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>tfw someone says vidya isn't a hobby

Why? People on /v/ say this, but shiposting is? People irl say this, but watching netflix is? Explain.
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>>381009719
"hobby" is one of those words that has an actual definition, but for some reason millennials think they can redefine it to fit their misinformed perceptions.
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>>381009719
no
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>>381009719
yes
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"millennial" is one of those words that has an actual definition, but for some reason idiots think they can redefine it to fit their misinformed perceptions.
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Knitting is a hobby. Watching TV is not.
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>>381010319
Please give us that actual definition anon
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its not an activity its a distraction. watching tv isn't a hobby.. playing video games isn't a hobby.
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Fapping to and fantasizing about cash me ousside girl is a hobby, vidya is not.
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>>381010737
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Usually a hobby implies some sort of self improvement or the ability to create something.

Consuming media is not a hobby, yes that includes watching TV.
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>>381010896
This just isn't true.
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>>381010896
>Usually a hobby implies some sort of self improvement or the ability to create something.
According to who?
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Just say OK and walk away, there's no getting through to those people.

And quit giving a fuck what people say about what you like to do.
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>>381009719
>go to job interview
>they ask me what my hobbies are
>have to make things up because I can't say playing vidya and jerking off
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>>381010737

not him, but

>Merriam-Webster
a pursuit outside one's regular occupation engaged in especially for relaxation

>Cambridge Dictionary
an activity that someone does for pleasure when they are not working

so hobby can be literally staring at the wall, if that's your thing
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>>381010892
I regularly do ponies in my spare time for leisure, my hobby is doing hobbies
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>>381010319
What do you think a millennial is?
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>>381010892

In other words, playing video games
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>>381010972
Is
>>381011000
Normal people

Prove him wrong
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>>381010892
Pack it up boys, vidya is a hobby
/thread
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>>381010896
That's called work son.
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>>381010896
reading novels isn't a hobby then?
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>>381011014
what kind of hobbies do employers expect you to have?
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>>381011154
>Prove him wrong
>>381010892
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>>381011167
No, wait. It says an activity done for pleasure. Pretty sure /v/ only plays videogames to get angry.
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>>381011014

I aleays say creative writing, history and film

it sound like I'm not some retard who plays vidya and shitposts on 4chin all day and I can actually talk about those topics if they'll ask further
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>>381011191
You improve your cognitive skills
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Playing vidya is a hobby it's just a bland one like like watching tv or reading books
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Just use the word "past-time" There now you faggots can stop bickering over semantics you fucking inglorious bastards.
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>>381011252
>it's on google it must be true
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>>381011295
so there aren't any games in the entire history of video games that could maybe boost your cognitive skills by even a little?
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>>381011227
Something constructive or educational. They want you to have hobbies like painting or building model trains or some shit. Something interesting they can blast out in a company email about their new hire.
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>>381011295
Brain age.
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>>381009719
Why are you so self conscious about your vidya?
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>>381009719
Vidya is a hobby, its just not a creative one, unless you are making vidya. Creative hobbies are always better than tv, vidya, etc
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50% of gamers are girls. If playing video games is your hobby, you can meet someone that likes playing them as well.
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>>381011553
Minecraft is super creative.
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>>381011438
Its from merriam webster.
And you can't argue that the source is "bad" when you don't provide an alternate source yourself.
Retard.
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>>381011227
Acceptable hobbies include hiking, biking, baking/cooking, hunting and fishing.

>>381011281
You sound extremely autistic.
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>>381011626
You are still creating in the confines of the developers vision.
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>>381011787
The developers did not envision being able to create a functioning calculator when they added redstone.
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>>381011690
Funny how all the acceptable hobbies are just the shit the last generation did for fun before the internet.
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>>381011690
>hunting and fishing
>something your ancestors did just to survive
>a hobby
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>>381011921
Yes but anything you create is still using things created on the whim of the devoloper. They take away redstone, they take away your creation.
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>>381011921
They probably did actually. They designed redstone to work like logic gates which are the fundamental building blocks of computers. A calculator is a pretty obvious thing to come out of that.

The thing they probably didn't envision is the crazy mob farms and sorting systems. Iron golem farms in particular are nuts.
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>>381011969
How is that funny?
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>>381012301
he means funny as in strange or notable

don't play dumb
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>>381012301
Because it's just old people screaming at the clouds as usual.
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>>381011227
transitioning into a "woman"
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>>381011690

>hunting and fishing

you might as well ad taxidermy while you're at it
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Gaming isn't a hobby.

It's a lifestyle.
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gaming is a hobby if you spend time outside of playing video games doing video game things. That means reading about software/hardware, development, following game designers, learning game design, getting gud. If you play games just for fun or are done when the console is off then it is not a hobby. But dedicating down time to video games makes it a hobby.
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>>381009719
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1Ch6N8QT00
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>>381011458
This. Employers just want to hear hobbies like "I read books and am part of a ping pong league!". I always just say I play guitar and spend time with my family and friends. I do all of these things, but I leave out the part where I prefer just to get high/drunk and shitpost on /v/ and jerk off.

Also, I go on alot on online dating sites/apps and I'm always amazed at how many women consider watching netflix to be a hobby. I guess for women on these dating sites it really doesn't matter how uninteresting their lives are as men will flood their inboxes regardless.
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>>381013034
ackchually it is a hobby even without all that other stuff, albeit a lazy hobby not worth mentioning.
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>>381013734
"watching netflix" is a euphemism for casual sex
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>>381011014
>Claim that I dabble in programming
>"Oh, my husband is a web developer! What are you working on?"
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>>381013734
>I always just say I play guitar and spend time with my family and friends. I do all of these things, but I leave out the part where I prefer just to get high/drunk and shitpost on /v/ and jerk off.
I feel like you're my long lost brother.
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>>381011014
>not saying shitposting
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>>381009719

Hobby denotes creation. Consumption is not creation. Video game creation and modding are hobbies. Playing vidya is not a hobby.
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>>381014004
>tell them I program as a hobby
>they ask me what I program
>mfw I make erotic games
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>>381012178
we also walk to get nowhere so what
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>>381014004
>web developer

hah, nothing to be nervous about.
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>>381014287
I guess the takeaway from this is that anything can be a hobby if it's just something you do for fun.
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>>381013889
I get the "netflix and chill" thing, but most women will write an entire dissertation of a profile yet when it comes to hobbies, they'll just throw this in like it's a fucking hobby. Binge watching greys anatomy is not a hobby.
>>381014009
I love you too, anon.
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>>381014282
>>381013034

Read
>>381011014

Things don't mean what you want them to just because you can't pick a dictionary.
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>>381010892
I guess It depends on the kind of games you play then? Because, you can't say that playing shit like Professor Layton isn't a hobby while reading is considered one.
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>>381014480

binge watching or just watching tv shows IS a hobby, just not worth mentioning
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>>381014286
Just say point and click video games.
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>>381014815
No. You play it for fun? It's a hobby. Simple as that.
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>>381014727
stale meme kid. 2/10 for effort.
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>>381014926
>it's something
>but something not worth mentioning

ok?
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>>381015115
I'd bump that up some points for you getting mad about it enough to respond.
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>>381015278
one of those two points was rewarded with a (You). retards need their participation prize after all.
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Basically, when you play video-games, you are subtracting your involvement in "real-life" with the effect of immersing yourself in a created universe in which skills learnt there are intended for that place only. Transferring the skills and abilities is a grey area even today.

Granted, with the help of imagination transferable part should be a problem.

Video-games in this sense, are the worst of all hobbies, even in comparison to netflix and shit-posting.
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>>381015491

how can videogames be worse than Netflix?
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>>381015670
Netflix is a normie activity you can use for bonding. Technically it is more useful.
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>>381015491
Change videogames for books or TV and it would be the exact same shit. I still don't get why people only complain about videogames.
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>>381015420
What's the other point for? Also, nice >420 get
>>381015670
He's trolling obviously. Shitposting is clearly the most important hobby.
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>>381015793

vidya are normie stuff as well and you can bond while pvp/coop or just play together

not to mention literal party stuff like Singstar or Buzz
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>>381015793
I hate to break it to you, but videogames is a normie hobby as well. I know you might not get out often, but just about every male plays videogames...even some *gasp* females engage in videogames as long as zelda or pokemon are involved.
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>dont really have any other actual hobbies besides vidya
>not even really that good at vidya desu
>tfw being this boring
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>>381011969
>funny how all the acceptable hobbies are just the hobbies that middle aged+ people in charge of hiring/management would have
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>>381016169
>>381016040
I'm sure reading 50 shades of grey is normie stuff too, but reading golden age sci-fi surely is not. Maybe anon enjoys Bemani games or dwarf fortress which is not normie at all.
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>>381009719
it is and isn't, i'm sure streamers don't always enjoy what they're playing and just play it for the memes and views it gets.
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>>381016426
I'm in marketing and upper management is mostly people in their 30s. If you don't play videogames or watch the latest netflix original, you're considered a weirdo.
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>>381010892
I do like that mare pussy from time to time
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>>381016680
does you really?
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>>381015491
>Basically, when you read novels, you are subtracting your involvement in "real-life" with the effect of immersing yourself in a created universe in which skills learnt there are intended for that place only. Transferring the skills and abilities is a grey area even today.

>Granted, with the help of imagination transferable part should be a problem.

>Novels in this sense, are the worst of all hobbies, even in comparison to netflix and shit-posting.
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>>381012202
Live takes away your hands and suddenly you cant create art anymore. You are also bound by the limits of this reality regardless if someone intentionally created it or if it came by evolution. The complexity does not limit the depth of artistic design within those systems. Look at how mariomaker created completely unthinkable level designs and mechaniks just by repurposing the given tools.
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>>381009719
>tfw I will never impregnate this underage slut and skip town

What is the purpose of having a dick if I can't do simple shit like this?
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>>381011281
>film
I say this too, but I fucking hate movies
I just shitpost on /tv/ and that's as far as my interest in film goes
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>>381009719
imo, hobbies are something you do that is constructive or productive in some manner. Video games are empty. You beat one, and then what? What do you have to show for your time and effort? Nothing. It's not a real hobby. It's entertainment.
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>>381009719
Music, 3D modeling, and reading.

>mentioning video games near any respectable adult
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>>381018412
>Video games are empty.
Please elaborate on that claim
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>>381009719
I don't know about "not a hobby", but at it's core, playing videogames isn't really a pursuit -- it's just consuming media. Even the most competitive game scenes can be upset by newcomers with minimal experience.
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>>381018412
Is chess a hobby?
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>>381018412
>imo
That´s the problem right there. There is an actual official definition for hobby, >>381010892 and it doesn't involve "constructive or productive" in any way.
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>>381018791
>oh wow that boy is a natural at [performing an ability]

Luckily real world athletes always stay relevant and never have new blood comming in.
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>>381010319
>Millenials

INTO THE TRASH
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>>381018795
No. It's an activity/sport/exercise. Not a hobby.

>>381018676
I'm not sure how else to say it. If you're not being productive, then you're not partaking in a hobby. The emotions you feel while playing video games only last in that moment, and then they wash away.
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>>381010796
A hobby is a regularly done activity for the sake of enjoyment.

Vidya is a hobby, by definition.
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>>381019085
Nah, the problem is that we have two different understandings, while our language is too inadequate to help us express both. So one word ends up getting co-opted to mean the thing we can't otherwise define.

Dictionaries are supposed to help use define what language we actually use. Not dictate what language we should use.
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>>381009719

I was going to say "no" and equate gaming to indulging in any other drug, like beer and weed. But then I read >>381010892 and discovered doings drugs can basically be considered a hobby. I have some life re-thinking to do
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>>381019150
Where do you define productifity then? If i learn about something new that might help me in the future creating or solving something would that count as productive? Afterall you are producing knowledge for yourself. Does it only count if you get some touchable thing after the process? Is taking a shit productive? You can utilize waste as fertilizer and for some chemical processes like making leather.
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>>381019392
>Only my definition is correct!!!
ok then.
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>>381011295
>games improve hand-eye coordination
>hundreds upon hundreds of games focused on philosophy
>games offer mental challenges

>HURR GAMES ARE NO HOBBY UNDER MY SILLY DEFINITION OF HOBBY HURR
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>>381019089
Real world athletes spend their whole time playing 1 sport typically from as soon as their of age to play. Being a natural is small time.
Videogame players never spend that long playing a videogame because it's a piece of media, and there's only so many times you can experience it before being bored.
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>>381011307
We'll too fucking bad for you mr xxx-treme.
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>>381009719
It's a fake hobby.. the lowest form of entertainment.
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>>381011227

social activism
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>>381019685
No. My definition is wrong. But is a growing understanding of the word, which will eventually eclipse the original meaning. You can either be a grammar nazi, or you can adapt.
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>>381019901
Puuuuke. No way. Earth can go burn in a fire before I do that.
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It's a useless "hobby"
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>>381009719
>This stupid bitch got rich overnight by acting out black stereotypes on Dr.Phil.
>I'm unemployed and can't find good work.

Fuck this world.
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>>381020104
Hobbies are useless by definition.
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>>381009719
It's media. It's a hobby, but it's low tier shit, down there with listening to music, watching anime, etc.
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>>381019914
Or you can be wrong and ignorant, like you.
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>>381020165
Fitness improves your life drastically.
SOME literature will make you smarter.
Shit is like leveling up irl
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Post more degenerate slut girl
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>>381019670
Being productive means that after you're task is complete, something of value remains.
Self improvement means fuck all if it only leads to repeating the same valueless task. If you get good at solving Zelda puzzles, then that only has value for solving more Zelda puzzles. That's not a real value.
Unless say for example, you were going to make a guide for the game. Then learning the game in turn allows you to create the guide, and thus is productive, and thus is a hobby. You can say "I make video game guides". That has a real value.

Taking a shit *can* be productive, if you go out of your way to make it so. Not if you do it just to do it.
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>>381020165
Wrong
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>>381020327
How can an idea be wrong? Because I used a word that also means something else? That's stupid, a lot of words have multiple meanings.
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mods i dont know why you deleted porn but kept the thread
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>>381021480
Maybe because discussing the legitimacy of video games as a hobby is something worth discussing?
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