>"When we've dabbled with backwards compatibility,

There's a software mode PSP, PS1 and PS2 emulator hidden in the PS3 firmware for ages.
It's only used for PSN titles... (except for the PS1 one ofcourse)

>>380981495
Either go find the Original PlayStation 3 with the four ports which almost doesn't exist anymore since they stopped making those almost entirely before making one with the two ports or go get a PlayStation 2 and 1

Bulk or slim it doesn't matter both PlayStation 2 consoles works well.

>>380981753
Or install CFW, then it can suddenly run PSP and PS2 games no matter the version of PS3. Compatibility rate is impacted though.

>>380981858
CFW?

What's that?

>sony anti-consumer "it's not on when x does it" shitposts increase 10fold after an e3 they clearly won
really percolates the pecans

>>380981495
Of course all of my ps3 games are hd collections and I still spend time on my ps2 games. Fuck corporate

>>380982051
But anon, OP is right.

You can't deny that sony pulled the jew trick on it's fans by not allowing the PlayStation 3 to play it's old games meanwhile the xbox 360 can play almost any kind of old xbox games.

It has nothing to do with competition, it has to do with giving what the fans want and sony shit on it's own fans with that stunt.

>>380982021
Custom Firmware, I'm playing powerstone for the PSP rather dandily on my PS3.

>>380981495
>acting surprised that modern companies do these bullshit acts and focus too much on competition instead of it's own dedicated fans in today's times
>not just going to your local store and purchasing old consoles and play real video games that was actually made for fun and gameplay without the bullshit that we have to deal with modern games now

It's almost as if old generation games and consoles was actually made to be fun and enjoyable by the company that actually gave a shit back then before the company and gaming industry went to shit.

>>380982350
so the fact that nintendo is porting everything from the wii u to the switch and microsoft is putting every x box game on windows isn't a slap in the face to someone who bought either of those consoles?

lmao ok

>>380981495
but nintendo and microsoft care about you

>>380982573
How do you do that?

I only got the original ps3 with the two ports and I mainly use it for bluray dvd movies but plan on getting ps2 for the old ace combat games.

>>380982781
Obvious troll/shill detected

Old ps1/2 actually gave a shit unlike ps3/4

>>380982815
If you got a big wallet full of cash maybe

>>380981495
Don't tell me what I want you cunt. Give me Timesplitters 2/FP

>>380982871
Depends on your firmware version. If it's < 3.55 it's as easy as plugging in a USB stick with the proper firmware and go for it.

If it's higher then you're going to need some more time/help.

>>380982726
what's the best old generation console?

>Ape Escape died for Knack to live

I'd actually buy a PS4 if it could play PS3 discs

>>380983509
Preferably anything before ps3/xbox360 era.

>>380981495
They're right about PS1 and PS3 BC. No 3D PS1 game is worth playing today. No, not even that one. And PS3 has no games that weren't ported to PS4 anyway. PS2, though, has such an insanely huge library of classics, that have never been ported or remade, that it's very silly for him to wonder where the demand comes from.

Nintendo64 is the ultimate old console and it pushes all other old consoles out of the way you nerds!

>>380984805
It still amazes me that on the Wikipedia that PlayStation 3 can play any and all PlayStation 1 and 2 games yet here we are in reality knowing that there is only one kind of PlayStation 3 that can play old games and it wasn't even in major production to begin with soit's stupidly hard to find it.

>>380985367
Wait it actually says that the PlayStation 3 can play any old games?

Please someone tell me it's fixable and we can actually fix it so that it isn't blatantly lying.

>>380981495
But only 1.5% of xbone games played are backwards compatible. Why spend so much money on a feature that gamers ignore?


https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/06/backward-compatible-xbox-360-games-are-less-than-2-of-xbox-one-usage-time/

>>380981753
I live in a 3rd world country and ps3's are abundant

>>380985771
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_and_PlayStation_2_games_compatible_with_PlayStation_3

>>380985992
Then pack up and move to United States or the U.K. if your a muzzie no offense

>>380981495
Why cant they just say 'we want to resell those games to you again to make more money' instead of coming up with utterly pathetic excuses that only make them look like complete fucking dickheads?

>>380985913
This is apparently wrong, MS and Arstechnica have come out and said, but I still think its a feature that most people don't really use. Just a point people care about.

Like, if their DVD players played VHS or something...

>>380986329
What if their excuse is the truth?

>>380986093
dumb phoneposter

>>380986614
What does a link have to do with a stupid phone?

>>380986884
en.m.wikipedia

>>380985771
You need to CFW for PS1/PS2 gaming because Sony realised you could jailbreak PS3s with it and GNU/Linux mode.

Party poopers.

>>380981858
Isn't there some weird workaround for PSP games to work on OFW or is that only for homebrew?

>>380986329
>because they diverged from the company that used to make fun games and promote fun and happiness in it's own fans into a company that only cares about stupid competition with microsoft and nintendo and want nothing but money from it's fans.

>>380984805
>PS2, though, has such an insanely huge library of classics
Name some

>>380987360
Google it, bitch

>"When we've dabbled with backwards compatibility, I can say it is one of those features that is much requested, but not actually used much," Ryan told Time.
To be fair he's not wrong about this
Only a small percentage of people ACTUALLY use backwards compatibility. I mean I would if it had it, but most gamers don't really care about older games

>>380982051
OP is right. The moment the PS4 Pro was released without backwards compatibility, everyone knew it was going to fail massively.

We're at a point where the people that wanted a PS4 already own one, but Sony keeps coming up with gimmicks to have us buy a second for absolutely no reason.

>>380982051
>Sony
>winning E3

LOL. They had the worst conference of the big three. And I own a PS4.

Objectively:
1. nintendo
2. Microsoft
3. Sony

>>380987509
>implying MSs 42 timed exclusive Indie games were better than Spiderman, God of War, Monster Hunter, Shadow of the Colossus and Detroid

Let me guess, delusional Americuck?

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Reminder that Sonnyggers just don't care.

>>380981698
it's also dogshit
t. CFW PS3 owner

>>380987509
kek
sony had tons of games, half with new gameplay reveals, actual exclusives, and only 2 short segments of talking and a musical piece (go ahead and compare the games vs talking ratio for each of the three conferences)

>>380987848
No cross platform for major multiplayer games.

"We held back at E3" damage control.

Raise the price of PS+, doesn't improve the service.

>>380987848
>Sonybros actually enjoy new high quality games every months instead of bitching about the lack of pointless shit tier featues

Yeah really makes the neurons tingle.

>>380981495
Too bad he's not wrong. Gamers are shit.

>>380982051

All polls had nintendo first and most had sony after xbox. Even the official one's on /v/ and the one made by geoff

Try again sonybro

>>380988013
>exclusives
Outside of their VR and Spider-Man, they had nothing. Everything else is multiplatform.

>>380988013
Sony's conference was almost a complete rehash of last year's complete with no concrete release dates for most of the games they had previously shown the year prior

sony back to being the enemy now that they have the weakest consoles on the market.

thank god.

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>>380982051
Depends on what you mean.

Xbox one is BC with 360 games not xbox games. We'll see if that changes.

At the end of the day copyright fuckery would prevent people playing all the obscure PS2 JRPGs and VNs legally anyway so I don't really care.

ITT butthurt fags that lost the E3 event and shilling hard for xbox and nintendo.

Sony won and that's final butthurt fags.

>>380988393
God of War
Detroit
Days Gone
SotC REmake
Stay delusional though.

>>380982815
Microsoft does backwards compatibility. In Switch'es case, the lack of bc is completely reasonable because its a portable console that uses cartridges instead of optical discs.

Convince me to get a CFW PS3.

>>380988862
>Xbox one is BC with 360 games not xbox games. We'll see if that changes.
>But not xbox games
They literally announced that at E3

Kind of pointless when there's a gorillion games on the 360 they need to make BC but whatever they're doing it i guess

>>380988943
Don't forget the ultimate NEVER EVER BUT JUST FOR YOU of Monster Hunter coming home. Still makes me chuckle.

>>380988943
My wallet says otherwise. I have 3 PS4 games preordered and 10 Switch games preordered.

>>380982781
>x box game on windows isn't a slap in the face to someone who bought either of those consoles?
What do you lose when a game on your platform gets released on another platform? That's right, nothing. Exclusivity is an anit-consumer practice and celebrating it is clear evidence you've been brainwashed by corporations.

>>380989367
I lose face, dude.

>Investing money in a digital library
If you're going to do that, why not just emulate at that point?

Also
>PS2 games
You niggers should be rushing to pick up every title you want, to secure your ideal collection. Prices are rising thanks to LukieGames and ShitStop attempting to make a comeback with "retro" games.

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>>380981495
>GT1

>>380989367
So you agree that instead of PS4 having no games it has the most games of this generation or the last outside of PC?

>>380989367
>quoting a PR spokesman for a corporation nearly word for word
>implying everyone but you is brainwashed

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>>380989202
They anounced ONE BC game. An old Microsoft title.

See that's my point: all the old games I would want to play again won't happen. Backward compatibility is useless unless you want to play old call of duty.

I'll eat crow if Breakdown shows up on the list.

>>380990398
Defend exclusivity from the standpoint of a consumer.

>>380987057
nah ps1 games work without CFW

>>380990613
>being Microsoft's© cockholster
We know they're not paying you in games because Microsoft doesn't have any.

>>380981495
What's the problem? Because he is right, even though he is a shitty merketer.
The new Xbox BC is a piece of shit, only good BC on consoles were done like, 2 fucking times.
Once on PS2 and once on SNES but you needed to buy additional accessory.
They shill the BC on xbox so hard but it's useless really, save money and buy 50$ xbox and play every game rather then 500$ and play only few ones selected by MS.
In a perfect word, sure BC on consoles would have been amazing, but considering how Xbox, 360 and Sony PS2, PS3 were build, it's just hard to do BC right to work out of the box just like it did with PS2 for PS1 games.

>>380989083
>have to list a remake and and zombie survival game in defense
KEK

>>380991107
So you have absolutely no argument and need to resort to shitposting and making assumptions about me. I don't like Microsoft for their Windows 10 jewry but that does not mean they aren't in the right by supporting backwards compatibility. Hitler built a lot of roads too.

>>380990613
Not that anon and not to argue in favor of exclusives, but it's a simple fact not every developer has the resources or the inclination to develop something for every single system, control scheme and/or audience.

>>380991663
>standpoint of a consumer

>>380991383
I don't need an argument when I can just look at the track record of exclusivity and realize that it's good for the industry. Unless you're trying to be misleading and couple exclusivity with backwards compatibility, your spouting of Microsoft's PR man as absolutely no basis in reality. Historical trends clearly illustrate that when a developer becomes looser with an IP that was initially an exclusive, the quality will, more often than not, drastically decrease.

>>380991318
lol what did nintendo have aside from some kiddie shit and a game that wont be released for 5 years?

>>380991892
your ass, bitch

>>380991840
>I don't need an argument
Then why do you even bother posting if you don't have anything to say?

>>380992112
Because reality happens to agree with my perspective. Most of the time a once exclusive IP branches out and sheds its exclusivity, it falters.

You would recognize this if you weren't busy repeating what Microsoft told you to say. I'm also starting to think that you're intentionally being misleading and attempting to conflate "backwards compatibility" and "exclusivity"

>>380981858
I don't understand what this board has against original hardware. There's definitely something novel about it, even maybe playing a bit on nostalgia. I swear though nothing to me will ever beat playing a game on original hardware, and as far as that goes, I'm far more prone to actually finish a game playing on the original hardware than actually emulating it on something.

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>But Sony fans care about high quality stuff!
They objectively don't.

>>380992359
>Still not a single argument
This is getting boring m8, i could just go to /b/ if i wanted to read shitposting.

>>380991892
Super rehash 65, the 65th entry into a rehash they are gonna sell to you for $60, despite similar games to it being either free to play mobile shit or $40 on other platforms.

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>>380987714
>>380988013

>>380992737
>despite similar games to it being either free to play mobile shit or $40 on other platforms.

Okay anon, tell us these super miraculous games like Odyssey, 64, and Sunshine?

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>owning cuckstation products

>>380981858
the ps2 emulator is dogshit unless you're playing a title they released officially

Of course he's right about GT but there are no modern day equivalents to so many PS1 games. Spyro, Tomba, FF 7-8-9, RE 2/3, MM Legends, Parasite Eve, Vagrant Story to name a few. Its library is still relevant in 2017 imo.

>>380981495
Yeah, we get it, Aaron.

Crimson Skies in November! Woohoo! Do I get my 5 rupees now?

>>380987421
>most gamers don't really care about older games
I 100% can't see how anyone believes this. People are still comparing new titles in franchises to ones released in 90s and before, Zelda being the biggest example

Asshurt over Sony winning this gen is just epic.

Why no one complain that Switch don't have BC for example?

>>380992580
But they do. Those are good games.

>>380995462
Because it changed from disc to cartridge, if it was still using regular discs I'm sure a lot more people would be complaining

>>380987714
>QTEfest
>God of My Wife's Son: Escort Mission
>Casualized Monster Hunter
>Remake nobody asked for

>>380995680
>autistic meme's as argument

Why are you so mad?

>>380987848
Maybe they are not underage like MS fans and can play older games on their older systems anytime they want?

>>380996425
That's a retarded thing to say
>Would you rather have 4 different consoles or 1 that can play games from all 4 consoles.

>>380996871
>would you have rather 4 consoles

Like I said most people already own older consoles because they are not 12 yr old.

>>380981495
As shitty as what the guy says it is, recent analysis showed that less than 2% of exox users plays backwards compatible games.
That doesn't look good in the eye of corporate honchos, sadly.

>>380997530
Maybe if microsoft allow xbox one to be bc with every single 360 games then we would be able to play the games we enjoyed on the system.

>I wanted to play ace combat 6 on xbox one reeeeeee

>>380995801
All of those things are valid points with a humorous bent.
Note that I didn't meme on Detroid because it doesn't have any blatant objective flaws.

>>380997310
>most people already own older consoles
That doesn't mean a fucking thing. I have every Sony console, but that doesn't mean I like to have them all plugged it just to play a game from a different gen.

>>380997530
Number is a lot higher. That survey only included 1 million users.

>>380997530
*xbox brain derped hard

>>380997761
Yeah, that's one of the issues. I would love to have one console that plays them all, to be honest, but I don't see myself playing GT4 in 2017 as much as I love it.

>>380997767
>Note that I didn't meme on Detroid because it doesn't have any blatant objective flaws.
David Cage

>>380981495
a sensible decision

and the only sony console I ever owned was the PS2

if you don't like it just download an emulator and play the old games on PC

>>380995462
Who in their right minds would buy a portable console which uses optical discs?

>>380997790
>but that doesn't mean I like to have them all plugged it just to play a game from a different gen.

I don't see how this is problem, 2-3 consoles takes less space than PC. For every non autist plugging console to TV take like 30 seconds for 6-7 years of whole gen.

that still doesnt explain why you have to purchase your digital ps2 games over again on ps4

>>380998416
you don't have to. You can play them on PS2.

>>380982350
>sony pulled the jew trick on it's fans by not allowing the PlayStation 3 to play it's old games

PS2 games*

And they only went as far to drop the manifacturing costs and with it the final price, so if anything it'd be anti-jew.

>>380997310
Older consoles break and so do their accessories. Try finding an original PS2 dualshock controller in mint condition for an acceptable price.

>>380998195
>2-3 consoles takes less space than PC
Now imagine having 6 consoles on a tv and a PC. its a clutter. It would be more convenient to have BC than 6 different consoles.

>>380998961
I still have my old PS2. It all depends how you take care of them. People still play on fucking NES.

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>>380985367
>tfw they all run on borrowed time
>It costs 150€ to repair them (by the official Sony partner)

>>380982871
>>380982021
Hahaha. Oh, God. How old are you?

>>380998961
people just throw those away. i've found some working ps2s and controllers from electronic trash. same with ps1 and xbox

>>380999112
>Now imagine having 6 consoles

If I want to play all PlayStation games I need like 1 or 2 consoles to my PS4.

> on a tv

I always thought people put their consoles on shelf.

>>380999185
Consumer electronics have planned obsolescence. I have my old PS2 too, but the laser went to shit because that's just how Sony cut their corners. Also a fuse in it broke and vibration no longer works either.

>>380982350
>xbox 360 can play almost any kind of old xbox games

Easy, now

>>380991315
>SNES
You mean Genesis.

Also, GBA.

>>380981495
>Like why would anyone play this
This guy sounds like a faggot underageb&.

>>380999380
>who cares about backwards compatibility just dig through trash #4theplayers

>>380999449
Well, that's your problem not mine. Works fine for me.

>>380999554
>Who cares about backwards compatibility, just spend some more money on the games WE tell you to play

>>380999651
>Electronics breaking due to age is not a problem for consumers because it still works for me
woah i hate backwards compatibility now

>>380999836
every hardware can break, new also.

>>380999370
Found the bridge troll.

>>380999953
really makes you think

>>380999227
>that image

But why?
Source? haha

>>380999953
If not taken care by warranty/support you can at least buy one new off stores, you can't quite do that with old systems.

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>>381000014
Oh, God. You're so transparent

Sony is retarded but I partially agree with the general point.
I have 3 PS3's in my house now and I have absolutely no desire to spend money on PS3 hardware built into my PS4 or have them throw money away on software solutions just to be able to play PS3 games with bugs.
Keep the consoles cheap, invest in a new game instead.

>>380999389
>If I want to play all PlayStation games I need like 1 or 2 consoles to my PS4.
What about Xbox and Nintendo? I want to play those games too, so that's another 3 or 4 consoles not including this gen's consoles.

>>380987509
>nintendo #1
That's a weird way to spell Devolver!

>>381000340
they could take some code monkey, hand all the documentation of PS2 over to him and tell him to make a PS2 emulator for PS4. total cost would be less than a million dollars so absolutely nothing at all, but then they wouldn't be able to sell the PS2 games a second time so they'd lose because they couldn't scam their consumers any longer.

>>381000551
>or have them throw money away on software solutions just to be able to play PS3 games with bugs.
What you're describing is exactly what happened with PS2 classics and they still jewed it out by not letting you use the emulator freely unless you hacked your ps3.

>>381000410
>What about Xbox and Nintendo? I want to play those games too, so that's another 3 or 4 consoles not including this gen's consoles.

I don't think it's Sony or "Sony" fans fault that Nintendo or MS don't have BC.

If you are enthusiast who still somehow feel urge to play Halo 1 on Xbox constantly, space for couple consoles shouldn't be a problem.

>>380981495
Why would you want backwards compatibility when you can still by the previous gen consoles in store for $40 if you never owned one and if you were dumb enough to sell your old system while keeping your old games that's your fault and you can't get mad at sony or microsoft for your stupidity. Also a reminder that consoles with built in backwards compatibility break a lot sooner than a console designed to play only new titles.

>>380988158
>pointless shit tier featues
Yes, I too enjoy having to rebuy all of my games that I purchased once before if I wish to legally enjoy them on my new console. Inshallah Sony brother.

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>>381000890
People like you are the reason emulation and piracy exist

>>380989131
>nintendo constantly switches what tyoe of physical software is used from console to console, relasing a console every fucking year with maybe ten games on it
>clearly do that shit on purpose
>but no see its okay because nintendo designed so that my wii u disk cant fit in my switch and my n64 cart cant fit in my gamecube, see?!

>>381001031

>Also a reminder that consoles with built in backwards compatibility break a lot sooner than a console designed to play only new titles.
[citation needed]

>>381000890
Mm yea. People who play older games usually have the means to do that. Either have the old consoles or use emulation.

>>381001216
Yeah, sorry for not being underage and starting gaming adventure 4 years ago.

>>380986492
>Like, if their DVD players played VHS or something...

Its not like that at all, its like a company selling a DVD player that won't play The Lion King because its old.

"We find that older films are much requested, but not actually watched much. I was at a film festival where they were showing Gone With The Wind and the new Wonder Woman, and Gone With The Wind, it looked ancient, like why would anybody watch this?"

>>380992580
wow it's almost as if games that let you play with your friends are popular, who could of guessed

>>380997790
Are you really so fucking lazy that you can't just unplug one console and plug in another

People forget that BC just didn't work well with the original PS3 models. And there's a reason why PS3 BC on PS4 is not a thing.

That being said, "streaming" games with ps Now is terrible

>>381002153

>People forget that BC just didn't work well with the original PS3 models.
It worked just as well as it did on a slim PS2.

>>381001547
I'm fairly certain you're the underage one at this point since that's you're only explanation for liking BC

>>381002535
Pretty sure I explained why many people don't care about BC. If your only argument is name calling only underage person must be you. Which make sense since you don't have older systems.

>>381001226
Incredibly poor arguing. Portable optical media is retarded stupid and it would have made Switch unnecessarilu large as well. PS4 already has a blu-ray drive so the only reason to not include BC is greed.
>nintendo constantly switches what tyoe of physical software is used from console to console, relasing a console every fucking year with maybe ten games on it
This is not true. Wii was backwards compatible with GC and Wii U was backwards compatible with Wii. 3DS is backwards compatible with DS.

>>381002783
>If your only argument is name calling only underage person must be you
Pot calling the kettle black

>>381002023
>implying
I use switches upon switches so that I never need to plug them, but that doesn't mean I like doing it that way.

>>380981495
How come the XboxOne has great BC tho?

>>380981495
Yeah, they're being difficult on purpose. GT is a horrible example, because the only reason to revisit those games is to revisit a busted old driving engine for the fun.

But there are countless games with different systems that are timeless, even if there visuals aren't.

>>381003856
Because Xbox consoles are designed by sane people and Playstation consoles are designed to be insane.

>>380997767
>All of those things are valid points

Ok, let's pretend this was serious

>QTE fest

QTE takes up like couple of seconds for whole gameplay. Literally 1% of game.

>God of My Wife's Son: Escort Mission

It's confirmed that Kratos have biological son (what kind of autistic counter argument is that anyway?). I also don't see problem how main charatcer having partner make game bad.

>Casualized Monster Hunter

Why? According to who?

>Remake nobody asked for

Source? You made some poll voting? Another thing out of ass.

Anything else?

>>381003856
Because MS needs to win back people's heart.

Even if BC is a barely used feature, its still a feature nonetheless and good one at that. The PS4 not having BC wouldn't really piss me off if the Sony head's weren't such cunts about it saying shit like "....they looked ancient, like why would anybody play this?"

I dont really give a shit about BC, what REALLY triggers the shit out of me is the fact that I need to pay fucking ps+ to acces MY FUCKING SAVES, fuck sony so much

>>381004607
That's one of the best fucking features I love on the Xbone.
My saves are on the cloud so that I can go to my friend's house and play with my saves there without needing gold. Too fucking bad they didn't change it for the 360 games, so I can't play my 360 games on the Xbone unless im gold.

He's not totally wrong, but there's another angle to it. The reason I don't utilize BC and keep using my old consoles is because my saves never fucking carry over and I don't want to redo all the impossible shit I somehow pulled off in highschool

>>380987509
Sorry, but as someone who owns only Nintendo and would never touch another console with a 12 foot horse cock, Nintendo had the shittiest showing of the past 5 years. It was laughably bad.
>ITS A GIF FILE OF A FOUR
kill me

>>381003409
Nintendo ds had a gameboy advanced slot
Nintendo 3ds didnt because????

Wii requires use of a gamecube controller and is not compatible with a wiimote or correct me if my memory is wrong a classic controller extension because?????
Wii u couldnt play gamecube games because????????
Your cherry picking is good in fanboy land but not here, jap worshiping manchild
Sorry for ad hom. I just cant stand nintendos bullshit

>>381006713
>nintendo consoles have limited BC so they're just as bad as having no BC at all
...really?

>>380988862
>Xbox one is BC with 360 games not xbox games. We'll see if that changes.
boy bet you feel dumb right now

>>380985913
>posting fake news

>>380987509
>all these butthurt roaches replying angrily
holy fuck they still can't get over they got smoked this E3

>>380996425
you are really fucking stupid, do you know that? The whole point of BC is to play your older games on the newer system so you can put the older system away

>>380997530
that was confirmed fake news

>>380987509
Nintendo won handily but Microsoft shit the bed so hard I actually feel bad for them.

>Needed a blowout to save themselves
>Delivered a car, timed exclusive indies and $499

>>381006889
To me anon, yes.

>>380992415
Free emulation on a system you already own is much more viable and convenient than buying a separate system. Hardcore collectors and enthusiasts might like buying old consoles but for the average person who only cares about playing the games there's no point.

>>381004861
I know that feel

>>380983509
Sega Genesis

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>>380987360
I can name 20 JRPGs on the PS2 but then in typical /v/ fashion your retort would be "those are all shit".