Mechanically and artistically, these two games are, without question, the best platformers of all time. You cannot debate this.
A few simple skills with a high ceiling for mastery, coupled with beautiful art direction, level design, level and gameplay variety.
The soundtracks are also among the best and most memorable in gaming. DKC2 is David Wise's with not a single bad song on the OST.
DKC2 is an improvement on the original in every way but the original is still a 9/10 on its own
If you weren't old enough to play them on SNES or even Gameboy you have no excuse not to.
https://youtu.be/J67nkzoJ_2M healing sound dope af
Yoshi's Island is better in every way.
>>380940840
I consider DKC2 to be a perfect game, and it's the only game I hold to that standard alongsideTetris.
Is that acceptable? I really can't think of a flaw in DKC2.
>>380941130
DKC2 = YI > DKC
>>380941130
No one asked about your shitty opinion, tard
Just like no one wanted you to be born.
>>380940840
i'm less inclined to want to replay the first one; the leap of faith gameplay when looking for bonus levels was bullshit
I am also one of those of the view that DKC3 was great too. I only recently learned it was made by a B-Team at the time, but I still found it comfy
>>380940840
You are my nigga
The games hold up completely even today
>>380941270
The only opinion here is that DKC can even be compared to Yoshi's Island. Yoshi's Island is better in every way, and that's a fact.
The DKC games were always 4/10 games at best. They, along with Yoshi's Island, were responsible for a new breed of platformer where collecting trinkets was more important than quality level design, quality gameplay, and quality world design.
I like the first one more.
Tropical Freeze is better
>>380940840
They aren't even the best Nintendo-published platformers on the SNES. DKC games are, at best, mediocre.
>>380940840
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9jfeq_ZrHo
Shovel Knight is easily better.
DKC games are old and clunky.
>>380941749
>>380941606
Retards, completely dense twats
favorite boss was the sword in dkc2
something about dodging and rushing over with the hooks really did it for me.
>>380941809
>if you don't overrate babby's first platformer you are a dense twat
SMW is better than DKC 1 and 2, so are Yoshi's Island and Kirby Triple Deluxe
>first one mechanically
no
>second one aesthetically
also no
>>380940840
I agree completely
>>380941980
>overrate babby's first platformer
>proceeds to claim TD is better
The True Arena doesn't make up for 80% of the game being piss easy.
>>380941980
>and Kirby Triple Deluxe
Triple Deluxe was pretty weak. It's nowhere near as good as SMW and Yoshi's Island.
>>380941980
>Triple Deluxe
Fuck outta here with that shit, you would be better off saying Robobot or
Super Star Ultra
>>380941980
I hope you slipped and meant Super Star because most are not going to praise
>waiting for things to let you fucking hit them: the game
>>380940840
Mechanically and aesthetically this game, without question, is the best 2D platformer of all time.
DKC is great but DKC will never be the greatest 2D platformer in a world where Mega Man or Mario exist, never mind at the same time.
>>380943313
Shame nobody owns a bloody Wii U
>>380941381
Yoshi's Story was better than Yoshi's Island.
>>380941227
Yoshis Island>DKC 3=DKC>SMW>DKC 2
>>380940840
I'd agree with you. If I hadn't played Tropical Freeze
I unironically agree wholeheartedly
>>380943597
It is a shame, it's a perfect 2D platformer. Thankfully you can emulate a Wii U. It's probably gonna be at Dolphin levels of efficiency by next year
>>380940840
No, DKC has control and momentum problems in its platforming. Enemies hit boxes are also loose and messed up. Plus its coding is sloppy, but it gets a pass because it pioneered rendering.
>>380941980
>so are Yoshi's Island
Nah, Yoshi's Island is about as terrible as the DKC games.
>>380943881
Kirby Super Star > Mega Man X > Mega Man X2 > Kirby's Dream Land 3 > SMW > Mega Man X3 > Bubsy = Yoshi's Island = DKC1 = DKC2 = DKC3
>>380944165
I really want to play it butI don't even have anything capable enough for proper emulation
@380943814
You're not even getting a (You) for that low quality b8
What do you guys think of the 2D Rayman games (1, Origins, Legends)?
>>380940840
>platformers
>plan on jumping just before stepping off platform you're on
>fall and die because the extra few inches of it wasn't actually coded to be solid and was just its art going off the line
>you have to trial and error when one of the various "platforms" begins and when they end
DKC is fucking great though
>>380943313
The gameplay is great but the music is too busy and the visuals substitute the punkish grit of the Rare games for a safer, more outwardly goofy aesthetic
I'd like to point out that DKL3 is the hands down best platformer on the GB.
>>380944990
I don't understand how that's possible when SML2 exists.
>>380944923
Fantastic, somewhat unappreciated and I don't think they quite carry the same challenge, but as platformers they're ridiculously fun
Reminder the best "Donkey Kong" is Donkey Kong '94
DKC3 was better.
I never played donkey kong country as a kid but I remember wtching the game grumps episodes with Egoraptor shitting all over it and Im inclined to agree, these games fucking suck are are overrated as shit
>>380945170
Objectively correct taste and the best taste in this entire thread.
>>380945170
Hell yes, nigger. DK on the GB was the killer app for the system. Hell, it was the killer app for the Super Gameboy as well.
>>380940840
What's wrong with III?
>>380944956
sounds more like
>plans on jumping just before stepping off platform you're on
>fall and die because you ran off the platform instead of cartwheeling/rolling and jumping in mid air
>couldn't even test the length of your jump on land
>>380945170
Correct opinion: the post.
>>380943313
>rehashed music
>washed up david wise
>destroying the physics of the old DKC games
>casualized
>absolutely forgot about the kremlings
No thanks
>>380945183
DKC3 is slower, floatier and has more "puzzle" style levels than actual platforming.
>tfw played the dogshit GB and GBC iterations of DKC years before the real deal on the SNES
Kinda poisoned me on the whole franchise.
>>380944486
Okay DKC2 is at least above Bubsy c'mon mow
>>380941749
>clunky
Post discarded
>>380945247
Tetris was the GB's killer app.
DK94 is still fucking stellar though and nothing compares to the feeling you get the first time you advance past the opening levels and realize it's a hell of a lot more than just Donkey Kong on the GB.
>>380944923
1 has some balancing problems since the devs straight up admitted they didn't play test it at all but it's decent
Origins and Legends are fantastic games with really good control and satisfying feel
>>380945421
Nah, I don't think so.
>>380945293
>Casualized
>All reviewers complaining the game was too hard
>>380943814
Yoshi's Story was a piece of garbage made for kindergartners, it's not even on the same plane of existence as Yoshi's Island.
>>380945170
>wanted to buy Donkey Kong Land as a kid
>see Donkey Kong, figure that's what I'm looking for
>it's not the game I thought it was
>it's the best game on the system
Lucked out on that one, really.
>>380941130
t. Assblasted Miyamoto
>>380945621
Depends on how you define hard. The game is love with fall apart level design so if you stay still for a second the vine you're clinging to will snap, the platform you're on will crumble, or some giant instant death obstacle from the left side of the screen will get you.
>>380945651
>Yoshi's Story was a piece of garbage made for kindergartners, it's not even on the same plane of existence as Yoshi's Island.
But anon, Yoshi's Island was a piece of garbage made for kindergarteners.
>>380945605
Why not? Bubsy is legit sonic but 100 times worse and without something like the ring system making it borderline unplayable
>>380945621
>modern reviewers complaining about anything being hard
Aside from that, difficulty does not make a game good. The game had a myriad of other problems
>>380945502
It's a fair argument to make since Tetris was much earlier in the lifespan of the console, so I'll concede that point, although I do think Tetris has gotten significantly better with the new mechanics added. However, there's no way you can argue that DK wasn't the killer app for the Super Gameboy.
>>380945780
>Yoshi's Island was a piece of garbage made for kindergarteners.
Yoshi's Island is 100% ludo.
>>380941272
You can tell it was made by B Team. Worse design and that fucking stupid baby Kong
>>380945824
I find the DKC games borderline unplayable with their wonky hitboxes, input lag, dropped inputs, and strong gravity.
>>380945876
>there's no way you can argue that DK wasn't the killer app for the Super Gameboy.
I dunno anon. The whole draw of the Super Game Boy was playing Game Boy games on your TV and in color. I don't recall any single game pushing sales of it. DK94 makes use of the SGB better than any other Game Boy game barring Space Invaders though.
>>380940840
Man, this is so weird. I hadn't thought about or played these games in literally over 10 years until just the other day when, for no reason at all, I decided to watch full playthroughs of them on youtube for nostalgia's sake, and now this thread.
You pretty much nailed it.
>>380945984
Holy shit. That's gotta be tas, right?
>>380945984
That gave me anxiety just watching
>>380946224
I'm pretty sure Donkey Kong was the game that Nintendo used to push the SGB.
>>380945621
That's because reviewers think "Hard" means " I died a lot.
Dying in a level means absolutely nothing difficulty-wise if you have 271 balloons for lives.
>>380946279
Nope
>>380946326
>I'm pretty sure Donkey Kong was the game that Nintendo used to push the SGB.
Metroid II was the game on the box. DK94 was only advertised on the back with a single screenshot and a circle.
>>380946274
OP here me neither actually. I just started replaying 1 on an emulator because I got nostalgic. My childhood friend had 2 and I borrowed his copy once but never finished it. Finally getting a chance to finish it now and it's blowing me away. I actually prefer the GBA versions for the stats screen and other various improvements, but the art and music on the SNES is still the best
>>380945984
>Fluttering to avoid platforming, the thing that you're supposed to actually fucking do in a platformer game
Just as bad as SMW's cape.
>artistically
you mean technically and for their time. the actual art direction was pretty bland and not memorable or interesting separated from the wow factor of pre-rendered 3D sprites in an SNES game
in retrospect I'd say that they're some of the ugliest games on the SNES
>>380940840
Where's DKC3. Why is that game always forgotten about. Shit is mad comfy.
>>380947056
It's not even close to as good as the previous two. The music was unforgivably terrible, and the art design inferior. I never even bothered to get very far in the game because it was so disappointing.
>>380946948
Technically yes but also artistically. Character design is excellent. Enemy design is creative and charming. Levels have a nice progression through the map that makes sense
>>380947345
It's DKC. It's a good game.
>>380944486
>>380943881
Fucking hell what shit taste
You are like a little baby watch this
>DKC2 > DKC = SMW > Yoshi's Island >>> DKC3
>>380947345
You have absolutely shit taste.
DKC3 is easily as good as DKC.
>>380948162
>DKC and DKC2
>good
What shit taste.
>>380946054
Get good faggot
>>380948181
wrong it's trash and I kiss the dirt beneath the feet of the first two games
>>380948221
I bet you like sonic you shitwipe failure
>>380948013
It's a macabre desecration of the Donkey Kong name
Even with the fancy graphics of today, nothing nuNintendo has made in their 2.5D platofrmers looks really as inspired as notCanada in DKC3, let alone anything from 2.
Though the second world in tropical freeze got pretty close.
Superior platformer reporting in.
>>380948162
Let's be real here. DKC3 is leagues better than Yoshi's Island.
>>380945984
>red coin farming
holy shit
>>380948596
No, it's fun
I came here just to say that OP is a moron
>>380943881
dude what the fuck are you doing?
>>380948665
A fine action-platformer maybe, but the movement and jumping aren't all that great
>>380940840
But the Game Boy games were separate titles.
Donkey Kong Country on GBC and Donkey Kong Land 2 were ports of the SNES games. Donkey Kong Land 1 and 3 were unique games with separate stories from DKC1 and 3 respectively.
They are far weaker, btw.
>>380943313
I didn't like the controls
>>380948496
Sonic 1, 2, 3&K, and CD are all far better than any DKC game, but being better than DKC is a very low bar.
>>380948856
This poster is a genetic disaster with terrible taste, probably has a hard time forming opinions of his own and wipes standing up
>>380948665
Vectorman blows ass. It plays like a proof of concept demo that you pitch to the guys who will turn it into an actual game.
>>380948596
>It's a macabre desecration of the Donkey Kong name
No, DKC's pre-rendered sprites and backgrounds as well as not having Mario in-game at all were desecrations of the Donkey Kong name. Hell, Donkey Kong himself wasn't even a main character of DKC2 or 3.
>>380949025
>bumping into shit: the game
No skill just autistic memorization
>>380949196
It's Donkey's own game you fucking mongoloid idiot it's his country.
2 was about Diddy and a great game. Great connection to the original with a new twist
3 was shit and should have had Donkey back in it
>>380949217
>Rolling into shit and collecting stupid trinkets for percentage points: the series
I can dismiss DKC too.
>>380949025
Sonic level design is so hit and miss it's not even funny, fuck outta here
>>380949339
>playing for percentage points
We can agree to disagree. I find the pacing and feel of DKC to be the more fun experience.
>>380949431
>>380949395
Also this DKC had way better level design
>>380949339
>collecting stupid trinkets that unlocks new levels
fixed that for you chris-chan
>>380948964
I wa talking about the ports for Game Boy Advance which is identical, if not superior in some aspects with the exception of sound and graphics
>>380949395
DKC level design is so hit and miss it's not even funny.
>>380949431
The games put your percentage on the file select screen. Percentage points are obviously a large focus of the game and the games chastise you for not collecting everything or finding all the bonus rooms when you beat them.
Also, the graphics are frequently busy messes. There's way too much shit going on in this screenshot, for example.
>>380949832
Sonic sucks