do you think that the switch is going to fail ? >new console

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I used to be worried but

>mainline zelda
>mainline mario
>mainline metroid
>mainline pokemon
>mainline monster hunter
>xenoblade sequel

I don't need anything else really, 5 game rule for owning a console has already been satisfied for me with zelda, mario, splatoon, disgaea and xenoblade all in the first fucking year of this thing, anything that comes after is an amazing extra that I will enjoy the living fuck of, if it gets cool third party games like the rabbits game of ubisoft it's great but I can TOTALLY live without shit like destiny or anthem, those are part of that shitty bit of the industry that thrives on pre order bonuses, on disc dlc, extensive lock out features meant to lure you in, I want nothing to do with that shit, I just want to put the cartridge in and play at home or outside without having to worry about software update, hardware update or other trash, just like I did when I was a kid on my NES console, thanks.

>>380868050

Yeah. rather have some good choices to pick from than a massive library full of shilling titles

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Switch will be most successful nintendo console yet screen cap me aniki

Dunno, the device is mobile and Nintendo has a great track record with handhelds. They are marketing it better than the Wii U, now they just need to push 3rd party support.

>>380866575
>3DS
>Underpowered hardware
>Never had AAA third party
>Still supported

Who knows.

>>380868532
I want wave race back.

I think it will definitely do better than the Wii U, how much better I'm not sure.

>>380866575

No. It hit the ground much faster than Wii U. If they had Smash for Switch ready to go it'd be on par with GameCube.

I'm thinking S4S will just be the WiiU game with all/heavily discounted DLC. That or Melee.

>>380868050
> Five game rule.Low ass fucking standards.
I need 20 bad ass games before I even consider buying a discounted console.

>>380869027
Enjoy being the slowest kid in class forever and unpopular grandpa

>>380868963
DLC is going to be a massive pain to get discounted. It's really easy to get Cloud in when you can tell SE that they'll get $2 from every character sale. When you discount it or include it in the game it becomes difficult.

>>380866575
It's going to sell more in one year than Wii U did in its entire lifespan.

>>380866575
I think it wont fail as much as the Wii U given that they already doubled their projected sales for the end of the fiscal year twice, but that isn't hard to accomplish for a Nintendo handheld.

All they have to do is throw a bunch of games on it, let the 3DS slowly die out and focus 100% on the Switch. Don't announce a second separate hardware to support like a 4DS or whatever.

>>380869027
>bad ass

Go away

Well it has no 3rd party support or games yet

No. It has a streamline of extremely good 1st party games in just the first year on market, and that is going to build userbase fast. 3rd party developers will eventually follow, you can't really ignore money that's easy to pick up
and having in mind that nintendo is planning to move on to the Switch model of having both portable and home console in one, also remembering the sales of 3DS, this thing will be full of games, maybe technologically behind X1X and PS4P but what gives

>>380866575
No because the Switch is clearly defined as its own console and its being heavily advertised unlike the WiiU

>>380866575
It gets mainline Pokémon next year, which is a free pass to becoming failure-proof. But in this case it looks like it's going to be successful regardlessly and that Pokémon will just make it blow up even further.

>>380866575
Probably not, but it will just be another Wii U with a larger userbase.

>>380869027
So I'm guessing you've bought nothing this past generation?

>>380866575

It's out of stock everywhere. Don't be stupid.

>>380869542
probably not

>>380866575
>le switch is underpowered meme
Stop this

>>380869903
>3rd party developers will eventually follow
No they wont.

> there's no third party support!
> ignores binding of isaac, cavestory, rocket league, Fast Rqcing, skyrim

What did they mean by this?

>>380866575
I think the hardware is prone to failure just like all the other launch failures. I'm saying this about ALL consoles first generation systems: Sony Nintendo, and Microsoft have crappy first generation hardware since the GameCube. The launch PS3 was amazing, but a ticking time bomb until it finally conked out taking full backwards compatibility with it. Launch 360 was shit and prone to 30% failure. 3DS had hinge problems and self-scratching issues.

I want a Switch, but I'm not spending all that money on a crappy, tablet with over-priced accessories. I'll get one whenever the games I want are actually out, a revision has been made, and the accessories aren't stupid expensive.

>>380870306
>meme
The thing is a literal piece of shit when it comes to specs and the OS.

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>>380866575
are you kidding?
I don't own a nintendo console since the gamecube and it's fucking obvious it will be hugely successful
Incredible launch title, incredible lineup, both portability and tv hookup functionality, still gimmicky but not as much as the wii so regular gamers won't be alienated in profit of casuals, and most people don't care about graphics.
I wouldn't be surprised if it beats the wii sales in the long run

>>380870407
If you say so.

>>380866575
Nope. Nintendo first party support, a few 3rd party games sprinkled in, and indies will carry it. It may not be the most successful console ever but it's not going to fail.

>>380866575
3rd party is 100% kill
all that remains is WAHOO MAN and spinoff shovelware with the occassional 6/10 game because modern Nintendo doesn't give a fuck.

It might sell better than the Wii U in the long run, but I think it won't even do 3DS numbers.
I sure as fuck will never buy a Switch, because the entire concept is ass pulled.

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>>380866575
I hope to be honest, I really hate Nintendo and his userbase, that's the only reason I want them to fail. It's sad because the new Mario game looks fun

Is the build quality still shit? I remember all those retards buying the first gen and it was aweful

>>380868050
>mainline monster hunter
LOL! Not anymore, sweetie.

>>380866575
Shin megami. New wwe game. Temco stuff. Indy stuff. Sonic.

>>380866575
the wiiu failed because it didn't have zelda and the 3d mario on it was shit and not like any other

>>380870470
>regular gamers won't be alienated in profit of casuals
THe entire platform is 95% casual shit games that are extremely accessible. What the fuck are you talking about.

>>380870580
Yes, it's still 0.03cent Chink trash plastic.
Wait for the *NEW* New Nintendo Switch Lite XL revision

>>380866575
It will be another mediocre Nintendo console. Fanboys will claim its the best thing ever just like they did the Wii U, casuals will take it off the dusty shelf once and a while to play the next overhyped release, and sensible people will avoid and play all the other games not coming to the platform.

>>380870316

Thing is, unlike /v/, third party developers aren't autistic console warriors. They go where the money is. And right now smart money is betting on the Switch, a fact that will be solidified after the holiday sales are released. Hell, the Switch doesn't even suffer the development pains of completely different architecture like the Wii did, and that console still got lots of third party support.

But /v/ will probably stay in denial about the Switch's success until Christmas. After that, there will still be desperate Sony ponies making "The Switch will fail any day now!" threads, which will provide many keks for the rest of /v/

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>>380866575
No. Because:

POKEMON
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>>380870756
Let's be real, the Wii U flopped because it was a stupid idea from start to finish. The name Wii U was enough to make people think it was just an addon. That's why you either go with a new name entirely, or go by numerical values.

>>380871097
>And right now smart money is betting on the Switch
They have been missing out on the majority of releases.
The Switch is being cut out due to hardware limitations, and moving forward, this will be more and more common.

If developers were on board, we would have seen a lot more at E3. Ubisoft, once again just like the Wii U, is the main supporter.

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A system with mainline Pokemon has not flopped.

Gb/BBC

GBA

DS

3DS

Both ds and GB/GBC sold over 100 million and GBA 80 million

3ds is at 65 million. With new 2ds xl will close near 75 million

Pokemon carried the 3ds, GBA and GB/GBC

>>380871524
>With new 2ds xl will close near 75 million
Where are you getting this?
Isn't the PS4 on track to outsell the 3DS line pretty soon?

>>380866575
It's the strongest portable console ever, what the fuck are you talking about? Once this shit gets Pokemon it'll be game over for any competition.

>>380871335

>First year

And already Ubisoft, Bethesda, and EA are on board

Like I said, once the holiday sales numbers are released, third party developers will follow

>>380869027
Woah, so you haven't played anything since PS2?

>>380871726
Recall that all those companies also supported the Wii U, except Bethesda, which was paid out by a Nintendo collab for Skyrim.

>>380871591
PS4 is at 60 million and slowing down, the 3DS is currently sitting at 66 million. There is a very slim chance that it'll catch up this year, and the 3DS could easily coast its way to 75 million in the next two or three years.

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>>380871726
Hope you're ready for more of this

>>380866575
I don't think it will. At least not as the WiiU the way you described. They seem to have the following things in order this time:

> Better naming
> Better marketing
> Better target audience show in marketing
> Better social outreach
> Listening to fans for once
> Taking advantage of their portable business
> Some third party, as opposed to none

Considering they had the greatest launch in their history, I say that the marketing at least worked this time. The problem is the games. They seem to have that better planned out as well, with at least one game planned for every month for the rest of 2017 (which is not even one whole year for the Switch). The type of games is also important. Having a mainline full Pokemon game on the Switch, is actually pretty huge. That alone is going to sell 20 million Switches imo.

>>380871591
3ds is at 65 million by match 31st 2017 was reported by nintendo

Nintendo projected 3ds to sell 6 million this fiscal year.

So it definitely will be close to 75 million by the end of it's life time.

Ps4 will easily cross 3ds. 3ds released early 2011 and ps4 released late 2013.

Not question of if but when.

>>380872050
Slowing down where?
The 3DS has also been on the market several years longer with triple the iterations.

I don't see how a mediocre revision no one wants is going to sell 10+ million.

>has pokemon and splat 2 double whammy
>people really think it will fail
Lol?

>>380872160
reminder a new, cheaper 3DS revision and Pokemon US UM is coming out, so I won't underestimate the 3DS

>>380866575

>>new console comes out
>>it has a very underpowered hardware
>>because of this many third part developers try to stay away from
>>consoles is supported by only first party games

All this applies to the Wii as well. Your argument is invalid.

>>380870210
They've upped production to 18 million for its first year, and the Wii U only sold 13 total. It unironically is very likely to.

>>380869027

Hi Randy Pitchford.

>>380869027
Like battleborn? 20 BADASS heroes

>>380872241
They've always reported sold through numbers because they were hitting their goals, then last quarter they reported shipped numbers for the first time. Only last week did they actually reach their 60 million projection.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_3DS_sales
3DS is still selling very well, even without a revision it would reach 75 million in a few years at the latest.

>>380870069
I wouldn't be so sure of that. Pokémon has been pushing the portable line along since the late 1990s, but the 3DS hasn't only sold half of what the DS sold and hasn't even reached GBA numbers.

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>mfw I was about to buy a switch because MonHun 5 is surely going to be on it
>mfw no other reason to buy this console
>mfw a new glorious-looking MonHun 5 is announced at E3
>mffw it's on everything but Nintendo

>>380871873

>EA
Releasing a new Fifa on the Switch on the same date as the other consoles and PC instead of just a late PS3/360 port

>Ubisoft
Releasing an exclusive game featuring iconic Mario characters instead of a zombie game developed by their B-team

>Bethesda
Portable Skyrim

And this isn't even counting Japanese third party or the fact that the Switch's first year blows the Wii U's out of the water

>>380870336
in that sense, the Wii U had better third party support

>>380872626
The 3DS has still sold 65 million. The Switch would have done quite well if it reaches that.

>>380872626
And yet the 3DS is the best selling gaming device this gen. Never underestimate Pokemon, especially with the significant power boost the switch will provide

Not really, because nintendo was launching games for it from the start.
Instead of doing the Wii U thing and taking like 2 or 4 years to get it going.

meme nintendo$$ dream incoming
>they find a way to make that vr headset in which you slide a switch work(overcoming res problems)
>microsoft and nintendo cut a deal in which the switch vr is compatible with xbox
>Metroid Prime 4 as flagship vr game
would print money

>>380869027
How's your summer going? Anything new happening at redit?

>>380872805
In its first year? I don't know what indieshit the Wii U got, so I'm really asking.

>>380872114
if wii u sold well enough it would get more multiplats
it's simple, developing for technologically different and inferior hardware is more costly, but if the renevue can cover that, they will do it

>>380866575
it has already succeeded you dumb fucking idiot.

>>380866575
Not really. Nintendo is the Apple of video games, meaning their absolutely retarded drone fanbase will lap up anything they shit out and ask for seconds.

>>380870560
>pretending this hard that you aren't part of another fan base

>>380872908
are you sure?
that sound like a weird not that great of an idea....

>>380868050
>mainline monster hunter
hahahahahahahaha

>>380873220
hahahAHAHAHAH

>>380869778

>No 3rd party support

Not many games yet, absolutely true, but Fifa is coming, and Ubisoft looks eager to suck that Nintendo dick. (That Rabbids x Mario game could actually be really good if it ends up being somewhat challenging. I fucking love Xcom)


The console had an extremely strong start, and is still hard as hell to find, nearly 4 months after launch. When the holidays hit, it's going to have

>BOTW
>Odyssey
>Splatoon 2

All three a big system sellers (Splatoon 2 less so in the states, but it's a huge title in Japan).

After that, its got a lot of fun smaller titles on the way. Glad I'm not a parent with a kid wanting one, because I'd shoot myself if I had to find a Switch right now, more so if I had to do it in the shitstorm that is holiday shopping.

>>380872859
>>380872884
Partly because the 3DS is cheap, and dare I say it, has increased in popularity due to homebrew. The Nintendo Switch will never see portable-like numbers until a price drop. Remember how the 3DS was nearly dead in the water in the first year because it was that expensive?

Until Switch gets a major price drop, there will be no Pokémon and no handheld level sales.

>>380872904
Nah, that's a bad thing. The GameCube made the mistake of blowing its load in the first year (lots of first parties, over 100 third parties) and then had a massive drought that the system never recovered from.

Switch seems to be a hot item ans there's no sign of it slowing down like Wii U did a month after its release. Ordinarily I'd say a lack of third party games means failure, but Nintendo seems to be consistently pumping out games each month so it may be able to survive on that. So far Kimishima's Nintendo seems way more successful than Iwata's.

>>380873510
The Switch is already selling well. Its hybrid nature means it doesn't have to be cheap to get the sales, pokemon just cements it.

>>380873170
the most interesting consequence would be that VR goes mainstream, as the extra headset wouldn't need (much)more hardware and can thus be cheap. Metroid prime is the perfect franchise to exhibit VR and Microsoft doesn't have a VR headset yet and seems cordial to nintendo. it would be a completely symbiotic relationship.
It
>introduces novel and appealing idea(like the wii
>it expands the market(xbox players)
>it is a blue ocean strategy(no competition with xbox)
>backed by strong title(like how effective BoTW was for the Switch)

>>380873271
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAAHAHHAAHAHAH

>>380869027
go away randy

3ds 2013 was so so good

Animal crossing

Smash bros

X and y

Price drop

2019 switch will be something similer I hope

>>380872963
2012 games:
Assassin's Creed III
Batman: Arkham City Armored Edition
Call of Duty: Black Ops II
FIFA Soccer 13
Just Dance 4
Madden NFL 13
Rabbids Land
Scribblenauts Unlimited
Darksiders II
Disney Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two
Mass Effect 3: Special Edition
NBA 2K13
Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge
Skylanders: Giants
Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed
Tekken Tag Tournament 2: Wii U Edition
Transformers Prime: The Game
Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper
ZombiU
007 Legends

>>380870632
>>380873220
>people are this butthurt over the new game not being mainline

There's a reason they weren't allowed to call it MH5. You can, and probably will, spout that it's mainline all you want but you'll all be BTFO when Switch is getting MH5 announced next year lol

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>>380874264
>but you'll all be BTFO when Switch is getting MH5 announced next year lol

Ah yes, the horribly graphically degraded version because the Switch lacks power to run it.

>>380874423
Are you implying World is anything to brag about visually..?

>>380874423
Nigga, I saw what mh world looks like.

>>380866575
if you have a pc or ps4 as well the switch is pure kino

Super Mario Odyssey is drumming up a lot of hype right now, I cn see normalfags buying a switch just for that.

That's what Wii U was missing really, a killer app that had the whole internet talking.

>>380874578
>>380874616
MH world sure as shit looks better than the previous titles and the fact that it won't be for Switch is just blatantly because it lacks the power to run it.

The devs don't want to downgrade their game for everyone just because a single mainline console lacks power.

WHY ARE THERE NONE TO BUY

Everywhere is "SOLD OUT"

Holy shit nigga I need a Switch for Splatoon 2

>>380874825
I'm laughing that you actually think the Switch couldn't handle those ps2 tier graphics

>>380874423
I'll give you that World definitely looks better than the 3DS re-make switch is getting but come on, compared to other titles on all platforms World is releasing on it looks like ass.

Very much doubt a from the ground up Switch title would look that much worse.

>>380874423
So???
It'll still sell 3x as many copies as world since Japs don't buy console games

>>380872160
PS4 has the advantage of taking away most people who bought a 360 last gen on top of their normal consumerbase

>>380874912
>It'll sell 3x as many copies as world
???
Nigga are you seriously unaware that World IS MonHun 5? They've already made this clear

>>380874825
>MH:World looks better than a 3DS game

Woopdie-fucking-doo

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>>380873601
>he thinks that the Switch's first year sales are indicative of its lifespan

>>380875065
No, you're right, predictions based on the available data is stupid. You're so wise, anon.

>>380875016
Lmao, MH5 would have been much bigger news. If it is 5, they would have called it 5.

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>>380866575
They might not just because of the mid-gen hardware refresh stupidity going on

>expensive new consoles that are the same as 2013 consoles but more powerful
>hardware won't be used by devs because the user base is small compared to the original xbone/ps4
>$500 USD for more particle effects and muh 4K

The Switch is underpowered but it's a NEW console

>>380875065
What other indicator is there..?

>>380866575

We still waiting MKV and MP3 support, every tablet in 201X should have multimedia

We still waiting new releases with 64 GB or more

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>It's still sold out to date, you can't find one for MSRP anywhere (not counting pre-ordering bundles lol)
>sells the entire shipment within hours every single week in Japan
>Splatoon 2 is still a month away, Splatoon 1 was the second best selling console game in Japan between the PS3 and Wii U (only behind FFXIII), and handheld games frequently sell 3x+ as many copies as their console counterparts
>a mainline pokemon is also on the way (though a bit far off

This will be Nintendo's best selling hardware in Japan since the GBA.
Worldwide I think it'll do Wii ish numbers. They're literally announcing every single thing people are asking for at this point. They struck gold with the thing.

>>380875204
Sorry, pal. They said that MonHun world is differently named as to not scare off new players, making them think they should have played the previous games.

>>380869027
>super subtle battleborn post
>just baits everyone anyways

Sad!

>>380875016
I know World is MH5
I'm telling you that the next new Monster Hunter (not XX) that they release will almost certainly be Switch exclusive (or MAYBE Switch and PS4), and it'll sell 3 million units in Japan, whereas World will struggle to hit a million there.

>>380874825
>The devs don't want to downgrade their game for everyone
>Then everyone is agreed? We are DELIBERATELY skipping out on 3 million in sales because we can't be bothered to downscale a few textures and model details?
>Alright great, see y'all at the next meeting

>>380875480
It's not 5. You mad?

>>380875480
That still leaves them free to call a hypothetical Switch MH "Monster Hunter 5" if it's targeted towards the core fanbase instead of casuals/western players like World is.

The wiiu exclusive library is more than enough to supplement everything we've seen at e3 and this is the beginning.

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>Provide a well reasoned critical analysis of the Switch
>Get called a Sonybro shitposter

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>>380875065
You're just going to keep moving the goalposts
>he thinks the switch's launch sales are an indicator
>he thinks the switch's month 1 sales are an indicator
>he thinks the switch's month 2 sales are an indicator
>he thinks the switch's year 1 sales are an indicator
>he thinks the switch's year 2 sales are an indicator

I hope you're ready to munch on those crow dicks.

>>380875480
Off course they're going to say that. Do you think they want people who would disregard a spinoff not to buy it?

You are just an example of their PR working its magic.

Fact is, Monster Hnter 5 would be huge new for the franchise and the system it will eventually release on. They actively chose not to call this five, and yeas, it probably is because they want new people to play it. But saying it IS five, when it obviously isn't is just retarded.

>>380874825
Really? MT frameworks is a god tier engine, and there are already better, much better looking game on switch. Hell mario and rabbids outclass PS3 world by leagues and bounds

Remember when Strange Journey was SMT IV but the devs later admitted they didn't want to put the 4 in the title because they weren't sure how well it would do not being in Tokyo?
Remember when SMT IV came out later?

That'll be World due to the changes being made along with not being on handheld. Yea, it's Monster Hunter 5 for now. Doesn't mean they won't backtrack and release MH5 later anyway.

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>>380875827
>>380875828
>>380875668
>>380875646
>>380875567
>>380875557

I think it's beyond failure now thanks to Pokemon.
In fact, if Nintendo play their cards right, they can make it appeal to an even wider audience by slapping on the open world meme like they did with BoTW.

I'd say wait and see, but even the shittiest Pokemon games have sold gangbusters so I don't think quality is a factor.

Also, if they end up releasing an Animal Crossing for it, and with Splatoon 2 on the way, they'd basically turn the entirety of Japan into their slaves.

>>380875480
I really don understand this.

Will they suddenly jump to MonHun6 after this, then? Or what the fuck are you trying to say?

It's not numbered 5, so they're obviously goi g to release a MonHun5 at some point in the future.

>>380875995
>Literally the opposite happening

>>380875995
I own a powerful PC (and a PS4, but I'm getting the best version not the shitty PS4 version), so I can play World.
I'm just telling you a fact. There is another Monster Hunter in production right now. It will either be called Monster Hunter 5, Monster Hunter World portable, or Monster Hunter ______ (new title). It will release as an exclusive to Nintendo Switch, being revealed at either TGS this year or a Nintendo Direct sometime next year, a Japan only game until localization gets confirmed later.

And it will sell like hotcakes in Japan.

>>380876129
They're simply going to continue the new way of naming. No more numbered entries. This is what they implied.

>>380876281
I think that's bullshit and just Capcom hedging themselves for if World flops.

>>380875995
>people stating fact about the name "Monster Hunter 5" still being available since they didn't use it for World
>butthurt
I mean, maybe those discussing are fags who just got their anus destroyed, but the MH discussion seems pretty civil.

>>380875995
Does that image make a spinoff game that's barely going to sell 1million copies a mainline game that would sell consoles? I have no foot in this race, but you are still wrong....and mad....and a little bitch.

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>>380876281
>They're simply going to continue the new way of naming. No more numbered entries. This is what they implied.
Yea, no.
That's what the west likes to do, but that's not what Japan likes to do.
If a series follows a numbered pattern they like to see every sequel be numbered.
See; Dragon Quest 11 and Final Fantasy 15.
Japan doesn't care how high the numbers go.

>>380876549
To be fair, it's exactly what Mario did

>>380876281
My god you are a fucking retard. You have no idea how much money they lost by not naming it 5.

>>380876281
>people actually believe this after having several non-numbered entries throughout the series

I thought the Wii U had a reasonable library. I bought just as many games for it as I did for PC or PS4 during the same time frame. Their biggest problem was marketing, which should be more clear with how the Switch is doing well selling Wii U games to people who would claim the Wii U was a bad console. Even /v/ is begging for a Smash 4 port instead of a proper sequel.

I would also prefer if Nintendo would just make a more powerful console. I don't see how it could fail if they could get solid third party support while also being one of the few platforms with a reasonable number of exclusive games.

>>380876262
It'll easily triple World's worldwide sales.

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>>380876482
>>380876480
>>380876216

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>>380868050
This. As long as it gets Japanese games I couldn't care less about Western third party support. Western games suck ass nowadays.

>>380874164
Rip 3rd party on Switch. Looking at that list, it looks like Nintendo really shit its pants on that one.

>>380876638
Nintendo was basically the only dev / publisher to drop the numbered naming convention early on because they wanted to use fancier titles than a number next to the franchise name.

>>380876638
...when they made spinoff's

>>380876817
Literally all they have to do to get third party support is sell a lot of consoles, which they seem well in their way to doing anyhow

>>380874423
I'll just stream it through rainway. That way I will have both Monster Hunter games on it, not just one.

>>380876638
Super Mario World had Super Mario Bros 4 as a subtitle in Japan. From that point on, it would've been meaningless to still call the games that way since Luigi stopped being playable until NSMB, and for that game series they slapped "New" on top of the original title since it had been a long time since World.

>>380876931
World, Galaxy, Sunshine, and Odyssey are not spinoffs

>>380876750
The people that want Smash 4 Deluxe can fuck off.
They're going to get their wish though. Nintendo subtly responded letting people know how much Smash 4 Deluxe is wanted, so it'll probably end up being one of the summer 2018 games for the dry season.

I'd rather Bamco and the Nintendo studios just get hard at work for Smash 5 honestly, before Sakurai decides he's actually not done with the series once again so we can MAYBE get an actual competitive Smash.

>>380876817
http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Wii_U_games
if you're interested in seeing other years

>>380866575
>fifa 18 on switch is turning out (no frostbite engine)
All FIFA games since the sixth generation gave been the exact same, just roster changes. The engine doesnt affect a soccer sim the way it would affect a real videogame.

>>380866575
Doa

Nintendo is the new sega

Only thing that saved them is polemin go and that shit no one talks about anymore

Shiggy dies this year and nintendo goes 3rd party. Reggie is replaced by a ubisoft employee.

Idiots didnt see how botw was fucking ubisoft ass creed the game....

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>>380872723
>Is butthurt he can't afford a $300 Monster Hunter Machine
>Acts like it's only worthwhile game.
>Afraid to branch out.

Fucking loser.

>>380877049
Depends on how they do the DX port imo. If they throw all of the 3DS content and WiiU content on one cartridge for Switch I'll buy it in a heartbeat.

I mean, we know we're bound to get Smash 5 at some point anyway, and 4 has soooo many good 3rd part characters that most likely won't return for the next game.

Would be nice to play the 3DS content with functioning controls. There's some great stages on the 3DS IMO.

>>380877045
They all function completely differenty from any and every previous game.

>>380877045
Can someone make a Mario timeline? I seriously have no idea which games are canon..

Is the 2D and 3D games considered separate mainline titles or what..?

Nintendo is showing a lot more confidence with this system than others, is listening to what fans want and is putting in their catalog, all their cards on the table (Pokemon, Metroid Prime, No More Heroes, BotW, Mario Odyssey, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and everything else). I expect to see them going to other games on that checklist later down the road, in addition to a new Animal Crossing, Smash and more.

3rd party developers won't mind working with less spectacular specs, anywhere near as much as shitty motion controls or a touch pad, so they're going to do better there once more games start coming out.

Also people complain about the upgraded ports of games from the WiiU, but it's a smart move and I like it. So many people skipped over that console and not only do they get a chance to see its better titles, they also are adding more content to said games.

I'm beyond happy with my purchase of a Switch already. And this is coming from somebody who's least favorite console is the Wii and wasn't a fan of the WiiU.

>>380877608
And? Do you believe that the Mario series ended at three or something? Are you actually retarded?

>>380877383
>4 has soooo many good 3rd part characters that most likely won't return for the next game
Are you sure? Sonic is a mainstay of the series, Megaman was received very warmly and I don't see Capcom yanking him away since they're not interested in doing anything with him anyway, Pac-man is a shoe-in as long as Namco is still the developer (and since then they've even collaborated more with Nintendo by developing Pokken). Maybe Cloud and Bayonetta, but Square Enix has been showing lots of support for the Switch and Bayonetta is owned by Sega just like Sonic, and they don't seem that protective of their characters.

>>380866575
Well considering it's still selling out constantly despite Nintendo already increasing production even 3 months in.. no

Well like, the 300 dollar price tag actualy gives you something for it, a portable device with built in various multiplayer options.

There's a visible trade-off for the lack of power, that should appeal to buyers and developers.

The Wii U's trade off for high price tag but low power was... a tablet controller. It's a much much less valuable proposition.

And that is not getting into all architecture and engine problems the Wii U had to add obstacles to the development.

Could it fail? Of course. It's uphill all the way. But I do think it has a fighting chance the Wii U never had.

>>380866575
Portability

It doesn't have the great third party support at Launch because most third parties felt burned after the Wii U and weren't willing to dip their toes in the water as easily as before

The Switch being seen as a success is probably pushing other companies now to actually start working on porting games to it.

>>380877383
>and 4 has soooo many good 3rd part characters that most likely won't return for the next game.

I would think Nintendo would need to reacquire approval even for a port on a new platform since it would be considered a new product. I think I remember there were issues with putting Diddy Kong Racing on virtual console because it had Rare characters in it.

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who
>PlayedZeldaAndMK8OnFriend'sWiiUAndSoAreUnswayedByLiesAboutHowZeldaIsWorthBuyingAMachineFor
here?

zelda was decent, nowhere near as astronomically good as people act like it is. MK8 is just the same old mario kart. pokken is garbage. musou games are garbage. ARMS looks decent, but so did For Honor and look how that turned out. rabbids is simplified and casualized xcom for kids. yoshi and kirby will be unchallenging and not worth the price tag.

the only worthwhile games on the horizon are splatoon 2, mario, and xeno 2 if you're into that combat i personally fucking hate it

the switch is going the way of the wii u already. throwing up big middle fingers at third party devs and building underpowered machines that can't handle multiplats is going to bite nintendo in the ass AGAIN.

>>380877775
Other than the event games (kart, soccer, tennis, party, etc.) all the console games are in order but America's 2 and maybe galaxy with their time warp shit. America's 2 is a dream that could have happened at any time. The game boy games are chronologicaly last when Mario is king of his own land and failed to wedd the princess. The saga game boy games are prequel's I believe.

>>380876750
I think the only problem with wanting a powerful Nintendo console is that it would have been really difficult to follow up the Wii U with that. Releasing a new expensive console to compete with PS4/Xbone that have already built solid libraries would be a really hard sell, even more so with the X and Pro existing.

I don't think Nintendo could have afforded to wait out the entirety of this generation before releasing a new console, especially with 3DS starting to peak. Personally, from what I've seen with the Switch sales, I don't seem them having made that bad of a choice.

>>380868863
I had to emulate blue storm not too long ago
Shits fun

>>380878956
>the switch is going the way of the wii u already.
uhhuh, whatever you say
It's still sold out to date with well loved games on the way.

>>380878956
Damn, only three games worth buying for in the first year, how will the Switch ever survive

>>380878956
I like you anon, I'm the same way except I skipped the Wii U completely.

>>380878115
>There's a visible trade-off for the lack of power, that should appeal to buyers and developers.
I don't think I've ever seen a sentence that better sums up the apparent success of the Switch versus the utter failure of the Wii U.

I had no intention of buying a Wii U until I was able to find it dirt cheap, meanwhile I was really excited for Switch because I'd always think of it as being a really powerful handheld.

>>380878956
are you autistic?

>>380877971
What the fuck does that have to do with ending the series? 1-4 were all similar, even 2. They took a new direction with 64 because they literally had to. What were they supposed to do, name Mario 64 super mario bros 5? It was a spinoff and it created it's own series that were all named differently except for galaxy 2.

>>380878956
The only argument agaisnt that is that the Switch is actually selling more than well, unlike the WiiU ever did.

>>380877775
Mario is like Popeye, there is no canon.
Wosley was right, american gamers question EVERYTHING.

>>380878956
I might be crazy but four must have titles in the first year sounds great. Ps4 had like one.

>>380872796
>Fifa game without the same features, support, or roster updates. Reminder Wii U got Need for Speed

>A paid Nintendo ventures ala Wii U

>Skyrim is old and shit, and no one wants it.

>>380879110
I actually do agree with you that releasing a powerful console at this time would have been a bad idea when the competition are already established. I like the general concept of a powerful Nintendo console, but you are probably right they would not have been able to break back in mid-generation without some type of unique selling point.

>>380879852
>must have
The Switch doesnt have a single must have exclusive.

>>380879918
>no one wants skyrim
Yet they made a HD remaster, is making a VR version AND a Switch version..

Sure doesn't seem like no one wants it.

>>380866575
It has already succeded. It's been out for 3 months and they're still sold out every time they are back in stock. It already has two smash hit games with a big game again this month, and another one next month. Plus Mario is looking to be another smash hit. And when Prime 4 and Pokemon for the Switch hit this console will probably outperform the OG Wii.

>>380879724
There is an order.
>Mario and luigi were babies
>Mario and luigi were adults

>>380880118
Not yet. It will have more than one in its first year though.

>>380880118
botw

>wiiu
discontinued my man.

>>380866575
OP have you been living under a rock? The Switch is a huge success

>>380880118
What the fuck is a must have game? Uncharted?

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>>380880214
You speak the truth anon and it's just the beginning.

>>380880091
One weird theory I have is that whenever this generation of core consoles starts to close, they'd release a better form factor for Switch and market that as a handheld, and then start fresh with a powerful console when Sony and Microsoft unveil their next big thing.

Though if Switch ends up being a crazy success, I doubt they'd do much more than a safer Switch sequel.

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>>380876798
Then why is The Witcher 3 the best game ever made Western? Really makes you think.

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>>380880326
>multiplats are exclusives when nintendo does it! twilight princess was a gamecube exclusive!

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I don't want to spend 300bux on an underpowered chink tablet, but I can admit that Nintendo has some good stuff announced.

I wish they'd just go software-only.

>>380880572
I love these posts mostly because of how obviously the rest of the world treats botw as a Switch exclusive. You keep doing you, though.

>>380880813
You poor?

>>380880901
Spin it however you want, the game was also released on Wii U

>>380880901
so no answer to the fact that BOTW is a multiplat, then? because that's what it is, anon, a fact, regardless of how you envision the rest of the world sees it.

>>380880572
I'd say it's a bit too late to talk about Breath of the wild now, that game has clearly sold a large chunk of casuals on the console.

>>380881051
I make 80k yearly. I just don't like the idea of further encouraging Nintendo to continue their gimmick instead of making a proper, quality console. I think I'll just wait for Cemu ports.

>>380880572
There is literally no other console in production and on sale at official retail channels that runs BOTW. It's an exclusive.

>>380881279
>proper quality console
The last proper quality console was the ps2.

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Sure. It's already failing spectacularly at being U.

>>380866575
On the contrary, it looks like it's going to stay strong for a whole bunch of years. Especially if Nintendo decides to make incremental hardware upgrades to the Switch, PS4Pro/XboneX style.

>>380880483
>Poland
>Western

It's not that underpowered when you compare it to the XBONE and PS4. It's like changing settings from high to medium.

I don't think having a slightly less powerful console is that bad anyways, it gives less focus on graphics meaning they can focus more on other parts of the games such as gameplay and story.

What makes or breaks a console is simply software though. Does it have games? Are those games fun? Is there a variety? Obviously everyone is going to prefer different games, but so far the switch seems to be promising a small but varied catalog of games that excel in their focused areas. They also are trying to change up formulas, look at ARMS/Splatoon, they are taking a genre and twisting it instead of just adding on or staying the same. They feel fresh.

>>380881779
>PS2
No, that was the first puice of shit who brought normalfags and casuals en masse to vidya. The last proper console was maybe the DreamCast, the Saturn or the N64.

>>380880483
It's shit.

>>380868050
>mainline monster hunter
Let it go nintenbro...

>>380866575
>mainline Pokemon
I doubt it.

>>380874423
>m-muh graphics

>>380884967
they confirmed it at E3, literally had a guy from the pokemon company say that next yera there will be a mainline pokemon rpg, no other details, no title, nothing

>>380875369
>switch has a touchscreen and is portable
>must be tablet, hurr

>>380885358
Yes, that's my point. It's very unlikely to fail with a mainline Pokemon. As for the rest, empty hype is where it's at. Look at the prime 4 announcement, 1.5 million views for a fucking title card.

>>380884795
It's already been announced, loser.

>>380884967
Uhhh, they literally had the creator say "mainline pokemon game" in an interview.

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>>380885457
it's literally a tablet with tablet hardware, attachable controllers, way less usability and worse battery life

>>380885680
>do you think that the switch is going to fail ?
I was answering the OP.

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>>380885793
whom are you trying to convince haha

>>380885793
apparently now there is special "tablet hardware"
My laptop has a touchscreen and msd-support. Is it now magically a tablet?

>>380885793
...With great games. You forgot to mention the part about where its just a tablet that has great games because it's a video game console, not some kindle bookathon with no games.

As long as I get the games I want out of it, then I couldn't care less if it fails overall.

>>380886364
you running a tegra x1?

>>380885793
oh, and video games

>>380886703
How many tablets run a Tegra X1?

Get back to me in a couple years , its way too soon to tell.

>>380886703
nah. I built it more or less myself.
I basically slapped the screen of a convertible onto some tower-hardware. It's not much of a beauty, but it's in it's essence a portable tower pc

>>380887334
sounds awful

All I know is that I have zero interest in it. It's basically just going to be another round of the same 10 or so Nintendo games they've been making since Gamecube. Instead of improving graphics or coming up with innovative new games they've just added an annoying gimmick to their consoles. I actually hope it fails and Nintendo makes third party games for the other two consoles because they do make a couple games I would buy.

>>380887961
that's nice

>>380883487

You still mad about the 150 millions sold?

>>380887961
Let me guess, you never owned a Nintendo console but you'll tell me you have owned multiple, and you stopped playing Nintendo games because someone made fun of you.

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>>380888043
>mfw sonykeks get mad over a fraction of that

>>380888347
I owned a SNES and bought a Gamecube after the next gen came out to play Melee. I stopped buying Nintendo because everything after Gamecube has been shitty.

>>380887961
>All I know is that I have zero interest in it...they do make a couple games I would buy
>le rehash same games!
>hasn't been good since (arbitrary starting point)
>muh graphics
>Nintendo will go third party
>Portability is a gimmick

Shitposts bingo!

>>380888545
>I owned a SNES an
Woah!

>>380887961
>fuck Nintendo but let me play their games!
every time

>>380888576
>>All I know is that I have zero interest in it...they do make a couple games I would buy
I have no interest in buying a console to play 2 games

>>le rehash same games!
well they do, what games are you looking forward to that aren't rehash?

>>hasn't been good since (arbitrary starting point)
It hasn't been good since it stopped being good. How is that arbitrary?

>>muh graphics
Well the games don't look a whole lot better than they did 10 years ago and nothing else has really improved either. The gameplay and controls have actually gotten worse due to the gimmicks they add every console.

>>Nintendo will go third party
Hopefully.

>>Portability is a gimmick
Yep.

>>380888779
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there we go XD

>>380869903
devs don't want to develop an entirely separate game for an underpowered console on top of the games on the other consoles/PC

the games Switch does get will be halfassed

>>380889287
>well they do, what games are you looking forward to that aren't rehash
First tell me what games for the Switch are rehashes

>>380890420
ALL OF THEM BECAUSE I SAY SO HAHAHA

>>380866575
overpowered hardware games are a meme, just see how expensive AAA games are getting to produce, having to push season passes to barely make a profit.

Nintendo is fine, as long as it has good games from japanese developers, and some western indies, it will be alright.

>>380866575
switch is hot trendy new tech and it is going to replace the 3ds in everyones hands.

Switch is going to do the same thing the Wii U did.
Release some mainline Nintendo titles to sucker in retards, then get flooded with nothing.

Nintendo's business model is nostalgia.

>>380890931
That's cool given my last Nintendo system was an N64

>>380888545
But did you buy other consoles? Checkmate.

>>380888043
Im mad at the influx of dudebros, fratboys and casuals the thing brought with GTA3. People who originally picked on others foe "being nerds".

>>380887961
Wait. What? I don't see how its even a gimmick. You're not forced to use the undock system nor are you stuck with motion controllers like the wii or a tablet controller. You get a traditional controller and the console just gives you the option to be able to play portability anytime which is really innovative and appealing compared to other consoles which are pretty much pcs. They don't stand out.