Real talk, the PlayStation 4 doesn't deserve the amount

The PS4 is the ONLY good console this gen.

It deserves more sales, if anything

Wii U had Mario at launch
Xbox One has Ryse

Meanwhile the PS4 had Knack... Let that sink in for a moment.

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>>380995194
>360 was $100 cheaper than ps3 at launch
>wins
>ps4 $100 cheapter than xbone at launch
>wins

WOAH

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>>380995064
Sony won by doing nothing
The console market was a mistake

The only reason the Wii U failed is because gamers are too stupid to know a good game if it hit them on the head. Every year with Sony it's Call of Duty, Fifa, and GTA. Meanwhile Nintendo is making new innovating games that always tops the charts and reviews.

Yet Sony always manages to slip by without having to do nothing of value or worth. An idiot fan base too stupid to build a PC, so instead they buy a low end one.

>>380995064
People buy PS4 to play multiplats mainly. Deal and get over it

>>380995186
>It deserves more games, if anything
FIFY

>>380995471
>no gimmick console wins
whoa

>>380995186
>The PS4 is the ONLY good console this gen.
This, if only for the fact that it's the only console with games I'm interested in playing. Otherwise, I would've just gone with Nintendo, but I've lost all faith in them. I can't put up with Nintendo's shit anymore after the Wii U.

>>380995749
Take a look at how retardedly gimmicky your DS4 is and end yourself right now.

>>380995313
PS3 sold more than the 360

>>380995882
less than ipad and kinect

I don't see any console with actual games. I played Persona 5 and Yakuza 0 this spring and it was delicious.

>>380995882
The PS4 wasn't compromised or more expensive due to the optional features of the controller. Xbox One was weaker and $100 more expensive because of Kinect and the Wii U was practically a 360 with a tablet controller at $350.

>>380996036
Nice backpedalling. The point is that it is a piece of worthless gimmicky shit that fucks you in the ass every day by draining the battery of the controller. Meanwhile you can play your Switch for 40 hours straight with an actual regular controller, so get rekt, son.

>>380996276
>The PS4 wasn't compromised
>controller battery lasts 5 hours at most
I'm so sorry.

>>380996365
*+$70

>>380995313
360 and PS3 were more or less even
360 would have probably axed the competition if it didn't have paid online

The PS4 will keep selling but Sony's next console won't. The PS4 Pro already showed how successful a sony console is when they have actual competition to go against. They are incompetent as all hell and their total lack of new features, BC, cross-play, EA Access, etc will come back to bite them in the ass. It's the PS3 all over again.

People want to play the latest yearly multi platform on the best system possible while spending the least amount of money. The PS4 is just that.

>it doesn't deserve the sales it's getting
what does deserve said sales op, the wii u? the xbox all our exclusives are also on pc?

>>380996528
I'm talking about the controller that comes with the console, you dumb fuck.

>>380995194
It's almost like people don't buy consoles for the exclusives

>>380996831
The 3DS is the only 8th gen console that deserves the sales it got.

>>380995194
Ryse is the worst game I've ever played.

>>380995064
Yeah probably not. I like mine well enough but it's had many dry spells and depends too much on ports and multiplatforms.

>Microsoft reveals Xbox One
>Always Online
>Expensive
>Everyone is upset and can't believe it

>Sony shows PS4, does a basic console reveal, nothing special besides a little smack talk against Xbox One
>Everyone swears off Microsoft and says they're getting a PS4

>Consoles come out later
>Microsoft realized they're going to have to change their ways, go back on half the things they said
>People forget all the bullshit they tried to pull
>Everyone just buys Xbox's again

and some of these people don't understand why devs get away with this kinda shit when they have the memory of a goldfish.

>>380996886
>the switch isn't gimmicky but the DS4 is
lol

>>380996365
>meanwhile you can play your switch
>play your switch
>play
You're right in that you need a lost lasting controller to play the waiting game.

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>>380997230

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>>380997462
Playing a 77 game.

>>380996740
this desu

They're growing too complacent again like they did after the PS2.

>>380997220
Excuse me, but I don't see a huge pointless flashlight, nor a completely worthless touchpad embedded in my Joycon Grip. So yes, the DS4 is the gimmicky one. Deal with it.

>>380997462
Nice try

>>380997462
>77~

>>380997618
>muh aggregated scores!
You don't even deserve a reaction pic.

>>380995186
If it didn't have paid online and the ui wasn't so awful and buggy it would be a 10/10

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But look at all these games

Why? The only real competition sony has with the PS4 is the xbox one. Nintendo consoles don't really compete with those since people mostly buy them for nintendos first party games. PCs are usually more expensive and harder to set up for people, so when they decide what console to get it's usually between the PS4 and the xbox one. We all know what fucking shitshow the xbox one reveal was and it's hardware wise not as strong as the PS4. Obviously that changes now with the xbox one x, but those 60 million sales were made before the xbox one x reveal.

>>380997779
>spends months spamming >98~
>cries when it backfires
I'm sure you and other 12 year olds will enjoy Wii sports boxing edition 2 though.

>>380997746
>I-It doesn't count!
Pathetic.

>>380997776
See: >>380997776

>>380995064
How many does it deserve in your expert opinion OP?

>>380997968
I never did such a thing. And I sure will. Enjoy playing nothing this summer. Or this fall. Or this winter.

>>380997936
Still a better game than the entirety of the Wii U and Switch library.

>>380998187
That level of delusion is unhealthy.

>>380995524
Nintendo pretty much only has first party games. Sony has uncharted tlou horizon.

You say ps4 has rehashes? What about mario number 1269. Fuck even odyssey literally rehashed a link between worlds 2 d wall playing.

Nintendo doeant even get madden...and they are getting a shit old version of fifa. Splatoon will be the only fps for it cause no real fps is released for switch.

>>380996971
>3D gimmick
>deserves

>>380998402
Every 8th gen console has a gimmick. The difference is that the 3DS actually has a good catalogue of games.

>>380997972
>77~
You're right. How could I have been so blind? I-I think the months of waiting for this shovel ware of a game had lead me astray. Waiting all these months for the first game of the system and it being only slightly not as bad as the new mass effect sure let me down. Luckily I only have to wait half a year for a new super bing wahoo game. The 47th in the series.

>>380998102
I'm almost positive PS4 has a grand selection of shovelware. And for cheaper too!

>ps4fags only have an average of 8 games each
I have more than that on my Wii U

>>380997230
>no analogs but hd waggle tho

>>380995524
>Nintendo is making new innovating games that always tops the charts and reviews.
yes, rebuying wii u games is surely innovative and new and ARMS tops the reviews like a mofo. lmao

>>380995194
>launch
>relevant
>how many years later

>>380998360
Mario is literally better than every Sony IP that has ever existed. I don't need generic fps, spoats, or sick dark because unlike you I actually play games.

>>380995524
>too stupid to know a good game if it hit them on the head
>games that always tops the charts and reviews.
If they didn't know the games were good how did those games top anything?

>>380995194
wow, I don't have to timetravel to the launch time though, I can buy all the new games instead, surely amazing, you fucking idiot.

>>380997939
pro is selling 1/5 of ps4
bonex maybe worse than pro

>>380995064
The consoles itself might not be anything special but Sony's marketing team is great and everyone else's was terrible at the time.
Nintendo got a new and better marketing team and see how that's working for them despite the Switch not being that much better than the WiiU

In other words, marketing and marketing alone sells consoles.

>>380998479
You sure are jaded. Enjoy playing your PS4 shovelware while I have fun playing actual fresh titles.

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Yes it does.

>>380998740
play those fresh rereleased wii u titles, you dumbass.

>>380997972
>posts a mediocre game that is worth less than 10 minutes of gameplay if you don't pay extra for Nintendo's shitty online
>haha btfo of course it counts
Might post the new hottest indie that released this month too on the e-shop too by random developer #16342

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>>380995524
>Meanwhile Nintendo is making new innovating games

>>380995064
they have by far the best controllers

nintendo controllers are always fucking abysmal and xbox ones are pretty meeh

>>380998740
>world of goo
>metal slug
amazingly fresh and new alright.

>>380998823
>>380998965
I'm talking about ARMS, you fucking idiots.

>>380998965
neogeo games!

>>380998919
>cherrypicked example from two gens ago

>>380998853
The online is free, are you mentally challenged? It's a fighting game, you absolute retard, you don't even know what the fuck you're talking about! Holy shit, just end yourself.

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>>380995064
>It didn't deserve to be successful

How ass hurt does someone have to be to say this?

>>380995913
eventually, yes

for the first 3 years of the ps3's life it was trailing behind because 1) came out after the 360, so 360 had a sizeable market share before PS3's release 2) was more expensive than a 360, which cut off a lot of children (whose parents would buy whichever was cheapest of the two) and young adults trying to struggle with rent etc 3) because of the way the cell CPU was designed, it was a fucking nightmare to port anything to PS3 and a lot of multiplat games just ran like shit (fallout 3 and bayonetta are great examples)

microsoft got too comfortable in their position as "first place" and let quality slip as they shifted focus to trying to capture different markets with the Kinect and TV services, by this time developers understood how the cell CPU worked and game quality evened out between the 2 consoles for multiplats, meanwhile PS3 exclusives fucking shined at this point and people finally understood it WAS more powerful than a 360 if you knew what you were doing with it

but yeah, no way in hell was the PS3 as popular as the 360 for a number of years

>>380999030
>one fucking game
amazingly fresh and new, 77, bitch. enjoy that shitty shovelware. and how long after launch did you wait for that? lmao

>>380998457
The 3DS library is fucking awful

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>>380995064

The Switch has the best first year lineup in two gens. The PS4 has had four years to get it's shit together and still only has a handful of games. Some are great, absolutely, but it's an absolute shitshow for how long the console has been around.

Yes, Nintendo's lineup is all Nintendo stuff but at least they're giving people what they're asking for. The hardware isn't worth shit if the console has no software to show for it.

I haven't picked up any current gen console yet but I'll be grabbing a Switch by the end of next year when more stuff is out for it. Both Sony and Microsoft have shat the bed this gen.

>>380999150
>the online is free
Oh sweety honey bunny. No. You'll need to pay for the privilege of nintendos online. Oh and make sure to have a separate device for voice chat sugar.

>>380999406
The thing is that I have a brain of my own, so I'm able to determine if a game is good or not without sucking game "journalists" dick, so have fun playing your CoDs and your Fifas.

>>380999547
>The Switch has the best first year lineup in two gens.
no, it doesn't. stopped reading after that.

>>380999150
When the trial period expires, you will have to pay to be able to play online against other 12yo kids who bought the game
>it's a fighting game
Even Smash Bros is more of a fighting game than this lazy shovelware shit

>>380995064
I bought a PS4 a few months ago and in the period since then I have played my PS3 more.

>>380999587
It's free now, that it's when I'm playing ARMS online. This shouldn't be so hard to understand.

>voice chat
I'm not 12, so I don't give a fuck about that shit anyway.

>>380995186
If it wasn't for the Ps4 I would've skipped this gen entirely and stuck with steam.

>>380999597
>so have fun playing your CoDs and your Fifas.
I will, Reggie said that the only thing that matters is having fun, have fun hating games just because they are not on the switch.
>implying the switch doesn't have a fifa
the shittiest version of fifa, but still fifa, faggot.

>>380998530
>i don't know what 'average' means
You have to be 18+ to post on 4chan kid.

>>380999653
You should go watch the ARMS invitational tournament they did just a couple days ago instead of mindless hating. You're missing out big time.

>>380999709
I bought a switch and have played Wii U games on it(had to buy them again), truly the best console that every existed.

>>380998280
Say the toddler that think the switch is good

>>380999786
I'm not hating on that, I'm just saying that's all you got for the rest of the year. Meanwhile, I got dozens of actual new games coming to the Switch, including Fifa, if I cared about that.

>>380999859
>60m consoles sold
>8x as many games sold
(8x60m)/60m = 8

You fucking moron

>>380999954
Says the toddler that can't even write nor use punctuation properly.

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>>380999050

>>380999882
The level of Nintendelusion you have to have to say that the PS4 is getting nothing this year but the switch is.
I forgot, multiplats only count if it's a Nintendo game. Can't wait for the port of splatoon, err splatoon 2 to come out.

>>380998360
Who the fuck cares about sports games?

PS4 owner here. I agree.
This is the first year the PS4 really shined in terms of games and it's been out for nearly 4 years. It's PS+ service is anti-consumer and actually had the gall to hike the price. The western pandering and 360 dudebro rebound is what made it successful and because of that Sony has become blind to criticism.

I think the problem largely lies in game development as a whole becoming a more time consuming and expensive thing. What made the PS2 so great was the absolute volume of games being made for it. I'm still finding new franchises and hidden games to enjoy on it. With the PS4 there's not much in the way of hidden gems because releases are so sparse. It's either Triple A garbage or low effort indie pixelshit.

>>381000251
Yeah it's a poor sequel to a series that was never all that great to begin with.
Then you have games like BoTW and Splatoon.
You can't expect every single game a developer makes to be good.

>>381000461
>a sequel is a port
Guess Gravity Rush 2 is just a port

>>381000251
That was actually a great game, if you bothered to play it for more than 5 minutes before unfairly throwing it under the bus because MUH MOTION CONTROLS.

>>380999547
it's getting like three (3) games this July. Then another three (3) games in August.

>>381000251
It's IS really unique. It's just not that good.
But inconsistency is pretty much inseparable from inovation, whereas the refinement of iteration comes with the price or repetitiveness.

Contrary to what people belive, Nintendo has to mess with their series a lot in order for them to remain relevant.
If they try to pull an Ubisoft their franchises would end up dry and dead the same way. Just look at the NSMB series.

>>380995186
This. Paid online is shit tho

>>381000623
And that's why the indie industry is thriving. A lot of people realized that graphics do not matter anymore.

>>380998919
I liked Wii Music

>>381000810
Don't bother. They're contempt with having 1 (one) 'big' game a month.

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>>380995186
>only good console this gen
>the only worthwhile exclusive it had until this year was Bloodborne

Its only been good recently, the last few years were a joke if you played PC vidya

>>381000951
>implying either of the other consoles get more than 1 big game a month

He'll ps4 still has no games

>>381000951
To be fair, with 1 game every month for the lenght of 4 or 5 years means 50-60 games.

Even if only half of those tickle your fancy, it's still a pretty solid amount.

>>380995064

Considering MS and Nintendo launched nearly stillborn consoles all Sony had to do was stand still and look pretty to win consumers over, which they did. Surprisingly, it paid off. On its own merits sure, it's not THAT great of a console. But of the pick of the new boxes it was the pretty obvious choice unless you really liked Nintendo games. Now if Nintendo had approached the WiiU's launch like it has the Switch's then maybe you'd have a point because Nintendo was actually fucking competent that time but in the latter's case PS4 has over 3 years worth of momentum over it so fat chance Switch is closing that gap.

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>>380999547
Less than a week and already people are bored of it. There goes your game of the month.

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>>381000896
I'm not really a graphicsfag, I can still go back to old games and it doesn't bother me. It's just with indie games it feels objectively ugly when they make flat color sprites with noodle limb characters. I'm also tired of games that try too hard to be artsy.
All I want are regular ol AA games like pic related again.

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>>380995064
>Real talk, the PlayStation 4 doesn't deserve the amount of sales it gotten sine 2013.

Nintendo and MS shoot themselves on the feet, it was the only viable console, the Wii U was a failing piece of shit, the Xboner was the ultimate spying DRM machine always online.

I am not saying that Sony deserves the sales, but i can understand easily why it's selling so well.

>>381001278
I'm bored of your sad attempts at trolling.

>>380995471
Identify pretty rock.

>>381000810

If by "it" do you mean the PS4? I acknowledged that the PS4 is finally getting a decent library but for me, it's too little too late. Not to mention most of the games aren't interesting to me personally. That's obviously a subjective thing.

The main games I want a PS4 for are Spiderman, Nioh and Bloodborne. Almost everything else I want is also on PC or isn't worth buying a console for.

Meanwhile, Nintendo has already announced major entries for Zelda, Mario, Kirby and Metroid all within the first year.

It just seems like Sony was, for a time, comfortable just resting on its laurels since it was the top selling console.

>>381001307
It does seem like shit's polarized now days.
It's either super deluxe pre-order AAA or india stuff on the budged of a hot dog.

Can't blame them, though. It's so hard to be noticed nowdays you can't have a sizeable budget unless you KNOW it will do fine in the market.

>>381001884
Mainstream appeal was a mistake

>>380995064
>the PlayStation 4 doesn't deserve the amount of sales it gotten sine 2013.
Word.
Besides the ps4 is tracking behind the PS2 and Wii, so it's really nothing special.

>>381000623
360/ps3 era when mediocre midtier devs died

It does since MS and Nintendo only decided to start competing this year. Here's to the future, I guess.

>>380999547

I feel like Wii had a better first year lineup. Twilight Princess, Trauma Center, Elebits, Metroid Prime 3, Zack & Wiki, Super Mario Galaxy. And let's be honest here, everyone thought Wii Sports was fun for at least a week. People shit on it because the console fizzed out after a few years and was always treated as a gimmick machine but its first 18 months on the market had some fucking games - No More Heroes, Mario Kart Wii and Super Smash Bros. Brawl weren't too far off from the first year mark either.

>>381001307

Fuck I miss middle budget games so much. This and Chaos Legion and Seaman and shit. You had so much creativity then because the risk wasn't as big but you still got decent to great games made by competent devs.

>>381001459
Realgar

>>381002120

Vita was basically budget games: the handheld.

>>381002120
I feel like it ate up the whole racing genre. Racing threads here are mostly nostalgia trips on days gone.

>>381001742
>If by "it" do you mean the PS4?

Why would I? PS4 is getting plenty of games in July. I'm not talking about exclusives. As if those are the only games that "count". People don't buy consoles for exclusives. That's the thing you dweebs don't seem to understand. I don't play Nintendo games on my 3DS. There used to be a time you could buy a Nintendo console without having to like their games too. Guess what? I don't. Now Nintendo has their nose up their asses thinking their some kind of prodigy or something.

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>>381001935
It wouldn't be so bad if not for the fact that good ideas either are prostituted in big studios in order to have mass appeal and meet ridiculous sales expectations or not having the resources to make it flourish in a garage somewhere.

At least those were games with a fucking soul. Something that would require either a big company with balls or an indie with extreme passion and talent, both of which are rarer than a shiny pokemon.

>>381001972
>Besides the ps4 is tracking behind the PS2 and Wii

https://www.psu.com/news/32113/PS4-is-still-outpacing-the-PS2-as-shipments-reach-new-milestone

http://metro.co.uk/2017/01/24/ps4-has-a-better-software-attach-rate-than-ps2-and-wii-6402140/

>>381001972
>tracking behind two of the biggest outliers
duh

>>380995064
Maybe but other consoles are much much worse so people didn't have a choice

>>381002397
I get that, and I'm not gonna be one of those retards who screech "W-WEEB GAME". The problem is though that a lot of those games pander to the otaku demographic, they may be middle budget but they're still desperately reaching for sales and appeal.

>>381002597
>shipments
not total sales
>attach rate
also not total sales, that's a ratio of games per unit sold

>>381002397

My problem with th Vita is that they were always games I'd have enjoyed more on a console so they felt gimped to me.

>>381002459

Exclusives are what largely sell consoles nowadays though, especially with PC gaming becoming more accessible than ever. Yes, lots of people buy console's for the low cost of entry and ease of use, but even then, how do you decide which console to get when they're more or less evenly matched if not by the exclusives?

Especially now when we're getting these weird ass incremental upgrades across companies.

>>381000628
>Yeah it's a poor sequel to a series that was never all that great to begin with.
Nigger.
>and Splatoon.
Talk about something never being good. Muh squids though, am I right?

>>381002729
60 million consoles sold, tons of software sold as well

Come on kid, PS4 is obliterating the competition

>>381002894
Not the same thing as "outpacing the ps2 and wii"

>>381002862
>Exclusives are what largely sell consoles nowadays though
reminder that not one exclusive made it into the top ten best sellers of last year

>>381002997

So what's your theory then on how users select which console to buy?

>>381002987
But they are outpacing them.

>>381002997
>games available on more than one console have higher total sales than games available only on one
No fucking shit.

>>381002997
Incidentally, exclusives tend to be the worst games available 9 out of 10 times given their western pandering. Only console warriors care.

>>380995186
fpbp
xbone and nintendo fucked up and only now did what they should have done at the start of the generation.

>>381002862
>Exclusives are what largely sell consoles nowadays though
dotheoppositeofwhatvsays.jpg

>>381002997
delet!

It's not too hard when your competition goes out of their way to make their own product launches look as unappealing as possible

>>381003189
He's not talking about total sales.

>>381003247
>exclusives tend to be the worst games available 9 out of 10 times given their western pandering
wat
multiplats are way more pandering
literally every /pol/ triggering game is a multiplat

>>381003110
1. has most games
2. has most AAA games
3. has my friendos
4. has exclusives
5. has best graphics
6. has reasonable price (<$400)

>>381003556
>top ten best sellers
>not sales

>>380995064
As Nintendo fan I agree. It's not fucking fair.

>>380995313
Literally this

>>380995064
>flaky online that you're paying top dollar for
>a fucking terrible range of exclusives 4 years after being launched
>no cross platform play
>no bc, but the chance to pay for the same games again at a higher framerate because you're a bunch of self-hating cucks

it deserved less sales than the piece of shit that was the vita.

>>381003620
I'm not talking about politics, though that applies as well. I'm talking about gameplay. And all the western titles are garbage, which make up 90% of the exclusives. Then you're left with the remaining 10% of moon content, which usually ends up being Vitard garbage like Gravity Rush, Digimon and such which this board will SWEAR is good, much like drones hyped up all that garbage on the Wii U when it had about 6 games worth a shit total. half of them niche.

>>381003680
Of each console, Nintendo aside obviously.

>>381003654

>1. has most games
If exclusives aren't a factor, this is moot.

>2. has most AAA games
Are above

>3. has my friendos
How do you and your friends determine which console to buy in the first place?

>4. has exclusives
Yup.

>5. has best graphics
Fair, though as I noted, this is becoming harder and harder to discern with manufacturers coming out with these mid-gen upgrades.

>6. has reasonable price (<$400)
Largely irrelevant as consoles tend to try and pace each other in pricing. Granted, this gen X1 fucked up by including the Kinect no one wanted for $100 which could have contributed to the initial install base on the PS4.

>>381003907
>>no cross platform play
That's a plus, pcbro.

>crossplatform play with pirates and hackers

>>380997075
Microsoft basically hampered themselves on the Xbone from the get-go
>Initial announcement included draconian DRM policies
>Forced inclusion of Kinect added another $100 to the price tag
>Lack of games was nail in the coffin

Meanwhile Sony learned from the PS3 launch while Microsoft seemed to replicate it.

>>381003907
>no cross platform play
FFXIV, DCUO, Rocket League, and (future update) Minecraft come to mind.

>>381002279
I'm really gar for it.

>>381004152
Most people outside of /v/ or similar circles don't care about exclusives that much.

>>380995794
>>380995186
>having exclusives makes it a good console
it is worse than the xbox in every possible way
>no backwards compatibility
>paid online
>successor is only slightly better

>>381005393

But PS4 has at least a few games. Xbone has Sunset Overdrive at a stretch and...?

>>381005393
>>having exclusives makes it a good console
On /v/, that's exactly what makes a good console.
If you're not a video game enthusiast and only own a single platform, you should leave this place and join the subreddit for that specific system.
Console = exclusives
PC = multiplats

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PS4
>has the most games
>the best controller
>the best performance/price ratio

But it doesn't deserves its sales....

But the overpriced Nintendo console with absolute shit hardware, overpriced, no 3rd party support, no MONSTER HUNTER and the same old franchise milkage... Now this one deserves the sales, right?

When did /v/ become this retarded?

>>380995064
It DIDN'T, now it's fine.

>>380995064
Yeah. Switch is infinitely worse from that point of view, though.

>>380995313
>>360 was $100 cheaper than ps3 at launch
>>wins

the 360 was fucked in the ass in sales with one year more in the market.

>>381005803
and every game released on Xbox 360

>>381006054
>When did /v/ become this retarded?
always has been

I own a Switch and it's complete shit, even the Xbone is way better.

>>381005393
>Using paid online as a criticism when every console has that now
Only valid when comparing to PC

>>381006247

Switch has only been out for 3 months, not 3 and a half years. And honestly, those first 3 months are looking much better than PS4's. Still not on board personally but let's not forget that PS4 was hardly worth shit outside of Bloodborne until this year. We'll see what Switch does with its first 3 years on the market in time but I suspect it won't be as bad as PS4's.

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>>380995064
Y-YEAH, IT'S JUST NOT FAIR!

>>381006352

So Halo 3, Mass Effect 1 and...? Have Kameo and Perfect Dark Zero aged well? Sorry, I was never much of an Xbox guy.

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This is seriously the best home console to come from this generation. The WiiU has it's faults but it shits on the competition. Xbone floundered the entire time the WiiU was alive and PS4 got some sales and Sony instantly got lazy and fat at the top of the food chain.
WiiU was the only one that just played video games and tried to get you to buy it by having fun games on it. Switch is laughably stupid apple tier expensive for what it is and what the peripherals/controllers are.
>Smash 4
>Mario Maker
>3D World
>Mario and Luigi U
>Mario Kart 8 (Deluxe is botched on Switch)
>Captain Toad
>Wooly World
>Dong Freeze
>Kirby: Rainbow Curse
>Breath of the Wild
>Hyrule Warriors
>WW and TP HD
>Splatoon
>Pikmin 3
>Starfox Guard (Can be purchased separate)
>Pokken
>Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE
>Xenoblade Chronicles X
>Nintendoland
>Fatal Frame
>Bayonetta 1 and 2
>Wonderful 101
>Monster Hunter 3U
>Lego City Undercover
>Tekken Tag Tournament WiiU Edition
>Rodea (Wii game packaged as a WiiU game)
>Pushmo World
>Runbow
>Fast Racing Neo
>Affordable Space Adventures
>Good selection of 3rd party Indies (Some with exclusive content and controls to the WiiU version like Trine 2, Shovel Knight, and Severed)
>Also picked up a few wii games I missed (Bit.Trip collection, Tatusnoko vs Capcom, etc) because of true backwards compatibility
>vWii allows for Gamecube games to be played. Something the Switch will NEVER be able to handle
>Pro controller is top tier
>WiiU Gamepad surprisingly comfortable and great for games in bed
>Gamecube adapter is the best peripheral of all time, doubles as an easy ticket to playing Dolphin with the correct controllers solo or multiplayer
>Entire Zelda library available besides ALBW and the CDI games
>The only console currently capable of good DS emulation because of the touch screen
>Easy as fuck to hack, just have to connect to the internet
Call me when another console from this gen has a list of offerings like this.

>>380995194
Are you implying ryse is better than knack?

>>380995186
More sales. Less games

>>381006659

WiiU was the best console in its timeframe - from 2013 - 2016 PS4 and Xbone were bad jokes while WiiU at least put out an interesting game once every few months. None of them were great but in those dark times WiiU was the least awful. But hey, PS4 finally got it together and Nintendo seems to be working on getting Switch up to speed so cool, things are better now. It's fine at the moment.

>>380995064
Unfortunately you get to decide what it deserves. The consumer do and it looks like they feel it deserves it.

>>381006468
>And honestly, those first 3 months are looking much better than PS4's

How? Both only had 1 shitty exclusive at this point (Arms and Killzone) but PS4 had bigger third party support, much better looking games and better price to performance ratio. If anything Switch is doing much worse than PS4 first months.

>>381006659
If multiplats and ports count PS4 is much better.

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>>381007107
>If multiplats and ports count
Not without exclusive content/controls.

>>381006731
are you implying that it isn't?

>>380995064
>8 times as many games
people buy ps4s to play just 8 games?

>>381006948

Eh, for 3 years straight I looked at what the PS4 had, then looked at my PS3 and Vita and could not find a reason to bother. Same with Switch - BotW was there but I had a WiiU for Fatal Frame and Bayonetta so fuck it. The launch period's a rough time in general but at least I'm catching wind of things this early for Switch that interest me - No More Heroes 3, Metroid Prime 4, Super Mario Odyssey. PS4 was a nonentity for me until both Gravity Rush 2 and the console dropped considerably in price - I still don't think it's worth $400 now but I got mine for $260 with some of that covered by a gift card so yeah, I'll pay that for a few exclusives. Turned out that PS4 got good shortly after and now everything's cool. Kinda waiting on Switch for similar reasons but I think that moment will come sooner and because, based on what I've seen, games will dictate my attention instead of an attractive price point. I see a lot more upcoming support that I actually care about, I'm just waiting for it to actually be out.

>>381006352
That's not how bc works you know.

>>381006468
The switch at zero(0) games isn't competing with 2013's PS4.

>>380995064
Blame Microsoft fucking up so hard that even the jews at EA and Activision went over to Sony

>>381006948
>three subjective opinions
>one fact
>THIS IS THE TRUTH STOP ARGUING WITH ME
Seriously, idort master race here. You are fucking dumb.

>>381007258
You are right, WiiU ports runs exclusively shit.

>>381005167

So then, once again, what differentiates the consoles?

>>381008024

I guess it did have Killzone and Knack for whatever that means to someone.

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Sony always win baby.

>>380995064
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-M1vqazx3c

>>381008497
>opinions

Are you trying to tell me that Switch has better third party and games looks better there? How mentally challenged you can be?

>>380995186
>good
>this gen

lol I'm SO fucking happy I haven't bought a console this gen. God damn it has been the absolute worst.I remember laughing when I saw the graphical "jump" for the first time with the ps4 and xbox one. There's literally only two games worth playing that are console exclusives and that's botw and bloodborne and I played botw on my computer. Console gaming just needs to die.

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>>381008526
Oh wow you sure showed me anon! Your witty retort definitely counters my massive list of games.

Yakuza alone is worth a ps4. Plan on buying Yakuza on PlayStation even if it comes out on PC

He was always ahead of his time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQuDAW06Og0

>>380995194
>Wii U had Mario at launch
NSMBU was trash

>>381007894
yes

>>380995064
sony telling their consumers what they want is very arrogant of them

>>381008972
Only thing trash about the WiiU New! games is that artstyle. Mario and Luigi U have sublime 2 Mario gameplay.

>>381006352
So why not buy a 360 instead.
Hell you could get both an OG and a 360 and still pay less than a Bone, and have better games and 100% compatibility.

>>380998793
nigger

>>381009085
Luigi U was barely different from NSMBU, I don't get why everyone pretends its good
It doesn't even use new assets

>>381008882
Your massive list of games has ports and multiplats and is completely dwarfed by PS4 libary.

What do you expect, no "for entertainment" product does.

>>380995064
It didn't, until this year. 2017 has been strong so far. I've actually started to play the fucking thing. If the Switch line up stays strong too, i'll end up playing my consoles over my PC, nearly 100% of the time.

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>>380995913

>>380995186
It was literally worse than the PS3 at launch. And basically all of its games were developed for the PS3 too. And in many cases it just resulted in games that were meant for the PS3, to be delayed and or dropping from the PS3 altogether.
Add to this that a PS+ subscription was made required for online play. Even for games that don't use any of Sony's servers, or even servers at all. And how the instant games collection for PS+ became total ass with the move to the PS4 as well.

The PS4 has been nothing but an outright insult to actual Sony fans. But people just ate it up. And now these annual subscriptions are making Sony more money than actual game and hardware sales. While establishing it as an industry standard. It's all a huge fucking joke.

Nothing improved with the PS4. Things were better the last generation.

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>>381009268
>Bayo 1
>TP and WW HD
Yeah you're right. Whole console ruined.

Fuck, how did I not notice before?

>>380998793
>all this *also on pc

>>381009372
unsourced numbers are fun

>>381009617
>"d delete this! sony always wins!"

>>381009268
> dwarfed by PS4 libary
that's debatable considering the Ps4 just got good games a few months ago that wasn't multiplat AAA western garbage people pretend is good due to "good" story

>>381009679
I didn't say anything of the sort anon

>>381009385
No that Tekken Tag and Lego City are cool reasons to buy WiiU too. PS4 don't stand a chance.

>>380996464

5 hours? What kind of shit controller are you using, kid? My ps4 controller doesn't even get close to dying until after about 15/20 hours. Then just charge it for an hour and you're good.

>>381009712
>that's debatable considering the Ps4 just got good games a few months ago

Well, if we are using our personal opinions as arguments now PS4 got good games why WiiU none. I mean I liked jumping Mario and Pokemon stuff when I was toddler too, but that's past.

>>380997671

Like they did after the ps2.
>ps2 still most sold console of all time with the biggest and best video game library.

They're allowed to be complacent when their shit actually works and has exclusives worth playing.

At the end of the day, the ps4 is still a gaming console while the Xbox is a "media" Console.

Only people who bother with the Xbox are using it for streaming and blurays, or halo/gears.

>>380997717

>Pointless flashlight
You mean the light that gives visual feedback about profiles, skills, health, and other things?

>useless TouchPad
Better then motion controls, bud.

The switch is gimmicky as all fuck friend.

>>381009205
Because NSMBU was good, more levels of the same thing was also good.

>>381007258
>Not without exclusive content/controls.
Wii U ports has none of those

>>381011135
>Because NSMBU was good
lol

Thank God for Sony, this gen would've been awful if it were only MS and Nintendo.

>>381011434
ttt2
bayonetta
shovel knight

>>381011762
Bayonetta 1 just has new costumes, it doesn't have new gameplay mechanics or weapons or anything.

>>381011135
>NSMBU

If you don't think reading that is cancer, please kill yourself then. "New" games were a mistake.

>>380995913
In the long run, but to do that had to reduce the price to 300, remove stuff like SD card support and retro compatibility with PS2 and update the default drive to 500gb.

>>381011867
>exclusive content/controls

>content
The Power Suit for example lets you use Samus' cannon and charge shots. The Link one lets you use the Hylian Shield and Master Sword. The Fox costume gives you Arwing guns.
>controls
Touch controls

>>381012418
>The Power Suit for example lets you use Samus' cannon and charge shots.
That's a just reskinned version of Bayo's bullets, its just aesthetic changes
>The Link one lets you use the Hylian Shield and Master Sword. The Fox costume gives you Arwing guns.
Again, those are all just aesthetic changes, they aren't new mechanics
>Touch controls
I guess that's true, but that's just the baby mode.

>>381012578
>That's a just reskinned version of Bayo's bullets, its just aesthetic changes
Bayonetta can't charge her normal guns.
>Again, those are all just aesthetic changes, they aren't new mechanics
No, you can parry without the Moon of Maha-Kalaa. So you can basically equip another accessory for free.

All of them have different behaviour from everything else in the game. They're as different from the default weapons as the some of the default weapons are from each other.

>I guess that's true, but that's just the baby mode.
It's new controls either way. Some might even say it's an exclusive difficulty modifier. Definitely a gameplay change.

>>380995194
>he thinks most people buy consoles for exclusives

nah

>>380995913
360 was still the better console, PS3 only got more sales after the generation was all ready over by selling weebshit to japs. 360 Completely ass raped PS3 in the west till the last 2-3 years of its life, only then Sony started getting its shit together and actually getting some games.

>>381006451

No because only sony and ms price it at 60 dollars

Nintendo's 20 bucks a year is much more acceptable