I just bought the standard World of Warcraft pack. I always felt

You're at least 7 years too late, community is dead.

There's no real community left in WoW

>>381195391
You sure? I'm jumping in because the game still has the highest playerbase of any MMO — and has been reportedly climbing.

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>>381195001
I suggest searching for a good private server.

>>381195523
You're clearly not from here.
The game might have most aged 40 baldies addicted to it like crack cocaine doing daily quests 2 hours at a time never interracting with other players.

>>381195498

>>381195001

Its better to level as dps unless you want to spam dungeons. Paladin is a solid choice. And I believe Moonguard is quite active RP wise.

>>381195001

You don't want to level as a healer anon, trust me.

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>>381195001
Should've gotten into XIV instead

>>381195628
You're right, I certainly don't live on this board. I'm just passing by and asking the community about a game I'm thinking about trying out.

>>381195001
WoW's playerbase peaked at WotLK and has been declining ever since mate. You missed the train long ago, it's a completely different game now.

Better play ff XIV at this point OP.

>>381195743

The problem with wow is that the servers get mixed together now so there's no server community any more.

>>381195001
you would probably be better off finding a new private server that released with a high population

>>381195697
>>381195649
He gets a free 100 char, the levelling is literally non-existent. Go to bg and invasions and you are 110 on day two.

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>>381195830
I leveled to 60 as a holy priest on vanilla. and these fucks get free max level

fuck me right

>>381195909
Ast least vanilla levelling is okay. Expansions are horrible.

>>381195523
Blizz doesnt give out sub numbers anymore because it became too embarrassingly low.
Unofficial census addons are about 1.1 million active accounts, at LEAST 70% of which are farming bots. Another 80% of the real players left are in asia. The rest just log on for daily tasks and raiding.

>>381195001
Good now buy the expansion

>>381195909
Thing is, the only leveling speedbump still in the game is BC

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>>>/vg/180245872

wowg on vg for general discussion.

As far as the game goes, start messing around, just get your bearings, don't worry about being too focused on getting to the end yet etc.. Play around, see what character/style you like, etc..

unironically https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/

is also a good place for discussion/questions.

>>381195909
>>381195830
I was actually thinking about leveling up through quests and taking my time learning about the world and the lore.

As I noted, my goal here is RP, for the most part.

>>381195740
xiv somehow manages to be even worse

the patrician option is giving up on MMOs altogether

>>381196020
>do quests
>never talk to a soul
>do a dungeon
>never talk to a soul
>start raiding
>still never talk to a soul
the community is completely dead thanks to all the "convenience" of dungeon finder

>>381196016
>wowg on vg for general discussion.
unironically kill yourself for suggesting someone to go to a /vg/ MMO general, there's nothing but samefagging avatarfagging and furryposting in that cesspit

>>381196020

Honestly anon you will see more content if you have a level 100 character. You'll never find a group doing Molten Core at 60 for instance, but you could do it on your own at 100.

Retail is shit, don't waste your time.

>>381195001
I'm still playing anon, it's pretty good. Just find yourself a good guild and make some friends and you'll have a blast.

>>381195001
you are picking the worst time to join wow. Retail has a non existent new player base and casual player base. If you want to experience what the wow community once was, find a good vanilla private server. The gameplay and social is much more fun than live.

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>>381196016
>open thread
>some faggot samefagging about battle pets
>another faggot samefagging about pandaren asses
>some guy asks a legitimate question amidst all the garbage
>"no spoonfeeding"

>>381196271
>>381196183
Retail? You mean the base game without Legion? Sorry, I'm unfamiliar with the terminology here.

>>381195649
>>381195697
>>381195817
>this spacing meme
You know the point of this board is anonymity?

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>>381196121
That's why i also mentioned reddit lol

>>381196078
mythic+ and raids all involve talking to people..

lfr/heroics yeah those are just a queue up and get teleported kind of thing, i mean people shoot the shit a bit but not much.

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This thread is either bait or you really don't know OP, in which case you missed the community by a long shot

>dungeon finder reduced the need to talk to other people and build your reputation so that people invite you to other dungeons because you are known to be reliable
>your reputation as a player and person doesn't mean anything even outside the dungeons since the servers are connected through crossrealm tech so you'll always meet strangers
>raid finder destroyed any sense of awe that you participated when you were building your basic gear through dungeons, you just increase difficulty of raid which feels out of place
>the world is not punishing anymore, you can quest everything alone and there is no need to group up for various harder monsters
>you don't have to walk anywhere because a taxi takes you there or you are teleported right away, also flying is rewarded right as you ding your max level and nor flying nor leveling takes much time to feel rewarding at all, this reduces the world to even more background noise
>because of these changes you've essentially become just hey druid hey mage hey hunter and not your name, you will always be called by the class you are playing now
Just quit before you even started. This game has become garbage. It's not Burning Crusade anymore.

>>381196385

I've posted like that for years and only this year people have taken issue with it.
Only one of them was me btw ;D

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>>381196373

They mean play on a private server.

Don't bother stupid though, the only people that play on private server are nolifes or nostalgic people that can't let it go.

>>381196427
>that picture
lmfao

>>381196427
Oh. People here have been suggesting FFCIV.

I've never touched a Final Fantasy game — ever. I know that there isn't really any lore linking between them, but I'm not sure that the game is for me.

From an initial impression based on gameplay it seems like a mixture between Tera and something resembling WoW in terms of aesthetics.

I have a deep dislike for Tera, because of Elin-pandering developers who don't release content for anyone else.

>>381196427
>>the world is not punishing anymore, you can quest everything alone and there is no need to group up for various harder monsters
the world has never been punishing, you never needed to do elite quests or "outdoor dungeons" like jintha'alor
and after a certain point in the game's life it was literally impossible to get groups for them anyway since everyone was already at the level cap

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>>381196427

>you don't have to walk anywhere because a taxi takes you there or you are teleported right away, also flying is rewarded right as you ding your max level

Flying hasn't been rewarded as you ding max level since Pandaria

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>>381195993
>US/EU

Inb4 "but the accuracy". It /who(s) the server. What accuracy would you like?

>>381195559
>good private server.
There are none. If you manage to find one where the scripting is actually on par, it's completely dead so there's no point in doing content.

>>381196673
>third party sensus that requires a useless addon
(you)

>>381196673
Those numbers look really strong. Especially since most MMOs I play don't even scratch a third...

But some of the other comments have a point; those numbers mean nothing if these is no interaction.

Are they hate mongering or do they have a point? I'm inclined to believe there is truth to both sides.

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>>381196545
I am not suggesting you Final Fantasy. I am just suggesting you won't play this garbage or if you really want to, try to find a starting Burning Crusade realm. But you know, back when it was released I was 19 and the magic was something else. The mechanics may feel outdated to you now, but for me, I'll always be that little adventurer trying to quit WoW after vanilla and crossing the dark portal for the first time, hearing stairs of destiny OST and just taking a deep breath for what is yet to come. And damn those years, I'd never imagine anything like that.

>>381195993
>Unofficial census addons are about 1.1 million active accounts, at LEAST 70% of which are farming bots. Another 80% of the real players left are in asia. The rest just log on for daily tasks and raiding.
that's wrong
today i logged in at 3 am and there was literally 6 people in the entirety of dalaran, including myself
this obviously means the game only has 6 active subscribers
also they were bots, because i said so

you gotta believe me because i wouldn't just go on the internet anonymously to tell lies and pull facts from the darkest reaches of my own asshole

>>381196702
>as if a single account from each server is some supreme goal post
The numbers are consistent.

@381196809
the only thing consistent here is your retardation

>>381196767
There is zero community in World of Warcraft beyond;
1 - Saying "hi" to the other 4 group members on the beginning of an instance, and then saying "gg, bye" at the end
2 - Any friendships you might form by chance in a raiding guild (and they probably wont happen outside of raiding guilds at all)

that is it. the game is a decade+ old game surviving off the people who are hopelessly addicted to it. if you're looking for community and rp you should keep looking.

>>381196673
Funny enough about it tagging /who
You can only be registered to be found in /who if you have used the auction house on that character.
It's technically possible there's characters out there that will never show up on /who even if you if see them in person.
Just a fun note, that population seems pretty spot on. Which at 1.5mil it's still larger then every mmo combined. Blizzard could effectively drop to 200k active and still not cut servers.

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Have blizzard merged or decomissioned any servers yet?
I know they did some linking, but it's about time they just fucking deleted some, right?
I always felt if they're going the instancing route, they might as well just merge every server together.

>>381196545
There are several reasons XIV is a better MMO right now, but here are my personal opinions:

- The game has a shitload of polished, detailed content. Each PATCH adds content that dwarfs WoW's significantly (see previous patch notes to get an idea)

- The game's narrative is better done than WoW's. There are many quests with cutscenes where your character is a central element of the story

- The music in XIV is ridiculously good (IMO better than WoW's 10 second theme songs for each area)

- The character models are a lot more pleasing than WoW, even after their update

and lastly (mostly because I'm getting bored of typing) is that the community is alive, is friendly and is mostly filled with weebs rather than 40 year old tryhards, which I consider much better company.

>>381196926
Source?

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>>381196797
That's some interesting insight as to the nostalgia factor. I can't say I feel nostalgic about something I never played, but thanks. I do, however, feel like I'm grasping at fragments of a community that just isn't there anymore. Or, at least, that's the impression this thread is giving me.

>>381196926
>1.5mil it's still..
For US/EU active characters? What a ludicrous statement..

>>381196993
>doesn't actually mention combat anywhere
:^)
>>381196949
blizzard has perfected the art of merging servers without actually merging them. they market these things as innovative and fantastic new ways to bring life into the world, where as they're actually just ways of merging server populations together without incurring the "game is dying" crys that naturally happen whenever a game merges servers

>>381196949
no because they're scared server merges will incite panic that the game is dying (as if anything didn't at this point)
instead they're trying patch shit up with cross-realm zoning even though the only thing it accomplishes is competition for camping rare spawns in legacy zones
can't even do mythic raids with people from different realms so the most loyal goys will hand them even more money on top of subs to actually play the game

>>381196949
They have and they took a lot of old server platters from their machines and resold them for charity. You might be able to find one or two on amazon.
Can't remember exactly how many servers they pulled down and merged, I think it was around 20 or so.

>>381197002

Give it a try for a month OP, we might be wrong. I would love to be able to play it for the first time again, even as it is now.

>>381196918
Where do you suggest I look?

>>381196993
I see... Well... Yeah, maybe I should look into it. I don't know why I have such an illogical reprehension to the Final Fantasy title, but if the MMO is good I might as well LOOK.

Though, as I said, gameplay is only second to roleplay — which is what I'm looking for. How is RP in XIV?

>>381196993
TWO
POINT
FIVE
SECOND
GCD

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>tfw literally the only mmos i'm interested are newly announced ones with little to no information on them like mtg online and amazon's mmo, because they have yet to crush my hopes
truly the darkest timeline

>>381196567
If you aggroed two mobs at once you could die and you had to run away from more, which of course varied based on your class, gear and location.

>>381196661
Yeah you get cheap flying devs decide to unlock after a few weeks. Doesn't feel unrewarding and unnatural at all? Also doesn't change a thing about the community in the slighest.

>>381197102
as for combat:
WoW removed all interplay between classes, so there's no debuff you can cast to help other players, and barely any buffs left in the game
contrast XIV, where within the first few levels you already start getting abilities that interplay with others.

>>381197057
There's not a single mmo out there with 1.5 mil active users besides wow.

>>381196949
They only merged once between 2013 and 2014. Not a single merger has happend since.

>>381197102
What are you implying by that "Doesn't mention combat anywhere"? Is combat shit for XIV?

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>>381196926
>>381196673
>>381195993
where are you people getting these numbers from?

>>381197204
2 years ago FFXIV broke the 1.2 million subscriber mark.

I think you are wrong

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>>381197361
imagine being so desperate for people to play your shitty game you have to lie and forge facts

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>>381197186

>>381196808
5 min on youtube, examples of botting in wow
>inb4 old news they were banned
we all know the botscripts have been around since the start of the game, they just update the scripts and make new accounts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hIiQMqPy28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHeSHT2ZDnU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsaE4pM9-cw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg43CMMsS0U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSkovQGznKY

and since now you can buy everything from blizz with wow gold it will only get worse

>>381197294
I wouldn't say shit, just don't listen to the 'it gets better after 50 hours' memers. Sure, you get more buttons, but it is SLOW. It's a final fantasy game. Very narrative driven, and your hand is held throughout the whole game.
That's not to say WoW is any better, WoW is stale. They say they're increasing subs - but that's only because a new raid is coming out. Active characters will go under 1mill by the end of the year if they don't find a way to breathe fresh life into the game.

>>381197294
In a sense. Out of the jobs I'd played at max level (keeping in mind they raised max level to 70 with the new expansion like 3 days ago), they only start actually getting FUN towards that max level. The combat is really pretty good, but the problem is it lacks in complexity for a long time while leveling up, and that can turn people off. The biggest (unintentional) mistake that new players to FFXIV make is picking Lancer as their starting class. Lancer is ----literally---- one button all the way to level 26, which is a good while if you're taking it slow.

>>381197439
today i went into the gnome starter area and saw nothing but gnomes
this obviously means everyone else playing the game is a gnome

this is you
this is how fucking retarded you sound

>>381195001
Whatever you don't roll a shaman. Blizzard hates them

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>>381196993

> Each PATCH adds content that dwarfs WoW's significantly

lol

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>7.2 BIGGEST PATCH IN THE HISTORY OF WoW EVERYONE PLS COME BACK
>The only piece of content that wasn't behind a timegame was the mid-expansion catchup/grinding island and 1 dungeon. Raid pushed back to 7.2.5, and then it's still behind several weeks of timegating
>Bosses are still bugged on the PTR

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>>381197204
Those are characters logged-in.

>>381197114
>and merged, I think it was around 20 or so

>on the existing cross-realm technology, a Connected Realm is a set of two or more standard realms that have been permanently and seamlessly "linked."
>almost every server is a connected realm now
- https://realmpop.com/

>>381197361
>then plummet to 500k in a matter of months
Everyone got the flavor of the month of their mouth.

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>>381197501
how much longer must we atone for bus shock

>>381197315
http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php

>accounts
..Established in what way?

>>381196993
your newest expansion consists of 9 dungeons and 1 raid
this is less content than fucking WoD's release of all things

>>381196321
wowg is the worst general i've seen
i remember being told about worse ones but they don't really seem so bad at a glance

>>381197195
That's literally wrong. There's still plenty of debuffs that are useful for the party.

>>381197575
i got to watch tseric completely break down in real time

good times

>>381197623
>..Established in what way?
achievements are account wide you donut

>>381197430
That website is fucking stupid. It measures active players by whether or not they've completed a certain quest. I've sunk over a thousand hours into FFXIV, but since I was never particularly interested in the HW3.1+ MSQ I didn't bother doing it till the day before stormblood released. Its arbitrary as fuck and fucking retarded.

>>381197645
b-b-but each patch adds a linear hallway dungeon and a couple of cutscenes! There's so much content in FFXIV! Please join us. I'm so alone.

>>381197673
like?

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>>381197501

>he doesn't play resto

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Oh wee, another retail thread invaded by private server cucks and nostalgiafags

>>381197645
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/296b070f41c0e0dedae24de50ae7c51abfa95055

See that patch note for Stormblood and weep, WoWfag. You can go back to each individual patch note and notice that there's more content in one than in the 3 WoD patches you got in an entire year

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>>381197498
that is a really good argument, that refutes all the objective evidence I presented

>>381196385 >the spacing meme why do you even press enter?

>>381197796
>anecdotal evidence is not objective
you're already at maximum retardation

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The discussion here is pretty divisive. At least the game's name is still a hot talking point. I think it derailed past the point where I'm going to get any info here.

Thanks for the info for those who contributed. I really appreciate it.

>>381197732
There's the pally healing one, the dh has the amplifier debuffs, there's also various impairing effects. I don't know all classes though.

Go to wow progress and pick a good server.
Wow is not what it used to be but it is far from the horrible game everyone makes it out to be.

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>>381197775
>all those screenshots artificially lengthening the patch notes

>>381195001
moon guard is for yiffing furfags

heres your sage

>>381197859
If you have literally nothing else to play, play WoW. Just know the experience you will have dwarfs in comparison to what it used to be. It's still the most fluid MMO on the market, and everything just works.
It's not a horrid game, but you're better off spending your time not playing an MMO in 2017.
Don't listen to the FFXIV shills, unless you're a massive weeb.

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>Only one more day for eurobros to get Cutting Edge Helya and Gul'dan

You DO have it don't you? You're not a casual right?

>>381197707
>accounts per achievement statistics
>listed somewhere

>>381198012
Only casuals still play the flaming dumpster fire that is nu-wow, so by definition yes they are.

>>381198012
>bothering with mythic raiding in the day and age where memeforging makes it all but pointless
lmao go clean your poopsock

>>381198072
is there a single person who enjoys titanforging?
i've seen people happy about warforging.
never titanforging

>>381198047
>>381198072
He's just going to reply to you with a false sense of superiority and call you casuals, because you aren't mythic raiding on world of warcraft in the year 2017

>>381197859
>>381197987
Literally this.
You really didn't miss out on much if you've played any other mmo in the last decade. As all of them have pretty much become trite garbage that's become more insulting to gaming than anything else.

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>>381197987
I'm not a massive weeb. My interest in the game at the moment is null. Thank you for your input; this is probably the most coherent and (seemingly) fair answer I got this entire thread.

Sincerely, mate — thank you.

>>381198021
just because you and your high school dropout education can't imagine how it could be done doesn't mean it's impossible, retard

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>>381197859
>>381197987

>>381198148
Me. Warforging is a tiny upgrade. Titanforging gives amazing plus.

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>Ashran added
Finally, a new area to explore in this now fucking awful game of only raiding!'

>Can't queue
>The other side has twice as many players as my faction
>We lose yet again
With Holinka gone, we might see improvements to PVP in...oh wait, never.

>>381198047
>>381198072
All I see is excuses

>>381198153
... I haven't gotten anywhere near the experience in the MMOs I dabbled in that other people claim they had.

Might be my fault for never really sticking to any of them.

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>>381198196
this better be ironic

>>381198153
It's a real shame. There is so much potential in MMORPGs, yet they're all carrot-on-a-stick grind simulators nowadays. I hope nu-WoW and it's clones(korean fapbait mmos included) crash and burn, so we can see a resurgence someday.
>>381198154
You're welcome bro, I thought I could shed some light amidst the MMO cockfight that happens in all these threads.

>>381198292
>winning/losing arguments
I sincerely hope you're not involved in any way with academia

real talk, why are so many people bitter over a decade old game?

I started playing again when legion hit with some friends, they all quit by now but i found a pretty cool guild and we have a ton of fun shooting the shit

sure, there are issues with the game like with any other game, but the amount of vitriolic hatred posted in every wow thread is staggering, even for /v/

>>381198436
They're bitter cause they blame their shortcomings in life on this game

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>>381198292
when you're so desperate for counterarguments you start telling people to go kill themselves and boasting about losing/winning arguments instead of actually providing a proper argument

>>381197527
Nice rebuttal.

>>381198436
imagine playing a game for a decade and then they change it so much that you hate it now
they are bitter and miss their timesink

>>381197768
Honestly, you deserve it if you still play retail WoW in any capacity.

Get some help, addict.

>>381198436
they're bitter because WoW was their lives, then blizzard fucked it up and they were left with nothing

you'd literally do nothing outside of school/work but play wow, until suddenly one day the game is fucking shit. its like having the rug pulled out from under neath you, what the fuck are you going to do to fill your days now? people hate the game for this.

at least they're able to realise its shit, though.

>>381198287
>It's a real shame. There is so much potential in MMORPGs, yet they're all carrot-on-a-stick grind simulators nowadays. I hope nu-WoW and it's clones(korean fapbait mmos included) crash and burn, so we can see a resurgence someday.
The entire genre is gonna have to crash and burn for a good few years between like the space between Evercrack and WoW. The next thing that comes along can't use any trends from this generation of mmos at all, which will make things harder.

I believe that multiplayer esports games will take the place entirely of mmos, as those have been gaining their greatest traction in the last couple years and replacing the social void of mmos instead. As there really isn't anything left of the social aspect of mmos as it's all become stagnate internet meme flinging garbage.

>>381198436
because WoW felt like the bees knees all the way through wrath, and the game has since become casualized trash to the point its painful to think about. over time they completely destroyed things that gave sense of community or individuality (even though it was only ever perceived and not actual)

ff14 is a better MMO, no idea why you would waste your time on WoW at this point.

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>>381198643
I'm not the addicted one that stalks catalogue to look for retail threads and swoop into them and start shitposting

>>381198818

>I'm not the addicted one

You just keep telling yourself that to make you feel better.

>>381198643
you cannot lack this much self-awareness

>>381198718
As bitter as I am over the fate of my beloved MMOs, I'll be happy to see them die and replaced by something new. I'm not a fan of e-sports games, but I could definitely see the appeal. Take the competitive aspects of MMOs and make a whole game around it. There is no need for level grinding and fetch quests anymore, this isn't 2001. I'm excited to see where things go.

>>381198818
h-how did you find this thread then?
I'm actually curious as to what the thought process is for individuals when they click on retail threads
I play the game regularly and I (for the most part) enjoy these threads whenever they happen
but there are some people I can't imagine why they're here

>>381198798
Cold truth though is all mmos are garbage, the genre as a whole has ultimately failed to live up to what it could have been. Evercrack made the genre what it is, and WoW ran it into the ground. Everyone else is just scraps trying to make a buck off skinner boxes without the investment into the casino.

If I could personify mmos it would have to be in the form of the devil taking the form of EA and Tencent as a super being that eats the head of Bethesda. Literally the worst genre to work in, play in and deal with all together. The people that work in mmos and say the genre has somewhere to go are fucking sucking satan's cock.

>>381198883
You seem to be projecting your own feelings onto me

>>381198798
i tried playing ffxiv, levelling made me want to kill myself and combat felt slow as fuck

wow levelling isnt much better but at least ive made it through that trash

Haven't played since 06. Bought the game and I currently have 16 days left in my free month... already bored at lvl 60

>>381199142
you should have a free 100 boost if you bought legion

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>>381199142
So you're bored of vanilla/bc content

>>381196993
only thing XIV actually does better than WoW is having prettier characters, which even then a game like BDO does that way better. XIV is inferior in every single way.

>shit pvp with no real rewards
>4 raid bosses every 6 months (trials dont count, they get cleared within an hour)
>slow as fuck combat, every job plays the same (no specializations)
>no challenging content outside of the 4 raid bosses
>all the dungeons are linear hallways, while in WoW they at least attempt to be open ended

XIV is fucking garbage.

>>381199142
yeah leveling is complete shit i cant believe they still havent fixxed it its been shit since cata

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>>381199392
why would they fix something when its shittiness encourages people to buy boosts?

>>381199364
>WoW is having prettier characters
subjective

>>381199392
its not really fixable beyond giving people free xp so they can skip through it

its not like they can replace a decade worth of content development

>>381199520
>Taking text out of context 101

>>381199520
reading is hard

>>381199392
They already tried 'fixing' it with cataclysm. Do you really want modern blizzard to ruin it even further?

I wish there was a good mmo out. What became of SWTOR and Tera?

>>381199689
both are a million times worse than what WoW has become.

>>381199526
i mean the quests are there its just too easy and too fast
every zone is empty since you just blast through it
you never finish any story if you stop doing grey quests
just giving mobs more health and dmg could already do alot
then reduce xp abit merge some servers and it could be good
but i guess most people just want to rush to endgame

>>381199689
SWTOR has it's own niche and its playable if you like story content.

Tera is pretty much the same. The content is alright but endgame gear progression will make you want to kill yourself so it's not even worth it.

>>381199838
People just heirloom up and dungeon grind, I can't tell you how many of my post 100 characters didn't step outside the capital city once they got 15.

>>381195001
>the community — which I always saw as the most envious part about WoW.
I almost don't want to tell him... Community has been League of Legends levels bad since Mists of Pandaria.
Also, the population has been in free fall for awhile now. Was at 11 million, dropped to 3.5 million and then Blizz said they weren't going to announce the numbers anymore. Do keep in mind that they count Chinese players among that number, where you're a 'subscriber' as long as you have prepaid time left on your account, which takes over a year to fully decay.

>>381199582
>>381199605
i am a retard who doesn't know how to quote
let me try that again

>XIV actually does better than WoW is having prettier characters
subjective

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>>381199838
Wow endgame progression and story are what compared to SWTOR and Tera?

>>381195001
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> Anonymous 06/20/17(Tue)11:22:32 No.381195001▶>>381195559 >>381195649 >>381195697 >>381195740 >>381195751 >>381195826 >>381195996 >>381196187 >>381196271 >>381197501 >>381197924
>I just bought the standard World of Warcraft pack. I always felt like I missed out on the game, figured now might as well be a good time as any to kind of start easing my way into the community — which I always saw as the most envious part about WoW.
>In my previous MMOS the communities have always been shit.
>WoW also is famed for the RP, something I love to do.
>Anyone have any tips for a new WoW player? I'm hoping to be a Healer, thinking about going as a Paladin.
>Anyone in Moon Guard? Got any good guilds or something for a newbie to get into?

Are you retards really this easily baited? Half of what OP wrote isn't even possible to do anymore, and the game literally carries you and tells you what to play and how to play it

>>381199838
i dont think most people, including myself, want levelling to be slower

it already takes forever and most of the content feels outdated

>>381199392
All blizzard has to do is make all of the content scale with level and it would be alright and let people actually quest where they want; The best thing legion did was how smooth the leveling was 100-110.

@381200067
>the game literally carries you and tells you what to play and how to play it
no it doesn't
leveling doesn't teach you jack shit
stupid counterbaiter

>>381200081
>leveling takes forever in WoW
are you serious?
christ dude

>>381200138
i have a job and an active social life
i dont feel like doing "kill x boars" quests for hours on end

>>381199358
No I'm bored if WoW, it's all the same shit. It doesn't captivate me like it did 10 years ago.

Why pay 15 bucks a month on a fetch quest simulator. Even dungeons are boring, I played some 110 raids on a friends account, it's just a dungeon with more people. PvP is probably the only fun thing in this game and even that's pretty meh.

WoW is just fucking boring. MMOs are fucking boring.

WoW no longer has any semblance of community, OP. The only hope you have is if you get into a decent enough guild but chances are you'll get into a guild that'll have nearly the max amount of members but you'll only ever see 40 or so online at any given time because most haven't logged on since the first month of an expansion launch or the first week of a major content patch.

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>>381200067
Nobody bothers with OP's post and just talks about retail instead

>>381200067
Thanks, cynic, but I am not going to waste my time trying to get genuine answers from people to have some kind of teenybopper "hah, trollulelc moment.

I bought the game since its 50% off. Just looking for opinions.

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down to 1.9 mil active accounts, what happened wow bros?

>>381195001

>not getting to experience vanilla WoW where as I did.

I think we both know who won that round - me.

>>381200328
Source? I need to have a good laugh.

classes are gutted, combat feels dated, story sucks ass,pvp has always been a joke just refund that shit m8

>>381200296
I got some wonderful replies so far... Though you retards have been derailing the thread with the slapfighting of retail vs pservers.

>>381200319
what? there is no sale, wow doesn't do sales

and if i remember right there is only one game now and no more expansions, you can't buy it separately anymore, wtf is "standart wow"

>>381200234
I understand that, trust me.
But levels fly by in WoW. You hit 15 and just sit in the capital cities spamming dungeons. 100-110 takes like.. 4-6 hours playtime tops.
The quests shit out exp now too, by the time you do 20 quests in a zone you've outleveled it.

>>381196078
By raiding I assume you mean LFR since all other forms require you to interact with other people unless you're just being carried.

>>381200254
> I played some 110 raids on a friends account
LFR is nothing like Normal/Heroic which is nothing like Mythic

you are right that MMOs are pretty shit, but you have not actually experienced what current WoW is like
i think it's pretty a pretty ok timesink, but i wouldnt call it a good sink. some stuff is cool tho

>>381200387
That got a chuckle out of me. I was too young to really experience vanilla wow, sadly.

>>381200328

By trying to offer players clear paths of progression through the game for people unwilling to communicate and interact with other players Blizzard inadvertently created an MMO that tries way too hard to make you play it the way the developer intends you to. I played WoW since Classic and I never felt the game forcing me down certain routes as hard as Legion had.

Also in the attempts to make raiding more accessible over the years they only succeeded in fragmenting the community more and more.

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>>381197575
>>381197678
Watching Tseric have a complete meltdown made it all worth it. But I do wish Elemental and Enhancement were allowed to stay consistently good.

>>381199582
>>381199605
>pot calls the kettle black
if anon meant to say it's subjective then it doesn't matter

>>381200406
I issued a refund already. Going to try the free trial in depth to make up my mind.

>>381200550
>>381200512
>LFR
>NORMAL
>HEROIC
>MYTHIC
4 DIFFICULTIES OF THE SAME CONTENT
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP

>>381200328
Retard RNG gearing system
Time gated progression sytem.
PvP is still shit (Thanks Holinka!)
Mediocre leveling experience
Very shit first raid tier.
Story is complete garbage fanfic with all the famous characters
People are getting tired.

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>>381200328
1.9 million who opts to send in data from their twitch/curse account, not everyone has it or uploads user data

I don't cause fuck spybots

>>381200442
Log iti a free trial account. Its literally the first thing that pops up - the 50% off, you mongoloid.

>>381195523
Legion is an okay expansion for a couple months but you'll feel the samey grinding feel soon after you've done things a couple times. Classes feel a little too homogenized though, *most have cheat death, most have a movement ability, most can heal

They got rid of what people liked about their classes and made them not special anymore.

But Legion is pretty okay, third best expac.

>>381200452
>100-110 takes like.. 4-6 hours playtime tops.
im levelling an alt atm and this is only true if you do nothing but invasions, which there is only one a day of

>The quests shit out exp now too, by the time you do 20 quests in a zone you've outleveled it.
yes, levels progress fast but you still have to make it through 100 of them

whether it's fast or slow depends on your standards i guess, thats why we have differing opinions on them.

>>381200512
It just sucks since I remember really liking the game back in the day but I'd much rather just play something else...

>>381200603
I got pissed off when I first went from what is now normal into what is now heroic in Siege of Orgrimmar and NOTHING CHANGED
why even have seperate difficulties when the fights don't play out any different?
At least they're starting to fix the problem but I want 1 difficulty with hard modes and 10 man raids back

>>381200603
>>381200550
ok, im honestly curious why you think different content difficulties with different mechanics and different rewards is a bad thing

>>381200694
>2017
>external third party website still required to visit to properly know game details as they aren't provided in full detail in-game

love this shit we're really still stuck in 2005 with lazy developers

best part is how blizzard links to these websites from their own client/website, even in-game and they are fucking riddled with ads and shady as fuck shit, one click wrong and you are infested with russian and chinese malware

Anyone else more disappointed in the way classes are designed now more than anything? I played resto shaman since BC and it always felt more fun than it has the past 2 expansions with the removal of key abilities like mana tide and earth shield

>>381200864
>>381200694
the real question is why you care so much about subscriber count of a decade old game

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>>381199689
TERA is fun up until the endgame grindmill begins then it jumps off a cliff though I personally stuck around for a fair while anyway.

>>381200760
This is the most civilized reply to anything I have ever seen in one of these threads. Thanks for not being a fag.
>>381200863
It's not necessarily a bad thing, though it leads to easy burnouts. Run LFR because of titanforging. Run normal, which is LFR with more damage/health. Heroic is normal suped up. Mythic seems to be the only mode that really differentiates itself from the rest. It's tiring I guess, but that could also just be me burnt out on the game. I can see why they implemented it.

>>381200864
>even in-game and they are fucking riddled with ads and shady as fuck shit, one click wrong and you are infested with russian and chinese malware
Not really doubting you but, could you show some example? (Other than MMOchamp and WoWheads site which I don't touch without at least 2 adblockers on)

I'm in a situation similar to OP. Bought WoW and FFXIV. Played a tiny bit of both. I also own ESO and BDO but haven't touched those yet. Minimal MMORPG experience beyond RuneScape back when every kid played it over a decade ago.

Post your BattleTag if you're looking for people to play with, OP.

>>381197652
>Wowg the worst one
>not sc2
>not katawa shoujo
>not neptunia

>>381200864
I haven't had any addons since WoD launched but it pisses me off how there still isn't a rangefinder in the default UI
"stay spread at least 8 yards so you don't overlap the bad"
how far is 8 yards fuck blizzard just give me a circle or something

>>381201075
if you click in-game help menu there are several links to these various websites and most of them are riddled with your generic retard ad

>>381201081
you have to check out the elysium private server general some time they just talk about trannies

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>>381201035
I don't, but shitposters do

I enjoy WoW and I enjoy FFXI, the latter barely having 5k players on their most popular server, numbers doesn't mean shit outside of people trying to shitpost stuff as being the second coming of ToRtanic

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>bunch of friends started playing again
>noticed I had a WoW Token, why not
>level up my artifact within the month, realize there's only more points to put in it
>get enough gold to buy another Token
>stop playing again

Why did they have to make Artifact weapons a thing? I fucking hate them. Also why can't I transmog one handed weapons into fist weapons? Fist weapons only transmog into themselves, and only ele shamans and ww monks have them. Fucking stupid.

>>381200058
Haven't bothered with ToR in years so I cant mention it mostly but Tera was somewhat recent.

Wow endgame progression is a million times better than Tera. Tera's korean tier % rates on gear upgrades after the welfare set they give you is shit. Meanwhile WoW is mostly doing dungeons and raids on increasingly harder difficulties. Raids are weekly but the rewards are good but mythic dungeon keys can be done with groups infinitely if you want while giving you up to the hardest tier of raid gear quality wise if you can beat it.

Story for WoW is better than Tera but theres no contest here, Tera is mostly dumb shit like that stupid Imperator questline. ToR might have a better storyline due to having a ton of writers but I really cant say.

Tera's main thing going for it was the gameplay, if it had decent quality progression I wouldn't have sold my gold and jumped ship from the game.

>>381201248
they want you to do the endless grind lmao how the fuck else do they think they will keep players now, the gameplay is shallow as fuck nowadays

>>381201248
Now they can focus more time on making armor models and other parts of the game better because you no longer get weapon drops!
Oh...

>>381201103
At least use weakauras and make your own mods and stuff

>>381201035
well i was baffled that when i logged on my server that it was so fucking dead that i got curious and wanted to know why
then you realize that wow lost more than half of all their subs but still hasnt closed or merged more server than in wod
but thats just typical blizz they always wait things out

>>381201078
ARE YOU ME? YOU DESCRIBED ME PERFECTLY.

DO NOT PLAY BDO. WHATEVER YOU DO, STAY AWAY. EVERYTHING IS GEARED TO TAKING REAL MONEY WITH NO END IN SIGHT. THE GAME ALSO INSENTIVIZES NOLIFING TO THE POINT OF LITERALLY LEAVING THE GAME RUNNING 247, EVEN WHILE AFK.

If you take anything away from this thread it is this: Stay away from bdo

>>381201062
its only tiring if you force yourself to do all of them
there is no reason to do that unless you're in a top 500 guild since running difficulties below your gear progression gives very minimal advantages

>>381196321
It gets worse if you actually play with them. It is NOTHING BUT FUCKING MEMESPOUTING THE ENTIRE TIME and I do mean the entire time.
My favorite: "Don't worry about gear, you're new, we'll help you" Mythic+, don't have one of the best keystones, they seemingly go deaf. Raid time comes. BENCHED THE ENTIRE TIME.

>>381196321
wowg has gotten a little better since previous expansion, those turbo autists that shit up the thread for straight several years either committed suicide or were kicked out of their parents houses

>>381201378
Gonna have to disagree with that one, OP. Not in the sense that I don't think BDO is a cash-grab, but my only MMO-playing friends play BDO and I want to play with them. I don't care about spending money on the game, though. I would have spent it on cigarettes or Pepsi or something else useless anyway. I get autismbux so it's all good, baby.

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>>381201393
>Not enjoying being benched and joining once all the retards know what to do and pick up the loot with no effort

>>381197736
I am still so fucking mad they turned ret paladins into enhance shamans. REEEEEEE

>>381201360
they're just jewing for server transfers, kind of despicable
then again, some people enjoy low pop servers

>>381201579
no theyre still around just not that often anymore
also new cancer is growing right now

>>381201393
I thought it was a rule at this point to never play with /VG/ on any game ever. Any 4chan related group usually goes to shit.

>>381201612
Ret paladin has been my main since BC.
It wasn't the most complicated class, but ever since holy power was introduced they've just been fucking it up more and more. At least it felt like I was playing Warcraft DDR with the priority rotation in WoD.. but this.. ugh

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>>381201393
>get Mythic+ key for Court of Stars
>know it'll be another week I don't get to use my key

>>381201602
I have no idea what you mean by "autismbux", but if you are well away of the poison you're indulging there is nothing else I can say. You own your decisions.

I thought about posting my tag, but decided against it. I'm looking for rp, not gaming buds. Cheers for giving good advice though.

>>381201809
? CoS is one of the best

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>>381201809
What the fuck are you on about, Court of Stars is one of the best keys to get

>>381200864
>browses the internet without an adblocker
you're stuck in 2005 yourself

>>381201904
He gets disability money from the gubment for being a useless piece of shit. He spends it on microtransactions in shitty MMOs. He is what BDO is marketed towards.

>>381201751
oh? well i read some shit, not sure if it was true though

if it was true good enough, some people are a literal waste of life and can just stop existing for everyone's benefit

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>>381201765
This. If I join a private server, I know to try and join a more normalfag guild, if only because I know it'll be more tolerable. Private server /vg/ guilds might be one of the few things more autistic than normal /wowg/.

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>>381201035
>why do people care about subscribers in a MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER GAME

>>381201954
Bursting and Quaking with anything but people you know is the worst fucking mix ever. I don't blame him for not using his key.

>>381202056
kinda amazing that they have been banevading for literal years
most dedicated shitposters ive ever known

>>381202016
Harsh way to put it, but honest.

>>381202090
see >>381201190

>>381202090
as long as there are enough players to fill up one (1) server it makes literally no difference

>>381202151
I don't blame him, honestly. If I were to receive autismbux I'd probably do the same.
Though BDO is not worth a damn, not even for the thicc waifus.
Man I hope a good MMO comes around sometime. Fucking cashgrab shit everywhere.

>>381202343
Preach. Someone mentioned crashing and burning the market for the sake of revival. The more I think about it, the more it feels right.

>>381201904
It's a shame you won't post it but I understand. I hope both of us can find an MMORPG to enjoy and finally get to experience all the nice feels I see people talking about in nostalgia threads. I just want a comfy group of people to sit in TeamSpeak with and explore a virtual world with together.

>>381202016
>>381202151
>>381202343
Pretty much. I get the equivalent of about $1,000 U.S. per month. It's kinda comfy and I have a legitimate reason for being on disability so it's okay!

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>Playing anything but fembelf on Horde
>Playing anything but melee

>>381201806
I played alliance in vanilla and was one of the most active shaman's during tbc on oceanic. So I wouldn't say that I have heaps of experience with original enhance but there is a huge difference from old enhancement to the later iterations and it properly shits me.

Off specs were always pretty fucked but blizzard has actively ruined twisted their own ideas. Like fucking duel wielding doomhammer, they could have made a really interesting change by turning enhancement into a main-hand melee caster class with big hits on one hand and casting a couple spells on the other, but that would require original thought.

Same with demo warlock, they created a new concept which was cool then made it so uninteresting gameplay wise and style wise. Like fuck we get it you spawn imps but also still have the same shitty pets and the most boring rotation.

Blizzard just can't stop dropping the ball with all their games other than hearthstone which is literally just a money printing service.

>>381202586
fuck you its fucking stupid that horde is almost only bloodelves now
make your waifu in final fantasy or some shit

>>381202634
Overwatch is dope though.

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>>381200694

>>381202735
Hey, if customers like blood elfs then why not? It's not like Blizzard is catering to us anyway

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>>381202507
If you have a legitimate reason, I apologize for calling you a useless piece of shit. I'm just mad that I'm not autistic enough to get funbux. You're living the dream, my friend.
>>381202634
It's a fucking travesty. So many good ideas(that are all well-established in the lore) yet they go for the safest, most uncreative options.
I mean look at enhance's talent trees. What the fuck were they thinking?
>>381202773
Overwatch is printing more money than hearthstone at this point. Game is unbalanced as hell, but you can see where the passion and talent at blizzard went.

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>>381202852
>the wod spike of hope

>>381202852
>the graph actually drops to 0
you have to make it less obvious anon-kun

>>381202805
eh theyre catering a bit with the broken racial
would be interesting to see if people would play something else if they nerfed it

>>381202852
what's wrong with WoD

>>381202852
Source?

>>381202968
>If you have a legitimate reason, I apologize for calling you a useless piece of shit. I'm just mad that I'm not autistic enough to get funbux. You're living the dream, my friend.
It's okay, anon. I consider myself a piece of shit. Geting it is quite a bit easier in the UK than it is in the U.S.

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>>381203168
What disability do you have if you don't mind me asking?
video games

>>381203165
up until the last dot the graph is accurate
people had high hopes for wod especially after pandas
the trailer was amazing and alot of people were hyped
and then they forgot to finish the game
wod had 2 content patches
a minor patch added a selfie camera and nothing else
it will never make sense how much they cut they didnt even release a third of what they promised at blizzcon

>>381202151
This OP is either the summeriest of summerfriends, or an incredible roleplayer.

>>381203515
member how hyped the Warlords were? It was a great idea. Then they went pants on head retarded and killed off almost all of them in cutscenes or quests. Jesus christ, WoD still makes me mad. Fucking SELFIE CAM PATCH. FUCK

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>>381202852
at least post the updated version

>>381203581
Uhh... Thanks, I guess.

Anyone have any idea how far the trial version will get me in exploring the RP community?

>>381203515
>and nothing else
twitter integration
because that's exactly what WoW needed during a year long content draught

>>381203683
sorry i quit paying too much attention after WoD, thanks for having my back anon

>>381202064
Seeing as how most of the autistic /vg/ people I knew quit for Nost/Ely, I'd say you're right.

>>381203752
There isn't much of an RP community left, really. Moon Guard's main selling point is erotic roleplaying in Goldshire.
Though you MAY find some out in the world, just don't expect many others to play along with roleplaying. That ship has long since sailed.

>>381196694
Are you talking about private servers for one of the new expansions?
Since every expansion up to Cata has a server with decent script

>>381203904
I'm fine with ERP, because despite the negative connotations it brings it's more than possible to fester a legitimate story line with someone after an ERP encounter.

Yes, it's not guaranteed. Yes, there is no quality mark-ups for whatever relationship blossoms — if one does at all... But at least it's something. I've got nowhere else to go for RP.

>>381203752
im not sure if you could whisper with a free account
if you cant youre gonna have a problem erping

>>381204103
I could never get into RP myself, I'm not creative enough. If you want an idea of how many people ERP, go to /wowg/ or start a human character and walk over to Goldshire on Moon Guard. It's a pretty big community. Horsecock draeneis and nightelves everywhere.

>>381204248
LMFAO.

I'm all for voyeurism, but you're absolutely right.

>>381200442
>what? there is no sale, wow doesn't do sales
Yes, they do. Base game often been 50% off, but I guess that's not a sale?

>>381204285
i miss when everyone was a lesbian
i dont like schlongs everywhere

>>381196072
>Legion better than any mmo atm
I'd rather play fucking SWTOR launch than Legion right now.

>>381204369
Lesbians are fucking boring. Cocks are fun.

>>381204396
don't put words in my mouth, retard biodrone, thanks

>>381204416
subjective
but i guess the majority would agree with you if i take a look at moonguard

>>381204506
>>381204416
>download RP mod
>go through goldshire
>every female is 7 feet tall with a 13 inch cock
It loses its novelty.

>>381204506
Absolutely subjective. Everything involving sexuality is — was just making a little jab. I respect the scissorsisters about as much as anything else, I guess,

How's the horde shit though? How does Horde RP differ from Alliance? someone here mentioned bloodelf galore.

IS horde mostly grimdark edge?

>>381204103
>>381204297
>>381204416
Whoa there summerfag! At least visit /d/ for a while before you go all paraphiliac on us.

>>381204626
There is horde RP, but I think it's mainly contained in Wyrmrest Acccord(the server)
And yes, it's all Blood Elves.

>>381204562
>RP mod
RP mod? What the hell are you going on about? WoW can be modded?

>>381204651
/D/ is too freaky for me. Also, I'm not a summar fag. I just don't come to 4chan much since /x/ became /b/'s bitch.

>>381202773
I disagree, they didn't build upon the concepts of tf2 at all so it just feels like shit. Especially for a game which takes itself so seriously.

>>381204780
To each their own, I suppose. I really enjoy it as an FPS, even if I can't ADS with most heroes. ADS used to be my drug.

>>381202968
Yeah I got no clue what the fuck they were thinking with specialisations. Combat rogue im premise isn't a terrible idea but they fucked up so hard.

>>381204741
there are addons some people call them mods for roleplaying profiles
oh unless he means modelmods you can give your character bigger boobs and make them naked

>>381204741
Meant Add-on, you can download addons with effect your user interface for more customization. I'm not sure what the RP addon is called, but it's basically just so you can write your own character's OC, and others with the add-on can see it.

>>381204846
>>381204856
Got links for both?

>>381204845
Outlaw is one of the worst specs in the game bar none. Grappling hook is the only redeeming aspect. It's so fucking boring rerolling for buffs, and the whole 'pirate' theme just does not feel like it fits well with rogues.

>>381204932
nah i got no direct links but check out darknest if youre interested in that stuff

>retail drones
fucking kys retards, hows WoD 2.0 doing

>>381204932
http://www.darknestfantasyerotica.com/
You may need to do a bit of searching, but you'll find titty mods and other various things in there.
https://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/my-role-play
There's various mods for RP, but I think they use this one. Keep in my I don't play WoW anymore so my information may be outdated.

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I don't know if Autism bro is still around, or whatever, but here is my tag. I changed my mind.

I'm on Moon Guard, been there since wotlk. There used to be public rp, but people got laughed into oblivion whenever they tried. I was never a fan of the rp, I only followed someone to the server since I didn't care which one I played on.

Horde Occasionally has rp guilds recruiting, but only one or two that fit a theme like an all undead guild, or mercs (in a pve realm lmao).

>>381198012
>cutting edge helya
>being relevant for the past 5 months

>>381205131
> darknest
Shit that takes me back. I miss ackanime and Snowblind.

>>381203473
I have actual, non-meme, debilitating OCD.

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>>381205676
It's not about getting something cool from the new raid, it's about getting stuff that will be unobtainable and show it to plebs

>>381205160
Ayy, I'm still here. I don't use Battle.net any more but I'm reinstalling my OS soon and I'll install the client once I'm done. Are you happy for me to add you in the future? I'll write your ID down on some paper until then if that's okay!

>>381205841
You fucking disgust, that shit should have been taken out as soon as Nighthold launched because the gear difference just makes it absolutely worthless. Anyone who got it past then IS a casual.

are mmorpgs ded?

>>381196271
>Le vanilla WoW is good meme

Fuck off vanilla WoW aged liked cottage cheese. Retail might be shit but don't let this man hate WoW even more.

What's a good Wrath private server?

>>381206914
>Good
>Private server
404

>>381206914
probably warmane
i heard that its a bit p2w but im not sure why

>>381205286
>Grinding Timewalking badges for flying horse
>end up with 4 other players from MoonGuard
>"It's okay guys, I don't mind if you all start ERPing"
>"No no no, I don't RP."
>"Me neither, no one does"
>"???"
fuck your gay server.

It's maintenance now.
wut do.

>>381207629
Make a trial account on EU

>>381207776
I don't speak Scandinavian, will I be alright?

>>381195001
Is this pasta from 12 years ago?

>>381208743
Probably

>>381199392
IMO, all characters should be created at level 100 (or 98 like demon hunters.)
I know it sounds crazy, but Blizzard has basically admitted that leveling is just a waste of time by allowing you to buy the level boost.

>>381199364
>>all the dungeons are linear hallways, while in WoW they at least attempt to be open ended
What fucking game are you playing?

>>381210683
Maybe bring some context to the argument cause you don't have any

>>381210843
Wow does not have any "opened ended dungeons" or ever tries to.

>>381196401
>too bored to play lfg
>too causal to play mythic+
Why do I play this game?

>>381211057
Court of Stars is a prime example of how you're wrong

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You guys saved Chromie yet?

>>381211057
>>381211235
lmao rekt

>>381211235
That's the only one in a while though along with the Odyn one, Arcway is randomized linear, not open.

>>381211057
Typical retarded XIV fag arguing about a game he's never played and getting blown the fuck out.

Makes sense, too. Unless you have actual downs, there is zero reason to play XIV after WoW. It's just a slower, smaller, weebier copy.

>watch some videos of the new stormblood trials and bosses
>"wow what an amazing boss don't watch if you want to experience these AMAZING mechanics yourself"
>Video is the tank standing behind the boss for 10 minutes, ocasionally moving to dodge big aoe shit that has a slow-ass warning for 3 seconds before it even hits, there's a cutscene halfway, and then right back to doing an incredibly rotation behind the boss

It honestly boggles the mind. MMO players are just the most braindead, retarded people that will eat the same shit over and over again, pay for it, and defend it. And then fucking complain the genre doesn't grow and is dying.

Of course it is. You're gonna keep buying these shitty ass clones that have been coming out for a decade trying to get half the popularity that WoW did. Of course they're going to keep making them.

Stormblood launch was a fucking disaster on the technical side, and it's completely fucking creatively bankrupt. And yet, look at all the idiots who defend it and praise it. MMO players hate fun.

Just started playing and I'm having FUN because I'm playing with friends.

>>381195001
>I just bought the standard World of Warcraft pack. I always felt like I missed out on the game

You wasted your money, the game is not what it used to be.

>>381213446
You're right, it's better.

>>381213382
Do you RP at all?

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>>381214981
Protips for Moonguard, OP.

Alliance Side:
Stormwind - Mage's District and Cathedral of Light. That's where all the RPers go to. You MIGHT get some at the Brawler's Guild, if you're lucky.

ERP, you go to Goldshire. Obviously.

Horde: You can find sparse/guild RP in Silvermoon, around the city. Most regular RP happens in Orgrimmar, in the Valley of Honor, check the tavern there.

ERP for Hordeside is the Wayfarer's Rest in Silvermoon. Nowhere near as big as Goldshire in terms of activity.

But really, if you want consistent RP, join an RP guild. There are still hundreds and hundreds of active ones on Moonguard alone. And pretty much my most fun times in WoW were with RP guilds.

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>>381215530
What the fuck? Hilarious, relevant picture & in-depth and amazing advice for someone looking to RP?

THIS late into the thread? Dude, you're a godsend.

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^.^

http://www.strawpoll.me/13238889

>>381216425
I'm sure you'll get the hang of it after you play on an rp server for a while

>>381217198
>http://www.strawpoll.me/13238889
Nice, but I don't think this thread is the best place to post that. It's kind of dying, and a lot of the people who posted here seem to have enough bitterness to purposefully sabotage your poll.

Wyrmrest accord has the best rp in my opinion, moon guard is for erp mainly, Wyrmrest has phenomenal rp.

>>381195001
>new to wow in 2017
Disgusting.

>>381217198
None of those are worth resubbing for
Only legacy

>>381196498
>nostalgic people that can't let it go.
That's the dumbest shit I ever read.

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desu after roleplaying on Argent Dawn (EU) for like 2-3 years i can with experiance say that RP is probably one of the most normie nigger thing one could ever fucking do.

It's filled with men who play women with dicks, men who play traps, men who play lardass gay bears, and then these 3 categories of rpers gangbang together with literally 3-4 PARAGRAPHS of erotic text, all of which is filled with poor and newfag rp mistakes so you cringe even if you're being gangbanged by a bluegoat with a 10ft dick and a hairy manlet dwarf with a 2 12ft dicks.

It's such a fucking shit experiance you best of just kys, OP

>>381217782
Guild RP? Yes.

'Street' RP? Not in a million years.

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Servers used to have communities, and dense ones. You couldn't be in certain zones on certain days because that's when the number one Horde guild on the server would be on their way to MC and you would get camped and raped to shit as they waited for the raid to start.

You would see whole servers get dragged into shitty arguments on the realm servers. Tarren Mill/Southshore would be impossible to get anything done in. Ganking the wrong guy's alt could lead to the biggest guilds on the server butting heads for literal days.

You'd meet the same guys in battlegrounds, you'd learn how they played. One mage in T2 gear could be WAY more worrisome than another, reputations were built. And then the Grand Marshal or High Warlord would show up and you'd see just about everyone stutter for a second, because that dude would eat you for breakfast.

There used to be half-assed politics and grudges and all sorts of other nonsense that would give servers personalities, a dynamic sense of life.

Hell, even a small aspect of this was lost after Vanilla. With 40 man raids, a lot of guilds would have to team up to do anything, which would add a whole other layer to inter-server dramatics.

Crossrealm makes it so that you're not "alone" but who cares? You're not going to be levelling alongside a rival that you'd constantly get into conflicts with (I remember you Darknutt, you made levelling a fucking riot). It feels artificial, those people running by you may as well be NPCs.

There used to be a life in WoW, as fucking cheesy as that sounds. Maybe I am just being nostalgic, but I've tried to get back into it and it's just shitty. Nobody leaves to do anything. They sit in the fucking cities and wait.

>>381218032
>It's filled with men who play women with dicks, men who play traps, men who play lardass gay bears, and then these 3 categories of rpers gangbang together with literally 3-4 PARAGRAPHS of erotic text, all of which is filled with poor and newfag rp mistakes so you cringe even if you're being gangbanged by a bluegoat with a 10ft dick and a hairy manlet dwarf with a 2 12ft dicks.
how is that supposed to be the "most normie thing one could ever fucking do"

>>381217978
...It's true, though.

Anyone who plays on a vanilla server nowadays without ever having played WoW before will immediately see it for the shit it is. An ugly, buggy, inconsistent, slow mess filled with autists and bots.

There was almost nothing good about vanilla WoW.

>>381218032
Maybe you'd find better RP if you didn't spend all your time in Goldshire, anon.

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>>381218185

this desu senpai

pic related: me when i realized old wow is gone.

I've always wanted to get into MMOs, shame their hayday is for the most part over. I have to be one of the first into a new release to get a good experience or just fucking pray.

>>381218276
With that logic, playing old games is for nostalgic people.

>>381195001
>Buying World of Warcraft
>Paying for subscription time
>When private servers exist