>Currently, only 21% of the 23,000 reviews in the past 30

>>380909289
because no one care about fallout 4 lmao

If Rockstar cared about petitions, RDR would be on PC.

No one who cares about these kinds of things actually owns Fo4 to begin with

>>380909289
GTA has an actual community, at least modding wise.

>>380909631
Doesn't Elder Scrolls have the biggest modding community in the world?

Because we have OpenMW. Once that's fully released nothing else will matter. Let the normeis have TES.

>>380909289
And neither rockstar nor take two will care about a few angry nerds since GTAV and their next games will still sell millions to normies.

>>380909289
>Elder Scrolls fans

Because 90% of these fans are vapid normalfags who don't give a shit and the real fans gave up a long time ago.

>>380909289

Because they did it last time, and what did Bethesda do?

>they're not paid mods, they're mods you pay for

>>380909676
Empty Nexus accounts don't count. Not to mention the TES community took a massive plummet in size when some of the biggest names tried kissing ass to the paid mods idea, fragmenting the community and driving many modders away. It's a fucking shell of its former self, occupied only by horny Sexlab modders and ENB whores.

>>380909782
Not if 80% of people on Steam leave a negative review. This affects not only normies' decision to buy it, but Steam's metrics which will shove the game out of everyone's front page.

>>380909289
>Why can't Elder Scrolls fans stand up to Bethesda like GTA fans are doing?

You worded that wrong. It's not GTA fans and Bethesda fans. It's GTA modders, and Bethesda modders. Big difference. Also, a very good question.

By the way, GTA Online sucks and I get why anyone has anything to do with it.

sale coming soon
I wonder if GTAV will still be a top seller.

>>380909945
don't get*

>>380909837
The comparison is being made with motherfucking GTA of all things. That's like dissing Forza for having too many wheels over Gran Turismo.

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>Currently, only 21% of the 23,000 reviews in the past 30 days are listed as positive
actually...

>>380909289
GTA killed a modding community
Bethesda made paid DLC and called it mods. the only thing you might have to pay for is content package which would be pretty nice if a big developer made DLC sized mods that were not shit

>>380909923
Or just prevent Rockstar/Take Two from porting their games to PC. Nobody who plays them on console will give a shit.

Why hasn't Bethy made more expansions for Special Edition? Then they can milk it for a Super Special Legendary Special Edition.

>>380909289
Eew game "journalists" need to stop trying to be funny. That joke at the end was cringe worthy.

>>380909424
It will be. Soon. I give it 2 more years, at most.

>>380909289
people are undecided on what bethesda is doing
there are some good arguments for it
people are mad cause something perceived of as being un-monetizable is now being charged for though

I'm even kinda undecided about it, my compassionate side says "hard working modders should be able to make some money off of it", but my selfish side says "I didn't have to pay for this before, games and dlc already cost so much, I really don't want to have to start paying for this shit too " and peoples response to that is then just don't buy it but this is shit I could just download for free in the past so it feels like I'm having stuff taken away from me still.

>>380909289
>False reviews slandering the dev that have nothing to do with the game
>Worth giving a shit about
Pointless bullshit right there. Game is still fun, cant even mod online and thats what 95% of its player base plays.

>>380909945
Actually, fans is correct. Fans of mods are the ones leaving negative reviews, not just modders.

>>380910401
>Or just prevent Rockstar/Take Two from porting their games to PC
Which will lose them money, so they won't do.

>>380910279
This.
Bethesda was stupid to ever use the word mods or plant the idea in their marketing.
People don't care what the actual program is they just want to get mad.

>>380909901
The fact that Skyrim is old as fuck and that the Fallout 4 creation kit took months to release didn't help either.

>>380909289
Keep crying modfags make your own games.

>>380910535
Paid mods would break so much. Anyone who only sees the immediate consequences at face value is a fucking moron who doesn't have enough experience being part of the modding community. There's a whole chain of effects that would happen because of paid mods, and it would ultimately destroy the modding community.

>>380910627
It's not going to make them lose money, it's just money they wouldn't be making. Absolutely no harm in cutting off the "problematic" userbase when their console sales obliterate anything their PC port sales would do.

>>380910029
GTA players on PC are patricians

>>380909289
>neg reviews of a game about modding it

KEK I hope most of them get banned or have their reviews deleted.

>>380910693
Bethesda should fuck off to a community that doesn't have an established thriving modding community, like go charge for paid mods in Dishonored, or Wolfenstein or some shit.

I honestly want Bethesda to go through with it. Because if it crashes and burns on them they'll learn. Them getting bitched out teaches them nothing and they'll just try it again another time.

game's still #16 on the steam top sellers list despite this

>>380910627

Only 8% of Skyrim's players are on PC. I imagine the stats are similar for GTA.

>>380910751
That's another thing I was thinking about, seems really shitty to basically kill this passionate modding community so that we can get what is basically low quality controlled crappy DLC content.

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>>380910783
Just how young and naive are you? Do you know the kind of shit large corporations do to gain even 0.5% more profit?

>>380910740
This is the stupidest post I ve read today

>>380910916
Like they did with Red Dead? OH WAIT.

>>380910751
2 things
1) this isn't really "paid mods"
2) no it wouldn't, if the good modders can make money they aren't going to fuck off cause neckbeards on the internet hate the idea. People always oppose other people making money. But nobody is against making money themselves. A paycheck speaks loader than 100,000 angry shitposters.

>>380910401
>companies will lose sizable amounts of profit just out of spite

Why do dipshits like you even pretend like you have a clue? The self-esteem movement really pumped you fucks full of false confidence, didn't it.

>>380910783
>Big corporations spend fucking millions on completely inconsequential shit like what fonts to use, how to word things, or what tiny changes to make in logos to gain 0.1% more profit
>lel they're just going to drop 10% of their profits cause "problematic" XD

>>380910834
>Banning users for neg reviews
>Deleting neg reviews
That would just be a whole nother can of worms dude.

>>380909732
>Zenimax sends C&D to OpenMW

>>380911072
>>380911078
See>>380910983

lol playing gta 5 in 2017. are you an easily impressed 12 year old. I mean it looks nice, but..

>>380910841
But that's not what this is. It's essentially outsourcing dlc and microtransactions to third parties, they hope to tap from the modding community. It's not at all the same as last time. Hence why i said it's a marketing blunder 99% of shitposters can't grasp what it is. They just heard paid, and then mods and threw a tantrum.

>>380911062
When he says the community will die, he doesn't mean there will be 0 people making mods. He means it will be like playing an old, dead MMO. There will still be dedicated people, but who fucking cares when traffic is down to 1% of what it was years ago? The entire game will change as we know it.

>>380910983
They have never put RDR on PC, so there's no evidence it would make money yet. GTA has proven to make them a lot of money on PC. Please grow the fuck up, man. Come back with a real point of argument.

>>380909289
because bethesda isn't taking modding away. They are adding a new avenue of mods. They are literally adding more mods to the community.

The exact opposite of what gta did

>>380910983
there's a huge difference between not taking a risk vs removing a product you already factually know makes you money.

>>380911185
It's been online for a long long time. That'd do nothing.

>>380911232
What are you smoking?
If you can make money doing it more people will, plain and simple.
The """community""" aspect might suffer and shitmodders will throw a tantrum and leave. I don't understand why you think 99% of modders would stop.

>>380909923
They'll remove reviews and ratings just like Netflix did.

>>380911210
Yeah indie game you play bro

>>380911285
>>380911330
>so there's no evidence it would make money yet.
>not taking a risk
The petitions after petitions to bring RDR to PC would say otherwise.

>>380909289
openiv did not get C&D'd
the devs live in russia where they literally give no fucks about our copyright law
the main dev came up with the lame excuse because they no longer wanted to work on the project.

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>>380911313
I hope you enjoy buying those swords and armors for $1 apiece
>B-But you can ignore those shitty mods and just buy GOOD mods

Right, I'm going to change the way I've always enjoyed TES with fully modded 200+ mod installs of anything and everything I like and only use 20 big mods for only $19.99 (Skyrim Legendary Edition) + $70.00 ($3~$5 per big mod)

>>380911482
That's not what evidence means. Please stop posting.

>>380911605
b-but you don't have to buy any mods at all and keep using the same mods you've always been using

>>380911482
>No Judge, I swear, all my friends say I'm a really nice guy, so it has to be true. You don't need solid evidence

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>>380909289
yet the game reached a peak of concurrent players during the latest update higher than any other time since the initial release
petitions will never be meaningful, and the negative reviews will soon thin out

really, this means nothing
the online is as alive as ever, Rockstar and TakeTwo are still making mad dosh out of sharkcards, and they'll continue to release sporadic updates with timed content that is continuously more and more expensive, and people will continue to buy into it

>>380911482
A signature =\= a sale. And mods are something done by third parties for free, porting is not. Even if minuscule there is a possibility of losing money on a port. I doubt it, but it takes money amd effort to port. It takes money and effort to C&D not the other way around.

>>380911695
What mods is he going to use when TES VI comes out?

>>380911645
>>380911696
>Hundreds of thousands of people wanting to buy a game
>not evidence for it will make money
Face it, the only reason GTA V came to PC was they were updating it for current gen hardware so they threw PC gamers a bone.

>>380910983
>Like they did with Red Dead?

there are a limited number of resources available. Take Volition, for example. The guys that do Saints Row. Right now, they are working on Agents of Mayhem and their fanbase is pissed as fuck about it because it's garbage. But Volition can't work on Saints Row 5 at the same time, because they don't have enough people.

The reason RDR never got ported to PC was because all of their 1st party people were busy, and their 3rd party teams were busy porting The Lost and Damned, Chinatown Wars, and The Ballad of Gay Tony.

It wasn't that they didn't want to. They simply didn't have the manpower under their umbrella.

>>380911782
whatever the modding community shits out, like he always does

>>380911695
This but unironically.
Horse armour and the likes have existed for a long time. All that has changed is they learned they can outsource that shit.

>>380911592
You're fucking retarded.


"Take-Two's actions were not specifically targeting single player mods. Unfortunately OpenIV enables recent malicious mods that allow harassment of players and interfere with the GTA Online experience for everybody. We are working to figure out how we can continue to support the creative community without negatively impacting our players."

>>380909923

every normie already bought GTAV though

most of them bought it twice

>>380911605
kek, Skyrim + DLC has gone on sale for literally $7.49. People are literally defending buying $1 costume mods that cost 15% the price of a full 40 hour+ open world video game, or "weather overhaul" mods for $5, which is 70% of the price of a full 40+ hour open world video game. People expect you to spend over 1000% the price of the game itself just to flesh it out with a decent pool of mods. This is OK to them.

I swear, /v/ has gone down the shitter.

>>380911882
It will be interesting to see how many of these mods are actually just micro-transactions created by Beth themselves.

why were T2 ok with it till just now?

>>380911816
The only reason GTA V came to PC is because each and every mainline game in the series is on PC. They see a market for it.
Hell, Rockstar has always encouraged mods and posted the ones they liked on their blog up to V.

>>380911836
***As long as he pays enough money to buy the game 5 times over

>>380912052
>Rockstar has always encouraged mods and posted the ones they liked on their blog up to V.
except for OpenIV because that shit is malware lol

>>380912136
Console software is all malware lmao

>>380912128
**** :^)

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GTAIV w/DLC for $8.99 on PC, should I do it?

Not a fan of double dipping and I thought GTAIV was pretty average but I always wanted to play with the mods. Another thing that causes hesitation is the DRM which is supposedly a clusterfuck.

>>380912136
The only reason they're going after it now is because they've tried their level best to stop modders from coming in and giving everyone billions of hackerbucks which cuts into their potential shark card sales. If they weren't selling shark cards, they wouldn't give a shit about it.

>>380912409
Ballad of Gay Tony is p. litty but at this point you should just pirate it.

At this point does it matter if they piss off pc cucks?
Its best selling game ever so far and is still in the top charts

>>380911386
>If you can make money doing it more people will, plain and simple.

It's not that simple. All the content must be compatible with each other, available on all platforms, and not be a nightmare to localize (i.e. any voice-acted mod).

Gameplay modders are out as well as any other modder who could potentially make conflicting content. This rewards very specific types of modders and types of mods.

>>380912532
Keep posting this bullshit, it will magically become true.
Open IV doesn't work with GTA online at all.
Ever.
You dumb shit.

>>380912409
Just pirate it. It bypasses the DRM which would cut into your performance, and there's not much reason to play it online anyway.

>>380912679
>Open IV doesn't work with GTA online at all.
>Ever.
>You dumb shit.
Except all of the mods/trainers/hackquites that require it to run right?

>>380912575
t bh I really only want it for the mods, I always heard that particular dlc was a lot better but I think with my issues with gtaiv I'm fairly certain I wouldn't enjoy it much either

>>380912768
>Just outright lying.
Fuck off.

>>380912768
>outright denying fact
So you're retarded and shitposting. Good to know, i'll stop posting then.

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>there are more thumbs-downs than a theatre packed with Roger Ebert clones sitting through a Rob Schneider film festival
Okay I laughed my arse off at that

>>380912815
Well, the mods aren't going to magically change the core gameplay.

>>380912768
Let's blame the shooting on the gun manufacturer. What a dumb shit you are.

>>380912768
Zelnick detected

>>380913224
>iron man playable
>spider man playable
how the h*ck not sanpai?

>>380912728
Bro what you mean you don't like grinding the same 2 missions for months just to have enough money to buy the shit you'll use for 5 minutes then go back to grinding for months to afford the next batch of nearly identical shit?

>>380913354
I mean the gameplay that is already in there, like the driving and shooting. Also I'm pretty sure those mods were for San Andreas.

>>380913382
Because by "grinding" you mean playing the game itself. If you don't enjoy playing the game then don't do it.

>>380913486
naw, it's gtaiv, which would wholly take care of the driving and shooting since you're got dang iron man to be h

>>380909289
because you need to be retarded to be a bethesda fan.

>>380909923
They'll buy it either way, and they have more than once, since they have money to spend and GTA is a familiar franchise. This is doing literally nothing.

This is doing no harm to them and in 30 days the reviews will bounce back to overwhelming positive and openiv is still dead. I'm not sure why everyone is acting surprised about an editor being c&d.

Fast forward to next year the same people are going to buy RDR2. Jump to 2019 and people are buying it again. Then when the PC version comes out in 2020 people will buy it a 3rd time. You're delusional that this will affect normies.

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>>380909289
Have you met someone who unironically loves modern Bethesda op? They're the dumbest people on the planet, they wouldn't know what a boycott was if it him them in the ass.

>>380913623
Then I guess go for it. Enjoy paying 8.99 to play as iron man, I guess.

>>380912664
This is silly.
I'm talking about paid mods in general.
If you are talking about specifically bethesda's new program then you are using this post to explain why it is literally nothing.

>>380909289
Didn't they steal the idea for their stunt track dlc thing from a mod?
And now they're banning them?

Jews mayn

>>380909289
>Why can't Elder Scrolls fans stand up to Bethesda like GTA fans are doing?

Because even Bethesda isn't stupid enough to completely shitcan their modding community.

>>380913972
no joke, that was basically my question from the start lel

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>PKEKS demanding anything
LOL you should be happy GTA V is even on PC, you ungrateful faggots.

I just bought the game to support Rockstar and taketwo. I hate mods.

>Implying 23000 people were ever gonna download this shitty mod

Stop acting like SJW cunts.

>>380914072
>LOL you should be happy GTA V is even on PC
Eat shit, the game was going to be on PC whether your mommy bought you a console of [certain brand] or not.

>>380914072
i know you think it's funny to make these kinds of posts because it's fun to get a rise out of people, but please keep in mind that you are making this board worse

>>380914205
Are you a fucking idiot? Mods made this game great.

>>380910730
Also the fact that Fallout 4 is terrible for role playing. That's one of the biggest driving factors for why people play TES games, and continually mod them.

>>380913965
Millennials are what's wrong with the industry. They don't know how to boycott and are gullible to play every shit thing there is because it's popular

What a bunch of morons

>>380914260
If you wanna a hugbox, go back to pleddit then.

>>380914260
All that person want is (you)s. If you idiots stopped responding to them, they'd stop.

>stand up by buying the game but leaving a bad review

lmao

>>380914218
Like RDR did?

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>>380914072
>we should be grateful that they let us purchase their game

was stealing assets and using them for other projects, own fucking fault

>>380909923
You think "normies" give a shit about some angry video game "journalists" or "reviewers" say about GTA V on Steam? Most of them bought GTA V on console and don't care for this shit.

>>380913979
Rockstar actually used mods themselves before, like icenhancer to make Meltdown, one of the in-game movies in GTAV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77ap9UWQWGM

>>380914534
Like GTA I-IV before it.
Red Dead Revolver wasn't on PC either. Go beg for replies on some other thread, consolewarrior.

>>380914580
*PIRATE* their game

what is openIV?

>>380914608
>Most of the people reviewing the game on steam bought it on console and don't care for this shit
Were you born like this, son?

I'm not ever gonna support Rockstar after they screwed me on GTAIV authentication.

I can't even play the game I bought because of two separate logins you need.

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>>380914746
what?

>>380914804
modding tool for GTA that only affects single player and if you use multiplayer you get banned immediately.

>>380914919
Now go look at the console sales and the PC sales.

>>380914984
More like syntax and sentence structure. If you convey ideas properly, people will understand them. Pretending to be two different people is just baffling, good job.

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>>380915072
What?

>>380914704
>dat fucking green screen
oh fuck

>>380915139
Post the consoles now.

>>380915465
How about you do that since you brought it up?

>>380909923
Oh no, the most successful video game ever made (or even the most successful piece of media ever made) will sell less 4 years after his release, how will Rockstar ever recover? Probably wishing their tears away with those multi billion dollars they use as toilet paper because they have too much billions of dollars.
kek

>>380915720
Not an argument.

why doesn't /v/ just sue rockstar and take two?
you have infinite legal knowledge and can stop any corporation from issuing a C&D.

Rockstar are already sleazy motherfuckers. They pricejack right before sales, they triple dip by delaying PC ports until they've made sure to fully squeeze consoles first, they bound GTA5 all up in mandatory GTA Online cash shop shit where their garbage cheater software bans legitimate owners from playing their game without ever actually adversely impacting the cheaters using hacks in the game, etc. like, fuck rockstar in general, putting in DRM to prevent modding is just another thing to put onto the pile of Rockstar being a shit.

>>380914389
Can you explain what do you mean by roleplaying? How can mods do that? I mean isn't Skyrim an RPG so why would you need mods to roleplay?

>go to steam
>wrote review for game
>don't actually review the game, just insult the company making it

Wow

>>380911394
This. It literally says on Steam's T&S they will remove any en masse negative reviews if they feel they aren't legit (ie someone saying "go trash this game for me, guys")

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RIP graphic overhauls

>>380918625
Fixing of bugs, more immersion, more gameplay elements, etc

>>380917197
Not your personal army.
Grow up.

>>380920093
I see. Thanks

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you can still download openiv 2.9 and install it offline. blacklist it from accessing the internet and it wont try to update. all mods that previously worked, still do.

>>380909289
>leave bad review after you laready gave them your money
W-w-we sure showed them!
Right guys?

>>380910534
kek
>>380909289
What are you gonna do? You already spent all the time playing that game and paid for it. Rockstar doesn't give a shit. And RDR2 Online WILL be even worse. Either buy their shark cards like a good goy or complain and see nothing happen. That's exactly what happens when you look the other way when a developer does this and say "at least the DLC is free! Who cares if it's economy is worse than any MMO!?". The only way to make them listen is to not buy their games, but we know that won't happen. They are CoD tier powerful at this point.

>>380909676
last time bethesda tried paid modding the modders weren't the ones complaining. a lot of them jumped ship from free mods and either took all their free stuff down or kept it up but put ads in it that bug you to buy the paid version.
take two outright banned modding which pissed everyone off including modders.

Rockstar here.

Stop tainting our games with your shit.

>outlaw modding
>/v/ so contrarian it actually takes rockstars side

OH BOY I LOVE FIGHTING AGAINST MY OWN INTERESTS

GIVE ME THAT CORPORATE COCK MMMM

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>>380923046
Consumer Police here, freeze and put your wallet where I can see it! Those poor modders love your games more than anyone else and they deserve that hard earned 25%.

>>380923162
>Shitposting on a Minoan bull fighting forum
>Fighting against own interests

>>380911695
option 1
>make mods for free

option 2
>make mods and get paid

when TES6 comes out there wont be free mods anymore. this is our future, enjoy.

>>380921010
>being able to leave a review on a product you don't own
>product negatively changes when you've already purchased it
well aren't you a retard.

>>380923618
>Not pirating your mods.

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>>380923257
I'm sorry officer.
What are you doing tonight?

So why is GTAIV full of negative reviews?

>>380923989
Because it's bad

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POST YOUR FUCKING FACE WHEN AMERICANS WEAR SHOES INDOORS

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>>380924315
>mfw americans murder each other over politics.
>mfw americans let color issues get as bad as they are right now
>mfw americans make shit videogames

>>380924315
God I fucking hate americans, I swear they can fucking walk into their own houses tracking dirt everywhere then look back at it with their stupid fucking blank expression and then just turn around and keep walking because they don't fucking understand.

>>380924648

Unlike you, Americans can walk around outside without getting shit all over their shoes since our country is actually clean. My shoes don't have a fucking spec of dirt on them.

>>380924648
You mongoloid, you have indoor shoes that are perfectly clean and only wear them in your home. You put them on after you got home.

>>380924829
Are you seriously that fucked in the head you fucking Carrie Bradshaw

>>380924809
>>380924829
Americans expect me to believe their lies.

>>380923618
>option 1
>devs make video games for free

>option 2
>devs make games and get paid

when the next video game comes out there wont be free video games anymore. This is our futur-

WAIT A MINUTE

>>380911386
>If you can make money doing it more people will, plain and simple.
Because we don't have enough steel swords recolors.

>>380924942
>>380924981
Yuropoors might have a foot fetish smelling each other's fungi infested legs, but here we prefer covering your shit up.

>>380925183
You dense faggot we don't even do that shit in canada

>>380925183
Europoo's don't have fungus because they take their shoes off. You americans step in sewer water everyday and go to sleep with the shoes you fools.

Just give me some fucking interiors goddamn.
That's all I ask for in GTA V.

It's frustrating being able to go in only certain gas stations, and not able to go inside a burger shot at all.

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>>380925183
>be american
>put shoes in microwave
>clap when it's done
>mfw

>>380925392
Literally everyone has them. You can't smell yours because you got used to it. Ask your mom.

I wouldn't be so mad if they at least put all the mp stuff (cars, weapons) available in sp

>>380925103
If we reach market saturation of steel sword recolours new ones won't sell. What a dumb statement. Reminds me of like my mom saying I have too many videogames, different strokes for different folks.

>>380925605
I'm a girl loser.

>>380927049
Noone asked you fucking human gunt.

>>380909289
lol e-protest

>>380909289
what;s openIV?

>>380927620
Program to replace files in gta5 and 4 ect so you can add your own cars guns sounds bascially everything

>>380927261
girls don't have feet fungus sweetie. Your mom don't count.

>>380928215
Teehee hunny you don't even know ;)

>>380928414
Delete this you balding freak.

>>380928495
It's a widows peak habeeb

>>380915720
YOU JUST FUCKING LOST

>>380909424
But they do care, that's why GTA V is on PC you retard.

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>>380909386
>no one care about fallout 4
SUCH A GRAND AND INTOXICATING INNOCENCE