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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK-CQYdkKoM

New direct feed footage where you can hear sound/effects and music. Its got Prime sound affects and a cool remix at ~9 mins

will this be the best handheld Metroid game /v/?
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>>380936141
Other M also had Prime sfx.
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>>380936141
>direct feed
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>>380936141
Prime isn't canon and neither is this game. Prime babies on suicide watch
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>>380938596
How isn't it canon?
Because you said so?
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>>380938596
>remake of extremely canon game
>not canon
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Bad ass Metroid game on 3DS that is 2.5 dimensional. Nothing but a fun game to play and shows the franchise will live on.

And /v/ are the only faggots that will bitch and shit post over it. You niggers are wearing me thin. Thank God my time is almost up here.
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>>380939081
>my time is almost up here
What did he mean by this?
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>>380939081
Excuse me, I go to /v/ and I don't bitch about this game. It looks like it's gonna be fun as hell.
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>>380936141
That isnt direct feed
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>>380938736
Its been stated a million times. Different universe
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>>380939081
2.5 3d on a 3ds will only look like garbage
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>an ign host who actually seems to like games and isn't a fake faggot

well i'll be damned
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>>380939449
That was also a mistranslation. Everyone knows that by now.
You're obviously a shitposter. Have fun with your (You)s and try not to spend them all in one place.
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>MercuryStream
It's gonna be irredeemable shit and you know it. That's what /v/ has told me, so it's already been decided.
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Why the fuck is SR388 next to a black hole?
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>>380939531
I can smell your desparation from across the screen Switchcuck
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Hopefully it does well enough that we finally get Dread.

>Retro sneaks in reference to Dread in Prime 3
>Gets removed in EU release
>That removal carried over to Trilogy.

Reeee
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looks legit good but i'm still not sold on the 3d models

is sprite art really that expensive?

i think even that faggy indie cel shading would've been better. 3ds can't really handle 3d models well enough to be as immersive as i want from metroid

still day 1 buy tho
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>>380939871
That "reference" was a complete coincidence.
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>>380938596
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>>380939930
Normalfags legitimately prefer 3D and consider 2D "laziness", so if this question comes from anyone else just let them know this.
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>>380939940

Why did they bother to remove it then?
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I think the only thing that worries me from the spot played here is the counter attack making the Metroid fights much too easy. The alphas in the original were pretty tame, but could be tricky as they buzzed around the screen.

The zetas and omegas were real bastards because their only vulnerable spots were a little area on their chest. I hope the counter stuff doesn't trivialize their fights, as half the fun of the game was pushing through tense encounters with gammas, zetas, and omegas as the save stations and recharge opportunities got further and further apart.

That being said, I did more or less like what I saw (wall jumps - hopefully single wall jumps are doable!).
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>>380936141
That dude looks like fucking Brucie in real life
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>>380939531
Who gives a fuck, it's free.
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>>380940353
disgusting degenerate pirate
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>>380939184
The Nintendo checks are going to stop coming soon. So he can resume his life free of shilling on /v/ shortly.
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>>380940230
They seem to be taking the fusion approach in difficulty
Some hits from the Zetas were doing 2 full energy bars worth of damage and that was only in normal
So the mechanics aren't too difficult but any fuck ups will be punished hard.
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>>380940230
>The zetas and omegas were real bastards because their only vulnerable spots were a little area on their chest.
You're confusing it with AM2R. Missiles hurt them from anywhere.

https://youtu.be/XjhaJjc5TeA?t=120
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>>380939618
Source on minstranslation comfirmation?
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>>380940909
I'm glad they're remaking it. It's always been kind of silly that one of the most important games to the entire franchise was a half-baked Gameboy game that to any other series would be a spin-off at best.
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>>380940795
Fusion wasn't difficult at all though
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>>380940230
>yfw there are enemies that bait for counters
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>>380941104
>half-baked Gameboy game

Fuck off. Metroid II is great.
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>mfw I pre-order the special edition already
I hope it sells well, we need to make sure it does.
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>>380936141
This actually looks great. I'm definitely buying it when it comes out.
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>>380941119
Some stuff was if you didn't get the pattern immediately like nightmare or the spider thing.
And enemies did a ton of damage, random mooks were dealing 40+hp a hit and bosses hit especially hard.
This is in comparison to super Metroid where everything just kind of tickles you.
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>>380940445
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FUCKING EUROPE ALWAYS GETS THE BEST EDITIONS
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>>380941396
The only thing that really looks good from all that is the keyring.
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At least the melee attack and the scanner are optional, and if you want more difficulty you can simply not use them
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>>380941104
While I agree a remake has been long overdue, Metroid II did give us the varia suit's distinctive shoulders
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>metroid prime feel

I'm loving this already.
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>>380941164
This. It didn't age all that well but I think it still stands well enough. When I was a kid, it was Metroid II which got me to really play and finish a Metroid game. The first Metroid never appealed much to me.
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Why didn't Nintendo announce this sooner?

They could've delayed Fed Force a year and just announced them together. Then nobody would have freaked out about Fed Force
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>>380940353
>being a pirate in Samus' presence

I urge you to reconsider.
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>>380942403
I feel like everyones main problem with Fed Force was literally how it looked. If it wasnt chibi it wouldnt have gotten any hate
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I know there's always been way better tracks but this one has always been my absolute favorite, probably because it was my first metriod

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCIH943auRA
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>>380942456
This Anon knows his shit. I may have hacked my 3DS and downloaded a lot of crap from the Freeshop, but even I am going to buy this game on release day.
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Best Samus is Samus with suit and no helmet
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>>380942456
>samus raises arms
>head gets crushed
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>>380942573
To be fair, it's one of the few good songs from the game at all. The game has too many ear-raping and jarring songs. This is one of the ones they got right, because it goes for melody, not for the weird atmosphere they tried to get into other songs.
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>>380942605
Well said fans have been crying for this best support or they pull a Capcom say there's no audience for Metroid
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>>380942456
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I'm so excited I made this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrdxo-QsxtU

No bully
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>>380942573
This is actually one of the best Metroid themes. It's seriously underrated and I hope it gets remixed well in Prime 4. I hope Samus Returns' version is good too.
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>>380942898
fucking saved
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>>380942898
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>>380942898
If there's one thing we can all look forward to enjoying, it's more Metroid OC. Especially space pirate variety.
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>>380942456
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Rush job shat out after AM2R takedown confirmed.
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>>380943008
reminds me that I got to do a remix of Metroid II's title track years ago for the Harmony of the Hunter 101 album. I was a little green at the time, but it was a fun project. Loved the main tracks of M2 and always have. It's only recently that I appreciated the weird ambient tracks, too!

https://soundcloud.com/ec2151/the-lady-returns-title-theme-metroid-ii-the-return-of-samus
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>>380939871
What reference are we talking about again?
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>>380938596
>2D Metroid game
>not canon
Get the fuck out of here, if you don't like the 2D games then you are not a Metroid fan.
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>>380943953
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>>380939758
Retcon?
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>>380941396

>EU gets a whole bunch of trinkets
>NA just gets the soundtrack
>AU gets fucking nothing

I thought Eurofags hated Nintendo? Why do they get all the best stuff?
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>>380944206
Europe is literally Sonyland, it's not that NoE wants to do all this pandering shit, but they pretty much HAVE to in order to compete. NoA has a decent enough foothold in America that they don't have to try as hard.
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Prime series
- Halo + Zelda clones
- everybody loves it

Other M
- classic Metroid mechanics
- everybody hates it

Metroid fans are bad
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>>380944529
Other M shitposting doesn't work anymore.
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>>380941396
>tfw you live in a 3rd world hole
IT'S NOT FAIR
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>>380944206

Nintendo basically has to beg Europe to give a shit about them.

No one cares about the Australian market. I don't even think they play video games.
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>>380936141
>people talking over the gameplay the whole video
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>>380936141
God damn, this game looks sick, I can't wait to get it in the fall. After that then Metroid Dread is next for the 3DS in 2019. This is just like what happened with the GBA in 2002 and 2004, this is going to be a great year.
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I don't think it'll surpass Zero Mission but it looks quite good.
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>tfw it's 2002 again
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>>380941396
>[Importing Intensifies]
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>>380945623
2002 was a good year for vidya
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>>380945326
https://youtu.be/HK-CQYdkKoM?t=6m27s

>this motherfucker just called her Sarah
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Shit looks great, the Prime sfx make me feel at home. I can't wait to play a new 2D Metroid.
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>>380944652
>tfw you live in a part of the world with 80+ degree weather

IT'S NORFAIR
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>>380941396
Fuck anyone know any euro shop sites that ship overseas?
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>>380945770
Sarah is the one playing the game
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>>380945770
I think he was talking about the person playing.
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Is this the best year to be a Nintendo fan?

>new console
>new Zelda
>new Mario
>Metroid 2 remake
>Superstar Saga remake
>new Xenoblade
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>>380945861
*16 bit chanting intensifies*
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>>380940061
Honestly couldnt get into any of the primes, 3D metroid is disorienting and 2d games are usually more easy & sometimes more appealing visually.
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>gameplay mostly looks okay
>Metroid 2 was already a good game so a remake will surely be as good or better
but
>melee counters
>MercurySteam
>Sakamoto
I'll pirate it when it leaks and then buy the special edition if it's actually good
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>>380936141
yeah
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>>380945623
>No matter what happens, I will always have a game for you
>Nintendo's the best
>They know what I want even before I do
>Now who wants Metroid?
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>>380946067
>>380946069
>We'll let Sarah fall into the water on purpose
>Oh, I think I just killed her

My mistake, the guy made it sound like he was the one in control. I wasn't paying attention to the guy since his face isn't gameplay.
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>>380946242
"easy on the eyes"
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>>380946126
I thought the Yoshi game looked incredible even though happy go lucky platformers aren't my thing.
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>showing gameplay on Treehouse
>suddenly, Lower Norfair music

muh fucken dick exploded. can't wait

unfortunately /v/ will shitpost and pirate this into oblivion
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>>380945623
Now the cool thing is. That Prime took place between 1 and 2. Essentially explaining what Samus did in the down time between those two games. Fusion dealt with SR388 again, going back to a lot of the stuff of Metroid 2, if even just to reference.

Now, it's essentially the same once again. The portable is SR388, it's Metroid 2. The 3d is Prime, but it deals with Sylux, someone that stole Federation tech, as well as a Metroid egg. This will be the tipping point. This will be the thing that causes the Federation to try to research the Metroid homeworld further and when they get blown the fuck out, they send in Samus.

It all comes full circle.
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>>380936141
Tried to watch but this faggot buzzed douche kept shitting the video up with his voice.
This celebrity video game commentary shit is fucking stupid.
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>>380946723
Wasn't SR388 destroyed in Fusion?
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>>380946723
>one E3 Shiggy said he had Metroid Prime in his bag but that he "couldn't show anyone because it's all they'd be talking about"
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>>380946864
Yes it was. Completely vaporized.
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>>380946864
Yeah, Samus crashed BSL into it and vaporized both.
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>>380946864
Prime 4 is before Fusion.

Metroid > Prime games > Metroid 2 > Super > Other M > Fusion
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>>380945770
I thought it was because that was the name of the person playing it here...
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>>380947181
We know it's before fusion?
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>>380947236
It more then likely will be. Tanabe said he wanted to do something with Sylux, we see Sylux in Federation Force with a Metroid egg. If they want to do something with Metroids, it has to be before Fusion. Samus in Federation Force also had her old suit and not the Fusion suit. So we know it's timeline placement as well.
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>>380947369
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE DREAD WHEN
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>>380947369
Who says he didn't just sit on it for a few years?
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>>380947434
I think they said something once about continuing the series past Fusion, they were just waiting for the right time. More then likely they just don't know where the hell to take it. Fighting against the GF doesn't feel very Metroid like.
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>>380946864
he means that whatever takes place during metroid prime 4 BTFOs the federation so hard that they decide to immediately exterminate every last metroid
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I just can't trust it 100% that it'll be good with MercurySteam developing, even if Nintendo are overseeing production.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BCPx2SX7Hk
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Does anyone know when MP4 will take place? I know we have literally zero info on it, but any guess?
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>>380947557
It could be like Alien 3. Put Samus in a prision planet. I think the main problem Nintendo has, is Samus shooting humans.
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>>380947880
Literally read the thread.
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>>380947557
I don't know why everyone thinks Metroids past Fusion have to be Samus VS GF
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>>380947852
Glad he's back.
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>>380947797
We've gotten a good hour or so of gameplay footage out of treehouse and such, seems like enough to form to an opinion.
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>>380946723
I think with Prime 4 we will go past Fusion. The lab grown metroid egg at the end of Federation Force has to be post Samus Returns/Super, as the federation still had access to natural SR338 metroids before the events of these games, and god knows how long Sylux has been trailing Samus. For all we know sylux views samus as a threat to the galaxy now that she is basically a superweapon(part chozo part x parasite part human) and the metroid he steals is basically a way to take her down.
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>>380947797
It already looks way better then the shit that Mercury usually peddles and everyone that's had a hands on says it plays a smooth as butter, which is more then Lord of Shadows can say where every action felt like it was happening seconds after you press the button.

>>380947880
It will probably take place before Metroid 2 still. Story will be Sylux trying to use his pet Metroid as a means of intimidating the GF. Samus gets sent after him. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if we get to see the Metroid evolutions in Prime 4 as well. Samus relays this information to the GF, they freak out that Metroids are even more dangerous then they had expected and send a research and scouting team to SR388, suddenly no response, so they send search and rescue, once again, dead, so they send an extermination squad and still get blown the fuck out.
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>>380945861
kek
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>>380947557
Well looking at Fusion, Zero Mission, and Samus Returns I already have an idea where I believe they will take it. Fusion dealt with the GF, Zero Mission and Samus Returns expand on the Chozo, so I see Metroid Dread taking place on a Chozo planet with a GF facility built in it, the animals in Samus ship will lead Samus to it and in the game Samus will find out more about those animals, the Chozo and possibly how far the corruption spreads within the GF besides fighting another galactic threat.
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>>380948056
Not him but Prime series will always remain between Metroid 1 and 2 because the Metroids were alive then.
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>>380941396
>be euro
>get pandered to aggressively
>dont buy anything but fifa
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I hope you boys like heels. They weren't retconned.
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>>380948426
Can't see shit, she looks flat footed to me. Really heels aren't much of an issue, it's that they were 1, so tall and 2, that they made her so short.

Samus should be at least 6 foot even outside her suit, wearing heels should have only made her look taller then that.
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>>380948389
Why though? If the main series ever goes past Fusion which is a decidedly metroid free galaxy, then so can the prime games. Primes main thing in the trilogy was always Phazon energy and the metroids existed as a distraction more then anything.
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>>380948426
I really don't care.
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>>380948213
What I would like it that it takes place after Super but before Fusion. The Federation had to get their new metroids from somewhere and Samus exterminated everything naturally occurring and the Pirates wouldn't be sharing. Maybe Sylux holds onto the metroid and eventually sells it back to the GF in exhange for some new tools to take down Samus.
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>>380948759
Because Tanabe wants to use Metroids and they were alive before Samus wiped them out in Metroid II/Samus Returns, that's why.
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>>380948839
Conceivably the Space Pirates might have some metroids somewhere in their territory as per Prime they are capable of capturing them on their own. It's the GF that needs Samus to do anything with metroids (Federation Force not withstanding).
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>>380946375
>indivisible
nigga that trash is an RPG, valkyrie profile ripoff
get that shit off that list
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>>380948759
Because letting Prime series go past Fusion just makes things confusing, esspecilly now that there are so many games with Prime in the title.

It's not just 1-3, it's Hunters and Federation Force as well. All of these games take place in this time frame between 1 and 2. Which was originally suppose to be only a year, but I expect that is getting retconned hard with this remake.

>>380948821
Unlikely, Sylux probably hates the GF more then he hates Samus. He views Samus more as a tool of the GF, take out the GF, the Samus problem gets solved too. I will give you that it makes more sense for the GF to get DNA from this Metroid Sylux has, then trying to salvage the DNA off of Samus' suit in the second Zebes mission in Super, or that they somehow had enough time to get a DNA sample before Ceres exploded.
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>>380948821
That's technically Other M. GF scrubbed Samus suit to get metroid dna. Fusion then shows why they did that. Sylux is part of the Prime arc, and that was about the actual Metroid Prime.
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>>380948821
I doubt it. IIRC the only reason Sylux hates Samus is because she associates with the Galactic Federation. He hates them primarily, and Samus by extension, not necessarily for anything she's actually done. Working with GF wouldn't really be his first choice when he could potentially sell to the Space Pirates or some other independent.
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Since my thread isn't getting any responses, i'll ask here. I just played my first Metroid yesterday and just now finished it after /v/ recommending that I start with Zero Mission. Now what do I play?
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>>380949212
russian roulette
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>>380946375
What makes SotN better than AoS?
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>>380949212
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>>380949279
What do you mean?
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>>380949212
Prime
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>>380949282
Shield Rod
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>>380949212
Super Metroid, then Fusion, Metroid 2, then AM2R if you're up for it.

After that, consider ROM hacks like Hyper Metroid and Project Base for Super Metroid, and Metroid Rogue Dawn for the NES original, though you should at least play the NES original for a bit. It's rough as all hell but still worth looking at.

and then yeah the prime games like that other guy just said, those are all pretty fuckin good.
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>>380949212
Well, if you want to play them in order, Metroid 2. If you want a similar experience to Zero Mission, then play AM2R. Super Metroid if you don't care about Metroid 2.

Or you could go for a 3d Adventure and play Prime 1. Takes place between 1 and 2. I hear Dolphin emulates it rather well.
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>>380949319
>>380949342
Why Prime next? What's the best order to play them in? I won't play the pinball one or the original Metroid II if AM2R is better. Can any of you guys speak for AM2R who have played Metroid II?
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>>380949129
>Because letting Prime series go past Fusion just makes things confusing, esspecilly now that there are so many games with Prime in the title.
This, it's a sub series, it's never supposed to go past the main games, especially since Sakamoto already gave hints of finally pushing the series forward with Metroid Dread (Metroid 5).
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>>380949212
Should've started with super tbqh. Play that next, then Fusion. But Metroid is like Zelda for newcomers:

>alttp = super
>oot = prime
>first and second games are rough for youngfags, so play those last
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>>380949212
Metroid/Zero Mission
Metroid 2/Samus Returns
Super
Fusion
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>>380948821
That could work too. Samus taking on the SR338 job at the beginning of Fusion could be a result of her dealings with Sylux and the lab grown metroids.
>>380948839
Except you know, Samus should have no knowledge of lab grown metroids until after Super, and unfortunately Other M. If there is one thing they are consistent with when it comes to this series is that there is a clear storyline and not even Tanabe would be stupid enough to slap a storyline based on lab grown metroids way before Samus even learns about em. She wouldn't even be in agreeance for the SR mission if she had that knowledge, let alone allow the baby to be taken from her, Prime 4 with the current speculated plot would completely undo the story of Super.
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>>380949451
Metroid 2 is dated, there is no getting around it. It's still a fun game, but if you hate being bound to a tiny screen with enemies that will easily hit you when they spawn from off screen, it will get very frustrating.

Prime is recommend simply because it's next in the time line. You'll see references to the fall of Zebes and Pirates evacuating to other strongholds, Ridley's first ressurection and some other stuff.
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>>380949632
There are lab-grown Metroids in literally the first game.
The Space Pirates stole one Metroid, and there were several in Tourian.
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>>380949681
So how is AM2R as a remake to Samus Returns? Is it like how Zero Mission is to the original?
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>>380949632
See>>380949456 and this guy>>380949129
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>>380944180
There is no way this wasn't intentional. Maybe it was sneaked in by some employee and overall meant nothing, but 'Metroid Dread' was a HUGE rumor back in that day. To just outright namedrop it like that is no coincidence.
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>>380949632
The idea of lab grown Metroids isn't native to Fusion or Other M. The original Metroid was all about Cloning a single Metroid through Mitosis using Beta rays. Samus wouldn't question a bunch of new Metroids showing up unless she saw a bunch of GF symbols on cloning machines and we still don't know where Sylux got the egg, only that he had it.
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>>380941163
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>>380949730
Right, lab grown by the space pirates. Federation Lab Metroids come much later into the timeline, and that is after the events of Super. If she knew that the same people who were sending her out there to take down the space pirates were doing the same shit the entery timeline collapses into itself. The only way Prime 4 could theoretically work is if she learns about em, agress to destroy SR338, and goes after the baby because she doesn't want the federation to pull the same stunts. But even then that is a stretch as after Other M she should have no reason to work for em with the second BSL incident.
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>>380945861
>Only 80+
This is what we call Norfair
>95+
And this, is what we call a Norfair that has ascended past Norfair, or Lower Norfair for short.

Just wait.

AND THIS

IS TO GO EVEN FURTHER BEYOND

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>120 degrees
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>>380946375
Honestly, as a fan of Metroidvanias who has been playing them for over 20 years now, Hollow Knight and Rabi Ribi belon in a tier above Super, SOTN, and La Mulana.
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>>380949162
Was that established anywhere? From playing Fusion it sounded like that just happened to be a sample the GF had from Super. I'm not sure what the time gap between Super and Fusion is supposed to be but I doubt it would be such a small amount of time that you could acquire a meaningful amount of metroid cells from whatever was left on the power suit.
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>>380950107
I know that feel
>tfw AC is broken
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>>380939871
Thats still in the NA trilogy release if I recall correctly.
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>>380950229
Had that happen to me 2 weeks ago. Got home, opened a window, and felt as if I had just opened up an oven.
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>>380950093
How would she figure it out though? Sylux telling her? She has no reason to believe anything he says at that point. Though Samus has been shown in various media as not trusting the GF even at the current time. So this whole "if only she knew" is rather moot.

Aside from that, we don't know when the GF decided to start trying to use Metroids. We know that the one the Space Pirates stole was right from the GF themselves during transport. They could have seen the same potential as a weapon that the Space Pirates saw, otherwise why bring a dangerous creature off world? Their wanting the eradication should also have ultirour motives. It would ensure that the Metroids that are already with the GF would remain hidden and under their control.

Also the Bottle ship had special shit JUST for housing Metroids. There wasn't much time between when Samus was wandering after Super and she picked up the distress call in Other M. So they managed to get that big a stock of Metroids and a fully grown queen? They weren't just cloning them either, they specifically mention that the Queen Metroid was birthing them all. I think they had that place pumping out Metroids long before then. The thing that changed was getting Mother Brain off her suit, not Metroids.
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>>380950228
It was always a sketchy plot point. They originally tried to sell it as DNA samples taken from the Baby Metroid just as it arrived at Ceres. Samus did stay for a bit for the scientists to run at least some tests about Metroids energy capabilities. Someone could have left the station before Samus herself left and Ridley attacked.

But then Other M happened and the whole DNA stuff on her suit was gathered right after she was recovered when Zebes exploded. The shockwave knocked her out and she was picked up by a federation vessel waiting for her. They took samples right after the battle, so that was possible too.

In either case, it is likely they were lying or at least half truthing that the DNA they used came from the hatchling metroid.
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>>380949747
pretty much exactly, yeah

>updated to GBA graphics and controls
>kept all the classic enemies and level layouts from the originals
>but also added new items, areas and bosses as a bonus

original metroid's translation to zero mission was basically the model that was followed making AM2R

which worked because zero mission was great
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>>380950229
>tfw 40C/104F
>tfw no AC at all in my life just a shitty fan
help
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>>380941396
So uh, where can I import this?
I got a hacked 3DS so playing the game is no issue
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>>380950778
It was heavily implied that the Metroid Queen was a clone of The Baby.
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>>380936141
>Confirmed new bosses so it's not just Arachnus
>On the other hand the new bosses/enemies will be created by Mercurysteam and probably be as creatively bankrupt as Federation Force
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>>380951494
Then they would have had to have some way of heavily accelerating Metroid growth since it doesn't take long after Super, not even a few months. The whole of the bottle ship had to have existed before then. The BSL as well, since it was apparently a well known research vessel. They would have had to convert an already existing vessel to house these projects.

>>380951723
>Mercurysteam knows they are creatively bankrupt
>just steal straight up from AM2R
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>>380949451
Since no one answered the question regarding the pinball, metroid ii or am2r, here it goes:

Dont bother with pinball unless you're into that kind of thing. Metroid II is very dated but since the series is continuity heavy, you should do one of 3 things depending on what you prefer.

>Ideally, play Metroid Prime Trilogy, starting with 1 and then in order. They are cronologically after Zero Mission/Metroid and before Metroid II
>If Prime Trilogy is unavailable, go into AM2R. The remake is widely considered one of the best if not THE best Metroid game there is. Its highly customizable, fixes a lot of issues that the original had and the gameplay is tight. You'll feel right at home after playing Zero Mission. Metroid II is VERY dated and linear. Its loved and a lot of the staples in the series start to show up here. If you're hardcore into experiencing the original, go ahead
>If you dont care about hunting sweet Metroids and are a faggot, go into Super Metroid. Dont spoil yourself. Its the greatest game of all time, not even joking.
>Play Metroid Fusion. After all those great games, Fusion will feel like a letdown. The story, ambience, style and soundtrack are superb, but the gameplay is meh and its very linear right down to the climax. Its the last game chronologically.

Good luck on your missions, anon!
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>>380936141
>two new Metroids
>one of them is fucking 2D
It's getting harder and harder to ignore Nintendo
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>>380951096
Yeah, looking into it a bit more it seems really sketchy. The GF had at least 2 separate metroid cloning programs going on, the Bottle Ship and then the BSL station, that are both supposedly sourced from the Baby. The Bottle Ship is metroid sample came from Samus' armor and then the BSL came from ???? There is enough grey at this point that metroids being returned to the universe would not surprise me at all. Honestly, the way things are going I'm sure there are X parasites in some GF facility somewhere.
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>>380951913
Give yourself to the N, anon. You know it's only right.
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>>380950778
How would she find out? Easy. Between Prime 3 to Super, technically any and every metroid in existence is only on SR338. The pirates hijack the lab at the start of super because its their last chance to rebuild themselves, ergo if Prime 4 happens before Samus Returns and Samus has to deal with Metroids outside of the planet, its source has to be from somewhere else. Not to mention that the way the egg was presented haf it like their only egg, which means what, the federation was super fucking lucky Samus absorbed the baby and they recovered Metroid DNA again by sheer luck? Yeah no I don't buy it.
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>>380942573

Metroid II was also my first Metroid. Also, I've never played Super Metroid, and I'm not a huge fan of the Prime series.

I'm hoping this vastly underrated track gets a good remix:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3ZsfpMBRmE
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>>380953078
This is going to sound so weird in Prime's synthy style.
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>>380953078
You need to get on that Super Metroid, boi.

One of the strongest atmospheres you will feel in a video game. The music blends with the visuals perfectly.

>beginning your journey in an unfamiliar world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wUKsr27iJo

>jam to some rockin' beats while shootin' some ayyliums
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sn9G-RHtII

>as you get deeper into the planet things become more treacherous
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pim1s_DBR64

>obligatory water level
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YIIfXWvus8

>temperatures so high you cannot traverse through them without proper gear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Kac33HH7yM

>all of this leading up to the fight to end all fights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrnmjjZcLMs

This isn't even half of it. Only a snippet of what's to come.

Go play Super Metroid.
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>>380946375
>La Mulana anything other than painfully obtuse bullshit
>Dawn in the same tier as Aria
>Circle of the Moon not shit tier
>Kurovadis good for anything other than fapping
>Fusion in the same tier as original Metroid and 2
>Aquaria that low
>Valdis Story that high
>Guacamelee not in meh tier
>Environmental Station Alpha not shit tier, falling for the "it's good under the shit graphics" shilling
>Order of Ecclesia nowhere to be seen
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>>380951913
But it's not 2D.
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>>380954486
You are dumb.
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>>380954381
>jojo
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>>380954739
>Deflecting to the reaction image
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TUUUUUUUBES
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>>380954790
>weebshit
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>>380954906
>Complaining about anime on a site made to discuss anime
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>>380953078
I quite liked AM2R's rendition. It's far more understated but still pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tpip5rkAqVE
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>>380954897
TUUUUUUUUUUBES
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>>380955220
TIED METROIDDDDDSSS
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>>380954964
>western trash
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>>380955580
>Implying Scrubs is bad
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>>380946527
it looked to samey, since it was just reusing the previous engine.
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>>380946375
>TMNT Radical rescue
>meh tier

This fucking picture triggers me every fucking time.

It was a really good game for what it was.
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>>380955972
Its using UE4, it just has a similar arts and crafts look.
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>>380954381
>shitting on ESA
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>>380938596
>Literally a fucking remake of Metroid II
>Not canon
How brain damaged are you?
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The new game's art style suck compared to AM2R's spritework and the physics look a little off. I didn't see any walljumping in any of the footage I saw, so either Treehouse is full of shitters that shouldn't be in the industry (entirely likely), or Wall Jump will be an upgrade that you have to find that will end up being completely neutered like it was in Fusion.

I'll still end up buying this game because it's fucking metroid, unless there's a huge shitstorm on /v/ when pirates get their copies ahead of everyone else.
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>>380941325
Luckily theres a hard mode patch
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>>380957461
Walljumping was used literally right after the scan pulse was aquired in the first treehouse demonstration.
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i dont really like the beam sound desu
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>>380957592
cool
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>>380957190
It's not good, you hipster faggot. Any Metroid-like or metroidvania where half your upgrades are "you can now break x-coloured blocks with no secondary function" is shit. Metroid already got this right from the start, bombs destroy blocks but also bounce you up and damage enemies, missiles destroy blocks but are also your main source of good damage, phazer goes through walls to activate some switches but also pierces enemies so you can hit several at once. ESA repeatedly gives you power-ups that do nothing but allow you to break new types of blocks, and often you'll just find a new roadblock immediately behind them if you backtrack each time.
It's a thoroughly mediocre game and people only defend it by saying "you care more about graphics than gameplay", when the gameplay isn't worth shit.
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>>380957961
The hookshot and mobility is excellent, the boss battles are good, the soundtrack is nice, and it has some of the best post game content I've seen in a Metroid style game. I'm not saying it's better than any of the other Metroid games. It's better than fucking Axiom Verge.

It looks like shit though.
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>>380957961
Wait what the fuck is Phazer?
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>>380958154
The one that goes through walls I think.
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>>380958271
That's wave beam, only plasma has the piercing effect.

you donut
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>>380958101
>It's better than fucking Axiom Verge.
I can agree with that much, at least.

>>380958154
I meant Spazer, but I was also wrong and actually meant the Wave beam.
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>>380957461
>The new game's art style suck compared to AM2R's spritework

A lot of AM2R's customs assets are actually not very good and look completely out of place in the game, plus it borrows heavily from Zero Mission which had a bad art style to begin with.

SR's art style is not only more cohesive, but better done too.
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>>380958353
But yeah anyone that says it's 10/10 or better than any of the Metroid games is fucking silly. But to call ESA shit is harsh, I had a lot of fun fucking about with the hookshot and catapulting myself up into places, I've also been bummed out that none of the Metroid games let you use a grapple beam freely.
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>finally start playing these games after the announcement
>start with ZM
>stuck on kraid
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>tfw Prime 4 turns out to be Metroid 5
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>>380958561
How. Get more missiles and spam the fucker.
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holy shit
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>>380957461

There is a walljump within the first minute of OP's video. People like you shouldn't be allowed to have opinions.
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>>380955379
MAKE SCIENCE!
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>>380959269
OH MAN I GOTTA TRY THAT
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>>380938596
>metroid 2 isn't canon
u wot
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>>380959343
AW MAN, I GOTTA TRY THAT
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>>380959546
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>>380959114
Is that the queen?
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>>380959114
I feel like even with future tech these Chozo statues shouldn't be as well preserved as they are.

50 years completely wrecked the Chozo place in prime.
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>>380951357
>tfw live in the desert
>tfw it reaches beyond 50C sometimes
>tfw it's cool at night
I'm not complaining. Feels like a fair balance
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>>380936141
>will this be the best handheld Metroid game /v/?
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>>380955220
>>380955379
>>380959343
>>380959610
...You have no idea how much I've missed fucking Space pirate posting. I am right now just so happy that we can now do such again in good light. I'm just really happy.
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>>380961167
I FUCKING LOVE TUUUUUUUBBBBEEEEESSS
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>>380961167
>no space pirates in Samurs Returns
>we'll have to wait until whenever Prime 4 comes out for more material
On the other hand, Prime was what gave us Space pirate posting to begin with, so I suppose that makes sense.
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>>380961618
It's pretty weird knowing 2 is the only main game without Ridley or the Space Pirates.

Though you could argue they weren't really "in" Fusion since every enemy besides BOX was just an X meat puppet.
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>tfw preordered Samus Returns on instinct
>all this casual horseshit like melee counters and Aeons kinda makes me regret it
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>>380946375
Charts missing ZX Advent which is a god damn piece of art underneath some poor decisions
Deserves to at least be in the great tier.
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>>380940289
YO YO YO!
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>>380962098
Casual horsehit in Ninty games exists so that the hard stuff can even be there at all. Its a blessing, trust me.
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>Sakamoto producing

So what will be fucked up in this game? Some extended cutscene where Samus cries and kisses the baby?
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>>380962172
>In/out doors connecting the world in a fashion that you can't easily visualise and remember
>No map
That shit was awful in Fortune Summoners and it's still awful in ZX and Advent.
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>>380961140
Did no one tell him that the critics were on Konami's bankroll?
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>>380959114
That's very creepy
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>>380941396
We deserve this much for being ripped off on Virtual Console purchases because muh 60hz conversions
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>>380939531
Looks better than Bloodstained desu. It just has less pixels.
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>>380962098
>melee counters
>casual horseshit
>"I enjoy not having any options when enemies are in my face."
Bet you hate free-aim too, ya fuckin' masochist.

>>380961985
Eh. Zero Mission had the extra bit at the end since it was so short originally. It'll probably be the case here.
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>>380946375
What's the best way to play Symphony Of The Night on PC?
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>>380966514
Emulate it in mednafen.
Alternatively play the PSP version in Dracula X Chronicles, but that has a redone localisation.
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>>380966514
Xbox 360 emulator.
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>>380962614
i hope he throws everyone for a loop and has samus shoot the hatchling at the end
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>>380936141
Man I really don't like the melee counter.
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>>380936141
Looks great, like a proper follow up to Zero Mission.
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>>380964331
>because muh 60hz conversions
?
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Melee counter seems like a really shitty idea, putside of that the game looks fine.
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>>380943350
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>>380968907
>Melee counter seems like a really shitty idea
Your opinion seems like a really shitty opinion
>>
Okay
no, wait...
why don't we take metroid...
and make it guacamelee
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>>380970097
>Has a massive leniency to the point that even the Treehouse chick who couldn't hit the broadside of a barn managed to parry 80% of the times she tried.
>Discourages trying to dodge since everything attacks so fast.
>Trivializes absolutely every encounter.
It's shit.
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>>380970825
You need to practice it to pull it off, and I'm sure you'll find enemies later on that can't be countered or very hard to counter their attacks.

It's like parrying in Dark Souls. Not easy, not everyone can do it, but satisfying to do.
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>>380938596
>Metroid II isn't canon
>Metroid II literally sets up Super Metroid
You're actually retarded if you're implying that 2 main line games aren't canon
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>>380966235
Better yet, there is gonna be ZM style postgame content along with the fact that they beefed up the map to be 2 times bigger.
>>380968692
Yep. Punch color pallete with thick outlines for the same kinda comic book style and a bitching soundtrack that spunds like ZMs Prime/SM hybrid spundtrack.
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>>380971064
>You need to practice it to pull it off,
I don't think you understand how lenient it is, the chick was missing constantly and it still counted as a parry. She never even timed it she just used it when an enemy hadn't even attacked yet and it would parry.

>and I'm sure you'll find enemies later on that can't be countered or very hard to counter their attacks.
We saw Zetas already having a parry timing of a year and a half with extreme tells before they actually attack. I sincerely doubt it's going to get any harder.
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>>380970825
If it makes you feel any better it was Mercury Steams idea.

>These Metroid battles aren't cinematic enough! We need a 30 second cutscene of Samus shooting bullets down it's throat

A couple of fights in Prime and Other M did this too. I hate it.
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>>380970825
>>380971064
Neither of you know DICK about how the game plays at all. Shut the fuck up and get out of my webzone.
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>>380971121
>ZM style postgame content
>Sakamoto wants to introduce Samus's relationship to the baby Metroid to modern gamers
Makes sense, actually. I don't really know what they'd insert to cover that that wouldn't seem like a retred of what they did in ZM, though. In terms of "games over, oh no crashed in a Space Pirate place or something" sort of way.
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>>380942958
sounds jammin anon 10/10 would give you a hug
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>showing so much of it
They really want to win back confidence
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>>380971091
They're not canon.
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>>380971254
It's easy. Just don't use counter attack when you play the game. Doing the counter attack on bosses gives you an opportunity to attack them during a cool actiony scripted scene. I really like this addition, makes the game less boring.
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>people bitching about melee, even though it makes sense to have melee
I thought for sure the Teleport Stations were going to be the main point of contention, but I guess I never realized how many of those cancerous git-gud fags that ruined Dark Souls our fan base had. For fucks sake.
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>>380971497
It's literally one guy complaining about Melee Counter attack and you went apeshit.
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>>380971478
>So that means if Other M is canon
That brings up good points for how pants-on-head retarded Sakamoto was when directing the game. But that's an anon's theory with no credible proof besides using Other M's terrible plot to back it up
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>>380960142

Remember that the Chozo who went to Tallon IV left behind much of their technology. It makes sense that they wouldn't be able to build things to as advanced a standard.
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>>380941163
>yfw there are enemies that counter your counters
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Looks great, can't wait for it.
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>>380971487
>It's easy. Just don't use counter attack when you play the game
The problem is that the way enemies move (In the footage we were shown) it wants you to parry rather than jump around them and counter with shots while you're on your way to landing. They beeline towards you while trying to ram you and it seemed like only the ground-based enemies could actually be jumped around.

I just don't like the precedence it sets for avoiding enemies now.
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>>380936141
>melee counter so you never get hit

Casualized and westernized. Fuck Nintendo Metroid is dead.
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>>380941163
>>380972050
so you know

I actually timed the bite attacks the Zeta does and the time is different each time.

you can notice it skimming through all the times the boss was fought in different treehouse days and interviews.
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>>380968793
EU gets charged more for 3DS Virtual Console because we get the US 60hz versions rather than the 50hz ones we originally had for our SNESs

I mean they're fucking ROMS Nintendo fuck off
you charge the US the same price for both Wii U and 3DS virtual console and they're STILL cheaper than over here
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>>380941396
when does this go on sale??
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>>380972894
kek, Nintendo's jewery never ceases to amaze me.
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>tfw when you once had a perfect steak at a restaurant
>so good you thought about it for months
>restaurant tells you they no longer serve that steak, please try the veal
>veal is ok but nowhere near as good as the steak
>keep eating the veal for years in the hopes that the restaurant brings back the steak
>grow tired and bored of veal to the point of getting physically ill of it
>nearly a decade later see the restaurant advertising they're bringing the steak back
>nearly shit your pants in excitement
>get to the restaurant and order the steak with a huge stupid grin on your face
>waiter arrives with big ornate plate, lowers it to eye level and then to the table
>you sit there in silence for a few minutes before bursting into tears
>the steak is actually just a bunch of mcdonalds hamburger patties mashed together
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>>380973730
>food analogies
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>>380973730
Is Metroid the shit or the waiter?
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>>380973878
metroid's a girl, idiot
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>>380950107
36°C here (southern France)
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>>380973946
>she actually is Metroid now
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>>380945453
>3ds

Fuck no. Put it on Switch you dinguses.

I'm okay with letting the 3DS live for now because of the install base and all but the thing should absolutely be dead by 2019 so they can focus all their efforts on the Switch.
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>>380951723
If all else fails then they could basically just copypaste some of Fusion's bosses. I wouldn't mind fighting Serris or Yakuza again.
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>>380973730
This is the worst analogy I've ever seen, kill yourself you fucking crybaby
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>>380936141
>at 5:16
>"this is when you first get to see a, uhh, Metroid... oh wait no, uhh"
>OH A CHOZO STATUE
>"w-wow, you know all the terminology"

The fucking Treehouse guy doesn't even know shit about Metroid
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>>380974052
>she actually is Metroid now

She has been since fusion where they combined Metroid DNA with Samus' own
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>>380974823
One could argue she has always been the Metroid since she has been destroying everything since day 1.
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>>380974637
Just like Nintendo
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>>380944206
>AU gets fucking nothing
It's still under placeholder so you don't know what we'll get yet dummy
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>>380974823
Nope she regained her original DNA when she absorbed the SAX
Confirmed by sakamoto himself
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>>380951723
Honestly, outside of the melee attack thing, how much actual design work is MercurySteam doing? It just seems like they're mostly doing programming and coding shit.

A lot of the actual direction and level design is coming from people from NCL. We know Sakamoto's producing, but the game's director and level designer is Takehiko Hosokawa, who was previously the system director and game designer for Fusion and as well as a level designer for Zero Mission.
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I wonder if this game will go into the fact the metroids were created by the chozo. Cause I feel that does get brought enough. Kind of ridiculously important, actually.

And speaking of story, if this game has cut scenes, they need to be short, in-engine, and rely on visual storytelling. It's Metroid for fucks sake, not Metal Gear.
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>>380966235
>"I enjoy not having any options when enemies are in my face."
Its funny you actually believe this is a bad thing. Instead of being punished for bad positioning, retards like you demand bike helmets for every situation rofl
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>>380971310
Well unlike ZM, SR338 is central to the plot of the next two games, and Super is directly after. So they either retcon the X existing much earlier OR they use the postgame as a prequel to Fusion, with the recon mission fully playable. Which also is nigh impossible as a post game suggests it working like ZM, with the remaining discovery precentile being there.
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>>380973730
>You slowly give up on the restaurant because small independent shops now start serving steaks instead of veal. One such shop even managed to make the steak better.
Its not all bad friend
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>All this crying over melee counter

Tbh it looks great and this is something I always wanted, too see Samus more physical in combat, it's stupid how having such and advanced armor she remains most of the time only shooting

Other M tried it but it was only QTEs because of the horrible simplified controls, this look like a step in the right direction because it is entirely optional
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>>380976290

Man I would fucking love it if SR had some subtle X foreshadowing in it.
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>>380936141
>People actually complain about the parry.

The parry looks awesome fuck off
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>>380959114
The fuck is that?
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>>380936141
>Now on 240p/30FPS
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>>380976290
>retcon the X existing much earlier
They were always there though. The metroids themselves were created as a means of countering them.

>>380976364
I will be highly disappointed if they miss that opportunity.
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>>380971478
All I see is that Other M is not canon
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>>380976364
Well it would make sense as they pop up again as the SR Mission resulted in the extinction of their predators, but we do know that it took a while for it to take effect. But I do think that the lower the counter goes, in the earlier areas X Parasite could start popping up and by the end of the game the frequency is somewhat higher. Not by much mind you, something like 2-3 encounters in each area.
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>>380974637
These people couldn't make it on the Treehouse stream for a reason.
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>>380977041
I meant retconning like them causing trouble, but I could see the BSL being built at the very end of the game.
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>>380936141
The music sounds great if anything. Looking forward to it.
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AM2R wasn't even that good people just overrate it because Metroid was dead at the time, everyone still clinging to it over a real remake is just trying to stir up shit
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>>380977248

That's already too much. I'm thinking there should be one in the whole game, at the very end. Maybe it can be seen in the ending sequence with the baby Metroid.

Actually, now that I think about it, this is a huge missed opportunity in AM2R. They included that bonus area full of fanservice - it would have been cool as fuck if that Hornoad was an X mimic just like in Fusion's opening.
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>>380971478
So either

a) Other M is not canon
b) Every other Metroid game is not canon

I wonder which one is correct?
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>>380943350
Metroid 2 didn't have Space Pirates.

Maybe Prime 4 will.
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>>380976364
>Sequence at the end of the game where the baby follows you back to your ship
>There's now a single Hornoad on the route back
>Samus kills it and an X Parasite pops out
>It tries to infect Samus just like in Fusion's opening sequence
>The baby sucks the life out of it before it can even get close
>Ending sequence continues as normal
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>>380971478
>Two people who never played Metroid talk about what's canon in Metroid.png
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Looks like an indie kickstarter prototype.
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>>380946375
>Shantae in meh tier

It's fair. I really wanted to like the first game, it did some good things and was beautiful for a GBC game, but things like the small screen compared to the sprites and whatnot really held it back.
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>>380941396
European here, can't find that edition anywhere. Only the one with the ost.
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>>380961167
It's the most low-key thing yet one of the most traditionally fun and cute jokes /v/ has produced. Space Pirates have been around here for like a decade and somehow never died off.
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>>380954897
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>>380954897
>>380978460
I mean, to be fair, they did steal the baby metroid in the beginning of Super Metroid.

So Space Piracy is theft.
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Why are there so many anons (or so many posts from sometimes the same anon) dissing AM2R now? I just replayed Zero Mission, AM2R, Super, and Fusion, in that order, and AM2R was not a lot worse in any aspect than the official games, and actually many instances was better or more fun.
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>>380978460
>the pirate copy is a mochtroid
I love the attention to detail here.
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>>380936141

Will it be as good as Hollow Knight ($15)?
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>>380946375
Zero Mission is better than Super. The game is incredibly fluid and so appealing to the eyes. Not saying Super isn't, but Zero is just better.
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>>380978283
The Space Pirates are adorable in how fucking stupid and insane they are. It's really little wonder they've got staying power.

One thing I definitely want from Prime 4 is for it to take a cue from Doom and have Samus gesture a lot. Specifically, a facepalm after reading a certain particularly retarded piece of Pirate Data. She simply must get tired of having to put up with that shit all the time.
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>>380936141
>and a cool remix at ~9 mins

Oh sweet jesus, it's glorious
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>>380979007
ZM looks like a cartoon, apart from the stealth section it's completely lacking in any atmosphere or tension.
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>>380968907
I agree. In the one clip from the counter to the return to regular gameplay, it is 10 seconds. I much prefer to remain in direct control of my actions rather than cutting "Action angles" and whatnot.
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>>380978734
People just trying to start shit, or people who think you genuinely have to be on one side or the other and can't just enjoy both remakes.
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>>380979230
I'm glad for both although from what I've seen so far AM2R is more up my alley. I prefer good pixel and spritework to 2.5d typically as on handhelds you get jagged lines that don't age well.
I'm excited, but a little worried about some things we've seen with Samus Returns. I'm still happy they're giving metroid more love though.
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>>380979171
time code of this 10 sec counter animation
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>>380950218

I hope you get ass raped to death.
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>>380979230
I wish these people didn't exist. They are probably the reason why Nintendo even thinks it has to take down "competing" projects instead of promoting them in any official capacity. Like imagine if Nintendo straight up took AM2R and offered it officially while hiring the developers, and still went on to release Samus Returns? It would show that they're really supportive of their fans. And they could use a lot more direct conversation with fans in tandem. I hate when corporations take various actions and say nothing to their customers or potential customers.
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>>380979497
The Queen Metroid you can see stalking you in the background which already makes it better then AM2R
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Why can't this just come to Switch too? I would buy a Switch earlier for its release instead of just waiting for Prime 4.
I really don't want to bother with a 3DS
>What's wrong with you?
Reggie, it's 400x240, it's time to leave the system behind. I'm not asking for better textures or anything, I already played Peace Walker for PS3 and know what I'm in for. But I just don't want giant pixels ruining the experience.
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>>380979708
No. It's too in your face about it. It's a nice attempt but it isn't something really special.
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>>380936141
>/v/ scared that samus can't run and aim at the same time
>it's shown that you can run and aim at the same time
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>>380936141
Have the amiibos gone up for preorder anywhere yet? Metroid's a cute and the pose and armor are far better than the Smash Samus.

>Samus Returns
>No more prissy armor
>Back to tank style with actual cannon instead of a baby bottle for a gun
>2d and 3d game announced
Hopefully they're both great entries to the series.

They should really add unlockable suits as incentive to keep replaying Metroid games. I mean sure you don't need incentive to replay the great ones but I always loved unlockable suits in the old Spidey games. Samus' unlockable suits could even have unique bonuses.
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>>380959114
>>380979708
Seeing the melee counter while standing still in the foreground kind of reminds you of why some are worried however.
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>>380979230
>>380979687
This shit's everywhere. Case in point, just the other day, people here were shitting on STALKER just because Metro was announced and people felt the need to really act like retards about it. The "us vs. them" mentality needs to be purged from this board.
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>>380979708
Not that anon but to be serious for a moment, that was the Queen?

That kind of doesn't make sense if I'll be honest. The Queen if I remember right is supposed to be pretty deep down and not very mobile. Also it's kind of weird with the 3D graphics. It would be more easily hand waved if in 2D because depth doesn't matter so much but here it's basically a map and it's weird not being able to just traverse into the depths to meet the glowing eyes.
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>>380980085
I'd be fine with the melee counter if it weren't for all the cinematic bullshit it does during metroid fights. If it just knocked them back and stunned them for a few seconds so I can shoot some missiles at them normally, that'd be fine.
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>>380980331
>people here were shitting on STALKER just because Metro

What the fuck, I thought /v/ adored STALKER. This place is fucked.
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>>380980356
It's likely just meant to be scenery representing some random SR388 creature and how the environment is hostile. There's absolutely no way that's the Queen.
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>>380980035
I like how they apparently insisted the metroid be squishy. Also, do we know what these amiibos actually do?

Also, what would the hypothetical unlockable suits do?
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>>380980417
I sort of concur. I dislike it shifting the angle and taking direct control away from you.
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>>380979882
I completely missed it until someone pointed it out
>3 second thing in the background is too on the nose
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>E3 reveals Metroid
>remember that Metroid fansite I came across and bookmarked back in 2010
>check it out
>site's still up and the admin's ecstatic with all the reveals
>check site's Twitter account
>his last post right before E3 had him in complete hopelessness and acceptance that there'll never be a Metroid reveal so why bother fooling himself into believing this E3 would be any different
>filled with joy and passion again after the double reveal
Not that big a Metroid fan but good for him
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>>380980447
I've been gone since September but ever since I got back suddenly /v/ has been flooded with shit taste what happened?
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>>380980331

>The "us vs. them" mentality needs to be purged from this board

You can't, it's a child behaviorism and we all know where we are.
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>>380980356
>>380980465
>large monster in the background with glowing red eyes
Maybe they're retconning Ridley into this game.
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>>380980085
>>380980417
The melee counter looks awesome as fuck though anon
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>>380980740
ledditors have joined /v/ and just shitpost endlessly, thinking that all you do here is talk shit about everything
it's really annoying
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>>380980545
It looks like it only does that for some scenes. You have complete control. The cinematic only happens on a critical hit
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>>380938596
>most important part of the overall story
>not canon
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>>380980891
It is really annoying since /v/ doesn't hate everything
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>>380980763
>>380980891
>>380980740
>>380980331

Bros, will we ever get a good alternative to 4chan that we can migrate to?
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>6:37
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
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>>380980554
How the hell do you miss glowing red eyes and steam noseflares?
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>>380981213
I was paying attention to the foreground
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>>380980869
Taking control away from the player to show the game doing something cool for them instead of allowing the player to do the cool thing themselves is a bit of a no-no.
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>>380981120
Just don't shitpost as much
>Rather then fix a problem just leave
Fuck off
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>>380980976
Fuck, the game has critical hit bullshit too now?
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>>380981304
It's just a reward for perfectly timing a counter. Also the camera angle changes if you counter a boss but you're still in control
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>>380942548

That was only such a huge deal since the last Metroid game before it was a decade ago.
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is it new 3ds only?

how does that aiming work?
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>>380981405
It's like the perfect parry system in Revengeance
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>>380981506
hold the left trigger and use the circle pad
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>>380981304
But the melee counter is the player doing the cool thing. You have to press the button to start the counter, and then you have to fire the shots yourself, using missiles or standard shots based on your input. And if the enemy hits back at Samus during the counter, you have to press the counter button again or else you'll just get fucked back.

Fucking end this meme already.
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In all honesty, I like all the new mechanics introduced so far. Seems like they actually came up with some good new ideas for this game.

The only one I think could lead to shenanigans is the Aeon Moves, depending how forgiving that energy bar is. Rapid Fire is the best one, because it's fucking Rapid Fire.

And the Teleport Stations mean I will have to put up with far less inane whining about backtracking!
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>>380939081
???

most of /v/ thinks the game will be decent form what i've seen

It's going to look a bit jankey since it's 2.5d but that's understandable. I would have sprite/fully 2d game but i guess they had to fill in 3d effects somehow and 2.5d is the best way to do it unless you just want glorified parallax scrolling
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>>380981561
can no longer aim, shoot and run. Then wtf is the point of the second analog nub??
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>>380980869
>Awesome as fuck

Reminds me of the old Bioware controversy.
>When you press a button, something awesome has to happen! BUTTON AWESOME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMcVZQI6ybw
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>>380980481
Light suit could perhaps reduce cost of the aeon abilities, like a solar powered back up.

Phazon Suit could give protection against lava/acid/etc.

If they had a bunch of different suits with different bonus abilities, and let you switch between them at save stations, it could be interesting for speedurns.
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>>380981563
Honestly it's like the people complaining haven't watched the gameplay or are just mad AM2R fans
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>>380981563
So it's a quicktime event.
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What's this about the Queen being in the background stalking you?
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>>380936141
Some really nice features, of course I'm going to get it.

But I don't think the 3D graphics "pop" as they put it. They look really bad, especially on the enemies and some of the objects like the blocks Samus was breaking in that footage.

Of course I'm going to get this, just so that the franchise doesn't enter another coma and die... but... what if AM2R was better?
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>>380981359
>Just don't shitpost as much

You don't need to tell me that. It's kind of like society. How do you solve a cultural problem without using authoritative force or banding together in a large force to fight back? You don't. Stuff like "but just behave differently yourself" never works. It's like telling people they shouldn't pirate or something because if everyone did then it would be disastrous. But things just don't work out that way and you're never going to get the desired social shift if drastic change is not implemented.
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>>380981684
Maybe it's people that are excited but worried at the time time from things they see in a series they care about.
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>>380981752
No
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>>380981567
I think I remember them saying that Aeon is actually a limited resource you can only find now and then and isn't farmable at all which is why they made it as powerful as they did.
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>>380981865
How is it not?
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Super and Fusion were amazing looking games, this is an unfortunate downgrade in visuals.
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>>380939081
The Majority likes everything so far. Only a few people dislike the changes but fuck them
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>>380962614
So far it looks and plays like a Metroid game, that's literally what you should be concerned about when it comes to Metroid.
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>>380981846
If they care so much, maybe they should actually take the time to learn what's going on with the thing they see instead of immediately jumping to conclusion with kneejerk reactions.
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>>380981937
How is it?
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>>380981684
>or are just mad AM2R fans

Stop. Don't give yourself any chance to be influenced by this mentality. See through what looks like fanboyism for what they really are - shit posters.
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>>380938596
Who fucking cares about the story in a gameplay centric series?
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>>380981647
You can shoot and run he was talking about the 360 degree aiming
>>380981653
Stop being dumb as shit the counter is fine since it requires some skill which DA2's combat did not
>>380981752
What? You're shitposting right?
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>>380982030
You push a button, it activates a sequence that takes you out of normal control and adds cinematic shots and angles as the game plays itself, with you pressing a button in time to do damage or block again, and then the game returns back to normal control.
It's a quicktime event.
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>>380981752
A quicktime event would involve the character doing everything while you just press the buttons as they come up on the screen.

Here, you press the button yourself to counter it. Right after, even when you do get the "cool shot", you get to choose whether to shoot or not.
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>>380971310
Agreed, I can't wait to see how this game will relate to Metroid Dread's development.
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>>380981937
You're not being explicitly told what to press and when to press it. You're acting based on what you see happening yourself. I guarantee people wouldn't be shitting their pants over this so hard if the camera stayed stationary through the entire thing.
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>>380977642

The AM2R guy was planning on adding a post-game scene with the X, but didn't get around to it. Apparently, it was going to reveal that the little green crystals that baby the Metroid eats were all X parasites frozen into snack packs. So some time after the mission, a Hornoad wanders into the empty nest, and then the X start waking up from their crystallization. Pretty neat idea, honestly.
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>>380982201
But why would you chose not to shoot? Is there ever any benefit? Can you move around during this on your own?
Or is it just a quicktime event, where if you shoot you succeed but if you don't shoot you failed the timing?
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>>380981834
I actually conducted an experiment on /v/ over the course of 2 years on newfags. I knew that some people on 4chan just want to fit in so I essentially copy and pasted my opinion in different formats on 1 game for 2 years and eventually people started to have the same opinion as me and developed the same writing format.

As long as you don't shitpost others will stop
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>>380949451

Prime is next in the timeline.

It's ZM>Prime>Hunters>Prime 2/3>Federation Force>2>Super>Fusion.

Other M is meant to be between super and fusion but retcons so much I refuse to place it im there.
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>>380982314
don't use it if you don't want
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>>380982283
Man, that would have been so cool and fitting.
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>>380982274
>I guarantee people wouldn't be shitting their pants over this so hard if the camera stayed stationary through the entire thing.
You're right. Removing control is bad.
Or do you still stay in complete control? Can you run around, jump, screw attack, lay bombs, powerbomb, choose between missiles and beams? When samus grabs someone do you choose how and where she throws it?
Or does the game limit your input to a few things while it cuts to cinematic action angles where you make timed entries?
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>>380982283
That's actually pretty cool to know. Thanks for sharing the trivia anon. (I am not that anon)
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>>380971478
The people in these images don't seem to know what a retcon is and the whole cold issue when Metroids' evolve have been corrected to be heavily affected by Samus's Ice Beam now.
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>>380982183
Those cinematic shots only happen during perfectly timed counters and you still have control.

You're argument is so fucking stupid that I could use it to say that all games are just QTEs you dumb Fuck
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>>380936141


Reminder the people at mercurysteam dont care about what old fans think they only want casual audience

>Enric Alvarez: The other relevant fact, and for me personally an important one, is gamers' feedback is essentially positive.
>Not from Castlevania hardcore long-time fans, because they hated us from the day we released the first Lords of Shadow

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-09-20-castlevania-lords-of-shadow-mercurysteam-konami
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>>380982123
I also was also referring to the 360 aiming. The old games had aiming at angles and you could run while shooting up or at angles. Seems to be removed for a full stop and 360 aiming.
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>>380982419
With things as central as this, being "optional" is disingenuous.
People have raised the Quest Compass in modern Bethesda games as an example. It's technically optional, you don't need to use it. But the game is designed around it and you aren't given good instructions on where to go or what to do otherwise because it expects you to use it.
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>>380982364
Well that's easier said than done. I mostly lurk and don't have much time to be posting. And when the shitposting gets really bad, there's not much you can do to stop it in its tracks right there in the thread. What you're suggesting will take a long long time if you really want to get rid of the problem entirely.
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>>380982448
You are still in control. Stop being so fucking nitpicky.
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>>380982642
You can still shoot at angles
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>>380982448
>>380982547
>You still have control
>do you still stay in complete control? Can you run around, jump, screw attack, lay bombs, powerbomb, choose between missiles and beams? When samus grabs someone do you choose how and where she throws it?
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>>380962614

No way Nintendo doesn't have him on a leash.
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>>380936141
It's still got Sakamoto behind it, so it's shit
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>>380982784
You know what? Don't use the counter then
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>>380982663
Its a simple solution to your problem.
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>>380982735
So you are saying that yes, you can choose to leap around, morphball, move as you see fit, use missiles or beams or powerbombs or screw attack like you can during normal gameplay?
Or does it take control away from you?
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>>380974578
>has two teams experienced in 343 hardware
>can use the same engine like last time
>Fusion came out 2 years before the end of the GBA's life cycle and and Zero Mission released on the year Nintendo replaced it with the DS
>Super Metroid also did this
>3DS will go beyond 2018
Dude it would be a waste making it for the Switch because it would mean fans would have to wait an untold number of years again. What do you really want to hear 2D Metroid is dead again for years to come? You should be happy they returned to their roots to begin with.
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>>380982857
>All Metroid games are now shit
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>>380936141
>when you have to watch someone who's shit at videogames showcase a videogame
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>>380974823
Back to normal at the end of Fusion.
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>>380971487
>The parry is hard bro just with like with darksouls
>oh wait no never mind its bro its easy but it doesnt matter! Just dont use it bro
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>>380982987
Yes.
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>>380982784
Does losing partial control for a whole five seconds in specific circumstances in certain boss fights really trigger you so fucking badly? Do you even play any video games other than Terraria and shit like that?
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>prime music
into the trash
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>>380982910
Not if the game isn't designed with that in mind as well. If the alternative is absolutely worse and an afterthought then it isn't a true choice.
People that don't like the quest compass can choose not to use it but the game doesn't bother to give directions at all because it expects you to use it.
The game could functionally punish you for not using its cinematic quicktime event counter attacks.
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Are there any 3DS emulators in existence that lets you pump up the resolution, framerate, etc? DESU I think this game could look a lot better if the resolution was higher, and I'm still willing to buy the game even if I play on an emulator.
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Oh, that reminds me, I think I saw in the trailer Samus grabbing an enemy with the Grapple Beam. I hope that's a thing, cause I would never stop doing it.
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>>380941396
Fucking yes.
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>>380982892
This. I think the counter is there to make things easier for some people, but you can entirely ignore it and get the good old 2D Metroid experience.

But watch people disregard this and keep complaining. This is on the same level as the people who complain that the modern Pokemon games are too easy because of Exp. Share. Something that takes about 10 seconds to go into a menu and disable. But people would rather go through hours with it enabled and then come to a Cantonese imageboard to complain about it.
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>>380983046
You sure changed your story fast.
>You have control!
>No you don't
>Well it doesn't matter you triggered fag!
Stop lying and exaggerating and address things as they are. Cinematic quicktime event counters are not a good thing to have in a game like metroid when classically they did fine without them, in my view. That is my view on this and I will express it because I feel it is a legitimate concern.
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>>380948426
Good. They're the only good thing to come out of other M.
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>>380983269
>You have control!
>No you don't
Yes you do, though.
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>>380982857
So even though this game plays like Super Metroid, Fusion, and Zero Mission, it's shit huh? So I guess by your logic those games are shit too, huh?

>>380982928
*3DS
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>>380982769
Ok good. All i needed to hear
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>>380939449
different universe =/= not canon
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>>380983332
This
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>>380983390
By my logic, Sakamoto doesn't know what he's doing. He's got like the opposite of the Midas Touch.
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>>380948426
Watching that 15 minutes of gameplay the Zero Suit does not have heels like in other M
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>>380983382
No you don't, you even admitted you don't. The game takes control away from you outside of a few timed and limited button options.
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>>380940061
>>380939930

It mostly comes down to Sprite artists becoming very rare nowadays. It's becoming a lost art.

IGA also mentioned this when discussing Bloodstained at E3. It's also more expensive to animate and a lot of normalfags assume 2D games should be cheaper by default.
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>>380983693
You can still freely fire whichever you choose and at the timing you feel is appropriate and you won't get hit while firing. That is control. You're just trying to be the next ACfag because there obviously has to be somebody trying to shit up Metroid threads when we finally get a fucking break for once.
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Anyone know how to get Prime 1 in the Wii Trilogy to display properly in Dolphin?
I either get a squished bar or some kind of flickering if I have XFB turned on
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It looks incredibly not shit, what's up with that? I hope they consider making 2D Metroids on the Switch too after the 3DS dies or something.
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>>380983814
>Castlevania gets a successor in 2.5D
>it looks terrible
>Metroid gets a remake in 2.5D
>it looks terrible

Will we ever get the cure for this curse?
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>>380983626
It's called correcting story shit happens all the time in fiction
>Bungie making the Forerunners a separate species by Halo 3
>The Master Chief only getting through everything including fights with luck retconned by Bungie that Master Chief was the only Spartan II that was a Hyper-Lethal Vector
>the Flood surviving Halo 3
>Bungie making it where Johnson just badass his way out of the Flood containment facility
It just means that developers came up with new ideas and need to make some changes to past game's story to make them work
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>>380984037
Or maybe even port this game. Because shit I really think a resolution bump would make this game look a ton of a lot better.
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>>380983827
No you retard, I'm just someone that is interested in metroid but not just burning with hype after being burned before.
You can't freely fire during the cinematic cutscenes. You are aimed on and the enemies lines up for you to mash the button to deal damage. It is a cutscene quicktime event. It does take control away from the player. Just because you can mash buttons in time with a cinematic event that is going on doesn't mean the game isn't taking control away.
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>>380984037
It's a remake so there's not a lot of room to fuck up. I also hope that we get the fucking sequel to fusion sometime this century and wouldn't mind it being on switch.
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>>380984051
AM2RFAG DETECTED
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>>380984080
>Sakamoto
>correcting

His game ignores every single Metroid game that existed. And besides, it's far from the worst mistake he made to the franchise. I miss Gunpei. He could've slapped some sense into the man.
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>>380984323
Everyone misses Gunpei.
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>>380984160
Then don't fucking trigger them, articifially critical faggot.
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>>380984191
Man, there's a lot of room to fuck up though. They could have made it ugly or clunky, but it actually looks really nice and Samus looks mobile as fuck.
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>>380984412
>artificially critical
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>>380984264
I like AM2R but I don't think most would agree that 2.5D in the way SR and Bloodstained have done it looks better than the 2D games that came before.
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>>380944529
If you truly believe Prime is anywhere near Halo just for being a FPS that happens to be in space, your lack of knowledge in video games is just sad.
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>>380984160
Holy fucking shit, enough. You have been rattling on about this bullshit for like an hour, and it needs to stop.

So what if the game takes control away from you for a few seconds? Will you really have that much of a fucking heart attack every time you hit a Save Station, a Map Station, a Recharge Station, a cut scene, a door transition? These are all instances of when a Metroid game technically takes control away from you. And guess what? It ain't just Metroid that does it. Pretty much every video game ever made will take control away from you for a few seconds at a time.

Get over it.
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>>380946375
>kurovadis
This will never not make me chuckle.
Now if kyrieru could just get his shit together and finish the remake and noaika
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>>380975143

You'll get nothing like always.

AUS always gets the short end of the stick when it comes to bonuses. You'll be lucky to even get the reversible cover.
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>>380984412
I fear the game may well be designed with them in mind, where "not using them" will be wholly worse than using them to the extent that it is functionally a non-option.
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>>380946375
>>380946375
>aria and dawn in god tier

patrician taste
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>>380984736
Anon, you know stopping to save and having control taken away from you during combat while the game plays itself with at most a few timed button entries or mashing is an entirely different matter. Don't be retarded.
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>>380984845
Well then the game is just not for your specific tastes then. Normal level headed people will enjoy a new Metroid game that still has good gameplay.
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>>380984080
Master Chief was a hyper lethal vector because of his luck

(Btw his luck is an injoke about you controlling him)
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>>380985061
I look forward to it anyway anon. I just won't claim that it looks perfect just because it's been ages since a 2d metroid game.
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>>380983060
How do you know the game will punish you for not using it?
Why are you all shitposters clinging to hypothetical facts to justify your criticism?
>the game MIGHT punish you
>the game MIGHT suck dick
Comparing a 2D Metroid to a Bethesda shitfest is frankly an insult, and the quest marker as a mechanic is an idiotic comparison to the goddamn parry because one thing involves combat and the other doesn't.
Take a guess which is which. Here's a hint: you're not gonna get lost if you don't use the parry.
Fucking dipshit.
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>>380985236
Please stop shitposting like a stupid fanboy anon. You sound like Neogaf defending Sony. People are allowed to express criticism or worries about a game both on its own and compared to previous games in the title.
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>>380984323
>I miss Gunpei.
We all do, but Samus Returns will correct some of Other M's major issues. Plus Smash 4 also corrected the Space Pirate thing.
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>>380985226
That's fine. Just stop trying to start the exact same arguments every single thread for this game. Because frankly, nobody will give a shit anymore if you keep trying this hard to make a big deal out of it.
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>>380985397
LOL I'm not that anon but you've just given away that you can revoke his claims whatsoever

Shut the fuck up you dumb shit
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>>380985236
Metroid isn't immune to shit games. Skyrim and maybe even Fallout 4 are still better than Other M and Fed Force.
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>>380985419
That retcon retcon. I love it.
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>>380985530
Fed Force is actually alright
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>>380985507
>LOL
Stop shitposting.
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>>380985043
Not according to your own logic. Taking away control from the player=bad.

And besides, why the fuck do you even care in the first place? This game is the most complex Metroid combat has ever been, and said combat ain't exactly a draw for this franchise as it is. Apparently I missed the memo notifying me that I'm supposed to give a flying rat's ass about the difficulty level of combat in a series about exploring your environment and finding shit that will help you explore more of it.
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>>380985650
No, stop with the strawman and hyperbole.
Removing control of the player during parts of the game that are meant to challenge you or have smooth gameplay so the game can do something cool on its own = bad.
Having your combat and gameplay and movement through the environment be stopped so the game can play out and animation for you is bad. It's halting and it takes you out of the game.
Stopping to save for a moment or download a map station is entirely different and you know that. If you try to argue it isn't, you aren't arguing against what I am saying and you are provably just having a strawman argument with yourself.
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>>380985642
Says the shitposter
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>>380985915
>No u
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>>380985089
I always see Master Chief deaths as god getting involved and making sure he didn't die by resetting time at a checkpoint.
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>>380985910
Well then clearly this game is just shit and should not be played. Congratulations anon, you've won the argument.
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>>380985419
>Other M was written so poorly that Sakurai had to come in and fix this shit
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>>380986218
I hope it's not shit. I don't think it will be Other M tier or anything. I don't think it will be as good as Super either. I just hope it's as good as Zero Mission. ZM wasn't even perfect but it's pretty damn good for a 2D metroid.
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>>380986523
Alright then.
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>>380985910
>It's halting and it takes you out of the game.
Whoreshit. And again, crap like game play flow doesn't mean shit in a game about exploration. Sorry to break it to you, pal, but this ain't Contra, and combat is not the focus. It's nice, but not what we're all allegedly here for.
Seriously, how the fuck do you play Metroid games while lacking even the slightest modicum of patience, you hyperactive retard?
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So glad this is coming to make up for that Prime bullshit.
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>>380942958
bretty good
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@380986774
Gonna have to try harder than that if you want a proper reply, boyo.
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>>380986734
>crap like game play flow doesn't mean shit in a game about exploration.
Stopping for 1 to 2 seconds when an enemy attacks you so you can do a super cool punch really breaks up the exploration. It breaks flow.
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>>380986734
Did you know that most metroid games are intended to be finished as quickly as possible and reward you for that?
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>>380986968
Stopping for 1 to 2 seconds to shoot enemies already breaks the flow of exploration.
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>>380987070
Bullshit you faggot. There is no reward or intended reward for how fast you finish a metroid game buddy. You've revealed that you've never even played one and are probably just a shitposter.
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>>380982364
It is pretty amazing that if you have an offbeat opinion and post it for a while soon enough other people on /v/ start having that opinion, I've noticed the effect myself. A literal echochamber
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>>380986272

Smash trophies had Itoi of Mother fame as the main writer IIRC.
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>>380987167
You're wrong even if you stop every enemy it doesn't break anything it just makes the game better. You are probably mad since you aren't good enough at video games to be able to pull off the cutscene parrys.
GIT GUD
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>>380987241
That explains why so many of them tried to be "funny" commentary on the trophy instead of anything informative or interesting about it.
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>>380985397
Well done anon, you answered exactly zero of my questions.

>>380985530
Other M was honestly ruined by the pants on head retarded story, but even the mediocre at best gameplay was better that a lot of terrible games out there. Not worse Metroid games, mind you, just worse games full stop.
Federation Force was a case of a fucktarded announcement timing, because apart from the chibi shit artstyle, the game itself wasn't even that bad. Generic and unmemorable? Sure, but far from bad.
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>>380986683
>>380986523
>>380986218
Alright then. This saves a lot of time.
Pact: When people express things they like or don't like, allow them to have their own views and opinions.
If someone says they don't like something you like allow them to not like it rather than attacking them or claiming they are shitposting or wrong.
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People are talking about eyes in the background, but I can't find then. Timecode anyone?
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>>380987530
>Pact: When people express things they like or don't like, allow them to have their own views and opinions.

If you are shilling then you can't so this.
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>>380987713

do* this
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>>380987070
Did you know that most of the games have started to phase this out in favor of collection percentage?

>>380986968
>>380987167
Criminy, could you imagine the shitstorm if they made a Metroid game without combat, that focused purely on exploration and puzzle solving? The fuckin' Metroid Souls crowd, that apparently exists, would kill themselves in droves.
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>>380987208
Fastest way is to make a popular YouTube video explaining your point. People complain about Trico's AI in The Last Guardian but if I were to accurately explain how his AI is close to an animals and is very similar to how Agro's AI works in Shadow of the Colossus then a lot of people would agree
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>>380987070

Only the 2d games.
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>>380987172
>There is no reward or intended reward for how fast you finish a metroid game buddy.
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Don't understand why people are more caught up on a logo for Primeshit 4 instead of full insight and gameplay to an entry to the main series. THIS is fucking Metroid
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>>380987623
Please, anyone? Stop shitposting and help a guy out?
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>>380987623
It's Dark Samus, hyper pregnant with a massive brood of Phazon mutant loli Dark Samuses.
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>>380988498
hot
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>>380988498
But wheeeeeere?
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>>380989024
The real question is
Wheeeere?
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>>380987459
I'll first answer your question with a question: Do you know of and understand the concept of Opportunity costs? When you are given two options you need to look at both the options themselves and what you're giving up on the other one.
>At certain times during a fight an enemy will do an action that will open itself up for you to start a quicktime event to deal extra damage to it
>You can do so and get extra damage during the fight
>Or you can... not do that
Oh boy, these options sound completely equal in mechanics and intent.
Games with a mechanic can often overfocus on that mechanic which leaves others more limp. Metroid Prime Corruption with the Hypermode mechanic for instance. When fighting bosses it is basically the only way to do real damage to them since everything else is so piddly and worthless. Since it also uses your health however, outside of the Hypermode Difficulty enemies don't do much damage and are more generous with health pickups, making fights more slow slogs until you get the chance to hypermode the enemy for real damage. That's not even from an abysmally terrible Metroid game like Other M.
Everything they have shown focuses a great deal on the new parry cutscene quicktime event mechanics to the exclusion of normal metroid fight gameplay. Now I expect this is because it is a new feature that films well for the more casual or new player to the series to try and draw them in. But at the same time it also makes it seem like they are giving this side of the gameplay more focus for that same reason which leaves normal and traditional metroid gameplay to whither from disinterest by the developer.
>in b4 you accuse me of autism for answering the question I didn't feel was worth answering after you bitched about not getting an answer
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>>380982598
Enric is a meme that even the rest of Mercury Steam hate. Luckily he's currently busy chasing the online bro-op shooter market with Raiders of the Broken Planet to shit up Metroid.
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Looks pretty good, can't complain about new Metroid. A little concerned about the counter, but I doubt it will be infallible.

Does anybody else think the screen looks a little cramped? Looks like it should be zoomed out another 20% or so to me. I know the gameboy game had no visibility because of hardware limitations, but I don't see why that should come back.
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>>380936141
A remake already exists, nintendo can fuck off.
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