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One more week until Altera's game is out. You ARE gonna

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One more week until Altera's game is out. You ARE gonna roll for her, right?
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If the dev didn't care enough to give his game a real artstyle then why should I care enough to play it?
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>gachashit
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>>381033723

I would if it came out in Europe as well. FUCKING SHIT FUCK
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>>381033723
What the fuck is that mashed together popsicle sword?
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>>381034619
just download the APK dumb euro
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>>381033723

>1% roll rate for 5*
>tutorial roll cannot get 5*
>tutorial roll is limited to a pool that doesn't have the top tier units

No thanks
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>>381035502
>waaah why can't I cheese the game like I did on FE heroes?!
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>>381033723
someone catch me up exactly on what i should roll for, basically anything 3*+ unless I am a crazy bitch right and want 5*?
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>>381034814

Won't I have issues if it ever comes out in Europe then?
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>>381033723
fuck off i play superior shit mobage granblue fantasy
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>>381035502
>herk
>not top tier
LOL
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>>381035617
You can get a 4* for free with your starter roll if it's like the current JP version so rolling for two 4*s at least shouldn't be that hard

>>381035621
Why would you switch to an EU version? It's not like they'll block you
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>>381035953
cool
thanks anon.
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I'll DL it but like hell I'll spend any cash on it
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>>381033723
>implying I'm not rolling for the red man
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Fuck off braindamage
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>>381036274
>i will never spend any money
>suddenly they offer lewd bathing suits for .99
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>>381035502
>tutorial roll is limited to a pool that doesn't have the top tier units
>Having a fairly high chance to get Herk, the absolute best 4* in the game

Herk will carry your ass all the game anon.
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>>381033723
I want to lick that sexy navel.

atila is waifu.
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>>381036573
good fellow
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>>381035606
>I love being fucked in the ass by shitty business practices
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Already have her on superior nip version.

Rerolling until I get Waver and I can play easy mode.
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>tfw all fan art are 500% better than in-game art
What a bummer.
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>>381037583
you have to remake an account every single time, have fun.
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>>381037676
not him, but will it be linked to Google Play or we can create an actual acc? I hope to get Hercules in my first try
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>>381037739
I have no clue all that I know is that I heard you have to make an accoutn every single time just to reroll.
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>>381037603
The fact that TM is paying Fan Artist to draw in official F/GO Anthology manga is the nice thing about the series and TM. They love the fan community.

There are at least over 20 volumes of fan comics.
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>>381037902
That is not that hard
Prologue is easy enough to blow through so that anyone can reroll 4-5 times per hour
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>>381037902
No you don't. You just delete the app and start again.
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>>381038081
Well, nwo this sounds great
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>>381033723
>"One more week until Altera's game(...)"
>G A M E
yeah sure NASU, whatever...
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is this fatass in it?
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>>381038360
He's an attractive character!
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>>381038360
Yes and his cute waifu is in it also.
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>started playing a few months ago
>want to swap to ENG version so I can read what the fuck is happening
>don't want to lose cards
HELP
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>>381038441
>attractive
disgusting
only half attractive one is the one with horns
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>>381038935
Liz is a shit

BBA Liz is best Liz
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>>381033723
She was pretty moe in Extella but I'm probably gonna save for future stuff.
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When can I get my nigga Cu?
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>>381039358
Right from the start, he is a 3* so really easy to get, he is also fucking great.
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>>381035621
They've called this global. I'm pretty sure there will never be a "EU" version. They'll just slowly roll this out to more stores.
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>>381033723
You mean nitocris's game
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>>381039358
At the start and he's superior to most 4 and 5* lancers in the game.
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>>381038441
>no Waver
>no Alexander
>no Astolfo

The only attractive character on that picture is Sieg.
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Reminder to save your quartz for Waver, Jeanne Alter and Merlin.
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>>381033723
No. I'm almost considering just taking what I roll, since the Elizabeth/Tamamo Cat/Carmilla will show up eventually. Then again, it's going to be disappointing to play the game without at least one character I'm interested in.

The idea of just picking your servant rather than the random summon does sound nice, though.

>>381035502
After that roll, you go through a tutorial and can earn enough quartz to do a regular summon, just like FEH. If you insist on doing things that way.

>>381035617
How good a character is isn't related to star ratings like it is in FEH. You can have 3* servants which are great. Heck, Herc is one of the best ones, and he's 4* and in the starting summoning pool.
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>>381041080
>not rerolling until you get Waver+Herc

What the fuck are you even doing?
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>>381041247
Rerolling for Herk should be mandatory, and for the rest you either push your luck to get Waver or you save your quartz for a rate up.
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>>381041080
I'll have to sacrifice some quartz along the way.
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I'm just gonna save quartz until Astolfo comes out.
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>all these people who can't play the game without Waver
lol
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>>381041437
Shit taste.
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>>381033723
For Altera? Not really

I'm just aiming for Martha to start out.
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everyons is saying to get waver but I thought only servants were characters. do you get masters too?
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>>381041749
FGO is making masters into servants by shoving heroic characters souls into their bodies.
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>>381041749
He's possessed or something
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>>381041749
Waver is a demi Servant, like Rin. He host the spirit of a Servant inside his body.
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>>381041749
Taiga is in it as a servant, as well.
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How well does it play on bluestacks? I try to just use my phone as a phone or gps.
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What is the actual gameplay for this game? Is it just pressing a single button over and over with no real choice to make? Cause that's usually how these "collect cute girls" phone games turn out.
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>>381033723
No, going for Rider's raccoon eyebrow ass.
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>>381037913
Didn't Prisma Ilya start as a doujin, too?
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>>381033723
I'm still thinking, if it's as awful as FGO launch I'm going to stick with the JP version, I already have Jeanne Alter there, and I probably won't get her here.
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>>381041797
>>381041861
but you can't get normal ones like kotomine or shinji?
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>>381042084
This. Do you actually do anything?
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>>381042475
Well its based on Nanoha, and Nanoha was originally just the little sister of the MC in a porn vn like Illya.
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>>381042084
>>381042668
Combat requires agency as you select what moves your team uses, and in between fights are VN segments with limited choices in the dialogue.

It's still just dumb gatcha mobage shit though.

>>381042475
F/SN is a fucking doujin lad.
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>>381042601
IIRC, you don't get them as servants
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>>381041986
No, it doesn't play on a rooted phone either. At least, that's what I've last heard on the issue.

>>381042084
>What is the actual gameplay for this game?
You have three characters. Each character has a set of five cards which determine their attacks. You get five (out of the total potential 15) and play three of them. You get a bonus attack for using three for the same character.

You might get bonuses for using three of the same attack type, as well, although I'm not sure about that.

Characters also have "Noble Phantasms", with are powerful super attacks and show up as an additional card you can select. Stringing together multiple Noble Phantasms for two or three characters gives an additional benefit for the following characters: more damage, and generally more status effects.

There's also some weakness/strengths elements with the different classes, where one takes double damage from one class but takes half damage from another. Berserkers are odd in that they take double damage from everything, and deal extra damage to everything.

Other than that, combat is a fairly standard RPG system: pick your actions, your characters attack, the enemy attacks, back to your turn. Outside that is the standard mobage gameplay: lots of locations, pick the one to fight through, AP limiting how quickly you can play through the game, XP for units, gather quartz to spend for new characters. About the biggest difference there is that the game has a lot of materials to collect: you need materials for leveling up skills, and for upgrading the stage of your servant.
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>>381035502
I know you're used to playing bottom of the barrel trash that forces you to obtain 5*s, but FGO is *slightly* less trash in that you can just use your favourites.
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So I should roll for waver with my free gems right?
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What is the hottest servant?
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>>381033723
Thats not Umbral Star
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>>381041986
Emulation was banned
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>>381043254
Jeanne.
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>>381043254
Tamamo at the beach
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I just hope I can play it on an emulator. My phone sucks.
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>>381043254
Jeanne at the stake.
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>>381043604
heh
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wait so there's no browser version like granblue? I'm not a normie so I don't even have a phone.
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>>381042791
>F/SN is a fucking doujin lad.

What? No its not, its a VN. Doujins are specifically fan works based on/in a series or franchise. They're basically (usually) better fan fiction
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>>381044157
>Not having a phone
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>>381044236
Nah that's not what 同人誌 means, thanks for playing though.
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>>381033723
Can soneone explain to me what the fate/stay series is and how it became so big. I thought it was just a porn game?
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I heard this game is P2W in that the whale will always be stronger than the non-whale. Something about how getting dupes to level up your NP increases you stats/skills tenfold?

If so that really fucking sucks and I might not pick this up.
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>>381044236
>Dōjin (同人? dōjin), often romanized as doujin, is a general Japanese term for a group of people or friends who share an interest, activity, hobbies, or achievement. The word is sometimes translated into English as clique, fandom, coterie, society, or circle (e.g., a "sewing circle").
>In Japan, the term is used to refer to amateur self-published works, including manga, novels, fan guides, art collections, music and video games. Some professional artists participate as a way to publish material outside the regular publishing industry.

Feel free to stop posting anytime.
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>>381044704
>I heard this game is P2W in that the whale will always be stronger than the non-whale. Something about how getting dupes to level up your NP increases you stats/skills tenfold?

All lies
You can win everything with any combinations of 1-5* servants.

Having higher stars are interesting but the game is set up so anyone can win easy
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>>381044637
The principal framework for summoning legendary heroes is solid, then you just add waifus and a few more variations to the original story/HGW and bam, you can milk it as long as you got heroes.
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>>381044704
doesnt matter cause there is no pvp in the first place, there's nothing to win.
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>>381044862
That doesn't answer my qurstion at all anon
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>>381044704
You don't compete with whales and you don't need to whale to clear the content.
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>>381043254
Shuten Douji.

>>381044637
It's an eroge (porn game) made by Type-Moon, who also made Tsukihime and Kara no Kyoukai.

It's mostly praised for its interesting setting, strong character interactions and good writing.

>>381044704
You can get anything someone who pays money can get, albeit slower and with a shittier frequency.
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>>381038879
Sell that account
Give the money to the english version
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>>381045106
who is this semen demon
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>>381044995
IT started out as a porn game but the fundamental rules of the universe and the system of summoning legendary heroes could keep shitting out things people liked. It just got wildly popular with multiple groups of people like waifufags or powerlevelfags.
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>>381045106
>It's an eroge (porn game)

Not an eroge, it's a VN. Eroge have gameplay.
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Is prisma illya in this shit?
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>>381045210
>Eroges have gameplay
Not all of them. Deciding whether or not you want to cum inside or outside isn't gameplay.
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>>381043254
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>>381038879
What's the drop rate on 5*? All of my favourite servants look to be 5*, but I don't have a lot of money to spend either.
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>>381045106
>It's mostly praised for its interesting setting, strong character interactions and good writing.
You forgot "funny broken translation"
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>first hear about the game
>Hahaha, full Tamamo team!
>best game ever
>now
>spending my time looking through information about the game
>thinking that Babbage, Edison, Vlad, Carmilla, and some others might end up more interesting to play
>they're mostly common and not the limited rare waifubait that everyone else hunts down
What's this, I'm starting to actually get interested in the game?

>>381044704
>whale will always be stronger than the non-whale
Not really. Stats are pretty much separate from the star rank, and so you have 3* and 4* servants which are stronger than 5*. Heck, 3* is generally considered better simply because you can summon so many more of them, making a full power NP and the skill/upgrades materials far more available.

Most of the whaling comes from the waifubait in the limited events.

Still, you have heard correctly. You want 5(?) copies of a servant to hit full power on the NP: one as your "base" and four more to sacrifice to them, to increase the NP to full power. Servants also require materials to ascend and to level up their skills, and that's where the gacha really goes to work: you can pull a rare, but it end up being a "rare material", meaning that half the time, you servant summoning is just going to get you random materials rather than servants you'd want to use. You can do 10-batch summons which guarantees at least one servant, and at least one 4*-5* pull, but that's the only guarantee you'll get.
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>>381045153
Shuten Douji.

>>381045210
Can you stop posting yet? Eroge literally means erotic game.
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>>381045434
1%
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>>381045534

Yes and GAMES have GAMEplay
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Is there any way to get this running on a PC? I hate playing shit on my phone.
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>>381045434
You are so fucked
You need to put money in the game to get what you want
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>>381045534
Praise Raita for designing her.
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>>381045627

Should be. Pokemon go could run off pc with the servers and all. I guess we gotta see if it's popular enough first
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>>381045247
there was a prisma collab that gave kuro as a free 4* welfare and illya was a summonable 5* but I dont know if the US version will have the said collab events
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>>381045515
>>381045547
>you can pull a rare, but it end up being a "rare material", meaning that half the time, you servant summoning is just going to get you random materials rather than servants you'd want to use.
So not only do I only have a 1% chance for a 5* servant, that's competing with the craft essences for the gacha pool? Holy fuck that's ridiculous. Is it at least cheap to roll the gacha? Or is it the standard $1.50 per roll kinda deal?
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>>381045434
>All of my favourite servants look to be 5*
Why do you want all the Saberfaces? You are literally the audience that they are trying to milk.
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>>381045734
>Hate Raita's art for Raikou and Shuten
>Fan art of them makes me want to like them
Goddamn it, I hate the official chink eyes
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>>381045613
Don't worry fag, I'll keep you company until it's bedtime.
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>>381044495
that's what I said, normie. I have no one to call and I can order pizza online.
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>>381045808
Not quite. The chart has the full breakdown. There is a 5% chance of pulling a 5*, but that means a 1% chance for a 5* servant and a 4% chance for a 5* material.

3*, as noted, are a lot more generous. 40% for a 3* servant and 40% for a 3* material, so they are much easier to complete.

4* is probably going to be hell, given that they are almost as rare as 5* servants.
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>>381045869
Literally nothing wrong with official art.
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>>381043254
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>>381045808
dw would go bankrupt if the rates were higher please understand.
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>>381045862
I want the Sakurafaces.
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>>381044807
Well shit, learn something new everyday
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The only 5* I want are Best Saberface, Genki Monk, Shishou, and not-Musashi
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>>381045808
Don't overthink this.
There is no over complicated bullshit to this game.
Hell don't talk shit on 5* CE as they typically can be even worth rolling just for those.

>Is it at least cheap to roll the gacha?
The nice thing about this game it is extremly generous with quartz and providing ways to roll

For Nip F/GO if you have been saving tickets for the last two month you should have over 50 tickets so you have 50 rolls saved up.
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I should know better than to play games like this but I probably will anyway.
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>>381046154
then only 1 of them is 5* which is melt. Passionlip is a 4* and B.B is a welfare servant you get for free if you play the event
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>>381046212
>Best Saberface
so Nero Bride
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>>381046154
Thankfully, the one I really want is free. That is if the US version even gets that far.
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>>381046154
BB was handed out for free during her event where she debuted. Plus, that was quite some time into the game's lifecycle. You can just stock up on your quartz in order to summon all three, when they make an appearance.

You'll be playing without Sakura for a long time, though.
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>>381046115
>heart puplis
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>>381046154
>I want the Sakurafaces.
Speaking from first hand experience.
That is hell you are walking into

I somehow lucked my ass into getting both Melt and Passion with 2 10 rolls. I now have over 1500 quartz saved just for Sakura Parvati.
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>>381046521
I pray Parvati is as boner-inducing as Ishtar.
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>>381046212
>>381046315
That's a weird way to spell Jeanne Alter.
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>>381033951
What does this even mean
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>>381046701
>>381046315
Cake is best looking. Don't care for stats.
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>cant emulate it

Well this sucks
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>>381046521
The only limited servants I am really interested in are Beach Tamamo and the two Halloween Elizabeth. How screwed am I if I try for 5 copies of each, to max out that NP power?
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>>381038360
It's your fault he's a fatass. You fucked up the summoning.

No, really, turns out he's not lying. Cleopatra said he's supposed to be /fit/ as fuck and his artist came out with what Caesar is supposed to look like. You really did fuck it up.
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>>381046805
Jeanne Alter has the best story though, who cares about stats?
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>>381046752
I guess he isn't a fan of how there isn't a single artist for every piece of art in the game.
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>>381046913
I honestly never bothered looking into the edgy alter versions
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>>381037913
If they loved the community they'd stop making this shit game and go back to what they used to do
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>>381046957
Technically for one day of the year, there is; April Fools.

God bless Riyo.
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>>381046908
Rolling for NP2+ on 5*s is almost never worth it for how much you have to spend or lucky you have to get.

If it happens great but I don't recommend going for it
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>>381045802

It better

Only fate I give a shit about
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>>381047093
>Hurr if they loved the community they'd stop trying to make money durrrr
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So clearly with these terrible rolls, there has to be something you can do with the servants you don't want than just throwing them away.
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>>381047042
>Jeanne Alter
>Edgelord

Even when she is the antagonist she is a try hard edgelord and it only becomes more obvious the more you see her. If anything she is more pissed with how she was treated/how her vanilla version just accepts it. There is a reason Vanilla views her as a little sister.
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>>381046908

Halloween and Brave liz are free event servants, they just require to put in the effort and time to do the event and get the 5 copies and special items to ascend them

as for Summer Tamamo... I put money for the first time (2 of the bigger packs) after not getting her with my saved free quartz and still didn't get a copy, it can get pretty bad to get limited servants to NP5 without extreme luck or enough money
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>>381047375
Meme teams
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>>381047517
How much money approximately is needed for rerolls?
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>>381047375
They usually wind up giving bonuses during events so they're great for a back line.
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>>381047669
Rerolling is free

You just lose all your progress if you do it since it involves clearing your app data
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>>381047375
You can merge them to increase NP power.

Also, you can discard them for some items. 5* servants can be discarded for an item which, if you have 10 of them, will allow you to summon a specific 5* of your choice. (Limited event servants aren't included in that, though.) 4* and 3* give you something else, although I don't recall what it was.
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>>381047669
Rerolling is free

If you are ever going to buy quartz you typically tell people to go for the 160 pack which is about $70ish. The thing is that you will want to save 30 of them as eventually a paid Gacha will come out in which you will need paid quartz to roll it. You get a guaranteed 5* in it.
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>>381047517
>Halloween and Brave liz are free event servants, they just require to put in the effort and time to do the event and get the 5 copies and special items to ascend them
Excellent. That's great news, since everyone else I'm interested in (outside Summer Tamamo) is apparently added to the summoning pool, meaning I could spend as much time as I'd like picking them up.
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>>381047729
>>381047863
Oh woops, yeah I meant how much quartz cost and how much quartz is needed for a roll.
>$70 off the bat
Christ
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>>381047786
Burning 3* gives mana prisms which can be used to purchase stuff like summoning tickets, exp cards and fous. There are better ways of obtaining prisms though so dont burn your 3* just for them.
4* gives you rare prisms which can purchase stuff you missed from a previous event
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>>381047786
nah the saint graphs shit you get it AFTER rolling servants who already surpassed the NP lvl 5 so if you wanna 10 graphs you have to roll the same 5* servant 15 times
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>>381048118
$70 is for the 140 pack

A normal 10 roll is like $23
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>>381048118
Like I said
That is the highest priced back but technically the best deal, also every year there are two guranteed 5* Gacha so as long as you have 30 left over from when you bought the pack you can do it without buying more. The game always uses Free Quartz before touching your paid ones.

Just don't be a whale and throw money at every fucking Gacha.
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>>381047969
Summer Tamamo is a limited 5*, she will only be available during the summer event.
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>>381048324
>>381048305
So any of the 5* guaranteed per roll right? Does that include event onlys too? I only want four particular 5*
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>>381048492
Anon I...
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>>381048305
>>381048118

You guys seriously buying into this pay freeium shit?
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>>381048492
Only twice per year
-New Years
-Anniversary of the game

Every other Gacha is pure random
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>>381048678
Depends how much quartz I want to hoard with what rolls I get.
>>381048625
DON'T YOU MAKE THAT FACE AT ME REDMAN
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So if I want to get a specific servant it's best to save up money and roll for them? 1% doesn't sound too good though meaning on average 100 rolls gets you a 5*. How much free rolls do you get per month? Most other games it's about 10, which means you need to play around a year to get a "decent" chance to get the unit you want without paying money at 1% rate.
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>>381047729
Can you just clear your app data to reroll or do you have to uninstall and reinstall the app to reroll?
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question
do mobages like this have actual decent stories and waifu routes or is it basically just gambling for nerds
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>>381048678
It's a waste of money. Every mobage I play I always go free only mode and have a bunch of rare characters. Haven't played this one yet since I'm waiting for the EN version but I assume it's gonna be the same.
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>>381048492
Guaranteed 5* doesn't include time limited specific units by the way. There's a good chance you'll just get trash you don't want there too.
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>>381048965
Clearing app data works

>>381048981
Story is good after London before then it's only passable
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>>381048981
You gamble for your waifu.
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>>381049051
Then I probably won't do so much with those since I have nearly all the time in the world for the two 5* I want in regular rolls and two to hoard up for in limited events.
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>>381049113
that sounds terrible
do they have personal stories

>>381049073
i've never played mobages really, so i know nothing about the Fate series, is this a decent way to get in when it comes out?
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>>381049009
Yell you can do just fine with 3* characters anyways.
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>>381039669
Me an my buddies actually call him "The man, the myth, the legend", because he's always the last to survive tough battles and still go for two more turns.
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>>381045627

I think Memu works with it currently
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>>381043254
PURE SEX
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>>381049460
If you can't be assed to read the VN or at least watch the Unlimited Blade Works anime at minimum, it's ok
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>>381049553
Yeah he's saved me so many times especially during the nero event when my servants werent that good.
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>>381043254
Edison, especially with him looking good in spandex
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>>381046521
>check pic
>mooncancer
what?
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>want to play
>have old galaxy sIII
>likely not good enough
>new phones are like buying a new console or higher

guess i won't be playing
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>>381049963
look at all this shit taste
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Fate newfag here, I just want to know if I'll be able to get his semen demon at launch
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>>381050521
BB's class as she essentially is that for CCC.

Strong against avengers, weak against rulers
>Proceeds to get the shit beat out of her by Muscle Saint
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>>381050521
CCC things
>>381050761
>Sticc at launch
No. Chances are, the girls you want are always past a few events so be patient.
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>>381050761
You have to clear london first, which will not be in the launch.
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>>381050761
Nope.
Even when she is added the odds of getting her are crazy low outside of her rate up
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>>381050521
The plot of Fate/Extra CCC is that BB, one of the Sakura AIs, found or encountered a bug in the Moon Cell's code and so was able to hack the Moon Cell. As such, her servant class is called "Moon Cancer" instead of a regular class, due to BB acting against the Moon Cell and basically exploiting the bug in its programming.

And if you are curious, "Alter Ego" is basically a split personality from another character, into their own class. No, I'm not sure how that is any different from the Alters or any of the other variations. On the other hand, all the Alter Egos would be hard to classify anyways - they're the two BB clones and Kiara.
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Is this going to get eng dubs like fe Heroes? If so. Fuck that shit
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>>381051042
Jap dub only.
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>>381051042
>Fate
>english dub
No. They didn't dub Fate/Extra, they didn't dub Fate/Extella. They certainly aren't going to bother dubbing all of Fate/Grand Order. Unlike Nintendo and Fire Emblem, they know full well that they aren't hunting for the norm audience with this one.
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How many saber alter there are in the game? Can you get them at launch? Asking for the dog of my friend.
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>>381051042
God no
Way too much work. Nothing outside of anime fate will ever get dubbed
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>>381050853
>>381050893
>>381050914
Thank you friends, I'll still get it so I guess I'll just save up on whatever the hell this game uses to roll.
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Fate is ruined but I'm still going to play this because I'm a fucking idiot.
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>>381050893
Why do always see this upside down version?
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For real though, which unit should I be rerolling for that will be future proof?
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>>381051438
Waver because he makes the game easy mode as seen here
>>381051549
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>>381051549
This is me but with Merlin. He's bond 8 now but im gonna have him work overtime when he's maxed
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>>381051438
left side is available from tutorial roll. Right side you have a 1% shot with the quartz they are giving out from the facebook event.
All scores are updated as of the current version will all interludes and strengthening quests done.
Add 5.0 to the score of your waifu/husbando if they are on the list but you can only have one of them
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I wanna go back to a time when Type Moon was the face of the indie Jap scene.
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>play FGO
>crash after a few turns
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>>381051549


>>381051873
bait/10 see me after class
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>>381033723
Naw, I'll be saving my quartz for someone else.
If I need a Saber, I'll just use Fergus or maybe Caesar.
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>>381051207
>the game literally has a "Saberface" trait
As for your question:

>Artoria Pendragon (Alter) [Saber], unlocked by a story event, 4*
>Artoria Pendragon (Alter Lancer), unlocked by a story event, 4*
>Jeanne d'Arc (Alter) (Santa Lily) [Lancer], limited time event, 4*
>Artoria Pendragon (Santa Alter) [Rider], limited time event, 4*
>Mysterious Heroine X (Alter) [Berserker], limited time event, 5*
>Jeanne d'Arc (Alter) [Avenger], limited time event, 5*
I think that's all of them.
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>>381051929

No. The success of the Fate/Zero anime clouded Nasu's vision.
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>>381035606
>waaah why can't I play this mobage like 99% of them
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>>381051929
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>>381051961
>I have to roll for the saberface I want most
Goddamn it all
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>>381051961

Thanks.
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>>381052082
Too bad she won't be out until mid-late 2018 at the rate of the game.
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>>381052174
I'll at least have some quartz saved up
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>>381051438
I've not played, but from what I've heard:

Herc, good from the start and nearly unkillable when fully buffed. He's in the starting summons pool, too.

Cu Chulainn [Lancer], he's one of the best 3* and can be powered up easily as a result.

Zhuge Liang (Lord El-Melloi II) [Caster], 5*, apparently one of the most broken characters in the game.

Merlin [Caster], 5* limited, apparently more broken than Zhuge Liang.
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>>381052082
Hey, at least she gets added to the pool. Pity those poor fools who are trying to pick up both of the Santa Alters during the Christmas event, along with those 5* limited event ones.
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>>381051438
Waver, Saber Alter and Herc are the best launch servants that are conceivable to re-roll for

Re-rolling for Saber Alter is a pain in the ass compared to anyone else but still technically doable if you can sit through clearing the prologue every time
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>>381052317
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>>381051549
If Emiya was my mom, things sure would be different.
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>>381033723
Are there lewd Kuros in this game?
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>>381052591
He is the best girl and for the longest time had the biggest bust in Fate
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>>381051961

I cant believe Takeuchi's infatuation with Hisui and eventually lead to a franchise thats nothing but making copies of her.
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>>381052485
I wouldn't mind the loli one I guess
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>>381052638
Yes. She was a welfare for a Prisma colab.
I have no idea if she will even show up in english F/GO.
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>>381052717
I hope I can roll Nito with the ever so slightly """""higher""""""" percentages.
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>>381052821
prisma illya has an english dub so i don't see why it wouldn't
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When can I get my girl Shiki?
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>>381033723
why is this game being hyped up? what's so special about it?
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>>381052887
Why do people keep saying they are going to boost the rates?
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>>381053075
We're just masochists hyping ourselves up for a painful and costly experience for pretty girls.

With some story telling in the middle.
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>>381053075
TM and the fact it is making a insane amount of money.
It is not even funny how much money Sony is making from this as they have to tell investors this game alone is one of their major profit sectors.
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>>381053075
Its huge in Japan but nobody knows what Fate is in the west so it will shutdown in a month.
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>>381053075
Nasu writing.

Honestly, nothing else stands out as exceptional beyond that. Sure, the combat is interesting and making the 3* servants useful is welcome, but you aren't likely to pick up a mobage just for that.
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How much lewdness is there and will it be censored in the US version
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>>381053187

And yet Sony couldnt even be bothered to make an actual good game about the Nasuverse.
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>>381053280
Of course it will. Every localized mobage gets censored here.
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>>381053090
>Why do people keep saying they are going to boost the rates?
F/GO runs "events" which just star a specific character getting an increased drop rate, so if you want a specific servant rather than just any 5*, then those events are the best time to get them.

That only applies to servants in the general pool, of course. Limited event servants are only available when they make their appearance, so you have to grab them then. (Sometimes, other servants will have increased drop rates during such events as well.)
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Ok but when will my emperor be in and how retarded is it going to be to get her?
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>>381053223

>implying the series didnt become even more normiebait after the ufotable anime

If we were talking about mid-late 2000s Type Moon I would have agreed with you.
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>>381053508
>>381051726
Not the hardest thing in the world
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Might give this garbage a go, even though I hate gachashit and fate in general (only when le ginger hero is involved, red man is alright though). How soon can I get my nigga Sieg in this game?
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>>381053306
TM holds the major licenses
.
Sony has to play ball with them with how they want things to go with the games and who will write them which Sony is fine with considering the money being made speaks louder than anything they could suggest.
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Who are you going to reroll for out of the starter gacha?
I want a Redman, but Herc would be nice as well.
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I don't care about the gameplay, but I want to collect waifus. Does this game give you the ability to earn more characters without paying?
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>>381053508
I think she's available at launch. You just need to complete Septem to unlock her
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>>381053606
Any of the easymodes servants or a Martha
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>>381033723
What kind of gachishit game is this? I've tried at least a dozen anime ones over the past several months and the only ones to keep my interest were the Bleach and Naruto ones though there isn't a damn thing to do in the former besides go through a character grind loop, and the latter is boring as fuck as soon as you get 2 specific characters.
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>>381053606
Those 2 since I dont have them in JP. Maybe Sieg for the memes
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>>381053508
Once the Septem event becomes available, you can complete that and she will be part of the summoning pool. She's a 4*.

Nero Bride is a 5* limited to certain events. Looks like she was part of the Valentines event, along with the Fate/Extra CCC event and a Nero-specific event. So you'll have a few chances to grab her, too.

Both are Sabers, so no fancy team compositions for her.
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>>381053508
She is one of the first rate-up events, just wait for that if you want to roll her.

You can try to roll her after Septem but there's no point in doing so when she goes on rate-up very early on into the game's lifespan. Just wait for her event when she's on rate-up


Nero Bride comes out on Valentines day

>>381053594
If you mean Siegfried he's a launch servant and you can get him from the tutorial roll as one of the free 4*s
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has anyone else been playing the yuuki yuna game? its pretty fun desu
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>>381053820
>Maybe Sieg for the memes
As someone with an NP2 Sieg, it's not worth it.
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>>381052989

>Ryougi gets to have two characters in the game
>meanwhile Arcueid, the "other" TM girl, has been completely forgetten
>not even a Nanaya or Tohno Shiki

Fuck this timeline.
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>>381053606
Tamamo Cat or Elizabeth

>>381053795
>What kind of gachishit game is this?
One with a story. Also, it coming out on the 25th.
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>>381052921
Naturalton got me into Fate just because the feet are too good
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What servants are available at the start?
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SEAfag here. How long until the apk is up on apkcure?
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>>381053927
Is he shit or something? Not the guy you replied to, just some one who was going for Sieg.
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>>381054084
>mfw he had a meltdown when people were commenting in english
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>>381054546
He's low tier but you can clear everything in F/GO with your favorites so don't worry about it
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>>381054572
Does he hate gaijins?
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>>381054348
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/servant_all.php#nav
Sort them by ID and I would guess up to Jeanne.
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>>381054572
Yeah he's lost it. He blocked me on twitter
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>>381054348
>>381051726
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>>381051174
>They certainly aren't going to bother dubbing all of Fate/Grand Order.
First Order is getting a dub.
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So is this 100% unable to be emulated? I've been enjoying FEH because I can get it going on NOX but I'd love to try this.
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>>381054572
why?
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Playing this game is literally suffering. Everytime I spend dosh to get a waifu I want a new one is released. Its a never ending cycle of gacha hell.
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>>381053885
Looks like a Chain Chronicle clone.
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>>381054893
>grailed Martha and Helena
Top tier taste anon, post friend code if you have spots available.
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>>381054893
>Got tamamo lancer and caster marie with single memes
>no martha
Im definitely getting her this summer
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>>381054893
>a waifu
Kill yourself haremshitter
>>381055039
You too.
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>>381054546
His gimmick is being an anti-dragon, but there are very few dragons that he has class advantage against, and his ATK and NP damage numbers are really low.
You can mitigate this by having St. George in your party, because his NP gives foes the dragon trait, but it''s still sub-optimal.
But don't let that stop you from going for him. The game is easy enough that anyone is viable if you level their skills enough and make a party to support them.
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>>381055121
Edgy
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>>381054893
I hope I can roll Musashi and Scathach
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How tall is that girl exactly
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>>381054893
>having this many waifus
Stop being such a whore, Anon.
I am honestly struggling to find even an Archer or Rider which interests me.
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Been playing the Jap version since 2015 before Okeanos came out.
For this, I'll just level up the 1*/2* servants I get and use them for more variety instead of the 4*/5* units I always have.
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>>381052357
In general, for those who don't know, the gimmicks in depth are like this:
>Herc, who has a ton of Buster cards and good NP already, also has a flat % damage increase for THREE turns skill + 1 turn complete evasion + a 5 turn lasting revive that works once and has a low cooldown. His max bond also revives him 3 times alone
>Zhuge Liang, who can build up his NP super fast as a caster, and each skill buffs your party while giving good NP increases for 50%+ altogether with all 3 (for one person). His NP also does a crapload of debuffs and can flat out stun an enemy turn away, AND drain their NP so spamming it is great
>Merlin, who builds just as fast as Waver, but his NP does the inverse and gives you set heals + NP gain + stars for the party per turn (and healing is difficult to come by). His skills also damage buff the party WITH flat NP gain, straight up 1 turn invincibility for everybody, and hugely increases damage for 1 servant for a turn.
Using your a M+W or M+M/W+W is endless buffs/debuffs unless you get nuked.
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>>381054893
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDqP7kcr-sc
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>>381055701
160cm.
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I don't know shit about the fate franchise (only watched Fate Zero but I don't even think that counts) but I'm checking this shit out just because of that uncensored beach video that makes my dick rock hard. You know which one.
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>>381055869
Really? Heard she was a giantess
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>>381055826
>Teach at 90
>REGEND at 100
You are a cool dude.
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>>381033723
Do I gave to register or some shit to get the free starter items?

Dokkan Battle has me by the balls already so this game will be bad for me.
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>>381055919
That event won't be out for at least another year. So prepare your quartz.
>>381055951
Different game.
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>>381055919
I don't actually
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>>381055951
That happens in Extella, not GO
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What waifu gives the best paizuri?
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>>381056049
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/5655382
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Medb is the most beautiful servant in the game and anyone who says otherwise is a certified faggot
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>>381055996
Teach would be at 100 if I had more grails. I think when I get more, I'll actually focus on doing Leonidas since he's really fun.
https://youtu.be/OfPwfo15DbQ
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>>381056227
She's also the biggest slut

>mfw She's Rider class because she's good at riding men
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>>381054572
Is that why he stopped posting shit?
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>>381056317
>She's also the biggest slut
Not anymore.
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>>381055826
Nice grailed servants and leveled skills. Mind sharing your friend code with me?
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>>381056684
No thanks whale.
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>>381055402
So how does one get milf seiba in this shit?
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>>381056523
DELET THIS
KIARA IS THE PUREST
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>>381056813
>Heaven's Hole.
>purest
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>>381056793
Roll for her during her event
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>>381055826
That Saber is perfection
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>>381056271
This is going to be aggravating. I'm sure there are more than one team I'd like to try out, but there are nowhere enough grails to max out more than one team. Heck, there aren't even enough grails released to Lv.100 a team of 4* characters.
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>>381056684
389,787,858
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>>381033723
Why should I play this mobile shit? Honest question
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Whose going to be in the initial gacha?
Please tell me they arent so stupid as to start the game from how it launched in JPland
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>>381057007
And when is that?
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should I play on my phone or tablet?

OR have 1 account each device?

I still don't know what device I should play on desu
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>>381056758
>4 5*
>whale
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>>381057203
Camelot so we've got a while to hoard quartz until then.
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>>381057190
Assumptions are that they are going with the QoL improvements already implemented, so you'll have the servant selection you do in the current JP one.

I've heard that if they hit enough likes on Facebook, they might be letting people choose when they sign up. I'd assume that means choosing the starting 4* servant, but don't know exactly what's going on there.
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>>381057190
>>381051726
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>>381056138
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>>381057015
Okita is cute.
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>>381050793
muscle saint?
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Question. Does this game have event cg like the VNs?
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>>381057487
>>381057491
God damn NAfags are fucked.

The only thing making it playable is all the constant fuckups and free quartz.
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>>381056227
Cuck
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>>381058226
Saint Martha in her swimsuit. She's a Ruler class instead of Rider. She also has three Buster cards and a Buster NP that basically turns her into Dio.
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>>381047331
He's right you fuck, the "community" they're feeding now is largely not even FSN fans, they just got into Fate because waifufagging mobile gachashit. It's a totally different audience, and it gives them no reason to make quality products or put effort into anything ever again.
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>>381058961

Most of those fucks probably just piggybacked after they saw how edgy Fate/Zero was.
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>>381057178
Not the guy who asked, but I sent you a request as well.
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>no decent RPG by Atlus
>no Kara no Kyoukai/Tsukihime hack and slash game by Platinum
>the last "good" Fate game we had was a PS2 fighting game
>No further plans to bother making VNs in the foreseeable future

Jesus Christ, Nasu. You probably have enough money to fund all these from all the FGO gachabucks.
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>>381060251
And he won't because FGO will probably make more money than all of those combined.
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>Mahoyo will never be finished because Nasu is getting the sweet mobabux
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>best fate girl isn't in the game
why should I even care about this?
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>>381060251
>hack and slash game by Platinum
I want this meme to die
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>>381060585

Name a better company who can develop a hack and slash game today. Can't say Capcom because Capcom is fucking dead.

Imagine using Ryougi or Tohno's Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, but it somewhat works similar to Raiden's Zandatsu/Blade Mode. It would be sick as fuck.
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This is London's most heinous murderer.
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>>381060846

And here we have is the point where Fate completely jumped the shark. Apocrypha was truly the beginning of the end. Fate/Extra and its fanfic tier Servant list was only the Harbinger.
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>>381035502
>tutorial roll is limited to a pool that doesn't have the top tier units
Herk is in the tutorial. Still is the best Berserker to this date if you get his bond CE. Why the fuck you even want the *5 when the only one good is Waver?
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Cute murderer.
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>>381036573
This right here.
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>>381060251
He did talk about the Tsukihime remake VN recently to reassure fans, but yeah... modern Type-Moon a fucking shit.

Fuck the gacha mobage market for enabling this kind of thing, and possibly ruining all the Nasuverse's potential if they just feel like continuing to be lazy.
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>>381061638

I just hate that everything now just revolves around Servants simply because the idea of behind is just so easy to exploit, especially by today's new "rules" that almost fucking anyone could be a servant.
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So whats the gameplay on this

RPG, light tactics/strategy or one of those shitty match 3 gatchas
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>>381033723
I want this on PC. Not fond of playing VN games on mobile,even if japan loves their mobile stuff.
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>>381061961
You sound entitled.
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>>381061638
It's a double edged sword, honestly. Most anyone who can read moon will tell you the latter half of GO's story is the best shit Nasu's ever written and the most hyped he's been about work in literally years. The GO team asked for a couple pages of outline for Babylon, he sent them a 1000+ page document for it and sent DW into full panic mode because they thought reading all that shit would push them past the deadline.

It's just in a fucking mobage.
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>>381047453
>Even when she is the antagonist she is a try hard edgelord
Did you forget she fucking killed and razed thousand of people in France, including innocent townspeople? She was turned into a garbage tsundere joke when she was a serious and legitimate boss.
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>>381060846
SF had the better Jack. A true bro.
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>>381058253
For the most recent events/orders yes

early on, no
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>>381061961

Just emulate it using Bluestacks. I was playing jFGO on it a few years ago.
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This is a Chinese monk.
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>>381033723
I have never played a Fate game in my 11 fucking years here. Is FSN really worth playing before getting into this? Can someone direct me towards a link for the VN if it is?
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>>381033723
>gacha
You know an IP is dead when they lower themselves to that shit.
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>>381062349
check the new nyaa torrents
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>>381062037

See, that's the problem. Unless we have reached an age where mobile games have completely replaced handhelds and have now become legitimate games instead of being glorified gambling sims, no mobage dev team has the time to fucking churn out this kind of content.
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>>381062431
Fate/Grand Order makes enough money in a single month to rival many global economies

and thats just the jap version
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>>381062431

Literally saving Sony
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>>381062585

And yearly Fifa games can sell more units than entire franchises could sell in their entire 10+ year lifespan.

What's your point? That's it's okay if Japs do it?
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>>381062349
it's ok. check nyaa and then go get the realta nua patch from beast's lair.
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>>381062762
You don't know what the word "dead" means.
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>>381062874
She's a Pharaoh
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>>381062843

Not him, but modern Fate in no way resembles the Fate that came out in 2006, so yes, it's "dead".

Enjoy having a genderbent Hitler as a servant in the coming years for more easy moonbucks.
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So how much does F/GO make anyways? Any figures?
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>>381061808
That's my biggest problem besides the self-insert protag.

There's so much cool shit to be explored and different factions in the Nasuverse. The Master/Servant relationships are also easily one of the most interesting aspect of every HGW so far.
Instead, they decide to make every fucking major character in the game a Servant, because they're much more easily marketable and mass produced. Cheap assholes.
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>>381062493
>>381062827
Alright, thanks.
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>>381063096

Especially made worse that today, it's reduced to a fucking harem. Master/Servant relationships in the past were emotional because it was a personal relationship between two characters. But when it's now about every fucking servant wanting to suck your dick, all of that tension is lost.
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>>381061883
For start, Rock Scissor Paper, with some Servants or enemies sort into classes which are weak and strong (or neutral) to another class. Saber is weak to Archer but strong against Archer, Archer is weak to Lancer but strong against Saber, Lancer is weak to Saber but strong against Archer. Rider trumps Caster but is weak to Assassin, so on. Berserker can deal more damage to all classes minus Shielder (only Shielder is Mashu so far) but all classes also deal more to them so are like glass cannons. Then there are special classes: playable are Ruler, Mooncancer (just one, a welfare, BB) and Avenger, which have their own triangle; plus Alter Ego which is strong against Calvary classes (Rider, Assassin, Caster) but makes reduce damage to Knight classes.
An enemy Class that isn't playable is Beast, which depends on which number of Beast have different properties.
Mind you there are boss battles where the enemy has a particular gimmick like "doesn't take damage of Servants with a particular aligment (Evil, Good Neutral)" or so on. But in the beginning that's not a problem, it's more advanced chapters you start getting mixed waves which or gimmicks that require you to strategize your battles a bit more and not simply smash with an AoE Berserker: sorting your Mystic Codes, use your non Kaleidoscope Craft Essence, etc.
Each Servant has besides the class, skills you can level to 10, which has 5 card set ups that are different for each of them. The card set ups are the actions you can get per turn with your party. Buster (red) for damage, Arts (blue) for np gain and some damage, Quick (green) for quick stars and some np gain.
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>avoided falling into fate/stay waifu hell
>Picked up the saber Figma 2.0 rerelease due to iron maiden/Armored girl fetish
>This is getting released in a week

So this is how I die
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>>381063026
>Enjoy having a genderbent Hitler
We already have Ilya though.
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>>381061883
In addition to this, there are mystic codes, which can be leveled with quests, you have a basic one first (that is attack up to one Servant, heal to one Servant and dodge, it's basic but very useful), and you get quests (limited because of anniversary or events and three that have a quest without a limiter: Atlas, Clock Tower, and Chaldea battlesuit ) for other ones. Plus the 'craft essence' which is the equivalent of weapon you equip to your Servants in other mobage, they give special effects like Kaleidoskope means your Servant will have 80% of NP bar filled on entry, also give better HP or Attack stats.

You have three command spells to use in emergency which can: revive one fallen Servant, recover HP or fill their NP bar. A command spell is renewed on 00:00 JP time. If your party gets wiped out, you can use three command spells to revive them, but if happens another time after this, it'll cost you a quartz.
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This is an English pirate.
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>>381063580

This is how you alive anon!

Play game be happy!
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>>381063580

It's a slippery slope anon. I don't know how Takeuchi did it, but there's something about Saber that's just fucking tempting.
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>>381063507
>strong against Lancer
Fuck.
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>>381063871
Why are there so many paizuri monsters in these games
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I still have my Jap account, I assume this is a different server and you cant use your previous account?

I stopped playing during the KnK event and missed Shiki Kuro.
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>>381063871
English queen. Extra implies that Drake & Queen Elizabeth swapped places.
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>>381064045

So you're saying Drake was crossdressing as Elizabeth?
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>>381063580
You're gonna roll ALL the Sabers, right?

Right?
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>>381063026
Hitler is an ugly guy according to Koha Ace. Nasu had drama with Gil dressed as a pseudo-Nazi in Extella special outfit (they had to change his costume due to backlash). He and Takeuchi are smarter than genderbending an ugly mustache guy.
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>>381064045
Retconned by GOshit into her just being really manly so people talked about Drake as a man.
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>>381064045
I'm just going off what I know.
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>>381064109

Explain Frankenstein then.
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>>381064045
FGO Drake is Drake. No indication to be anyone else in her profile and mats, or Okeanus. She has zero memories of Extra too, unlike all the Extra Servants, never once references it, so it's safe to say she's not the 'Drake' you saw there.
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>>381063982

It's okay. Vanilla Saber is best anyway.
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>>381064102
I have animal girl, Armored girl, Red eyes, Short hair kinks that usually make me fall for a character.

There's a reason I didn't want to get into this with all the waifu bait.
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>>381064195
Did you actually read Frankenstein Monster's backstory? It's identical to the book in all except gender. And in the book Victor was going to create a female one for a mate to the Creature, it was the same here, only opposite. Exactly what do you want to be explained? Frankeinstein isn't controversial. Hitler is.
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>>381064427
No. I'm saying is that why is Frankenstein in FGO a cute little girl.

Also this is Japan. They dont give a shit what Hitler looks like, especially when other VNs have already done the genderbending of famous political leaders.
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>>381064145
There's no retcon, Drake and Elizabeth needed to be identical to 'swap places' occasionally. Or do you think the English court and Drake's crew are blind to not notice the Queen is a dude in a drag or their Captain suddenly has tits? The Extra one is Elizabeth pretending to be Drake thanks to Shinji hacking, the one in FGO is Drake and has no fucking clue of anything Mooncell related because she wasn't the Extra Rider per se.
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>>381063916

Well for starters, Saber arguable popularized the Joan of Arc archetype in anime, i.e. cute girl in armor, and by extension the frilly battle dress.

Saber is a quite a ground breaking character, design wise.
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>>381064782
what a slut

no wonder she's the Whore of Babylon
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>>381064782

Should I buy <her> game on ps4?
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Is there any co-op here? Is there even any player interaction at all?
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>>381064632
>why is Frankenstein in FGO a cute little girl.
Because she was one since Apocrypha, she's not made for FGO, dude.

>Also this is Japan. They dont give a shit what Hitler looks like, especially when other VNs have already done the genderbending of famous political leaders.
Yeah, you're wrong here. Did you miss that Hitler is officially male, old and ugly in Fate? Re-read that statement. We have already a pseudo design: he's old, male and ugly.Secondly, Nasu had to redo Gil's fucking clothes because of the backlash he got in JAPANESE TWITTER that he looked like a Nazi, so they do give a shit. Only deadweight franchises that aren't followed by millions as he is can get off the hook. Higashide had to recently say his portrayal of Emperor Qing was noncanon and nonofficial after publishing it in Chaldea Ace (Jing Ke's story) because it ruffled Chinese players feathers. He had to apologize personally in twitter for it.

You're showing your secondary for ignoring all this. I'm 100% sure Jesus won't ever show up aside of allusions by people who knew him because Nasu wants to avoid more drama.
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>>381064938

No. Unless you really like Fate/Extra. Otherwise, it's musou trash.
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>>381064989
No.
Arguably. You can send friend codes to people and they can use your servants that you put up on your support list. As well, in the case of events, you can have "raids" where you all attack the same enemy and lower their health.
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>>381064989
No, aside of some raids and supports. FGO is more a "personal game" rather than a "social game." There aren't competitions or rankings either. Shiokawa views them as shit, so I hope it remains that way, to him the best is to personalize the experience for each player rather than form some competition.
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>>381065012

>Nasu had to redo Gil's fucking clothes because of the backlash he got in JAPANESE TWITTER that he looked like a Naz

What the fuck. Are the Japs starting to get blue pilled now? 10 years ago, no one would bat an eye on this.
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>>381062039
Every single female in this series is turned into a joke to pander to otaku who want to "waifu" them. Most recent example was Kiara, who was a galaxy buster/reality warper turned into moeblob waifu who wants to fuck generic faceless MC so he can "purify" her.

I can't wait until Nasu puts Arc in the game and have her Archetype Earth Persona want to fuck MC too.
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>>381065238

>Arc

No he won't. Nasu doesn give a shit about Tsukihime anymore. If he did, Arc would have been in the game years ago. There's no reason a lesser known character like Ryougi Shiki got in first.
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>>381060959
I don't understand why you didn't think fate jumping the shark didn't happen at the very fucking begingin. Hey look king arthur is a girl!

You've got to be a blithering idiot to take any of the servant gender bender seriously when it's all been fanfiction from the start.
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>>381064938
If you like Nero as a character then sure. She is the main heroine of her route, and also the true route, cause fuck Altera and Tamamo I suppose.
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I thought they planned to have co-op long time ago? I stopped playing around last year so don't know.
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>>381065219
Japs have become increasingly progressive thanks to the youth being exposed to more cultures from around the world. Some recent poll showed that age 20-30 Japanese are all in favour of multiculturalism. P5 was all about breaking out of Japanese "no individual, all community" line of thinking.

Wait until the old generation dies off and Japan will become the next EU.
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>>381065238
>Most recent example was Kiara, who was a galaxy buster/reality warper turned into moeblob waifu who wants to fuck generic faceless MC so he can "purify" her.
You're one of those idiotic fags who actually believe that when her profile makes certain to say she wants him dead and she's just toying with him?
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>>381065374
Shiki predates Arc. Ryougi is arguably Nasu's baby girl.

>>381065395
To be fair King Arthur being a girl tied into the plot very well (her own inferiority complex and the need to keep everything a secret which indirectly led to the downfall of Camelot).

Nowadays random historical figures are turned into girls just for the waifu $$$.
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>>381065176
>Shiokawa views them as shit
So he has some amount of intelligence. There is not a single mobage that benefits from multiplayer. GBF is unmitigated esports cancer because of it, FFBE Arena is atrocious whale shit, FEH would be in the same boat if they actually gave a modicum of shit and put forth any amount of effort into their AI, so it just ends up not being fun anyway, etc. Only mobage I can think of that handled multiplayer semi-competently is Mobius, and even that I usually just simply avoid doing. You want multiplayer, go play a fucking real game on a real platform, not a phone game.
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>>381065553
It's a game. Either she corrupts him and then kills him or he remains chaste showing her true love and purifying her demonic nature in the process.

You can guess which one is going to happen.
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>>381065395

Maybe because Saber was a relatively small exception at the time. Seriously, look at the original F/SN cast and you'd notice Saber sticking out like a sore thumb. Back then the thought of famous mythical heroes being genderbent into little girls were nothing short of a joke at beast's lair. That was 9 years ago. Look at where we've come thus far, with Sakura reduced to a caricature just because her corrupted form in HF had a nice set of tits.
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>>381065553
wow you're right she's totally going to be successful with that attempt to kill him and the MC who believes she's good contrary to all evidence won't win out in the end of that confrontation
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>>381065592

>Ryougi is arguably Nasu's baby girl.

I doubt that. Has he finally confirmed her standing in the powerlevel scale. Last time he said Ryougi could only fight defensively against servants and was roughly on Ciel's skill level, but now she seems to be able to warp reality and shit.
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>>381065374
Ostensibly the reason why KnK Shiki got in already is because that story is done, there will be no more of it in the foreseeable future. Whereas Tsukihime is still announced as its remake eventually coming out, he's working at a blistering 5 words per day on the script, truly the hardest of workers. When the remake is done, we will get Arcueid. I just wonder if FGO will still be functioning in 27 years when that happens.
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How's the story for this anons?
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>>381065954
Ryougi was the first character Nasu wrote and he stated in interviews he had a special spot for her. Unfortunately that just means he whored her out so I expect Arc will be getting the same treatment soon. Nasu already expressed interest in making Arc an SSR.
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>>381066156
Good at certain points
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>>381066075

But Tsukihime is finished to. What we're getting is just a remake, so I can see why he's being sluggish about it.

There's nothing more you need to learn about Arc other than she's a vampire princess who's secretly the avatar of the Earth.
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>>381065954
>but now she seems to be able to warp reality and shit.
Small time in the Nasuverse, my man.
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>>381066297
Because in Camelot he retconned all the DAA lore so there's probably a lot of inconsistencies now with old Tsukihime that he is retconning with the remake
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>>381065592
There is no to be fair in this argument. F/ST took off and Saber was a big hit as a character. Of course since the idea worked once, it's going to be done again and again. It's not that difficult to look at other series taking a popular idea and milking it for all it's worth.

Also it's japan. This is the county where they turned soda cans and ships into cute girls. Ripped the pants off cute girls and gave them airplane stockings. Hell let's go back on gender bender and look at Ranma 1/2 who changes his /her sex by getting slashed with warm/cold water.

So turning random people into girls for waifu$$$? They've been doing it forever.
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>>381066318

It wasn't before. Before the retarded Fate/Extra characters, the strongest character in the Nasuverse was a guy who could consume chunks of the planet to make a sword proportionally as large as the target's "size" and the avatar of Mercury who could turn everything in the vicinity into glass.

Right now, Fate has reached DB Super levels of power creep.
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>>381066534

Not him but while yes they have been doing it forever, not even Urobuchi dare genderbend anyone in Fate/Zero. Saber being a girl was actually a big plot point. Everyone else remained a dude as was recorded in history.
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>>381065219
Thankfully, Fate isn't as trashy as to pull that shit. We have enough trash with Takeuchi genderbends (because is he, not Nasu, who chooses who gets bend). As far as Nasu is concerned, Artoria is actually a guy, and always writes her as a guy. You're also overestimating the number of genderbends. Here's the list:
>From outside FGO (added later)
- Artoria (and Arthur is also canon, but from another world).
- Mordred (and this one is male in Arthur's world).
- Nero.
- Drake.
- Hundred Face Hassan (1 personality).
- Serenity Hassan (technically, too because we don't know any historical one).
- Jack the Ripper (and there's a "male" version in Strange Fake).
- Okita.
- Nobunaga.
- Attila (was supposed to debut in Extella, got delayed).
- Goku (pseudo counts, Goku can switch gender in Koha Ace sheet. hasn't appeared yet in FGO, but maybe soon).
- Prelatti (as Servant is male, but can switch bodies, Strange Fake-only so far).
- Merlin (Prototype world).

>From FGO
- Ushiwakamaru (who is male in Musashi world). Always known for being androgynous.
- Musashi (who is male in FGO, this is one from another world).
- Gareth (apparently, probably male in Arthur's world). Not playable yet.
- Ibaraki Douji (pseudo counts because in some legends, she's a woman).
- Shuten Douji (pseudo counts because can shapeshift and was female in legend to trick Kintoki).
- Minamoto no Yorimitsu
- Sanzou
- "Jaguar Man" (Taiga pseudo Servant)
- Quetzalcoatl (originally Quetz favored male vessels, but is in a female vessel because of the connection of Venus with women).
- Leonardo Da Vinci (actually a transexual character: a dude who just turned himself into a woman because of his vision of beauty, Mona Lisa, after his summon. Still a dude, as the interlude reminds you).
- Nezha. Potentially female, not playable yet, but it could be like Enkidu, and have no gender.

11 new genderbends (potentially), most of them Japanese.
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>>381066820
>urobuchi
you mean the guy who forces his shit so hard that Nasu had to tell him to fuck off in the Fate zero event for trying to force more grimdark shit in the event story
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>>381066297
Type Moon likes collaborating with itself when it comes to tie-in events, we've had Prism Illya, CCC, Zero. There will inevitably be a Tsukihime collab event, and at that point the smartest thing to do is unload all salvos on 5* Arc, 4* Ciel, shit like that. It doesn't make much sense to just randomly drop Arcueid in. The only instance it would have was the CCC event, since she was in Extra, and they didn't. Now we have to wait for the Tsuki collab.
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>>381065691
Nothing will happen because is unlikely she ever appears again aside of a team up vs Beast VII which she'll get a comedic dialogue with Andersen?
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>>381066930

So what you will about Urobuchi but at least he kept the tone consistent.
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>>381066840
In Sanzo's case, her character has been portrayed as a female a lot in media. A chinese live-action adaptation of Journey to the West comes to the mind.
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>>381066957
Nice crystal ball there

>tries to force his head canon
>gets responded to with head canon
>w-well your head canon will never happen
simply ebin
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>>381033723
When is my boy Komaeda getting in?
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>>381066840

>overestimating

What the fuck, that's a lot actually.
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>>381066930
What happened here exactly?
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>>381066390
There's no Tsukihime lore though. Tsukihime as far as Nasu is concerned isn't written yet.
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>>381067206
Urobuchi wanted to write more edgy stuff for the Fate zero event and Nasu had to tell him no we want this to have a happy ending basically
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>>381066534
Once again, Saber being a girl tied heavily into the plot with implications down the line a decade later into every other Fate related work that involves Camelot or its characters (F/Z, GoA, F/GO). You're also ignoring that she was the only genderbent character in F/SN.

Nowadays literally every other servant is a female for no reason beyond selling to lonely neckbeards who want to waifu them and dump their wallets into the game. I mean can you give me a good reason why Jack the Ripper is a girl? How about Drake?
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>>381066930

Says the guy who wrote Kara no Kyoukai and Tsukihime. All the digusting shit on those stories are easily on par with what Urobutcher has written, or has Nasu gotten soft now?
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>>381066297
>But Tsukihime is finished to. What we're getting is just a remake, so I can see why he's being sluggish about it.
He said he was done with KnK, anon. He could only write more thanks to FGO, so expect more in FGO if he feels like writing it again. Tsukihime isn't done because he's rebooting it.
>>381065592
>Shiki predates Arc. Ryougi is arguably Nasu's baby girl.
Nasu's first work was the Prototype draft he finished 1/3 during high school. His first female character was Manaka, who gets called ruler and princess of the Root/Akasha.
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>>381067343
>drake
extra profile says she's queen Elizabeth doesn't it
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>>381066820
There's inconsistencies on each side. Saying saber makes sense with the switch but demying others is stupid. Not to mention they've kept several historical figures as male anyway.

Let's pull back a bit and remember that Fate's original story included some very crazy magic, the holy grail as a wish granting ritual and that they were summoning copies of the heroic spriits from past and future.

It seems silly to accept all the other crazy stuff happening but raising an eyebrow to genderbent stuff later on when you know they are just milking series popularity.
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>>381067409
>His first female character was Manaka

Isn't that Ryougi's daughter?
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>>381066957
>UR WRONG SHE WANTS TO KILL HIM
>The setup implies the protagonist will obviously win her heart
>W-WELL IT DOESN'T M-MATTER!

Check mate, fag.
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>>381067356
>hey man we want this to be a happy story where the tragic shit from fate zero doesn't happen
>tries to be edgy anyways
>dude seriously no
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>>381067414
So? What does that add to the story of EXTRA? Literally fucking nothing.
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>>381063096
The nasuverse has some really cool organizations (magic association, burial agency, and so on) that would be interesting to see more of, but I can't help but feel if these concepts were expanded into games they would come out lackluster
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lmao this is the most pathetic shit I've ever seen

what do your mother's think of you
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>>381067489

But F/Zero was always supposed to be tragic shit. It serves a purpose to later on forming Shiro's personality. Why does Nasu care? It wasnt even his work.
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>>381067623
Because Nasu is the one who approves all the Fate side projects because it's his ip
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>>381067596

They worked fine in the VNs. But Nasu doesn't feel like it.
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>>381067356
I don't think there's anything in KnK and Tsukihime that compares to the butcher. Especially if you consider that even with the dark stuff most of the characters who suffer get happy endings one way or another.
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>>381067159
The majority of the genderbends have either a male version or were connected to women/androgyny already. Leonardo is speculated to be transsexual in real life (with Mona Lisa as a self portrait of him in a drag) so Nasu just used this shit to create "her" character.
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>>381067718

I don't know. Leo from Kara no Kyoukai would easily fit in Urobutcher's stories

>crossdresser
>bat shit crazy
>likes knives
>cannibal
>serial killer
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>>381067356
That's funny, I don't remember anything like the graphic glorification of child death in KnK and Tsukihime like Zero had. You had rape sure, but that is because Nasu is a bit of a hack and always includes that with at least one female character because it's easy sympathy points without actually making the character sympathetic.
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>>381067159
There's over 100 Servants in the game. The majority of the female characters are... female.
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>>381067343
Can you give me a good reason why all the other historical figures have to stay male in a make believe story? Again saying that "saber being female made sense as plot" is stupid. She was made female because it's part eroge so you had sex scenes.

Why make Saber a girl? Why not keep her a man? She acts like anyway and not like a tomboy. Being female makes no differance in Arthur's problems with ruling and infeority complex. Men can suffer from the same thing and react in the same manner.
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>>381067718
Not the guy you're talking but huge KNK fan here.

I'd say that Paradox Spiral and the movie with proto-Sakura have gridmark moments.
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>>381067475
No.
Manaka is the antagonist of Prototype, the older sister of the heroine, Ayaka. Also half of Beast VI, the actual Whore of Babylon.
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>>381067596
You're getting that shit now with Chaldea.
Clock Tower is expanded in Case Files.
Atlas a little in Extra.
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>>381068007

Well that doesnt make sense. Considering [NULL] Shiki is the Root/Akasha.
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>>381068007
Shadow Nero from Red Nero's interlude still makes me think she's the actual Beast VI and Manaka is just hijacking her place

Or Nero is the proper Beast VI but her failed assassination attempt by her mother or early suicide prevented her from awakening as a Beast in life

>>381068118
Manaka has a root connection too , hers manifests as what can only be described as actual Mary sue bullshit powers
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>>381068082

Still no Church though, which sucks. I find the DAA far more interesting than Servants because of how abstract some of them are. But considering that Fate has always centered around the Magi Association, we'll never get that.
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>>381067475
Big bad of Prototype. Proto had a switch of antagonists, evil priest dude controlled Berserker and was a midboss. Evil yandere loli was the hidden boss which appeared with the Beast of Revelations and an army of Altered Servants.

Manaka concept was used as base for Illya and her powers split into many characters. Last one who got some of them is BB (who uses some of her Potnia Theron, due to her hacking that skill not something she was born with unlike Manaka).
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>>381053885
Oh shit what's up
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>>381067909
>Can you give me a good reason why all the other historical figures have to stay male

Your original claim was that it was always done this way dating back to Arturia in Fate. I explained that back then there was a legitimate reason with long-lasting implications that affect the franchise. Saber being female was a big reason for her inferiority complex that kickstarted her entrance into the Holy Grail War. Saber being female was why she couldn't give Guinevere the D leading to her letting Lancelot have his way with her wife. This all led to the downfall of the kingdom affecting Lancelot, Gawain, Kay, basically fucking everyone with far reaching complications that spurned Merlin to set about saving the world just to create a happy ending for her that we only get to see the fruition of now in F/GO, almost 15 years after the original F/SN.

By the logical progression of this discussion it is up to you to explain how modern genderbenders like Jack the Ripper being girls contributes to the story like Saber did. If you cannot do so, then you can't use the excuse
>B-B-BUT S-SABER!!!

You have no argument. Good night.
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>mfw we'll never get a game with Enhance aka Dante From Devil May Cry

http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Enhance
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>>381068204
>Nero is the 'actual Beast VI' when Merlin said Beast VI escaped Arthur's destruction and flee to another world, so now Arthur is in a grand order and is chasing after L and R (666 and Manaka) in FGO
Unless you're saying Nero appeared in Prototype to fight Arthur in 1991 and 1999 (hint: she didn't), it's going to be Manaka possessing Nero and using her. It's not like Sakurai didn't pave the way by showcasting Manaka can possess people and dimension/world hop.

>>381068118
Ryougi only got a connection with Akasha after she was hit on a car and got to drift around a bit. Manaka was born with the Root in her head since day 1.
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>>381067945
I'm not saying there's not dark stuff but with Nasu but with him more often than not it leads to some sort of positive or noble end result while with Urobuchi it's usually stressed how meaningless it was and how it accomplished nothing.
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cant wait. whats some tips i should know before playing
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>>381068472
I regret I will never get to see Blackmore in action.
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>>381068204
Septem and interlude imply Nero has something else within her.
(It's going to be Manaka for sure).

>he's the actual Beast VI

No? Merlin said that Arthur fought the Beast VI in two occasions. The ritual of the Grail in Prototype is to bring to life that Beast in the first place, which can happen because the half of it was born in the world, that's Manaka, the whore of Babylon (the 'great Harlot').
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>>381068738
Reroll for Herakles. Aim for Waver if you want to get a SSR.
Save your quartz.
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>>381068762

I will never get over how fucking cool his name is. Say it out loud. GRANSURG BLACKMORE. I don't even give a shit how edgy it sounds.

In fact, a lot of DAA's had names where you can easily tell Nasu has having fun mixing random european words, like Rizo-Waal Strout
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>>381068738
Reroll until you get Heracles and Waver
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>>381067343
>I mean can you give me a good reason why Jack the Ripper is a girl?
Different interpretation. Jack, having never been caught, plays by different rules when being summoned. When summoning Jack, it picks one of the many different interpretations about their identity and draws it. Loliripper and Berserker Jack are both possible draws of the overall Servant Jack the Ripper, neither more valid than the other. You could summon them as Assassin and Berserker respectively, and neither would be more Jack the Ripper than the other.
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>>381068467
So basically you take to F/ST as gospel without ever questioning it but soon as one of the other games in the series starts to do the same thing you cry foul for no real reason.

I don't see any explanation of why Jack the Ripper being female is bad other than
>B-B-BUT H-HISTORICAL FIGURES!!!

You keep saying Saber being female makes sense when the original story for King Arthur already covered all your poor excuses for arguments.

In the end you think it's ok when one make believe story does it but not another. Sad.
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>>381069272

Not him, but you sound like the kind of people who defend retcons like what DaS3 did with DaS1's lore.
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>>381068467
Not him, I understand what you're saying. But some of the genderbends do have explanations: Jack the Ripper isn't the real Jack the Ripper, because they weren't caught, it's the embodiment of angry aborted fetuses and abandoned children who are trying to crawl into women's wombs because they want a mother (killing them). There are many who have been women in some legends or shapeshifters (like Shuten and Ibaraki). And others who suffered the brunt of being born female (Minamoto, other world Musashi who was abandoned by her father, and most recently Nobunaga - who became a serious character in Guda Guda 2 with her backstory with Nobuyuki).
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>>381069379
Not him, but you sound like the king of people jumping into an argument they don't understand.
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>>381068467
Protip: Nasu doesn't see Artoria as a woman and said genderbending her destroyed Fate. He is too beta to tell Takeuchi to fuck off.
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>>381069617

But I do. Back in F/SN, Saber being a girl was a big deal. Nowadays it just feels so hamfisted because you can reason "well its history. It can't be all correct, am I rite?"

Seriously, how the fuck is the leader of the Shinsengumi a young girl?
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>>381069638
> and said genderbending her destroyed Fate
wew what
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>>381067343
Jack the Ripper was female is a popular theory. Even a fujobait manga like Kuroshit uses it. Though lolijack is more the revenge of the children the whores aborted. Strange Fake Jack embodies the demon theory and different people theory.
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>>381069774

Well, for starters, look what the franchise has become. It's worse than destroyed. It was, it would have been left alone, but now it's barely recognizable to what it was originally been.
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>>381068467
>legitimate reason with long-lasting implications that affect the franchise

hahaha! Long lasting implications he says.
>saber clones all over the place
>saber herself cloned into a mature with an alter clone to boot
>pick your favorite clearly they all have legitimate reasons

The delusion is real.
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>>381069873
>A bunch of japanese teenagers summon historical figures and make them fight
Still there
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>>381069760
It's been pointed out several times that there's plenty of male servants left as male. So getting upset over some becoming female and not liking the explanation is stupid.
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>>381069774
>Even though sometimes he (aka Takeuchi) says impossible things, at the time the concept seemed simply ridiculous. Turning Saber into a girl, that'd completely destroy Fate! At first I was very against the idea.
He went along with it for money and because Takeuchi. But he even says in more recent interviews that Rin is of "another gender" from Saber, and agrees with Butcher when says that the story of Fate route is about a boy falling in love and "becoming a girl." Nasu never stopped seeing Artoria as a guy. It's ridiculous to him to see King Arthur as a girl, he compared it to thinking Berserk's Guts as a girl.
Makes more sense when to him, Arthur is the protagonist of Fate, and he's a boy.
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>>381069774
Behind the scenes, Takeuchi is the one who keeps pushing for more Seiba and even 'draws Saber new Servant concepts and gives them to Nasu' when "nobody asks him" or begs Nasu to make Saber the heroine of this event (like happened in Christmas). He's also behind the genderbends. They weren't planning FGO genderbends until Takeuchi came and told them to rework some male Servants as girls.
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>>381070116
Read that quoted line again. I think you missed some very important context. He did wind up having to do a heavy rewrite but I think most would agree the end product is pretty damn good.

>>381070275
Yeah I know about this and it's hilarious because Takeuchi is subtly a genius for it. Gets to draw his waifu continuously while Japan eats it up because Saber is infinitely marketable.
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>>381070275
It's funny how he puts in so much effort for Saberface genderbends and yet the best one aesthetically is a goddamn donut steel.
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>>381069774
>Takeuchi switching the genders of the protagonist and the hero, Saber. Takeuchi describes Nasu's response to the suggestion as being: "as if I suggested Berserk's main character, Guts, should be a woman."

Nasu hates it. Now you know why Saber is a villain in all FGO Orders Nasu wrote. While Arthur gets super buffed over her and always heroic, even Roman, who was a paranoid fuck, trusted him 100% after meeting him for one second. Nasu is passive-aggressive.
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>>381070275

I think Takeuchi does this because he literally cant draw any other face other than Seiba.
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>>381070498
>He did wind up having to do a heavy rewrite but I think most would agree the end product is pretty damn good.
I did read the quote, and he agreed because he needed to turn his idea into a "bishoujo game", not because he liked it. If he liked it, he wouldn't say things like "trying to convince Saber is a girl" or say that Saber isn't a girl. Nasu never will see King Arthur as a girl, even if Takeuchi draws her as a cute petite blonde, he would always write her as a guy with changed pronouns.
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>>381070506
Subjective. Everyone has their personal favorite saberface.
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>>381070275
God if that's true it's good Takeuchi is the alpha of that duo, since Fate would have been insipid trash that never went anywhere if Prototype was the original Fate released in 2004 or whenever the hell it was. The amount of otakubucks utterly eclipses anything the fujos could have mustered. Saber generated money fueled the rapid expansion of Fate, so Nasu should be washing the mans balls every day for making them both very rich individuals.
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>>381070642
Of course it's subjective, it's just that the gap is pretty large imho, though plenty of that does come down to artist preference.
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>>381070508
>asshole forced your work into something you didn't like then gets all pissy when called out on it.

Can't really blame Nasu. I'd want to see my own creation destroyed if someone twisted it so badly.
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>>381070634
You know, I think this is the reason I like Saber. She acts like a guy even when she fights.
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>>381070657
Takeuchi is the CEO of Type Moon, so he's the alpha. He's always provided to Nasu and pushed him to work his fat ass.
They can release Prototype now where otaku VNs are dead as fuck while Otome VNs thrive and are the center of the market.
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>>381070910

I bet it will be a mobile vn. Seriously that shit is everywhere even on google play
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>>381070842
I like Saber too. I don't think Nasu writes girls very well, or as well as he likes guys. Saber is one of the few exceptions because Nasu simply pictures her as a guy, so he gives her more depth than "lusts after some guy's dick." Look at FSN 'romances': Rin gives up everything, including her own crest in RN, to babysit Shirou and assure he's happy (what of her aspirations and her character outside Shirou in UBW?) while Sakura character orbited mostly around him as her happiness in the ending. Saber is the only option whose storyarc isn't about hooking up with Shirou and chooses her identity as king. Only after she has no duties left, she gets with Shirou, and is the same with him.
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>>381070910
How now is absolutely the time to pander to fujos, back in the early to mid 00's when Stay Night came out however, Takeuchi was a goddamn visionary that realized if the lead Servant wasn't a cute girl, it simply is not going to do as well as it could. The man has a keen eye for what the market wants.
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>>381071171

And even more funny is that Saber is the one who wears the pants in their relationship. Must be that Rank B Charisma.
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I'm curious. Is Arthuria even in Extella?
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>>381071385
It's Artoria and yes, as a secret character.
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>>381071245
Prototype was envisioned by Nasu as a novel, not as an otome or fujo game. Arthur was going to be the main protagonist in general. Fate was a work that followed Arthur's quest for the Holy Grail. Some of Arthur's traits were inherited by Shirou/EMIYA (he cooked for Ayaka, for example, and was a tad more cynical like Archer- the Rin/EMIYA stuff in the Prologue which had some sexual tension were based on a scene with Ayaka and Arthur).
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>>381071385
Yeah. She's got the old school secret character thing going on. You can only get her in like a couple of maps, and you have to satisfy certain tasks first, then go to a specific area, fight the specific people, and then defeat her. I hear the English version patched out some of the nonsense, I only played the JP version so I can't confirm. She's ridiculously OP, as one would expect.
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>>381043072
I'm having a hard time believing that.
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Friday cant come soon enough
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>>381071171
I like saber as a character but i'd see no loss if you flipped her back as a male. The ending relationship with Shirou would be a bond of brothers rather than romantic.

Liking her cause she doesn't act female.. well that's derp imo. If Rin or Sakura were written like males would you like them more? Granted ya Nasu doesn't right females very well but then UBW/HF were far more about the change in Shirou's ideals/actions than the girls. Fate put a lot of focus on Saber in comparison.
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>>381071549
No he's pretty correct. Perhaps you will struggle with the handful of legitimately difficult fights, but you can get through at the very least 90% of the content without a single SSR. The other 10%, borrowing a good SSR from someone on your friends list should be enough.
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>>381071245
Takeuchi isn't as visionary as you think. The one who smelled the female market was his buddy Shiokawa, who made them do Valentines for male Servants. They have no goddamn clue how to handle them yet, so it's babysteps but would be fucking stupid to not milk it. Aniplex start it first with Zero Anime which was the work hat made Fate actually popular. FSN was popular, but in a niche way. Zero took it and made it known outside the otaku market (real state agencies, VISA, etc). That's why FGO gets a VR with Mashu (for otaku) and a stage play with Camelot (something female players like a fucking lot). Two mediums that would attract non anime fans too.
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>>381071690
Arthur's issues are different from Arturia's though. His original wish was to destroy himself (like EMIYA) which he got over it in the past thanks to Ayaka.
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>>381071690

Not him, but its not about Rin and Sakura being girly, but because Saber, a young girl acting like a guy really fitted her role as the King of knights. She borders between tomboyish and "honorable". I dont know but I cant describe it.

This is especially emphasized whenever she fights Gilgamesh. Her feistiness is just alluring to me.
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>>381071941
I thought his wish was that he save Camelot but unlike Artoria he still wanted to be king.
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>>381057234
You can actually get a code for each game state in options and use it to reboot your entire save file from the cloud if you wipe your app data. Effectively you can use that method (so long as you keep your code safe) to face as many files as you want.
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>>381033723
granblue is superior in every way
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>>381071245
As the other anon said, Takeuchi is stuck in the past and staying on formulas that worked but if they had done that, FGO wouldn't have a growing playerbase. Shiokawa, his friend and the boss in DW, made suggestions that upgraded them. Events for example, they weren't planning to do them until he requested and it's Shiokawa who wants more male Servant stuff because the female playerbase seems to be the one growing: from low 20% in the beginning of 2016 to high 30% in the beginning of 2017 which is a huge change without promotion and before they launched the Valentine stuff or gave Dantes a stellar treatment in mats/CD drama.
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>>381044157
this
>>381044495
fucking stupid normie
>hurr durr everyone needs a phone because everyone has one these days
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>>381072659
> fucking stupid normie

not him, but even otakus have phones these days just for games like this.
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>>381072318
No, Arthur understood that he couldn't change the past, he simply didn't know what to do because a king without a kingdom wasn't anything. In Fragments, it's explored, he came to the conclusion he should make a deal with Alaya to erase himself because he didn't have a purpose anymore. That's why Manaka and Ayaka conclusions to help are opposite. Manaka wants to rebuild Camelot and make it an eternal place so Arthur would exist as an eternal king, and her prince. Ayaka helps him to come to terms with his loss and gives him a new purpose: he becomes her knight and protector. Similar to Arturia's true wish (to protect someone/be a knight, this was untouched, but her wish was the... bad guy's goal in Prototype because it would have fucked over history which Nasu sweeps under the rug to point out this in FSN).
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>>381072520
Granblue has shit tier lore and generic waifus tho
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>>381070657
>The amount of otakubucks utterly eclipses anything the fujos could have mustered
Fujos are the dominant market force of doujinshi by a large margin.
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>>381033723
why are you advertising shitty mobage?
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>>381072886
Because Doujinshi is literally fanfiction
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>>381072846
>generic waifus
Does it? I don't know much about it but I don't think you can get more generic than "it's a [historical figure] BUT AS A GIRL!"
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