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still shocked that we finally will get a proper DBZ fighting

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still shocked that we finally will get a proper DBZ fighting game.


best video until now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYnFDFSzvns&t=73s


news this week?
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>'SUP DOODZ FAGGOT1995 HERE
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Burst limit was really close to a proper fighting game, but they whiffed it hard with the drama piece shit.

I'm excited but it REALLY depends on the roster. If they don't hit all the popular characters, people will shit on it because "durrarrruhhh tenkaichi!"
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>>381193098
I don't like that there's a cutscene every time your partner comes in after a down.
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>Proper dbz fighting game
>3 on 3
When the fuck did they have a 3 on 3 fight ever in DBZ?
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>>381193309
It's to reset to prevent KO mixups like in marvel where you can just get comboed to death right out of an earlier death. I hope they offer a way to just turn it into a quick fade to black and back to neutral though.
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>>381193317
Fighting Vegeta's Saibamen
Multiple fights against many of Frieza's minions
Gohan vs Cell while everyone else were fighting Cell Juniors
A bunch of times there were gangups on one person, so more of a 3v1.*
Sometimes in those 3v1s a second person would come in to help the one guy, like Ginyu trying to assist Frieza or Vegeta distracting Cell with an assist so Gohan could hit Cell with the Super.

I wish DBFZ has a Ratio system so we can get 3v1 fights.
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>>381193606
That's something I don't see being a total impossibility. The way tagins worked didn't seem that unlike skullgirls.
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you have 5 (five) seconds to post your mains

>bardock
>goku
>gohan


that's it, son father and grandpa motherfuckers
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>>381193098
>SUP DOOODZ PLAY GUILTY GEAR ALL THE TIME LIKE ME RIGHT! I DON'T SUCK A GAME'S DICK FOR A WEEK THEN PLAYED SFV
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>>381193781
Piccolo
17
Goku Black
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Too many explosions, i can't fucking tell what's happening
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>>381193781
Perfect Cell
That's it
Nobody else
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>>381193869
To be fair, he really did quit SFV.
He just keeps expecting niche fighters to have a ton of players on ranked at 2am in the morning in his OWN timezone.
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>>381193945
Just follow the action by sensing their Ki.
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Who's dick do I have to suck to get Future Gohan in the game?
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>>381194029
Japs are afraid of missing limbs these days, sorry.
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>>381193098
>Posting Maxifaggot
This guy can't even do a Sol BnB, he should stop shilling shit he's obviously not interested on.
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>>381194102
>Says that when ASW just released Baiken in Rev2.
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>>381193869
>you're not allowed to like any entries in a genre except your favorite one
console warrior go and stay go
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>>381193226

I never got why this triggers the autism.

I get that it's annoying, but it's a formality to the medium.

This would be like flipping your TV tray every time Conan O'Brien introduced himself, Andy Richter, and his backing band.

Like, what do you expect?
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>>381193384
Yeah kills the tension for me really quick.

Imagine being at EVO.

>Oh! Hard read on the jump!
>OH DOWN? DOWN!? DOWN!!!!
>[cutscene of Gohan charging in]
>[noticeable pause]
>Yeah there was no way he was going to see that coming
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>>381194245
but he doesn't play his favorite ones he plays the most popular

otherwise his streams would be all KI and 3S
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0PjEo0OfSA
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>>381194380
No different than a regular round out in any other game, really. The time is almost certain to be tweaked, too. I think it gives a second to do a fist pump, wipe your hands on your pants or a rag, whatever.
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>>381194029
is punished gohan best gohan?

and why punished gohan went full powerlevel like in cell games?
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>>381194561
why didn't ***
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>>381194029
pretty sure he'll be in there senpai
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>>381194358
People watch Conan because they like Conan, so it's okay for him to introduce himself. When I watch shit like this it's because I want to learn about a game, not because I give a shit about whatever dweeb faggot is trying to juice a living out of said game that he did not produce. I don't care about his name or identity or commentary. I'd honestly prefer if he just shut the fuck up and let me hear vegeta grunt in peace.
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>>381194561
Because he didn't go through the hype Ebonics rhyme chamber like present Gohan did.
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>>381194523
It's still kind of long but I know.

Maybe they'll try and gloss over it with player commentary and info instead of continuing to comment on the match.
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>>381193098
i'm new to these threads, so forgive me if it's been answered already.. but a few of those supers shown had a noticeable drop rate. is the aim for 60fps?
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>>381194803
Yeah, I can't even begin to count how many times I see commentary spill over into the start of another round only to just be cut short or for them to miss an opener because of it. I think it should be tweaked some or be totally optional, don't get me wrong, but it's still not that awful.
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>>381193781
>Piccolo
>Nappa
>Yamcha
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>>381193781
Vegeta is literally the only good character in the entire series

Goku exists only to win fights with magic protagonist power, and to ask stupid questions over and over again so young audiences understand what is happening

Every other Z fighter has been completely overshadowed or outright ignored since the freiza arc

Satan is pretty good comic relief though
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>>381194198
>>381194102
It's not Japs, but a few other Asian countries that allegedly have a taboo on characters with permanently missing limbs as a result of large scale conflict because all of the wars on their lands left behind a lot of landmines and shit that are still almost daily fucking up kids and people who stumble on them. Unlike ArcSys, Toei is a little more unwilling to offend cultural sensibilities.
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>>381193781
Jaco
Bulma
Popo
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It looks awful, are 3D games too hard for fighting tournament kiddies or something?

I bet they get *teleport behind you* and ragequit.
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>>381193781
>Pan
>Bra
>Uub
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>>381195072
they're not as appealing going for viewer numbers.

Or rather, I should clarify, people just want established series to gawk at and go "I KNOW THAT CHARACTER, THEY'RE DOING THE THING!"

See: Injustice topping viewercharts in some of the newer fgc tournies.
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>>381194702
Like it or not, Max is the biggest fighting game streamer/youtuber, people definitely watch his videos because they like him
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>>381195072
>visually the best looking fighting game of all time
>completely faithful to the style of the source material
>"It looks awful"
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>>381195269
But muh three dee grafix
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>>381195269
greentexting doesn't make it better.
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>>381194523
>>381194803
Incoming mixups were a strength some players had over others, it was a unique skillset that a lot of novice players neglected. There was always autistic people that practiced their execution, movement, and combos everyday, though they still get smacked by the basic setups.

Incoming mixups said a lot about a team and was the biggest chance to really disgrace an opponent and show creativity. From a design approach like this I'm assuming DBZ is going closer to the guilty gear and street fighter route where they want to emphasize tournament viability. Of course this sounds more fair on paper, a guaranteed slowdown of momentum between every character death and reset of neutral. Though this really heavily narrows down the potential for team composition, the ability to make a front loaded team in an attempt to OCV is no longer a viable option, as well as it greatly favors playing whatever the go to heavy anchor of the game. Now the ONLY motivation when picking assists for your team is to pick neutral dominating assists. There's no need for picking an assist to use for mixup opportunities. Mixups were also the chance to not be completely demolished by the vergil and phoenix characters. Without a mixup the "vergil" of the game is guaranteed to be able to touch ground and run over your whole team.

In my personal experience playing fighting games, after seeing this I think DBZ is most likely going to be a fun game, though it'll most likely turn out fairly basic and slow game that stagnates out after a year considering the safe approach targeting the casual audience.
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>>381194971
>being a prince of a proud race of fighters
>your race is destroyed by some alien faggot in purple leggins
>some random ass low class fighter of your race kick your ass so hard that you have to run away
>a blonde girl ( A GIRL) break your arm in a 1 vs 1 fight
>a weird reptile shit eat this girl and proceed to kick your ass too
>finally fuck some random whore in a distant planet, have a son
>your son is gay
is vegeta /our/ guy?
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>>381195409
incoming mixups were also gay as shit and turned the game from something fun into an awful 50/50 if you lost one character, into potentially losing another unless you blew your break on it.
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>>381194380
you understand people can keep talking through the cutscene right?
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>>381193098
Man I am so excited for this, sucks it's still so far from release.
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>>381195409
>Without a mixup the "vergil" of the game is guaranteed to be able to touch ground and run over your whole team.
that's what the easier counterattack after a successful advancing guard is to stop
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>>381195409
P4A, the last game by this team, also targeted casuals but is still a fast and crazy game with high skill ceiling. Have faith in Arcsys
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I can imagine this game having a ton of dept and not hand holdy at all simply because the name brand ensures it's going to sell crazy good.
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>>381193098
Anyone here going to snag the beta this summer to play the best Dragonball Z game ever?
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>>381194971
Vegeta is okay.

Some of the better characters in the show like Gohan and Goten are vastly overshadowed by him. Goten is really good as a plot device and a metaphor, but you can't ever really see it because of all the camera time Vegeta gets, even well after them getting along.
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>>381195761
>snag the beta
>the closed beta
How would you go about doing such a thing?
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>>381193317
Non-canon, but Android 13, 14, and 15 vs Vegeta, Goku, and Trunks.
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>>381195785
That's easy you big dummy, you just...
...Uh.
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>>381195768
>as a metaphor
what
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>>381193781
I was actually thinking of my main team being Bardock Goku and Goten

Fuck Gofan
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>>381195768
A metaphor for being a whiny little shit and half of the worst thing to ever happen to dragonball?
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>>381195840
>>381193317

also vs broly the dishonorable fuckers fight broly 3 vs 1, and yet broly kick all their asses

what a bunch of losers
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>>381195901
if that floats your boat

I thought he was supposed to represent the apparent humor Goku lost with his age, but that works too.
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>>381193781
Only the best Saiya squad
>Raditz
>Nappa
>Vegeta
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Can I power up for 20 minutes in any dragonball games?
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>>381196131
You can in this one. You can just charge your super meter at will
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>>381193098
>we finally will get a proper DBZ fighting game
>finally

We had one before in Super DBZ for PS2, but normies hated it because the roster was small compared to the 100+ rosters of the Tenkaichi games of the time, so it tanked.
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>>381193781
>I will srsly main Raditz if hes in. He's kinda my fav
>Broly
>Tapion but he will proably not be in so i go for Kid Goku
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>>381196554
thanks for remind me that goku kill his own brother
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https://twitter.com/saiyanisland/status/876579867013386241

Show your support and get DBFZ ported to Switch like it deserves.
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>>381196625
>porting this gem to shitch

please
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>>381196625
fuck off
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>>381196625
>deserves
but I don't have a switch, so I don't give a fuck if it doesn't get ported. In fact, switch development probably means less optimization for the existing systems, so that'd be a bad thing. Fuck off.
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>>381196625
>Switch
>Getting some games from this generation
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>>381196609
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>>381197053
>kill his own brother
>literally told freezer that he don't care about his father
>worst dad in ages, forces his own son to fight even when he doesn't like it at all
>piccolo was so much better father overall

what a selfish cunt
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So Goku can transform to ssj3 only for a short special attack? There are not permanent transformations?
Kinda suck
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>>381197341
how so? much better this way
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>>381197265
It is kind of weird how awful Goku kind of is, like he's not evil, but still a pretty awful person.
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>>381197265
yeah man Goku is the bad guy here! >>381197434
but hey thats just a game theory
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>>381197341
Ssj3 is part of a Super Goku can do, but Freeza has a timed transformation super into Golden Form.
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>>381197341
>>381197505
I'm guessing Goku's timed tranformation will be SSB.
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>>381197632
He doesn't have a timed transformation.
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>>381197341
perm transformations seems like they'd be a bad idea. I imagine more shit like freeza's golden form stuff where it'll be temporary, comparable to sol's demon dragon form from gg or something.
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>early 2018
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>>381197998
this holy shit
why even announce it
at least half a year away the hype will be fucking GONE unless it's just a really conservative estimate and they plan to launch it by holiday. We'll see with the beta though.
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>>381198090
>unless it's just a really conservative estimate and they plan to launch it by holiday
things like this never happen
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>>381194561
>You cannot defeat me, what I stand for is Forever

Meanwhile in the main timeline Gohan is a complete twink faggot

I fucking hate what they did to Gohan in the Buu Saga
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>>381198090
Yeah, I agree. Literally every game that gets announced at least half a year away, all the hype goes away by release. It happens every fucking time. Why don't people learn?
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>>381193781
Bardock isn't gonna be in the game. He's too similar looking to Goku. They said they weren't going to put in characters that look similar.
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>>381198427
I know, all the more reason that I don't understand why they announced it so early. Fighting games aren't something that garner hype and build up over the span of months.

Does anyone here remember they announced a new fucking naruto fighting game they announced TWO MONTHS AGO?

the hype is entirely dissipated. Its' gone. Fucking stupid move here bamco. No one's gonna care a few months from now unless you keep up the betas every month and a half.
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>>381193098
>Unironically linking max's videos
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>>381193781
>Goten
>Goku Black
>Bardock

>>381198541
Look similar or play similar?
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>>381198437
In the main timeline, Gohan is a kid who had been traumatized and forced into shit since he was four years old, but still turns out to be a model adult and a great dad with a cute wife and kid. He masters the concept of Ki control so that he doesn't even need Super Saiyan and writes a book for the layman to understand Ki which effectively ushers in a new age for mankind.
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>>381198727
Look similar. They want don't want any chracters that look too similar. So Goku Black is out, Bardock is out, Turles is out, etc. Not sure about Adult Gohan. I think they mentioned they weren't going to have multiple versions of the same character too so he might be out as well.
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>>381193309
>He wants something like this to happen to him

>>381198894
>So Goku Black is out
That kinda sucks considering the massively different fighting style.
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You know what I want. I want Bulma to be a character. She's like the second main character next to Goku and is never (understandably) a character in these games. I think having her use all sorts of technology would be really neat.
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>>381198667
>Fighting games aren't something that garner hype and build up over the span of months
they literally are though, do you even play fighting games for real and not button mashing 3d naruto shit like you're talking about?
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>>381193309
I remember you. You're that brown girl got left /v/ because you posted nudes once and everyone kept hounding you for more.
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>>381199382
how about all that hype for tekken 7, where it took 3 years for it to fucking come out and no one gave two shits about it outside of the trailers showing off akuma?
How about SFV where no one cared outside of the betas?
Or maybe xrd will be a better example. No one anywhere talked about fucking rev2 ANYWHERE AT ALL until it just fucking released.
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>>381199262
Bulma isn't a fighter, she's a fucker.
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>>381199567
>how about things that didn't happen
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>>381196705
>shitch
What is it like having 13 anon?
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>>381199802
I thought so, faggot.
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>>381199262
>>381199759
>bulma's ultimate move is revealing her panties in an attempt to distract the opponent
>it only works on master roshi
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>>381199567
>no one cared

who are you quoting though? Casuals on /v/ maybe don't care, but the FGC was and still is interested in all of those games and they all gained massive hype and following that they all still receive today. You're delusional if you don't think they can keep the hype up for this game even if it comes out in 2018 of march. stop pretending like you know anything about the fgc or the hype of the games behind them
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Satan
Roshi
Piccolo

Team real niggas
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>>381193781
Trunks
Cell
I dunno, 18?
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>>381200327
>pretending
i'm saying no one cared because they fucking didn't. Those games are suffering from record low interest in viewercounts and player entries at evo and other tournaments than any of their previous entries. even xrd base had more entries in it's evo tournament than rev2 has.

There was just no interest in any of them. Tekken's making a resurgence, though, yeah.
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>>381200028
Speaking of Master Roshi I'll be fucking pissed if he isn't playable. He has the most diverse moves in like the series' history.
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>>381200759
From the looks of it it looks like it'll be 24 fighters. And it will 12 heroes and 12 villains.

Android 18 is a lock because shes awesome and shes a girl so get her in there. She'll be on villain side.

Krillian is probably a lock as well due to his popularity and unique moveset.

What I'm getting at with this is that I can see him getting in and not getting in. Roshi is awesome but they've been trying to get away from how...not appropriate he would be for the western market. I think he won't get in.
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>>381200759
If they can make a kind of homing dash with the flying nimbus then sure.
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>>381199865
I don't know, you are the one who owns a switch, so you tell me
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>>381199563

>I remember you. You're that brown girl got left /v/ because you posted nudes once and everyone kept hounding you for more.

Did you save some of the screenshots anon?
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>>381201095
12 villains
So that'd be
>Cell
>Freeza
>Buu
>18
Who else could be there
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>>381198894
There is no way in hell Rose isn't in the game.
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>>381200759
>>381201095
Roshi better get in.
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>>381201545
I think it'd have to be Fused Zamasu, why would they reuse Goku when you can have a more unique model.
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>>381201732
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0jQKHPQnjoK
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>>381201545
They said it themselves that Dragon Ball FighterZ will not have characters that are too similar to each other visually. Unfortunately I can't find any articles or interviews about this but I know it's comfirmed.
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>>381198090
They will keep the hype alive with periodic character reveals.
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no BlaMasu no buy
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>>381201384
>17
>Gero
>King Piccolo
>Gen. Blue aka Faggy McFag
>Broly
>16
>Gen. Tao
>Goku
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>>381202645
And they'll keep the rest of the world pissed off by releasing it in a few months from now for jap arcades so japs can learn the meta while everyone gets left behind again.

It will happen, 100% sure about it. Love how its shaping up but this fucked up practice will persist in it too.
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>>381202645
And the beta
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>>381194702
I started a channel like that, you faggots never watched.
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I'm tired of looking at gameplay for this game. None of the characters have any depth yet.

Thank goodness the game is only 20% finished.
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Who /futuretoranksu/ here?
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Whd do you guys think the next character to be revealed is?
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>>381203324
doc
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>>381203324
>>381203294
but I hope the announce two at the same time
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>>381203405
>tfw you teabag Vegeta with Piccolo
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>>381193098
Holy shit, they took Vegeta's flying knee with followup straight from the MUGEN fangame. That's awesome.

>>381196504
Beat me to it. SDBZ is underrated as all get out.
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>>381193781

Norio Wakamoto
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>>381203483
seeing that happen at something like EVO would be hilarious
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Should I start watching DBZ?

I am from Russia and we never had it aired where I live.
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>>381203562
I think they've actually taken everything from the manga and anime, there are a few comparison video's on yt
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>>381193317
who actually complains about shit like this
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>>381203093
They literally announced that the characters they chose to show were the most basic/generic ones of the bunch.
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>>381203610
I suggest reading the manga, then watching the clips for scenes you like. The manga is pretty good, but the anime is nowhere close.
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>>381203691
Hyper DBZ Vegeta has a dp+K with followup that's identical to the move in this footage
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>>381204270
>They literally announced that the characters they chose to show were the most basic/generic ones of the bunch.
[citation needed]
The only thing they confirmed is that they picked characters from all eras.
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>>381198437
>I fucking hate what they did to Gohan in the Buu Saga
you hate they made him happy?
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>>381204602
https://youtu.be/mIBbUIqv-r0
this interview
they are about 7 versions though so maybe this isn't the one where they talk about characters but it's the longest one I could find and should cover everything the talked about
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>>381204602
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2017/06/16/bandai-namco-on-why-a-2d-fighting-game-was-the-right-choice-for-dragon-ball.aspx

>we would rather say that the characters that we’ve revealed so far are quite standard, but we can definitely tell you that the characters in the future are going to be more unique.
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>>381204992
When they say "standard" are they talking about playstyles or being a recognizable roster chloce.
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>>381205141
Playstyles. Read the parargraph, she says out of the characters revealed Majin buu is unique.

>he’s got a long reach. For example, his arm stretch out, or he can take a part of his body and throw it at the opponent, so he’s unique in that way.
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>>381198437
>I fucking hate what they did to Gohan in the Buu Saga
Because the arrogant emo "crawling in my crawl" kid that wanted to torture Cell and got Goku killed was SO much better.
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>>381205336
Seems like peope who hate gohan in buu arc never understood the character to begin with.
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>>381205442
I fucking hated Gohan up until the Buu saga, then he actually became one of my favorite characters. True story.
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>>381193098
>best video
lol stop watching retards you autistic fuck
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>>381205620
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>>381205620
I never hated Gohan but I do like the direction they took his character in during the buu arc. Being a nerd made the most sense, plus the great saiyaman stuff and gohan in high school was pretty great. I loled all the lre buu build up and downtime more than the actual buu arc desu.
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>>381193781
18
Cell
??? Maybe Yamcha
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>>381205768
Wow fucked up spelling at the end there. Meant to say I liked the pre buu build up of gohan in school and the foreboding threat of a new villain more than the buu arc itself.
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>>381205336
that was just when he became ssj2 till Goku died he was a nice kid before and after that, also Gohan in the Buu arc is god tier, Gohan is always good
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>>381193781
Arale
Kid goku
Yamcha
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>>381194917
Gameplay is at 60fps, but the developers at Arc System Works really love the 30fps cinematic meme.
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>>381194917
It's an intentional design choice to emulate the look of the anime. They did the same thing in Xrd.
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>>381205768
>>381205868
I think most people like the sayiaman arc better than the buu arc, or at least it's something I hear alot
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>>381196131
>>381196409

It leaves you in a counterhit state, though, which means you'll take more damage and be more vulnerable to combos.
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>>381193781
Frieza
Vegeta
Cell
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>>381206043
doesn't anime actually move at 30ps, they're trying to replicate it
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>>381206735
24 I think for most cases.
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>>381193781
Future Trunks
Majin Vegeta
Android 18
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>>381193098
>first few hours
>high level

>Max
>high level

lol no for both. Why is Max getting so cocky? He used to admit he was just average. Not even FChimp would claim his day 0 play is high level.
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>>381196065
Dbz is kids show anon. There's 0 depth.
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>>381194029
Future trunks timeline is actually the real timeline.
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>>381193781
>Vegeta
>Nappa
>Raditz
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>>381207409
Didn't he say something along the lines that it was "high level for the time people could put in" and not that he was high level, but the people he played against were?
Something like that. Not really trying to defend him, he says some dumb shit sometimes, this could just be one of those times.
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Looks like another boring mobile game desu. Mvsci is at least 3D and has more crazy movements, its def more visually appealing than dbfz.
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>>381193781
Freeza
Super Buu> Kid Buu> Majin Buu.
Cell.
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>>381207409
Seems like he meant high level compared to people who had just picked it up and started pressing buttons.
His criteria for other 'high level' players was just knowing some of the mechanics of the game and trying to use them.
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>>381208909
nice
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Have they said anything to indicate how many characters we can expect on the roster?
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>>381209297
it's a 3 vs 3 game

guess 24
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>>381194702
All he says is sup dudes, and it lasts 3 seconds, he doesn't even do it in an annoying way. Stop being a hater.
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>You will never make thousands per month in donations streaming whatever the fuck while also being married to a qt chubby asian girl

Why live?
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>>381193098
>Dragon Ball Final Bout
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>>381203093
What defines the fact that they have no depth?
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>>381212907
>...was shit
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>>381193098
As much as I hate Max for being the typical faggot youtuber content creator, he works on videos on a daily basis, and has a general understanding on most fighting games and fighting game related news.
More importantly, my favorite FGC guys haven't done any videos for FighterZ yet, which I am speculating because they're waiting for the beta to come out. So the next best thing, unfortunately, is Max.
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>>381193098

prob gonna be the first DBZ game I buy since the ps2 budokai one

looks legit fampai
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>>381213428
It's either Max, or the Xenoverse content creators like Afrosenju. Pick your poison.
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>>381213535
I don't know who max is, I'm not in the fightan scene, but this Max guy sounded like he knew what he was talking about and compared to any other popular DBZ game youtuber, I'd rather have him.

Speaking of best gameplay, there was a twitter post that had a couple of matches on it, I heard they were from top players for some other fighting game, anyone know which one I'm talking about? It was posted in one of these threads a few days ago.
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>>381193781
>Piccolo
>Fat or Kid Buu
>Tien
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>>381193098
still shocked that you casuals still think that look like a proper fighting game
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>>381197724
Yet.
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Post roosters.

My prediction.
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>>381214619
Put in Roshi, Chichi, Yajirobe, Korin and King Kai and we got ourselves a deal.
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>>381193781
Freezer
C18
Mirai Trunks
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>>381214619
>post roosters
>roosters
This is the closest I have.
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>>381214619
>prediction
Prediction or hope?
>Chaozu
>Yamcha
>Whis
>Tao Pai Pai
>Satan
Straight Garbo

Replace those and add in:
>Roshi
>Videl
>Bardock
>Fill the rest with non canon guys.
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>>381214493
The game is a traditional fighter in practically every sense. It just doesn't have any complex motions and there's a universal approach to combo construction.

At worst it will be as complex as P4AU
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>>381214493
It's better than every proper fighting game, and that's only the demo.
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>>381215491
>Bardock
>wanting Goku clones
>Videl
>Not fucking garbage
Roshi is cool tho.
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>>381215973
Bardock isn't a clone.
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>>381214493
Because it is. They confirmed they're working to make it competitively viable. Smash this is not.
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>>381193317
when he says "proper" he means a proprer a fighting games as in based on actual fighting game mechanics, he's not talking about the Lore. Max has never even wathed a single DBZ episode in his life.
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>>381193259
I am going to college to get a second degree and I have to take my classes with 20 year old kids, they really weren't into the looks of the new game (for some weird reason, I guess they grew up playing the 3D games and don't care as much as the animated look since it is "2D") nor the fact that it was a 2D fighting game. I told them that a 2D DBZ fighting game wasn't that weird and that the PS2 got several of them in the Budokai series, they say to me that the series is called Tenkaichi Budokai and it was 3D.

Fuck young people.
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>>381215973
>if they look alike they'll play the same
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>>381194380
KO mix ups where a mistake. Having a neutral start is actually what a competitive game should go for. In DBZ case is a quick animation that basically is there to show off the great character models they have.
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>>381216186
hi i'm 22, and can confirm you're a lying faggot I grew up playing the old budokai games, and they were very popular
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>>381193781
>Vegeta
>Dr Piccolo
>Cell
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>>381215973
>Bardock
>Completely different attitude than Goku,
>Different clothing and skin tone
>Different fighting style
>Different voice
>Different eye shape
>somehow still a clone
?????
>Videl
>Not wanting the purest rushdown character who actually fought in the manga, unlike Hercule who beat up a badguy once.

also the funniest
>>wanting Goku clones
>posts two Gokus.
topkek
>>
test
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>>381214563
Unless they're literally hiding the rest of the movesets from us, then no not yet.
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>>381216592
>Different voice
well you're half right
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>>381216721
>Same voice actor, Different pitch
Still different anon. Nozawa doesn't voice any member of the Son family the same.
Bardock, Turles, Goku, Gohan, Goten, and Black ALL sound different in both Japanese and English.
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new reveals supposed to be tomorrow based on twitter post. probably obvious shit like piccolo, trunks, 17 and 18.
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>>381216892
>new reveals supposed to be tomorrow based on twitter post
>twitter post
nigga liiiinnnnk
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>>381216892
>17
>obvious
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>>381196504
>Super DBZ

that one one 3D tho, fundamentally different mechanics to 2D.
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>>381216714
the game's only 20% complete. They are literally making this game in single year.
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>>381204447
Didn't that move came from the SNES 2D fighting games?
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>>381216892
>17
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>>381217236
Pretty sure most of the work will be on the graphical side. The gameplay should feel similar as it seems the demo has quite a rich collection of mechanics already implemented.
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>>381217236
The 6 characters are done, it's the overall game that's 20% done, Goku is a complete character, we know his moveset and that's what it is, no timed transformation like Freeza.
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>>381216953
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>>381216997
>>381217365
>They think the U7 team isn't all gonna make it
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>>381217365
>>381216997
Not just any 17 but the best 17.
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>>381195226
>>381202908
>>381212390
>Fucking MAXIMILLIAN being defended on /v/
Every day we stray farther from god's light
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>>381217636
So what's the 8 mean? Can't read Moonrunes.
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>>381217734
Be nice to them anon.
They have probably never played a real fighting game before.
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Why do people want transformations so badly?
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>>381216592
Different versions of the same character with totally different movesets and playstyles is something ASW does ALL the time.

See:
>Sol Badguy/Holy Order Sol
>Jin Kisaragi/Hakumen
>Noel/Mu-12
>Tsubaki/Izayoi
>Hazama/Yuki Terumi

Kid Goku is quite likely to make it in, with his Janken, Power Pole, Ninbus, Classic Kamehameha, and Great Ape Transformation.
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>>381217863
the kanji next to it is month. its talking about august closed beta.
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>>381217734
>Man posts a good video of detailed gameplay(which there seems to be none of until he posted).
>can't defend him
I don't give a shit on why he's hated by the FGC or how much he doesn't know how to starburst DP fireball, he posted a good video and someone criticized him for bullshit.

>on /v/
Sounds like "le sekret club" bs to me.
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>>381217863
It says that there will be more info in august.
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>>381217997
>>381218030
Cool, seems like a likely monthly info thing then.
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>>381193781
Piccolo
Broly
16
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>>381217980
>Classic Kamehameha
As if it's really any different from a normal kamehameha. Aside from the hand positioning and startup, it's weaker. And something that unnoticeable doesn't make it extremely unique enough for it to be listed as a positive on why that character should make it in the game. He should, but a "classic kamehameha" is not the reason why.
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>>381217980
Hmmmmmmmmmm?
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>>381193317

This arc will have 10v10v10v10v10
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>>381218189
Plenty can be done to change it.
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>>381194702
>>381217734
>>381198689
>>381205656
>>381194142
Why does this guy trigger /v/'s autism so much? Guy sounds like he knows what he's talking about.
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>>381193951
>not imperfect cell, semi perfect cell and perfect cell
Step it up nigga
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>>381193781

Roshi
Kale
16
>>
Mystic gohan
Vegeta
giant monkey
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>>381218345
That's an assumption. The canon move itself is just a weaker kamehameha. Sure, they can change its properties to a dust or a wire move, maybe even rip it from his first kamehameha and all it does is add a shit load of hitstun, but that's assumption. It's functionally just a weak kamehameha, and going by that itself doesn't warrant him having that as a special move.
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>>381218543
>wanting semi perfect Cell
>best of both worlds meme
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>>381217948
It's a staple. Modern Dragonball games go the fanservice route via putting in as much as possible.

DBFZ is doing fanservice by doing a smaller amount of stuff but getting it just right visually. The fact that every characters has animations pulled straight out of manga panels/anime scenes and there's a bunch of little references (especially in Frieza's moveset) shows this.

However, the average DBZ game consumer isn't used to this approach. They're going to be confused by the gameplay approach, the smaller roster, etc. It only makes sense if they've never gotten into more competitively-minded 2D fighters. The only games of that sort the franchise has had were on the SNES or whatever.
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>>381218693
You need to watch classic Dragonball:

https://youtu.be/Cwc3yT4sPPg

Kid Goku was very ingenious with the Kamehameha back in the day. Plus, before late Z, the whole shtick to the Kamehameha was that you could redirect it. And this was done numerous times in DB. Kid Goku's Kamehameha could allow him to do that. Curve it to home in. Sure, it'll do less damage, but it'll pretty much always hit for example.
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>>381215973
Yamcha and tao would all make much better additions than that overrated faggot bardock. Anyone who legit wants characters like Goku black and bardock should kill themselves. I bet they're the type to still ask for future gohan if mystic gohan makes it on. B-but they play totally different guys.
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>>381219046
howd he get through his arms? he was clearly blocking his chest with them.
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>>381219165
Yamcha has the Spirit Ball, and the Wolf Fang Fist. Spirit Ball alone could make him a very ingenious Mix Up character.
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The movement looks a lot like Arcana Heart, and I always thought AH could make for a good DB game.
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>>381204270
>>381204992

It kinda sucks how the big baddies are similar. Cell could be more of a zoner with his Cell Jr's and Buu could be more weird based on his design alone.
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>>381216892
Lame. If they were smart they'd mix it up and teveal someone either tentative in making the roster like kid goku, yamcha, videl or some outright curveball like bulma, or tao ( though some would argue he's more on the former) rather than obvious choices considering we just had 6 obvious choices.
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>>381219165
>Yamcha
>does literally nothing aside from get his ass raped
>completely useless and adds nothing to the feel of gameplay
>not even a fan favorite
>kids don't buy db games to play as yamcha
>wasn't even important in DB, let alone Z and Super.

Anyone who wants Yamcha over Bardock is a contrarian with shitty taste.
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>>381218454
Because the way Max handles his channel and livestreams is pretty much everything /v/ hates about e-celebs. His content is covered in notifications from subscribers, he posts a reaction video and commentary for every little snippet of news, and he's overall just a big hype man screaming constantly which is annoying.

He's one of the few Fighting game content pusher son YouTube which is commendable as he doesn't necessarily care if he gets people into the FGC so much as getting people to just play the genre but he makes some cringe-worthy shit for his viewer base and the friends that he has on his channel are fucking terrible.
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Give me Hit.
Also some guy from DB, preferably Tao or some other Red Ribbon Army guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVCID1gtMpo
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>>381219670
I'm not that anon, nor am I defending Yamcha, but he could add stuff like Rekkas, as Wolf Fang Fist is totally a rekka move.
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>>381219329
I'd say he'd be the rekka character but I see videl being that more. Almost like karin.
>>
It's not looking good to be honest. All the characters shown so far have the same bread and butter combo. They all have the same launcher and opening too. Looks like assists will be the only thing differentiating the reskins.
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>>381219670
See >>381219329


Kid Buu would be pretty cool too now that I think about it. He had a very distinct fighting style.
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>>381219685
This. Max seems like a decent guy and he's trying his best to keep fighting games relevant with his popularity. It's just that his format is the basic attention-whore clickbait garbage style a lot of people have.

When he actually does gameplay breakdowns I watch those because he usually knows what he's talking about, even if his guesses are wrong. I liked seeing him point things out in his DBFZ footage.
>>
Who are going to be waifus? and ASW with no waifus is a heresy. I know 18 will be in, but only 1 seems really low.
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>>381219861
The 6 confirmed characters were chosen because they were orthodox.
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>>381219165
>they play totally different guys.
see >>381216592
Bardock is as much of a Goku clone as Gohan is.

Also Bardock would be the only Saiyan in the game to play in base form, which itself separates him from Goku even more in this game.
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>>381193309

That is probably one of the things that puts this game so above other dbz games aesthetically. Taking it out would be a crime. Maybe an option to disable it would be better like another anon said.
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>>381219956
videl, but whether its top tier pigtails or dyke cut is debatable.
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>>381195382
The game looks like a fucking anime, shit it even looks better than modern anime. I know you may not like anime at all and that is fine, but for DBZ fans that have been dreaming of a game that looks as good as the anime for years. This games looks even better than that.
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>>381194702
It happens in news mediums all the time too, autismo.
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>>381219670
What the fuck does bardock have other than being a saiyan fan favorite? Admit it, you jist care about power levels and goku recolors over characters who can actually offer variety in gameplay. You're a fool if you think power levels mean jackshit or would equate to tiers in thos game.
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>>381219861
They already said that was intentional, as they wanted characters that felt familiar and were easy to pick up for beginners for the showfloor. The baddies, Frieza, Cell, and Buu are very different from the Saiyans though. They already confirmed that the rest of the roster will be a lot more unique.
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>>381219956
18 will be in for sure. Videl is likely since she can at least fly and move fast, which is required to make the base systems work (same reason why I think her dad may not be playable; teleporting is a base function in this game and even if they go the Jetpack route with him he just can't).

I could see Chi-Chi or Bulma getting some sort of moveset put together. Chi-Chi is a fighter and could use a bunch of Dragonball stuff instead of having another Goku, and Bulma could take notes from Faust & Kokonoe to be a totally item-based keepaway character.

Besides those it's a crapshoot.
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>>381195226
Max is the biggest faggot in the FGC. No one likes him.
>OMG DOODZ! I'M LE EPIC HYPE MAN!!
Fuck off.
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>>381219861
>All the characters shown so far have the same bread and butter combo
Until there's a proper public demo that people can get their hands on and crack open most people are going to use high-low chains into launcher.
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>>381219865
Yamcha does have 2 cool moves. That's true, and I don't know how many moves Bardock has in canon and non-canon ovas, but in the games I'm pretty sure he's always had more than Yamcha in terms of unique moves. He's always had more rush based moves, Saiyan spirit, Flash spirit, Heat phalanx, Final avenger, etc. Yamcha's move list from what I remember always consists of wolf fang with like 3 different variants of it like in the XV games.
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>>381219861
I kind of feel the same way, but I think it has a lot to do with the launcher. It needs to be removed completely imo.
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>>381219956
>but only 1 seems really low.
Not like it hasn't happened with ASW before.
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>>381195497
>your son is gay
wait what? Did Trunks finally fucked Goten in super or something? I haven't started to watch the series yet.
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>>381219956
18 for sure.

Bulma is my bet, she's never been playable before, and she could be a unique gadget based character.

Videl maybe?

Callifa, perhaps?

Loli Chichi.
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>>381219865
Super buu would have the hypest level 5 though with human extinction attack
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>>381193781
Piccolo
Kid Buu
Beerus
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>>381220276
No, they just hang out like the kids they are. Then there's the small subplot with Mai, though that's mostly one sided unless they are the future versions.
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>>381219956
Arale
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>>381220062
I need an image of if Pigtails Videl isn't in We riot.
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>mfw Whis gets in
I kinda doubt it but fuck I like Whis. I haven't even watched super I just loved him in Battle of the Gods.
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>>381217010
Fair point, but still a proper fighting game, all the same. It's a shame it didn't do well. Though it was what inspired the Mugen fangame Hyper DBZ. And I wouldn't be surprised if Hyper DBZ was what inspired Bamco to get off their ass and hire Arcsys for this game.
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>>381220142
>What the fuck does bardock have other than being a saiyan fan favorite?
>What does Bardock have over him being more wanted in the game than Yamcha?
Idk, maybe the cooler fucking moves in every DBZ game? Actually being a better character and more interesting as well?

>you jist care about power levels
Yamcha is stronger than Bardock you dumb fuck.

>goku recolors
Take away the hairstyle and Bardock and Goku have literally nothing in common anymore aside from genetics. They don't even have the same face. Bardock has Mystic Gohan's eyes.

>>381220142
>who can actually offer variety in gameplay
You must have never played Bardock in any DBZ game then, because Yamcha has only ever been more interesting/better in 1.
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>>381220368
Piccolo's is way more hype:

https://youtu.be/K3Wd6DUhpvM
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>>381220581
I'd support it because he'd have some unique attacks (possibly more than Beerus) and would mean Ian Sinclair would voice him in the game. My personal favorite dub VA.
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>>381220681
I wish Piccolo wasn't left behind in modern DB. He is so fucking cool but it's all saiyans and gods now.
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>>381220581
Whis has a better chance if being an unbeatable secret boss than as a playable character. It's already hard to imagine beerus getting hurt as a playable character, whis is just man. And I'm not a power level faggot either as I thonk weaker characters loke videl or bulma would be welcome.
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>>381220816
Piccolo at least remained more relevant than any non-Saiyan throughout all of Z.
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>>381198739
>In the main timeline
>talks about DB heroes shit

sure he does anon, sure he does.
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>>381219956

Will they add puffy vulvas?
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>>381193098
>finally

dunno, I though the psx game was ok
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>>381220681
>music that starts at 3:26 when 17 realizes he fucked up
and people say faulconer is trash? sm.h
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>>381220859
>It's already hard to imagine beerus getting hurt as a playable character, whis is just man
It's a fighting game. Powerlevels mean jack shit.
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>>381202896
The game is not for arcades.

Its gonna release first in XbonerX, ps4 AND PC.
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>>381218543
>implying cell was ever less than perfect
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>>381220859
Modern games already don't give a shit about canon power. You can play as Videl & Dende and such in XV2 against characters like Whis and Beerus and LSSJ Broly and overpowered GT & Super shit.
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>>381220906
>>talks about DB heroes shit
It's actually DBO shit, which makes it canon.
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>>381193781
Piccolo
Ginyu
Mr. Satan
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>>381220859

He just pretend to get hurt in Xenoverse. Beerus even mention how bad of an actor Whis is when you knock him down.
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>>381220859
They can just take the xenoverse route and have him pretend for the fun of it.
Something like making his hit animations him giggling and making his KO animation him just sitting there twiddling his fingers.
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post yfw roster is confirmed

>goku
>SS3 goku
>mean goku
>young goku
>goku "black"
>goku ACTUALLY "black"
>green goku
>trunks
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>>381202645
So DBZ Japan Time? Mite b gud
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>>381220906
I think it is the MMO that is actually canon since it tries to explain the expansion of humans that are able to use Ki.
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>>381221010
>the psx game was ok
Which one?
Ultimate Battle 22? It was shit and not a "proper" fighting game.
The Legend? Same thing.
Final Bout? Shit too, people only liked it because it was Dragon Ball.
That opening though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsskkT3HJwU
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>>381217636
On the 21st japan time, so my guess is expect shit later between tonight and early morning if in burgerstan.
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>>381221352
yeah final bout, it was ok, you should never expect great quality from licensed games anyway
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>>381221234
>>goku ACTUALLY "black"
>yfw Goku black has an alt skin that makes him black
instant dayone
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>>381220669
Bardock is literal fanfiction tier and one of the most overrated characters in the franchise. Also the fact that you have to base bardock's moves of other games than the actual source material shows what a lost cause he is in the first place. And yes he looks exactly like Goku, but can play differently, so what. Get in line there are other characters that can also offer unique playstyles and gameplay WHILE not looking like a damn goku clone. Others already have given a good idea of what Yamcha can play like, mix up character with spirit ball and wolf fang fist as rekkas. Whereas with Bardock, you have to literally make up shit for him to be interesting, and unlike Bulma he doesn't deserve it nor would have a hypothetically interesting enough playstyle to warrant all that effort.
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>>381193781
Piccolo
Gohan
Captain Ginyu
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>>381221352
Damn is being years since I watched that intro. Also It is weird to have a game now that look as good as that intro.
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>>381221502
>you should never expect great quality from licensed games anyway
Don't be a conformist. Hyper Dimension was already a better game than Final Bout, and a lot of good DB have been made since then.
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>>381221548
>yfw Goku black has an alt skin that makes him black

>yfw they give Vegeta a super tanned color scheme
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>>381221548
>goku black has an alt skin that makes him white
>whitewash gets censored in the US
>mfw thats his original color scheme
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>>381221834
Forgot my picture
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>SUP DUDEZ! MAX H-
cool, I wanted to watch it on mute anyway.
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>>381193781
If my deam roster come true
>Kid Goku
>Roshi
>Bulma

If not
>teen Gohan
>Piccolo
>Krillin
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>>381195382
>implying
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>>381221063
They did say the beta would be for consoles but 2018 is still really far, I don't trust Arcsys on this at all.
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This looks like the Naruto Storm of DBZ.
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>>381221771
Adding on to that, for every UB22 and Final Bout, you also get Shin Butoden and interesting titles like Idainaru Dragon Ball Densetsu.
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>>381193781
Piccolo
Kid Goku
Broly
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>>381222147
While playing nothing like the storm games.
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>>381221502
>you should never expect great quality from licensed games anyway
Shin Butoden would like a word with you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0oT6uYrMpA
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>>381222329
>>381221771

oh quit it with the leddit tier replies guys, having some good games doesnt mean the majority aint bellow average, not that I mind
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>>381221554
>Bardock is literal fanfiction tier
And he's still better written than Yamcha.

>And yes he looks exactly like Goku
Yes, and so would Mystic Gohan if you gave him Goku's hair, as well as Vegeta and nearly every other character with the similar build. It's only the hair.

>>>>>>>>>>but can play differently
>OP criticizes me for wanting Bardock, and claims he's a Goku clone
>he literally puts in Kid Goku as a character
nigga what? So we can't have someone who's only thing in common with Goku is hair, yet we can have two Goku's because one is just smaller? But we still couldn't have Goten, right?

>Others already have given a good idea of what Yamcha can play like, mix up character with spirit ball and wolf fang fist as rekkas.
Exactly like fucking Bardock with heat Phalanx
>hur durr that's from a vidya gaem
Well fuck me, his fighting style is from the special and OVA, and his fighting style is much more interesting than Yamchas. See Bardock vs Chilled.

>have to literally make up shit for him to be interesting
Except there's a shit ton of source material to pull from, and this game can easily turn his combo into a ki powered attack into a rekka like move, just like fucking Heat Phalanx which is already like that.
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>>381214619
>chiatzu but no 17
mad if true
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>>381222534
You know nothing of fighting games dude. Just stop.
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Don't give 381222498 any more replies.
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++381222498
>leddit tier replies
Is reddit/"leddit" the new "blown da fuk out but gotta save face" reply keyword now? I've been away for a few months. Also, no U's for u.
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>tfw your a one piece fan

it makes so much money and cant get 1 good fuckin game
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The anticipation for the new character reveals today are making me nervous.
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>>381222708
Bait?
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>not coming to pc

dropped
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>>381222534
Kid Goku, if in the fame, is sl fsr removed from Goku though. Like Goku has more in common with every character revealed so far than a Kid Goku would. Also Kid Goku is iconic to the damn series for a large duration of the manga and is honestly a different character not just in moves, looks, but even personality. Goten is a literal blank slate.
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>>381223060
It is though.
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>>381223060
It will have Steam release, you fucking retard.
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>>381223003
>Gundam fan
>Lots of good games
>None of them get released here
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>>381223216
>>381223170
ty for spoonfeeding me faggots
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>>381223216
>It will have Steam release, you fucking retard.
Don't take this personally, but you probably should check your grammar before calling someone retarded. You're not wrong, just a heads up.
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>>381223248
Hey, at least Genesis and Breaker 3 got an english asian release, and versus IS getting released here.
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>>381223104
>Bardock is iconic to the damn series for a large portion of the fanbase and is honestly a different character not just in moves, looks, but even personality

No, I get you're talking about Goten right now, but my point was that someone would literally another Goku over a someone who's nothing like Goku, and then their only argument is that he's a "Goku clone." Goten is boring though.
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>>381223387
Versus is the only one that matters thankfully.
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>>381194519

That ending really caught me off guard.
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>>381222534
Heat Phalanx isn't a rekka. Heat Phalanx is a juggle move, Rekkas are rapid qcf attacks

In the case of this game though, Heat Phalanx is probably more useful.
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>>381223539
Dude, you can't compare bardock to kid goku. Kid Goku to Goku would literally have more differences than a fat buu and super/kid buu would. Arguing in bardock is like trying to argue both super buu and kid buu in the initial roster at least.
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>>381197341
It's better this way. Besides, the whole gimmick behind ssj3 is that its impossible to maintain for long. If we need ssj3 goku in game this is the sexiest way to do it.
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>>381223046
I don't think he is. To be honest I agree with him, if you've seen dragon ball from the beginning one can see that despite becoming a meme Yamcha does offer more variety gameplaywise/fight style wise than Bardock would. Hell any of the characters that were from before Z would bring in more variety as the show's fight choreography was more martial arts based before it went all to pretty much beam struggles, beam spam and teleports up the wazoo. From a fighting game perspective that makes more sense. That's not to say that Z didn't have it's share of nice fights though. It's not to say I dislike Bardock or anything either, hell I loved the fuck out of his TV special.
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>>381193781
Yamcha (Desert Bandit Consume)
Yamcha (Baseball Costume)
Yamcha (Beige Suit Costume)
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hey dudes can anyone point me to where to read or download nice hq translated manga of DB and/or DBZ. I downloaded a torrent and its just so old and awful
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>>381224014
Mangasee
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>>381194519
This video is great, especially SFV being Super Buff Trunks, but desu some of the guys Vegeta shot out aren't total shills. LI Joe thinks DBFZ looks great and just hopes the game has more depth than the demo which is incredibly likely, and Floe has said that MvCI looks like ass and says the tag system is the only thing saving the game from being bad.
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>>381224145
any download links?
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>>381223046
No.

You're obviously not very familiar with Fighting game archetypes and how ASW makes their games, and are clearly more concerned with the cannon, that a fun game. This isn't SF or MK where we have 12 Shotoclones or Ninja clones that all have subtle differences in fighting styles.

You made a comparison between Kid Goku and Bardock, do I'll break it down for you.

I already mentioned how the classic Kamehameha could curve, and chase opponents down, that already is a massive gameplay distinction, as that move now becomes a powerful tool for Goku. Likewise, with the power pole, you give Goku the ability to be a sort of Zoner/Keep away character who is hard to hit due to his small size, and is very fast, as he's always been depicted as a speed fighter in DB. All of these combined all separate him considerably from anyone in so far, anyone who could make it in.

Now for Bardock. Well, his fighting style still focuses on the fundamentals of DBZ, flying, punches and kicks, and beamspam. Except Bardock is more ruthless than Goku. How does this separate him from the other 3 Saiyans? Vegeta especially? There's not much there going by canon. Piccolo can stretch his arms, can fire beams from his mouth, and even turn giant, Yamcha has the Spirit Ball and Rekka, Tien the Solar Flare, Multiform technique, etc... Broly is guaranteed to be the big burly grappler, etc... ASW isn't gonna copy made up shit from other devs, those people have failed at making a proper DBZ fighter. They're gonna do their own thing, and see what works. Bardock's lack of uniqueness really hurts him despite his popularity. He's just ANOTHER Saiyan. That's also why Callifa probably won't get in either.

If you wanna understand the mindset of competitive fighters, do some deeper reading into the archetypes. At their core, you got:
Balanced
Rushdown
Zoner
Grappler

And these can further break down into stuff like, Glass Cannons, Zone Breakers, Duo Characters, Counter Users, etc...
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>>381223885
i'm talking just about the post where he says "you don't understand fighting games" I'm not the anon he's arguing with either, I just thought that statement was retarded
>>381224014
Madokami has all of the viz
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>>381224432
>Madokami
How do I login?
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>>381224373
alright see this is what you should've posted, originally
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>>381224631
https://manga.madokami.al/READ.txt
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Rate the roster (Nappa and Raditz are there because i forgot anyone else to use)
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will he get in?
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>>381224932
no
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>>381224932
Let's visualize an scene:
>both Champa and Beerus get in
>you pick Beerus, the other guy picks Champa
>fight starts
>you are both kicking the shit out of the other
>suddenly, Universe starts to collapse
>"If two Gods start to fight each other, their respective universes will be destroyed"
>oh SHIT
>fight ends with Universes 7 and 8 tearing apart
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>>381224647
I wasn't the guy you were arguing with. I left the conversation after explaining the classic Kamehameha, and posting the clip from DB.

For real, if you have a chance, give classic DB a chance. It's my favorite of the whole franchise:

https://youtu.be/z53k5lIzZAA
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How assmad will Supercucks be when none of their fanfiction makes the roster?
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>>381224920
0/10
too many Saiyans.
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How was Budokai not a proper fighting game?
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>>381225242
Golden Frieza is already in, which means that Beerus and SSJBlue are guaranteed to show up.
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>>381224920
>>381224920
Nope, you could safely slash away the entire bottom two rows, except for Yamcha, maybe Nappa, and Beerus.
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>>381225237
and i'm not the guy he was arguing with either, I've read all of dragon ball I n=know about bending Kamehamaha's and Kid Goku is always my most wanted character for any dbz game
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>>381225242
They said there would be characters from OG, Z, Super and even GT.
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>>381194010
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>>381225584
>from OG, Z, Super and even GT.

Oh neat. Source?
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>>381225584
>>381225760


they said they wanted to reach all generations of dragonball fans, witch is very vague
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>>381193781
Cell
Vegeta
Probably some cute gril or Horseradish.
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>>381225392
Capsule system was way too complex for a competitive setup (you'd have to assign an arbitrary loadout for every character or take forever letting every player set one up for themselves) and the roster wasn't exactly balanced. Plus Budokai 3's ultimate moves were literal guessing games.

I mean, there are some scenes in Mexico and South America and shit because DBZ is really popular, but they aren't the kinds of games that would get into EVO or other majors as a top game. Really good games, just not something that could have a traditional competitive scene form.
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>>381225760
>Q: Is it possible to see characters from other Dragon Ball, like GT?
A: For that we will consider fan’s feedback.
It's not exactly a confirmation, but they also aren't denying them.
http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2017/06/14/dragon-ball-fighter-z-is-only-20-percent-complete-dont-expect-kamehameha-battles/
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>>381224753
Jesus this is confusing to register. Still cant get it
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>>381225392
It doesn't even have combos or high low blocking.
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>>381226086
keep at it senpai, I'm 100% retarded and I got in
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>>381226236
Im on Rizon but it says I cant join madoka chat unless i register on here and i dont get that?
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>>381225452
nah, he'd be getting rid of Bardock, that'd be stupid considering he's better than yamcha in every way.
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>>381226490
you have to register an irc name, there are tutorial's out there for that too if the info isn't in madokami's txt file, I don't remember how do do it since I don't use irc
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>>381226803
>Super Saiyan Bardock
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>>381226103
>It doesn't even have combos or high low blocking.
Tenkaichi 3 does.
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>>381225392
Arena fighters are fun, and they do a good job of capturing the feel of DBZ battles, but they make for poor competitive fighters due to mechanical simplicity, poor balance, and little variety in character playstyle.
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>>381227784
But we're talking about Budokai specifically.

The Tenkaichi tiles are as far removed from traditional fighting games
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I did it!
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>>381228173
nice
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>>381226103
>It doesn't have combos
Wrong. There were different combos for each character, both to execute a technique and just normal combos. Also you can do a combo cancel by blocking then starting a combo again. Not an argument at all.
>or high low blocking
You do have a point there though, even if it wasn't necessary.
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>>381228072
>Budokai
>Arena Fighter
You're thinking of Tenkaichi anon.
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>>381228256
What Budokai had weren't real combos they were just pressing the same buttons over and over while sometimes adding in other buttons.
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>>381224920
>super saiyan bardock
you just had to ruin it
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>>381226883
>>381226236
>>381224753
>>381224432
This is an incredible site. Thanks bros
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>>381228483
Isn't that technically a combo? Also don't get me with your Budokai Tenkaichi is better bullshit because it was "charge up to blue ki and spam Square: the game"
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I am not into Dragonball but I showed this to a friend who is into Dragonball a lot and he said it doesn't look that impressive.
Too few characters. Repeated animations over and over again and you are forced to use 3 characters so the few characters that are there are going to be even more overused.
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>>381193098
man they did teen gohan justice
complete badass like he should be
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>>381228548
I recommend downloading a comic book reader app as well, it's my personal favorite way to read manga
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>>381228680
Well tell your friend he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about
>Too few characters
20% complete, it's going to have a ~30 character roster
>Repeated animations
>Overused animations
Nigga this is a fighting game
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>>381228680
>friend says there's no character variety
>game's literally 20% done at this point
>not that impressive
He just limits himself to watch DBS, doesn't he?
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>>381228680
He sounds like he has shit taste but
>Repeated animations over and over again
That's literally every anime license game. EVERY SINGLE ONE
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>>381228654
No it's not a combo and BT is worse than Budokai anyway. To me a combo allows for creativity and variation and neither series offered that.
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>>381228680
>Too few characters
I expected this reaction from people who come at the game from the DBZ fandom side. That said, holy shit it's a demo of a 20% complete build, what does he expect from it?
>Repeated animations over and over again
Literally any fighting game of any sort has this. Every DBZ game has this. The fuck kind of criticism is this?
>you are forced to use 3 characters so the few characters that are there are going to be even more overused
It'll launch with around 24 characters which is plenty for this kind of game, and with DLC & updates it'll definitely hit the mid-high 30s.
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>wanting different forms to take an entire roster spot
You casual cucks are fucking cancer. This is 5x worse than Persona Arena was announced. I just want them to finally complete the roster so you faggots will shut the fuck up finally.
>b-but muh super buu
>b-but muh super saiyan blue
>b-but muh 5 different gohans
kys niggers
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>>381228654
Not that guy but I think he's trying to say that Budokai didn't have "true" combos but rather pre-built strings built into each character.
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>>381228680
>Too few characters
It's a demo.

>Repeated animations over and over again
Like what? Every DBZ game has repeated animations. Tenkaichi 3/RB1/RB2 all used animations from Tenkaichi 2 and Tenkaichi 1. Budokai 3/2/1 has practically every character using the same animations.

>forced to use 3 characters so the few characters that are there are going to be even more overused.
Doesn't make sense. If you don't use the assist system, each round K.O is essentially another match. Even with asists, it adds depth to the game. This point makes 0 sense.

>doesn't look that impressive
Under what pretense? This is one of the most impressive looking DBZ games of all time.
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>>381228962
>That's literally every anime license game. EVERY SINGLE ONE

Anon that's every game ever period.

>Press A
>Character jumps

>Press A
>Charcter jumps again

WTF it's just the same shit over and over again!
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>>381228896
I got that. Im well knowledgeable about all this stuff but irc chat shit was a new one for me.
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>>381229080
What game does allow you to make combos then? Marvel vs Capcom 3?
Also,
>BT is worse than Budokai anyways
Couldn't say it better, my nigga.
>>381229143
Yeah, now I understood what he meant.
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>>381229080
>a combo allows for creativity and variation
Yeah, you have never played Tenkaichi 2 or 3 in any serious sense that wasn't button mashing or beam spam. Tenkaichi 3 has a much better combo system than any of the 2D games released before it.
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>>381229261
>Like what?
Whenever a character jumps in those little skirmish cutscenes they have. He didn't like those.

Next time I shouldn't really relay information like this because he isn't here to defend his claims. It was just weird because he is the biggest Dragonball fan I know and he was so unimpressed when I see nothing but gushing over the game online.
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>>381193098
meh, fighting games stopped being fun when everyone started taking them seriously.
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>>381229530
casual scrub
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>>381229530
Video games stopped being fun once everyone started taking them seriously.
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>>381193781
18
Videl
Bulma

I trust Arcsys to make them as lewd as possible
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>>381229597
Life stopped being fun when everything became serious.
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>>381229387
Most traditional 2D & 3D fighters, yeah. You generally have more freedom to build combos from chains, links, special cancels, super cancels, juggles, etc. Capcom games, Tekken, other ArcSys games, Killer Instinct, and so on do this.
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>>381229080
>creativity and variation and neither series offered that
Tenkaichi 2/3 are without a doubt the most creative DBZ games when it comes to combos.
also:
>BT is worse than Budokai
As a series or the games individually? To play them at an advanced level, BT3 requires more skill than B3. However BT3 is infinitely easier to just press square and Blast 2.
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>>381229530
t. beta cuck
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>>381229724
>>381229476
Show me the combos
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>>381229724
>BT3 requires more skill than B3
Fucking this. Because BT3 is an arena fighter, people instantly assume it has no depth and think it's just a button masher. BT3 has more mechanics than B3, and the mechanics are much harder to master because they require frame specific timing, B3 is very lenient with that.
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What is /v/'s opinion of Beerus?
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>>381218454
/v/ has some misplaced hate for youtubers. They will go on about some small flaw whenever a youtuber becomes popular. This place is contrarian and will jump on the opportunity to seem underground.
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>>381230019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FAzWd4W738
Starts at (0:30)
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>>381230384
DUDE FOOD LMAO
Can't wait for Goku to surpass his ass.
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>>381230517
Those are harder to pull off than B3 combos. B3 combos are usually just a loop. All you need to know is what string and whether or not you're gonna guard cancel or backdash cancel. XV2 has more in depth combos than B3.
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>>381229098
I didn't do that >>381214619
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As excited as I am for this game, if I can't play as Goku motherfucking Black I ain't gonna buy it right away.
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>>381230517
Alright alright I can definitely see there is uh something going on here despite how weird it looks.
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>>381198894
>>381201895
They might have "said themselves" that they don't want that but that's a load of shit. Everyone knows they're at least gonna have the Blue forms of Goku and Vegeta and probably Black as well.
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>>381231095
Good. A casual fuck like yourself would probably play 2 hours of sp, get fucking bodied online and then uninstall.
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>>381230384
mary sue
I don't really watch the new series though, just the movies
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Beta should've been July, not August.
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>>381217734
>god's light
moot already abandoned us
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>>381198894
Good thing Black looks nothing like Goku then, since Black would be in his base form while Goku starts off in Super Saiyan.
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>>381231983
Only base form saiyan should be Bardock.
Black would be in his pink form.
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>2D

Call me when they make a Tenkaichi sequal.
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>>381232103
Bardock ain't gonna be in the game you Toeishitter.
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>>381232307
You got Xenoverse, make some donutsteels
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>>381232307
Ok.
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>>381232361
I haven't played Xeno. Looked lame to me. Is it even close to being as good as Tenkaichi 3?
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>>381232307
>>381232476
Tenkaichi sucks anyway.
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>>381207081
Which future trunks? Purple or blue hair?
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>>381232354
>Bardock
>2nd most popular toriyama-designed toei-written character
>not gonna make it in
Bardock and Broly practically sell merchandise themselves. Thinking one of them wont be in is kinda understandable, but both of them not being in is impossible.
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Everybody is jerking off to this game, but I think the animations need work. A lot of it is just static frames. There need to be way more frames of animation, it looks incredibly choppy like they ported one of the old SNES dbz games to hd.
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Remind that SSB Goku, Vegeta and Vegetto will be reskins rather than separate characters
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>>381232708
Done on purpose.

Game runs on 60fps but in some scenes, supers or animation the models don't move for a few frames to simulate the choppy old animation from the cartoon.
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>>381232708
That's on purpose to mimic the look of 2D. The missing frames would usually be filled in by a computer, and they just skip that step.
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>>381232708
No bro, it's meant to look like 24fps. more cinematic.
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>>381232476
Xeno 1 and 2 are essentially the successors to the Tenkaichi games.

>>381232708
That's an intentional design choice. It's so you can read the attacks properly. Lrn2Fighting games.
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>>381232708
>A lot of it is just static frames
Kinda right. Looking at it now, some frames barely have any difference. But I don't mind because they are in situations where it has another animated effect(like aura) or they're getting hit. It's fine, and the low framerate is intentionally. Looks fine to me.
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>>381233080
>Xeno 1 and 2 are essentially the successors to the Tenkaichi games.
Have you actually played Tenkaichi or are you just saying that because they're both 3D arena fighters? The differences between Xenoverse and Tenkaichi are just as drastic as the difference between Budokai and FighterZ.

They aren't even remotely the same. Raging Blast 1 and 2 are the successors, not Xenoverse.
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>>381232708
Yes they should increase the fps of animations so no one can tell what's going on.
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>>381193781
Smug Cell
Yamcha
Tenshinhan, The Strongest Human
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Any word of movie characters being in? I need Frieza's brother because he's cooler.
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>>381198437
>Punished Gohan will never be saved from Future Hell and assrape the twink out of Present Gohan
why are we here?
only to suffer?
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>>381233505
Nothing, but Broly is a shoe in. He fills the Grappler archetype, and is incredibly popular both in Japan and the west.
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this looks like shit.
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>>381225430
Golden Frieza is in because it was in a DBZ movie.
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>>381216892
>>381216953
>>381217636
It apparently already leaked, it's nothing. But perhaps there'll still be something else attached. We'll see, just don't get your hopes up.
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>>381234248
Beerus and SSB Goku were in the same movie
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>>381225430
>Beerus
They should keep that piece of shit out
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>>381233970
best looking game in the past 5 years, so either way it's good by comparison.
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>>381195072
>Xenoverse fans are this booty blasted

How can they ever recover?
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>>381234324
I think I saw that same page when it was announced. Unless they're so samey it got me confused.
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>>381234324
Dumbass.
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>>381230384
I kind of like him and how he Whis come off as a couple of sassy homos
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>>381194519
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>>381230384
Hasn't fought since his own arc and is only for shitty food jokes and "Lord Beerus sure is dangerous guys!" scenes. Really just has been obnoxious as fuck since he showed up
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>>381231983
>Black looks NOTHING like Goku
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>>381236013
Dude, that's like saying Vegeta looks like Goku.
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>>381236013
Please do not argue with Supercucks. They are quite literally retarded so you will get nowhere.
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>>381194519
>that ending
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>>381221197
I expect Slayer-esque shenanigans.
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>>381193098
This looks awesome, it's like Budokai 3 meets MvC2.
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>>381221197
Can't wait until Super introduces the race/class that is superior to Whis'.

And then the one above that. And then the one above that.
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>>381237670
So Zeno?
Who is the top dog of DB's godly hierarchy?
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>Take fighting game from the 1990s
>Slap DBZ skins over top of it
>Get praised as a savior of gaming

I wonder what else you idiots would salivate over. Maybe if Hearthstone had Yugioh characters you faggots would eat that up too.
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>>381237982
Yoooo nigger, fighting games from the 1990s are the fucking best.
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>>381236435
Vegeta does look like Goku. Saiyans are worse than the Rural Chinese.
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>>381237982
Let me guess, you're one of those retarded Sonygros that think that games should change for the sake of changing.
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>>381237982
Bait, but I do hope this game gets its own identity amd isn't just guilty gear x mahvel with dbz skins.
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>DBFZ thread
>people arguing over DBZ, roster, Maximilian Dood and laughing at MvCI

>MvCI
>people arguing how shit it will be and whether Nova is MCU character or not
Really makes you think.
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>>381193098
Call me old-fashioned or nostalgic or whatever, but Budokai Tenkaichi 2 on the Wii is still my favourite DBZ fighting game. It had a story mode going from the very beginning to the end of GT. It had a crazy roster of characters to choose from and upgrade with items and levels and it was easy to pick up for beginners and amazing to master if you put the time into it. And it also had a variety of modes, so if you got sick of Story Mode, you went to the Battle Tower to train your favourite characters and win money and rare items while unlocking more challenges. They also really used the Wii controllers right in that one. I never picked up Budokai Tenkaichi 3 for Wii, but I heard they simplified the combat a little in that one.

Also, I'm just not a fan of 2D fighting games. I know a lot of people are really happy with this new game coming up, but it's just not for me. I'm still waiting for DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 4.
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