>Brand new IP >Launched against Zelda >Sold 3.4M copies

Not really considering there's like 50 million more PS4s than the switch. Zelda would've sold like 10 million with the same install base.

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Can't wait for the Frozen Wilds DLC expansion holiday, it's gonna be great.

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She took a lot of abuse that girl. But she did good.

>>380913567
>Zelda would've sold like 10 million with the same install base.
Zelda is also the only game on the Switch, while PS4 has a lot of games.

>>380913567
The point isnt to outsell zelda, it was a situation where a lot of people who have to budget were spending money on the switch, so high sales for a new IP are even more impressive.

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>look for used PS4s
>nearly all of them come with HZD and little else

Any new IP that sells over a million is a success. Though honestly with all the press and advertising Horizen had you'd think they would break 5mil.

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>>380913212
>For every copy you sell, I will buy 3.

>>380913567
No it wouldn't. Even if the Wii U hadn't flopped and lived alongside the Switch Zelda still wouldn't have sold anymore or any less. Remember the Wii era and its install base of 100M? Guess how many people bought Skyward Sword? 3.95M. Granted that's no slouch number, but still.

>>380913818
Nah, zelda is also on the wii U which nintenbros forget 13million units were sold and yet no one bought it on the wii u.

>>380913212
Forgetting about direct comparisons with Zelda, I didn't really care for the game. Open world isn't really my thing. But I'm still glad it sold well.

I dare you to show some footage that isn't garbage. Game is irrelevant, lol bow physics, lol melee. Same people that would buy annual assassins creed.

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>>380914070
>look for used Switch
>nearly all of them come with BOTW and little else

>>380914201
go back to /pol/

>>380914258
>no one bought it on the wii u
>1 million sales on Wii U alone
I think it did good all things considered

>>380914598
Well obviously, it's the only game on the system.

>>380914725
>1million bought on the wii u
Not true

>>380913212
Yes it is a fucking great game and aloy is a cute. I masturbated to a fever dream when she is saved from the cliff fall and was in just plain clthes. I want to marry her. When she didnt want to sleep in a bed the night before her trial i knew she was my girl.

>>380913212
this is the game for people that dont have nintendo consoles and wanted to play something vaguely similar to botw. Ironically if it didn't launch against zelda absolutely no one would care about it

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>>380914706

>>380913212
Im a sonybro and im glad it did good but holy shit this game is boring as fuck. One of my biggest buyer remorse of 2017

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>dlc got a reveal at E3 for both zelda and HZD

I don't give a fuck what side you fall on this shit needs to stop

I want to play this game, but I fucking HATE the Nora. I don't want as anyone associated with them, it just kills my enthusiasm for it. All I want to do is join the antagonists and wipe them out, 1700's British Imperialist style.

Filthy fucking ignorant, arrogant savages.

>>380914258
That doesn't change anything, Zelda on Switch was competing with significantly fewer titles than Horizon was competing with on PS4.

>>380915010
I have read this fucking thing 10 times and i still don't get what is so fucking bad about it.

Is it because you hate refugees so much because of current events? Because refugees have always existed since the beginning of history.

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>>380915157
>muh edgy /pol/ contrarianism
>SMASH THE MATRIARCHY
>A-am I cool yet?

>>380914947
This is how youre wrong.

Horizon has an original story. Botw is le gannon magic fairy fag world.

Play your flute fuckboy maybe it will make your post true.

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>>380915306
>what is bad about that image

jesus christ try harder

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>>380913212
>Artist trying to make her look "good"

>>380915173
BoTW was shit nintendobro, ya game is already dead and no one is talking about it anymore?

>60 million PS4s
>Can't even sell 10%
wew

>>380915649
It is almost like there are a shit ton of games to play or something.

>>380915513
>no argument or point
can't say i am surprised.

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I remember it like it was yesterday.

>This game is gonna flop
>It's literal commercial suicide going up against Zelda
>It won't sell 500K copies
>Nobody will buy it

>mfw when I saw the threads during its first week and a half when it sold over 2M copies

I'll always treasure those threads alongside the future ones because this franchise ain't going anywhere anytime soon.

>>380915309
Go back to neogaf you pathetic weakling

>>380915306
They've been trying to push some sort of narrative that Horizon is overtly political.
It's not. It's got some left leaning tendencies, but it's extremely well handled. Horizon is the kind of game Bioware WISHES they could create.

For example, I met a gay character the other day, but it was handled with a lot of tact. He was mourning his dead lover and the whole homosex angle didn't come up aside from the male pronouns the grieving man used. That's proper storytelling. Bioware would have had him introduce himself as gay immediately and he would have complained about persecution and homophobia and probably even talked about some dumb forced shit about the man missing "the strength of his chest" or some other shit.

So much for your SJW game, got boycucked by an inferior sequel to Windwaker.

>>380915649
How much did Dark Souls 3 sell on steam with 150 million users?

>>380915638
I'm not a Nintenbro, I mean I own a Switch but I also have a PS4 and Xbox One. I'm saying Zelda sold as well as it did because it doesn't have to compete with anything, Horizon has to compete with a shitload of games and still sold well. If you own a Switch, you have no choice but to own Zelda, otherwise there's nothing to play on it.

Ugly cunt

>>380914237
Skyward Sword was also a shit game that released towards the end of the Wii's life cycle. BOTW has received muxh more hype/critical acclaim and is a launch title for the Switch.

>>380915939
S-Shut the fuck up!!

>>380914598
Well duh it literally just released. Meanwhile the PS4 has 4 years and no games. HZD and Gravity Rush are good though

>>380915638
Ya, true. Dronie Ponies don't even know.

>>380915649
OK so here's the future for ya dronie lil face here. BotW was such a flop it could barely outsell a new IP. Also note how nobody is talking about Bleat of the Goat anymore, meanwhile based Horizon is still getting buzz today. What does that say for the Shitty Shit Shitch here? Oh yeah! It's a flop and releasing it will tank the company of Nintendo altogether. Ya dig?

>>380915972
>otherwise there's nothing to play on it.
Then sell it! Waddaya waiting for? The critical flop that is ARMS? The Mario 3D World clone that took the open world pill? The Metroid Prime Federation Force 2 that will come out in 2184? What is it?!

>>380915817
Seeing Ninturdo go bankrupt after much dronie denial will be a much joyous day for all of us. And it doesn't look like we have to wait that long given how hard the Switch is blundering.

>>380916290
Excuse me? I don't have nintenbro?

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>>380914835
really makes me think

>>380916290
>Then sell it! Waddaya waiting for?
Mario Odyssey. I don't need the money, I'm already full idort.

>>380916290
You guys are pathetic.

>>380916430
>I'm already full """"""""""""""idort""""""""""""""""""
Yeah right ya drone

>>380915010
>prime minister
>woman with flaccid diminutive name like "Sally"
>from the "Second-Chance-Party-UK"
>totally
>really bad
>completely
>real-space
>literally stand in their remembrance and be aware

>opposition leader is a crude Nigel Farage (even called Nigel) cutout
>Fair-Chance-UK party
>Great Die-Off
>evil nasty nige, leader of the opposition, publicly calls for someone to go drown himself

this is absolutely dismal, who the fuck is responsible for this shite

>>380913567
The highest selling Zelda game sold like 7 million. There's no way BotW would be at 10 million by now. There were 100 million Wiis and SS sold less than 4 million.

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>>380916290
>OK so here's the future for ya dronie lil face here.
>ya
>dronie
>lil
>face
>Seeing Ninturdo go bankrupt after much dronie denial will be a much joyous day for all of us.
>Ninturdo
>consolewar-fagging this hard.
Do you talk at all like this in person? Do you vomit when you look in the mirror? How do you not hate yourself?

People talked about the gameplay of Zelda, all Horizon threads are either about sales or one waifufag autist reposting.

>>380913212
She did better then every new sony ip ever.

>>380917227
All the horizon threads I've seen just have constatant shitposting rather than people talking about the game.

>>380917227
You got that backwards Zeldafriendo :)

>>380915817
Ah ah, i remember it too my friend

>Critics will love it more than Zelda
>It will sell gangbusters more than Zelda
>IT SET A NEW STANDARD

Ah ah

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>>380917494
>mfw Horizon-kun outsold Bloodborne's lifetime sales in only two weeks.

>>380917639
Don't kid yourself now, we if you ever saw a post like that it's fishing for them (You)'s

But you can't take away from the fact that it did forever blow the fuck of out /v/ from now until the apocalypse.

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>>380913818
>PS4 has a lot of cinematic experiences

FTFY

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>>380913212
>>380913567

>>380918180
>>380918045
I loved the Shitendloser BTFOing this E3. Gods what a magical time. Feels so....cathartic to see this dying company be finally put to rest after the Switch blunder. The Wii U 2.

Time to give this cringe company one last kick where the sun don't shine before they finally kick the bucket.

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>>380918045
>>380918180
>>380918428

>>380918180
>>380918045
#Switchtanic
Such a beautiful yet depressing sight, seeing a once-legendary company fall this far. So long, drones!

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>>380913212
>MonHun clone that has arbitrary human vs human conflict instead of just hunting robot dinos
"No"

>>380913212
Nah. Her game is still boring as all fuck.
When's the next Nioh DLC?

>>380918045
>>380918045
>>380918180
Fun fact, actually made both of these for shit posting fun. I'm really proud of the online one as I based it off that one lazily done Sony graph that had about six posts on it. I thought I do a better one that address just about everything I saw from earlier this year up until now.

>>380918921
Not even remotely Monster hunter.
It's monster hunter if you didn't make anything out of the 1 scrap of iron you pulled off the robot and just sold it for a better weapon.

It's third person Far cry Primal with bi pedal tanks and cars that try to eat you.

>>380918921
This. My hype was immediately killed off.

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>>380913567
Zelda will outsell Horizon by like a 2:1 ratio before the gen is up.

Cap this post.

>>380913567
FPBP

>MUH SALES
Game sucks regardless.

>>380919397
>Not even remotely Monster hunter.
The combat feels pretty Monster Hunter-ish though.

>Locational damage is a massive focus
>Damaging specific body parts via locational damage changes the behavior and available abilities of a given enemy.
>Dodge roll focus for combat
>You have items that can be used to temporarily immobilize enemies

It's not a clone by any means, but the gameplay DOES feel a little inspired by it.

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>>380913212
>People comparing this to Zelda (even though it was unreleased) and now Monster Hunter even though it's so clearly based on The Witcher 3

>sonygroes celebrating about a game breaking 3 millions
l know bloodborne selling less than half as much copies as splatoon still stings but come on now

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>>380913212
Nah

>>380919868
>The combat feels pretty Monster Hunter-ish though.
No. No it really doesn't You have never touched a monster hunter game before have you?
>Locational damage is a massive focus
It is. depending entirely on what weapon you are using. In HZD it is just Shoot giant glowing weak point for massive damage. So no.
>Damaging specific body parts via locational damage changes the behavior and available abilities of a given enemy.
MH: Cut off tail. It is still going to make a tail sweep but mostly miss with the stub or break face and fire balls don't work to well anymore.
HZD: Break rockets. It won't use rockets anymore or even attempt to. Break explosive canisters, It's dead. Hurry games shit.
>Dodge roll focus for combat
MH: Blocking, Dodging for invincibility frames.
HZD: ROLLING AROUND AT THE SPEED OF A FART. Get hit all the time because it doesn't fucking work.
>You have items that can be used to temporarily immobilize enemies
MH: Various Traps, Flash bombs, Dung bombs, Sonic bombs, Just hitting the fucking thing.
HZD: Trip wire........yep.

Passing similarities a Monster hunter does not make. Take you mediocre Far cry somewhere else.

>>380920707
>In HZD it is just Shoot giant glowing weak point for massive damage
Not that anon but this is just wrong.

>>380920168
That was because Bloodborne was for actual gamers, whilst Splatoon was for the subhuman low-IQ fidget-spinning Ninturdling babytards who unironically use Vine on a regular basis.

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>>380918045
outdated image

>>380920798
I played the game up to after the Mother place got ransacked and every potential supporting cast died.

It really isn't that wrong.

>>380920707
>HZD: Break rockets. It won't use rockets anymore or even attempt to. Break explosive canisters, It's dead. Hurry games shit.
No you can take off the tail of a thunderjaw aswell but it will still attempt to use it.
Why blatantly lie?
>HZD: ROLLING AROUND AT THE SPEED OF A FART. Get hit all the time because it doesn't fucking work.
But there are invincibility frames in HZD aswell. you can still get hit by hitscans and aoe effects.
>HZD: Trip wire........yep.
There are tripwires and mines and they have different effects depending on what element you have.
What is your problem with horizon?

>>380920707
> No it really doesn't You have never touched a monster hunter game before have you?
Literal 100% completion of MH3U and MH4U.
>In HZD it is just Shoot giant glowing weak point for massive damage
No it's not.
> Get hit all the time because it doesn't fucking work.
Literally git gud.
> Blocking
Is an optional thing only a couple weapons have. MH is about dodgerolls.
>Trip wire........yep.
Several different kinds of tripwires in additional to binding cables that tie enemies down.

>>380920168
2.8 is not half of 4.6. I know Nintendo fans are children but finish elementary school before posting at least. Also nice goalposts moving by comparing core game sales to casual game sales.

>>380913212
They are rushing a DLC because they still haven't got back their money.

>>380914598
>used switch

>>380921074
My problem is that is was over hyped and it bored me to god damn tears. I can't understand why people want to talk about it in any fucking way when countless games released recently Over shadow it in every way.
Everything that it does has been done better on games that came before it. This game isn't shit.
Glad I only rented it.

>>380921112
>Literal 100% completion of MH3U and MH4U.
I guess that explains it.
>No it's not.
Yet you fail to say why. So it is.
>Literally git gud.
Literally play a better game.
>Is an optional thing only a couple weapons have. MH is about dodgerolls.
I see why you only played 3 and 4. fucking casual coward
>Several different kinds of tripwires in additional to binding cables that tie enemies down.
So trip wires. Yep.

>>380921445
It would seem people have different opinions from you.
You can't tell me that they didn't execute each aspect of the game properly. The polish was on point.
When you say other games has done something better can you elaborate as to what those games are and how they are relevant when discussing this game?

>has to sell 5million to break even
hehe

>>380913212
>>Launched against Zelda
What the fuck is up with you consolewar faggots?
They weren't competing in the slightest. I doubt Horizon convinced many if any people to abandon the Switch/Wii U and get a PS4 and I doubt BoTW did the same with the Wii U/Switch.

The game is great fun. I'm pretty close to beating it I believe, after putting it down for a couple weeks.

It's crazy how satisfying taking down the enemies is. Like, usually I want to run passed encounters and shit, just to get missions over faster, but if an enemy gets all up in my grill, I don't mind fighting it. The encounters are brief if you're good, and they're pretty rewarding gameplay wise.

I dunno what impact the DLC will have, since I didn't finish the main game yet; except now I can assume the story is open-ended?

>>380921776
What are you talking about? A game is generally successful after it breaches the 1M mark, unless you're going by what that analyst said about HZD doing Uncharted 4 numbers. I could honestly see this by the beginning of next year.

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>>380921648
>Hiding behind blocking and shields
>Casual

M'k. Whatever you say.

>>380922129
The spoiler-free understanding I have is that we learn a lot of things and some questions are answered, but the main plot conflict doesn't really get resolved.

Basically I think we learn about Aloy's role and why the world is the way it is, but we don't stop Hades or learn enough about him.

Nintendo is just a fucking embarrassment

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>>380921776
If it cost 150 million to make/market this would be true.
But it only cost approx 45 million (including marketing).
And remember since Sony is releasing this on their own platform they get the highest amount of money per copy sold possible for a publisher.
They made at least twice the investment back from Horizon Zero Dawn.

>>380913818

Fucking this. It's the one reason I never got a Wii - there was one game on it I wanted to play. One. I'm not buying a console for one fucking game.

>sonyfags this desperate after E3

fucking kek

i want to put my pee pee in aloy's vay vay

>>380918045
>1.1 million in Rapefugee Land
Can't say I'm suprised. Zelda outsold it in all regions that matter.

>>380915865
>left leaning tendencies, but it's extremely well handled.
>I met a gay character the other day
Fuck off shill

>Create new IP
>It's another ubisoft style open world game
wasted potential

>>380922602
Brand new IP sold just as well as a 30 year old franchise with brand recognition, on two systems.

Horizon still won regardless. Stood up against the champ and the naysayers who said it would be forgotten in less than a week. /v/ will NEVER recover from Horizon-kun sweetie.

>>380914598
that's still one more than a used PS4.

>>380915638
>BotW was shit

Did you even play It? Wait a minute, of course you didn't because you're too busy buying PSN cards to afford a decent PC or even a used Wii u.

>>380921651
Everything it had to show felt like they just ripped it from better games and glued it to theirs then painted over the seams.
Nothing about the game is it's own.
I will never look back on video game mechanics and go "The stealth was great in HZD."

This game has to have something about it to warrens so much hype and respect it is getting. But it doesn't. There literally nothing special about this game. Nothing that makes we want to continue playing it. Nothing that would make me remember it in any other light other than Mediocre. It baffles me that anyone can look at this game and say anything other than "I guess it looks nice". The character are terrible and the main character is voiced by one of the worst VA
In the business.
The game brings nothing to the industry but your every day pointless triple A fluff.
>>380922169
>running around like a pussy vs standing your ground.
Hmmm.

>>380922961
Zelda will continue to sell, and at $59.99. Horizon is already $39.99 and the price will continue to drop, and sales continue to slow. It's over. Horizon will be forgotten in a generation, Zelda will be remembered forever.

>>380918045
Let's do some math here
1.47+0.64=2.11
BotW total on March 11th: 2,110,000
HZD total on March 11th: 2,200,000
BotW average sold from release to march 11th each day:
2,110,000/8=263,750
HZD average sold from release to march 11th each day:
2,200,000/11=200,000
Latest sales (May 6th according to VGCharts) each:
BotW: 2.66+0.99=3.65m
HZD: 2.81m (3.4m today according to OP)
>Breath of The Wild over a month ago is outselling Horizon: Zero Sales today with less time being out and one a new system
Get cucked Sony Shills

>>380923164
He wins

>>380923164
Not on /v/ it won't. You can barely keep a BoTW thread alive.

>>380922961
It would have.
If faggots like you didn't make this exact fucking thread every god damn week.

This is why Bioshock Infinite and it's mediocre ass didn't stay forgotten. Because there is one trolling cunt popping out of the woodwork saying shit like "This game really makes you thing" and shit.

While this games comeback threads are always "It sold more than Zelda, Guy's. It has to be good."

>>380922271
You stop HADES at the end but it's implied he was "revived" and interrogated by Sylens.

>>380922602
Zelda is actually outselling it world wide still. Those stats were from earlier dates. The updated dates show that BotW on the WiiU and Switch are outselling HZD by a large margin.

>>380913212
Post her barefoot OUTFIT!

>>380923259
You won't get any (You)s because you BTFO Horizon/Sony shills through logic and demonstration.

>>380913212

Given the odds ya HZD did very well for a new IP. PS4 owners should be happy the same way that Wii U owners should be happy with Splatoon.

Two great new IPs within the span of a year is always good news for everyone.

I can't wait to take Aloy up to Jellystone Park and Devil's Peak so I can summon some aliens to murder with arrows.

>>380922961
Sold on the most popular console of the generation vs. the worst system in Nintendo's history except maybe the fucking Virtual Boy and a brand new console that doesn't even have a quarter the install base.

HZD should've sold much more than it did.

>>380923149
>Nothing about the game is it's own.
This. Horizon just felt very souless, at least to me. It rips off a bunch of shit from other games (terrible foliage/cover stealth, Tomb Raider bow mechanics, etc.) yet doesn't really improve upon them in any way.

>>380913212
Who?

>>380917510
It's hard to compare experiences or enjoyment when it has no unique experiences and isn't fun. I wouldn't be shocked to hear most of those 3 million bought it to kill time before zelda came out.

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I think we can all agree that salesfags are the worst regardless of what vidya is being discussed.

If you wanna talk numbers and debate sales data go to /biz/.

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>>380913212
lol

>>380913212
What's new about this IP though? All I ever hear is it being compared to other games for either borrowing gameplay, or other games doing it better.

>>380923149
>felt
Can you stop being so subjective?
Your opinions have no value when they are based on arbitrary feelings. You don't like Horizon we get it.
> they just ripped it from better games and glued it to theirs then painted over the seams.
Can you please elaborate on what games you are talking about and why they are relevant to Horizon?
>Nothing about the game is it's own.
You can say that about pretty much anything in any game.
>I will never look back on video game mechanics and go "The stealth was great in HZD."
No but you may say the combat against robots was great.
>This game has to have something about it to warrens so much hype and respect it is getting. But it doesn't.
In your opinion maybe. The rest of us really enjoy the world and in general the game design + enemies.
>There literally nothing special about this game
>Nothing that makes we want to continue playing it
> Nothing that would make me remember it in any other light other than Mediocre.
I can say that about any and all games you have ever liked.
>It baffles me that anyone can look at this game and say anything other than "I guess it looks nice".
How much of the game did you play?
>The character are terrible and the main character is voiced by one of the worst VA
Objectively you are wrong here.
>The game brings nothing to the industry but your every day pointless triple A fluff.
You can't name any other game with these elements present that also has the polish and production value of Horizon.
It pushes the industry on several technical fronts aswell so i don't understand what you mean by that.

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>>380913212

Well

Think of it like this.

>Sold around 3.4 million copies on a system with 55m + owners

>Compared to Zelda, which sold around 2m on a system with like 4m owners.
>We can also extend this to Splatoon, which was also a new ip, selling 2.5-3.5 million copies on a system with only 13+ Million owners

It's pretty cool for a new IP, but it's not all that impressive.

>>380924349
The main difference is that those platforms didn't have any other games than those first party games.

PS4 has fucking all games.

>>380924170

Well if you're looking for something to be literally fresh and never done you might as well give up on any form of media at this point.

If you're looking for a game with simple yet engaging combat, a vibrant living world, and a good 40-60hrs worth of base content without being a completionist than it's worth paying $60 for.

There are not games that do anything new or original anymore. The concepts have all been done and now all we can hope for is companies to mash and twist them in new and different scenarios that will at least stimulate.

Everyone borrows. It's how new media is made.

It's just the breaks. The average person buys a ps4 to play fifa, uncharted or call of duty.

They just don't care about this kind of game and never will

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>>380916290
>typical pokebarneyfag post
Like clockwork.

>>380913567
I don't think so, BotW being the only game on the Switch was the main reason for such high sales.

>>380924719
If you're not demanding your entertainment you pay for improve or be worth it, you should just buy fucking everything. I've heard nothing but negatives about the games combat being unsatisfying, the world feeling empty but looking good, and many many many games doing what it's doing before and better. You can't pitch me a game based on it being average or below average.

>>380915173
>Competing with fewer games
>Forgetting that people have a fucking $300 hurdle to jump over for them to buy it.

I find it weird that people saying it's the Switch's only game is the only reason it sold well, when it's actually a credit to the game's popularity that people were willing to buy a Switch for it.

>>380915115
I think Horizon's DLC will be like Lost Legacy, an expansion pack that can be purchased on its own
But Zelda's is fucking disgusting
>Season pass bullshit
>A "hard mode" that just makes health regenerate for enemies
>Amiibo bullshit

>>380925098

>some guy apparently makes a simple image shows a few logos
>someone out 'tisms him by creating this image

/v/ is like the CERN of 'tism and one day you guys are going to create so much concentrated 'tism it'll form a 'tism black hole and we'll all be wiped out in the blink of an eye.

>>380914706
Go back to neogaf.

>>380914598
>holding a 3 month old system's library to the same standard as a 4 year old system's library

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>>380915817
>PUTTING IT NEXT TO ZELDA WILL KILL IT
>THE NEXT BATTLEBORN
>BLUNDER OF DA YEAR
>Best new IP launch for Sony
>Over 2.5M copies sold in two weeks
>Being barely outsold by a Zelda game on two consoles

>>380925471
4 years later and still not a single good game.

>>380924332
>Can you please elaborate on what games you are talking about and why they are relevant to Horizon?
Bow gameplay - Tomb Raider. But less indepth. Making so pulling back the bow all the way was just a completely arbitrary damage increase. like 100% damage to 102% damage.
Climbing - Uncharted. can only Climb designated areas. can't do anything on them other than climb.
Dodging - nearly every third person game
Setting, minus the robots, - Far Cry Primal.
Hunting - Also Far cry. also empty comparatively
The game has so many systems it would take all night to link them all the other better games it lifts them from.
>You can say that about pretty much anything in any game.
You can. But most games try to put spins on mechanics or make them work better or something with their mechanics. HZD only takes from multiple games and just uses the bare basics of those mechanics.
>No but you may say the combat against robots was great.
No. No I wouldn't. I would say that about Binary Domain and Vanquish though.
>In your opinion maybe
If I'm not allow to speak for others than so are you.
>I can say that about any and all games you have ever liked.
Highly doubt that. You sound like you are trying to be a drone.
>How much of the game did you play?
I beat that one robot that gives you the Hacking thing you Tie to your spear. Used it a few times and just couldn't give less of a fuck about playing the game ever again.
>Objectively you are wrong here.
Subjectively, Get it right. also Ashley Burch is a terrible actor.
>You can't name any other game with these elements
But I did. Your game you seemingly love so much is just a mediocre amalgamation of bare-bones game mechanics stripped from far better games. You also can't tell me what makes these mechanics so unique.

>>380918921
>they first advertised it at the reveal with a woman scouting out and roping down a dinosaur
>the game turns into aztecs wearing scraps of metal because muslims tried to do science
What a fucking shame.

>>380925215

I feel bad you're trapped in the cycle of giving a shit about the opinions of others when it comes to your media.

You're hopeless until you break your own shackles and free yourself from that pointless burden.

Until then you have but an ounce of my pity you weak minded fool.

>>380925383
I wouldn't if i could. Those faggots banned me for saying Anita didn't like video games and providing proof of Anita saying it aswell.

>>380925098
Wooo thats almost SEXGENIE levels of sad.

Somebody post thedude getting exposed.

>>380925754
It's like you know the truth but refuse to accept it. Why?

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I wanted to like the game, but the open world felt to dull. The story was surprisingly engaging with a lot of drama being built up quickly surprisingly well.

>>380913212
>Brand new IP
>Launched against Blizzard
>Has 3.5M players
>Already released multiple DLCs
nah step it up

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>>380913212
I feel likes this franchise will suffer the same fate Dishonored and Watch Dogs suffered:

First game is a major critical and commercial success, however, the main reason for this will not be the quality of the actual game, but the false hype train created by the publisher and the expectation that is always around a new IP launch.

People will play the game and realize its not that great and forget about it in a couple of months, the publisher will not notice this and greenlite a sequel mostly because of the good sales.

The sequel comes out and its a major flop, because people already don't give a shit about the franchise, thanks to the underwhelming first instalment.

>>380925602
I'm sorry I don't blindly buy every fucking game in existence like some brand following sheep

There are like 5 exclusives that are better than that ubisoft game. So no.

>>380913212
Yeah, she did good.
She is probably gonna get a very good holiday season too, I'll probably get her game when the dlc gets out.
The amount of competition she had this year is insane, we are not even done with the first half of it and this is already one of the best years of this decade for gaming.

>>380925952
So nintendo didn't get their money somehow?

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>>380925756
>I only have the part where he is shown but not exposed.

Fuck somebody have the rest ?

>>380913212
I'm not gonna believe any of the success articles about a company's exclusive game that also made Ghostbusters 2016

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>>380926183
No but acting like sales are impressive because a few retards bought a shitload of copies is like acting like the number of units shipped is anything to give a fuck about

>>380925997

shhhh. There is no need to blindly lash out. Think for yourself and remember to not take to heart the opinions of other people. You've got the right idea but you're misdirecting your anger in unneeded ways.

Don't blindly buy every game true but form your own opinion on what you like and don't be afraid to try. Wait for sales to buy games that pique your interest or buy them used if needed. The games aren't going anywhere but your money is so use it wisely.

>>380926008
I agree. Uncharted 4, Bloodborne, and.. ummm.... uhhhhhhh what else....?

>>380926386
But they're still selling? Just because scalpers redistribute them doesn't mean they didn't sell.

>>380926504
Typically sales are used to indicate popularity. If they are artificially inflated it takes away from the legitimacy. It'd be like if a singer bought every ticket to his own show and said "look at my concert, it sold like crazy!"

>>380926746
But if they're still selling out in stores and online, that means the scalpers are still selling them, meaning it's popularity is so big, people are willing to pay more than what it's worth to get it.

>>380926898
There's no evidence that scalpers have sold all of them, and I see Zelda at gamestop every time I walk by.

>>380926967
I'd say it being sold out everywhere is beyond strong evidence of that, and the game being physical doesn't matter in this day and age when digital exists unless it's a collectors edition (good luck finding that also btw)

>>380927150
collectors editions sell out all the time its not very impressive.

>>380915010
Wait.

Hold the fuck up. Climate change caused massive amounts of flooding, and the refugees went to the UK.

AN ISLAND

THAT WILL SHRINK WITH RISING TIDES

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>>380913212
Webm thread?
Webm thread.

>>380925592
>The game has so many systems it would take all night to link them all
You have yet to explain how these games are at all relevant to Horizon,
The main part of horizon is the combat with the robots.
Besides many of the games you listed with the mechanics did nothing special with that mechanic anyway so why is it relevant?
What did the game do in a special way that Horizon copied?
Not only this but you said it yourself. There are so many systems it would take all night, isn't that proof that the developers actually took the effort of implementing all of these systems and mechanics in a way no other game could?
>But most games try to put spins on mechanics
Care to give an example that shows how it differs from horizon?
>HZD only takes from multiple games and just uses the bare basics of those mechanics.
Bare basics you say. But why would they want to make it more complicated than it needs to? Isn't this a balancing act? You could say the "weak point" mechanics in horizon is way more advanced than in most games.
>I would say that about Binary Domain and Vanquish though.
Yeah but those games aren't exactly games about primitive hunting tools and open world RPG in general. Almost as if people like the fact that it combines these elements, but well see.
>If I'm not allow to speak for others than so are you.
You are saying that it has nothing that warrants hype and then you exert that claim as a universal truth when it isn't. The truth of the matter is that people really like the game.
>Highly doubt that. You sound like you are trying to be a drone.
A drone? What do you mean? I am merely using your own argument against you.
>I beat that one robot that gives you the Hacking thing you Tie to your spear.
You really shouldn't talk about the game then. You haven't even experienced a third of the robots in the game.
>Subjectively, Get it right. also Ashley Burch is a terrible actor.
How so?
>But I did
You named several games not one.

>>380925592
2/2
>Your game you seemingly love so much is just a mediocre amalgamation of bare-bones game mechanics stripped from far better games.
>Far better games
You can say this about all games ever made.
>You also can't tell me what makes these mechanics so unique.
I never said they were unique. The combination makes them unique. The fact that they are all present in the same sandbox is what makes them unique. There is synergy between these mechanics, and you won't find this in other games. And in this game everything is polished and put together with high production value.

>>380925876
What truth?
It is the truth that she doesn't like video games.

Why does Aloy look okay in artwork but she looks like an ogre in game?

So do these sales include PS4+HZD packs, or are those counted separately?

>>380926183
They didn't because there is a portion of the "install base" who doesn't buy more games.

>>380913212
She did great.

And this new so called 'chunky' DLC is going to be awesome. More weapons? You already got me.

>>380927652
>You have yet to explain how these games are at all relevant to Horizon,
Except I did and you are purposely ignoring it faggot. They are all games that HZD lifted it's mechanics from and not only didn't capitalize on but somehow made them less interesting.
>The main part of horizon is the combat with the robots
Third person combat isn't. Fighting giant enemies isn't new, Fighting robots isn't new. And somehow they managed to make all that together not interesting.
>What did the game do in a special way that Horizon copied?
that is the thing. They lifted, they didn't copy. They made bare bones versions of other game mechanics. They didn't go all the way and just grabbed the basics. Which is why it is fucking boring.
>Not only this but you said it yourself. There are so many systems it would take all night,
Except you haven't said one while i listed several.
>Care to give an example that shows how it differs from horizon?
Climbing in uncharted. You can fight from the climbing position and use the climbing as cover. HZD is just climbing. That's one more indepth.
>But why would they want to make it more complicated than it needs to?
To set the game apart from everything else. to keep it from going into obscurity like it is currently going though, every thread about this game is just poking at sells numbers or showing the same doctored footage for the start of a Webm thread.
>but those games aren't exactly games about primitive hunting tools and open world RPG in general
your right. But all you said was fighting robots. And those two games did league better. Don't move the goal posts now.
>I am merely using your own argument against you.
Except it isn't working and you haven't actually described why your game is any good. you just ask why other games did what it does better before it.
>You haven't even experienced a third of the robots in the game.
If the gameplay is the exact same but with different robots. I wouldn't want to play it.

>>380926503
Ratchet and Clank, Resogun, and WipEout.

>>380927652
>How so?
On subjectivity? Because what you and I say isn't law. On Burch? Shetalkslikethisalotinthegame. If I want toed play a game where the main character took speed to talk then I would have played suikoden tierkreis instead.
>You named several games not one.
So I'm right on multiple instances. Ok then.
>>380927867
>You can say this about all games ever made.
Except not. Because all other games tend to try something new with these bare-bone mechanics. they spin them into something that will be remembered for their own. Horizon hasn't done that on anything they have in their game.
>The combination makes them unique.
But that isn't unique either. Horizon is 80% Far Cry Primal in mechanics. Open world with tribal bullshit. Crafting mid combat for ammo. Primary bow combat. Hunting large enemies, Hunting humans, hunting animals to make your ammo bags and clothing better.
Most of this shit is just FC:P Slapping a coat of robot paint on it didn't make it unique in any way.

Horizon has no identity. Nobody will remember it for it's mechanics or characters.

>>380926503
I'll never get tired of this. When will Sony finally put games on there consoles? Why do people buy low end PC's for?

>>380929172
>you are purposely ignoring it faggot
No i am fucking not. You haven't explained what they did specially that horizon copied.
>HZD lifted it's mechanics from and not only didn't capitalize on but somehow made them less interesting.
You can't say that HZD lifted the mechanics from those games and then also say that horizon didn't do them as interestingly.
Either HZD copied the mechanics or they didn't. You can't have it both ways.
>And somehow they managed to make all that together not interesting.
You wouldn't know because you didn't play the game.
> They made bare bones versions of other game mechanics.
So in other words you just came up with the word "lifted". What does that mean?
>They didn't go all the way and just grabbed the basics. Which is why it is fucking boring.
But this is literally only your opinion.
>Except you haven't said one while i listed several.
What is your point?
>HZD is just climbing. That's one more indepth.
You can do attacks while climbing in HZD but you most definetly didn't get that skill yet because you barely played the game.
Besides it is almost impossible to shoot a bow while hanging off of something. It wouldn't fit with HZD.
>To set the game apart from everything else
But it does standout from everything else. Else we wouldn't be discussing it right now.
You just can't fathom the reality that it is unique because of the combination of all the systems within.
> And those two games did league better. Don't move the goal posts now.
That is subjective and not comparable because the games are so different. Are you going to say HZD lifted the combat from those games aswell? You changed the goalpost by saying binary domain and vanquish.
1/2

>>380930302
>Except it isn't working
Thats because you are dense.
>you haven't actually described why your game is any good.
Because of the enemies and the world. go back in the thread to see.
>you just ask why other games did what it does better before it.
Because you haven't given a clear answer why HZD is so much worse than those you just give vague descriptions about taking the basics of some mechanics from several games.and then that inherently makes HZD "forgettable" and "bad". You didn't even experience the games mechanics to their potential. ie. fighitng the biggest robots etc.
>If the gameplay is the exact same but with different robots. I wouldn't want to play it.
Every robot needs to be approached differently.
Hold on did you play on the easiest difficulty?

2/2

>>380930302
>>380930386
Nah. Nah. I'm done.
You don't read.
You didn't answer shit and expect answers in return.
You can fuck right off with your game.
Go make another "webm" thread starting with nothing but doctored HZD footage and "Brand new IP" Thread in another hour. Your game is trash. You know it is and these pointless circular conversations about nothing the game is about or does is all you will ever have.

>>380930386
I just finished a part in HZD were I was like fuck... this game doesnt hand hold. Ofc i am playing on hardest diff. But fuuu

>>380929757
>Shetalkslikethisalotinthegame
I haven't noticed this.
>So I'm right on multiple instances. Ok then.
No because you can't say 1 game isn't unique because it has elements also found in 20 games. That alone would make the game unique and not generic.
> Horizon hasn't done that on anything they have in their game.
How the fuck would you know?
You are wrong btw.
>Horizon is 80% Far Cry Primal in mechanics.
90% of Horizon is combat and the combat in Far Cry Primal and HZD is very different from one another.
Also Far Cry is first person and HZD is third person. A big difference here is the area of effect attacks and the armor on the enemies. Not to mention the weak points and the elemental effects. You wouldn't know anything about this btw.
>Nobody will remember it for it's mechanics or characters.
You are wrong. The game is already being remembered for its combat so you are just wrong.

>>380930739
You can fuck right out of this thread then. You obviously just gave up on the game 2-3 hours in when the game is 40+ hours long.

>>380925471
>Holding a 10 year old peice of tech to a 4 year old peice of game tech.

Ps botw took 6 to 7 years to make and is beatanle in 40 minutes.

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This little Horizon/BoTW episode really showed me how vicious Ninteniggers are.

Before I used to just thought of them as autistic men children who did their own thing, and brushed off the rumors of all the crazies, but this spring really opened my eyes at how obsessed and hysterical Ninteniggers are

>>380931703
Care to give me examples of this?

>>380930918
>No because you can't say 1 game isn't unique because it has elements also found in 20 games. That alone would make the game unique and not generic.
Not him, but well what does it do with those that is so unique tho?

Also, I think HZD is more comparable with the TR reboot than with FC., from what I've seen. I have not played it so I can't make a direct comparison.

>>380931703
When the OP is literal bait and your game is practically only talked about to compare it to Zelda, its not surprising brand worshippers come out of the woodwork. On either side.

>>380931845
If a game has 20 different elements you can find in 20 different games then it is unique because it is the only game that has all of these elements gathered in one game.
It can be bad or good but id say in HZD the elements work together synergisticly.

>>380913212
Why aren't people screaming about cut content with a dlc this soon?

>>380931845
Maybe gameplay wise. I played def. Edition tr and finished it. Hzd is way more open world and had a far better story. Tomb raider reboot wad good but inpolished...like crafting aeemed ham handed and save camps etc.

>>380932123
I asked what it does with those that is unique. Not if the amount of mechanics it carries over is large. By this point, Uncharted has copied the original TR before being copied by the reboot and has gone back to copy it in turn. That does not make the games bad, nor does it make them unique.

What it does make them is derivative from one another. Which is not a bad thing in and of itself, but not unique.

So how do those work synergistically? Again, I haven't played it, so I can only go by what I saw.

>>380932325
Gameplay is the meat of the game. Whether the story is good or bad is not precisely relevant to the present discussion.

>>380932293
fuck off nintenbro

>>380932293
What are you talking about? This isn't the Zelda case where they literally announced fucking DLC before the game was even released. Sony got real fucking lucky with this one. I'm surprised how fast Guerrilla is making this though.

>>380932467
I take it your main question is:
>So how do those work synergistically?
And to that i can say these elements brings the game world to life in a sense.
The fact that there is a stealth mechanic gives context for why the enemy doesn't just always know where you are.
The fact that there is different types of elemental damage gives context for why you would hit some weak spots with certain weapons and weapons types which helps the game get further diversity of combat scenarios.
The different weapons are designed differently so that the payload of damage just happens differently depending on the weapons. This also manifests because all the different damage types are spread out over these weapons types so if you want to optimize your ability to take down an enemy you would also have to switch your gameplay up drastically.
Another thing is the fact that everything is tied to the same RPG systems and mechanics so everything is cohesive to the whole game.
Hunting critters is also different from hunting other things but the payoff is different because it gives you mats unique to those etc.
There are so many mechancis i can't list every way that they synergise but just know that the synsergy manifests in a way that gets you the player to experience the game from the most different angles possible without forcing you to do it through level design or something like that.
You can come up with your own playstyle and use it instead.

>>380933453
>The different weapons are designed differently so that the payload of damage just happens differently depending on the weapons.
How so?

Beyond that, what you describe is pretty much literally ROTTR with greater weapons variety. So I'm not saying its bad, just that I don't see anything unique. Derivative, yes. It may even improve for all I know. But not unique.

>>380933982
>greater weapons variety
Bow, Trip mine thrower. Sling shot, spear.
Is that more weapons than ROTTR?

And don't fucking say a bow using different set of Arrows is a different fucking weapon.

>>380934160
Well in ROTTR you have a handgun, a rifle, a shotgun. So guns. That's not very variable. And the bow, obviously.

You might count the climbing axe like a weapons since it is the dedicated melee weapon, but its all about QTEs. And a knife for stealth melee takedowns, so again not really a weapon.

>>380933982
rattler, tripcaster, sling shot, spear, bow, grenade launcher, heavy machine gun, some more weapons i don't remember the name of but you get the idea.

>>380934763
Then remove the spear since it is also melee.
So RoTTR has various guns while HZD has 3 weapons.

>>380931823
If you don't know at this point, than you're just a fucking newfag.

>>380935173
That looks on par. But really, guns. A short range gun with stealth capability, a short range gun with high damage and a longer range gun. I don't really remember right now if there's a scope on the assault rifle or not.

Looks to me like HZD has it beat in terms of variety. Since most enemies are just shoot the head 1-2-times or bait for a melee kill QTE.

Admittedly, in HZD you first shoot glowing points before shooting other glowing points as far as I can see. So that's a difference in the combat.

>>380935776
>no argument
k

>>380935951
Look a few months back, faggot.

>>380936835
k

3.4 million is not good enough for a AAA game. Guerrilla is extremely lucky that Sony doesn't really care about making money from their games as long as they don't lose too much.

>>380914835
Moron.

>>380913212
>>380913579
Fuck off shills.

my main problem with this game is why did they make the protagonist so ugly? I mean fuck, there are other people in this VIDEOGAME who look decent. This bitch just look fat faced

>>380913212
it proved that as long you have pretty visuals, gameplay doesn't matter to get a good sales