>set pieces up the ass (some of which don't even make

>>381089148
it was a lot people's first RE game, that's why.

>>381089148
The G A M E P L A Y
was THAT good

Refined gameplay, memorable moments, gameplay styles variety.

>>381089148
>basically started the third person qte fests
You have Shenmue to thank for that, actually desu

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>great environments
>great weapons
>fun bosses
>super spooky regenerator
>tons of extra content for replay value
couldn't tell ya

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>>381089324

This.
Playing the game was just so fucking amazing, I went back and played it again a few days ago and it still holds the fuck up, and the feedback you get from shooting enemies feels amazing.
The only problem I have with it is the control layout feels a bit outdated since it was made for GC.
QTEs are just unnecessary, but nothing more than that. Nostalgiafags need to get a grip and grow up.

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>>381089148
High standards

game drops off after the village

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>reload animations
Fuck man

>>381089148
it's fun, that's how
fucking fun as shit

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>>381089148
Capcom managed to perfectly thread the line between dark and goofy. It was like playing one of those cheesy B horror movies.

It was a lucky accident because they never managed to do this again.

>>381089148
There isn't a single design decision that is inherently bad for a game in existence. RE4 is finely tuned machine where every part of the gameplay and design compliments each other.

It's amazing because it used so many mechanics that became trends, but other devs had no regard for how they fit into the big picture like RE4's team did. That's why it's retarded when people blame RE4 for "muh ruined decade of gaming."

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What did RE4 had that TEW didnt?
Why did TEW failed?

What's wrong with RE4's set pieces? They were pretty dang good aside from those QTEs

>>381091702
leon didn't talk to himself throughout the whole damn game

Three ways.

1. It's linear, so you aren't wasting fucking time running around.
2. They handled the items you get very well.
3. The progression of the game felt perfect.

>>381090543
>feedback
This. I find it similar to God Hand. You FEEL when you hit somebody, and they react to every your action.

>>381091702
The crossbow bolts meant the whole game hinged on a single weapon, your melee was underpowered so it limited your combat options to just "run" when conserving ammo, and the game is balanced for stealth to be an option. In theory more options are better, but the amount of enemies thrown at you plus the lack of any ammo make the game's combat really frustrating, and boss fights feel like ammo dumps more than actual things to look forward to.

>>381091853

Not that anon, but Leon did talk to himself a lot. I havent played TEW.

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>>381089324
>be a pcbro
>play RE4 right after it's released on PC (2007)
>"oh cool, this plays almost like a pc game but not as good"
Meanwhile peasants rave about it ten fucking years later, lmao. Quake's gameplay blows this out of water and it was made a decade before, but you filthy shiteaters wouldn't know, would you?
Assuming you aren't entranced by the gameplay, the game itself is merely above average. It's also the ground zero of everything why current RE is a shitshow. Hell I'm playing CVX on PS2 right now and holy shit is it ever better than 4.

>>381092549
>I'm playing CVX on PS2 right now and holy shit is it ever better than 4.
6/10 a little too obvious but still good

>>381091128
The BAR is my favorite (other than the Red9) for this exact reason.

>>381091370
More like they never tried it again. RE5 was serious as all fuck. After the departure of Mikami, RE went to shit.

>>381089274
played re since the beginning, re4 is just a great game, friend made me play the first bit and i bought it full price the next day, bought in 2 other forms since then, great game

>>381089274
Started with 3 then 2 then 1, then REmake. Loved all of them. Then RE4 came and blew my mind, becoming one of the most groundbreaking games I've ever played

Anon, you should have played the classic RE's to know what it feels like when RE4 came out.

REMINDER THAT MOST CLASSICFAGS ON /v/ ARE UNDERAGE
REMINDER THAT MOST CLASSICFAGS ON /v/ ARE UNDERAGE
REMINDER THAT MOST CLASSICFAGS ON /v/ ARE UNDERAGE

If they were old enough to remember the early 2000s, they'd remember everyone was complaining about how stale the formula was after Zero/CV. Even though people were reluctant to RE4 changing the formula the way it did, almost everyone agreed they were ready for a breath of fresh air.

>>381092384
he didn't really though, outside of cutscenes, which are to be expected. Most of leon's dialogue during gameplay was just voiceless text-on-screen.

>>381094346
I remember the reviews. People did want a chance. Some were reluctant but Resident Evil 4 was beloved once it was actually released. Revitalized interest in the franchise.

What are those QTEs you're talking about? what does QTE mean?

Which version of RE4 is the best to play?

>>381094707
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYAwupPdY0k&

>>381094852
this was made into a smartphone game
really good

>>381094707
UHD on PC

>>381091702
They are two different games. It's like the idiots that compared RE5 and Gears of war 2. RE4 has a different approach to it's gameplay. Also TEW didn't fail. It's just people that wanted it to be RE4 or REmake were disappointed with a different type of game.

Quick
Post your favorite theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iapp_Dn1OnE

Also, why there is a lot of Spic videos about REs? I thought they only like KOF

>>381094707
Wii version

>>381095964
Play it with a gamecube/classic controller if you do this. The motion controls are great, but fuck the game's balance.

>>381096152
Are you a dolt? The motion controls are so fun, it's no worse than playing on M&KB.

>>381095913
crackcom games are very famous here.spic weebs love monster hunter and megaman

>>381096293
I don't advocate M&KB either. Leon's supposed to have shaky aim, and the wiimote/mouse trivialize a lot of the challenge. I think it's a great way to experience the game after the first playthrough, but I wouldn't recommend it for the first run.

regereniggers are spooky

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>Decided to finally beat the game on professional last week
I never knew such bullshit before in my life.

>>381097421
5-4 on professional was the only time I've ever thrown a controller in my life. I have no desire to ever repeat that. Congrats, anon!

>>381096398
Spic (Mexican) here, a few reasons RE games are so popular here are:

-During the late 90's the PS1 was easy as fuck to mod and piracy was rampant on it, even little kids with no internet conection could get pirated copies of games for like, 20 pesos (which was worth around 2 dollars back then) so everyone and their mother played at least one of the classic RE games since they were violent games for the badass big boys and they wanted to see what the big fuzz was about.

-I think it was one of the first games to be fully translated to spanish in america. Similar to Metal Gear Solid.

-The movies are super popular down here, they even get aired on local channels pretty often.

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>>381095964
So good.

>>381089148
>>basically started the third person qte fests
Nope, God of War

>>381089148
>>the poster boy of production hell
>Duke Nukem
>Final Fantasy
>Kingdom Hearts

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The game
is fun
If it's not fun
why bother?

>>381097620
Those fucking turrets man, no to mention I had little to no fucking ammo. Never again indeed.

>>381089148
It's a really fun game

>>381092029
>It's linear
There's a lot of backtracking throughout the game

>>381089148
>>radical shift in just about everything about the series before hand

Only plebs think that RE wasn't about blasting zombies away with excess of ammo.

>>381096293
not him but they trivialize everything about the game because the only remotely hard thing you do is aiming. it's like playing with cheats on

>>381093315
>RE5 was serious as all fuck
Nah, it went full anime if anything

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>>381097994
Dota 2 is not fun and I have been playing it for years haha

>>381095532
>Also TEW didn't fail. It's just people that wanted it to be RE4 or REmake were disappointed with a different type of game.
The entire marketing campaign was "A SURVIVAL HORROR GAME FROM THE MASTER OF SURVIVAL HORROR, SURVIVAL HORROR IS BACK" when it was really jut a third person shooter

>>381089148
>the poster boy of production hell

Out of any game that would hold that title, how the fuck is RE4 one of them?

>>381093315
>RE5
>Serious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xuXkVzBdJQ

>>381098097
Yes, linearly backtracking

>>381097421
lmao, try pistol only no upgrades, pleb

>>381098513
RE7 was marketed as Survival horror and it's just as action horror as all the other RE7 in the last tens years. So was Dead space 1 and and they where action games too. It would be dumb not to use that as a selling point.

>>381099352
TEW had some weird tonal issues with it. The first part of the game is pretty much pure stealth, but the later parts wanna be resident evil 4, but with less ammo. Hopefully 2 fixes that issue.

>>381096152
>>381096473
>controls are difficulty
Stop with this meme

The pacing. The game always knew right when to throw a boss at you or slow things down to let you catch your breath, or straight up change the rules of combat (put you in a minecart, protect Ashley, now you're fighting bugs, etc.). Resident Evil fucking FLOWS like a good jazz piece.

>>381099304
Why on earth would I do that to myself?

>>381098889
>linearly backtracking
what did he mean by this?

>>381091702
Likeable if goofy characters across the whole cast, and a very simple narrative where no matter what dumb shit was happening, you always knew what you were doing and what your goal was. Also only like two enemies with instant kill attacks.

>>381097421

What was so hard exactly? I went professional on my second time through and 11 playthrough's later I've never not bothered with professional. Honestly been a while though, my memory has faded somewhat. I remember the most trouble I ever had was when you were in the castle and there's that big room with the two fountains and tons of enemies attack you. Either that or when you first get to the island on disc two and have to deal with miniguns for the first time.

>>381100221

Maybe hes playing a version that runs at a higher framerate and fucks up the damage values for a lot of attacks.

>>381100068

That the game didn't have very many paths so you're always essentially going from point A to point B with no way of deviating. There's what, like four or five instances where you even have the choice to go a different route and they're all for extra treasure and set you back on the main path almost immediately.

>>381091702
TEW didn't fail. If RE4 is a A/A+ TEW is a C+/B-.

It just had alot of bullshit with instant kill set piece segments out the ass and some awful levels here and there. Otherwise it didn't do much wrong. It was enjoyably challenging id say Nightmare was harder then Pro mode on RE4 by a solid degree and combat was alittle more fun although RE4 was far less wonky and had a worthwhile melee.

>>381090283
Shenmue may have done it first but RE4 popularized it.

>>381100383

Is that a thing? Resident Evil 4 was never too hard once you got used to using your knife and knowing how to crowd control. Get a handgun/TMP for general head/knee shots to set up melee and beyond that mix it up however you want. Could never go wrong with that shotgun that holds 100 rounds or fucking around with the dart gun.

>>381097421
It wasn't that hard. Only the first rooms of the island, the final room with Mike, and U3/"It" were hard.

Big room with hoisting Ashley up to lower the bridge wasn't that bad.

Gameplay was fun. Market wasn't glutted with similar games.

Uncharted 4 shares a lot of similarities, but it's for babbies

give me ONE (1) reason why RE8 shouldnt be this
https://youtu.be/M7gk569uaYE

>>381097421
Beat the game as many times as I have and pro becomes easy as fuck. I ended the game with like 10 full heals last time I played.

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>RE4 is perfect and doesn't have a single bad pa-

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>>381101317
owo what's this??

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>>381092549
>>be a pcbro
>playing CVX on PS2
Why not just emulate?

>>381101317
you must be a retard to have problems with that thing

>>381092146
i think this is why the melee attacks are so good, they're not glory kill style finishers that take up seconds of time to kill an enemy just from pressing one button, they're a legitimately useful combat tactic to stagger one foe and usually a group of others, and they feel so good to do. everything about that system complements the playstyle

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>>381099583
Not really. You can play it without it all the way through.(except for the tutorial) It's just like Classic REs but replacing running with Stealth+hiding. Early in the games of RE it encourages running from enemies until you build up your armory and then you are killing Monsters in every room. Same thing with TEW.

>>381100697

>Is that a thing?

Yeah. Things like the dog's tentacle flailing will basically one-shot you at 60 FPS/Professional. It's not the most notable thing though since damage is preventable and usually well-telegraphed in RE4,

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>>381101317
Ahhh, I remember the many hours I spent here.

Puzzles are one of the most patrician touch on games and make any game 10 times better for me.

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>>381101443
>that hanged men puzzle
>yfw the optimal solution is 1 2 3 4

>>381089148
BRING IT TO THE SWITCH.

Help me PCbros

ever since I got my MSI laptop I can't get this game to run, it just runs in an invisible window, than automatically shuts itself down

Its not an OS issue since I played this on w10 before. I can get the game to run in a small black square if I set fullscreen to 0 in Config.txt

Because it has decent combat, inventory management that's fun and not a total fucking chore that nobody wants to deal with, and doesn't use a shitty fucking isometric camera like the previous REs.

>>381101845
You have to be at least 21 to post here.

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>>381089148
it's good game... but 2bh REmake is much better imo, and I'm usually someone that's a huge sucker for action gameplay.

REmake is just a ridiculously beautiful game with incredible balance. I can't get over how good its atmosphere and art style is, along with the amazing feeling of dread the game fills you with. The non-linearity is brilliant and how the game's world opens up to you metroidvania style is fantastic. I played it for the first time in my life about two weeks ago. First beat it on Normal with Jill, then Hard with Chris, then Survivor with Jill, pretty much back to back playthroughs. I don't know what it is but I absolutely fell in love with the game and it instantly became one of my all time favourites. It was also such a huge reminder of how fucking dumbed down video games have become since its release.

After beating it on survivor I actually felt sad it was over. I was craving more of a game of its quality so downloaded RE4 but unfortunately it just doesn't hit the same mark. I get it, apples and oranges, the games are very different, but to me RE4 just doesn't touch the satisfaction that REmake gave me to play through. Don't get me wrong, RE4 is a very fun action game, but my god I absolutely love REmake. What a fucking game.

I want more games on REmake's level. I've played through RE2 and Code Veronica X, is there anything else? I'm gonna try emulating RE3 for PSX soon.

>>381089148
all you have to do is create a basic and satisfying combat loop and people who don't know any better will eat it right up, no matter how insanely repetitive you make the back half of your game

>>381089148
Generation defining gameplay (over the shoulder shooter)

>>381101617
i bet you like it when a game forces you to do simon says

>>381102136
Sorry dude, every RE before 4 is a massive pile of shit with easy puzzles and braindead combat with autoaim because they know the isometric camera is trash. The correct way to play the game is to avoid literally every enemy in the entire game by baiting out attacks and running past them for like two hours until you're done. What great game design, I sure am glad I'm playing this pile of shit rather than literally any other video game right now.

>>381102180
I feel you, anon. While everybody sucks RE4 dick by saying it saved the series, to my eyes it was only a generic TPS with "zombies" in it.
The survival is pretty much gone in 4, you get items everywhere, you don't need to think things through, you don't need to plan, you simply move forward killing everything that moves, it's completely linear.
I know it's a different style of gameplay, but fuck this, RE 1 - 3 were far more enjoyable to me.

Try RE3, RE0 (there's a chance you will dislike this one), and also RE7 brought back the "i need to think where i should go now" type of feeling. You should also try the original RE1, REmake is better imo, but besides the voice acting the original one is good.

>>381102941
Ok lil dude.

>>381103158
The voice acting and live action cutscenes are the only reason to play the originals

>>381089148
>one of the best games ever made
it's a good game but you're fucking delusional if you seriously think this.

>>381102180

how is REmake not incredibly linear?

>>381103158
>and also RE7 brought back the "i need to think where i should go now" type of feeling.
I'm planning on getting RE7 when it's very cheap, maybe black friday. What did you think about it? I'm interested in your opinion 'cause you're on the same page as me. What would you give it out of 10 and how does it compare to the originals? How's its replay value? Cheers my dude.

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>>381101317
FUCK
>Replaying RE4 for the 264th time
>Get to this puzzle
>Don't remember ever struggling with this
>Raging as it takes me a hour to solve it
>Tfw im becoming more and more retarded as I age

>>381104708
You have multiple routes you can take to get to areas in the mansion. If one area is filled with enemies you don't want to encounter you can go another way. Keys open up multiple doors that you can access in any order you like. The game is also filled with backtracking and revisiting areas, of course. How can you call this a linear game?

>>381101782
Sounds like either resolution or refresh rate incompatibility

>>381104834
First half of the game is pretty good, 2nd half is trash.

>>381105906
this. Also when you start the game you're not told where to go. It's about exploring and figuring out what you have to do, where you can and can't go. you don't just walk down a straight planned route knowing you're going the right way, you have to figure out the mansion/map and remember where the key doors are etc.

>>381105906
It's still linear with the illusion of choices.

>>381106414
You're an idiot dude. By definition it's not linear if I can use multiple ways to get to a given point. Stay fucking stupid though.

>>381106414
>i-it's still linear because I say so
fuck off neckbeard

>>381099304
Daemon?

>>381104834
Not him, but I played through it like 3 days ago so it's pretty fresh in my mind. The first hour or so is incredibly awful, it's basically a walking sim, but once you get past that and you get some actual gameplay it's nice. Though in the end it has that kinda weird mix between being kinda old school but the developers not daring to go to far so it's still clings to a lot more modern casual trends. It's a survival game, but you still get showered with ammo and health items, it has the old style of level design, but all the levels are tiny and far to linear, it has that slow paced methodical combat, but none of the enemies are challenging since you can just walk backwards while shooting.

Overall it's a pretty enjoyable game, but I would still rate it among the lower end of the spectrum when it comes to classic style RE games. It just overall feels like a classic RE game for the casual market who never actually got into the classic RE games.

Also >>381106265. Once you leave the cabin and go to the boat/mine it just loses the few things it had going for it and plays more like a shittier Revelations.

>>381097421
I got to the castle on professional with outfit 2 and wanted to die because of fucking ashley.

I beat Seperate Ways and started over again just so Ashley could have armour.

>>381103158
>it was only a generic TPS with "zombies" in it.
But there was no tps like RE4 before it. How is it generic?

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>>381091128

>>381100697
The TMP scored a lot of crit headshots on Pro

Worth keeping imo

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>>381107237

>>381089148
>production hell
what happened

>>381097421
I did it when I wanted to get all the achievements.

Apart from the early game when you have fuck all weapons it was hard as fuck but it quickly got it was easier than I thought it would be. I even played it while half watching TV on my other monitor. It was pretty comfy.

>>381103832
It's my personal GOAT. Deal with it.

>>381107343
which kind bolt action let's you use stripper clips from the side?

>>381107794
There is a swiss one I believe.

>>381089148
Because it felt like a 360 game a gen before that shit was common.

>>381107794
The sniper version of the K31 is designed to use stripper clips from the side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAshu34OvC0

>>381107098
What about GTA, Max Payne and Syphon Filter?

>>381107449
Unless I have it wrong:
First Kamiya was developing it but after it turned out to be far to action oriented(kek) they revamped it to be DMC and Shibata took over development of RE4, he ended up making three different versions of the game that all ended up getting scrapped in the end, and finally Mikami who has the produced of the game stepped in and took over the director position, and he thought since the RE formula was getting stale and not selling as well anymore RE4 should be remade to be an action game.

>>381107017
Is it at least challenging and more 'survival horror' like on the hardest setting?

>>381108345
None of them are over the shoulder shooters.

What are the best weapons in RE4? Which guns should I look to get on the hardest difficulty? Playing on normal now as it's all that's unlocked but plan to beat it on pro as well.

>>381108664
The hardest setting allows enemies to chase you farther and show up in new places
Adds the harder version of enemies much much earlier
Has way less healing items and ammo instead making it stuff to craft those things
AND finally, it actually changes up the progression by putting a very early vital key to expand you options on where to go in the main hub so you can do things in a very different order rather than exactly like last time.

I was not expecting it to actually feel like a proper game.

>>381107237
>chambers 3 rounds
>6 get loaded

Nothin' personal, Ganados.

>>381089148
>>STILL one of the best games ever made
>How did they do it bros?
Because it was still a blast to play
All of those things you mentioned are only annoying in bad games
RE4 is so well made that it actually makes shitty things fun

>>381108928
so on the hardest setting what would you rate the game out of 10?

>>381109007
Doesn't he only put 2 shells in the shotgun no matter how much rounds it's carrying?

>>381095089
Where are all the mods for it? You know what mods.

>>381109181
>Have to go get a beer everytime Leon reloads his 100 cap Shotgun

>>381109094
I wasnt the other 2 guys but it was a 5/10 on the first run. Did it again on normal to speedrun and unlock a thing then did hard and was able to enjoy each time. Went from probably 5/10 to 7/10 on the hardest setting though, a damn shame I wasnt able to play it on hardest to begin with because I think I would have enjoyed it a shit load more not knowing the maps.

Maybe look for a save file that already has it unlocked? I agree with all the other points anons have made but the final area kind of flops on itself, but not as bad as the first hour where it literally felt like a walking sim. I enjoyed the rest though quite a bit.

>>381108664
I only played it on normal since it was my first run. Though I expect so, and it also makes saving a limited resource, which made normal mode have almost no tension what so ever. I feel like if I knew how easy it was gonna be and if they didn't force you to play though the game once to unlock it(or fucking preorder it) I would have gone for that no question.

You can read up on the difficulties more here
http://www.gosunoob.com/resident-evil-7/re7-difficulty-settings-explained/

>STILL one of the best games ever made
no

What is it about RE4 that makes fags so butthurt about it being the best game of its gen? I sincerely want to know. Open up quick reply and type, "RE4 makes me shit my pants because..." go ahead, finish that sentence. Literally kill yourself if you don't think it's at least a 9/10.

>>381108909
I just used the same weapons I used for normal on Pro and had no issues. Just use what you find the best/most enjoyable.

For me it's the Red9, Shotgun and later Striker, Broken Butterfly and the Bolt-Action Rifle. I basically just went with power over speed.

>>381089148
The first three things you listed are tools that are not inherently good or bad. This game uses them all correctly.

>>381109980
is the game utterly god tier on pro difficulty?

cant wait pham.

Did you get all them bottlecaps?

Whenever somebody tries to explain that a game is popular for atmosphere or some other vague aspect instead of gameplay, you know they're retarded.

>>381110126
Not really. It's just the same more or less but you take more damage and enemies are a bit faster. I didn't really have to alter any tactics or go out of my way to play it differently. There were a few areas there are pretty damn difficult but most of the game is reasonably easy, especially when you have a few weapons upgraded. By the end of the game you forget you are even playing Professional.

>>381110461
well that sucks

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>>381110308
>play PC HD version
>switch to mouse aiming during the target practice
>get them all really easily

Felt like I was cheating a bit but damn the target practice is boring as all fuck.

>>381099763
>controls CANT be difficulty

what?

Did you know RE4 has a dynamic difficulty that changes based on the damage you take and kills you get.

Certain enemies can even be removed completely if you die too much, this is a speed running strategy in some areas, to die repeatedly until the game lowers the enemy count.

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>>381094346
why does this matter? the underage have better taste then

>>381110625
It's still pretty fun though don't get me wrong, but it's more like normal but with a lot more tension.

>>381089324
This

RE4 revolutionized the over the shoulder shooter and it did it wonderfully.

>>381110846
Because the formula was getting stale. Did you even read the post you replied to?

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>>381094707
Gamecube with Chainsaw controller.

>>381111840
And it's still the best in the genre.

Mostly because the other ones became generic cover shooters.

>>381111843
I read it and I don't see what it has to do with anything

the formula was getting stale
re4 comes around and people love it
now over a decade later some people like the classic style more

what's your point?