Holy fuck lads, this game is hardcore as hell. Bought it during

>>381137647
probably the best blob combat ever

Pls don't purge

It's pretty fun but you'll find yourself figuring out cheesy tactics and getting used to using them to make your way through the game, and it kind of ruins later areas.

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>>381137647
Anon..... We're not actually suppost to talk enthusiastically about games on /v/, Only start flame war & waifu threads.

Is this a good entry point for a newfag to the series?

>>381141367
Absolutely. They're all standalone games, similar to the ultima series most of the crossover/overlap comes from references, re-appearing NPCs/items/skills, and the like.

8 is arguably the best wizardry game too, it's early, low poly 3D and just a general improvement from older games gameplay. Less bullshit. If you've ever played legend of grimrock, it's comparable to that.

>>381141367

I think so. It's my first game of this series as I said and I seem to be doing okay. The game does a great job telling you what every stat or skill does (just right click) so you can easily figure out if things would work well even if you never played before.

From what I understand the game barely has any useless stats (except like Strength for casters) so that's kinda cool, you feel more free when allocating points.

Is Gregor the ultimate casual filter?

>>381137647
>My party is :
>no gadgeteer
Gadgeteer+Bard is the way to go.That way you have two ''spellcasters'' that don't need no mana.

>>381140652
kek, perfect gif to show that

Hope you have the Wiz8fast mod.

>>381142503

I considered Gadgeteer but I felt like I needed to have an offensive caster.

Also one thing I don't get, what does Artifacts actually do? I thought it could be used to ID items but so far none of the unids I found were identified with the skill (or I dunno how to do it) so I had to use a spell.

What do you think of Bard's Tale IV?
Will Inxile deliver this time?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdOlts5srGM

>>381142869
>what does Artifacts actually do
It helps you identify items and it also helps you use items like scrolls and shit if i remember correctly.

Throwing help you use powders and bombs i am mentioning this so you don't drop a cherry bomb in your feet committing sudoku.

>>381142503
Gadgeteer is great because it also allows your Rogue to focus on murdering things instead of disarming traps and lockpicking.

>>381143235

Yeah I fucked up once had my Fairy psionics use her fairy powder and she just put the whole party to sleep.

Also is backfire a set chance or higher power spells have a higher chance to fuck up?

>>381143285

My Rogue has literally no points in Combat skills (other than natural increases) and just murders everything while my actual melee girl (Valkyrie) hasn't been able to hit a single thing yet. Are polearms low accuracy as fuck or what?

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Hi

>>381143506
YAMERO

I should continue that game, but I got kinda stuck in the first town.
I wasn't sure where to go.

>>381142869
>I felt like I needed to have an offensive caster
Your ranger will get alchemy spells later on and the valkyrie will get divine spellcasting.

You should look up on what does what in the creation screen/manual.

Also alchemist get healing early on so you can forgo the cleric depending on what you are going for.

>>381143732

Is Valkyrie worth it though? So far she'S by far my most useless character, everybody else pulls their weight except for her. Even my PRIEST has more kills (and some are with her staff). My Valkyrie has a lot of Strength and Dex and I only boosted her Polearm and Close Combat skills. So I can't figure out why she can't hit. Is it a positioning thing? Should I put her in the back or something? Kinda considering restarting with a Fighter or a Samurai.

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I still haven't fininshed the game because I keep trying to play with a 6 gadgeteer party

first run ended at Gregor, second run I actually made it to Trynton but the rape at Trynton was too much for my patience and haven't played since

I should replay it with an actual non meme party some time

>>381143959
Does she have enough dexterity? All your fighters in this game are gonna be QUALITY builds, so just pumping STR is gonna make you miss a lot.

>>381143447
>Also is backfire a set chance or higher power spells have a higher chance to fuck up?
Your spell gauge should change its color depending on the likelihood of you failing a spell.Higher level spells will have higher chance of failing so you'll have to level up your magic skills in order to cast them safely.

>>381144116
>381144116

Oh, didn't realize the color meant anything. I thought each power level had its color is all. Good to know, my priest one shot herself with Make Wound once.

>>381144070

Well I pump dex in her every level. So is Strength not a good stat? Does it contribute to damage at all? For my Ranger I'm going Dex and Int (And Sense) and it seems to be doing good.

>>381144301
STR is needed, it affects all physical weapons AND bows. Basically you need to max out DEX first, then go STR.

>>381144497
It depends on what you are going for.You can do a speed/dex build for maximum amount of hits if you have proc effects on your weapons or % chance to instakill like some classes do.

>>381144719
P.S. but that usually means you'll need a cleric to boost your stamina back or a big stamina pool cus hitting a lot can drop you unconscious on the ground :^)

>>381144015
>I still haven't fininshed the game because I keep trying to play with a 6 gadgeteer party
GO GO GADGET!!4U!!!

There are not enough special items for the gadgeteer early on to equip 6 gadgeteers. Hell, there is not enough special ammo spread six ways to utilize your gun either.

Might and Magic 6 best game

Fuck that sounds pretty fun. Might get into it myself.

>>381144719

Wait speed allows to hit more than once a turn? Holy fuck, I assume my rogue did that only cause she was dual wielding.

>>381146058
Well i just re-downloaded it.I bought it back in the day during an insomnia sale.

>>381146015
I like 7 more, also 8 has best atmosphere. My favourite thing from these games is paperdoll. No other game compares really with dressup game in M&M. Why the fuck there is no modern high quality M&M8 clone with tones of equipment, weapons, armours and races to be fashionable?

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>COMBAT!
>1 Gregor

>>381137647
>grind on beach until I'm strong enough to clear the monestary
>get gangbanged by a dozen bandits as soon as I start walking down the road out
>I haven't even made it to the first town yet
balance in this game was really fucked though. at first magic is shit because you don't have enough mp for anything, then it's op for a few levels, and then it's shit because everything resists it. by the end of the game everything was unkillable without instant death procs.

>>381143959
valkyrie is one of the best later on because there's a spear that has a stun proc.

>>381146808
It does, yes. So does dexterity, albeit to a lesser degree.
Speed and then dex is god tier on classes with Critical Strike like Samurai or Ninja. Others too if you get something with a proc chance.

Also protip: if you reach 100 in an attribute, you unlock a special skill for that character that can boost the relevant stat even further.

>check mob list
>giant spiders

CAN I PLAY ONE FUCKING FANTASY GAME WITHOUT ALL THIS NOPE IN IT

>>381146808
It's a little bit more complicated.
It affects the number of attacks AND the number of swings.
Speed is a pretty good stat.

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>>381137647

>Mod the shit out of my copy
>fuck up somewhere
>can't figure out where I messed up
>can't leave the first room
>uninstalling the game doesn't fix it
>deleting the game files somehow doesn't work either

That'll teach my dumbass to buy old games from steam. I really miss it, though.

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>>381148067

>>381148042
Giant spiders are pretty meh on the creepy scale when compared to some of the other critters in this game.

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>>381137647
You guys like good dungeon crawlers? This one is a Spacepunk themed CRPG and plays pretty much like Wizardry but completely updated to modern times. Great fucking shit yo. Look up Starcrawlers and thank me later.

>80% GOG sale

First game I've bought in awhile.

>>381148545
I see that you've never played Wizardry 8.

A game from 2001 is to this day the only one of it's kind.A turn base dungeon crawler with actual 3D combat.

So don't go shilling your meme to me.

>>381148139

On that, is the reforged mod even worth trying to fix? Or should I just get wiz8fast and call it a day?

Bestiary link anyone?

>>381148919
>A game from 2001 is to this day the only one of it's kind.A turn base dungeon crawler with actual 3D combat.

Oh brother you're such a fucking contrarian faggot. Get the fuck out you stupid hipster.

>not running solo faerie ninja

>>381148919

That's Grimrock with numbers, bro.

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>>381137647
Still mad about the level scaling tho

>water level
>suddenly the loch ness monster appears

>>381149472
>you barely beat her
>no Excaliber in the chest she guards

>>381137647
Good to see newcomers to the Wizardry series. Make sure you check out Wizards & Warriors, which is one of the previous developers version of 8 basically

>>381149117
>>381149359
Suck a dick faggots.In Grimrock when you have enemies infront of you and behind you and the enemies shoot you but miss...tell me is there a chance for them to hit the enemies behind you?

Faggots like you never played real 3D dungeon crawler ever.

>>381150063
I've played Wizardry and they're great games but now it's outdated garbage now and more developers can refine it even better now. Get out of the fucking past you stupid loser, it's old and outdated.

>>381148545
>>381149117
>>381149359
Wiz 8 isn't grid-based.

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Wizardry 8 is fucking amazing and a proper evolution of the genre too bad it came too late alogn with M&M and Ultima failing these proper rpgs just ind of faded away
modern "rpgs" dont have shit on wizardry

>>381150381
>he didn't pay the toll
Nice.

>>381150307
>and more developers can refine it even better now
>it's old and outdated
It is literally the most innovative dungeon crawler ever.
See this >>381150323.It is the only one of it's kind and today's developers only spew out outdated garbage that uses Wizardry 7 as a template since they are too lazy to develop an engine like the one in Wizardry 8.

>>381150307
Starcrawlers and Grimrock are outdated when compared to Wiz 8.

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Characters and party banter are still the best
The rat mafia, the military rhino's with the cool jazz sax player in the bar you can recruit even the goofy stuff like nessie and honestly the way the story plays out is deus ex tier with everything you do taking you down a certain path and the game gives you loads of options

Just starting out myself. Any must have classes? Psionics sound like they're job is crowd control, right?

>>381151382
Don't forget that the game also had boobs jiggle :^)

>>381151903
>Psionics sound like they're job is crowd control, right?
Uhh...not really.All casters have their own brand of crowd control.Different spell schools are effective against different foes.

>>381151903
Psionics are just another flavor of mages with a different repertoire of spells. A bard is a good class to have, since his instruments can be pretty powerful, don't use mana and are reusable.

>>381152152
Same goes for gadgeteers.

>>381151903
>Any must have classes?
Not really.If you build your characters well and you use different classes and not just the same class repeated over and over you should have no problem with the game.

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the only wizardry i ever played was wizardry 5 for snes, complicated as fuck if you dont have the manual

Beat this game a couple of months ago and I liked it a lot. There were a few things here and there that were annoying like:

The battles can be painfully slow, especially if you're fighting more than 6 enemies. Just waiting for the computer to think things through can be a bitch. Exploring and especially backtracking can get real slow, since enemies respawn and they level scale. This combined with how hard it can be to avoid enemies sometimes really grinds the game down. It definitely isn't a game you play in a hurry, you have to take your time. Overall, however it was pretty enjoyable. Love the small goofy touches, like elementals in a can.

>>381153117
>Exploring and especially backtracking can get real slow, since enemies respawn and they level scale.
You can run your whole party with shift and be in stealth with chameleon casted on.

>>381153765
I know, but I would still encounter enemies more often than I'd like. Maybe I was just doing it wrong.

>>381151903
you can honestly play the game with any combination but if you can't get past the tutorial area or have trouble with it you should consider restarting a caster that can cast the magic shield and armour spells is an absolute must at some point
>>381152803
8 is the only one that doesn't require the manual just right click on anything and you will get just about everything you need to know about it, Its fucking beautiful
>>381153117
only 2 problems with it are the combat speed that makes the wizfast mod a must and enemy spells affecting your whole party even though some of yours only affect a single enemy or grouping.
by the time you need to backtrack anywhere you should have access to the markk/recall spells or teleporters maybe.

>play wizardry 6
>took a couple of restarts to really understand and get into the game
>end up loving it
>hyped as fuck to play 7, which I always heard was the best in the dark savant trilogy
>start it
>everything is a fucking slog
>combat is slow
>can't just have your party auto attack anymore or they'll start attacking rows with no enemies
>menus are a pain in the ass


God damn, if I'm not having any fun yet, is it worth it to keep playing? Should I just skip to 8?

>>381154027
Yeah, Portal is a life saver, though I'd like it more if it worked like Town Portal in Might and Magic.

Wizardry 8 came out the same year as halo

>>381154027
>enemy spells affecting your whole party even though some of yours only affect a single enemy or grouping
What???

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>mfw kirinjutsu hits a boss

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>>381147013
7 didn't feel as well designed with how its less open right off the bat and the skill system felt poorly implemented but its still a great game.

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>>381154607
yup
>>381154594
wizardry 8 literally came out the day before halo

Anyone here play a party from the beginning of Wizardry 6 all the way to the end of Wizardry 8? I really like you can do that. Shame not many games have something like that, if you exclude really old rpgs that is.

>>381155523
most impressive thing about that is that Wizardry 8 was released 9 years after 7 and it still allowed save import, complete with alternate beginnings

>>381155214
>yup
You are confused.

>>381155982
>no Wizardry 9 to import your save into

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>>381156012
offensive spells
>>381155982
there are sidequests in wizardry 8 that can only be completed if you have items obtained in wizardry 6
sirtech really were wizards

>>381155214
>that image
FUCK me

How do you guys play this without freaking out?

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>>381156254
it even lets you save at the end
>tfw no Wizardry 9 where your entire party is made of gods

7>6>8

>>381156701
Don't worry it'll come out in 2021, so you better dust off your 20 year old save by then. And it better have items from Wizardry 6 for those side quests!

If I've never played an oldschool rpg should I try to start with 6 so I can go through 8, or just start with 8?

>>381157312
Play Might and Magic first then play Wizardry. You can grab all of them for free off the /vr/ HoMM general from the pastebin and it has tips.

>>381157312
6 is pretty hardcore for a newbie. I'd suggest trying out 8, since it has a very friendly user interface (everything is explained by a right click). Or you could dive balls deep into 6, but I'd suggest reading the manual or a walkthrough first.

>>381157312
6 is definitely worth playing, but 8 more beginner-friendly

I tried to get into M&M but the beginning seems very rough especially for a beginner. I always get instantly slaughtered as soon as I attempt combat.

>>381157203

True dat. Bradley's writing is supreme. I do agree - 7 is a slog and sometimes you have no sense of direction where to go. On the other hand the mystery of Guardia is so fucking good, you soon forget that.

Either way - I'm trying to go through the entire series starting with 6 with all-female party (You know why.) Rawulf Valk, Dracon Sam, Felpurr Bard, Faerie Ninja, Elf Bishop, Mook Psionic. So far, it's slow as fuck and the first levels of the castle are just bad when you can't open any damn doors. But I know that in 8 I will get the ultimate prize.

>>381151903
the main things are that you want a character that can heal and at least 2 characters that can learn the portal spell. it also helps to have at least one character that can do alchemy. other than that you want to fill up your party with characters who have some way of causing instant death.

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>>381148545
>Spacepunk

Stop making up stupid genres, its just sci-fi you little faggot. Spacepunk, what a maroon.

>>381157920

Start with 4&5, Vertigo is insanely light. 3 - Isles of Terra is gonna get your ass whipped pretty hard if you don't cheese.

>>381157312
wizardry 8 or M&M 6 are super easy to get into
if you are completely new, grimrock is pretty good for easing players in too but it's not the same type of tactical combat rpg instead taking cues from dungeon master/eye of the beholder

>>381141679
6-8 are a trilogy but the games are pretty good about letting you start wherever. If 6 wasn't so shitty I'd play a party through all 3

>>381157931
>(You know why.)
No I don't

I played 6? I think, a snes version in my cellphone. It was fun.

I really miss the the positioning in this game. The fact you can get flanked from different sides. Shame haven't seen a blobber since 8. 8 was the pinnacle of adding new ideas to blobbers then it stopped there.

>>381142245
The road to Arnika is probably more of one

>>381142906
>Will Inxile deliver
lmao

Why do japs love Wizardry so much?

>>381158281
Lotsa end game items are female only, especially in 6, while the only male only item is in 6, so it makes sense to have as many females as possible.

The real reason is because he wants to have lesbian sex in 8.

>>381158496
I would rather outright ignore that part and park a teleport to skip that stupid rapax palace.

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>>381158281

When you become a Rapax Knight, Al-Seduxus will want a male companion, if you have no male PCs, you can use a male RPC instead like Miles. If you have no male RPCs...

>>381156454
>offensive spells
There are enemy spells who affect only a single party member too.The only difference is that their cone spells will always ''get you'' since your party is clumped in a circle.

>>381158481
they don't actually like it all that much the games are pretty niche

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>>381137647
>RPG
>"hardcore" as hell

Pick only one.

>>381158690
>having sex with an ultra mega slut with a vagina as wide as the grand canyon

>>381158481

> No Rawulfs
> No Felpurrs
> No Mooks
> No Faeries
> No Dracons
> No Lizardmen
> No Aeon long game of 21D chess.

They sure "love" them alright

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>>381158481
Fuck no. If they love it so much, they would have use all the races in the Wizardary series instead of these abomination. For fuck sake, the fairy could be a mini race but they out right create OC mini race instead.

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>>381158882
Japan took out everything I loved about the newer Wizardry games and turned the series into a shittier version of Might and Magic

>>381158846
It's a real rpg rather than the glorified adventure game J"rpg"s I assume you're familiar with

>>381137647
>lads
>hardcore as hell

Why is the UK so full of fags? Also the character progression and combat in Wizardry 8 is amazing, but boy is literally everything else about that game just pure awful. Go play Might and Magic 3-8 and Wizardry 1-4(DOS) next. Might and Magic 6 onwards is basically a cross between a blobber and Doom.

>>381158882
This. They're into the old ones i.e. pre-6. The closest one I've played was Elminage Gothic. It had Dracons and Faeries, but none of the rest and it still played more like 1-3, with all things that came with it like the abilitiy to lose stats when you level up.

>>381159340
>>381159096

Well here's an explanation for you guys:

In their eyes the pinnacle of the series was not the Savant trilogy, but Heart of Malestorm or whatever subtitle III had. HoM was written by Bradley but that was before he took LSD and gave birth to the cosmic plot.

So Japs have basically no love for what we love Wizardry for - the complex plot, decent combat, and lots of puzzles that require a shitton of thinking and digging up references.

>>381159594
At least they still remade 4 for the crazy/hardcore fans

>>381157312
Start with World of Xeen. It's pretty easy and if you like games that are really just about autisticly scouring every corner of the land and murdering everything like Gothic 2 or something it should draw you in pretty quickly.

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>>381159594
There always the other reason

>>381157931
>Faerie Ninja
Goddamn Canefags. It's like every fucking ninja has to be a gay little pixie.

>>381159984
I think you guys are blowing shit of proportions. I'm sure they love all those beast races too its just the market is not there. All their games are designed for otakus now because that what sells.

>>381159594
yeah I dunno why they are so autistic about classic wizardry, 6 is on snes and I think 7 was on ps1 but I guess they just didn't take off, hard to compete with the flashier final fantasy etc

>>381158690
aren't rapax weird dinosaur people?

>>381160075

I'm gonna go for Gorrors. If it wasn't him, I'd settle for an alchemist instead.

>>381159984

Why every fantasy game needs to be streamlined for 'mass appeal'?

>>381160512

Bane was a failure on SNES, Wiz 7 didn't sell well and well 8? Didn't even get ported.

>>381160542

Weird demon-like people.

Without saying Bishop, why are Mage, Priest, and Alchemist so damn weak?

>>381158058
The odd thing is that it actually has the punk themes that 99% of *punk genres are missing. It is still fucking retarded to call it spacepunk instead of sci-fi though

>>381160742

> Alchemist
> Weak

Immunity to silence wants to talk with you.

>>381160542
They're more demons, I think. Though they always looked like Minotaurs to me.

which might and magic games are good? I tried to play 8 I think when I was a kid, but I thought it would be like heroes of might and magic so I didn't get very far when I found out it was a normal rpg.

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>>381161008
3-8 are all good

>>381160742
Alchemist definitely isn't weak. Silence immunity and the ability to mix potions in the later games is stupid broken, and their spellbook has some very handy status spells

>>381159052
Porkul are renamed halflings.

>>381161008
>>381161073
Shame 8 was an unfinished mess of a game, I really liked the setting. How often do you see a town of Necromancers that aren't necessarily evil? Also having a legit flying dragon in your party was cool, even if he was a bit too broken.

>>381160858
>>381161114
Yeah but no one talks about the Alchemist compare to the Gadgeteer/Bard because lolnomana or the Bishop because that thing could take any spell ever

>>381161008

> 1&2

Masochists only. Just read up lore.

> 3

Hard for newbies. When you solve 4&5, come back to it. One of my favs due to lore

> 4&5

Best entry point. World of Xeen sucks a month or two out of a first time player

> 6

Rocky start with new engine

> 7

Best of the non-Corak games

> 8

It's that weird cousin... I like 8 for what it tried to do but execution is rough at times. Dragons break the game totally

> 9

We don't want to talk about that

> X

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>381161325
>How often do you see a town of Necromancers that aren't necessarily evil?
Guild Wars 1 and Diablo 2 comes into mind in regards to their necromancers. Then again, they're both made by the same developer.

>>381161442
>Rocky start with new engine
wtf?
mm7 was a buggy pile of shit on launch and mm6 is without an exaggeration the most polished RPG of 1998

>>381161676

Cut down in classes and races. New mechanics that weren't fleshed out. It was a rocky start anon.

>>381161442
which ones have surprise ufos at the end?

>>381161843

> Surprise UFOs
> M&M games

You know that the whole setting is a space opera?

>>381161781
how were they not fleshed out? all mm7 did was add restrictions on the existing skill system, neuter dungeons completely, and add redundant classes with mediocre skills because they didnt have enough time to polish
if you want to play arcomage you can just play 8

>>381142906
That was the most scripted and least genuine gameplay I've seen for a while.

The battle system (not that we actually saw the real system, since that was essentially a cutscene) looks kind of stupidly awkward too, I must say.

>>381161958
also don't get me wrong i like mm7 despite its faults i just think its the opposite of what you described

Someone post that image about Wizardry 4.

>>381142906
super fucking scripted and that combat looks kinda boring desu
>>381162482
watch this, it's not quite a review he just kinda rambles about it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQz_i6chNgY

>>381163039
>dfortae
Kek. I like how that guy doesn't so much review as he just rambles on about old games. Especially in the older videos where he's monotonous and sounds tired. Pretty comfy channel.

>>381142906
Why on earth did they make fucklong combat animations?
I get that they think they're being cute, but everyone will be combing the options menu for a speed slider after the first two fights.

Seriously, what the fuck happened to western RPGs? They went from hard as balls, high information games with thoughtful, if occasionally a bit cliche-ridden, stories to baby's first video game with trash tier writing.

Sure, there are still a few standouts, but nothing quite in the same vein as something like M&M, Wizardry or even Gothic.

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>>381164525
Mainstream console/gaming happen

Should I use recruitable NPCs? Do they affect exp gain for your party?

tfw can't waifu Al-sedexus.

I mean, I guess it's a nice touch that joining her is boring as hell though technically possible, but I like the idea of conquering the world for a demon queen.

>>381164837
If you like them, the problem is a lot (most?) of them won't follow you into the end game areas. Not entirely sure if they reduce your EXP

Any fix for random crashes on W10?

>>381165215
>Any fix for random crashes on W10?
I am playing the GOG version and it runs fine on win10 x64 pro.

>>381164837
>>381164837
>Should I use recruitable NPCs?
100% YES for the witty banter.Especially if you are playing for the first time.

I'd love to play Wiz 6 but it's super tedious to create your party, and it's also tedious to just play. I wish there was some way to play it with a better UI.

>>381137647
Wait til you get to Arnika Road. People recommend not levelling past a certain level in the first dungeon as you'll get absolutely raped by stronger mobs. But even if you don't, you'll still get raped.

>>381143959
One of the earliest, best and most story important RPCs you find is a Valkyrie, so you don't really need one of your own.

>>381165215
Uninstall windows 10.

>>381151942
Tell me more.

>>381164525
the same thing that happened to tabletop rpgs. the focus shifted from character building and dungeon crawling to "you can do anything" memes.

>>381166124
Emulate the SNES game with turbo enabled all the time. Bout as close as you'll ever get to the PC game without the horrible ear and eye rape. Too bad you can't import and there's a multiclassing bug.

>>381167294

What's the best way to play 7? PC?

>>381166707
Character building was way less important than you think it was.

>>381166674
There is also full blown nudity.But so few people have played the game that it was never censored.

>>381167532
This. But don't get your hopes up. It's a bit too polygony for proper fapping, unless that's your thing.

>>381166674
There is also a pseudo gore engine where enemies get more beat up and bloodied during the course of the fight.

So what do I miss if I play 8 without playing the other games?

Will my experience be diminished? Will I miss a lot of content?

>>381151382
I wish more game went the custom party + big and unique voice sets route. It's the best of both worlds - more character creation and customization without skipping out on all the personality premade companions bring.

>>381168174
>Will I miss a lot of content?
Wizardry 8 was created with the idea that you can start in it without having a previous party.So you should be fine starting with 8.
If you have the nerves you can drag your party trough all 3 games.

You can always watch all story bits from 6 and 7 on youtube.

>>381168174
Ideally you should at least play 7 but it can be pretty rough to play these days, 8 has a lot less bullshit (like having to train swimming to 10 in fountains so you don't party wipe in the first puddle you come across). You'll miss out on some plot but you can just look it up if you don't wanna play the first two in the trilogy

>>381168371
One of the things I like about Neverwinter Night 2: Storm of Zehir. I remember trying to do this with Oblivion and using all those voice mods on top of it.

>>381148545
I heard this gets insanely repetitive quickly.

>>381151903
Bishop, especially if you put in the time to grind all the spell skills.
Alchemist for money making.
Rogue/Fighter for massive physical damage.

>>381166124
DOS keyboard only there is also a mod for an automap window so you're not really missing much from the snes version
>>381167339
yeah PC I think Gold introduced some dumb bugs though
>>381168174
not really It's designed to accommodate a first time player, desu it's the only wizardry that doesn't require you to read the manual

How do you change classes in Wiz 8?

>>381169459
when you level up you can change to whatever class you want as long as you meet the stat requirement for the class you want to switch too

>>381169571

Is there any penalty for doing that? Otherwise what stops someone from switching to what'S needed?

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>>381162482

>>381170239
He really love to talk about them ninjas. Also do you guys actually use Ninja in your party and as what?

>>381170239
but they did remake wiz4 on ps1

>>381171296
It's easier. Trebor ghost doesn't follow you in real time and has automap functions. Also, the arranged mode allows you to control monsters directly.

>>381172171
I wish arrange mode was in English

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Grid-based dungeon crawlers are dogshit. Why can't more devs copy how Might & Magic 6 did it?

>>381173168
take that back grid based dungeon crawlers are great along with might and magic 6

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>>381173168
I like these more

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>>381173168

How does that sound guys :

Human Samurai
Human Ranger
Hobbit Rogue
Hobbit Gadgeteer
Elf Bishop

Not sure what I should do for last. I was thinking maybe a bard? Valkyrie maybe to have a full line of front liners?

>>381149418
OH YEAHHHH

>>381173553

Never managed to get into Daggerfall, maybe I need to give it another chance someday.

The fact that we will never get games like this again makes me mad

>>381175845

The sad part is that you could make a game like this with RPG Maker albeit some mechanic changes. I mean sure visually it might be less than stellar but it's doable.

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>>381137647
Whoa a wizardy thread that's alive on /v/

never thought I'd see that here

>>381175845
Like Wiz6-8? Never ever but Japan loves everything about 1-3 so there are a lot of Wizardry-likes with weeb shit. Also, Grimoire is finally coming out
http://store.steampowered.com/app/650670/Grimoire__Heralds_of_the_Winged_Exemplar/

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>>381174723
samurai
samurai
ninja
njnja
ninja
priest

>>381175265
There a few tips I would suggest
1) http://www.tesguides.com/tes2/ < Bookmark this page and learn to love it
2) Get Mark/Recall as magic or from an enchanted item. Place Mark on the entrance of any dungeon and use recall to get back to it when you think you're done
3) Loots are plentiful, so use the shitty one as breadcrumbs.
4) Try to set up your control to the WASD style if you're into that
5) If you're too scare to do the dungeon, start out in cemetery/graveyards first. They're essentially 2-5 room dungeons.
There many more tips like loitering is against the law and quest are timed, but you will get the hang of it and you might get immerse into the world more so than any Elder Scroll out there.

>>381137647
best blobber ever. fuck japanese scum

>>381176862
>loitering is against the law
Scratch that. Resting in town is against the law. Loitering is just waiting around. Basically, don't be a bum.

What is this gregor shit you keep panicking about? Let me guess, an unbalaced artificial difficulty mob? WOAH...

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did anyone play this mess of a game? holy shit i can't believe they slapped the Wizardry name onto this steaming pile of nightmarish garbage

>>381178579
I played through the beta & a little of live but lost interest after having to re-do all the leveling again on my thief I had a blast though

>>381177908
nah he's some spider thing that is basically the boss of the tutorial area, he usually kicks everyone's ass the first time you come across him though

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Pic related was the only wizardry I've played.

I liked it. Are the main games similar to this one?

>>381173168
I still don't understand why people enjoy massive maze dungeons like this.

>go down one hallway
>check all the rooms along it
>find another hallway
>have to guess whether there's more dungeon left that way or down the hallway you didn't go down before
>you guessed wrong so you have to backtrack all the way to find two extra rooms
how is this fun?

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>>381179140
True sense of exploration. It literally one of the key feature of Daggerfall I love. It helps that it also has secret doors and shit

Fuck RPGCodex.

>>381179851
why?

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>>381178948
it wasnt the worst mmo out there, but it had fuckall to do with classic Wizardry and i cant understand why they keep whoring the name brand out so hard


this game was at least similar in basic design to classic

>>381181440
Isn't that true with most game series convert to mmos these days?
>Guild Wars 2 is related to Guild Wars 1 by name
>ToR assrape KotoR's lore while killing SWG, but hey, Lightsaber!
>ESO undermine and fuck the Elder Scroll Lore
>wow pretty much kill Warcraft RTS

>>381178998
Wiz 8 is even better famalam, although ToTFL was pretty unique for what it was.

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How is Stranger of Sword City? I saw it on steam. Is it fun?

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>>381137647
*Throws sleep powder at you*

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>>381183417
i had fun up until the final dungeon. shit was so powerful that it required a ton of grindan and re-leveling up characters over and over that i just kinda lost interest

if you do get it, you better make your own character portraits for maximum lewd

>>381183417
It's alright, although you can abuse the reclass system to become super powerful in the second half. And you basically need to use it to get the anti-crit skill on everyone for that last dungeon

Did you guys made custom avatar/portrait for Wiz 8?

>>381179615
games with that kind of level design ruins the sense of exploration. exploration is like when you're looking around your hotel when you're on vacation. "exploration" is breaking into every room because you have a meta expectation that someone left a magic sword under his bed.

>>381183417
Gameplay rapidly devolves into spamming Tri-casted HIT/EV buffs until you max out both, at which point nothing can hit you (in the off chance an attack does connect only 1-2 hits will land doing minimal damage).

>>381141367
yeah, the 3D helps a lot making navigation easy and the dialogue is easy to follow.

The game is still hard but nowhere near as bullshit hard as the older games.
I still recommend a guide. Youll probably do fine on your own but once you hit the Island with the fish people youll get REKT without an optimized party

Also dont forget to recruit robotbro into your party

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Bard for fast camping healing and all those fucking great instruments
Ranger for constant scouting
Alchemist for free potions
Cleric---> Lord for dual wielding maces and stunning everyone.

>>381141679
>>381141679
Actually its a trilogy but you can enter at any point.
Fun fact, the dark savant will react to the fact that your party isnt imported at some point, and give you an item that the previous party has tricked you with, you need this to get the non fake version of that object

>>381142245
>>381158360
Nope, Crock is.

"So one of my guys got kidnapped, i only have this blue flower"

Because you gotta fucking remember the ground texture in front of his hut!
And then if you kill him, you dont know where marten is.

also

>Arnika road
Overlevel only slightly in the Monastary and Arnika road will spawn this HUGE stack of ants, lead by this queen ant who will destroy you

>Exploring first dungeon
>Giant crab thing behind a locked door
>Oh shit miniboss time
>Knock him unconscious and wail on him until it dies

Well then, anticlimatic but cool it can happen to these big guys,

>>381137647
>Bard
>blasting away crabs with a bagpipe

>>381187180
does FF14 have macros that enabled somebody to automate this or did they have to manually equip the gear during the gesture?

I remember when I was playing WoW on private servers some 10 or 11 years ago I thought I was really cool when I wrote a macro in game that would cast Shadowform and shout "BANKAI!" in the chat.

>>381157312
I started with 6, imported into 7, then imported into 8. If you're the kind of person with the patience for old RPGs then it's a great experience.

>>381189378
also I hope you like grey corridors because holy shit 6

I get it, technical limitations and all that, but damn. It's not a very short game either, so you're gonna be seeing them A LOT

>>381189583

EGA Graphics for you.

>>381187368

> Overlevel only slightly in the Monastary and Arnika road will spawn this HUGE stack of ants, lead by this queen ant who will destroy you

I had that "problem"

>>381187060

Robotbro is only good if you get the oil beforehand. Also no psionics from him sadly.

>>381137647
The starting areas and road to the first city are the casual filter to see if your party is going to hold up, if you're struggling early your party will never make to to the end

>>381189897
>>381187368
>Overlevel only slightly in the Monastary and Arnika road will spawn this HUGE stack of ants, lead by this queen ant who will destroy you

Or if you import from W7 you start at level 5 with only some of your OP items (I never could figure out the pattern with what items carried over) and that by itself is enough to have masses of bandits and ants and shit swarm you as soon as you set foot outside the starting area.

>>381190737

http://www.zimlab.com/wizardry/recovered/flamestryke/wizardry8/flamestrykes_w8.html

Look under import basics to understand how it works. It's tiered.

But overall the best import you can get is Mystery Ray.

>>381191028
Holy hell, since when that site is back up? The last time I try to access it, it doesn't exist.

Dragon Valk
Catboi Monk
Hobbit Gadget
Hobbit Bard
Fairy Alch
Elf Bishop

Sound workable? I sure am excited.

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>>381190737
>Getting cornered by 40 ants
It wasn't hard, but it was slow as hell when all of them had to take a turn.

>>381191487
Are you using the speed patch?

>>381178579
I got into the beta. It felt like I was in 2002 in the worst way. I can't believe how ugly, poorly designed, tedious, and generally bad that game was.

>>381191461

Sounds workable indeed. Remember to spam instruments a lot if you have a bard. Same with gadgets as gadgeteer

>>381191538
I wasn't, but I didn't play afterwards since I wanted to do a full 6-8 run.

I keep putting it off because of team autism, and getting completely lost in 6's corridors.

>>381191708
I don't even know how the game works yet. Is it turn based or real time like Grimrock? Either way I'm looking forward to it.

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Finally reach Marten after going through hell on earth

lol you need another thing so fuck off and come back

>>381191808

Completely turn based once the combat starts.

>>381191916
Sounds good, I didn't want to be struggling to get turns off as fast as possible like in Grimrock. Games hard right? Real hard? Turn based is only fun if it's hard, but then it's super fucking fun.

>>381192093

Get a speed patch ASAP, waiting sucks the life out of the game, then prepare to get your party wasted early on 3-4 times until you get the hang of things. It's not hard to figure stuff out, really.

>Mages can only use fire and water spells

I just want to be a geomancer

>>381194043
Bishop can use all spells

Might as well be a everythingmancer

>>381194259
>Real mage is called Bishop

Oh, but why? Time for rocks and stuff.

How does death work in this?

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>>381157312
>decide to start with World of Xeen
>manual is 71 pages

>>381194482
When your party member's HP reaches 0, they die. You can bring them back with spells or certain items. As far as I am aware, there's really no downside to dying, aside from maybe an increase in the death count somewhere in party statistics. Maybe they also get less XP if they died during battle.
I haven't played Wiz 8 in few years though, so take this with a grain of salt.

>>381195372
Are those items and spells super rare?

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>>381142245
>casual filter
How about hack-and-slashing your way into the Rapax Rift as a solo character, then making it out uncursed without everyone wanting you dead?

>>381191907
You mad bro?

>>381194482
You can use Resurrection Powder or the spell anytime, as long as you have some. I'm pretty sure 8 got rid of the stat penalty for dying so the only real drawback is a wasted turn (in combat) and 2000 GP.

>>381195451
Not as much as they probably should be. I think the priest in Arnika sells the powder whenever his inventory refreshes.

>>381195451
No, not really. The rarer of them are all stuff like amulets and rings, but I think you can buy resurrection dust in a lot of the shops.

>>381181209
Because they're the ones that popularized
>Durrr blobbers amirite xD

>>381191708
This.Spam your skills since you level them up by using them.

>>381191487
Just use cone spells/dragons breath and the destructive pipes.Everything early on gets pulverized.

The last time I played this game, I used this party:
Dracon Lord
Hobbit Samurai
Mook Gadgeteer
Hobbit Bard
Faerie Alchemist
Mook Psionic
Is this party good? It worked pretty well and all, I think I just got bored of the game halfway through it, so I didn't finish it. I might start the game again very soon and I was thinking of keeping the same class composition, but to change the races around a bit.

>>381197326

Hobbit Samurai is a mismatch (Felpurr or Dracon are the best here), Dracon Lord is passable, the rest is good.

Amazing game. Too combat heavy though, especially since fights later on take fucking ages.

>>381198316
How useful is Dracon's breath? Never used it too much so I don't know much about it. Does it scale with level, does it take into account enemy immunities, the dracon's spell skills, etc?

>>381176252
Thanks for this

>>381198472

It's good at start but as time goes by it gets worse. It does account enemy immunity, but I'm not sure about scaling.

>>381195617

Resurrecting in 6 and 7 lowers stats in 8 it's free

>>381137647
mages suck in 8

>>381194491

Manual is nothing, look how packed the Cluebooks are.

Is Grimrock comparable to this quality wise?

>>381202258
From what I remember, no. I haven't played Grimrock but it's grid based so I instantly dropped it. W8 does really feel like state-of-the-art.

>>381202258

Two different animals. Grimlock is a dungeon crawl hack and slash with one goal, Wizardry series are turn based and slow more geared towards complex item puzzles and problem solving.

Speaking of Grimrock and other grid based games, did anybody play The Quest and how did you like it, if yes?

Give me good comfy sprite dress up game with tones of options like MM7, is this that much to ask

I think it's time for me to replay this. Are there any fixes necessary or does the GOG version run fine out of the box?

>>381205430

Speed fix, that's pretty much it

>>381202258
Grimrock is great in its own right. If you play one of them then play the second one - it's a straight improvment over Grimrock 1 in every regard. Doesn't do much new for the genre but it's a solid take on it.

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>>381205504
Cheers. Downloading as we speak.

>>381137647

That's a much better party than my first run with the series.

>>381137647
oh yeah, i totally forgot about that game. got the game, installed it,made a group and checked how it ran. everything was smooth sailing but never started to really play.
prolly should get back to the game after i finish witcher and underrail

>>381137647
Autoleveling fucked me up after trinton.

>>381179140
I hate it more when they make senseless labyrinths out of anything, even when it doesn't make sense from a design point of view.
I am fine with a hidden dungeon being a maze, it is supposed to be hard to navigate, or a natural cave since it doesn't follow a pattern, but

>Go to tomb - it is a senseless maze though it is supposed to be easy to navigate to reach the coffin of whoever is buied there
>Go to cathedral/temple - it is a senseless maze tough it is supposed to be easy to navigate since it is a place of worship
>Go to sewers, it is a senseless labyrinth even though sewers are actually easy to navigate since they follow the same routes as roads above

and so on

>>381208798

Listen to Romero talking about level design and you'll get why they took that path. Doom was meant to have normal space-station like environments before it turned into traps and weirdness

I absolutely adored the starting area, but I dropped it like a pile of shit when I got to the first town. I couldn't handle the writing. The sci-fi plus medieval-fantasy mix just does not work.

10/10 gameplay but whoever did the world building needs to be shot.

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You niggas ready for the incline?

>>381210782

It worked well trust me, the problem is that Bradley and Van Caneghem knew how to write it, Brenda Brathwaite did not.

If you go back to 6 or 7 you'll get that tech is not prelevelant as much and it's treated like magic instead of something that is just common like in 8.

>>381211363

I want to buy it, but I'm scared... will Cleve FINALLY deliver?

>>381179140
what's bad about that? that you have to walk a little bit extra?
ultimately laziness is if you complain about walking in a game.

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dont mind me - just posting my wrecking ball of a late game party. I know I know, no gadgetbro but this was my first successful playthru after this game destroyed my anus as a middle schooler

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>>381212020

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Anyone interested in the Wizardry 8 Stones of Arnhem shit I managed to rescue of that thread at RPGCodex? It's 3 sketchbooks worth, I didn't save the photos of the letters sadly.

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>>381212020
>>381212103

>>381211363
I hope there's a demo because I wanna try this first before buying it. I am cautious about all the resistances and stats, because there's about gorillion of each.

>>381212381

I have the superdemo from few years back if you want it.

>>381211363
cleve is conning you again
codexers are not learning animals

>>381212321
post the weird penis monster and cats having sex already

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>>381212020
>>381212103
>>381212354

>>381212321
care to be more specific?

>>381212435
>from few years back
I mean, it's definitely not gonna be representative of the current state of the game, but sure, toss me a link here please.

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>>381212020
>>381212103
>>381212354
>>381212559

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>>381212020
>>381212103
>>381212354
>>381212559
>>381212673

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>>381212020
>>381212103
>>381212354
>>381212559
>>381212673
>>381212750

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>>381212885
>>381212750
>>381212673
>>381212559
>>381212354
>>381212103
>>381212020
last one

>>381213104

>bara ninja lizard

which wizardry is this again, this looks hilarious

>>381213104
Are darts even useful. I never used them on my playthrough and my inventory was full of them as a result.

>>381213192
8

>>381212885
How can someone be both a samurai and a daimyo?

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Okay awhile back I was suggested the super famicom port of V (has a English option in game, this version has no censorship) and the ps1 port of 7 (I believe it also can be made to display English text). My question is this, should I go for 5 or 7 then?

>>381213292

Couldn't a Daimyo be a former samurai, so still applicable?

>>381213287
>Are darts even useful
At the very least you can use them as ammo for gadgeeter's gun, if it's upgraded enough.

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>>381212639
filedropper dot com slash grimoiredemov131 Here you go, senpai. It's an exe, so don't be alarmed.

>>381212515

I've lost the sphincter monster photo sadly. I don't recall the cats having sex in the 3 sketchbooks I have here.

>>381212580

The sketchbooks for Stones of Arnhem are a trip into this weird Australian furry fantasy sci-fi shit. It were ideas for the sequel to Wiz 7 that got outsourced to an Aussie company but ultimately canned.

>>381211363
Can you add you own portraits? This is important.

>>381213912
I would guess so tho I dunno if those have any animation.

>>381213569
>filedropper dot com slash grimoiredemov131 Here you go, senpai. It's an exe, so don't be alarmed.
Thanks anon, I'll check it out over the weekend.

>>381213287
they are if you spec hard into throwing. the poison darts have high proc% and let you kill shit that would otherwise be a hassle


>>381213292
my female kitty samurai has a lightsaber and aint gotta explain shit

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>>381216013
>>381213487
>>381213287
ninja lizards skills for reference

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Using *LIGHT* Sword?