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Now that the hype's died down we can all agree that this was a so-so open world game and a bad Zelda game, yes?
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No.
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To an extent. The DLC doesn't have any appeal to me, either.

Still better than Skyward Sword, leagues better.
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>>380943024
careful, you'll earn the wrath of nintendo babbies
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Kill yourself ACfag, Zelda BotW will never stop being a masterpiece no matter how much you shitpost.
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>>380943094
yes.
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>>380943024
No.
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>>380943024
I disagree
it's a 9.9/10 game for me
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>>380943024
I just started playing it the other day. I did two shrines and I'm already bored. Is this just a walking simulator?
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>>380943024
Nah, I played it on wii u and I'm gonna buy it again for switch + the dlc and play it again in master mode ;)
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>>380943024
Its probably the best open world game.

That doesn't mean much because 90% of open world games suck shit
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>>380943365
>guy has an awesome webm
>shitposting troll has shitposting
Hmmm... really activates my almonds
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>>380943446
>Is this just a walking simulator?
That is a large part of it yes. It was clearly heavily inspired by Journey.
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>>380943446

It's neat for a bit but then you realize there's not much to do in this big open world. Plus you have to grind ingredients to make potions and constantly juggle inventory screens because your weapons and armor break every 5 seconds.

There are only 4 main dungeons and they are RIDICULOUSLY easy, especially if you get the Master Sword before going in. I beat them in 15 minutes. If you have the Master Sword you can just walk up to a boss and swat it a couple times until it dies.

Plus all the dungeons have the same boring aesthetic. There's nothing visually interesting about them. They all just have a dull brown look to them. It sucks.
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>>380943024
Nah it's one of the best games of the decade.
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>>380943672
Clearly didn't explore the open world if you didn't think there is a lot to do. 100 hours in and I'm still finding new things that aren't just new shrines.
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>>380943672
>armor break every 5 seconds
You haven't actually played it. Sterling has a new video out, why don't you go watch that?
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>>380943024
No.
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Overall package is 8/10 IMO.
Overrated? Very much so.
But it really does have the best emergent glamplay I have seen in a very long time. The potential for more games in this style is extremely high and exciting. This is also why the DLC is disappointing IMO.
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>>380943094
I didn't stop to realize the amazing speedrun potential this game has thanks to the open-world aspect and tools like stasis.

There are so many different ways to run it, I'm looking forward to see what comes out of it in an any%
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>>380943410
>goat level
>Posts an elephant level
Nice job you damgus.
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>>380943937
How or where do you get the armor set in the bottom picture where Link has his hair in a bun? I'm guessing it's something Sheikah related.
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>>380943901

I play Zelda games for interesting dungeons, which this game did not have at all.
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>>380943410
>Divine Beasts
>Good
Pick one.
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>>380944198
Okay? That doesn't mean the world didn't have a shit ton to discover. Maybe it was a bad Zelda game, but most Zelda games are bad anyway.
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>>380943901
No offence but you sound like an autist who just likes collecting things.

>100 hours
>"exploring" the same repetitive shit over and over
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>>380944363
Are you admitting that the game is bad and are still going out of your way to attack him for saying the same thing?
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>>380943672
potions aren't vital and ingredients are all over the place, with many ingredients sharing effects with others so you'll always have some to make whatever potion you want
armor doesn't brake
agree with the dungeons being dull due to not being varied asthetically, but they all offer unique mechanics and their desing is pretty clever overall
maybe try playing a game first before giving it such a sure critique

also
>there's not much to do in this big open world
pic related
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>>380944198
You were looking in the wrong place then.

Sure, the "dungeons" are uninteresting. But the grand areas that you have to strategize in and figure out replaced it. The dungeons are places that test your ability to think using your tools, or your ability to fight well, etc.

Then from there, you need to apply that outside the dungeons in the outside world, which is the much more interesting place. The WORLD is a dungeon.

Kind of an interesting parallel to school that I won't bother going on about.

/rant
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>>380944363
The world doesn't have much to discover. It's the same handful of enemy types everywhere inside skull shaped caves. It looks nice, but it's boring as shit.
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Yeah, I agree with that.
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>>380943537
Yeah games like this and skyrim and fallout or whatever are all the same. return it and get the witcher
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>>380944430
If you haven't played it don't shitpost.
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>>380943024
I just wish the world wasn't so empty and that they included real temples instead of the Divine Beasts.
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>>380944472
My map looks kinda like that except it's all red X's
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>>380944189
I think its the stealth clothing. Go to kakriko or however the fuck that is spelled and there is an armor shop that sells Hylian clothes. in that same store you can buy the stealth set that has the hair bun
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>>380944472
Most of that is korok seeds and chests.
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>>380944568
>empty
U wot
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>>380944189
it's the stealth mask
you can buy the set in Kakariko, fool
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>>380944430
Never played the game

>>380944450
No, this game is great. It doesn't matter if it's a bad at being Zelda because if it was good at being Zelda, the game would be worse.
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>>380944472
Are the skull marks resemblant of the guarded skull structures you come across in the overworld that have a chest in them or something else?
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>>380944472
>Korok seeds and chests filled with useless weapons
Wow so much to do.
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>>380944668
>world is empty
>objectively wrong, look at this map
>T-t-t-that doesn't c-c-c-count
Every time
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>can we all agree
No

It's also the world in an open world game released so far, besides maybe morrowind if morrowind had better interaction and NPC textures
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>>380944803
>the world
the best world*

Actually thinking about it XCX comes close too, if only it didn't feel so static and fake
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>>380944720
That helps and hurts it. It's good that we get something that breaks from the usual fare, but at the same time, so much work went into the physics, the rest of the game fell flat. I was really hoping for some traditional dungeons like the 2014 playthrough hinted at.
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Yeah nah you're a faggot
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>>380943410
okay we all know that Vah Naboris was the GOAT, come on now
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Fuck off.
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>>380944668
>most of those are things to do or loot to collect
okay, here's the map without those
>>380944748
>complains about weapons breaking
>complains about the big amount of weapons given

>>380944747
skulls are Hynoxes
https://www.zeldadungeon.net/breath-of-the-wild-interactive-map/
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>>380944950
>the rest of the game felt flat
Nah, and traditional dungeons are overdone now, they have been used way too many times, I would rather they follow a divine beast structure with using the dungeon, but larger DESU
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>>380944950
I wasn't trying to say that more dungeons would make the game worse. I would have appreciated better dungeons too. The rest of the game more than makes up for them though
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Plus the random weather was just fucking ANNNNNOOOOOYYYYYYINNNNNG. There were a bunch of times where I was in the middle ofclimbing a giant cliff face and it started raining and I just had to either wait for it to stop raining or jump down and find a way around.
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>>380945094
you can climb in rain dingus, why are weather complainers so retarded. If you are halfway up and it rains you can fucking just go right up
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>>380944785
Are you fucking retarded? Do you seriously think chests and korok seeds make up for the big empty fields of nothing?
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>>380944747
No, they're all stamps.
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>>380945167
Nothing? This >>380945068 is with all the shit removed. It's still packed
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Nah
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>>380944876
XCX has a prettier/better designed world but less/different things to do.

its good
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>>380945076
>and traditional dungeons are overdone now
The fuck they are.
If we keep getting dungeons like those shitty Divine Beasts, I'll drop Zelda. A Link Between Worlds did it right, mix the way it did its dungeons with BotW's power scaling and we're set.
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@380945167
>[SHITPOSTING INTENSIFIES]
Doesn't even deserve a (you) desu
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>>380945167
I can think of like 2 big empty fields of nothing in the game. That's it.
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>>380945167
>Do you seriously think loot to collect and tiny puzzles to solve make up for the big empty fields of nothing
yes, objetively
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>>380945301
BotW's world is beautiful.
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>>380945302
No, the way ALBW did its dungeons was retarded. i dropped it halfway through, i couldn't be bothered to waste my time.
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>>380944472
99% of those nodes are ingredients or weapons that will break instantly
So much content
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>>380945301
xcx?
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Was it a masterpiece? No, it has way too many minor issues that really hamper the flow of the game as well as some major ones. Low and invisible durability being one, enemies becoming huge damage sponges being another, and ultimately a real lack of difficulty and depth to the "dungeons" and bosses after even a little bit of time exploring, just to name a few. Metroid did it mostly fine, it really shouldn't be that hard to adapt the formula to a completely open world, free choice game.

However it's success does bode well for the series and I am highly interested in where they take the series from here. Being their first forey into a true open world sandox I expected it to be rough around some of the edges but I'm delightfully surprised at how well polished some of the edges were in contrast. I only expect better with the next game.
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>>380944026
WR Speedrun is already down to about 40 minutes I'm pretty sure. It's a really great watch.
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>>380945389
Yeah? And? i agree with

I said XCX is BETTER/PRETTIER. Learn to read.
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>>380945393
>t-t-t-t-that doesn't c-c-c-count
Desperate
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>>380945302
Yes they are. They have been done for like what, 5 or 6 games now? I'm tired of them desu, they feel so damn predictable. As far as I'm concerned they perfected the formula in TP, just move the fuck on. Divine beasts feel much fresher, and I want them to expand on them
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>>380943024
Bad Zelda games are the ones with Toon Link.
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>>380945068
Look at this lively world!
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>>380944472
Pretty sure ingredients being all over the place is intentional. If you stack effects you get longer durations, and if you cook them during a blood moon they're even stronger. You can get some pretty insane buffs from that.
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>>380945401
Xenoblade Chronicles X
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>>380945068
>putting words in my mouth
But I'll humor you. Weapons breaking is shit because there is only three barebones movesets in the entire game that are used for every single weapon. You dont have to think about what weapon to use, just use whatever. Look at Dead Rising for example. The weapon variety means that breaking a weapon is a chance to play with a completely different one. Breaking a weapon in BOTW means going to a copy of the same weapon.
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>kid impressed by HL2 physic

top keke

nintenbro confirmed underage
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>>380945541
What does your cherrypicked picture prove when we have the map right there? If you played the game you would know the draw distance is pretty shit so things will only spawn when you get closer
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>>380945390
>>380945498
Okay, and what some people don't like, others might. You're allowed to dislike things even if they're from a new, shiny game.
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>>380945541
>cherrypicked screenshots
>dumb hyperbolic statements that are easily proven wrong
ACfag? Is that you?
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>>380943094
This is fucking bullshit, i tried a good few time to cheese my way out of some annoying shrines with similar tactics to this, but if the bomb explosion was even a fraction off the explosion angle would fuck it all up. In that webm the bomb is dropped to the side so the explosion wasn't directly under it, if it was me doing that it wouldn't have worked at all.

Why don't the mechanics work for me REEEE
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>>380945541
Nice bait.
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>>380945634
>If you played the game
Where do you think I got this image?
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>>380943446
People with adhd will get bored fast for sure. It's really too bad you can't enjoy a good game anon
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>>380945615
I am impressed by HL2 physics then and still am now. I wish more games had them, why did the industry seem to drop them completely after HL2? It was great and fun then and great and fun now. Is it too much work or something?
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>>380943024
>Sonybros are still THIS salty about it
its objectively one of the best games this console-generation
get over it
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>>380945476
I never said you said it wasn't, I'm just saying that it's beautiful.

>>380945541
Pic related, it's gorgeous.
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>>380945709
From /v/ obviously.
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>>380945498
The divine beasts were shit and you know it.
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>>380945653
ALL the AC games are garbage. The only one that was slightly interesting was Black Flag.
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>>380945769
Ok bud
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>>380943024
Um. No?
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>>380945709
Yes, but since you played it you know the draw distance for objects is shit, so your cherrpicked picture proves literally nothing, especially when the map is right there
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>>380945786
>gets called ACfag
>thinks of asscreed
Please leave.
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>>380945779
The divine beasts are good and you know it

The ONLY problem is the length and the samey visuals. The puzzles and concepts are much better than traditional dungeons
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>>380945671
Have you tried this?
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>>380945484
>most of these icons are just boring connect 4 or scrabble minigames
>heh, my point exactly!

anon plz
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>>380943024
No, its the best Zelda.
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>>380945167
If you think there SHOULDN'T be big empty fields of nothing in an open world, I think you may need to have a reality check and go outside every once in a while.

Also, having something big and interesting every 2 feet is just bloat and prevents you from enjoying the open world/travelling aspect.

I mean come on, you can't truly say every time you explored an area, there was no reward for it. I often climbed the highest mountain I could find just to say I did it and get a good view.
And it just so happened that there was often a Korok Seed or a treasure chest there as a reward to the player.

But you don't always need something to reward you; you need to learn to set goals for yourself for your own enjoyment.
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>>380945898
Then this is the map without them>>380945068
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>>380945870
>takes pride in knowing some literal who on a south-east-asian-comicbook forum
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>>380945786
>ACfag pretending not to know who ACfag is
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>>380945389
>all those hearts

There is pleb in my midst.
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>>380945754
yes, its even prettier at 4k. i've been replaying on CEMU
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>>380945946
BOTW has only like 2 fields? And those are used for those wide space guardian fights. So I have no idea what people are talking about when they say BOTW is empty. I mean even wirthout the koroks there are still lots of shit to do
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>>380945898
you can stop now Sonybro
you got destroyed about 4 times and we all had a good laugh at your expense
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>>380945946
I just want more villages is all.
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>>380946025
>Zora's Domain at 4k
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>>380945709
>>380945541
>played the game
>traveled to a minimum of 108 shrines judging by number of heart containers
>still thinks the world is empty

what did he mean by this?
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>>380946025
Anon retake the nice screens in 4K please and thanks
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>>380945430
Holy shit already?

It can only get better from here. This could potentially be a weapon to surpass OoT speedruns.
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>>380945779
their length and design are what make them shit, the concepts were cool, but ultimately they were just extremely short dungeons. which fucking sucks because Anouma was originally planning long winding puzzle-heavy dungeons.
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>>380945898
>says that map is empty
>gets proven wrong
>starts talking shit about the content as if it didn't count
Why so desperate, shitposter-kun? Mind leaving the goalposts where you put them originally?
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>>380945892
I could never do that shield ride jump. Is that explained somewhere in game?
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What are your hopes for the story DLC? It seems to strongly hint at playable champions, so it is likely a prequel. I suspect some shit in the zora dungeon will teleport you back judging by the true end of the game
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>>380946057
More quests like Tarrey Town, maybe with destroyed town you have to help rebuild would have been fucking awesome. More things that feel like they have a lasting effect on the world. Also the town's that exist should have been larger.
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>>380946104
ah, i forgot the 4k was the internal resolution
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>>380946197
>Equip shield
>ZL
>Jump
>Press A
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>>380946098
Consider that the Witness had like 4x the number of puzzles in a world that was actually interconnected at a tenth of the size
Spacing out things to do with vast stretches of nothing = empty
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whether it's a bad or good Zelda game depends on how important the series' usual structure is to you. it's not really an interesting argument.

>so-so open world game

most open world games are bad and the usual GTA mission structure got stale years ago. BOTW was one of the first noteworthy open world games to come out in a long time
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>>380946364
>vast stretches of nothing
What did anon mean by this?>>380945068
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>>380946098
I completed all the shrines. The issue with the shrines is that they aren't part of the world, each one requires you to go into a loading screen that takes you to a secluded area.
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>>380946364
But it's not empty
Also the witness is pretentious hipster bullshit, kill yourself.
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>>380943342
>2 hours of cutscenes
>Masterpiece
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>>380946364
>more puzzles
>a good thing

Get out of here, Aonuma.
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>>380943024
It was good but nothing like the release hype portrayed it to be. The reason everyone shat themselves is because the game is downright amazing the first time you play it, but after that it loses a lot of steam. And at the same time the flaws start to become a lot more obvious. It has no staying power. It's wide but shallow. Hyrule is a blast to explore but is ultimately pretty forgettable. Too much of it just blends together into one massive expanse of nothing.
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>>380946454
Yeah, it would have been better if you just find a room and enter it, no loading screen, or the puzzles are just out there in the overworld. But honestly it doesn't bother me that much as the being apart from the world thing allows my PC to run those areas without stutters
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>>380946483
>ACfag, the loser that admitted to watch the game on youtube as his only experience with it, still roams these threads to shitpost
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>>380946626
Armored Core fag?
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>>380946483
almost all are optional and work as a reward for exploring the world
try again
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>>380946587
Wait you mean you actually replayed the game? I stopped right after finishing, at like 100 hours. I never replay open world games for the very reason you stated. Will jump back in on DLC though

>>380946483
This is really ACfag, I guess. 2 hours is pretty tame for an easily 20+ hour game
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>>380946025
How are the random crashes for you? I was thinking of replaying but having to constantly save to not lose progress was getting on my nerves.
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>>380945412
>Was it a masterpiece? No, it has way too many minor issues
>However it's success does bode well for the series and

Just shut the fuck up already. You can look up any youtube review for a game that everybody likes and rates 10/10, and you're going to hear this same meme speech.

I'm not even saying you're wrong, I'm just cringing at your "I'm just being objective here" safe-space review.

Everybody knows everything on earth is imperfect to some degree, but if nothing in my eyes can compare to how great this thing is, I'm allowed to call it a masterpiece if I want it to and you can fuck right off.

Your boring "objective truths" do not fucking matter to anybody. Pick a raw opinionated side and argue for it, now THAT'S interesting.
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>>380946718
Works on my machine :^)

Four crashes in a day, it's not THAT bad I guess.
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>>380944198
Zelda isn't only defined by its dungeons, by that logic wind water and majoras mask are shit games and that's a terrible opinion to have
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>>380946796
for some people it is, I mean those people would be better off playing pure puzzle games like portal but they exist
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>>380946745
Jesus Christ dude. Calm down, it's just a game.
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>>380946796
Anon...
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>>380946796
also by that logic, Skyward Sword is a great game

which is also a shit opinion
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>>380946687
I should be rewarded with gameplay not exposition, is that too much to ask for from these cinematic experience games?
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>>380946198
>It seems to strongly hint at playable champions

The hell are you talking about, no it doesn't.

It's probably more memories to collect with a dungeon.
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>>380946961
SS is unironically the best zelda for me because of that reason alone. The dungeons and puzzles make up for everything else
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>>380946965
ACfag, the game is a cinematic experience for you because your only experience with it is watching youtube videos and shitposting, kindly kill yourself.
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>>380947006
>champion's ballad
>trailer highlights champions
Doesn't seem that much of a stretch to me
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>hating on BotW

Does that mean that we love this game now?
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>>380946507
Aonuma has finally seen the light. Hopefully that means puzzlefags will follow suit.
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>>380947127
Being about the champions does not strongly hint they'll be playable.
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>>380947074
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>>380947062
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>>380946025
i tried, fraps wont let me.

If you've got the specs, trying running it yourself on CEMU.
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>>380946507
BotW: for gamers who aren't smart enough for actual puzzles, aren't skilled enough for deep combat, and don't have the attention span for a real story
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>>380947270
no need when you didn't present one in the first place.
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>>380947190
I never disliked it but it's still my least favorite of the bunch, at least it has the Sandship which is my favorite Zelda dungeon.
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>>380946947
I'm not talking about a game, I'm talking about a boring, socially awkward wannabe-video game reviewer.

I'm talking about forming real opinions and becoming a real person, as opposed to just spouting objective shit all day.
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>>380947190
It's a vocal minority, or just pure shitposters like this guy>>380947364
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>>380947364
it's about as deep of a combat system as Zelda's ever gonna have
>>380947408
jeez I forgot how much I hated SS character models
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>>380946194
i never moved goalposts, shitty content shouldn't count towards making a world less 'empty.' if you wanna be a turbofag yes, theres technically MORE game, but if i dump literal garbage into your spaghetti-o's, did i just increase the serving size or increase the amount of shit you have to cut around just to get a good meal?
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>>380947408
>people waifu this genetic freak of nature
Why
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>>380947405
>People claim Breath of the Wild is all about gameplay
>Game forces cutscenes on you in the opening segment on the Great Plateau
>Game gives you more cutscenes instead of gameplay for exploration
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>>380947550
Have you been so fat, you looked at a video game and see food?
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>>380947550
>defends goalpost movement with faulty logic
>food analogy
>hyperbolic false statements
Opinion discarded, you can't shitpost this game into being bad no matter how hard you try.
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Are Korok seed tedious? Yes. Should there be 900? Fuck no.

Is it satisfying to drop a rock on a Korok and watch it say "Ouch" over and over?

You fuckin know it
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>>380947635
Acfag go make another thread about how people like other M just because they fap to samus, please and thanks
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>>380947364
See this is why i dont publicly announce i play nintendo games, so i come to /v/ only to be assaulted here.
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>>380947635
>ACfag is so desperate to shitpost Zelda he doesn't even try to make sense anymore
>reward my exploration with exploration or this game is a cinematic experience
Zelda broke him, it's sad really.
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>>380947503
In a series that has had great art direction, SS's is bafflingly bad.

>>380947709
>Should there be 900? Fuck no.
Yes there should be, they put so many that no matter where you went you wouldn't be struggling to find them like you do feathers in Assassin's Creed 2. The game actively discourages coimpletionism and I'm glad it does.
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>>380947709
>should there be 900
Why not? It subtracts nothing from the game
>tedious
Are you a completionist. I cannot see why people find optional shit for a small reward tedious unless they are aiming for completion
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>>380947469
But no one gives a shit about your opinion or anybody elses for that matter.
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>>380947709

YAHAHA!
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>>380947190
We acknowledge that BotW is a good game, but has flaws. Skyward Sword has zero redeeming qualities.
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>>380947830
Presenting your opinion as fact won't change that.
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>>380943024
Yeah, game was fucking boring.
First Zelda i didnt even get close to 100% with zero desire to ever play again because of how monotonous and unchallenged I felt. That on top of having next to no way to reward the player.

It reminds me of an early access PC game thats focused on survival, with a Zelda skin pack. I think that's the best way to describe it, because the combat is shit, the content is unfinished, and the beginning is similar to the end in that it doesnt change much at all.
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>>380947807
>>380947828
please don't read into the shitpost it was an elaborate way to say i just like dropping rocks on them
>>380947867
you get it
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Damn. /v/ is still mad about BotW, even after all this time and newer games that have been released?

The more I see threads like these, the more I know BotW succeeded at being a good and memorable game.
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>>380947919
inb4 "nuh uh"
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>>380947902
Dungeons?

@380947919
Nice try, but I ain't giving such obvious bait (You)s especially since you compare it to previous zeldas
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>>380948018
I make/respond to these threads because it gets Nintendo fans all riled up
I'll probably keep going until Mario comes out since this is all they'll have for a while
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>>380948032
Fine, that's one. And they were ruined by the game's bullshit.
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>>380947904
I'm not. I'm just saying that you're an idiot for getting riled up because someone thinks the game has flaws but still thinks it's good.
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>>380947982
I too like dropping rocks on them, I'm just tired of people not getting why they chose to handle the Korok seeds like they did. It solved a major issue that has plagued open world games for a while.
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>>380948025
>>inb4 people disagree with me
Huh? Of course people are going to disagree, the game hardly even focuses on survival at all. No food and water meter, no need for sleep, little crafting, only survival focused part is temperature
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>>380947919
It took you until this game to feel unchallenged in a Zelda tittle?

Were you bellow the age of 8 when playing the older games?
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>>380948110
The only way SS fucked up dungeons was by forcing motion controls for the fucking boss keys, that was fucking retarded.
I'd also like to say that SS has the best boss fight in a Zelda game.
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>>380948108
This thread has been pretty comfy so far, thanks
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>>380947709
>is it satisfying to drop a rock on a Korok and watch it say "Ouch" over and over?
>You fuckin know it
Damn right.

>>380947807
>they put so many that no matter where you went you wouldn't be struggling to find them like you do feathers in Assassin's Creed 2. The game actively discourages coimpletionism and I'm glad it does.
This is also true, but is always overlooked.
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>>380947807
that guy has fucking metal pasties on

I never realized that shit

yuck
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>>380948214
ruined by motion controls, sadly. I wonder if a remaster will do the game favours because the switch is far more accurate than the Wii in motion controls
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>>380948108
Thanks for keeping BotW threads alive, anons here talk about multiplicity, emerging gameplay and other design philosophies now thanks to your low effort bait and shitposts.
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I have 180+ hours in this game and ONLY just got to Lurelin village the other day, first time discovering fishing harpoons and everything. I also only just now learned how to make the rafts go mach speed with the Korok Leaf.

BOTW is the perfect game to explore and chill with and anyone who says otherwise is wrong.
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So when does the first DLC come out?
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>>380948365
Wouldn't surprise me if they do seeing as they remastered OoT and MM for 3DS and WW and TP for Wii U.
The Wii wasn't an HD console so an HD remaster of SS is probably likely.
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>>380948126
Yeah, it does, i climbed to the top of a mountain for the hell of it at one point and was greeted with a little reward in the form of a korok seed

I wasn't looking for it, i didn't need it, but it added a little something that made the world feel a little less empty, and my decision to climb the mountain, a little less pointless.
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>>380948261
>>380948126
>>380947807
Korok seeds shouldn't even be in the game. They should have had another way to get more slots. Maybe put upgrades in chests so that they offer actual rewards rather than shitty weapons.
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>>380948468
June the 30th
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>>380948468
June 30, 2017
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>>380948214
>>380948365
I kind of feel like SS using Switch controls like BotW would be based. The general reason the game was bad was mostly the controls.

SS tested the waters for stamina and gliding/openworldy shit in Zelda. So technically, you have to thank SS for birthing BotW
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>>380943937
This is a small thing, but is there any way to change the in-game clock to a 24-hour clock? I have the US version of the game, and there isn't any setting in the options for changing the clock.
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>>380948507
Literally what's the difference. The chest actaully offers less because it has no environmental puzzle behind it, and it doesn't have the YAHAHA
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>>380947793
he deserves it
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>>380948537
>>380948572
TWO WEEKS
I guess I should go beat it again
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>>380948439
>180+ hours
you must not have any life.. oh wait, we're on /o/
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>>380948537
>>380948572
With how worthless and uneventful it was, I thought it would already be out by now.
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>tfw I just want the MM, TP and SS Link amiibos but the preorders are already sold out

Godfuckingdammit Nintendo.
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>>380948656
Why bother before hard mode comes out?
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>>380948591
While there are some pretty clear elements in both, SS is by far the most story heavy experience in a Zelda game and the "overworld" was segmented into pseudo dungeons whereas Breath of the Wild is the polar opposite on all accounts with the least amount of exposition and one massive overworld.
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>>380948672
>muh real life
Go be a normalfag somewhere else
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>>380948672
>we're on /o/
anon are you ok?
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What's the fastest way to get to all the towers?
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>>380944156
>>380944316
You have absolutely no clue about game design if you cannot appreciate what happens in this webm even a bit, or the four beassts in general. They are pretty much everything you can want from good dungeon design: No handholding, optional ways to solve puzzles, nothing slowing you down and no padding such as loading times, boring enemies that let you wait for an opening all the time (that guy with the 20 chins was not all wrong), stupid cube pushing puzzles. Cross-room thinkery, verticality, interactivity, highly polished, atmospheric, cool bosses.
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>>380948672
If you don't play games for at least 4 hours every day you should be barred from discussion here. "No life" is a non-insult here where most people spend every ounce of their free time playing games, nevermind the NEETs.
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>>380948672
Sorry to butt-in, but you must work hard and earn good money in order to buy and maintain a good automobile.
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>>380948865
This will never not blow my mind.
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>>380948643
I guess I should have said that they should have made actual puzzles in the overworld that led to the upgrades. Instead we get 900 copy pasted piss easy "puzzles."
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>>380948365
No anon, the problems with SS were not only bound to the controls.
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>>380946710
>I never replay open world games for the very reason you stated.

Lots of open world games have options that enhance replayability like classes, factions, quests and choices with different outcomes, NG+, etc. BotW has none of these.

In fact I'd say the game is a complete chore to play more than once. Even if you aren't a collectible nut who went and found every shrine and seed just having to start the game over is a fucking pain in the ass. Early game weapon and stamina management is stressful and frustrating and I'd rather die than go through it again. Really sad that they didn't think to include a NG+ option that starts you with your endgame health, stamina, and equipment.
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>>380948865
We get brain dead puzzles with a shitty gimmick for each beast that culminates in a boring unchallenging boss fight. Great.
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>>380948672
>oh wait, we're on /o/
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>>380948865
>So quick to share his webms, anon misses a completely obvious lousy animal name joke in reference to his filename.
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>>380948865

Horizon is a shiny piece of turd, just like all new high-end graphic games.
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>>380949148
So you haven't played it and need to do this shit to cope with that. Great.
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>>380948852
By doing this.
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>>380949273
But I have played it.
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Eh... even though I enjoyed botw, there a lot of things that could've been vastly improved.
I rate it an 8. Anyone who gives it an actual 10 must be on something.
Inb4
>timestamp
>you didn't play
>you didn't play enough

I played the game days before release when it got leaked. Played for about 2 weeks and decided to end it. ending was shit unfortunately[/Spoiler]
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>>380949278

Holy shit, Link went full Tao Pai Pai here.
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>>380949405
Obviously not if you're not willing to suck Nintendo's dick for every little thing and ignore all the glaring flaws
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>>380949278
tao pai pai!
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>>380949576
>muh minor nitpicks are game breaking flaws
Every single time.
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>>380949261
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVPXKdSEGNQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEGWtyJAkO0
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>>380949658
Things that may seem to be minor nitpicks to you could be major flaws to others.
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Seriously, what the fuck is this? Is this supposed to be a steambox because it has PC components or a full fledged competitor to the big three. I'll buy it if it's the latter. Atari has some big balls announcing this. Apparently, It's not supposed to be based on old haldware. So don't expect a NES classic scenario
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>>380949658
>ignore all the glaring flaws
>suck Nintendo's dick for every little thing
Every single time.
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>>380949732
Hahahahahhahahahahahah
Kill yourself
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>>380949812
Good point.
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>>380949806
>glaring
>If I keep shitposting Zelda will become a bad game
Never ever.
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Do you guys remember this from E3 2011?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_fyOkrteqM
Look at that. Fucking looking at it. And compare it to BotW. Which one would you rather play? That demo is 5 years old and never turned into a real game. Instead we get this washed-out BotW shit that has no place in 2017 as an AAA title. What the fuck? I was so hyped for that demo. BotW was a slap in the face.
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>>380943342
>implying AC "Minecraft is the best open world game ever" fag's opinion is relevant
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>>380949886
>I was hyped for a tech demo I never played
Try not being a fucking idiot next time.
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>>380949806
>Minor faults are somehow glaring flaws
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>>380949886
That demo looks like shit
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>Almost 4 months later and /v/ is still assblasted about botw
lovin every laugh
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>>380949886
This. It was an insult to anyone who is a fan of Zelda and anyone who wasn't brainwashed by hype has torn it apart. People say that Mass Effect Andromeda was the biggest betrayal this year but, oh no, they were wrong.

>>380949958
>i-it was just a (((tech demo))), goy!

>>380950020
t. sour grapes cuck
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>>380949961
>Glaring flaws are somehow minor faults
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>>380949678
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVPXKdSEGNQ [Remove]

Dick waving contest.

Video games are in a naturalistic rut not dissimilar to landscape painting in the pre-impressionist era.

Too much money in the scene. Too many casuals.
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>>380949958
They never said it was a tech demo at the time. They gladly implied it was in production as an actual game during E3. They used it to sell Wii U units knowing full well the Wii U couldn't produce those graphics. Of course, at the time, we didn't know that, either. And now you have Breathe of the Wild showing Wii U's true potential. Sad
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Can we all appreciate that this is the game that saved Zelda from shitty combat?

>every zelda game since N64 has had pathetic combat
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>>380950109
>Blowing nitpicks out of proportion into glaring flaws
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>>380950320
BOTW has shitty combat too.
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>>380950320
BotW has shit combat though
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>>380943024
take off the nostalgia goggles and its easily the best zelda game ever made and therefore de facto best game ever made
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>>380950438
>>380950510

name a single fight in any other zelda game remotely as good as fighting a lynel in BotW
I'm waiting
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>>380950526
>best game ever made
That's either the remake of Resident Evil, Super Mario Galaxy 2 or Bloodborne.
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>>380950526

OoT has finally been dethroned as the best 3D Zelda game. I know this has been said since the TP days but it's true now.
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>>380950678
Never said it wasn't better, but a less smelly turd is still a turd
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>>380943024
>people thinking this is the first open-world Zelda.
Please.

I was also secretly hoping before the release that BotW would be a reimagining of the original Zelda for the NES. But maybe eventually. If anything, it'll probably be 3DS ALBW-style remake, ala Metroid 2 sadly.

But a true 3D version would be sicky.
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>>380950779
so its the zelda game with the best overworld
and most dungeon content
and most quests
and best npcs
and best combat
and biggest world
and best mechanics
and most detail

whats not to love?
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There are still people that defend the durability system.

STILL
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>>380950912
forgot pic.
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Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree that it was shit? I'm glad we can all agree on this.
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>>380950978
>Have to burn random bushes to progress
D R O P P E D
R
O
P
P
E
D
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>>380950913
Dungeons, quests and the combat at least are all trash. A bigger map doesn't mean better. The rest are debatable.
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>>380951141
Name a better Zelda side quest than Tarrey Town.
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What I notice is that a lot of you people just compare this game to the other Zelda games. I hold the game in its own regard. There are so many flaws, downsides or whatever the fuck you want to call them.

I liked the game but it ain't even close to being considered a masterpiece. Some of these anons are right, a ton of you just dick ride Nintendo like crazy.
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>>380951194
>go collect wood the quest
Pretty much every request in MM.
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>>380951201
What I notice is that a lot of you shitposters make oulandish claims or outright make shit up to talk shit about Zelda, but never ever have exact concrete knowledge of the game, it's always vague statements.
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>>380950704
>Bloodborne
What is it with all those NeoGAF tourists?

Bloodborne is literally a 5/10 game at best. It's fucking trash in every way. Repetitive combat, level design, no music, no story, rehashed to the max, unpolished, shit framerate, glitches.

Shit. Just shit in every way.
>>
No, anon. I'm not one of these people. I don't even use twitter.
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>>380945302
Shut your bitch ass up. Fucking whiner, probaby samefagging the fucm out of this thread.
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>>380950379
>>380950109
God why are the P5 girls bar none so fuckable.
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>>380951302
>liked the game
>can't critique it

You're so right anon. This game was the best game I ever played in my entire life and it's easily a 10/10 GOTY. No, game of the century!!!!
Wake the fuck up anon. Even fucking normies don't think that highly of the game.
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>>380951553
Because you like samey, robotic faggot stick man character design and lesbian girls.
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>>380949412
>if you have a different opinion than me you are insane

aight
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>>380951580
I do, so does the industry.
I find it sad that people like you unironically think that they can shitpost Zelda into not sweeping GOTY awards at the end of the year and not being one of the most influential games for decades to come, you do know it is futile, right? No amount of shitposting will rewrite history.
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>>380951773
If you have no reasoning behind the overrated score then yea. You're all just as bad as the shit posters.
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>>380943937
>Tfw people save your screenshots

H-how embarrassing
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BOTW threads are fucking vile. And it's because of both sides.
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>>380951948
They were good when the game was first released.
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>>380943024
Yeah.
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>>380951948
nintendo threads tent to attract a lot of retard kids
specially those that own a ps4
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>>380952037
>tfw own PS4 and Switch
>tfw Zelda is one of the best games I've played
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>>380951043
>"fast travel" is only accesible through 4 random rocks out of the many ones
>have to blow up some big rock to get to the final dungeon
shitty level design
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>>380952037
>And it's because of both sides.
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>>380951895

"overrated" is the most intellectually bankrupt term, what else ya got
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>>380951871
What the fuck do you even mean by influential? It hasn't fucking influenced shit yet.
The game is an overglorified collectathon. It's a sandbox and you can't even refute that, like come on. There's no story substance either which made it even worse.

You act as if I think the game is trash. It's not but it's not no fucking masterpiece either.

>>380952005
That's called the cupcake phase. After the first week or two when people experienced the game, any criticism of the game would result in the following.
>timestamp or you didn't play it
>you didn't play it enough
>you aren't playing it right

You couldn't say ANYTHING negative about the game without being shat on by fanboys and getting told to timestamp for proof of play. Then when you do provide proof, they'll find a way to deflect or shit on your progress. You guys are just as bad as the shit posters period.
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>>380944568
Why would you want them to follow the same formula for every single game? It's time to do something new and honestly, what they did is a huge success.
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>>380952212
What else do YOU have?
You gonna post the same webms? Say others didn't play the game? Defend the game of any and all criticisms?
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>>380952304
>it hasn't influenced shit yet
>witcher lead dev claims that it raised the bar for open world games to come
Who do I believe, the shitposter with hot opinions or the experienced dev? Hmmmm really... makes me think...
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>>380950978

Land Octorocks are fucking assholes in BotW I swear.
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>>380952402

No, it's definitely got its share of flaws but I found the exploration and world design so successful that it is a 10 for me

What's got you so defensive? Need to talk?
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>"Now that the hype's died down..."
>"Now that the dust has settled.."
>"Now that we've had time..."

Signs of a shitposting OP
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>>380951417
Point out the supposed posts.
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>>380952429
And there it is.
>Witcher dev said this and that
Who the fuck cares? You guys pull that excuse out your ass every fucking time. One dev said this so it has to be definitive.
So tell me anon, how will that influence cd projekt red's next game? Seriously, tell me how you think it will influence their next title?
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>>380951394
Listen I know this post is bait but literally every problem you just said could also be put against BOTW except maybe rehashing
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>>380952496
It's not on the PlayStation, it coul literally be a 4k 60 FPS masterpiece but
> Muh shitendo console
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>>380952304

You're up at 4 AM on a Saturday throwing a tantrum because people don't dislike a game as much as you, let's talk about that.
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>>380952649
BotW didn't have repetitive combat. The game gave you dicktons of ways to approach every fight.
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>>380952631
Emerging gameplay obviously.
More notorious landmarks that render the map useless.
Complex interactions between elements and materials.
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>>380952496
Simply the people that claim its a masterpiece and hype the shit out of the game.
Mostly the masterpiece part. A masterpiece is reserved for games that go above and beyond in there genre. They are games that couldn't have been made any better at all. Clearly thst definition doesn't apply to titles anymore.

They could've done so much more with BOTW. That you can't refute....but if you can I'd love to hear it. Maybe the next game will be the true masterpiece if it follows a similar formula.
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>>380952805
>implying BotW was the first or best at emergent gameplay
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>>380943024
8/10 game, 6/10 Zelda game
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PVP MODE WHEN
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>>380952884
>more vague non-posts implying knowledge never explicitly stated
Do contrarians ever get tired of this game?
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>>380952848
>A masterpiece is reserved for games that go above and beyond in there genre
Like Knack?
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>>380943024
It's a good Zelda game and one of the best open world games of all time, if not the best ever.
The Zelda Cycle is broken.
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>>380952805
Emerging in botw?
So this has been your go to arguments of liver the past week. I swear I must be talking to the same anon from last week.

There's nothing emerging about botw. You get everything right off the bat from the plateau. No the camera doesn't count. The gameplay does not change much after that.

I think you guys need to refresh yourselves on the definition of emergent.
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>literally not a single good dungeon in the game
>shrines being even worse and unable to make up for their being only 4 main dungeons
That alone makes it not a good Zelda game.
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>>380952723
I liked the game though. I just don't like you dick riders. You're also up at 4 on Saturday chatting with me babyyyy
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>>380953110
>Shrines
>Bad
Huh?
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>>380953042
>complex dynamic interactions between physics, elements and level geometry don't make for emergent gameplay because you get all tools at the beginning
This retarded argument will never be enough anon, I can't believe you try this every week and always get BTFO and need to move goalposts.
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>>380943024
Nope, best Zelda game DESU
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>>380952967
Nah, I never had the chance to play the best game of the generation. Sadly I only have a wii u and switch from this current gen.
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>>380953042
emergent gameplay has nothing to do with "when you unlock mechanics" you fucking retard
it has to do with players combining game mechanics in ways not explicitly constructed by the developers

BotW is a sandbox with the most interactive systems in its engine ever made, and thus you're free to approach the game in novel ways.
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>>380943024
Is a flawless, best open world game, arguably the best game of all time, bad? No.
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>>380949678
>The salt levels from SJWs and Sonybros in the comments
Fuck man
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>>380952965
Then what was >>380952805 trying to say? The question was "how is it influential" and "emerging gameplay" was provided as an answer. Considering BotW is neither the first nor best example of emergent gameplay, nor popularized it, how can it possibly be influential?
You Nintenbros just love backpedaling and grasping for straws I swear
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>>380952848

Anon, a game of this scope was never going to be perfect. I don't really think that's the point
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>>380953042
You have literally no idea what you are talking about
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>>380953176
All but maybe two shrines are the most simplistic, short, and saddest excuses for puzzles ever introduced in the series.
I like BoTW but it's Witcher III fags all over again with how much people over exaggerate it.
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>>380953176
Bomb jumping makes for good dungeons now? What are you trying to say?
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>>380953279
>still implying knowledge not explicitly stated
Mention those games or fuck off.
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>>380953370

That the variety of ways you can solve dungeons is cool?
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>>380953279
>>380953241
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>>380943024
>it's a good game, it's just a bad [series name] game
is this the retarded non-nonsensical opinions general?
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>>380953397
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergent_gameplay
DEither know what you're talking about or do some research you fucking retard
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>>380953241
The game has no emergent gameplay anon. It's the same throughout the entirety of the game. The only thing thats refreshing is getting a new ability from beating each divine beast. Other than that, nothing ever changes. It's actually fucking repetitive after a while.

You talk about the interactions too much too. Everything is based off the runes you get and ice/fire. Unless there's more that I don't know of?
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>>380953441
BoTW is an enjoyable game but lacks most of the things that make the average Zelda game good. That's what the statement means
>fedora man
Get your stale means back to 9gag
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>>380953520
you have no idea what the fuck emergent gameplay means you brainless nignog
you are mistaking "progression" for "emergent". Stop misusing the terminology

Breath of the Wild has huge amounts emergent gameplay and very little progression
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>>380945167
Please post a pic of these "big, empty fields of nothing".

I' m waiting.
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>>380953520
You have no idea what the fuck emergent gameplay even means, stop talking
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>ps2 graphics
>20-30 fps

The game's still good but fucking hell.
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>>380953541
>lacks most of the things that make the average Zelda game good
It is a Zelda game. There's no such thing as an "average" Zelda game.
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>>380953639
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>>380953683
Most 3D Zeldas have mechanics or qualities to them that are integral to the game.
BoTW has little to none of those and you saying that just makes it sound like BoTW was your very first Zelda.
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>>380953639
big super detailed fields of lots of shit
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>>380953681
so buy a switch you shitter
you deserve your 20 fps 720p if you were dumb enough to buy a wii u
meanwhile switch is 900p 30 fps without any dips at all
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>>380953517
>literally links wikipedia
Desperate and pathetic, mention the games that supposedly do it or fuck off.
>>380953520
>it's the same through the entire game
Objectively false.
>nothing ever changes
If you play it like that
>there are no complex dynamic interactions, I mean here are six off the top of my head but those don't count do they?
Stop trying already.
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>>380945541
>Central Hyrule was designed specific for horseback riding, so you can access the other areas quicker in the beginning of the game

"HURR DURR, WHY IS THIS SO EMPTY. I WANT TREES AND RUINS AND WATER EVERYWHERE."

Just shut the fuck up. You underageism is showing.
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>>380953804
>without any dips at all
Docked mode dips all the time.
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>>380944472
>Assassins_Creed_Map.jpg
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>>380953713
>>380953760
WHERE ARE THE EMPTY FIELDS ANON >>380945068

WHERE ARE THEY
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>>380943024
everyday, same thread.
just give up anon, i know you're still butthurt, but hey, just go play the game, you'll enjoy it
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>>380953675
>>380953638
https://www.techopedia.com/definition/27043/emergent-gameplay

Funny how as I was googling emergent gameplay, two auto fills caught my eye. Zelda and the next was reddit.
Very ironic don't you think?
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>>380953713
Not from the trailer, you lazy fucker. If you haven' t played the game: shut the fuck up.
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>I like BoTW but it's not perfect for these reasons
>autistic screeching any time this is said
It's Witcher III all over again.
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>>380953842
not after the patch lmao
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>>380953895
>tries to play the reddit card
Utterly and completely BTFO.
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>>380953740
Integral unto themselves.
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>>380953895
Okay? So I guess this proves us right. Zelda is associated with emergent ganeplay
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>>380953980
Now you're just desperately trying to sound smart or deep.
No matter how you want to try to philosophically spin it BoTW had terrible dungeons and 95% of the shrines were awful too, which is a massive blow to the game.
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>>380953952
Just saying what I saw anon. That's all
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>>380953816
>>literally links wikipedia
>Desperate and pathetic, mention the games that supposedly do it or fuck off.
Are you unable to read or are you just butthurt? Deus, Dwarf Fortress, The Sims are some huge examples of emergent gameplay that had a dramatic effect on the industry. BotW doesn't come close to any of them.
>b-b-b-but you can cook a-a-pples
Amazing, nobody gives a shit and that's not going to influence dick.
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>>380953740
how about you actually show us some of the mechanics or qualities average zelda games have that BOTW does not have?
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>>380953804

>30fps
>implying that's not a dip itself
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>>380953895
and that link is completely fucking wrong


Emergent gameplay is when players create new elements out of your game of their own accord. Its the opposite of being told how to play the game. Emergent gameplay is when people decided that dueling in diablo 2 would have a set of unwritten rules, where to fight, what level brackets, what items are forbidden, etc. No developer decided that. Emergent gameplay is when people combine game mechanics to do novel things- when you construct a catapult out of a door and a treasure chest and use stasis to fling you into the sky.

The opposite of emergent gameplay is when the developers show you a key, show you a door, and tell you to use the key to open the door, and the game is linear and that's the only possible path you can take. Take it to the extreme and you have interactive movies like Uncharted
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>>380954062
What? Because dwarf fort has more possibilities it means BOTW has no emergent gameplay? What is this logic?
>b-but something no one said, ever
Okay?
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>>380953986
Why is Zelda the only one that came up? I'm not even going to lie, this game is the first game I've ever seen where emergent gameplay is brought up. Sounds so buzz wordy.
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>>380954053
HOLY SHIT are you stupid hahaha. You realize suggestions are based around previous searches right? All you're proving is your own search history.
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>>380943024
I would rate it a 9/10

>best open world of all time
>nice story and worldbuilding/lore
>shit combat system
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>>380954039
>Now you're just desperately trying to sound smart or deep.
What?

>No matter how you want to try to philosophically spin it
I think you're actually retarded.
It doesn't matter if the dungeons or shrines were shit; it's still a Zelda game which is my whole point. You don't get to pick or choose because it's not exactly the same as some of the previous entries.
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>>380954080
Uh uh uh using an item to unlock activate a switch!
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>>380943094
>muh physics toys
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>>380954053
>>380954182
>phoneposters and underaged hysterical faggots who unironically say "holy shit" are going at it

I hate nu-/v/
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>>380954182
BTFO

Turns out mobileposters use re.ddit, wow who would have thought
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>>380954237
can you repeat that in english please?
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>>380954182
No its not anon, it's based off what everyone has been searching up. Ironically, those two came up as I typed emergent gameplay. Past history is represented by the clock like in this pic.
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>>380954285
>using holy shit means you are a faggot
You don't have to make shit up to try to fit in, 2007er
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>>380945541
>hyrule fields
>giant open emply plains in every zelda game
>haha look at this empty area in botw I'm a true zelda fan btw
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>>380954310
Non
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>>380954145
>BOTW IS INFLUENTIAL
>How?
>EMERGENT GAMEPLAY
>But anon plenty of other games have already demonstrated emergent gameplay better than BotW
>LIKE WHAT
>Deus Ex, Dwarf Fortress, The Sims
>LOL SO BOTW HAS NO EMERGENT GAMEPLAY HUH LOL WHAT IS THIS LOGIC
Fucking unbelievable. Here's the point, pay attention:
BotW isn't going to influence shit because it's not actually doing anything new or particularly well.
Simple enough for you, or should I dumb it down more?
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>>380943024
yeah, at least I played it with JP voices though
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>>380954379
don't act like carrying on like a hysterical retard by typing LE HOLY SHIT! XD in capslock isn't the sure sign that a poster is under the age of 25.
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>>380954182
>not knowing how Google works
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>>380954162
>why is a game from a world renowned franchise whose design philosophies are emergent gameplay and multiplicity popularize the terms emergent gameplay and multiplicity?
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>>380954468
Nah it is going to influence emergent gameplay in modern open world games though, not sure what you are on about
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>>380954352
No, the clock is literal previous searches, everything else is suggestions based on previous searches.
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>>380954285

Speak english
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>>380954468
>one of the best selling games of the year and one of the most well received games in history will influence nothing
You are dumb.
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>>380954468
Ayyyyyy I agree.
BOTW ain't going to influence shit besides its sequels.
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>>380943024
>can we all agree
if I ever see this shit written in an OP I'll say the exact opposite of what "we" agree on.

It is the greatest open world ever and it's a fantastic Zelda game.
Eat a dick, OP.
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>>380954468
Zelda is far more popular and recent than those 2 and has the highest chance of influencing something though
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>>380954553
If that were the case then how come the latest trending things come out on top when you're googling? It can be something insignificant as celebrity gossip to acts of terrorism. As long as it's current events, it will show up as you type.
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>>380951194
https://youtu.be/vhJmEGs7P2E?t=7s

Fucking beautiful music.
Exclusive armor.
Hylian shield/other lost items buyback.

Jesus wept.
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>>380954595
thinking about this, you are right. huh.

>>380954571
wish it would though. More games need the climb+paraglide system for travelling, especially open worlds. I have no idea why Ass creed and far cry removed that
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>>380954505
Same to you. Try this: go to google.com in your preferred browser and type "breath." Chances are BotW will be the top suggestions. Then open a different browser (where you aren't signed into your google account) and try the same thing. You will see different top results.
Idiots.
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>>380954545
He thinks that the sims will be more influential for open world games than BotW because it came out first.
he is simply a fucking moron.
>>380954478
>appeal to tone
Utterly and completely BTFO.
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>>380954478

If you're above the age of 25 and still on 4chan, specifically /v/, you have some soul searching to do.
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>>380954468
>if I make the other person sound like a retard I'll sound far more intelligent and belittle their argument without adding anything to the discussion!
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>>380954569
>implying devs are going to change their game so that it can be more like BOTW.

Gee anon, I wonder when the first game to take notes from botw is going to come out.
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>>380954648
You do realize Dwarf Fortress spawned Minecraft?
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>>380954804
Whenever Assassin's Creed: Origins comes out.
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>>380954856
Infiniminer did you fucking liar.
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>>380945671
be happy, this means you're not autistic
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>>380954775
>appeal to tone
how's high school english class treating you?
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>>380954915
https://notch.tumblr.com/post/227922045/the-origins-of-minecraft
>was supposed to be a base building game inspired by Dwarf Fortress
From the horse's mouth.
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>>380954804
No, they would never do that. We all know successful games never influence anything.
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>>380954803
When the other person is a retard it sometimes must be pointed out.
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>>380954760
The same results actually came up when I typed in breath
Breath of the wild
Breath of the wild map
Breath of the wild wii u

What do you get?
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>>380946796
WW and MM were shit. How much were you picked on in high school?
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>>380955226
>breath of the wild gameplay
>breath of the wild sales
>breath of the wild
vs
>breatharian
>breathe
>breath of the Wild
Both from google, one in Chrome and the other Edge.
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>>380943024

Actually its probably the game that did open world better than anyone else. And a solid 9.5 at least. But yeah, whatever gets you through the night i guess.
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>>380955050
>ad hominem
Completely BTFO, he has nothing at this point and will continue climbing down the pyramid of argumentation.
>>380955198
>the other person is a retard, claimed the anon that thinks that the sims will be more influential for open world games than BotW
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>>380943024
>>380943024
GotY
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>>380944472
Why didn't they put anything in the volcano?
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>>380946025

You know you cant finish it on cemu right?
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>>380944506
I have 120 shrines and by no means the enemies always are in skull structures, not even close
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>>380955332
Wait, you're supposed to type in breath and press space anon. Cmon man, stop playing with me.
>>
How the hell do I find the last four shrines and the last 3 side quests?

My last 3 days of playing I found the firefly side quest, the kakariko heirloom shrine and the balloon barrel side quest, and I "completed" the sandstorm Shrine Quest just by talking to the guy at the outpost twice. This is annoying
>>
does nintenbros know about hype backlash?
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>>380943024
It's a good open world game. The problem is open world is one of the worst genres so the game is still a boring piece of shit enjoyed only by retards despite the fact that it's good relative to similar games.
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>>380955507
whats still broken on cemu?
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>>380955732
>open world is one of the worst genres
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>>380955695
You don't HAVE to get all the shrines...
Just use the map online.
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>>380943024

>so so open world

Sonybros are still at it again
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>>380955727
Only contrarians and SONYGGERS are behind any hype backlash, their opinions are irrelevant.
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>>380955804
But that's cheating.
Also yeah you don't have to play the game to 100% but then what's the point
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>>380955897
>what's the point?

having fun
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So ITT we've established that BOTW has downsides and its not a masterpiece BUT to certain people it's still a masterpiece even though they acknowledge the downsides too.

I think this thread really helped us get down to it.
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>>380955951
>We've established that it's not a masterpiece but it is a masterpiece
Schrodinger's Zelda game?
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>>380943024

>So So open world

I can go to the final boss because I can

Suck my sick you fucking piece of shit
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>>380955951
>even though they acknowledge the downsides too
we're still stuck on that part
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>>380956080
You left out
>to some people

Nice try guy
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>>380955951
ITT we've established that /v/ will never get over BotW and the salty denial will continue, meanwhile BotW will be continually referenced as a milestone in gaming for years to come.

http://www.gamesradar.com/were-all-talking-about-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-developers-explain-how-its-shaping-the-future-of-games/

Benjamin Plich was the lead designer on Assassin's Creed: Unity and For Honor, and is currently employed as lead game designer at Montreal's Reflector Entertainment.
>Breath of the Wild showed something most designers already know, but which is hard to achieve... [these games are] evolving from classic open worlds to an open-game model - open progression following each player's intrinsic motivations, adaptive challenge curve and economy, open narrative structures, and so on.
Damien Monnier served as senior designer on The Witcher 3 at CD Projekt RED
>Breath of the Wild has managed to bring classic open world mechanics together while not relying on them to guide the player through its world. You go and explore it because you wonder what's out there, not because a loot icon tells you to.
>Nintendo have raised the bar when it comes to world crafting and this sense of total immersion I get when I play it. While its world includes classic open-world activities, collectibles and loot-filled mobs, it definitely doesn't feel overloaded and allows the focus be on the exploration. You want to explore this land whether or not you are on a quest, or being tasked to collect/gather something. You know, If you were to remove all NPCs, quests and mobs, I would still take pleasure in exploring that beautiful world.

Tommy François, Ubisoft's franchise director.
>For every creatives, it's a lesson. The game [BotW] seems to tell us : put yourself in question. We realize that we are far from excellency.

http://www.lemonde.fr/pixels/article/2017/03/17/pourquoi-the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-fait-progresser-le-jeu-video_5096048_4408996.html
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>>380956098
>I can go to the final boss because I can
i think that's giving someone too much freedom.

you might as well not play the game if you can defeat the final boss not long after starting the game.
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>>380954265
>game has shit physics
>/v/ complains even harder
Kys fagget
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>>380955897
>you don't have to play the game to 100% but then what's the point
So you can so what you want. So you can make the adventure your personal to you, on your terms. Why would that ever be an issue to anyone?
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>>380956202
This copy pasta again
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>>380943024
People agreed from day 1. Who cares about the opinion of "muh open world" casualshitters?
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>>380956259
You could always, you know, not go straight to the final boss.
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>>380956112
This anon speaks for you all
>>380952496
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>>380956393
That explains the 90 perfect scores it got day 1 then.
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>>380956393
>calling anybody else casual while praising the linear games in the series or linearity in general
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>>380956349
It's actual quotes from rival devs and links to discussions of why Zelda has received so much praise. Thought some people might be interested seeing as they have trouble processing why the game is so highly rated.
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>>380956259
I bet you enjoyed playing through 30 hours of pointless mandatory filler before the quest to actually find Ciri opened up.
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>>380956551
>Thought some people might be interested
Everyone's seen ti dude considering you spam it eighty times a thread
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>>380956396
why would i want to do that?
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ALRIGHT, EVERYONE SHUT THE FUCK UP.

This is how it's gonna go down.
>December 2017
If BOTW does not win GOTY, the dick riders lose.
If it does, the dick riders win.

Simple as that. Please try to survive until them. You wouldn't want to miss the massive shitstorm.
I can't think of a name for people that criticize the game since not all of them are shit posters. So don't get offended.
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>>380952848
>A masterpiece is reserved for games that go above and beyond in there genre.

The irony is that this statement perfectly sums up BotW. You just don't want to accept it, even though everyone else knows it.
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>>380956503
Did you even read my post?
>Who cares about the opinion of "muh open world" casualshitters?

>>380956538
>linear = bad
I love this meme.
A well crafted word for these kind of games will always be infinitely better than a wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle skinner box.
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>>380956735
That's some nice /v/ rhetoric you've learned, but its not an argument.
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Why is /v/ so obsessed with downplaying the merits of this game?
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>>380956728
You seem like the type to defend the durability system, the shrines and the lacking story. Don't be that guy anon.
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>>380956735
Anon you're right and everyone else is wrong, here I was thinking that the 240+ hours I played the game were incredibly fun but your post made me see the light, Fujibayashi is a fucking hack and Zelda is a shit game but only you noticed.
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>>380956846
They're just obsessed with downplaying... The downsides of the game. The games clear as day weak points.
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>>380956889
It's not that you're wrong, you're just an idiot.
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>>380955695

how the fuck would we know what shrines or quests you are talking about?
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>>380943094
speed runner autism is not a factor in a game's quality
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>>380956860
>durability system
There is literally nothing wrong with this.
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>>380956984
Heh. I better see you complaining when they change it in the next game.
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>>380956860
>Durability system
>Bad
It encourages you to make more use of your environment and forces you to experiment with a bunch of weapons, how is that bad?
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>>380956860
>lacking story
This can only be a positive
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>>380956939
The game's weak points still don't detract from what it achieves no matter how hard you shitpost.
>>380956945
Yes anon you are so smart and Nintendo is abunch of hacks thanks for your smarts thanks to you now I know the game is secretly shit.
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>>380956984
It's not that durability is bad, the problem is what stems from it: excessive menu-diving/inventory-management and lack of feeling like anything you find is special. It's an ok idea handled really poorly. Just my opinion.
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Temporary gear was a terrible idea.
Not having a bunch of well done dungeons was a terrible idea.
Having a ton of shoddy mini dungeons with the same boss fight 100 times was a terrible idea.
Having a shitty, easy final dungeon and QTE combat was a terrible idea.

Yeah, it's a shitty zelda game.
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>>380956821
You are welcome to prove me wrong. Open world just doesn't work for most games, but it's the current fad and most people eat that shit up. The think a mediocre experience stretched out over 300 hours makes for a 10/10 game, when you could have the same content condensed in a 30 hour game instead.

>>380956889
It is fun, but it's just not nearly as good as it could have been.
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>>380943024
I think it's the best 3D Zelda game. That said, it isn't exactly a high bar by today's standards.
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>>380957107
>Temporary gear was a terrible idea.
Only the weapons are temporary and it gives you a reason to fight enemies.
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>>380948921
>copy pasted
(You)
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>>380957187
>/v/ is now unironically asking for shorter, more linear and handholding games
What the fuck happened?
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>>380956846
/v/ has always been unreasonably negative
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>>380957392
>handholding
wat
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>>380956860
BotW isn't perfect.

But it IS a modern masterpiece which raises the bar for an entire genre it will continue to be referenced as a milestone in gaming for the next decade at least.

You can stomp your feet and cry in denial but it will never change this fact.

People on this board simply cannot handle or are unwilling to accept that Nintendo made a great game.

In an effort to find some (any) angle of criticism, the only thing /v/ can do is attempt to elevent minor nitpicks and try and pretend that they're MAJOR GAME BREAKING FAULTS.

It's been almost 4 months now and /v/ still cannot fine ONE single genuine fault with the game which holds any water.

Daily reminder that BotW is a bad game because too many people liked it. Kek.
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>>380957187
>Open world just doesn't work for most games, but it's the current fad and most people eat that shit up.
Nice oxymoron.
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>>380957024
Sure anon. Let me tell you how most people played.

After about 24 hours of gameplay they realize that there's no point in clearing camps or the enemies by towers. They get cool new weapons and in fear of breaking them they avoid enemies and beeline to towers.

>make use of your environment
Sure, these conveniently placed boulders and explosives is "using" the environment. Please don't post some webm of stuff that very little people would even think of doing.

I personally would have liked weapons to last a reasonable amount of time. I would've also liked being able to enhance weapons whether itd by increasing durability or adding elemental feats to them. We collect a ton of shit and can't even use most of it. Imagine being able to cut a tree down, take the would and add durability or strength to your wooden weapons.

You're probably thinking that idea is stupid. Would be funny if that's exactly what they do in the next game. They might get rid of durability all together even.
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>>380955262
They're the bets recieved Zelda games behind OoT. How much were YOU picked on?
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>>380957438
This copy pasta again
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The game is pretty great but the hardware it is on is such garbage.
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>>380957439
That's not how you use that word.
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>>380956971
then why is it in games like Super Metroid?
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>>380957438
>even normies hated the durability system
The masses have spoken so shut the fuck up.
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>>380957478
>Let me tell you how most people played.
I didn't play it this way. Do you have proof most people did? Avoiding fights sounds like something someone who doesn't really like the game would do.
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>>380957478
I guess most people are hoarders and too dumb to use weapons they acquired or increase their inventory slots.
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>>380957497
Thats not pasta. Are you going to say with everything I post?
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>>380957224
That's called grinding.

I want to fight enemies because they're between me and something that makes my gameplay experience better, not because I ran out of swords. Swords shouldn't run out of ammo.

>>380957392
I'd say /v/ is more asking for a well designed world and story instead of trying to get by on "it's big". Linearity is not a bad thing when it's crafted well. Open world games tend to have shit copy pasted over and over and feel shallow. Like skyrim with it's dozens of shit dungeons full of skeletons to fight and nothing else to do. I love curb stomping a dungeon full of mindless undead as well as the next guy, but it gets tedious when it's the 400th time. This is the same problem I see people have with procedurally generated games. They're a mile wide and an inch deep when it comes to content, and there can't be any cohesive story when you can go anywhere right off the bat.
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>>380957478
>he still hasn't gotten weapons with added effects
>tries to tell anyone how to handle the weapon breaking system
Try playing the game for more than 24 hours.
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>>380957589
Super Metroid is great for many reasons. Damage boosting wavedashing faggotry isn't one of them
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>>380957438
>But it IS a modern masterpiece which raises the bar for an entire genre
Which genere?
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>>380957478
>Please don't post something that proves me wrong
You being too unimaginative to use your surroundings isn't a fault of the game.
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>>380957626
Not him but I played it that way. Got tired of fighting for no real reason, got tired of shuffling menus around to drop gear and pick up new shit, got tired of fighting easy AI. I loved the first couple hours but the tedium hit pretty hard after a bit.
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>>380957672
What are you on about? I specifically gave that example because of the elemental weapons in the game. You can't obtain them by crafting.
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>>380957478
Just because people don't use it doesn't mean it doesn't exist
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>>380957671
>That's called grinding.
No, its called playing the game. Did you really expect combat not to be important?
>I'd say /v/ is more asking for a well designed world and story instead of trying to get by on "it's big"
How do you make "a more well designed world" exactly?
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>>380957751
Your average player doesn't do that kind of shit though. That's why I said very very little people come up with those kind of ways to fight. You all post the same fucking webms anyway.
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I bet the people who are complaining about the durability system are also the ones who got buttblasted when they found out the Drake Sword sucked ass in Dark Souls.
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>>380957618
Some love it, some hate it, some will blow it out of proportion and pretend it's a MAJOR FAULT.

It's not a fault. At worst, it's a nitpick. Keep crying. All those perfect scores and outpourings of awe from rival devs arn't going to go away.
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>>380957724
Duh.
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>>380957958
But the drake sword is good, especially early game
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>>380957626
Get the fuck outa here. That's how most people played. Don't bs me and say you defeated all the enemies at the foot of a tower instead of just climbing that shit.

What about that one tower that has all the broke down guardians surrounding it. Don't fucking tell me you waited until you got ancient weapons to get that tower. Don't fucking lie to me.
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>>380957438
I enjoyed BotW, but I put it down 2 weeks after launch, and haven't touched it since. I feel as though NieR Automata did a better job at being a gaming milestone than BotW did. Shy of the physics, the game didn't do anything new or innovative. Meanwhile, NieR Automata tried to tell a story that could only be told effectively via video games, while being just as fun. Guess which I respect more?
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>>380957972
WHAT RIVAL DEVS LOL
You're gonna pull the Witcher dev out your ass again?
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>>380958046
Well it's certainly not open world.
The "Zelda franchise" then I guess?
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>Calls out weapon durability
>Calls out towers
>Calls out weak combat
>Slams the game with a 7/10
Is he, dare I say, /ourguy/?
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>>380958092
I parried shielded all of them with a wooden shield

you can do that day 1

since broken guardians only need 1 laser parry to die

fuck off casual
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>>380958092
I bet you ran like a pussy from the lynel near zora too.
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>>380958092
>That image
Does the bitch want her baby to be deaf?
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>>380957923
No, it's called grinding. Yes, combat should be important, but I shouldn't have to go out and farm swords before I get my adventure on.

A well designed world has things to do in it, it lives and breathes and your actions within it have some weight. Ocarina, Wind Waker, and Majora's Mask all did this well, you took actions and they had repercussions. BoTW doesn't feel like it has a story so much as a monster filled sandbox.
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BotW as a collective experience will never be surpassed, these months have only proved that BotW is "hey, have you tried... The Game" because of the sheer amount of possibility you have with it, I pity the idiots that either haven't played and are shitposting right now or turned BotW into a tedious experience by making the same shit over and over again.
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>>380958105
>Shy of the physics, the game didn't do anything new or innovative.

Objectively speaking, that's utterly untrue. But I don't care. Later today, there'll be another 500+ post thread with people in salty denial. And tomorrow there will be more. It's been like this for 4 months now.
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>>380958209
Why are you farming swords whyyy
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>>380958092
>That's how most people played.
Again, can you prove it or you're just projecting?
>Don't bs me and say you defeated all the enemies at the foot of a tower instead of just climbing that shit.
I only avoided fights when I couldn't get out alive, not because I was afraid of breaking a couple swords out of the 15 I had.
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Babby's first Skyrim.
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>>380958158
>WHAT DEVS LOL
>WAIT THOSE DON'T COUNT
>>380958183
>faggots like these are so desperate to have their hot contrarian opinions validated they'll defend a literal cuckold because he has shit taste like them
Every time.
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>>380958105
>NieR Automata tried to tell a story that could only be told effectively via video games
The first NieR already did that but it's seen as a steaming pile of garbage.
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>>380958209
>but I shouldn't have to go out and farm swords before I get my adventure on.
You don't. How stupid are you? Guess what happens when you defeat 90% of the enemies in the game?
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>>380958324
This game is literally harder than skyrim
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The last good Zelda was Wind Waker, and half of that was left on the cutting room floor.
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>>380958158
>W-Witcher 3 is b-better than BotW!

Witcher 3 devs talks about how amazing BotW is and how other open world games pale in comparison.

>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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>>380958350
The first NieR is a misunderstood masterpiece.
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>>380958363
Outside of the first hour where you don't know the controls no, no it's not
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>>380958167
>Well it's certainly not open world.

Kek! The denial is off the charts!
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>>380958246
What did it do that was new or interesting? Seriously, I own the game. I felt the controls were unintuitive, the story was pretty standard fare, the dungeons were "meh," the enemies were limited in variety if you take out the reskins+additional health, as well as rather uninspired. Motion aiming controls were horrid on the Wii U

Aside from the physics, which are very fun, what is there that's new or innovative?
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>>380958427
I agree, my point being though that Automata won't be seen as a gaming milestone it also has some absolutely horrid game balance issues very similar of FFXV's problems.
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>>380958459
Yes it is. Skyrim suffers from the same problems like instant healing and being equipment based, but you get better equipment much much faster
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>>380943024
What I really liked about the game:
It's super interactive with multiple objects in the game having different interactions with each other.
The ability to climb just about everything gives you an incredible freedom of movement never seen before in a Zelda game.
They give you the Sheikah Slate abilities early on, giving you a fun toolset to approach the same task in different ways.
Enemies are more aggressive than they have been in previous 3D Zelda games and have more complex attack patterns.
The heat system is a neato burrito concept for the game.
Being able to pick up any weapon and use it for your own.
The enemies that are supposed to be scary actually feel scary In the early game
Things I dislike:
The lack of proper expansive dungeons. The divine beasts are really cool, but they are short lived and suffer from a lack of...
Enemy variety is abysmal.
Great Fairy Upgrades trivializes most enemies by being too strong.
Only two of the four divine beast questlines feel fulfilling.
No way to repair damaged weapons.
Bullet time shooting with the bow trivializes Lynel fights.
Not enough towns.

Overall I loved the game and sunk more than a hundred hours into it, but it is definitely a flawed game.
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>>380958494
>be me
>don't be a casual
>have been gaming for more than 2 decades and seen a lot of games
>can objectively judge things
Sorry for activating your almonds anon.
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>>380958519
What I liked about Nier:A is that it clearly didn't give a shit about balance. Turn it on easy with all the auto chips and it was literally impossible to lose.
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>>380958350
I'm who you responded to, and the first NieR is my favorite game of all time. My GOAT before that was Secret of Mana, which held the title for 2 decades (I didn't get NieR immediately upon release).
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>>380958618
>be me
>>/r/eddit
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>>380958194
I actually didn't know there was a lynel near Zoras domain.

Shut up anon, fighting the same boblos is different from fighting lynels or any of the other mini bosses.

Now let's stop arguing and talk about our first lynel experience.
Mine was in some snowy area with pillars like in the lower middle of the map. I saw some big figure in the distance and thought it was a giant boblo. Still had only 3 hearts but I wasn't stressing. As I'm making my way towards it, it starts charging at me. All I could think of during that split second is how could boblos be that fast. Finally realize last second that it wasn't a boblo. Tried to block but get shat on immediately.
It was exhilarating. What about you?

I still think this game is only an 8
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>>380958324
>B-baby's furst open wurld!

Top kek. I see this all the time. The irony is that BotW treats the player with more intelligence and respect than most it's peers. You're probably one of those kiddies who thinks violence/nudity/swearing = mature content. Hilarious.
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>>380958589
>No way to repair damaged weapons.
You can repair champion weapons.
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>>380958565
I'm not saying Skyrim is better, but fact is you can parry/flurry every attack in BotW. If you understand that it's very very difficult to die in combat.
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>>380958618
>my opinion is objective fact
Hahahhhhshahahha he keeps trying
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>>380958642
If they were to remake Nier, and I'm talking a remake not a remaster, to make the gameplay more smooth then it would probably be in my top 10.
That's my dream honestly that they remake it.
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>>380958642
>drakenguard 3
Now that game was shit
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>>380958702
Keep your pedoshit on /a/.
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>>380958513
http://www.gamesradar.com/were-all-talking-about-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-developers-explain-how-its-shaping-the-future-of-games/
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>>380958798
4chan = anime
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>>380958702
>posting such filth
You should be ashamed
Post more
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>>380958798
No, I like Zelda and anime - deal with it.
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>>380958589
Oh, and I forgot to mention that there is literally NO incentive to try to cook any of the actual dishes in the game. It's better to just slap a bunch of ingredients with the same qualities in a dish for buffs and to only use Hearty stuff for health potions.
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THERE ARE PEOPLE ITT RIGHT NOW WHO WOULD DEFEND THE VOICE ACTING.
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>>380958692
I think that if you're going to make a game open world, you had better give the player reasons to explore. Some people prefer storied sidequests with the occasional neat item as a reward. Some people just want more health/stamina, or a collectathon of stuff like a pokedex. Neither is inherently bad, but I prefer the former, of which BotW is rather sparse with, and NieR is rich with. If you prefer the latter, I can see why one would prefer BotW. But there's nothing all that revolutionary about BotW aside from its physics.
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>>380958183
Yes, he's adhd
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v/ will never get over Breath Of The Wild.

The ass sting will reverberate for the ages.

I will always remember the past 12 months on this board. Watching the same people who devoted so much time and energy to discrediting the switch and Breath Of The Wild - from spreading lies to cherry-picking screenshots - doing everything within their ability to make the console and the game seem bad.

Only to watch their jaws drop in absolute fucking horror as the Switch burst out the gate as a massive overnight success and BotW turned out to be, not just Game Of The Year, but one of the best games ever made.

Fucking glorious. Almost 4 months later and I am still sore with laughter.
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>>380958965
Latin American and Japanese VA are top tier.
>he still tries to pull the VA angle after the international updatd
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>>380958965
>implying I didn't immediately switch to the Japanese voices
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>>380958951
>NO incentive to try to cook any of the actual dishes in the game.
Each stable has a unique recipe that will give you very good abilities.

>>380958886
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>>380958972
Anon, you're not allowed to talk like that. It's either you love BOTW or you don't. Go shitpost somewhere else please.
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>>380958818
>http://www.gamesradar.com/were-all-talking-about-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-developers-explain-how-its-shaping-the-future-of-games/
>Full disclosure: Ismail thinks Nier: Automata will prove to be way more influential than Breath of the Wild in terms of game design
btfo
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>>380958785
I would like to see Square get Platinum and Taro to remake the game from scratch. And with the sales of NieR Automata being so good that Square is literally bringing out a special edition console for it, I wouldn't say all hope is lost on that front.
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>>380958787
No arguments from me.
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>>380959041
>>380959042
I only played during release month. They finally added the rest of the languages?
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>>380959036
Imagine being this delusional
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>>380959125
Yes, an update lets you select whatever VA language you want without changing the console's language.
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>>380959125
so you shitpost in all caps without being knowlegeable about the patch

nice
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>>380958972
>I think that if you're going to make a game open world, you had better give the player reasons to explore.
BotW captures the exhilarationof exploration better than any other game.

There's nothing all that revolutionary about BotW aside from its physics.

Wrong. You just don't want to accept it that's all.
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>>380959170
Imagine replying to pasta because you're this new.
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>>380959170
Anon, in case you hadn't noticed, it's true. Oh dear.
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>>380959270
>BotW captures the exhilarationof exploration better than any other game.
I disagree, although I explained why I disagreed.

>Wrong. You just don't want to accept it that's all.
What else is revolutionary about it? Just list a couple of things.
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>>380959337
http://www.gamesradar.com/were-all-talking-about-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-developers-explain-how-its-shaping-the-future-of-games
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>>380959204
Well Shieeeeet. I had no choice but to play in English. Some people were able to inject the jpn voices into the US version or some shit like that but I think I'd have to start over.
>>380959238
>still playing BOTW after all this time
I have other shit to play anon. Jeez, how many hours are you'd putting into that game?
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>>380959376
Not reading an article. Just list some things.
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BotW is a great game but it doesn't stand a chance against the true masterpiece.
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>>380959390
some people are getting their switches just now
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>>380959376
Shut the fuck up man. Botw isn't going to shape shit. Screen cap this. Save it on your desktop and come years later with one game that's molded after botw.
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>>380959270
>BotW captures the exhilarationof exploration better than any other game.
Subjective, I personally didn't find anything exhilarating about the exploration. I had one or two moments of "oh neat" in the 30 hours I played, but there were no huge surprises. In general, I would find exactly what I expected as I climbed a mountain. Couple shrines, some enemies I'd already fought before. A new* weapon or something. There's really very little to actually find.
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>>380959486
>TFW still can't find one
It's like the Wii all over again.
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>>380959376
>>Full disclosure: Ismail thinks Nier: Automata will prove to be way more influential than Breath of the Wild in terms of game design
You hurt your case every time you post this ya know
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>>380959401
You don't want facts and opinions from people who know more about video games than you ever will. Okay.
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>>380959486
Did you pre-order your Xbox one X?
>>380959563
Should've pre-ordered like the rest of us. Now you gotta wait till summer. either that or pay up to 500 bucks for one on ebay. Good job.
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>>380959604
Yeah, he's the salty sonybro in a sea of other devs.
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>>380959607
>facts and opinions from people who know more about video games
>Ismail thinks Nier: Automata will prove to be way more influential than Breath of the Wild in terms of game design
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>>380959687
>facts and opinions from people who know more about video games than you ever will
>"well except the guy I disagree with"
you guys are too much
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Neir sucked too.
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>>380959563
Or you could just get an old Wii U, since that is cheaper, has more games available for it, and you don't need to drop 70-80 bucks on each additional controller when you want to play multiplayer games.

>>380959607
>You don't want facts and opinions from people who know more about video games than you ever will. Okay.
I don't want you to appeal to authority. If something is revolutionary, like the physics, or, in NieR's case, the storytelling, you should be able to list it without appealing to an authority over a 2000 word article.
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>>380959792
I already played it on Wii U, I want a Switch for Splatoon and Odyssey.
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>>380959767
what the fuck is the point of this soggy disgusting mess
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>>380959838
it's a test to catch european spies

if you can't eat it in 30 seconds, you're not american and they can shoot you by law
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>>380959837
Those games aren't going anywhere. If it takes another month or two for you to get one, so be it. Maybe you'll even get the hardware revision.
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>>380959693
>>380959767

So tell me about how you disagree with that article. I'm sure it must rustle them jimmies.

Want me to link a few more articles from other devs in awe of BotW? Can your ass take the pain?
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>>380959838
imagine the smell
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>>380959954
>Ismail thinks Nier: Automata will prove to be way more influential than Breath of the Wild in terms of game design
I agree with parts of it yeah
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>>380959954
Not him, but why don't you make your own arguments?

Otherwise, I will kindly ask you to watch and refute this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NiyfG8Ctbo

It's only half an hour long.
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>>380943024
no, fuck off tasteless faggot
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>>380960062
>>380960072
But I think Neir is a great game. I own more than one gaming device you know. I'm not a salty fanboi, see how that works?

BotW is still GOTY. You know it.
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>>380959954
I think they're saying the article you linked disproved your point. I didn't read that shit though, it looked poorly written.
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>>380960228
Yes, I own both games as well, and think that BotW was only revolutionary in its physics. You keep saying no, and appealing to an authority over a couple thousand word discussion from people I don't know and have no reason to respect any more than you.

Make your own arguments. Why is Zelda revolutionary in any way other than physics? What does it do that other games don't do?
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>>380959954
Based Janice Griffith.
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>>380960062
I agree that Nier is an excellent game, but it will have little influence compared to BOTW. The number of devs and publishers telling us that they have "still a lot to learn" after playing/learning what BOTW's open world is about is absolutely astounding.

Let's be honest about nier, no matter how good the game actually is, it's very niche.
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Yes. The overworld is massively overated and so is the 'you can do anything!' aspect.

Still GOTY but the second coming Christ part is down to Zelda actually making a good game for once this decade.
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>>380943937

>Cemu Screenshots.

Not legitimate.
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>>380960228
I also own all platforms, I thought BotW was boring and tedious.
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>>380960346
Niche has nothing to do about "revolutionary." That's not an argument. WHAT is revolutionary about Zelda, aside from the physics?

Your answer should sound something like this:

>NieR is revolutionary in the way it blends different genres, as well as the way that it tells a story.

Try it. A link to an article is not a response, but an appeal to authority.
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>>380960476
>Nier is revolutionary for the way it tells a story
*blocks your path*
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>>380960553
How is that any different than how a film could tell a story? In what way does it tell the story in a way that film could not?
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>>380960476
That's not about being revolutionary, you fucking idiot, that's about have any influence at all. That's not the same thing.

Uncharted and Tlou are NOTHING revolutionary at all, they inspired dozens of games after them, however. Look, even fucking God of War looks like a TLOU clone.
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