Be honest, does anyone actually enjoy Gwent? I hated it in Witcher

I do, gonna be burned out pretty soon though

>>381201159
Not really. I played it and it's barely interactive. It's like you and your opponent are assembling your own jigsaw puzzle and then whoever has the highest number at the end wins. Repeat this 3 times.

The game would have actually worked better rethemed with gardening/farming in mind. Not hard to imagine it with whoever has the most valuable crops or plants winning

>>381201159
I cannot get into online card games due to the whole buying of card packs thing. It's just too exploitive for my taste. I enjoyed TW3 version of Gwent though even if there were some winning strategies NPCs just couldn't counter.

>>381201159
I do, game itself is fine. But "Free" to play bullshit quickly turned me off.

>>381202000
Gwent isn't even officially released yet and it's getting up there with being just as jewish as Hearthstone has become recently. You get ONE (1) Free Pack when you start playing Gwent.

Good Job CDProjekt trying to keep players interested and tinkering with your game by starving them of material to play around with

>>381202329
At least other tcg are subtle about pay2win, gwent is literally "higher number = better"

Also, high number cards are also immune to special effects and shit, so you can't even tictac around them

>>381202619
Another funny thing is when I tuned in to some Gwent streams to scout out the game, it was pretty boring shit because most of the time, the streamer would play a card and the only thing that would happen is the number counter on the left side would change. And they think people actually want to watch something like that over and over? That;s garbage. I can't imagine how a tournament would keep people's attention

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>>381202619
???

>>381201159
I think of the recent card games Elder Scrolls Legends has the best gameplay and Gwent has the most interesting deck building. However, due to how you have a set draw of about 10 cards per game, it's so heavy on deck building that it almost feels like the game is decided there moreso than in how you use your cards in a match.

>>381203068
Triple Triad was objectively better.

>>381203523
>Have to spend an entire card not to remove the power from a gold card but just to be able to play a second card to lower or remove it's power to get an advantage

Jesus Christ. Maybe if this was an aoe or drew a card to replace itself or was attached to a body. This is why Gwent sucks desu.

itt: brainlets

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>>381203952
>Maybe if this was an aoe
???

>>381204174
>The first card
>Existing

Lmao

>>381201778
Very accurate.

>>381201159
Nah but I never bothered to learn it. I just skipped it everytime they forced me to play it Witcher 3. I always hate these in-game games

>>381201159

Djent?

>>381201778

This is accurate. I don't necessarily hate Gwent, but it's basically "push big numbers and hope your RNG beats out their RNG." There's very little tactics involved.

Just look at how fucked the game is with them changing Weather (which is smart, IMO given how OP some of the cards were/are) and other such bullshit in later patches.

>>381203819
Get ff14 then, it has shitloads of triple triad in it

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tfw nekker consume is the most fun deck

>>381204909
If you think there's no strategy or tactics involved in Gwent then you're a braindead mong desu.

>>381204909
>>381203952
>>381202619
>>381202329
>>381201778
>reddit spacing
>samefagging
Show on a doll where Gwent touched you

>>381205063
Wording this. Just watch some of the games from the recent big CDPR tourney.

Or play the game and try do well with that attitude senpai

If you play monsters then literally kill yourself this very moment.

>>381201159

Second go advantage in rounds is also huge, now that I think of it. Sure, "win the first round" is important, but if you go second in said first round you can (if you beat their bigger numbers) generally be up 1-3 cards when they pass/lose.

Same if you go second, so long as you play smart (even if you lose the first round intentionally to get card advantage if you got coin flipped to go first) you can beat the enemy because of it.

Gwent itself needs a fundamental rework overall to actually be interactive/multiplayer. They're trying to shoe-horn the AI/Witcher 3 version and it simply doesn't work with actual human players.

>>381201159

Playing this game feels like work. I enjoyed it to begin with, but as of late I just can't motivate myself to slog through even 6 rounds to get daily kegs.

>>381204920
Thanks for the recommend but monthly fees make me puke.

>>381205063
>>381205101

> Being this triggered

lmao at you, fampais.

Tell me, what "tactics" is involved in Gwent. Scorch? Clear Skies (First Light)? Griffin's or it's equivalent for weather spam decks?

Oh, how about Bears that are the current meta and if you don't run counter-Bears, you're probably fucked 90% of the time?

Gwent needs Card-draw and other such things that other card games have. There's issues with retrofitting their single-player card game against AI into an actual card-game against human players.

>>381205156
>Complaining about Monsters
>Not complaining about Skellige
Which patch are you playing?

>>381205334
it's for fun and it's free. you could just not play it.

>>381201159
Shadowverse is unironically a better tcg compared to Gwent and HS.

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>>381205334
>> Being this triggered
The irony.

>They removed Factions.
In to the trash in it goes.

>>381204909
>>381205176
>>381205334
>>381201778
>this spacing.
>32 replies and 22 users
Is this some kind of samefagging anti-shill Gwent thread?

>>381201159
It was p2w as fuck in W3, and I imagine it's the same as its own game.

>>381205351
Shut up. I hate you and your fucking weather cards !!!

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>>381205334
>bears
>meta

I tried to get into it. The deckbuilding and some of the interactions are pretty neat but I just don't really like playing the game.

So much of the time you lose round 1 and then your opponent just makes you both empty your hands in round 2 and then round 3 is just about top decking something bigger. I haven't really played it against good people but I don't really want to grind out ranked games to get to them.

I've just started playing Gwent and i'm part way through the tutorials.
Are there any MUST have cards i need to craft to help keep my head above water or ones that will remain useful?

>>381205926
continue playing until you it lv 10

Played it for a week. Already dropped it after the few first tutorial games since it felt lame. Pushed through it the next day, and it was fun for a litle while.

Afterwards you just notice it is a very easy game and a dick comparing match. Think this game would be better if you just had your whole deck from the start since it already barely is a card game.

>>381206138
It's a deckbuilding game in the wrappings of a standard CCG

>>381206094
Will i want to quit by then?

>>381206240
nope, you will get a fuckton of cards and a gold card at lv 10

>play challenges
>dismantle all monster cards
>build a deck with solid golds

That easy.

>>381206224
Yeah sounds about right.

Still feels the game would be better than to just hard limit the deck at 25 or less and that you draw your whole deck by round 2/3

>>381206224
Yeah I think what it really needs is like a draft phase. Even if it's just a simple winchester draft and then some quick deckbuilding the game would have much more going on.

>>381206520
How to be a faggot: the post

>>381206789
Ascension does this and is overall a way better game.

Gwent just feels as a fail, it fails as a true ccg and as a true board game

>>381206341
That's something to look forward to at least.

>>381205635
>Everyone who doesn't like Gwent is the same person!
LMAO. It's sad that the only "defense" you can muster for your game is "samefag!!!!"

>>381207165
>Gwent just feels as a fail, it fails as a true ccg and as a true board game
Because how the fuck did CDProjekt fail to see that you can't fucking force a mini-game, meant to be a side-activity in an rpg, to become a full-depth card game? It's absolutely dumbfounding.

It's easily the best out of all currently existing CCGs in that strategy makes a huge difference between winning and losing (much more than your average game), and there are many tactics available (though not always viable).

The issue I have with it is that the ladder comes down to whoever has the best legendaries right now. I mean it's the same with every CCG... it's hard to fix unless you force everyone to have the same pool of cards to build their decks from in ladder.

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>>381205334
>Bears

Unfortunately it takes 1-2 months for the game to start to feel truly fair where you have a large amount of powerful cards that'll put you on equal footing with the top players.

The drawback of playing F2P.

But other than that I think it's a fucking fantastic game, I play it every day.

>>381202329
Admittedly you can get 1 free pack per day as opposed to Hearthstone's one free pack every 2.5 days.

It's still Jewish as all hell, but definitely not as Jewish as it could be partcularly when the pack prices' are more fair for us Aussies and our kiwi neighbors

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>>381209459
>>381209332
>>381207992
Gwent is far less jewish than HS. Picrelated is my legendaries after 60 hours of playing. In HS you'd be lucky to have 1 or 2 by that time

>>381209959
I never played HS because I don't play shit games. My criticism of Gwent being a little unfair for a month or two still stands.

>>381209959
It's still in beta phase. They are always more generous during that

I remember Destiny of Spirits being fun in the alpha, then they went so greedy the game died in a week

>>381202329
you can craft a legendary card in 5 or less days, in Hearstone you need more than that to craft a legendary

>>381209959
True but it still suffers from the problem of being railroaded into certain legendaries in order to win the game.

Everyone and their mothers has Geralt igni, Villentretenmerth etc which are no fun to play against.

>>381207992
That is Eternal.

True deckbuilding not limited by factions and fun game modes. And not as greedy as gwent or HS

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*destroys a franchise*

>>381212015
What do you mean? Igni is a huge nofunallowed card, but Borkh is hilarious to play/play against

>>381201159
A lot more fun than the Blizzard p2w one.

>spend 30€
>make Blue Stripes Nothern Realms deck
>it sucks
I still like Gwent more than most other digital card games simply because a match doesnt take that long.

No, but I have never been interested in card games. I did buy the Gwent card set only because I really like the artwork

>tfw CDPR wastes money on making a standalone minigame from their overrated RPG
How long till they become dead?

>>381210606
>the game died in a week
Never heard of that game, but that's fucking hilarious

>>381201159
>Be honest, does anyone actually enjoy Gwent?
So, I liked it in W3, I thought it was a neat little mechanic and fun to collect the cards for a while. Obviously unbalanced for competitive play, since card power was equated to rarity, but fine for what it was.

Unfortunately, the people making the standalone Gwent game completely understood that what made it great was the simple elegance of its core mechanic. Now, of course they needed to do SOMETHING to it to make it balanced for 2-player. But they went totally the wrong direction. Instead of paring it down to its functional core and cutting away all the BS that breaks the game, they added a ton of additional rules and special effects that turn it into more of MTG-esque strategic deckbuilder than the nice little resource-management bluffing game it was originally.

>>381212360
I mean unsurprisingly like every card game there's a meta. Some things are good and some things are shit. If you are complaining about that, it's reasonable, but it also means you're probably going to dislike most / all collectible / living card games.

>>381212061
It's never gonna take off since it has no marketing and /v/ is filled with gullable fools that only follow the hypetrain

>>381212360
It's no faster than hs

>>381214189
In CCGs you 100% need those mechanics, you need the variety, even if it comes at a price.
I disagree with the argument that the game isn't interactive; at least half the cards influences your opponent's side of the board/deck etc, the order in which you play the cards is key.
Problem is, the balance of the game is kind of shit, especially with 2nd player advantage, and a lot of the cards are overdesigned/have too many effects (still not nearly yugioh tier).

>>381212061
>not as greedy as gwent or HS
Gonna need you to elaborate further on that with some examples

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>bunch of dumb kurwas can produce this level of polish

>>381215089
>In CCGs you 100% need those mechanics
If that's the case, then making it a CCG was the mistake.

Maybe they should have used the slow-LCG model and focused on making a really tightly balanced core game first. Or hell, just make a good standalone game and leave it alone. The core mechanic is deep enough to keep people playing for years if it was finely tuned.

>>381201159
It can be good but then again there are so much meme deck that you can't play with reveal Nilfgaard, AKA the most fun deck.

Haven't done my dailes in a week or so for that reason.

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>>381215309
>meanwhile at Blizzard

>>381215309
>level of polish
pun intended?

>>381215237
If you are known with arena of HS. This game has the same but every picked card gets added to your collection.

You can buy a pack atleast daily and contains atleast one rare and 3 uncommens with a total of 12 cards.

No gold limit on grinding ranked or whatever.

Vs ai modes that are cheaper and help starter players build collections

First 5 weeks you get a deck each week which contains quite some rares

>>381215385
Well that card has a gold border so that game is obviously superior. Gwent is shit.

>>381215501
>This game has the same but every picked card gets added to your collection.
What's the cost to enter arena, though? Also I just checked out the game page and it's kinda annoying I have to make another account on top of my Steam account when other games just use your Steam account directly

>>381215726
5x a pack, but considering you get 4x pack while picking and atleast 3 packs for a 0 win run it's better.

And yeah, the extra account is for mobile support

>>381215353

I don't think it needs a CCG (especially as you can't trade currently) nor a LCG model. I just think Gwent needs to change it's mechanics to where it can actually be played in multi-player instead of "abuse all this shit against the AI" like in the Witcher 3 which clearly can't work with actual human players.

Like, honestly: 100% I like Gwent. But it simply doesn't work as a 2-player game currently. They need to play it on table-top and see how much bullshit goes on in an actual tabletop match and then redo the entire game to where it feels like you're playing a table-top match instead of a WRPG mini-game that allowed you to bullshit your way through the minigame.

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Poor man's Caravan, honestly.
Still was fun to fuck around with it.

>>381215884
Sounds like a good deal, but how long does it take to save up for the Arena entry fee? Based on what you said if it's 5x packs, then that's around 5 days? Seems really long time to grind and wait if you really like to play their Arena mode.

>And yeah, the extra account is for mobile support
Man, I'm never gonna play on mobile anyway. I wish they could add a checkbox on the title screen or whatever their login screen is so I can forego having to create an extra account. I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in thinking that way.

>>381201159
116h in, send help.

>>381202329
dud, in 50 hours I had ALL bronzes and half silvers, with recent patch I got about 8 golds instantly

i'm actually worried how they make money at all with such generosity

>>381216319
Depends man, I average at one each 2-3 days. Quests will give you more than half a pack of gold, which you get daily. 3 ranked wins about one third.

Plus the ai mode is like 2.5 packs of gold to enter which is recomended at the start.

>>381201159
Favorite card game out currently. Remove Velrimith and it would be perfect.

>>381216319
Tbh, card collection is not a problem.

I've been playing for 3 weeks and could already craft an expensive deck after 2

>>381216319
winning in ranked gets you gold
1st win=bronze chest=45-50 gold
2nd is the same
3rd is a silver worth 200-250 then back to bronze
each chest also has a common/uncommon card and you never stop earning chests for wins
each chest also has a chance of upgrading
a gold chest gives 500 and a free pack
after is diamond for 2000 and that free pack
it doesn't take forever and you can grind single player if you want
for 2000 you can do a singleplayer arena that is much closer to HS (pick one of 3 cards instead of picking from a pack)
gold farming doesn't take too long and you get free draft and forge(the solo version) runs for starting out

>>381216632
How much of a chore is it to get those 3 ranked wins periodically? (especially if you don't have an optimal deck)

Also can you keep doing that ai mode for the 2.5 packs even beyond starting out?

>>381216713
>Velrimith
who?

Lack of face and mana means that while having less RNG, the game also feels less diverse. I played about a 100 matches and most of them felt like I'm just enacting the same game over and over. There's just too little room to grow into. No face means no presence of something like taunt units, no mana curve means that card advantage becomes idiotically critical, no turn start draw means that a lot of cards exist just to compensate for it.

theyre trying to cash in on the hearthstone bucks

>>381216875
You can, but it becomes less atractive after you hit the top rank and don't get rank up rewards.

>>381216917
level req. for ranked is too high, should be level 5
trust me, ranked is nothing like early casual

real game starts in ranked

>>381216819
>for 2000 you can do a singleplayer arena
2000 is how many packs? Is it also 5x packs? Also is the prize the same as the other arena this guy >>381215501 described? You still get to keep all the cards you drafted?

>>381216875
The starter decks you get are quite decent.

Furthermore there are very cheap t1 decks available

>>381216875
yes, but after hitting master rank in it (it ranks up after every full win, giving extra rank up chests and increasing in difficulty)
you'll get diminishing returns
I wouldn't know how hard ranked wins are for a newer player. When I started out Scream was a pretty good/easy/cheap deck but now Rakano is probably the starter deck of choice

>>381201159
i loved it in W3 and i love it even more now

>>381217073
Ok, how about my question on how hard it is to get ranked wins?

>>381217176
Yes it is basically the same.

A pack is 1k gold

It was fun the first playthrough. I think if TW3 had been better overall my opinion on Gwent would've remained or been more positive.

I'd still rather play craps in Golden Sun.

>>381217293
what do you think? of course it's challenging you play real people and real people like to win too

>>381217176
2000 is 2 packs
1 arena run is 5000
you get diamond chests from random lucky upgrades or by winning in arena/draft mode that guy described
yes, you keep all drafted cards even if it's the solo version of arena
also, they started an "event mode" which will probably be like tavern brawl but there's only been one so far and it's currently over
it gave great returns for gold
2000 entry with basic 3 pack payout for 0 wins
7 wins with 1 loss got you 6 packs and 2 gold legendaries
I doubt they'll do that again

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>>381217293
I don't know what early ranks look like anymore
When I started out Scream was a viable and super cheap deck but that's probably not the case anymore
I'm sure a cheap Rakano(red+green) or other aggro deck would be viable for quick, early ranked wins

Was planning on dropping SV for this, but Gwen turned out to be shit.

>>381201159
It's just a stupid mini game, I personally can't stand it

>>381217472
I know that, but I'm asking as someone who will just be starting out. I mean, if as a new player with fuck all cards, it's not gonna be any fun if i can't beat anyone or it takes my 3 hours just to get 3 wins, you know?

I liked gwent in W3 so much that I completed the card collection but I can't see myself playing it as a standalone game it has too many flaws to make it fun against real people

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>>381216908
He probably meant Borkh

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I loved it in the game, with that comfy music and it providing a relaxing experience. How is the standalone gwent and is it on mobile yet? Not gonna play fucking cards on PC.

>>381217873
The standalone is not like the minigame, though.

The minigame was essentially just spam as many spies as you can. They changed things up.

I don't personally care for card games. Find them to be stupid money sinks that I don't want to reward with my money.

>>381217853
It won't be bad.

The first week I barely touched the versus mode and just went into the vs ai modes. Few ranked games inbetween to get some quests.

But remember you'll get matched with starters also mostly.

>>381217670
That's something I really find interesting in your game, that you can mix cards together from different classes

>>381217507
>>381217670
>>381217184

Anyhow, thanks for patiently answering my questions about your game. I'll be trying it out within the week.

>>381201159
Gonna have to be honest. For a throwaway minigame,timekiller. It was pretty fucking fleshed out and satisfying to get a excellent move or win.
Music was awesome too.......

>>381218287
It's a great game.

Oh yeah the campaign which serves as a intro for all the factions is about 2h long

>>381218216
>But remember you'll get matched with starters also mostly.
Since you say it, I'll expect that to be my starting experience. One of the worst things I've encountered in other card games is as a newbie, getting matched with high ranked people with top-tier decks

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>>381205334
>Gwent needs card-draw
>Ng can literally card draw 7 cards
>Most factions have equivalent card draw and milling cards
Makes you think

>>381218475
>2h long
I don't mind how long it is, as long as it gives commensurate rewards. I actually like low pressure single player campaign stuff. Playing against other people is fun, but playing a campaign that expands the story of the game is its own fun as well and increases my engagement in the universe of the game.

>>381218775
then lucky for you they bothered to add story stuff(small cutscenes, voice acting) to the campaign
still boring as hell with the 1 color decks they provide, even with the rewards
grab a podcast to listen through and look up the solution for the final boss, it's not that obvious for newer players (or me)

>>381218521
>implying you get those cards with RNG

Really makes you think... It needs a standalone "pass this laying card down turn" draw to get out of shitty situations.

You have no idea how many times I've attempted to mulligan to get clear weather cards in the Monster Starter deck only for the game to NEVER give me them.

Fuck that shit.

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>>381219430
>implying you get those cards with RNG
>In a card game with minimal rng
Yeah orders and summons are really RNG. Givin me the old brain blast.

>>381219430
1. reduce your deck down to 25 cards
2. learn how to mulligan proper
3. build crones
4. stop being a brainlet.

its fun

>pull off sick combos
>counter my opponent's every move
>win one, lose one
>final turn comes down to single card vs single card
>they always have a gold
Every single time. Every game comes down to luck with who drew the better card in the final round.

>>381201778
>It's like you and your opponent are assembling your own jigsaw puzzle and then whoever has the highest number at the end wins.
This. Not fun for me really.

>>381205101
>>381205635
Reported for spam. Kill yourself.

>>381207210
every 10 level you will get a gold card

>>381212015
gigni is not consistent
if you place your guys right and villen has been nerfed and fell out of favor in many decks

>>381221553
>Every game comes down to luck with who drew the better card in the final round.
That's the strategy, you retard. Leave a good card for the last round.

>>381221553
I've got 3 really fucking good decks, but they are northernrealms and monster, so they might as well be decks of 25 foglets considering how OP skellige is atm, last night i vs the same deck 8 games in a row, all skellige bear decks.