Let's discuss things that are quietly overpowered as shit.

>>381069831
DS1's power within, the boss destroyer.

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>>381069831
>tfw i pick the cheesiest build of each souls game because i only care about story and plat
DeS: FTH build Lucerne
DaS: STR build BKGA
DaS2: STR build Great Club
BB: SKL build BoM
DaS3: QLY build Longsword

feels good to be shameless

>>381069831
that was my shit on pvp

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This bad boy.

I mean, sure you need to beat someone in combat before you can torture them into submission, but the Avatar respawns in the last level and it's a huge help if you corrupted him the first time, plus all his friends.

Rusted Weapons in Dragon's Dogma or the Blessed magic Bolt from a charged Square/X attack with a staff.

One poisons/slows a target to the point of making them anon-issue while the other does MASSIVE damage to enemies and HEALS YOU for the damage done.

Both available very quickly in the beginning of the game.

>>381070239
Bloodborne's a cake walk with Bloodtinge builds. The damage output from just one Shot of your gun is ludicrous.

>>381069831
>At 40 Dex its 2hR1 spam has the highest DPS of any weapon in the game
Falchion is very good, but the Painting Guardian Sword has higher DPS.

>>381070340
The rusted bow was so fucking good, at 3 stars you could slow, poison, and destroy anything with a 5-fold arrow attack.

I don't know if there was a rusted longbow but if it was it was probably the strongest weapon in the game with the 7-fold arrow.

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If you wanted to walk into a town and murder every god damn player you see, it might as well be with one of these.

>>381070575
I gotta try this. You can buy the rusted weapon from some merchant, I recall

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>>381069831
>things that are quietly overpowered as shit.

THIS FUCKING COCKSUCKING PIECE OF SHIT FAGGOT MOTHERFUCKING BITCHFAG SON OF A BITCH BASTERD is a good example

>>381069831
Nah, the Zweihander is the easiest weapon to use in the game and you can get it five mins in.

Works early game, works late game, works in PVP, and feels fantastic to use.

Not even very good stat scaling, fuck your falchion, I fucked up your kind back then in the forest and I could go back and do it again, it's not that good dexfag.

DS3 anri sword with a luck build
Before the nerf practically no one knew this shit was busted
You got absurd dmg on a sword that took damn near no stamina to use, it was something.

DS1 gold tracer and that one half dragon bitch's scythe, okay so the scythe is more so known but wasn't used a ton. The gold tracer on the other hand I've never seen used all that much in pvp. The damn thing was a fast bleed wep that broke poise pretty fast, so poise fags and turtling fags never saw it coming when you whipped it out.

>>381071212
The blood of mothers and fathers stained my Lifehunt Scythe

>>381070452
Yeah, but then you have to manage your bullets. Just play strength with the axe starter and snooze through the game.

>>381070239
Are BoM good for PVE? Seem like a straight PVP weapon. Honestly all the skill weapons do except maybe the Saif and Pick.

>>381071212

Gold Tracer is Falchion + great bleed and cool effects, it was very popular along with the Fury Sword.

>>381071150
>winning 1v3 in the forest using my trusty zwei
Dex fags will never understand

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Mesa from Warframe.

Everyone who plays warframe knows Mesa is strong, but call her what she is, the strongest frame in the game, and people will call you crazy. It's the total truth though. No other frame combines the survivability and raw damage output that this frame does. She obliterates every enemy on her screen in a matter of seconds and can just stand there taking bullets to the face and not giving a fuck because lol 95% damage reduction. She will regularly do 80% of a teams damage all by herself while the rest of the team sits and twiddles their thumbs because theres no point in trying to kill anything before Mesa does. I actually don't even play this frame anymore because she just trivializes every bit of content in the game and I feel bad not letting the other people in the squad do anything.

That stupid fucking crossbow in TF2.
Got some dipshit halfway across the map who's about to die? Left click for an instant 60HP boost. Got some cuntfuck scout who's running away with the intel? He thinks you're just a medic with the crappy syringe gun that has a range of 3 feet, slap his shit for half his health in one shot. It's ridiculous and the medic's functional equivalent of the Direct Hit. If you have even the slightest modicum of ability to lead your shots then you become retard good in an instant.

>>381071431
They're only good against enemies that stagger real easy. They have garbage range, barring the dash attack, and the only real damage they get is the tricked r1 spam.
Don't get me wrong, it's probably the highest dps of any weapon if you can maintain it, but such situations are few and far between.

>>381071150
Zwei's problem, like literally every STR weapon is Dark Souls, is that it's too damn slow.

1 hit for 500 damage is not the same as 2 hits for 250 damage each, especially if those hits come out faster, recover faster, and use up less stamina. Add buffs into the equation, and now your Zwei is doing maybe 650-700 damage per swing while I'm doing 500 damage per swing and I can keep swinging as long as I want.

>>381070239
>mfw got BKH drop on 1st blind play through
>that point on game is a breeze

The axe and sword are always talked about, but the halberd was just as OP and was the best one to use with a shield.

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>>381069960
>when you use it along with that +50% sorcery length ring
Hell you can put some great magic weapon on top of that too with little INT investment. It also had stamina boost so with the stamina ring plus grass crest shield you got instant stamina recovery even without child mask.
Now I will make a new character with these just to see how fast I can kill the bosses.

>>381069831

dark souls 2 cleric starting mace

>>381071212
As soon as I saw how stupidly strong Raw Astora's was, then looked at Anri's base stats and scaling, I knew it was going to be bonkers. Speedrunners were planning whole runs around getting to Anri and leveling up Luck as early as possible.

I'm honestly so mad that they nerfed it because Luck builds are my favorite builds in any game, and DS3 seemed like it finally made Luck a viable stat to invest in, and then they go and gut all the things that made Luck nice to begin with. It's like how DS2 gutted Zeus builds.

>>381069831
iirc the Painting Guardian Sword actually outdamages it + procs bleed, but it's range is absolute shit

The AOE fire spells in Demons Souls

You can beat most bosses with only like 4-6 fucking casts if your equipment is right


Not sure if it counts but the pyromancy and talisman glitch from dark souls 3 was fucking fun as shit to use. I'm assuming it's been fixed now though. (Maybe not hopefully?)

>>381069831
>quietly overpowered
>posts the most notorious gankspanking build from DaS1

as always, OP is a fag

>>381072813
This. Underrated as fuck, just about every enemy takes massive damage from maces and the staggering and speed makes it east to stunlock most enemies. The only negative is the extra short range.

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The machine pistols in Rainbow 6 Siege, but mostly the SMG-11.

In a game with one hit kill headshots from any range with any weapon, the best types of weapons to use are those with high fire rate and low recoil. This kind of gun allows you to get more accurate shots towards a head and win firefights faster. The SMG-11 fits this description perfectly, boasting the highest fire rate in the game while accommodated by low recoil.
This wouldn't be a problem at all, if it weren't a fucking secondary weapon. Yes, this monster of a gun competes against pistols.

Hardly anyone agrees that this gun (and the only other machine pistol in the game, which goes to show you how hesitant the devs are to add these things in) is in need of a rebalance. In fact, you're more likely to find people who defend their crutch gun to the death, especially after having it's ACOG sight removed. This only took the retarded devs a better part of a year to come to the conclusion that having a pocket sniper isn't balanced.
The worst part about machine pistols in this game is the operators who have access to them. Great primary gun, universally useful and round influencing gadget, and 3 speed? Sounds like they need some extra firepower! Mid tier gun, near useless or situational gadget, and 1 speed? Whoa now, that would be a little too much.

>>381072695
The trade off is that the Zwei can hit multiple enemies at once, immediately stagger most enemies, and tank through hits better because poise.

>>381072695
>>381073687
Agree with this anon, and it also feels damn good to use.

>>381073684
Eh, as a scrub gold1 player they seem fine to me, in fact almost every weapon feels viable to me including shotguns on defense on certain maps.

>>381072679
So stick with the pick/saif/maybe rakuyo for a skill build in pve?

>>381071431
BoM are great until you get to ToH. Research lab and Ludwig with them being my only +5 weapon was awful.

>>381072813
Rapier is insane in DaS2, especially Ricards.

>>381071431
I used the BoM through to NG+4 and cleared the DLC and chalice dungeon final boss with them. There was one boss I simply could not beat but I don't think it was my weapon's fault, and it was the cursed chalice dungeon darkbeast.

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>Play OS Runescape
>Erryone sucking dick for Berserker pures
>Meanwhile mage pures fly under the radar

Grinding out the Attack level to equip a Toxic Staff of the Dead with only 45 strength sucks ass though.

>>381074141
Yeah, I mean, as always, pick whatever weapon you want and make it work for you, but for versatility and ease-of-use, Pick and Saif are going to be way better options than BoM. Could still be a good pickup early game if you don't mind cheesing whats-her-face to death. That's where the most staggerable enemies are anyways.

>>381074486
Thrusting swords were disgusting in that game due to the way they changed Counter Hits. In DS1 Counter Hits were pretty rare, kind of gimmicky. You could only pull them off if you were tanking behind a tower shield or something, but when DS2 changed the rules so that a Counter Hit was any time you hit an enemy during its attack animation, high Counter weapons like Thrusting swords got real busted, real fast.

RoBFlynn + Leo Ring + Power Stanced Thrusting Swords did something like 1400 damage per hit. Goddamned disgusting.

>>381071870
I've been interested to try out Warframe for longest time. Should start it this summer. Is it good Idea to unlock this frame immediately with like real money?

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>missing that kick fuckboy?

>>381069831
>Falchion
>quietly overpowered

OP. Did you uh. Did you miss the memo?
https://youtu.be/QXsSC756o20

>>381069831
Why would you come on to the internet and spout lies?
It does NOT have the highest DPS in the game with 40 main stat, that title goes to the BKGA.
It does, however, have the highest DPS in the game if you include weapon enchantments.

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>>381074928
Do not play Warframe. You have been warned.

>>381075237
But why?

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This thing was the shit, pre-patch back in the day

>>381075350
Not that anon. Don't do it. You'll grind to unlock more efficient grinding so you can... do nothing

>>381075350
All there is to the game is multiple levels of grindception.

>>381075350
it's literally grind to grind the game there's literally nothing else to do

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>>381075350
>>381075408
>>381075467
>>381075498
Play it for the booty, nothing else.

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>>381075350
It's a shit game and the devs are shit. You will regret all the time and money you spent on that game.

It's a game based around grinding where the bosses are designed intentionally so you can't steamroll them. That normally wouldn't be a problem but they use cheap shit like invincibility periods instead of actual mechanics.

Not only that but it's just a multi-layered grind. You grind to get items so you can grind in exclusive areas so you can grind for pieces so you can grind for the pieces of those pieces.

>>381075350
The absolutely absurd amount of grinding because of RNG loot tables and waiting on the foundry.

>>381075672
Instead of playing the game you could just learn 3D animation and rendering and just make your own warframe porn

>>381075391
There's no way it was the intended functionality

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>>381075750
>instead of playing a game where assets are already there, put effort and work in to wank to your own stuff
Anon, do you know where we are.

Thanks for the heads up guys, I'll skip it then if there really isn't much else except the endless grind.

>>381069831
>dexfag
Fuckin disgusting

>>381075893
Try it anyway for a few hours. You'll either like it or hate it.
Remember, never take advice from /v/. /v/ hates videogames.

>>381074748
When Ancient magicks first came out that was the most broken shit there has ever been.

>>381075769
The thing was amazing, used it on my 360 with no idea how powerful it was at first, when i found out about the patch I played offline to avoid the nerf

>>381076085
>Ancient

No nigger. Fire Wave.
Tome of Fire, Occult Neck, Smoke Battlestaff. Max hit 36 at 51 combat.

>>381070505
PGS is the Falchion for skilled players anon, let the babbies play with their toys

>>381076315
>Occult Neck
I thought you said oldschool.

>>381076360
Yes.
http://oldschoolrunescape.wikia.com/wiki/Occult_necklace

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>>381076014
Look I'm warning ya. Don't play Warfarm.

>no kick

it was the only reason i didnt use it

>>381076396
3 years is oldschool?

>>381076530
Do you even know what OSRS is?

>>381069831
>Falchion and a maxed Pyro flame in each hand
>45 DEX
>a shitload of attunement and pyromancies (can't remember the exact ones, but at least two attunements of great cumblast, black flame, great fireball, fire surge, and firestorm)
>Bellowing Dragoncrest Ring, Wolf Ring, Dusk set + giant gauntlets
Behold: Rape Incarnate
If you start as the right class and minmax the stats with this loadout you end up at SL120 with a lightrolling character with poise enough to tank a hit from anything, that can sling two souped-up Great Combustions a second due to the DEX casting speed boost. Absolutely tears through Giantdads and Havelmoms.

>>381076583
Obviously not because I assumed you were talking about Runescape when it was Old School rather than a specific Old School Runescape.
I haven't played the game since like 2005.

>>381076841
You're way out of the loot.
Jagex tried to turn Runescape into a WoW clone. It failed abysmally hard. Eventually they started up some Legacy servers from a backup a week before the Wilderness removal in 2007, which took off like a rocket. It started out with 1 developer, 1 manager and 1 Q&A guy on the team, but has been expanded to be the main focus of Jagex, since it gets roughly twice as many players as RS3.

>>381077035
Oh cool, so they brought back the wilderness? Did they fix all the issues the grand exchange stuff caused?

>>381077629
For a while. Unfortunately there was a massive reddit campaign that convinced them to reintroduce the GE itself.

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>>381069831
Bitch please.
Posting an actual tier list.

>>381078729
>stone greatsword+magic stuff

kek

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>>381069831
>there are people out there who follow "the dark souls meta" and stick to level 125 because "muh peeveepee"

I never understood this? Is this suppose to be fun? Because its not, especially in DS1 when your enemy can always pop a humanity in a snap and get back to full health, so why stick to low stats and not go all out, its even more fun this way because when you got most of your stats high enough, anything goes and makes pvp more interesting instead of fighting the same fucking dumbass with one of the 4 fucking builds everyone does because they cant think of something on their own. Normally i dont care how people play their games, but i just wish people actually use their brains and be creative.

>>381078729

>MFW all the fight clubs I won with my great scythe

the running attack was so fucking good

>>381078964
You're matched by soul level relative to other players. Low SL makes it impossible to use most builds while high SL makes it impossible to find people. 125 is the generally agreed upon level that maximizes rate of finding people while also unlocking nearly all builds as an option.

>>381079157
It won't work against competent players, mind you.
Now when the only people left in the game are giantmoms you will just get poisestabbed for trying to use it.

>>381079164
not really, it's only used so fags have max health max endurance max damage stats and enough left over for a buff spell

>>381075350
It's a wasted opportunity at its finest. The movement and fighting feels great initially, but soon you realise that all enemies are either so easy you can defeat them with one hand on your dick, or so tough that it's more sensible to just run to the objective instead of bothering to fight them - no middle ground. The powers could have been distinct and cool, but almost all of them are so overpowered that they pretty much boil down to "activate to one shot a group of enemies". The design is great and the game has a huge story potential, but there is almost no plot, no lore and missions are randomly generated repetitive bullshit. And oh, the grinding. Basically they could have had a great game, but somehow fucked up every single aspect.

>>381079164
125 is the "I just need a few more levels I promise" fag tier

big boys play at 120

real men play at 100

manchildren play at sl1 and invade the parish with +15 everything

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>>381079164
Like i said, its still quite limited, what if i wanted to try out some minor spells and see how that goes? but i cant because i'll probably wont have any attunement. same goes for any sword if i was either building str or dex. I did the giant cheese in DS2 on one character and got very high in matchmaking range, went ahead and did some pvp in arenas and it wasnt that bad, and if i ever wanted to try some silly new build i did just that saving myself from grinding a new character in the process. I dont mind making many new characters but having these made up rules is silly.

>>381079569

>finally reached undead purgatory
>"Oh sweet, dont mind me some pvp action"
>Duelist found
>Dark Weapon + kat
>"meh, well alright, lets fight someone else..."
>Duelist found
>Sacret oath + lighting weapon
>mfw

>>381077732
but the GE was a shit.

>>381079569
99 should really be where people stop. It leaves you just out of range of both 80 and 120, which I always hear as the common ones. 120 always seemed too high to me as well though.

>>381080005
Yes but reddit autists don't want to have to talk to people to trade.

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>>381070297
plus it attracted the mistresses, who were great fighters at high levels
>speed spell
>lightning spell
>kinky as fuck

>>381070340
>tfw strider pawn with gold forged rusted bow
bbi 2.0 became a cakewalk and i got millions of rc

>>381079912
The Purgatory punishes players for losing so you'd be foolish to not go in and cover yourself in cheese.

>>381080105
This is why MMOs suck now, they've gone from Social games to just garbage solo games.

>>381072715
I agree, the moment i got BKH it carried all the way to the end. That with full havel armor cheeses the entire game.

>>381070239
THE cheesiest shit in DeS was definitely dragonbone smasher with curse weapon and hypermode.
Lucerne and greatax FTH builds were pretty neat as well, if a little obvious.
I always had trouble with the maneaters and 2kat faggots, but with the DBS+curse they all died with one or two hits. No one ever saw the roll+r1 coming.

>>381078729
Washing Pole is, unironically so, pretty balanced.

>>381081586
DS1 washing pole was garbage.

>>381069831
idk the Lifehunt scythe was the shit in pvp

>>381081951
False.

>>381082241
Play with it against any competent opponent and you will get destroyed.
It's slower than other katanas which makes it hilariously unsafe to use in a game with overpowered poise.
If you want a weapon with range, you use spear.
If you want to use katana, you use chaos blade.
It's that simple.

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>>381078729
MFW i main the gargoyle halberd with maxed pyro on my level 8 file, and pvp the shit out of level 200s in anor londo

>>381080105
I fucking hate reddit

>>381069831
Falchion is trash and oroboro is trash, unless you're a buff babby and all you do is forest invasions.
I hate that faggot so much, I bodied him a thousand times in dark souls 2 pvp, he had to use at least 10 crutches to even get close to hitting me. All of the soulbrandt are autists, fuck.

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>>381082461
Chaos garg halberd has the highest backstab damage of all elemental weapons from what i remember, so it's not surprising bads can't handle it.

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>>381078729
lmao this tier list is so retarded
>claymore not in top tier
>halberd not in top tier
>zweihander not in shit tier
>great scythe not in top tier
>gold tracer not in top tier
at least they got some of the weapons right

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>>381069831
>dark souls 1 falchion
>overpowered
It's been 6 years since the game released, how do people still not know how to toggle escape? It's trash in PvP
>well into multiple NG+
It's not even the best weapon for PvE

>>381082415
>Play with it against any competent opponent and you will get destroyed.
It's funny because people always talked big on 4chan but when it came to fight clubs they suddenly all turned to complete shitters who started to whine to the FC host when their 10th attempt to beat me in a duel didn't work.
I never said it was the best anyway, I said it was balanced. Which it is.

>>381082806
>claymore not in top tier
it's close but mlgs is better thanks to wakeup games alone
>halberd not in top tier
ds1 halberds are pretty fucking shit for pvp, it's not ds3 where they don't have awkward miss animation
>zweihander not in shit tier
it's still fairly good for backstabbing even with nearly zero stat investment
>great scythe not in top tier
of course not, what are you smoking, each attack attempt is a fucking poisestab invitation
>gold tracer not in top tier
i do agree and i would switch bss for it

>>381082461
>>381082692
>mfw lightning halberd / Nito's + GMB

No fucks given. I was immune to the Meta

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>>381083069
>mlgs better than claymore
subjective, because of int you won't get access to some weapons that you can with clay
>halberds are shit
they are, but the weapon halberd is top tier if you're playing defensively, bad for poise breaks tho
>zweihander good for bsing
if you are only bsing might as well use crystal great club + hornet ring, zwei is completely useless
>great scythe poisestab
you are never meant to use neutral r1s on great scythe lol

>>381084254
>because of int you won't get access to some weapons
you get MLGS with a giant save of offensive stats, it literally needs only 40 INT to function properly instead of a quality build, and the same 40 INT build also opens up MBH, one of the best spears in the game, and those two are virtually everything you need to win in any situation
>if you're playing defensively
if you're playing defensively with a halberd you're just a subject for aggressive pressure and poisestabbing, if you want to be as passive as possible you go with estoc turtle
>if you are only bsing might as well use crystal great club + hornet ring
they need more stats to use and weight more
zwei is good for elemental vitgouges that still want to dish out an extremely impressive backstab damage
>you are never meant to use neutral r1s on great scythe lol
i'm talking about its entire moveset, it's all unsafe

>>381073684
Awful balancing like this is why I ended up dropping R6S.

The other reason being the terrible netcode that makes what you're doing feel incredibly unresponsive.

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>>381071613
This shit basically ruined the game for me. Collect like a hundred of these fuckers and each one is a full heal??? Every other food is pointless. As long as you don't get 1-hit you're invincible once you collect some of these.

>>381069831
In og ds2 heide sword was also pretty strong. Everyone and his father except glass knight has lightning weakness

>>381069831
dks2 sotfs used to be have gargoyle bident, which was the best spear in the game and not known by many, but everyone and their mother knows it's top tier now

>>381069831
the best weapon in DaS 2 can be bought five minutes in the game the bestoc

>>381085182
You mean the longsword? Ice rapier is better than the estoc in every way besides poise, 2h estoc is great against poise.

>expect a wide variety of discussion
>its all soulsshit
every time

>>381069831
>DaS1 falchion
>good range
Hahaha How The Fuck Are DMB Falchion Builds Even Real Like Nigga Roll Backwards Haha Like Just Wait Out The Buff Hahahaha

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>>381069831
>40 DEX/STR build with +15 Halberd

I did that build just for shits and giggles and I was hoping for a fun and challenging playthrough in the first game, but out of the 6 or 7 playthroughs ive done, it was by far the easiest PVE build ive ever done. I cant really speak for PVP though, I really fucking suck at PVP so I usually lose even with meme builds.