Why didn't this game blow up enough? Is it because the artstyle

It was shilled to hell and back though.

i was turned off by the artstyle because it looked cutesy and i'm sick to fucking death of cutesy looking stuff

>>381134056
Practically no marketing. Few review sites talked about it, tho generally thoses that did said it was good.

Word of mouth did the rest.

they killed my miner waifu for no reason. dropped

>>381134056
I just assume people are getting burned out on "metroidvania" 2d action platformers for the time being

>>381134724
>miner waifu
Myla? You should've known she was fucked from the start, especially the moment the singing stopped.

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>>381134481
Some characters look cute but the artstyle is moody and pretty, and the enemies can get real fucking dark.

>>381134056
I don't like metroidvanias. They run contrary to my autism of exploring everything and min maxing everything.

>>381134056
It's better than I thought it would be, just came out at a rough time.

It looks like a flash game and it costs $15

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>>381135830
HollowKnight is in the same boat as Titanfall sadly, both good games fucked over eith shitty release dates. Although HollowKnight never really marketed itself out there that much, and "shilling" on /v/ doesn't really count considering most niggers on this site don't play games.

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>tfw dying in steel soul mode

>>381136605
Titanfall 2 is complete trash though. Removed the ability to play IMC and cluttered the HUD with useless shit. Not to mention even more reliance on that card system or whatever the fuck

10/10 game. My goty so far. Thanks, for shilling it, /v/

Because it's mediocre.

>>381134056

People want Boodstained instead.

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>>381134056
its because you fuckers refuse to draw enough porn of it

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>>381134056
For an indie game it did really well. I fucking loved it and can't wait for the free expansion.

>>381136994

>That steel soul achievement

Who the fuck can even do that.

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>>381134056
>cartoony furfag ridden pixelshit like Undertale

Good christ why the fuck does everyone on /v/ talk like this

>>381134056
People don't trust indie games that get shilled here anymore

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>>381136994
>>381138062

I tried to do it legit a couple times but got a little impatient so I just used save/quits

It's not too hard if you take your time and get some upgrades. Getting the shadow dash makes bosses much easier.

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>tfw subscribed to a month of indiebox for the physical edition of this

>>381137278
>implying sides matter
>Hud options can be turned off
>Burn card system was removed

>>381134056
It's decent but damage on touch drives me fucking insane. how hard is it to make a simple attack animation?

>>381138578
Me too. Do you know if it's safe to cancel now, or what?

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>>381138080
Because a majority of us non-Reddit and Neofag can't stomach these disgusting indieshit, pixelshit "games" that have the fucking audacity to charge 20 shekels. HollowKnight is actually a rare gem in a sea of crap.

>>381134056
Looks like your average indie snooze fest

I don't like the way the map works. I want to know where the fuck I am. Am I dumb or did the map not show where you were on it? I never got very far.

>>381138938
im waiting for it to ship before i cancel, we have until the 15th of next month before they charge us again

extreme shilling on /v/ on release, kickstarter fag exclusive in-game items and the artstyle is ass

>>381139117
equip the compass, it's one of the first upgrades available

>>381139117
You need to equip a charm to see yourself on the map. You can get it at the beginning of the game

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>>381138976
>tfw from SoCal and talk like that
I hate cops too, dammit.

>>381139190
>kickstarter fag exclusive in-game items
But that's wrong?

>>381139173
>>381138578
I'm confused why we were charged and the game hasn't been shipped yet. I hope they ship it the 25th so I can get it for sure before I get charged again so I can cancel my sub

>>381139325
They probably wait until people have been charged before even making that many, that way they don't overproduce. Makes sense for them.

>>381134571
The primary review on the Steam articles list for it was a Rock Paper Shotgun that was entirely unfounded in it's critique and spent most of the time talking about Ori and the Blind Forest instead. Gaming 'Journalism' failed this game immensely in their incompetence. I dare say that's part of the reason it isn't as popular as it should be. Honestly one of my favorite games.

>>381134056
It's just boring to be honest.

go to place, kill a boss, get an ability that gets you to next place, repeat.

and before someone says
>so just like every metroidvania ever?

my response is
>yes

It has very linear progression too and in general doesn't feel original in any other way than artstyle. It's a very "meh" game

>>381139325
i think they start shipping them next week

I plan on buying it soon in the summer sale. I pirated it to try it out months ago and it was dank AF. But Im a poor bastard too so I hope the game is about 10 bucks or 12 in the sale.

Really fantastic game.

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Reminder that if you praise any game even slightly, you're a shill. There's no way someone would make a thread about a game on /v/ because they liked it. No sir, we only accept shitposting here.

>>381139649
How to spot the person who never played the game: the post.

>>381139676
I just checked the faq and it said they usually send it out the 25th-31st

>>381139649
It's not linear bruh. There is sequence breaking out of the ass and several branching paths

Too many map restrictions for this game to be fun
You just run between similar looking areas until you get bored and quit after hitting spikes too many times

>>381139896
today's /v/:

like a game
>you're a shill

dislike a game
>you've never played it

>>381139983
>>381139649

So we've established everyone who doesn't like it didn't play the game.

Where do they come up with these things though? Did some popular kids' youtuber make a video about the game?

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You did listen to her sing right guys?

I react negatively to anything /v/ shills.

sage

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>>381138470

Its not too hard, just use the fragile charms and be careful, there are really safe routes if you take your time and you can get 2 nail upgrades before you even fight dung defender if you want to. I loved the game though 10/10, 96hours and 100%

>>381137753
I would if I could.
I can only do linework and flat colors.

>>381140093
But the person was objectively wrong. The progression isn't linear at all even without doing glitchy unintended shit. This is obvious if you've played the game longer than 10 minutes.

>>381138080
>furfag
They are bugs, senpai, and i don't think chitinfags exist

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You couldn't be more wrong. After you beat the third boss you have to explore absolutely everywhere to advance the story.
The biggest problem with the game is that you have to do a fuckload of backtracking, and the fast travel stations have wierd locations.

They should have gone Dark Sould mode : fewer benches, allow fast travel between benches.

>>381139649
>I never played the game: the post

You can get several upgrades without fighting bosses. You can access maps without certain upgrades (if you buy the lamp, you can access Crystal Peak from the beginning of the game without a mid-game ability), you can access maps without figthing bosses (Mantis Lords for example)

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>>381140481
It's pretty hard to make bugs faggy like what most furfags do with animals.

>>381139117
You're dumb

>>381140186
>exploring an old city
>suddenly this hot bug ghost start talking to me
>she's really nice and asks me to listen to her
>i'm really nervous
>shitting and farting
>i sit down and try ignore the smell

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>>381137753
I tried but I ruin everything I touch

Teach me how to draw cute things

>>381139649
>very linear progression too
Now that's just not true. After City of Tears you have about 5 areas to go through. Something new opens up every time you acquire something.

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>>381139684
>game was 15 bucks
>exchange rate made it 11 bucks for me

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>>381140424
the trick is to do it anyways, and if you're lucky it will inspire someone else to do some

so before this thread dies I expect to see some finished work from you

>>381134056
It failed because La-Mulana is a better game and if you say otherwise, you're trash at the game.

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>>381140628
>later pass out in some building because couldn't handle the smell
I love how the elder apologises for the smell not realising it's you

I only heard about it from the humble bundle demo thing they gave out. I'm not even sure what this game is.

>>381140580
>you can access maps without figthing bosses (Mantis Lords for example)
>tfw fell down to deepnest near the prophet dude before even fighting mantises
Now that was one hell of a memorable entrance.

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>>381140635
thats fine just keep going, finish it even if you hate it, then move on to the next

>>381140703
I think the most fun I had was getting lost after getting a new upgrade. Having no idea how big the map was and still seeing new areas after 15+ hours

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>>381134056
Combat too simple for the diehard MV fans. Not enough fat lips and huge noses for the tumblr crowd. It's what Salt and Sanctuary wishes it was though. Great game with a lovely atmosphere. I only wish some of the side characters were a little more fleshed out (pic not related). Hoping the DLC expands on the world a bit

>>381138976
Or maybe they're games that you aren't the target demographic for and were never intended for you to begin with. Who'd have thought.

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>>381134056
No price too great

>>381140429
Obviously the invidual map screens aren't linear, but that doesn't mean fucking anything. When talking about "linear" progression in a metroidvania, people usually mean branching paths to clearly thematically different areas, something that wasn't in Hollow Knight.

I did play the game for something like 5 hours and the progression as far as i can remember was basic grey cave -> jungle area -> mushroom/filth area. Hooray, what did i miss? Could I have completed these in different order?

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People always cry about proper metroidvania games, but they can't see a good one being shoved in their face and end up calling some random 2D platformer with minor metroidvania elements more metroidvania than the former

>>381141085
Why is fw such a loser?

>>381140981
Sucks you never get to fight Tiso

>>381141085
I hope at some point we'll be able to change our guy around with different heads/masks
Playing as someone who looks like the Pale King would be great

>>381141104
You're not totally wrong, but the game opens up a lot after that.

>>381141104
You didn't even get a walljump. Of course it hasn't opened yet by that point.

>>381140981
S&S isn't trying to be a metroidvania it's just trying to be 2d Dark Souls

>>381141108
There's always something to criticize about anything. People seem to get completely caught up in a few flaws and exaggerate that it made it unplayable for them.

>>381141209
I hope to god they add this in Hornet's expansion. There were so many cool as fuck bug masks and you were stuck with the same shitty basic one from start to finish. You can wear anything from Hollowknights head to cloth's sack.

>>381141085
Zote was the first sibling created by the white king and queen, and was discarded because he developed a personality, hence his obsession with parental approval. Prove me wrong, fags

>>381141104
>Could I have completed these in different order?

I found myself in Deepness before going to City of Tears. Also, I went to Crystal Peaks before getting an ability to break the ground

So, yes. You can. In the beginning is kinda linear, but it opens up pretty quickly

>>381141104
You just hate metroidvania games, you're describing all of them, and your complaints apply far less to this specific game than any other metroidvania game.

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I played it for 42 hours but dropped it after the trial of champions fucked me and my wife cucked me

>>381141209
>>381141423
Maybe they'll put that mask maker NPC to use

>>381141104
>Where are the clearly thematically different areas?
>All I got were these clearly thematically different areas even though I didn't play to get to the even more different areas

>>381141453
Well Zote's still a fucking loser who steals HollowKnights grill, fuck him and his stupid, droopy face.

Daily reminder that no other metroidvania will ever top La-Mulana.

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I was going to move it down, but I decided to bring AM2R up to keep it some company instead.

>>381141570
>having a fat fujo for a wife
You desrve to be cucked

>>381141273
>>381141275

Of course I should've known that if I just keep wasting my time on something that doesn't feel promising even after 5 hours, it gets better eventually. I admit, I was dumb to think that the game should give me a good first impression and as a metroidvania, a sense of a mysterious open world. Sorry guys. Next time, I'll play for at least 10 hours before posting!

>>381141643
I meant branching paths to thematically different areas.

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>>381141085
Such an awesome character deserves more fanart.

>>381139325
I used to help box them when they were smaller actually, until the Assault Android Cactus box. They have all the stuff there and it's at least boxed in the collectors boxes; now, they should be printing the shipping labels and assembly lining them all into shipping boxes.

I never got my last paycheck or free HumbleBundle box from them

>>381141845
>not wanting thicc grub
Low test pleb.

>>381141808
how can something be semi-nonlinear? it's either linear or it isn't.

>>381141808
>I was going to move it down
This list isn't supposed to be a "personal" tier list, it was originally made via /v/ polls. You're supposed to have the games voted in.

I recommend waiting a year before adding Hollow Knight so that the hype dies down.

>>381141857
are you autistic and ESL or just retarded

I loved the artstyle
Then I went to play it and only found vague bullshit that wants too hard to be Souls but doesn't even slightly accomplishes anything.
I wandered blindly through samey looking rooms until I found a boss that defended every attack I threw at him.
Then I went some other place and found a rock thing blocking my only possible path.
Then I finally found a town thing and the only NPC there spoke nonsense and disappeared right after.

Then I fucking quit this piece of shit that basically requires me to follow a guide because it's so 2deep4u and mysterious that it won't ever tell me where to fucking go or what to do, only throw random babbling NPCs that don't even try to make sense while screaming AM I SOULS YET

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>>381141952
Linear in that there's a start point and an ending point but non-linear in the sense of how you get from start to finish.

>>381141671
But anon, zote didn't steal hornet. I bet Fierce Drya would be pretty waifable as well if she weren't dead

>>381141952
Probably just a way of saying "It's mandatory to do certain objectives and maybe in a certain order, but you can get side-tracked and do them in some different way each time"

>>381141808
Play An Untitled Story on masterful difficulty and then edit it to "Above Holy Trinity" tier

>>381141808
HK is objectively better than SM, so either move HK up or SM down. SM is massively overrated so the latter would probably be better.

>>381141952
Levels can be nonlinear but arranged in a linear order or have backtracking.

>>381141963
It hasn't been that for a long time, friendo. You want to make it like that again then you go ahead, I'll send you the xcf.

>>381142058
Also, forgot to mention that I got 0 new abilities in 2 hours of playthrough. Mashing jump and attack gets super boring real fast.

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>>381140795
Lines are what I do mang.
>>381140635
4u. Your structure is very good overall for a sketch.

>>381142058
>>381142160
So you're just fucking garbage at the game then.

>>381142125
I'll admit that SM gets points for being the father of the genre, SotN too. Hollow Knight has issues though, I don't agree that it's flat out better than SM. It's really mechanically uncreative.

>>381142160
I love the game a lot, but I remember my interest dwindling during the first few hours before getting the dash

>>381142058
Just sounds like you're retarded.

>>381142136
At what point did the polls stop being made?

Was it once you realized that mobile posters and newfags from gamergate and trump ruined /v/'s taste?

>>381141808
>shit and the shit forest above meh tier
You almost had it

I just want to say that salt and sanctuary is one of the ugliest games I've ever seen

>>381141808
Am I blind or is OoE not there?

>>381141453
naw, zote was a moron rando, and the society was already formed when the king came into the picture, he just gave everyone a free will.

>>381141575
He doesn't really have a use right now so that would be really appreciated

Not a fan of the weird art style that looks Flash animated. That and I'm just not interested in a game about bugs.

>>381142367
OoE used to be there but since that dude probably crafted it into a personal tier list he probably removed it because he didn't play it.

>>381142349
Honestly I've though about removing it altogether, it's barely a metroidvania and it bored me to tears. But there's nothing offensive about it and enough people love it that I can't justify putting it lower.

>>381142367
It's not, I don't consider it a metroidvania, and there's no shit tier.

>>381142309
I wasn't the original guy, I took it and started adding games based on polls when he didn't show up for a while, and then eventually I just decided to say fuck it and make it my own list because /v/ has shit taste.

>>381142451
I'm pretty sure all the animations in HK are drawn, no flash animation.

Flash animation would be something like salt and sanctuary where limbs seem oddly detached from the body

>>381141808
Move Hollow Knight down to Great

Move Momodora, Castle in the Darkness, down to Meh

Move Hydra Castle Labyrinth to Good

Move Untitled Story to Great

then it's perfect

>>381134056
Because the metroidvania genre aged like milk while the original Metroids and Castlevanias aged like wine. I can't fucking stomach these shit games that try to replicate their appeal but I love the originals.

>>381140186
I listened for like 2 minutes then I freed her from the dream

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>>381134056
Hey don't blame me OP, literally sitting here waiting for the god damned thing. I was nearly tempted to just give up and grab it on Steam a few times, but I really want to be able to play it on the go and while laying in bed, watching TV.

So yeah, they need to move their butt so I can hurry up and buy it.

>>381142659
Hollow Knight is legitimately just as good as Super Metroid.

>>381142740

>>381134056
HK really sold for me when I learned that there are no point-of-no-returns. I'm always stressing out about not doing main objectives in games like this in case I miss something.

>>381141857
>I meant branching paths to thematically different areas.
Which is exactly what you got. Fungus, jungle, caves, weird bubble zone and spookville are all available from that point. If you had bothered to actually make progress in the fungus you had access to you'd have access to even more, just about the entire game even.

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>>381135895
>It looks like a flash game

imagine being this retarded

Hopefully it sells better on the Switch. It did alright, but I wouldn't be thrilled with the numbers if I were a dev.

>>381142740
yeah how about stop posting mr. developer

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>>381142886
Maybe he plays really nice flash games hehe

>>381141808
>La mulana is a metroidvania meme again

>>381134056
should be in 3D desu senpai

>>381142291
The only major problem mechanically is there's a big ability deadzone because the crystal dash is mostly gimmicky, but then if you want to get that nitpicky the majority of upgrades in SM are useless too and are just arbitrary locks for certain areas.

The way the combat + basic attacks work is already unique, the basic attack is also movement ability and parry all in one.

The bigger flaws with the game overall are level layout, but you need to take some risks if you want a game to be truly nonlinear.

>>381143103
Yeah how about you come up with an argument.

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>>381142191
Th-thanks, Anon. I guess I'll try a little harder

>>381143128
why isn't it one?

>>381143181
>the majority of upgrades in SM are useless too

yep

groundpound is a major offender

>>381139684
Well the summer sale is soon, there are no weekly deals this week

>>381141808
IMO the other DS castlevanias deserve to be in Great Tier.

Salt & Sanctuary Good Tier

>>381134056
It doesn't run on toasters like Undertale does. I bought the game, but the framerate made it unplayable on my laptop. I'll be waiting until I get a Switch to maybe try out the Switch version instead.

>>381143183
I'll come up with as good as you did.
hmm....

It is one of the worst metroidvania-style games ever.

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You have 15 seconds to tell me why I shouldn't buy this now besides, "You already have like 10 games on your backburner including Dark Souls 2 and 3, BotW, La Mulana, and a bunch of 3DS JRPGs"

maybe I should just wait for steam summer sales

>>381143237
The groundpound is at least usable in combat, once you get the upgraded version it has iframes and is a great way to blow through some boss attacks.

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>>381143204
That's the spirit! Remember to do it for her.

>>381143181
That might be the only PROBLEM mechanically, but there's nothing exciting about it either. You only get a few core abilities across the whole game, and they're quite spread out. What really hurts it though is that we've seen them all before. It's really a mechanically boring game.

Thanks for reminding me I need to draw more fanart of this game I just love it and I want everyone to experience the joy that is to play this masterpiece.

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>>381143138
That would be too spooky, senpai

When's the DLC and such dropping? I hate playing with a sense of the game being incomplete.

>>381143323
It's been patched to hell and back now, it's worth another shot.

>>381143343
It's honestly a fucking steal at $15, go for it, dude.

>>381143473
In July, nigga

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>>381143364
I like the main character more. He's quite handsome

>>381143436
quick someone give that stag beetle a seat so I can imagine

I didn't see any waifus so I didn't want to play it.

>>381143473
First free pack is next month. There's two more coming sometime after that, and then probably a paid DLC with a new playable character.

The game is shit until you get to City of Tears. But after that it becomes enjoyable.

>>381142602
I'm the original guy, though I lack proof since I forgot all my tripcodes and lost the old files when wiping the HDD so I can't prove it, and I don't blame you. That's part of the reason I stopped continuing it, I couldn't stand to play every single dime-a-dozen metroidvania out there just to precursor how much each game deserved to be on there and how I would judge the polls to place the games in a spot they would both deserve and people would agree on. Because of how much I was binging the genre, though, I started to notice how derivative and repetitive a lot of the indie ones are, and I couldn't stand to keep working on it when so many people liked these games when, honestly, they probably didn't even play 10 of the games already on the list.

At the time I was satisfied with how the list has shaped and changed with time but I still think it could use a little bit more improving, I would say I'd take up the torch and do a re-polling but due to the nature of this board and the influx of new users of the last couple years I think the image would look completely different from how it started.

Also, making this list retroactively made me dislike Hollow Knight. I genuinely couldn't get into it. I hear it gets better after a while but the beginning of the game is just so boring, stale, bland, unfocused, and repetitive that the only bit of enjoyment I got was how I kept getting lost. Not to mention finding items and shit isn't half as rewarding as it is in other games. The challenges to find an item are often mismatched, where the good shit is found by doing easy things and the shit shit is found by doing hard things, making harder challenges less satisfying. Overall, I'm sure it becomes amazing at some point, but I wouldn't be surprised if people mostly hated it for the first couple hours.

>>381143473
The game is a pretty complete kit and caboodle for a $15 kick started indie. The only confirmed DLC will be playing as one of the other characters, and given the size and style of the game, it's more appropriate to think of that as an expansion

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>>381143629

it sucks until you get the dash and the wallhang, I'll fucking say that

>>381143229
puzzle focus

>>381143554
He's too smol and his gead is too boring for me
>>381143585
Play the game you dimb nigger, there's so many buggy Waifu's it becomes hard to chose which one you like.

>>381140821
>every fucking time

>>381143836
Don't reply to bait.

>>381134352
>was
who do you think is behind this piece of shit thread?

>>381143751
>there's so many buggy Waifu's it becomes hard to chose
All the best ones are dead even before the game started.

>>381143913
>calling it bait because he can't prove me wrong
LMFAO

>>381143343
nibba the summer sale is next week

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>>381143751
>tfw best waifu is actually a husbando
Ora! Ora ora ora!

>>381144032
>not liking ghost waifus
What are you some kind if manliker?

The turn off in art style might be because it gives off the "Flash" look thanks to the thick outlines. Having said that, I still think it looks charming and I'll be buying it next week during the Steam sales. It might get more popular over that, too.

>>381134056
Still waiting for a Switch release. I refuse to get platformers anywhere else now.

>>381144167
Wow you have about as much taste for shit as your husbando does.

>>381144167
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, HUND'OH

>>381144275
why though?

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>>381144287
>hating Dung Defender

>>381134056
>take one look at the game
>looks like a flash game from 2007
that's probably why

Besides, even if it did get popular you would just cry because you wouldn't have your sekret klub anymore.

>>381144167
Dung Defender sounds like he'd be such a bro.

>>381134056
you're fucking autistic dude you keep samefagging these piece of shit threads day after day

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Where to?

>>381144287
Sounds like someone got shat on :^)

>>381144420
It did get popular but OP is incredibly obsessive about this shit.

>>381144725
Yemeh Soro

>>381143665
Yeah, any totally polled list would look like a bastardization to everybody. I still take public opinion into account, but it's mostly just my own list at this point and everybody else is free to make theirs. I agree about how derivative and tiresome the genre can be, I don't blame you for that. I do love Hollow Knight though, but maybe that's a bit because I went in wanting to like it, I did back it on Kickstarter.

>>381144725
Stag nest please

>>381134056
hated the black + one color art, game feels depressing to play

character doesn't have enough controls/attacks unlocked by default, another game that expects me to slog hours to unlock basic mechanics, bored of doing this

theme too strict causing repetitive enemy designs, a few enemies are almost 100% copied from binding of isaac

>>381142058
Also, the fucking waypoints are way too few and far and between.

>>381138330
And that's great.

>>381142278
>>381142305
>Look at me I'm so hardcore, I love when shit is purposely hidden from me so I can pretend to be better than everyone else!
Not even Dark Souls is so fucking cryptid.

No meme replies; is this game actually good?

>>381139701
Kill yourself, you pieces of shit have been going at it daily for months you lunatics.

>>381145490
it's boring, so no.

>>381143665
>I couldn't stand to play every single dime-a-dozen metroidvania out there just to precursor how much each game deserved to be on there and how I would judge the polls to place the games in a spot they would both deserve and people would agree on
You never polled La-mulana because you knew that nobody would put it in elder-god-tier.

Because everything else was legitimate, everyone assumed la-mulana's placing was legitimate too.

You're a fraud

>>381145490
It has a lower emphasis on combat but higher emphasis on exploration and nonlinearity than other metroidvanias.
I really liked it

>>381145490
it's very average. If you care about the genre, it's decent.

>>381145490
I don't generally like metroidvania games and it's my personal goty

>>381145490
yes
best metroidvania of the last 5 years or so

>>381145652
I've said it months ago but stop spoilering things that don't contain spoilers. You piece of shit shill.

>>381145415
I'm borderline retarded and didn't have that much trouble with this game.

>>381145324
I thought the fast traveling was put in good places. They just neglected putting one in the lower areas of the map.

Apparently more ways of fast traveling are coming with the content update. Not sure how it's really necessary unless they're really expanding the map by a lot

>>381145797
Make me

So how hard is this game and how little does it value the player's time?

I'm interested but fuck it if it's going to be another one of those games where you have to replay the same five-minute trek/fight over and over again because putting a checkpoint right before the boss or particularly difficult section is just too casual and not allowed.

As some kind of reference I managed to beat all three Dark Souls solo with great difficulty (the hardest bosses took me a few hours each) as well as SotN, Super Metroid and Cave Story, but gave up on games like La-Mulana and Super Meat Boy.

This is everyone ITT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8A85cl5w3s

>>381145887
Well it's easy profiling your piece of shit obsessiveness when you post in patterns like this. That's why many have started calling on the blatant shilling.

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>>381146057
Holy shit anon, you really got me there. By god. How will I ever recover from this?
Wrong anon. I barely even posted in this thread.Also here is some more spoiler posts for you:^)

>>381145743
>I don't generally like metroidvania games and it's my personal goty
This is the average HKfag

Let's be honest here, does ANYONE who likes Hollow Knight really like Metroidvanias?

It's so derivative and bland that anyone who's played multiple metroidvanias would get bored quickly, but someone who's never played a metroidvania before would love it because they have no experience.

People who put SotN, La-mulana, Super, and Hollow Knight on the same level have only played those games and no other metroidvania. Someone who plays metroidvanias all over, they would keep HK away from SotN/La-mulana/Super.

>>381146442
kill yourself I don't care what you claim

>>381145985
There's a fair bit of back-tracking in the game. I can imagine it being a waste of time if you don't enjoy moving your character or the enemies.

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>>381138976
Competent pixel games can take a lot of work, too. Shovel Knight is very detailed and took a lot of work to get right. Look at most pixel games and you'll see different sized pixels, rotating pixels, lazy ass gradient lighting effects from whatever engine they're using, etc. You can tell the effort went in to make your eye not catch something "too perfect".
Games like Hollow Knight and Ori and the Blind Forest have all that effort too, don't get me wrong. Those background and foreground objects took a lot of work to get right.
Just saying that if you don't want your pixely game to look weird and bland like pic related, you need to put some effort into it.

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>>381134056
>Why didn't this game blow up enough?
It's sold like 150k units in a couple of months, that's pretty good for indies without previous track record.

>>381139494
>RPS Hollow Knight review
John Walker is a fucking retarded mongoloid whose brain became incapable of processing rational thought a decade ago.

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>>381146521
Don't be mad.
Who hurt you when you were little, anon?

>>381146773
shill, oh and I've been away for months and just came back to see that you pieces of shits are still at it, you have some sort of obsession with this garbage

>>381139494
>>381146728
I'm reading it now and I completely agree with him. The game is very derivative and as such it's pretty boring to any and everyone who's familiar with metroidvanias.

Do hollow knight fans not actually realize this? It's not that your game is bad, it's just that it's boring because it's nothing new.

>>381146502
Hollow Knight isn't too deep but it's an enjoyable time through and through, compared to many metroidvania games who feature "that" area.
Also it's fucking hand drawn!

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>>381146935
That is very paranoid of you anon. You realize how many people use this site every day?
Where have you been? Did you enjoy yourself?

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>>381146773

I want crimson court so bad..

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>>381147247
>Also it's fucking hand drawn!
Yeah, this, similar to Let It Die's OST, is definitely a huge fucking pity.

If only a game with this high-quality art direction was actually creative and high-quality overall, but it doesn't, the art is the best part while everything else is tolerable. Atleast it's not as bad as Let It Die because Let It Die's everything else is actually pretty terrible but even so, it's a huge shame a game like this had to be so repetitive and boring.

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>>381138976
>HollowKnight is actually a rare gem in a sea of crap

>>381147428
I'm not even paranoid you are making it too clear, it's easy seeing from the archive all the repeating posts like the generic image bumps happening in all the threads and the concentration of the useless spoiler texts and spoiler images among the less than average poster counts in these threads, then there's the generic questions being repeated for the (you)s

fuck you

>>381147718
oh and of course one of you shills has already admitted it

>>381147023
>The game is very derivative and as such it's pretty boring to any and everyone who's familiar with metroidvanias.
That's absolutely not true, how is Hollow Knight anything like any of the metroidvanias Walker lists?

>Aquaria, Axiom Verge, Environmental Station Alpha, The Swapper, VVVVVV, Cave Story+, Guacamelee
I haven't played Environmental Station Alpha, but none of the other games are anything remotely like Hollow Knight, other than basic metroidvania staples like a sprawling map, shortcuts, abilities that you upgrade to reach new areas, and backtracking. If that's enough to call something derivative we might as well never make another platforming game ever again, because apparently following the basic mechanics of a genre and mixing it with other mechanics in a unique setting isn't original enough for John fucking Walker. Comparing HK to Ori is absurd, when if HK is derivative of anything it's obviously Dark Souls, from the currency mechanic to the story.

John Walker didn't like HK because he thought Ori was better, what an absolutely ridiculous way to write a review.

>>381147718
Alright. Here. It is not even funny anymore. I'll prove it to you. Quote everything that isn't in this direct conversation that you are 100% certain is me being a dirty shill spoilering everything and using spoiler images everywhere and all the generic questions or whatever other "evidence" you have that it is this random anon who does nothing but stay on /v/ and shill nonstop.

Go on.

>>381144725
the nearest mcdonalds

>>381148521
how the fuck will you prove anything? fuck off

>>381148405
The games he listed are shit indeed but the game plays extremely similarly to Castle in the Darkness to a lawsuit-level tee.

If not for the fact nobody played CitD because it's pure garbage I think everyone would notice

Sigh, bapa nada

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Oh shit guys I found an image of the average Hollow Knight fan.

>>381148663
I'll screencap and post it here and when you spot zero (You) you can finally go to bed without the ominous presence of this "shill" that obviously plagues 4chan.

>>381145490
Yes

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>>381148870
>The games he listed are shit
>VVVVVV

Who is Jinn's master?

>>381149043
https://boards.fireden.net/_/search/text/spoiler%20hollow%20knight/page/1/
it's a little suspisious to have 18 pages of spoiler garbage assosiated with hollow knight

I know you're dumb but I also know you're not dumb enough to be unable to use paint

>>381134056
people dont like bugs

I'm sorry but how can people say Hollow Knight is "the best game of the year" or even yet "only good game of the year" when Persona 5 and BotW are out?
Just seems like secret club faggotry to me.

>>381148905
How did cornifer managed to fuck such a qt? Is he a secret chad that pretends to be a nerd?

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Would you ?

>>381149464
Maybe they don't like those games as much.

>>381149397
oh and let's note here that this is spoiler comments containing the words hollow knight

most of the hollow knight spoiler comments do not contain the words hollow knight

>>381149491
Did you see the places he got to all on his own? He can handle himself.

>>381141808
Ori and Fusion are better than that

>>381149559
I highly doubt they've played them.
If they say Hollow Knight is the only good game to come out of this year that means it's the only game they've played this year.

>>381145985
It's a long game, most of the game is pretty easy, but it's extremely nonlinear and you're given basically zero hints about what to be doing so you can "waste" tons of time if it's your first playthrough. Everything difficult is optional.

>>381149464
>somebody says that X is his personal goty
>nentendrones appearing out of nowhere: Nah-uh, it's obviously botw
Evry tiem

>>381149687
Nah.

>>381149802
But I also mentioned Persona 5...

>>381149397
>>381149569
So... your proof is there is 18 archived pages of Hollow Knight posts with spoiler tags in them? You realize it could have all been basically anyone in the entire god damn planet who just went online and posted? Christ anon, this is sad at this point. Stop before you become the next Caramel man.
You are chasing ghosts anon. I can't even make fun of you anymore.

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>>381134056
>Guys what if we took Bloodborne, Super Metroid, Castlevania SOTN, and fucking Ferngully and just mashed them together lmao

>>381150110
what I'm saying is that the shilling is off the charts

this spoiler garbage is off the charts for this particular game and that's just one of the patterns

>>381150136
You get something that doesn't capture the charm of any of those things.

>>381149520
Why wouldn't I?

>>381150304
Yeah I'm a bit suspicious too, I mean sure every game has a few guys saying it's GOTY but no Hollow Knight threads starts without "this game is GOTY" or "why haven't you bought GOTY yet? I already bought it 3 times" (that last quote wasn't made up or ironic either, someone actually said that and meant it).
I mean I guess as an indie dev marketing your game on online forums is effective but it's just so tacky.

>>381150317
Qween's garden has the comfirst music

>>381150304
https://boards.fireden.net/_/search/text/spoiler%20stardew%20valley/page/1/
Oh look! Fifteen pages of spoiler text with Stardew Valley in them! Obviously someone is just a master-class shill who keeps using spoiler text in every post of theirs and is infesting all of /v/.
Now do you see how stupid your argument sounds?

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>>381150770
Comfiest everything.

>>381150891
stardew valley is many times more popular and older

fuck off

>>381150891
https://boards.fireden.net/_/search/text/hollow%20knight%20stardew%20valley/filter/text/

would you look at that, some samefag animecancer spammed hollow knight and stardew valley

>>381141808
I just finished Symphony of the Night about a week ago and it's so bad compared to Hollow Knight. The only people who rate it higher are people blinded by nostalgia.

>>381150997
https://boards.fireden.net/_/search/text/spoiler%20gwent/
Fifteen pages of Gwent with spoiler text? It was in closed beta around the same time. Does this satisfy you?
>>381151178
You are really reaching now. Honestly I was trying to help but I think you are only getting more and more delusional. Find help anon.

>>381151656
explain to me how that is reaching, someone literally has spammed that shit

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>The autist actually fucked off

Well I'll be. Anyway, anyone got any tips for the five-hour run?

>>381151656
gwent has three times more comments mentioning it than hollow knight does

I'm honestly still waiting for the switch version, it does interest me but I want to get it on that

>>381151736
Someone listed 10+ games and repeated them again and again for a console because they are shit and want /v/ to agree with them that the switch is not a shit console (and it is). IT JUST SO HAPPENED that he listed Stardew Valley and Hollow Knight in it. It is also especially ridiculous because the low amount of games on the switch means they were scraping at the bottom of the barrel and listed virtually every game there is a release date on it. Also other people made lists with 10+ games for various other reasons...
Nah, it must be this insane shill that always posts the same way.
>>381152159
Holy fuck find help.

>>381152258
It's pretty simple if you know the path and are semi competent at killing bosses without a lot of damage/health upgrades
Just go Vengeful Spirit->Greenpath for dash->Mantis town for walljump->City of Tears for groundpound->Crystal Peak for superdash->Sewer's for Isma's Tear->Double Jump->Resting Ground
You can do all that stuff in 2.5 hours even at an abominable pace, and then you have all the movement abilities and can get the dreamers+any other power ups you want before the end of the game, but the last boss is pretty easy

>>381152649
>someone listed 10+ games and repeated them again and again for a console because they are shit and want /v/ to agree with them that the switch is not a shit console (and it is). IT JUST SO HAPPENED that he listed Stardew Valley and Hollow Knight in it.

yeah and the same kind of person would be one to shill+spam this game

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>>381134352
>>381143931
>we can't talk about games without it being called shilling
Oh go fuck yourselves, we never claimed it was the second coming of Christ like Horizonfag did. Why can't we talk about games anymore?

>>381150934
Not comfiest enemies
Those traitor mantis fuckers are aggravating as shit

>>381152826
They are not saying you can't talk about it they are just calling you out.

>>381134056
Personally I can't play it because it's incompatible with my controller, so I refunded it. Saw a lot of people with the same problem. Might not be the major reason why it didn't blow up. But definitely a contributing factor I believe.

Also this >>381134481 I didn't give it much thought for a long time, because of the artstyle.

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>>381140884
>tfw did the same fucking thing

I almost crapped my pants when that happened and promptly got the fuck out. Didn't go back to Deepnest until after I killed the other two dreamers, fuck that noise.

>>381134056
Not enough shilling.
I live-streamed the game for 2 hours and saw absolutely no views.

>>381153047
You gotta be an eceleb, only then can you start streaming literally who (by normie standards) games.

>>381153159
I know. It's just hard to stream popular games with such shit Internet.

>>381152826
Maybe don't start the thread with shit like popularity and GOTYs.
It's bound to start shit no matter what game.

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>>381152958
For a game this cutesy it has plenty of unsettling or outright spooky moments
>tfw qt grub turns into a facehugger
Never trusted those fuckers ever again

>>381153760
Well that's the point, to get replies, silly.

>>381141104
>>381141104

I felt the same way and nearly quit, and I don't remember exact map details; but I found myself in the Darknest(?) very early on in the game and loved how difficult and outscaled I was at that point.

I was there before the city, I believe. Can't really remember, but i had worked my way down the west side of the map and into the forgotten village without even the first nail upgrade. The shielded crawler/tunnel-blockers were a real pain and the overly dark/no light atmosphere area reinvigorated my interest.

I managed to finish the game, but I don't think its' some messiah GOTY GOAT type gem. It's a solid platformer/metroid-y game. It could've done with a steeper difficulty curve, as most of the game is overly easy and once you've unlocked most things, everything becomes a total cakewalk, including the "True Boss" and all the optionals. Is what it is, i guess.

>>381153767
did you use your dream nail too see what is thinking?

>>381150770
White Palace gives it a run for its money

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSl1cMB1j7M

But I agree, those two are tied for my favorite theme

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>>381153767
>For a game this cutesy it has plenty of unsettling or outright spooky moments

Agreed

>>381134056
What's "enough" for you?

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>285 replies

let me guess

>>381138976
NitW is a fantastic game
If you don't like it it's most likely because it very specifically was not made for you
It was very specifically made for me

>>381155482
You know anon, there's also a website made for you...

>>381134056
Because it's a game that requires playing instead of just walking down a path and consuming Tumblr memes

>>381155653
Yeah, this one
If you're not a NEET then why are you on /v/

>>381155653
fuck you

>>381155801
Fuck YOU anon

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Hollow Knight was fantastic. I haven't been so validated by a purchase since mount and blade.

Seriously they did such a fucking great job and I was expecting garbage.

>>381155748
There's another website that you might like better, it starts with a t. Most people there will share your opinions.

>>381135347

>wet spot under thicc's crotch

is it lewd time or did she piss herself?

>>381156273
Ironic because these hollow knight threads are pure circlejerk.

>>381156383
But that specific post wasn't about Hollow Knight, faggot.

Trial of Fools was fun as heck. Lost Kin was the most intense boss fight I've had in a while. When you challenge Radiance at the end...

Great game

>>381156664
Yeah, it disrupted your circlejerking.

>>381156718
I don't care too much about Hollow Knight
I fucking hate Night in the Woods though.
You fucking retards should fuck off.

It's really a shame about this. It's such a fucking solid game on basically all fronts. Really shows for an indie studio that they know both their strengths, and their limitations. It's a total travesty that more people aren't talking about it, but I guess that's the fate of a game in such a niche genre

>>381154471
No, it was before i got the dream nail, or before i figured out i can read people's minds with it

>>381152826
You idiots did claim that. Those threads were literally /vg/ threads with infodumps as the first post. If it wasn't, it was stupid shit like "why aren't you playing the best game right now?" It was pure shilling.

>>381157373
you're pure shilling for retardation dude

>>381134724
Those crystals are meth. Your waifu is a crackhead.

>>381156375
Probably piss herself out of fear that some cunt soider is about to eat and murder her senpai.

>>381150317
>i-it's too linear!! N-not enough branching!!

>>381134056
Because it needs to hurry the fuck up and come to ps4 like holy fuck do i need to start a petition?

>>381157517

She writes actual fanfiction about real people she knows, you think she's mentally fit enough to react normally to being eaten? I bet she's a vore fetishist.

Team Cherry comes to you and asks who the next expansion's story should be about:
>the pale king and his 5 knights
>Quirrel
>Zote
>Tiso
>Fat fujo's fanfiction
Which do you chose, /v/?

because its only on the PC

>>381157678
Tiso died in the fools arena. Not even Zote died there.
I'd say quirrel

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>>381157438
Wow, you sure showed me!

>>381157664
>tfw wrote a smut fanfiction about some of my classmates in highschool
She's s gonna be fine. Will probably end up shitposting on hollownest's version of 4chan

>>381152805
You don't actually need to get ground pound, it's easier to grind for the lantern (you need it in deepnest anyway).

>>381150317
Fuckin knights tried to take Mantis Village for the Failed Tramway kek

The shilling for this game is ridiculous.

Why the fuck do you start the game at king's pass? Shit makes no sense

>>381143343
just wait for the summer sale, literally in 3 days

This board is fucking toxic, every single thread is the same spam over and over again.
>inb4 why are you here
I'm leaving for good you pieces of absolute shit.

>>381159846
why are you here

Metroidvanias are niche

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>indiebox has a grubfinding minigame on their site

Neat.

what are some other good metroidvania/platformers on steam? got this and slain on my wishlist.

>>381160268
what's the special reward if you free them all?

>>381160675
looks like an achievement on their website

>>381160675
Got me, I just found the thing.

>>381156273
It's funny, because there was a thread on /v/ just the other day that reached 400 posts about college dropout NEETs on this board
But no, it's definitely not a game specifically made for anyone on this board
How's high school going for you, by the way?

>>381160268
>can hear one on this page but it's not there (https://www.theindiebox.com/terms-and-conditions/)
>went back to main page to refresh
>it reset my progress
yeah nah fuck this

It's a boring game with bad combat and the exploration isn't reward. It's only good point is the artstyle.

>>381134056
>Is it because the artstyle and setting a huge turnoff to autists that flock to cartoony furfag ridden pixelshit like Undertale?

The art style is just flash shit. They would like this garish looking trash, if anything.

>>381161759
Night in the Woods is a piece of shit game made for a special breed of subhumans.
It is an absolutely abhorrent piece of shit game.
You "people" are the lowest pieces of shit on this board. Who posts shitty mobage and fetish threads on /v/? NEETs. They are responsible for almost all the bad quality posting this board is plagued with.
Most of the good posts are made by people who held jobs at some point of their life, and have actually good tastes in video games. You people are the polar opposite. There's a difference between needing some time in your life, and actually reveling in this inaction.
But how can you expect any human values from white males who dropped out of college, (because that's some easy teaching), and then proceeded to wallow in their misery? No, they won't get their shit together, they'll just shit up the board even more, in an attempt to pull all the discussion down to their level, with their shitty games like idolmaster or night in the woods. You god dam faggot, fuck off from this board and crawl to reddit.

>>381134056
How about because its not as good as everyone hypes it up to be?

I enjoyed it but when I got to the end and realized how little advancements there were in movement and progression abilities. The map needed serious work as well and has too many redundant shortcuts making them feel less important.

I get the whole dark souls is so cool so copy its death mechanic but it didnt really add to the experience at all aside from making stag stations a necessity to spend your currency.

>>381155801
No fuck you Leather Man

>>381165325
I have never seen a single person more confused about which internet subgroup is which.

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>>381157678
Dream Zote, make him the hardest boss in the game, like bullshit hard.

>>381134056
Saturation. I have played dozens of hollow knights over in the past couple of years alone.
Just one more on the pile. It's not a bad game it just isn't anything special at all and does nothing to shake up the formula.

>>381166272
I too like to act like I'm an authority about games I haven't played.

Post >yfw when you saw this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UujIEvkCdyw

Fine, I'll play it already, goddamn.

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>Mfw I miss the thread because I'm playing video games
>Mfw people are still shitting on it anyway.

Pure comedy kino.

>>381134056
Tell me the name of the game and I'll buy it and go into it blind