Sonic Mania Thread! Leaks, Rumours, what you want/expect, a

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>tfw starlight zone will never make it in Mania and we won't hear Tee Lopes version in game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qKh-5msybk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvD8NZN9Zsg

obligatory because of those fucking animations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Vp5aMPAUYQ

http://www.tssznews.com/2017/06/14/sonic-mania-boss-details-leaked/

>Jeff: So there’s a boss fight in there where you fuckin’ play Mean Bean Machine. Where you play Dr. Robotnik’s Mean Bean Machine. It just– it just erupts in to that. And you’re just like, “fuckin’ WHAT?”

>>380904014
I don't care. I'd rather they make an original and unique level.

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>>380904680
Guaranteed, everytime.

they are not showing them because they don't want to spoil anything

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>>380904590

>>380904879
I am so gosh darn excited to see this level.

naoto oshima himself, the designer of sonic played and gave the mania team his blessing at this e3, loved the fuck out of it in a interview

sega team eternally blown the fuck out

hyodrocity confirmed from leaker

>>380903670
Sonic 1 Remix Level: Green Hill Zone
Sonic 2 Remix Level: Chemical Plant Zone
Sonic 3 Remix Level: ? ? ?
Sonic K Remix Level: Flying Battery Zone

I'm assuming they might be going for one remix level per Genesis Sonic game, and my expectation is that, unless a Sonic 3 stage has already been revealed, Ice Cap or Carnival Night will be the next remixed classic level (most likely Ice Cap).

>>380905307
source

>>380905307
>>380905586
Damn, didn't read your post until I posted my speculation. Really hope it's not Hydrocity, but I guess it's likely.

>>380905586
In b4 Marble Garden.

>>380905586
daily reminder thy're double dipping with each game, so everybodu should add the second level they want from each game

actual big fucking leak this time, every spoilers, but if you watch the saloon gameplay, it's quiet obvious

The boss to the Mirage Saloon is Fang the Sniper, and the other two, which are in the videos but I have no clue what there name is.[/spoiler[

>>380904590
>Jeff: It has the elemental shield stuff from Sonic 3 that I was never a huge fan of.
Damn Jeff I didn't no somebody could be such a fucking faggot

>>380906137
Pretty sure all the new zones are using the Hard Boiled Heavies they revealed.

>>380906421

Both acts have bosses

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>>380907152
That's true, but considering all we've seen of Mirage Saloon is act 2 and it has both the wanted posters and portraits of the Heavy around I'd place my bets on the Heavy being the boss. So following that logic the act 1 boss is still a shot in the dark.

>>380905586
My set:
Sonic 1: Spring Yard Zone
Sonic 2: Mystic Cave Zone
Sonic 3: Ice Cap Zone
Sonic K: Sky Sanctuary

People started bitching about the hole that the Death Egg Robot makes when it's destroyed because they thought it would be a cheap death if you got caught under it.

Taxman made a post on Sonic Retro saying it's impossible to die from that which makes it sound like it could be a stage transition.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h8eu5jf2F4

>>380907462

Stage transition to Labyrinth Zone?

>>380907462
He's full of shit, I've seen people playing that died when the robot falls and opens up that hole

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>>380908872

That's probably just for the demo because they don't want to reveal what's down there.

I just played the 3DS 3D ports of Sonic 1 and Sonic 2, and 2 isn't as big of an improvement as I remembered. 1's acts last longer and give you more opportunity to fuck around with the physics than 2's faster paced acts. Also 1 doesn't have Metropolis zone. 2 is still a tad better but not by nearly as much as people make it out to be.

tldr Sonic 1 is underrated.

>>380905710
>Really hope it's not Hydrocity
Reggie asking what's wrong with you.jpg

>>380909630
I can agree with that, sonic 2 takes a downgrade in quality near the end and although 2 fixes some of the problems sonic 1 had I'd say it's a more consistent experience. Also marble zone isn't that bad, labyrinth on the other hand is kinda a pain but I'd rather deal with that than Metropolis zone.

>>380909829
Not him but Hydrocity is tied with Carnival Night as the worst Sonic 3 level.

>>380909630
Metropolis Zone is the best S2 zone and Sonic 1 is the best game.

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>The same 2d generic sonic shit

>>380909982
What the hell makes you say that? Marble garden zone is the worst in S3
>>380910078
>Metropolis Zone is the best S2 zone
You must be a masochist

>>380910169
That's Forces. This is Mania.

>>380909630
>>380909927
>>380910078
I played all 3 taxman ports in the last couple of days and Sonic 1 is honestly worse than I remember. I really don't have much praise for it. CD does physic playing a lot better than either and 2 has more enjoyable visuals and music than 1.
>>380910276
Marble Garden is a real shitstain on Sonic 3. What an awful level.

Starlight or Mystic Cave for a night stage, Hidrocity and Lava Reef(they will probably pull Death Egg again though)

>>380904014
>many asked the Mania team, if it is possible for 2 classic levels from same game
>they always say "just wait, we have more surprises"
>Stealth said that one of the fav things he made into the game haven't been showed yet
>claiming the levels were thought as a CD+S3&K
>that the game is longer than Generations

This shit will have the same amount of zones as S3&K combined for sure, there is room for a Star Light or a Mystic Cave

>>380904590
That's why Chemical Plant act 2 has those jelly machines,because those are the bean machines

>>380910347
Sonic 1 has much better level design than CD. So does Marble Zone for that matter. Like I'm used to /v/ having garbage taste but you're really pushing it.

>>380910602
He said marble GARDEN zone

>>380910602
CD is the best sonic game and it's a blight on this project that they're putting levels from the other games in it.

>>380910276
>You must be a masochist
I won't deny some flaws: like the crab hurtbox. But overall it's pretty satisfying going fast and avoiding the enemies.
Imo the worst S2 zone is Wing Fortress.

>>380906240
He didn't like 3 in general. He liked 2.

Real talk: Will we see Hyper forms?

>>380904014

They should have used this instead of Green Hill Zone for the 500th time.

>>380910979
Likely not.

>>380907438
>Spring Yard
Studiopolis already covers that

>>380910276
>be a kid
>hated Metropolis, Marble Garden and Carnival Night Act2(for being long like 6 to 8 minutes)
>keep playing all classics over the years
>get better and learn the right paths and shortcuts
>don't take damage in those zones and do them fast as hell(like Carnival act 2 in 3 minutes and half)
>those 3 zones are now my favorites for the branching paths and secrets

You know Metropolis Zone act 3 when those 2 set of bolts happens? You know how there are slicers right before that? Don't kill them. If you kill them one of their cousins will appear the top throwing you down before the teleporter. If don't kill them he isn't there. It is little shit like this that makes these zones better

>>380910672
Yeah I meant Marble Garden. Although Marble Zone also gets shit on unfairly. /v/ just likes the low-effort stages they can rush through. Hell I'm starting to think you guys rate levels based soley on the music.

>>380910682
CD is the worst 2D Sonic game and that's including 4.

>>380910347
>2 has more enjoyable visuals and music
So thats how shit taste looks like

>level designers are designing the levels to be wide like CD, but more streamlined like 3&K
Sound good or bad?

>>380910873
Sky Chase is the worse. It is only good the first time, after that it is a chore doing that 2 minute zone with the enemies in the same places

>>380911325
CD should have been the only sonic, though they truly fixed the level design with the Advance and Rush games once they realized that platformers are supposed to be about death pits and not long stretches of fucking nothing.

>>380909982
hydrocity is literally the best s3k level you double nigger

>>380904418
This one is jammin!

>>380910602
>Sonic 1 has much better level design than CD.
How though? Marble has platforming sure, but it's basic as all hell just because it isn't hold right it doesn't make it good, Spring yard has those stupid elevator segments that drag down an otherwise okay level, Labyrinth is the worst water level in the classic series, Starlight is okay but too short and the visuals are pretty bland to be honest, and Scrap Brain I generally like but then Act 3 is just Labyrinth again but with a shortcut if you don't feel like fucking with it. CD has some questionable design in places(no real incentive for good futures, Wacky Workbench, spike balls all over Stardust Speedway) but it is by far a much more interesting game.
>So does Marble Zone for that matter
Is this referring to me mentioning Marble Garden from 3? Yeah m8 awful level.
>>380911349
CDjp>3&K>2>1 in terms of ost.

>>380911571
Is it pronounced Hydro City or Hydrocity?

CDfags need to be gassed.

>>380911742
It's pronounced "Shit Level"

>>380911409
Until now it looks good. Chemical Act 1 looks like a mix of Sonic 2 and Sonic 3, but act 2 looks like CD+3(more horizontal+speed). Then you have Green Hill act 1, Studiopolis or Mirage Salloon that looks like Sonic 1 speedy levels(like Starlight) but with platforming too from 1. Green Hill Act 2 looks like S3
They are really mixing shit up to please all fans from the classics and CD

>>380911904
The level designers for Mania are big fans of CD, though

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>>380912020
>Hydrocity
>shit level
This is not about Metropolis you autistic dipfuck.

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>>380903670
Here's a developer interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04nBdQU9rbc&t=331s

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>>380906019
>thy're double dipping with each game
You fuckin kiddin me? What a waste.

>>380911152
They hate spikes. They probably run into spikes all the time and against those flying spiky robots, because of running like retards. They probably don't know the amount of paths that shit has

It's like those who say that cant find big rings on certain levels, like Marble Garden, Carnival, Flying Battery, Sandapolis or Lava Reef

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>>380912020
You've got some nerve.

>>380910979
I've heard that Hyper Forms won't be included in the game,but I think it was a rumor.....

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I'm still holding out for a Magic-Based level in Mania. One of the HBH's have a tophat in the silhouette picture, so I think it's going to get in.

What new level theme are you hoping for?

>>380904590
I'm looking forward to this so much. Hope that you can play this in multiplayer.

>>380904590
Giant Bomb wouldn't be Giant Bomb without condescending super hard and fucking up like this. Still, that boss sounds great.

Game looks great and I can't wait to play it.

I can't wait for [zone that has been in a dozen games of sonic like green hill] to be shown AGAIN!!!!! really excited to see my favorite level redone ONCE AGAIN i really hate new things!

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>>380905109
>sonic team eternally blown the fuck out
Tell me about it.

>>380908872
Can you post an example?

>>380905109
Source?

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>>380912809

Robotnikland, pic not related.

>>380913094
7:54

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVzB7UIsZ3o

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>>380912571
>It's like those who say that cant find big rings on certain levels, like Marble Garden, Carnival, Flying Battery, Sandapolis or Lava Reef

they're all over the place in those ones, jesus fuck what is wrong with people?

>>380911325
>4
>over ANYTHING
You're retarded, m8.

>>380908273
Either they're just trying to have spicy opinions, or they all grew up with an SNES instead of a Genesis. Complete fox and grapes situation.

>>380906421
>>380907426
The Heavy Gunner is confirmed to be the boss of Studiopolis act 1, don't see why the rest of them wouldn't be mini bosses as well.

>>380903670
Whats the point in so much active discussion and disection in what will ultimately be a two hour game?
>OMG x STAGE LEAKED!
>WOAH PREPARE TO EXPERIENCE THIS THREE MINUTES OF GAMEPLAY

>>380913473
In Flying Battery is pretty obvious they don't know how to spindash or push some spikes and let the character fall down through a tube. At least 2 big rings are hidden like that and in one Mania's trailers there is one spike like that too

>>380909273
Alternate routes, maybe?

>>380914018
It's like people are excited for it or something.

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>>380914143
>Alternate routes
>imediatly after beating the stage boss
It's a level transition to Labyrinth Zone.

>>380913094

https://mobile.twitter.com/NaotoOhshima/status/875013112734269441

>>380909982
Bullshit. What does Hydrocity do even half as terrible as Carnival Night act 2's almost 9 minute long trek? You just saying that because "hurf durf water level?"

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I like the retro 'just Sonic, Tails, and knuckles' in Mania, but I don't get the aversion to additional playable characters some people have.

Playing as Amy or Blaze for example in a 2d Sonic doesn't seem bad of an idea, so long as they can spindash.

>>380914525
It literally boils down to "Not muh childhood."

They played Sonic back in the 90's and haven't glanced in his direction since, and want 100% of the focus on where they left off.

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>>380914525
The riff happened when people complained about other characters only bringing gimmicky filler gameplay that took away from the Sonic gameplay people liked, but Sonic Team simply took this to mean people didn't like the other characters period and instead chose to just slap gimmicky filler gameplay on Sonic himself while slowly removing the other characters from the games.

>>380914525
>Blaze
Oh yeah, that wouldn't clash with the classic art style and designs at all.

>>380914457
>Carnival Act 2
>9 minutes

Kek. Just find the right paths and do it for half of it.

>>380914525
I dont mind extra character if they play the same as others. Be Blaze, Amy, Shadow, Metal Sonic, or some of the Chaotix.

>>380914340
Or Marble.

Scrap Brain is also a possibility (Act 3 in S1)

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>>380914525
Blaze came out at an unfortunate time, but does stand out as a good character. I also loved how Amy played in Advance so i'd be cool with both of them. Maybe Amy at least could be in the sequel. I don't think Blaze has a chance.

>>380914851
Are you suggesting they remove her clothes?

Awesome

>>380914957
Amy was actually really fun. I like the gimmick of walloping springs with her hammer to send her extra high.

>>380914906
Oh yeah, jump into a pit around a massive lake and end up in Marble/Scrap Brain, that totally makes sense. Check the stage select screen for Sonic 1 to see the original level order in that game.

>>380914989
No?

>>380915287
What I'm hearing is you want to see some exposed puss.

>>380903670

>Recordings are always by people who can't remotely function in games that aren't shooters

FUCKING FUCK FUCKER FUCK

>>380914851

I would like a handheld Sonic, like a Sonic advance 4.

Playable Characters - Sonic, Knuckles, Tails, Cream, Rouge, Amy, and Blaze.

>>380915152
I know the Labyrinth was supposed to be the second level in the game. Scrap Brain has that Labyrinth-like part which makes it a possibility.

Or we get a new zone, but that's unlikely.

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Daily reminder to all the people saying same level shit

Act 1 is different green hill zone with new added routes and everything, and act 2 is complete maniafied and fucking off the walls different

another reminder, that if you want to see a 2d sonic game with entirely new levels, buy this game, and whitehead will be given full go ahead with mania 2 to go fucking insane with new levels in the sequel

>>380914340

>Sonic Mania
>Labyrinth Zone

There's nothing they can do to make that level less shit

>people thinking it's going to drop into Lab zone

ladies and gents, I can assure you, it's going to drop into hydrocity.

>>380916326
Not like they add new gimmicks and expand and completely change the level layout for the returning zones or anything.

>>380916459
Sonic 1 and 3 take place in completely different island, so not possible.

>>380914525
I'm a Classicfag but wouldn't mind seeing some of the other characters so long as they played well. Amy, Shadow, Blaze, or some of the Chaotix people would be fine. My issue was never the characters themselves but rather the ways they were implemented. Playing as anyone other than Sonic or Tails in SA1, or Sonic/Shadow in SA2, was a nightmare. And let's not get started on Shadow and Silver in 06.

>>380916308
>2011
>Sonic CD remake
>allowed to include Tails as a playable character
>Taxman wanted to include a new stage and final boss (Desert Dazzle and Final Fever respectively)
>Sega said no

>2013
>Sonic 1 remake
>Sega allowed Taxman and Stealth to include Knuckles as a playable character along with Tails again+both get their own secret sections
>allowed to add a secret 7th Special Stage that lets you unlock Super Sonic

>2013
>Sonic 2 remake
>Taxman and Stealth were allowed to remake Hidden Palace with new level design, gimmicks, enemies and boss and add it to the game
>were not allowed to add Egg Gauntlet though

>now
>Sonic Mania
>brand new game and not a remake like their last few projects
>allowed to create brand new levels, but not for the entire game
>had to include returning levels but were allowed to remix them (tame act 1s and more drastically changed act 2s)

>>380916602

It'd still be bar none the worst underwater level in the franchise, even counting some 3D affairs

>>380916602
>mania

nobody takes the name into consideration, this game is insane, the whole point is that things are completely changed and it isn't the same world, we already know that a boss out of nowhere turns into mean bean machine

>>380912809

>Top hat

CARNIVAL NIGHT
A
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>>380916794
Only problem with Labyrinth Zone is the boss. I mean it's still worse than Aquatic Ruin and Hydrocity but it's not a bad level.

>>380916809
Taxman already said that there's a story reason why Sonic and co are returning to these old zones. Mania is not some "random level pack because lol" game.

>>380916997
They only appear in the brand new stages.

>>380914131

Pushing spikes is counter-intuitive to Sonic gameplay. I don't blame them.

>>380916308
>and whitehead will be given full go ahead with mania 2 to go fucking insane with new levels in the sequel
Maybe, if Sega doesn't attribute the game's success to the return of their old retro levels. Watch as Sega forces him to squeeze them into every future game too.

Okay, I went to E3 this year and stood in the line for Sonic, was at the booth, there was this god damn giant sonic ring hanging from the celing, it was insane, anyway.

>the new drop dash

Ladies and gentleman, every piece of footage doesn't show off how fucking GENIUS that small addition is, wait until the speed runners get a hold of this game, you think sonic goes fast by holding right? The drop dash mechanic changes fucking everything, it adds a new fluid style which practically breaks all previous 2d sonic games, it's like being given the ability to fucking sprint and then going back to only being able to walk

It just feels so fucking fluid and if you're -actually- good at the game, which, I am, you can just keep this constant state of speed with the drop dash, it's phenomenal

the music is jizz tier aswell, everybody was having a blast with it, if this game doesn't sell well, there is no god

>>380917195
>Implying God exists

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>>380917195
Did you get a poster?

>>380916326
>There's nothing they can do to make that level less shit
The existence of spindash
Bubble shield
Ability to run above water

And those 3 things could be achieved with just S3 mechanics. Also they could (and should) redesign the level.

>>380917335
Oh god I have been out of the loop but what the fuck is that near Eggman.

>>380917154
>Pushing spikes is counter-intuitive
I wouldn't go that far. Sonic has a "push" animation. It only stands to reason that you should try to push up against things. Besides, it's hardly required. If people push up against something and discover a secret, it's nothing but icing on the cake.

If there's an area where you absolutely cannot proceed without pushing a path open, yeah that becomes counter-intuitive.

>>380917335
I did, I hate the forces one because of the OC character, and I really want to put up the Mania one but it's autistic as fuck, so I'll just have it somewhere safe and be like fuck yeah mania poster.

>>380917195
>drop dash
Speaking of which, it's been confirmed that the Mania Team came up with that, even though Forces has been longer in development.

https://youtu.be/LpenUFkUqHI?t=11m31s

>>380917154
Experimenting is only counter-intuitive if you're a retard. You don't need to rush through the stages every single time.

>>380917195
Drop dash seems like spin dash where it's such an obvious addition that it's amazing nobody thought of it before. Can't wait for Sonic Team to lift it for their next game.

I suppose new playable characters can be DLCs.

>>380917195

Only Sonic gets the drop-dash though, right?

>>380917195
Yeah I've noticed a distinct lack of drop dash in all the new gameplay from e3.
>>380917601
>Can't wait for Sonic Team to lift it for their next game.
It's in Forces with Classic Sonic.

>>380917570
Could you scan the Mania one by any chance?

>>380917475
New villain named Infinite

>>380917475
Infinite, a new villain.

>>380917721
>it's in Forces
Holy shit really? That's hilarious. Hopefully they'll steal more stuff and make classic Sonic play better.

>>380917475
That's Metal Sonic.

>>380916308
>and whitehead will be given full go ahead with mania 2 to go fucking insane with new levels in the sequel
Doubt, because of lizuka.

>>380917195
Replayed Sonic 2 the other day and everytime I am jumping I am thinking "what If I had drop dash here?".
I really hope if someday they get the phone versions of Sonic 1 and 2 to steam/etc they add Drop Dash like they did with the normal spindash in CD Remake

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>>380904590
>Mean Bean Machine boss
If this is true I will squeal like a little girl

>>380917901

In one of the IGN Forces videos during classic Sonic's boss he uses drop dash. I laughed at first, but it works, but it seems off compared to Mania

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tDMLXn99P4

When you run out of ideas for Sonic so you just throw in everything, OC, all the bad guys, and literally, unironically, make a OC FAN GAME, but it's official.

>>380918058
Multiple journos who got an early preview have mentioned it, it's real and it's for Chemical Plant act 2, obviously.

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>>380918206

>>380917901
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGqVsuU3Jbw&feature=youtu.be&t=37

>>380917195
I loved the drop dash... But i dislike its input.
I mean the command being double jump means >only sonic can use it
>no insta-shield
>can't use it while having the elemental shields

>>380917335
Wish I got the Mania one. I did end up getting that Skuzzles one from a few days ago though.

But yeah, I got to play it at PAX last year, and that drop dash is great like >>380917195 said.

>>380918941
>only sonic can use it
That's the entire point:

https://youtu.be/LpenUFkUqHI?t=11m31s

>>380912809
This picture, is it official?

>>380919097
>THAT fucking OC gameplay in Forces

is-- is it meant to be bad? am I just not kino enough to see how good it really is?

my fucking god that looks awful

>>380919243
It really doesn't look as interesting as either Sonic.

>>380919243
I think the game overall will be decent but the OC stages are guaranteed to suck. They have to design them to accommodate a bunch of different abilities and thus will be homogenized as fuck.

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>>380919143
Yes. I think that ones is from the Japanese website for Mania.

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The real question /v/

Will it be topped?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccpY14bXcug

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>>380912809
Middle bot is Mirage Saloon boss.
Leaked Hesse art from cutscene

>>380919243
It's literally Shadow the Hedgehog mode, just with pieces of Modern Sonic 2D sections added in.

>>380919425
It would take a damn good song and some damn good Tyson Hesse animations to top it, but if anything can do it, it's this.

I don't think it'll be topped though.

>>380919495
>from the cutscene
except Mania is confirmed to have in-game cutscenes ala Sonic 3 & Knuckles, not animated shit.

Silver Sonic > Metal Sonic

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>>380919495
>that fucking animation

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>>380919495
>cutscene
No cutscenes, but maybe from the ending, similar to that Metal Sonic scene from CD's ending.

>>380918941

>only Sonic can use it

The entire point is that Sonic is the only one that can use it.

But I'm not fan of the input either as the insta shield is gone and the ability is lost when you get a shield. I don't know why it's just a down input.

>>380919636
Endgame cinematic, rather. They seem to be keeping CD style

>>380919495
LOOK HOW FUCKING CUTE THAT LITTLE BLUE HEDGEHOG FUCK IS, HE KNOWS HOW GOD DAMN CUTE HE IS, FUCK HIM, THE LITTLE RAT.

>>380919657
Mecha Sonic>all

First boss of Sonic Mania is the final boss from Sonic 2

what in the ever living fuck is the final boss to Mania going to be?

>>380919243

>OC has whip of screen filling ezmode kills

What the fuck

>>380919885
The first boss of Sonic 2.

>>380919495

Why do you assume there's animated cutscenes?

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>>380919885
Final Fever or something just as cool.

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Pick your level. What do you want to see?

>That fucking feel when I want to see shitty levels remastered just to hear the music, but I hate the fucking level

tee lopes I'll play every shitty sonic level to hear your jams

>>380919885

The first boss of Sonic 2.

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>>380919803
We all thought Mecha Sonic was strong because of Super Mario Bros. Z., and you know it's true. He's a shit nerfed copy of Silver Sonic with nothing new and the Knuckles boss version isn't much of a challenge either.

>>380919885

It's going to be Egg Dragoon.

>>380919954
>Was going to be the new final boss over the crap one but SoJ froth at the thought a gajin decimating their pure japanese game with his filth.

>>380919987
>>380919945


.... you've cracked it, anons.

>>380919885
T A I L S D O L L
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D
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>>380920025
>I never played as Knuckles

>>380919985
I want new levels.

>>380919985
AZURE LAKE
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>>380919425
>aspect raidou and upscaling to 720p just to appeal to retards
>on top of trancoding for no reason, it even manages to introduce artifacts due to a dogshit encoder

Pure cancer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCSL7naH-8A

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>>380917576
>bubble shield protects you from hazardous chemicals
Neat.

>>380920206
could you explain what any of that means please, anon

>>380919985
From Sonic 1:
>Spring Yard
>Star Light
From Sonic 2:
>Aquatic Ruin
>Casino Night
>Mystic Cave
>Actual Hidden Palace and not S&K/S2iOS bullshit
From Sonic 3 (& Knuckles):
>HYDROCITY HOLY FUCK I WANT IT NOW
>Ice Cap?
>Lava Reef
From Sonic CD:
>Collision Chaos
>That's about it because I didn't enjoy the other stages at all

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>>380920201

>>380919985

They need to Mania-ify Secret Base Zone from Sonic Advance 1

Still my fucking jam. I wanna hear what Tee Lopes can do to THAT shit

>>380920201
This guy gets it.

>>380920385
>spring yard and starlight

my genuine, fucking nigga

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Vp5aMPAUYQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qKh-5msybk

Is there a nigger hedge hog?

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>>380920620
>that fucking spring yard

Tee Lopes I'll suck your dick

>>380920581
Good taste. I'd love to see them remaster the level as well and come up with new spy themed gimmicks.

>>380920385
>Hydrocity

anon, you're in luck

>>380919723
Honestly, the insta-shield plus the elemental shields abilities are better than flying or gliding.

>>380920620
https://youtu.be/s36tWHZbN5s

>>380920904
>You can't make good music with the Sega Genesis's sound ch-

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>>380920904

>>380919985
Rusty Ruin, Gene Gadget, or Panic Puppet (act 2). Genesis versions of course.

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Are we seriously going to have to wait for the game to come out just to see someone used the drop dash intentionally and not by accident?

>>380921213
yes, wait until the speed runners get a hold of this game, none of the footage shows it properly

it is going to defy the line gotta go fast

>>380921156
https://youtu.be/FfG09iLCKsM
https://youtu.be/HuWXGH3UBbM
https://youtu.be/BgdpfeM8evU

>>380920364
There are three ways to make a 4:3 video 16:9. One, you leave black borders. Two, you stretch the image horizontally. Three, you crop it vertically. The only one that's irreversibly destructive is the last one, and it's what the first linked video did.

>>380921536
ah alright, thank you.

FUCK THOSE GUYS.

>>380919985
Scrap Brain
Metropolis
Launch Base
Death Egg

I never before thought about what Sonic sees in those 2D games, from a 3D perspective. huh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvVnYsjt8yc

>>380921835
>Metropolis
Why

>>380919885
The entire Death Egg.

>>380921902
Why not?

>>380921890
>First person
>Camera not constantly spinning
???

>>380921890
Not enough spinning. Imagine this with VR though.

>>380921720
>>380921536
Actually, it was stretched horizontally. The problem with transcoding is that you're degrading the video every time you do it. If you were to compare it to static images, it's like saving a JPEG image over and over again. Just compare the two videos, and you'll see that the second one has less dropped frames (video looks smoother) and looks sharper (less artifacts, more details).

I hope every Act 2 song is a funky groovy version of every Act 1 song like it seems to be right now. I can't wait to hear the Studiopolis Act 2 and actual Mirage Saloon Act 2 music.

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>>380903670
No Shadow?

Not interested. Kill yourself.

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>>380920850

Just take some liberties from another SEGA property entirely, add some egg-sniper crosshairs to avoid, maybe some 'stealth' like how Launch Base had alarms, and getting caught leads to alternate routes, etc.

>Outrunning a hall lined with C4 blowing up behind you.
UNF

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>>380921213
>Mania videos
>breakable wall
>push wall
>jump around
>stop for like 10 seconds not knowing what to do
>not spindashing the wall
>go up, go through a slope but troll spring gets you back
>go down and find another path where just run forward
>don't use spindash when using momentum, run slowly instead
>don't use drop dash
>use Knuckles, don't glide
>use Tails, fly everytime don't spindash

Some videos are just terrible to watch

>>380922415
Chances are that that is Mirage Saloon act 2 we're hearing. Since they're entirely new zones, we don't know what to expect, unlike green hill and chemical plant which have a remaster (act 1) plus a reimagination (act 2).

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRs1BqezP-I

On a scale of 1 to regret, how much do you think they regret making this game and calling it Sonic 4?

>>380919985
I want more of the Sonic 3 competition zones to get full levels. I wanna see Chrome Gadget or Balloon Park get one.

>>380922765
why does 3d modern sonic look like a fucking abomination? he translates so fucking well in 2d, but I detest this 3d design holy god what the fuck shoot it

>>380903670

>Still no leak of that Mini-boss theme from Green Hill Act 1

UUUUUUUGH

>>380922765
They very much regret it now. They didn't even finish it's suppose trilogy of episodes. Just forever unfinished as a testament to it's failure.
But even though, Episode 2 had some sound ideas under it's belt. I liked White Park and Oil Desert.

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>>380922765
regret/10

>>380922765
I hope they regret it even further.

>>380922210
>>380922247

They seem to know where they are going even when spinning. I mean, somehow.

Realistically, how many levels do we think this fucker will have? It is confirmed to be bigger then generations, which I believe has... 8 zones..? 9?

>>380922765
They probably regret it a lot. Not like, internet drama playing shit up. I think they legitimately regret it. Holy shit what a backfire that was.

>>380922765

In my mind, Sonic Mania is the real Sonic 4. The 4 that should have been.

>>380923167

CD isn't on that elevator panel.

>>380923426
>CD isn't on that elevator panel.
Because Little Planet hasn't appeared yet.

>>380922765
4 wasn't that bad desu.

>>380923398
At least 12 zones.

>>380923398
As much as S3&K with maybe more.

>>380923398
10-11?

You got five from 1, 2, 3, &K, and CD.

And a new one per Hard Boiled Heavy, which looks to be five. Then you got whatever the final zone is.

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>>380923543
It was atrocious and a complete slap in the face for any classic fan.

>>380903670
Where it all began:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJa-4tMqVNc

>>380923543
Episode 1 was legit just a Sonic 2 remix project with shittier music and graphics.

>>380923785
real talk?

I wish that Sonic Mania sprite was the same one from the animation trailer, and not sprite based or pixel, w/e the fuck it is

>>380923543
I played the demo for a few minutes, then I stopped. Sonic the Hedgehog is my first video game, you cannot simply make such a half assed release and expect no one to notice.

>>380923994
>with shittier music and graphics
and gameplay and level design

>>380923987
Taxman is a smart boy.

I'm gonna guess 6 classic zones (2 from each game), 4 new zones, capping off with a final Doomsday-esq final boss

>>380923987
>when your autistic love for Sonic is so god tier that Sega hires you and all your years of effort go full circle and you save Sonic the god damn hedgehog

this meme timeline has some good things

>>380924072
Putting the homing attack so half-assed into a 2D game was a bad idea.

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>>380922857
Sonic has looked off since 06/Unleashed.

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>>380924167
>tfw your autistic love for Sonic won't amount to anything

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omKGDC4JaMU

really, really interesting watch if you lot like to know how these fucks go where they are now

>>380924328
I won't lie, Boom Amy is alright.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcVN7U96mvI

I mean, I don't want to say animations got worse, but, animations got worse.

Why is Sonic dress-- guys, why is soni-- guys.

why is sonic dressed like that


GUYS

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>>380924328
>Those Adventure renders
While I'll always prefer the cutesy classic designs, Uekawa's exaggerated poses and designs are fucking neat.

>>380924612
Sonic Boom has some decent jokes sometimes but they need to not try and do fight shit.

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>>380924032
:^)

>people genuinely believe sonic cd amy won't appear

oh you sweet summer children, if fang the sniper and the other two hoodlums are appearing, you can rest assure amy will be there

however, people who want Shadow will be disappointed

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>>380924878
Oh -god- that looks so fucking good

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>>380924901

>Shadow -does- appear!
>He's some statue only.
>Character your playing as does an automatic taunt/laugh/pose if you sit next to it for 10 seconds that isn't the usual 'waiting' pose.

They better not listen to the retards and avoid having a true water zone. Especially with the bubble shield.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBITnBK2zCg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nci7IaulSx4

>>380924612
Sonic Boom is a snarky meta comedy show. Not a fight anime.

>>380924998
I mean that's still a sprite.

>>380906240
Typical Sonic 2 Nostalgiafags

>>380910895
He's a fucking nostalgia casualfag who receieved his Genesis in Christmas of '92 and always sucked too much to even beat Sonic 1

All of these IGN, Gamespot etc. guys are the same fucking shit. Absolutely insufferable.

>>380924090
>6 classic zones (2 from each game)
That it would be 8.

>4 new zones
There's 5 Hard Boiled Heavies, so at least 5 new zones for each of them+a final 2 act zone.

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>>380924998
>>380924878

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>>380925560

Decided I'm gonna get a switch and buy it on that. I hope sega keeps them on to do keep doing 2d sonic games

>>380906137
Those boys!
Bark and Bean, you fucking pleb

>>380925560
>>380925652
Where's the fucking smoothness nigga

>>380909630
3K/3 complete hack>1>2>CD

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>>380925652

>>380925107
That's a cool Aquatic Ruin mix, but it's so damn tropical. I know that seems to be Tee Lopes thing, but it doesn't fit the zone at all.

>>380909927
Labyrinth Zone is my favorite zone in the game

>>380925719
Sonic 3 Complete is the only way to play S3&K these days.

>>380925560
>>380925652

ok those are shit, the standing one is god tier, those are a little.. off.

https://youtu.be/Og0F97Y-p7c

>>380911325
Knuckles Chaotix is worse than CD, and 4 is worse than both. CD isn't the masterpiece some claim, but it has some really great sections and ideas. The time travel is super cool, the music is awesome, and the level design is occasionally brilliant. Overall the level design is kind of bland and vertical for the sake of being vertical (not nearly as bad as Chaotix verticality though). But the level where you shrink is cool, and there's that killer almost Tetris trap in that one level.

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>>380925714
You mean The Boys, Those Dudes.

>>380920201
Chrome Gadget is superior.

>>380926260
It's gonna be great seeing these boys again

>>380926584
compare these phyiscs to the sonic 4 video

based taxman and whithead and co

>>380918941
>can't use it while having the elemental shield
For me, that's the best part. It creates this cool risk/reward system. Like yeah, you can get a shield to protect you from damage and help you explore the level, but you sacrifice speed. A skilled player more than likely wouldn't need the protection of a shield either.

>>380909982
Kill yourself

>>380926971
>taxman and whithead
That's the same person.

>>380910276
>>380910347
>Le Marble garden zone is bad meme
Kill yourself

>>380927059
I like the elemental shields for their mobility properties. I love launching with the fire shield, bouncing with the water shield and double jumping with the lighting shield.

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>tfw never ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct1cErthI6s

>>380911325
>CD is the worst 2D Sonic game and that's including 4.
Now that is going way too far

Sonic 4 is cancer incarnate
Advance 2,3, the game gear games are all worse games
Advance 1(though good) is inferior too

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>>380924878
>>380925560
>>380925652
>>380925738
The mods are already close to coming, I can feel it.

I need to know what the fucking special stage for Mania is

you just know it is going to be a fucking mind fuck

>>380910672
Marble Garden is the best level in the series and one of the best designed levels in video game history

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>Game's only 100mb on PC
>Requirements are so low that even a toaster could run Mania

>>380927158
It is. Boring thematically, obnoxious as fuck music in a game with generally good music, and stupid fucking gimmicks like tops/pulleys/heads.

>>380927482
I want to kick that dog, and I don't advocate animal cruelty in any way shape or form

I just need to kick it into space

>>380911409
The levels look alright but not as interesting or as tight as 3K. Granted can't expect them to design levels as good as the GOAT Yasuhara.

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>>380927594
>Marble Garden
>obnoxious as fuck music

>>380927457
>Sandopolis is the best level in the series and one of the best designed levels in video game history
ftfy

>>380919954
What if this is the Sonic CD boss if Metal Sonic isn't it?

>>380916326
That Zone is GOAT. Can't fix your shit plebeian taste tho.

>>380927605
Don't kick the pupper, anon

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>>380927482
>Requires Windows 7 at minimum
>On Windows Vista
I can still run it, r-right?

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>>380927685
>that fucking picture

I'm done

>>380916326
git gud

>>380903670
>no Amy
I don't see why I should be hyped for more Sonic 3, though Sonic Forces is looking better and better

>>380927868
>Running a Windows version whose support has ended except if you are using XP, then all fine
Nigga what

>>380928006
I'm a poorfag bro. It's fine though, I could always get it on PS4 instead.

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>>380928001
>I don't see why I should be hyped for more of the best game in the series

>>380927748
>not Labyrinth

>>380924167

Like the exact opposite of chris_chan.

Can Tails/Knuckles use the elemental shields instashield abilities now? That used to be what made Sonic unique compared to that broken shit Tails and the Drop Dash doesn't seem that useful now that Knuckles can jump higher.

>>380919604
Bring back Keiko Utoku.
>tfw Casey Renkin is ded

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>>380917475
it's coldsteel

>>380928217
No, just Sonic can use the shields.

>>380924328

I love that boom cartoon.

>>380920025
Nah nigga Mecha Sonic can go Super

>>380928310

>Character so edgy it doesn't even have porn of him cucking tails yet.

WEW

>>380927379
Oh yeah? Then I want to know about the bonus stages and many are there
And and if there is a 2p mode like S2 and 3
And a debug mode
And what cheats will they use to access the select zone screen
>>380927482
They said it would be like a Sonic sequel on the saturn, so yeah.

>>380923785
I've been playing Sonic since I got a Genesis/Sonic bundle as a kid. I've played the classics hundreds of times and, while I enjoy some games from the 3D eras, I am very much a Classicfag. Sonic 4 was nowhere near as good as the Genesis games, and it never should have been called Sonic 4, but taken on its own it's not as bad as you people make it out to be. The series has seen many worse games. Compared to other 2.5D platformers it was at the very least passable.

am i a bad person for wanting to see Sonic dressed in sprite form like in Mario Oddesey...?

Sonic goes to Carnival zone, gets a little top hat.. come on, implying you wouldn't eat that shit up.

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>Sonic Heroes 2
>These are the teams
Would you play?

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>>380928131
>wanting more of the same
Why

>>380919106
Based Whitehead realizes Chaotix was the superior Knuckles sprite

>>380924717
Adventure 1 Sonic's model was the best he's ever looked in 3D. Adventure 2 started the dumb green eye skinnier shit that the later games continued. Generations classic Sonic is okay but a little too chubby.

>>380928403
>Sonic 4
Just that repetitive 20 seconds loop on every track makes me sick and unable to ever fully finish one of those episodes.

>>380919985
Star Light
Labyrinth

Aquatic Ruin
Mystic Cave

Hydrocity
Launch Base
would say Marble Garden but they can't top perfection

Lava Reef
Sandopolis

Collision Chaos
Quartz Quadrant

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>>380928447
If they fixed the controls and level design
And made the special stage not a walking programmers mess then i'll be down.

>>380928362
Because he had access to the Master Emerald, also not to mention the transformation was short and he had to use it again, and again, and again. Pathetic.
Then again, Metal Sonic (which IS the superior one) can use the Chaos Emeralds to become a fucking end of the World machine for unlimited time. How is Mecha the nig gonna top that? (and even if he had full access to the Emeralds he'd just pretty much go Super and that's all)

>>380921156
Nigger
Saturn version shits on Genesis

>>380919106
Are you ever going to fill in those tails?

>>380928496
>Says this as he is excited for Generations 2.

>>380928447
>hero
>dark
>amy
>trash bin
>chaotix
>lit who
>skate
>robots + meme

Did I get the team names right?

>>380928078
>I'm a poorfag
then pirate

>>380928586
Well yeah the music is awful. I won't defend that. Somehow episode 2 made it even worse.

>>380922765
They don't give a shit
Sonic Team is a piece of shit

>>380928762
The custom characters will shake up the formula.

>>380928717
>Saturn version is shit
ftfy
The only good thing about that version is the special stage.

>>380928496
only 4 of the stages will be based off of older games

>>380928217
Who cares, it is a single player games. I mostly played Sonic. Found Tails and Knuckles as a one time novelty then always went back to Sonic.

>>380924328
>Sonic has looked off since Adventure
ftfy

>>380928850
Oh yeah, Modern Sonic minus the boost will sure shake up that formula.

>>380928310
>DARK OC
I'm laughing so hard

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>>380928771
>Team Future
>Team Hooligan
>Team Babylon Rouges
I give your shit post 2/10.

>>380928440
Sonic Odyssey already happened with Unleashed. Would've been nice if he got hats and jackets and stuff.

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>>380928790
>pirating Mania
How dare you.

>>380928447
>>380929331
Credit for no Archie characters.

>>380928447
>Team Rush
>Team Riders
>Team Triple Trouble
>Team Robo
Yes, yes I would.