demo earlier today that they added the scout flies because they found themselves getting lost because of the new core concept they wanted to implement, 探索/search.

What's good about this is, say you can turn off scout flies or not "use" them; then you can follow prints and saliva trails on your own, though you'd likely often run out of quest time.

I kinda wish they just integrated that bit to the Felynes. Give em that hunting dog aspect.

>>381220573
>chess
More like simon says, monsters get predictable as fuck after a few hunts.

>>381221050
>Wait now we can see when the monster is about to die?
We always were. You'd knew if you'd played any MH

>>381220573

>traps that are immovable and require certain triggers
>brainless
>compared traps you can set WHEREVER you want and trigger as soon as the monster steps on them

Spotted the casual.

>>381209687

> Option between 144p gameplay and some minor changes.

I'm not sold on them myself, but, fuck it, at least it's not on the 3DS.

>>381214514
>Rest of the world liked DmC
No they didn't. Are you retarded?

>>381220938
>>381221246
>I play games I don't enjoy
How am I not surprised

>>381218673
>>381218857

You can probably change Slingers. I'd say Slingers.

>>381221189
Wouldn't work for Felynes cause you're not always partnered with one, like when you go online. I like the new system, but I think the flys being all over your screen all the time is too much, I feel like they could have found a more suptle way to help you find shit.

>>381219463
Exactly this
Monster Hunter let's you a carry metric fuckload of healing items at a time, it's rare that anyone would actually die from running out of healing items unless you're doing one of those crazy 5 monster, 2 at a time in the arena solo quests.
When you die it's because you fucked up and got hit by too many things in a row and didn't time your healing right.

By completely removing flexing and letting you heal at nearly full walk speed any difficulty is gone. Oh you got hit by rajang and need to heal? No worries, if he tries to fuck beam you just walk away lol.
Got poisoned by garuga and gotta take an antidote? Ez pz, you can just walk to the side if he tries to charge you while healing.
There's only 2 types of people that would think flexing is bad, retards who have never played monster hunter and shitters who suck hot rajang dick at monster hunter.

>>381221050
OP is a retard. You can find out when any monster is going to die in any of the older MonHuns.

>>381210509

>game is 10/10 because it's casualized

I bet you think Fallout 3 is good as well

>>381218896
You can turn off the numbers so its a non issue yo

Pulsebar is good, captures wont be as much of a guessing game for some monsters. Always avoided capture missions because It was such a huge waste of time is some idiot forgot what was going on. Which sadly seems to always be the case.

>>381221651
>make retarded comparison to elevate simple game

Talk dumb shit, get hit.

They're pretty much just immobile versions of traps we already have
They likely won't matter in high ranking hunts because itd be a massive waste of time to lure the monster to do a little bit of extra damage

>>381221558
>"MHW feels like you're actually hunting"
>"b- but environmental traps are better than traps you set up yourself"
Do you just praise every aspect of MHW without thinking about your own contradictions?

>>381221651
I love MH, but its not chess, chess requires strategy and planning ahead. Monsterhunter you react to an animation. The fun in it for me is trying to get as much uptime as possible attacking with DS while not getting hit. The game is mostly reaction and muscle memory.

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>>381221189
Did they at least say if paintballs are still in?

I know you can not use scout flies, but I still kinda want paintballs.

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>>381221606
Ah yeah forget MH XX Switch exists...

1080p 60fps in docked. 720p 60fps handheld.

Anyone got the stream link on hand?

>>381221949
>"I'm looking forward to a game in a series I never found enjoyable."
The only loser here is you, anon.

>>381222010

>implying going after the kill isn't tons more fun than placing a trap and bait and waiting for a catch

Casual.

>>381222010
Now you faggots resort to putting words in other people's mouth to "prove" your point?
Can you get any more desperate and pathetic?

>>381209687
All those things sound postive to me.
Op, I think you are a faggot, go play the older games if you dont want new shit

>>381222194

Not in English though.

>>381222358
>the hunter placing traps himself is a casual aspect of the game
>being this assblasted
>trying to detract from the topic

IT'S NOT A REAL MONHUN IF IT DOESN'T DEFORM ONE OF YOUR EXTREMITIES

>>381218930
>we are worried
I love how all of these posts tend to be people who ignore the environmental and AI changes.
These also seem to be the people who couldn't see this was the next MH game within the first few seconds of the trailer. Honestly if you thought this was a spinoff during the trailer/e3 at all you probably don't know MH.

>>381222520
>EOP
>In a series thats easy as fuck to play in japanese

pleb.
Enjoy your more casualised MH more casual than XX

>>381222549

>the topic is the brainlessness of environmental traps
>make a proper comparison to placeable traps
>detracting

>>381222289
He's just being level-headed. You're the one narcisstically implying MH is some 4D chess for enlightened.

>>381222549
At least follow the reply chain before embarassing yourself, retard

>>381222696
>praise brainless environmental traps
>say traps placed by the hunter are casual
>"b-but you're putting words in my mouth!!"

>>381222690
It's more the fact I live in England, and so shipping would take literally the time it'd take for MHW to come out, so, may as well just play that.

Probably play both at some point though. Not keen on arts and shit though.

>>381222879

>you have to think how to use environmental traps
>placeable traps you just place whenever and wherever you want

Placeable traps are brainless and casual. Try again.

>>381222954
You can make a Japanese eShop account easily and just buy it digitally off the Japanese eShop.
I did this with Disgaea 5.

>>381222726
>the closest thing to chess in an action game
>implying I mean MH is exactly like chess

>>381222849
>"l-lets talk about this other thing!!"

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>>381209687
>no more flexing
GOOD
fucking hate that shit.
even other games dont do that and it still makes them hard.

>>381221189
Any detail from the devs about the heartbeat radar?

>>381223023
>monster runs into vines
>monster positions himself below a hanging pile of rocks
>but placing traps, an actual hunting aspect, is the casual ways of doing traps

>>381223065

Didn't know they did full games on the eShop. Well, there we go then.

>>381209687
>can cancel eating and drinking
Not sure how I feel about this
>no more flexing
Thank fucking god. It feels like the stupidest and most unintuitive shit in the world to get bodied because your character has a post drink wank session mid fight.

>>381222879
Not the same guy but they are pretty casual, especially in multiplayer where a good team of only two can catch a monster with a flash into a trap into a KO into another trap. You just killed the monster without it ever getting a chance to even attempt an attack.

>>381223096

>MH
>requiring any strategy
>not just rote memorization of movesets

There are players who prep so hard for their hunts and yet still only manage to finish near the end of the timer. That's what you are, strategist.

>>381223324
Yeah they do.

Did it with Disgaea 5 as I said as it was already in English.

Just got some JP eShop cards off PlayAsia and redeemed them in store

My biggest problem with people complaining about the moving while healing, was that the Insect Glaive could do that iirc.

What's the problem with them extending that to everyone?

>>381220573
>3k
>5k
>A lot of time for MH
come back when you have learned what hunting is

>>381223301
Not him but placing a trap right where the monster is seems a lot more convenient than luring it across the map to stun it for a few seconds

>>381223301

>runs into
>positions himself
>implying the hunter didn't lure it there
>implying the hunter didn't rage it first to bait it
>placeable traps you can just plop when the monster is distracted by someone else or a felyne

Yeah it's casual, easymode.

>>381223096
Not tired of making an assclown out of yourself yet?
>"MHW feels like you're actually hunting"
Find this line you were "refuting" in the reply chain, downie.

>>381209687
>more casual than fucking generations/XX

more casual than games with the hardest monsters to date?

mkay

next time try at least a bit to not show that you never touched xx

>>381223350
>>381223372
>>381223536
Have you anons never played a single monster hunter game?
What's all that nonsense you're spouting?

>>381223495

If you were playing with 4 people, there was a whole bunch of ways to heal whilst in combat.

Hunting Horn, SnS with Wide-Range, healing horn, pallicos, etc.

If healing was something that only happened when you were still, this might be a big change. But, as it is, monster hunter has been making healing easier every game they've released.

>>381223574
Shhh they wouldnt know...

They havent done the mantis yet.

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>>381218452
>MH finally changes ONCE in a decade
You do know there were other games after FU right? That changed MH a bunch of times? Underwater combat, mounting combat, the many changes to gather resources, the style/ arts shit; ring any bells?
Oh but since the graphics are nicer now you notice, now it's a change.
You dumbass vain motherfucker.

>>381223757
it fucking makes me mad because i dont even like gen/xx, but for different reasons

but people saying that shit are flat out stupid and just didnt play the games

>>381223731
Jeez, I mostly played solo, but if there were so many ways to heal, all the guys complaining are retarded.

SOMEONE POST THE GODDAMN STREAM LINK
I DON'T WANT TO GIVE SHEKELS TO REUPLOADERS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I love the doble savage deviljho in arena
>be gunlance
>charge mini wyv
>mistake
>punished
>shield like a bitch
>poke
>mistake
>punished

There should be more arena missions or arena to get more rank so pussies dont leave the area to fucking heal

OK, here it is for other anons:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvKE9iVz-Ig

>>381223301

vines are just like the walls where you can make Diablos get stuck, except it probably works on anything

the rocks still need you to time the drop, and if you're directly under it you probably need to get the fuck away (if it doesn't hurt you then i'll be disappointed)

>>381223976

Yeah, since 3U, hunting horn has been able to heal whilst attacking. Admittedly, it's probably not a good idea, but, it's a step above doing it whilst moving slowly.

In Tri, I played a SnS with wide-range who carried a bunch of healing items and basically just healed people who got hit, meaning nobody ever had to leave combat to heal.

Was some good shit.

>>381223705
Are you retarded? I've played every game in the series extensively sans original Tri. Traps have always been easy OP shit. Hell in F/FU you could pitfall a monster (or sonic a diablos), KO while it is in the pitfall, it would enter KO for massive free damage then the pitfall animation would reset after the KO and it would continue to flail about for more free damage.
In Gen, thanks to the addition of full house for gunners, you can trap a monster, hit it with two or 3 stun shots to bring it right to it's stun threshold, full house to go back to DPS then as it flies out of the trap switch back to the fully loaded set of stuns shoot it one more time and stun it out of the air. The monster falls down, goes into the knock down animation, resets to a neutral position then goes into the paralysis.
Traps are OP and easy as fuck to use.

>>381209687
I missed it. Can someone give me a quick rundown on EVERYTHING that was revealed?

>>381214147

Everyone hated DmC because it was a complete reboot to a franchise that didn't need rebooted.

DMC 4 was genuinely well liked throughout the community despite having a major change in the main character. No one knew who the fuck Nero was but the addition of a "grab" feature made the game fresh.

Turning Dante into a brooding emo prick is what tanked DmC.

>>381223705

All I ever needed to know about a monster was:

>its movesets
>special triggers
>weakness element
>its sleeping place (paintball takes care of that)
>its eating place (paintball)
>breakables (only ever needed to know it for drop tables)

The first two are important to the fight, the third one somewhat, but can be ignored depending on which weapon you use, while the rest are immaterial to it.
There are a few exceptions with breakables though.

Most of the game is about knowing your prey and timing. The movesets are well telegraphed with the monster roars, most of them at least, so you should be able to dodge them. It's like bullfighting. A lot of being aware about the monster, its position etc. is needed.

I'm sure you've seen videos of Lance/GL users just walking to dodge Diablos' attacks. That's not strategy at all in action, that's knowing the movesets intimately.

>>381209808
Removing strategy from combat encounters is in no way a good thing, being able to cancel heals defeats the purpose of having a healing animation to begin with. Healing should be a strategic move, not a right without consequence. This may eventually lead into combat animation cancelling too which would further remove the deliberate nature of the combat that people played it for to begin with. Not even Dark Souls has casualized shit this quickly.

>>381214147
Change isn't always a good thing, DmC is proof. Only autists dislike good change.

>>381214147

>DmC is a big FUCK YOU to Devil May Cry

it didn't "change" (it was still a bout a Dante who killed demons with sword and gun combos) as much as it made a mockery of itself

>>381223574
>hardest monsters
>easiest mechanics
If they didnt have hunting styles it may actually be a challenge. Glad to see Capcom knows when they fucked up and wont include shit mechanics in another game, Just like underwater fighting.

>>381224464
Have you played G rank? Or Descent into Hades or Clashing fists? Traps don't make a bit of a difference and they're finite along with everything you mentioned.

>>381225096
Fuck off
Water battles were cool

>>381225096
>hunting styles
They're optional you dont have to use them you moron.

>>381225270
said no one ever

>>381223976
All of those methods are unreliable, either for taking even longer than a regular potion to pull off, having a weaker effect than most healing items, or both

Sns just has the ability to use items while unsheathed, the consumption speed and effect is still the same, and palicos with healing horns are infamously unreliable and will usually start playing their big healing song while you're already dead on the ground

>All 14 weapons are in
Is there a chance that new weapons to be in the game?

>>381225096
Underwater gave me some of my favorite monsters from the entire series, a shame that underwater combat had to be such a shit show.

>>381225475
during one of the E3 streams the community managers were talking about weapons and one was like wonder if new weapons are in and the other sort of just put his hands up like "oh shit why did you say that" So its possible but who knows

>>381225475
https://twitter.com/MHKogath/status/877125670765080576

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>>381225365
>water battles cool
Wew found the moron, literally the most uneeded addition to MH. Everyone but delusional Tri fags know this.
>>381225270
Cool you don't have to wear mixed sets but I would love to see them fucking gone yo. Shit mechanics are shit mechanics and people will abuse them regardless and fuck with online play. It shits up the community and mentality of how people hunt. Its not hard to tell who is mechanically a shitty hunter, but they sure as hell don't get punished for it as much.
I bet you were ok with kelbi bow you filthy degenerate

>>381225643
>Upgrade the kinsect separate from the IG
Pretty good.

>>381225905
Gen already lets you do this

XX added the option to swap bugs between glaives

>>381225643
I guess there is still hope if there is another row of weapons below what is shown

>>381226034
Didn't know that XX added that.
Hope it gets localized 'eventually'

>>381225905
Pretty sure that's just speculation with no confirmation
You can still see the IG symbol and its the same w the bug and all.

I rather think its going to be the slinger that can be upgraded, or a new weapon...maybe that Hunting companion they had concept art for.

>>381226169
I want there to be something like gauntlets or something. I want to punch a Brachydios. Or use Brachydios gauntlets.

>>381226304
I, too, want gauntlets. Not this tonfa stuff
I want a weapon that is like DBs, but is impact based for KOing monsters, roll punches that drain stamina and a light block, same strength as the SnS.

>>381226304
Hmm gauntlets could work as a hammer-DB cross, fast paced lower stun damage. Could be a cool weapon

>>381226304
I'd personally like a polearm without shield, a faster movement than Lance long range weapon, like a halberd

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not a fan of the new potion animation/how fast you can run while drinking. i liked those fights against really vicious mons where you just had to spend a minute at next-to-no hp while you looked for an opening.

besides that, everything looks fucking fantastic. fingers crossed they change the new potion-drinking to something that requires a little more consideration

also i liked water combat and would not mind seeing it again, so long as they fixed some of the weapons (poor underwater SnS)

>>381209687
>>can cancel healing/eating
>>no more flexing
Oh no they removed the artificial difficulty.Casuals are still going to hate it because they can't wombo combo a dinosaur first try and the first two hours is picking berries and bug catching.

>>381226723
So the IG

https://my.mixtape.moe/qvrdqj.png

Hey newfags, how do you think capcom is planning to sell any meaningful amount of copies on these dead systems? Even 4U in the west sold more than the highest selling game on these platforms in japan

>>381226863
Well, I guess. I just don't like the kinsect and pogo jumping bullshit

>>381226942
Don't worry anon, master race is there to save the day

>>381227135
>pirates saving the industry
?

>>381227243

Japs don't pirate games.

Too dishonrabu

>>381227243
>Pirating a co-op multiplayer game
??

>>381227135
>Master race I is here to buy 100k copies then wait for a 50% off sale to buy another 300k copies then wait for an 80% off sale to buy 400k copies
>Then claim it sold 800k on PC making it the best selling platform!

>>381227380

>playing multiplayer Monster Hunter

What the fuck.

>>381226942
Monster Hunter will sell an additional 2 million PS4s in Japan alone.
Screencap this, it'll sell at least 2M in Japan, only retard butthurt nintendies think otherwise.

>>381227479
I don't see the problem. Do psbros and xdrones not take advantage of sales?

>>381224659

>he likes the feeling of losing control of the character and being locked in an animation

For what purpose?

>>381227729
Pfffffthahahaha
Name the last console game to sell 2m in Japan.

>>381227706
>He doesn't group hunt
But why?

>>381227813
Sales only count if they are the $60 full price

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>>381227706
>He doesn't hunt with friends
neither do I cuz my friends don't like the grind

>>381227729
>only retard butthurt sonybros think this will actually happen

>>381227813
The funniest thing is that, for example, they had automata on sales while pc didn't, and that's not the only case for sure.

>>381227857
If you hit the inputs then it is hardly losing control of your character

>>381209808
There shouldn't be a ui element devoted to telling you when a monster is low health. It's not fluid and snappy to be braindead and still win in what's supposed to be a fantasy hunting game.

>>381227952
>he enjoys playing with fags.

>>381227813
Okay I screenshotted your post to add to my butthurt collage for when it sells like shit.
How're those resident evil 7 sales again? You know, Capcom's main franchise catered to the west for this installment?

>>381228160
>not getting a handjob from your bro while hunting

>>381228249
What the hell has that to do with what he said? Why are you mhw haters always so rabid and retarded?

>>381227857
>He asks a question that is answered in the very post he's responding too

>>381228249
I think you're missing the point

>>381225876
U should check ur quotes.
Now people want hunter to have advantage

>>381216075
There are some maps where you cannot go to a different area, these are typically the more endgame areas

>>381219032
No it wasn't it was a heavy bowgun doing the special rapid fire.

>>381227973

>gonna introduce my friends to MonHun through this
>I know they'll give up as soon as i tell them "now you do this again alone until you get x number of this thing"

>>381218704
>love MH
>first trailer made me worried cause they just showed off the new shit that made the game seem casualized
>demo is inspiring confidence and am now excited to see more
I would have liked to have seen MH on the switch since i like meeting up at a friends house and doing hunts even though online is thing but if it's on pc it shouldn't be too bad.

>>381224470
WATCH THE VIDEO

>>381230131
Honestly, if they can't get hooked on the combat, it's a lost cause. The grind is bearable because hunting monsters is engaging and learning their tells/making an armor to counter them is fun

>>381227729
2 million on a 65 million consoles is a flop

>>381218930
But all the stuff you listed isn't change, They are just added features. All those thing only added to the existing familiar gameplay

If it was really change then the core gameplay itself would have been altered like the gameplay between Street Fighter IV and Street Fighter V.

>>381209687
>>anime shit is back
it was never gone

>>381227729
>Monster Hunter will sell an additional 2 million PS4s in Japan alone.
LMAO not even FF XV sold over 1 million in Japan. No PS4 game has sold over 1 million in Japan.

>>381227729
KEK

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Monster Hunter is an interesting series because it is a very deliberate one. The games are less about flashy action and more about intimately knowing the monsters movesets and your own. It is more like a dance between the monster(s) and the player. There is a "weight" and slowness to all of your actions but the monsters are obvious once you know their patterns. The slowness even extends outside of the hunting, for example when changing items in you inventory there is always a sort of delay after you do an input.

I'm not sure what people have against the flex animation. It fits within the tone of the series and is obviously there to make the player have to find the right time to heal. You can say that the player can just change areas but what about when you are in the arena or the later maps? Leaving the area is not always an option unless you have a farcaster of which you can only bring one.

I dunno, maybe my opinion is biased since the lance is my favorite weapon, I'm always moving deliberately. Still, I think that in terms of the mechanics the series is closer to Punch-Out than it is to DMC, because tells and patterns are king

>>381217169
if you left area or waited for monster to leave you are bad at healing and need to tri harder

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>>381218704
>iktf all too well
>friend who barely manages to make it to HR and never made it to G telling me it looks good

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>>381209687
None of your nitpicks matter when the gameplay we've seen still looks awesome as fuck, and frankly I think weapons getting new attacks is a GOOD thing and spices up the gameplay a bit.
Stop pretending this series has ever been a super hardcore fest like what Souls fags do.

>>381230131
>not letting them experience the boss solo and then speed farming
literally wtf is wrong with you

>>381232789
I hope CB is mostly unchanged. It's attack flow was very good

>muh moving while healing
Yeah because there's no zones anymore and the monster AI is more aggressive and prone to chase you. How about you fucking think about why a change is there before you complain needlessly?

>>381233136
If you need to move whilst healing then youre a casual fuckhead.

If you read the monsters moves well enough you dont have to fucking leave the zone to heal.

>>381234079
>muh "I'm a hardcore man" fallacy
The AI has literally been changed to chase you more and be more aggressive. You're thinking based on old AI that would happily spin in place for you and attack nothing while you go heal.

>>381234490
>The AI has literally been changed to chase you more and be more aggressive.
And to run into environmental traps by itself too lol

>>381232980

dude I mean that the moment they learn about droprates and the desire sensor, they'll fuck right off if they don't catch on the thrill of the hunt before it happens

everyone latches onto the series for different reasons, then stick with it mostly for the hunt and the test it represents, personally, I tried the series but didn't stick with it until Tri showed up,I just loved both the Barioth's design and the Barioth Girl armor

>>381234802
>leading mechanics
>by itself
Who hurt you so much that you need to desperately hope a game to be bad?

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>>381234079
>If you read the monsters moves well enough you dont have to fucking leave the zone to heal.
If you'd actually read monsters tell well enough you wouldn't need to heal, casul.

At this point I feel like you need to proof that you even play monhun with screenshots of over 800hours to even have an opinion on this game. So much shitposting.

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mfw all this complaining about "causalization" but the japs are loving the changes

even clapping to it

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hol up
>installs updates
hol up
>pirates games
is you sayin'
>chugs an entire gallon of Mt Dew
is you SAYIN'
>Gets 200 FPS
we finna be
>Heats his entire house by 10 degrees
some finna PC MASSA RACE???

>>381235376
And yet it wont even sell a million in Japan.
Not even FFXV did on both platforms.

Console gaming is dead in Japanland

>>381224659
>Not even Dark Souls has casualized shit this quickly.

Didn't they add moving while using estus in Dark souls 2? Literally the same thing

>>381231007
>half the population of japan owns a ps4
source?

>>381235376
Casualization was always targeted towards Japs. They're all absolute shitters who suck ass at the game.

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>>381231007
>>381235785

>>381235542
yeah but the MH team wants to evolve the game, they just cant do it with the 3ds anymore

I swear they're gonna need CUTSCENES and SEXY GIRLS to get the westerner's attention

>>381236023
Well they could have evolved it on Switch. You know the console everyone in Japan is going to get.
Japan is handheld land through and through.

>>381236230
>Upscaled 3DS port
>WOW THEY COULDNT EVOLVE IT BECAUSE THEY HAVENT TRIED

Are you dumb.

100% grantee MHXX on switch will sell drastically more than MHW in japan.

>>381209687
But it's on PS4 and not the switch so it will look good and be mechanically sound.

>>381235796
Japanese players are on average better than western ones. All the best combo and skill videos are from Japanese players.
You're a deluded faux-hardcore shitter trying to act like he knows what he's talking about with the game

>>381236558
You have no idea about handhelds or mobile in japan do you?

No one plays games on PS4, Xbox or PC in Japan

>>381221918
I bet you haven't seen Fallout 4 then.

>>381236370
>MHXX on switch will sell drastically more than MHW in japan
Man I still can't wrap my head around why Capcom isn't releasing it on the switch, it seems like such a win-win, I know it's not the graphical limitations cause MHW doesn't look so taxing

>>381236661
You're the retarded one who only thinks they're better from watching cherry picked TA videos.
There's a handful of top tier Jap players that are amazing but on average they're far worse than western players because 90% of them are dick sucking casuals.
It's called the CoD of Japan for a reason.

Why do so many people compare MHW to DmC, as if they're even remotely the same? Are people THIS desperate to see it fail?

>>381236887
people aren't comparing the gameplay you inbred

>>381221760
Confirmed Kinsect by CM

>>381236827
Capcom never really make good decisions when they aim for a western demograph Dmc and LP3 are two examples hopefully with world they learned from their error.

>>381237309
Circumstancially as well

>>381236887

they wanna say the change is "drastic" like that

but that would only be true if MonHun literally turned into God Eater and kept the same name

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I wanna hear the sincere opinions of my hammerbros about this new hammer move.

It looks extremely fucking shitty, I rather have the aerial superpound + super golfswing

>>381233136
>Yeah because there's no zones anymore
This argument is so retarded, are people really so bad at MH that the only way they ever heal is to switch areas? I don't even leave the area to sharpen, specially in later games where you have palicoes to occasionally distract the monster.

>>381237929
>Anime styles fucking ruined MHX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>MHW looks like change and wont have them!!!!
>See this

SONY FAGS BTFO

>>381225876
>Cool you don't have to wear mixed sets but I would love to see them fucking gone yo.
So you can't equip armor until you have the entire set or something? I honestly don't understand what people have against clown suiting.
I play the game for the gameplay and nothing else. The story is fucking pathetic, and the forced cinematics in 4u were game ruining.

>>381231007
>2 million on a 65 million consoles is a flop
You are a fucking idiot.

>>381238634
Not him but that's a terrible attachment rate. Though it all really depends on the games budget. 2 million sales for a fan base of 50-60 million does sound pretty shitty, though.

>>381238856
Expect that the fanbase isn't 50-60 million when the overwhelming majority of them wouldn't have bought that kind of game in any case. Nintendo fags keep screaming how the majority of those 60 millions is made by FIFA idiots, CoD mongs, hollywodian cinematic experience retards, and then suddenly there are 60 millions of potential monhun fans on playstation. That's not how it works, a potential niche isn't the fucking total of the community.
And before someone try to call me sonyfag, I explained this concept many times to the sony niggers that infest PC port threads.

>>381237929
Looks hilarious I like it

>>381231512
What if drinking a potion while running heals you slowly while stopping to chug and flex heals quickly?

>>381220884
Dinosaurs aren't reptiles either.