The rapist with a Fallout New Vegas thread? That's a combination

>>380790582
I wish Betsy had gotten her leave within she game's timeline so she could have rocked by Courier's world.

What are some essential mods you guys use every playthrough?

>>380791415
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/40329/?

>>380791415
YUP, WMX, EVE, JSawyer Ultimate Edition
Also all the crash fixes and everything
Also reminder to everyone to ignore the /vg/ fags

>>380791415
NVEC and project memevada

>>380791415
uninstall.exe.
And play fallout 4. Do yourself a favor.

>>380792126
Todd?

>>380790817
>wanting to sleep with a rape victim trying to get over their trauma by hitting on anyone with a vagina
She wouldn't even be a good lay

>>380792126

Todd, get out of here.

>>380791831
HATE /VG/

>>380792194
>le todd may may.
Shit vegas sucks. It's old and it's boring and it's filled with bugs. Fallout 4 is the best fallout game in the franchise whether you like it or not faggot.

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>>380792126
[Perception 8] Hmmm, I wonder who could be behind this post...

>>380792482
Fallout 4 is not a Fallout game

I installed this game and played for about an hour and was really enjoying it. But then I tried to shoot a bug that was sitting under a chair through the gap in the stools and the bullet hit the invisible wall there. I've never uninstalled a game quicker in my life.

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>>380790582
> download XRE Cars!
> download Real Time Settler + Farmer Bob + Wasteland Defense
> download every scrapping, crafting, weapon / armour extending mod ou can get your hands on.
> unlimited companions, recruit any NPC etc. mods

No other game compares to driving around the Mojave in a poorly scripted pickup truck, collecting weapons and junk t convert into homes for my citizens in my wasteland kingdom. FO4 can fuck itself to this level of comfy.

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>>380792482
Whatever you say Todd. How was your kid's graduation?

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any mods for better gunplay?

>>380792482
Hello, todd
Fuck off, todd

>>380792783
Blame Bethesda, it's their assets after all
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/59149/?

>>380792126
I'm 20 hours into FO4 and I've never appreciated NV more. Will Bethesda ever get over their asspain with Obsidian and let them make another game for them?

>>380792783
Download the mesh collisions fix mod. Forget what it's called. There's a mod for basically every bug so redownload and mod it when you need to.

>>380792832
Dues Ex weapon spread, makes it so the gun you have doesn't fucking swing everywhere

>>380792832
http://www.gunetwork.org/t9257-anniversary-release-hh-s-1st-person-animation-pack
the site will requires a login, but i could mirror the pack if you really want me to

>>380792916
Obsidain already told us that they are down to make new fallout, in fact they really want to do it, but they cant start working on it without bethesda's permission.

>>380793132

They did make another fallout, it was called Wasteland 2

>>380792642
>>380792823
>>380792867
For me, New Vegas' story was not interesting and had no character development, the sides quests, are mostly boring, too short, and lack a lot of simple directions to even know how to finish them off; the bugs and glitches make the game for me impossible to play more than 20 minutes at a time without it crashing, even with a good console or computer; the graphics are too low quality even with my computer with the highest settings, and the landscape IS THE WORST PART, IT'S FUCKING BOOOOORRRIIINNNGG!! They should at least make it more "living"; the main attraction to the game is, of course, New Vegas, but because I had a high level Luck character I kept getting kicked out from the Three Main Casinos, and the smaller casinos are too small and depressing to enjoy. Even on the easiest difficulty the game was still challenging (I don't suck at the game and challenging in the annoying way), and had to get Books or Cass with me. And to returned to the landscape, unlime Fallout 3's Washington D.C., I couldn't tell the difference between the Mojave Desert and every other fucking desert in the world. If I wanted to play a Fallout game that was more centered in the original lore and desert-like landscape, I'd play the first two damn games. So in all, I would give this game a 6/10, it's still a fun game, but with it's boring quests, storyline, characters, landscape and heavy amounts of crashes I can't play more than 3 hours at a time and then can only come back to it every 5 days, if anything Fallout 3 was a more interesting, fun, memorable and changing experience, New Vegas just won't have that same feel even if it's " more lore friendly and works like the older games." So if New Vegas interests you, then get it, if you want to play a more lore friendly Fallout game play the first two games, and if you want to play a more fun, beautiful, rememberable and fun-looking landscape to roam around then get Fallout 3 and 4.

I tried to make one of these threads the other day, got 404ed and a warning to go to /vg/. Fucking free do-ers

>>380793201
>taking the hotpockets seriously
i got a 30 day ban for making a columbine joke

>>380793193

>rememberable

It's memorable you dingus

>>380793191
>inXile is now Obsidian

>>380793193
I mean it's really cool and all that you ahve an opinion, but this is a new vegas thread. You dont go to /vg/ and start talking about what game you like more and shit.
I mean, if you liked 4 more - good for you, keep playing it.

>>380793345
Shut up obsidiot

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>>380792482
>play Van Graff quest
>doing the bouncer shift
>get to 4th guy
>tell him I have to pat him down
>"damn I knew this wasn't gonna work!"
>"falloutnv.exe has stopped working"

>>380792916
Probably not. I remember Avellone saying a while back now that they've opened another studio in Montreal, it's likely it'll stay within their own company. That was him just speculating, but I think it has some merit. Modern Obsidian is a shitshow anyway.

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All New Vegas posters will be transformed into Fallout 4 posters.
It is for the good of mankind.

>>380794480
[Intelligence] But Fallout 4 posters are too dumb to breed.

>>380794480
[Speech 100] You're an abortion of science... You need to die...

>>380794480
I can't win. I will join you.

>>380794480
>BUY. DIE. BUY. DIE.

>>380791415
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/61666/?

>>380791415
Fellout, Populated Casinos, and Sprint button

>nv thread used to be fun and have talk about mods and playthroughs
>now it's just a bunch of people spring out about how these threads belong on /vg/
Fucking hell

>>380796005
This happened before, but worse. Things calmed down after a while and the threads became good again.

>>380796005
>that time we did move to /vg/ and it lasted 6 months before traffic stopped dead
I miss /cfog/, but it shows that these threads belong on /v/, if only because of the traffic increase /v/ gets over /vg/.

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Why is NCR elite armor so much better looking and functional than Legion armor? I want my Legion aligned Courier to dress in style and to withstand some actual damage, dammit.
The best Legion armor is pic related and you have to be vilified by the Legion in order to get it.

Does anyone play New Vegas in another dub that isn't English? If so, are there any curiosities about it?
>Spanish dub
>Your brain in OWB has the same voice actor as Benny

>>380796832
Look for a copy of legion will ryse

>>380796832
console commands, nigger.

>>380796832
Just nuke NCR and use console commands to give it to yourself.

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>>380796832
Legion armor is just shit from their previous exploits hastily slapped together by a bunch of war-mongering tribals. I mean look at this shit. Tell me the scrapped power armor he probably got off a midwestern BoS knight he zerg rushed with 4 other dudes out east isn't the raddest shit ever.

>>380797101

That mod is shit.

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>>380792126

>>380797428
>>380797330
I don't like console commands. Never used them never will.

>>380797826
At least spawn it after you nuke NCR so you can feel like you earned it.

>>380796005
i'm actually downloading the gog ultimate version of new vegas. what mods would you deem essential? gonna try to play this for the first time since it's release.

>>380798378
That's a bit more satisfying.

>>380790582
>>/vg/

>>380798632
If you want to keep it vanilla just get YUP, NVSE, NVAC, NVSR and some texture mods
If you want some gameplay changes get stuff like realistic weapon damage, JSawyer Ultimate, animation project, etc. Whatever seems interesting to you

>>380797826
I know we toss this word around a lot and I regret that because it means we don't take it as seriously anymore, so I want you to really take this to heart and think about it and know that I mean it.

You are a fag and you deserve the frustration you feel playing this game

>>380798909
>Whatever seems interesting to you

yes, duh. i was just interested in mods deemed essential. i'll probably play the game vanilla for a few hours any way before i install any mods just to get an idea. thanks for the list. i'll check them out now.

Are there any mods that help the game handle lots of mods? I know about compatability patches and merged patches and NVSE but are there any mods that help?

>>380799386
4GB NV.

>>380792126
[FAILED] C'mon kiddo, we all know New Vegas is the best new age Fallout.

>>380799454
Yeah I've got that too, I used the patcher but I'm not sure if it's helping

>>380799501
how many plugins are you at, my man?

>>380792126

[Barter 70] Shalom fellow merchant.

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Post couriers.
>4/5/5/6/6/7/7
>poorly trained doctor from Baja
>moved to Arizona to get away from the NCR
>fled to the Mojave because of the Legion
>gets shot in the head anyway

>>380799542
Like 75 I think

>>380793536
>not letting him literally BTFO the Van Graffs

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>want to replay New Vegas again for the first time in maybe 2 or 3 years
>PC took a massive shit months ago
>don't own a last gen console anymore
>no disposable income to fix this problem
>been playing through Fallout 4 on ps4 to fill the void to no avail
it hurts bros

>>380799667
Does your game still crash if you look at a shrub the wrong way?

>>380793193
>being mad at someone to the point where you make an essay

>>380800202
Vurt hasn't been giving me any problems, no.

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>>380791831
>>380792482
>>380793193
>>380798824

Am I the only girl that thinks that this stupid general should belong in /vg/? Like fuck, it was cancerous generals like these that /vg/ was made in the first place

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>>380800468
>[

>>380800408
perfect

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Favorite companions?
Pic related is mine.

>>380800408
And fukken savved

>>380800642
>there are people that think that Raul becoming a mechanic is the right choice

>>380800642
he would be the best if it wasn't possible to break his quest-line before you even meet him.

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>walking around camp McCarron
>realize ED-E isn't following me
>look on my local map, EDE is off on like the edge of the map
>go outside, says he's right beneath me
>he's no where to found
Is he in the sewer or just fucking glitched or something?
Also
>walk into freeside
>greeted by a million gunfights and this

>>380800408
Thanks anon.

>>380800835
Depends on my character. I personally prefer it, but that's just because the perk is hugely useful with TWE.

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>>380801026
>using Freeside open

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>>380800408
>the nexus link leads to autism perk

>>380801105
I knew there were problems but I just expected it to corrupt my save or something, not this. This didn't just happen at freeside though so I don't think it's freeside open

>>380800894
That only happened once to me, and it was because the Boomer guy spawned in the wrong cell after doing finishing his quest.

>>380800642
He's got the story, the personality and the skills to make him a GOAT companion.
Now, if his mission wasn't buggy as fuck...

Wasn't there a new trailer for the Frontier at E3? What do you guys think of it?

>>380792812
That's it, I'm learning how to mod NV right now...

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>>380800642
Does anyone actually dislike ED-E, apart from not having Light Step?

>>380801772
The music was comically out of place, but the mod is shaping up to be cool if just for how thoroughly they've fucked with Gamebryo.

>>380792812
Sounds a lot like Mad Max

>>380801859
E-DE is a true pal. Unconditional loyalty, same with Rex. Lily and Raul are the only others who stick by your side no matter what.

>>380801772
Looks neat. Kinda worried they're more focused on the spectacle rather than quests and RPG elements, but it's a free mod that managed to pull off some crazy ass shit, so I'm looking forward to it for that alone. More New Vegas is never a bad thing. Hope Project Brazil finishes up at some point too.

>>380801934
Yeah the shit they've done with gamebryo is pretty insane considering how garbage it is. I hope it turns out well

>>380790817
i wish major knight could have gotten his leave so he could pound the courier's boi pussi

>>380801313
It's an extremely common bug with FSO. Try uninstalling it and see if that fixes it.

>>380802151
Thing is it also happened at Camp McCarran so I don't know if it is FSO. I don't want to uninstall it mid playthrough in case it fucks my save over

>>380802131
Everyone deserves some love.
In the words of a wise man
EVERYBODY LOVES SOMEBODY SOMETIMES

>>380800468
yes

>>380801859
I got a little annoyed by that and that noise he makes, but there's mods to fix both.

>>380802314
Did anyone else discover a singer they now listen to regularly thanks to New Vegas?

>>380790582
>>>/vg/

>>380802518

>>380800408

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>>380802453
>mfw I was watching a movie and heard a song playing that I knew from NV
It was pretty neat

>>380802129
Gamebryo is fine as an engine, it's just Bethesda's fork that's really fucky. Radiant AI was a mistake.

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Recently started replaying New Vegas and I love how the main and side quests follow a natural path at the beginning leading you around to New Vegas itself. Its feels like you are constantly moving forward on your own and to places that need your help while still following your main story path.

>>380802926
Makes you feel a little more cultured inside, doesn't it?

>>380791415
sexout

>>380803074
Exactly. When I first played Fallout NV I was fresh out of 3, and it amazed me how many side quests there were but also how each side quest took me to another location where I would be entrusted with a new mission that still directed me towards my main objective. It really blew me away.
Of course, I hadn't played many RPGs at the time and thus I was much more impressionable back then

>>380802926
I heard Ain't That A Kick In The Head at a restaurant once.

>>380803537
I recorded a CD with New Vegas's soundtrack to play in the car. I got my mother to learn Ain't That a Kick In The Head even if its in a language she doesn't master.

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What's your excuse for not joining the master race?

>>380803708
That's adorable.

>>380796832
Just nuke both, become wild child with the Legion and then get both armors

>>380793110
>gunetwork

Do you have drag's FO4 power armor ports by chance? I can't find those for the life of me.

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What's the best looking power armor and why is it pic related?

>>380804482

Of all the things Fallout 4 did wrong, power armor, was not one of them

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>>380804482
T-51b is sexy af nigga.

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>>380804482
anon, why did you post the wrong armor?
>>380804643
Nobody's arguing against that

>>380799369
For the Enclave

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>>380804482
Please.

>>380804643
you shouldnt have gotten it lvl 1

>>380805038
Thats a pacing issue, not a power armor issue

>>380805098
Okay, what about fusion cores?

>>380805038
they did that to keep people engaged in such a terrible game

>>380804952
>power armor
kys

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>>380799667
>he doesn't go full /tesg/ autism mode
First time trying FCO, might switch back

>>380804952
>wearing fucking black colored and duster coat in 100+ Nevada heat
>not enjoying the comfiness of AC and hydration Power Armor has to offer
What a nigger.

>>380805248
Bethesda keeps fucking with power armor rules
>Fallout 1 and 2: No need for training nor fusion cores; runs indefinitely and any idiot can wear it
>Fallout 3 and New Vegas: Yeah, you need special training to wear one of these now. It works forever, don't worry
>Fallout 4: Nah man, everyone can wear it, from uneducated raiders to lawyers and shit. Just remember to keep it charged with fusion cores or else you'll get stuck!

>>380790582
Nice spoiler

>>380805556
Rangers are made of a tougher paste than BoS shitheads.

>>380804728
>>380804871

i wish they would have kept the fuckhuge pauldrons in FO4

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>>380805421
/tesg/ autism is distasteful. My autism is surgically refined.

>>380805685
that's a dapper chap

>>380805565
>Bethesda
>Fallout 1 and 2

Anon...

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>>380805776
He's dingier most of the time.

>>380805946
You know what I mean. There's an established canon about the functionality of power armor. Then they decide to change it for whatever reason for 3 and Obsidian, trying to keep a certain degree of consistency, bring in the training from 3. And by 4 Bethesda changes their mind again and decide you don't need training anymore but you need fusion cores.
Fuck that. It's obvious they did that only so they could push the power armor at the beginning of the game and then have a "valid" excuse as to why you can't wear it everywhere from now on.
But hey, those 5 minutes sure were epic huh? :DDDD

>>380805776
For you.

>>380806356
Don't you only get PA in Fo1 after the BoS gives it to you? Hell, I'm pretty sure they mention some kind of training when that happens. Fo2 fucked it up with all that sequence breaking bullshit, though.

>>380804163
http://www.gunetwork.org/t13746-fnvrel-bos-reforged-drag-s-bos-overhaul
is this what you were looking for? sorry i havent checked on this thread in a while

>>380790582
someone redpill me on what the whole point of lonesome road was even about.
Ulysses' delivery was too cryptic I couldn't tell if he was with me or against

>>380807087
BEAR AND BULL
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>>380807087
Ulysses' speech was 3edgy5me and I didn't get anything.

i want the next fallout to be in the deep south

>old southern music.
>swamps with mutant crocodiles

whats not to like

>>380807087
you delivered a package that destroyed his home and now BEAR AND BULL BEAR AND BULL

>>380807087
Welcome to Chris Avellone 101.

>>380807301
>basically sunny far harbour/point lookout.

No

>>380807087
Ulysses is literally Avellone's author avatar and stands to rail against the idea of the influential RPG PC in its current incarnation, where you can just go around massively impacting the world. The entire plot serves as a deconstruction of the idea that the effects a PC can cause are so cut, dried, and painfully obvious. It simultaneously explores Avellone's desire to destroy the NCR for the sake of keeping the setting in a continual, vaguely post-apoc hellhole (even though the Tunnelers fucking everything up completely goes against the core theme of the series, namely that the enduring horrors of the wasteland are predominately the product of mankind's folly). It's complete garbage through-and-through, and Avellone has lost his touch entirely.

>>380807301
Just let the fucking series die already with some dignity before Bethesda make complete asses of themselves

>>380807087
He's basically retarded.
Coincidentally he's Chris Avellone's 2edgy donut steel self insert character with 10 in every stat.

>>380807087
fug flags and ideologies and shit nuke em all like they nuked me :DDDDDDD

>>380807461
>before Bethesda make complete asses of themselves
they had a voiced protagonist and a hollywood party where a girl asked "whenss fallout boy playing"

>>380807301
I want the next Fallout to be made by someone decent.
Dixie theme fallout would be sweet,
but I would not trust Bethesda OR nu-Obsidian with it. Chris Avellone literally said if he was in charge of writing a south themed Fallout,
the plot would basically be FNV only with a dam being fought over in New Orleans rather than the Mojave.

>>380807301
Gatorclaws are already a thing as of Nuka-World. Naturally, they're just reskinned Deathclaws because making a new enemy archetype is hard.

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>>380807087

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>>380807461
>Just let the fucking series die already with some dignity before Bethesda make complete asses of themselves

>>380807587
>Chris Avellone literally said if he was in charge of writing a south themed Fallout,
>the plot would basically be FNV only with a dam being fought over in New Orleans rather than the Mojave.

That still sounds much more fun than anything bethesda is capable of shitting out.

>>380805565
The reason for the power armor training was to prevent Navarro Runs and stuff like that. They removed it in 4 since they added the fusion core mechanic and gave you a shitty suit right off the bat and locked the best sets behind level scailing, so there still wouldn't be any way for the player to rush towards the best armor in the game from the get go. You can argue about the lore implications and how shit retcons are, but as far as balancing goes, I think it's alright. I really do wish they waited a bit longer to give you a suit though, that shit is retarded.

>>380807719
I wouldn't put it past them to have a "slave revolt" scenario and then overly politicize it. That is my biggest fear.

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>>380807087
Ulysses was insane and nothing he said should have been taken seriously or factual.
Alternatively see >>380807629

>>380807804
no, what would've been better would be to
>keep durability for power armor but also for all items, power armor is very durable
>remove the need for fusion cores for proper power armor, but proper power armor requires training
>make the low tier power armors into shitty makeshift raider armors that require fusion cores but no training
>the one on the roof for example is now a shitty raider power armor, remove the vertibird entirely

>>380808075
You could just keep it as 45d, which canonically requires ECP to function. It's weird that they made that switch, but programming armor-dependent behaviors and variable ammo types (or even looping reloads) seems to be beyond Todd's grasp.

>>380807719
I want these games to stop being about "there's a valuable resource and X number of factions all want it, pick a side."
Say what you will about Fallout 4's garbage writing/execution, but the premise was at least more a knockoff of 1 than of 3 or NV.

Fallout 1 and 2 had straight up antagonists, one specific exact guy or group of people you had to take out and who wouldn't let you take their side.
4 made the mistake of, strangely, making the stakes too small. Nuking the commonwealth means jack shit compared to turning every human on earth into supermutants or wiping out everyone that's not the Enclave.

>>380808294
maybe since the transition between t-45d to t-51b was significant wasn't it
iirc t-45d was pretty much phased out by the time the bombs fell too
>and variable ammo types (or even looping reloads) seems to be beyond Todd's grasp.
it seems less that it's not possible for their team and more like spite

>>380807087
To make you second guess your faction?

I really don't fucking know, he'll give you shit no matter what faction you're siding with, he talks like such a pretentious cunt I have no idea what he's saying half the time, he got upset over people copying his hairstyle, he wants to nuke NCR for some reason, and obviously blames you for destroying the divide, and at the same time constantly says he isn't.

I don't know what Avellone was thinking with Ulysses or the Cass ending. Maybe he has a cuckold fetish. Fuck if I know.

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>>380808294
Aparantly Obsidian had a hell of a time wrestling the engine to get looping reloads to work at all, and they nearly gave up altogether until they finally managed to make it work. Even then it was still buggy as fuck. But the fact that they managed to do it, and Todd's crew didn't even try says wonders.

>that fucking lever-action rifle reload in Far Harbor

The fuck were they thinking.

>>380808832
That's my point - even with their heavily modified, updated and proprietary Creabryo, they still couldn't implement looping reloads. Don't even get me started on the exclusion of DT as a mechanic. Fallout 4 oozes laziness from every facet, like the hardcoded 4-option responses to the "determinant" dialogue (fun fact: you can visit Vault 84 without ever meeting Preston and still tell the kids there about how you killed a Deathclaw together).

>>380807461
>Just let the fucking series die already with some dignity before Bethesda make complete asses of themselves
>before

Anon...

>>380809075
it's funny though because they still did add new things
like different damage types came back out of nowhere

>>380809562
Despite logging probably 120 hours in Fo4, I don't remember damage types ever being relevant beyond radiation damage being complete shit.

>>380809642
i only played the intro bit before i couldn't stand it anymore
i just remember seeing them really, and the mechanics themselves are in there so as long as you've got people who have a knack for balance you could get some neat stuff going from that

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>>380808816
Some of these are explained fairly clearly.

>he got upset over people copying his hairstyle
One of Ulysses character tics is REEEEEing when people copy symbols without understanding their meaning or history. His tribe used specific knots in their hair to convey details about themselves as a form of language. When he describes getting sickened at the white legs copying his braids, it's part disgust at him realizing that the history of his tribe is completely bastardized and forgotten by everyone, and part physical disorientation from instinctively trying to read their braids, which are meaningless because the white legs don't know the meaning behind what they're imitating in the first place.

>he wants to nuke NCR for some reason
Setting aside Avellone's autism for the moment, in universe Ulysses is trying to choke the mojave to death. Cutting off the long 15 ensures New Vegas dies as a civilization, as it is the only route of bringing supplies and people from California. As House puts it in a hypothetical scenario where Vegas is cut off from the NCR: "Goodbye, tourist economy."

>>380809905
That large human man with the skin condition and slick suit must be the leader of that group. I'd shutter to think what would happen if they were to block my path.

>>380810215
>shutter

>>380807087
New vegas has garbage writing all around
The only thing it has going for it is that it makes sense and is consistent in how bad it is

That's Chris for you, he really is bad as a writer, and he knows it
He never wants to be the main writer these days, only a helping hand
He knows he's shit

Say what you want about Fallout 4, but at least it had an interesting premise

Please write my character for a NV alcoholic run including special

>>380810286
>but at least it had an interesting premise
no it didn't

>>380810258
I'm intimidated by the sheer power of that band of adventurers that I can't even type correctly. Please send help.

>>380810354
More interesting than New vegas
>factions fighting over X thing!

>>380810602
how is that any different from fo4

>>380810602
But fallout 4 is factions fighting over x thing without a reason. At least there was a good reason in New Vegas

>>380810292
>alcoholic run

Not an interesting enough concept to justify a roleplay, seems more just like a trait an actual fleshed out character might have.

Nevertheless:
S 10
P 2
E 10 (for Cass's drinking contest)
C 5
I 2
A 1
L 10

You're a clumsy drunk shit. I made you a retard to make it more interesting. You really have no business surviving, but annoyingly you do anyways. Raul is going to be your main companion, because he's the only one who will mock you for being the retarded faggot you are. That's right, you're also gay. Take the confirmed bachelor perk ASAP.

Fuck you, you gay retard.

>>380809905
I'll accept the hair stuff, though it clearly was meant to honor him, it's not exactly the white legs fault they realised they could have been saying some fucked up shit from their braids (that's also a really weird idea, conveying something through knots in your hair.)

But I still don't understand why he wants to destroy the mojave. Is it because of the courier? I remember him saying how he doesn't blame you but learnt from you, and yet every time he always sounds accusing towards the courier about the divides fate.

I'd chalk it all up to him being crazy but I don't think that's what Avellone was going for.

I've tried so many times but I can't bring myself to like the NCR. Their caricature of a "military" feels even goofier than the Legion's Roman empire shtick.

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>>380810292
I'm drunk, so it's only fitting.
I'd advise getting Writable Logbook just because setting your motivations and thoughts on quests is great for RP and maintaining character without having to deal with alt-tab shenanigans.

>You grew up in central California, born and raised by farmers a decade after the defeat of the Enclave.
>As the Core Region became increasingly centralized and stratified, your family's well-being took a turn for the worse.
>Brahmin Barons eventually seized your land through a combination of force and bribery, and your father had to sign on as a rancher to maintain even a fraction of the status he once held as a landowner.
>Teenage life bumfuck nowhere left you with plenty of downtime when you weren't shoveling Brahmin shit, and you spent most of your adolescence shitfaced or working.
>When you heard word of Hoover Damn and the luxurious Strip in the early 2070s, you took your chances and split town.
>You signed on as a courier, first in California and later in the Mojave, with one goal in mind: head east and make a better life for yourself.
>Instead, you faltered. You botched job after job before you finally made it to the Mojave, where your luck finally ran out. Benny killed you.
>Or did he? Exhausted by failure and an otherwise wholly disappointing life, you've resolved to complete what you feel is your final job, no matter the cost.

>6/5/8/5/5/5/4

>>380810731
>>380810737
I am in a new vegas shill thread, so no wonder people will go up and arms over that comment

What is there to fight over?
Fallout 4 is not about some X thing like new vegas, it's a lot more complex than that

>But fallout 4 is factions fighting over x thing without a reason
>without a reason
What's the X thing then?
And there are reasons, it's spelled out so I don't know how you missed this

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>>380790582
Why are all of the tiny side characters so memorable? How did they do it?

>>380811318
>bethesda game
>complex
stop

>>380811318
Fallout 4 is people fighting over robots because the robots were killing people. But why were the robots killing peope?
Fallout new vegas was about two factions fighting over the hoover dam, which can provide the winner with lots of energy, basically allowing them to crush the other faction and control the west coast.
>I am in a new vegas shill thread
Yes, a fallout 4 shill in a new vegas thread, like a fish out of water.
Nice bait by the way 10/10

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>>380811509
Good writing.

So have the devs of the frontier mentioned about bringing the tank or cars they made for the mod to the mojave, as separate mods or through the frontier?

Asking since one of them released a mod that let's you fly a vertibird similar to how it'll work in the frontier.

>>380811318
Alright I'll bite. How is Fallout 4 more complex? Genuinely curious.

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>>380811318
>Bethesda
>Complex

>>380811642
nigga i dunno
but those vehicles look a little jank
they've got that "clunky tf2 server that tries to have cars but they end up stuttering around everywhere" look to them

>>380811594
>But why were the robots killing peope?
>Nice bait by the way 10/10
So you can't communicate without resorting to retardation? Why reply to people if you're gonna talk like that?

Anywho, it's quite simple why robots are killing people
The institute has their vision for humanity, they're a society of high brow scientists with their own goals for the future

They don't let morals stand in their way, and every person they replace with a robot is to further their reach and control

The mayor of Diamond city is a synth for example, it makes sense

The robots are their eyes and ears into the wasteland and a way to influence things out of sight
They managed to explore this much better in Far Harbor, which was a pretty great experience considering it's Bethesda who made it

So yea, fallout 4 doesn't have
>all factions fighting over X thing
It at least tries to be more interesting, even if it's pulled off badly

>>380811940
they should've limited themselves to just tanks and vertibirds.

that one part in the new trailer where the legion chariot goes over a single rock and the whole thing jumps up made we want to die.

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>>380812065
Hope you're not too retarded to read

>>380812065
>it's quite simple why robots are killing people

And yet you still don't really have a reason for it. They're killing people because they're "unrestrained by morality," but that isn't morality.
That's literally just killing people for no reason because you want to replace people with robots because ????

Do they think the robots are better than humans? Are they trying to do what the Master wanted, replacing humans with a group more fit to survive?
I don't think that makes much sense, considering robots can't reproduce, exactly the same problem as super mutants.
They could build more robots themselves, but considering that's never brought up in-game, I don't think that was the plan.

Why does the Institute send synths out to murder and replace them for any reason beyond making them Bethesda's retarded equivalent of "morally grey?"

At this point, stories about AI aren't an interesting premise anymore unless you're vaguely competent at it.
It's not "more interesting" than factions fighting over X when I could read hundreds and hundreds of scifi novels about AI that are all better-written.

>>380812551
You can do the same to New vegas or any other game, movie, book
This place hates Bethesda because everyone else loves them
It's a hivemind of contrarians
I didn't say Fallout 4 did any of that well, or that the storytelling was good, but that they tried

New vegas didn't try anything, just the bare minimum
Funny how people praise New vegas when Legion is such a terribly written and realized faction

>>380795460
>http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/61666/?

always stops working for me

>>380812203
Yeah, I'm more interested in the tank desu. Are xre cars or that motorcycle mod any good?

And in case anyone wanted the vertibird mod here it is:

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/60923/?

You don't have to fly it either, you can have the robot co pilot fly you to certain places.

>>380812835
>you can do the same to new vegas
Do it then

>>380812584
>And yet you still don't really have a reason for it.
I literally said WHY

>The institute has their vision for humanity, they're a society of high brow scientists with their own goals for the future

They don't let morals stand in their way, and every person they replace with a robot is to further their reach and control

The mayor of Diamond city is a synth for example, it makes sense

The robots are their eyes and ears into the wasteland and a way to influence things out of sight

For the rest of your retarded fucking question

>Do they think the robots are better than humans?

Ridiculous question
No, they see robots are machines, like a fucking wrench
They use them to further their goals, that's it

>Why does the Institute send synths out to murder and replace them for any reason beyond making them Bethesda's retarded equivalent of "morally grey?"
Answered this

>At this point, stories about AI aren't an interesting premise anymore unless you're vaguely competent at it.
It's not "more interesting" than factions fighting over X when I could read hundreds and hundreds of scifi novels about AI that are all better-written.

Yes yes, fallout new vegas is epic everyone here gets it

>>380812065
suppose the institute succeeds wins the faction fight what is their mission statement?

settle the wastes? i don't think so they either want to throw a round their power and fiddle with these peoples lives because they can

or they want to rule them as tyrants with snatcher spies to crush insurrection.

either option makes them cartoon villains a follower of the apocalypse style institute would be more interesting in, even if they had a devious streak such as subjegating farms for the tech for more yields that is something they have.

>>380812835
Name a plothole that NV had that was as major as any that 4 had.

>>380813112
I'm not wasting time on a group of people that will just spam BAIT over and over again to whatever I say
If someone was open for a sane discourse maybe I would have bothered
I'll give you a taste tho

Legion is an awful faction and Ceaser is a fucking idiot who Chris thought sounded "smart"
And lonesome road actually exists

There, done with you, keep shilling new vegas now

>>380813125
Not him, but can you honestly answer me this question? I've struggled with it for ages and I still don't know what the answer is.

What is the institute's end goal? They say they want to redefine humanity and have humanity's best interests at heart but I honestly don't understand how they plan to accomplish that.

>>380796832
I'd recommend getting Ceaser's New Regime.
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/45557/?

Adds a lot of brand new armours, in fact in the scripted ambushes past Nipton seem to wipe basic NCR patrols.

I uninstalled it because it tipped the scales too much for the Legion, NCR Elite Rangers were the only ones who stood a chance against basic Legion Troops.

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>>380813594
>Ceasar's New Regime.

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>>380813594
I mean I just fucking dig that Recruit gear.

>>380813486
So let me sum this up
>fallout 4 is better than new vegas
>but what about all these plotholes
>new vegas has plotholes too
>name some
>lol the legion is bad and the dlc is bad
Bad writing != plothole genius

I'm too dumb to understand my first encounter with dog/god
i was talking with god him eating his collar, and he then i failed an intelligence test about the bell outside, prompting him to say it was like a dinner bell to some. what was it about?

>>380813486
ceaser at least makes an excuse with the Hegelian dialectic

what does the institute do to justify themselves?

and to break down the dialectic since you probably dont want to spend a second googling it or hear it from ceaser's mouth

the world is in a dark age both legion and NCR have strengths by their clash the world will improve

>>380813238
>either option makes them cartoon villains
Because the Legion are completely not cartoon villain tier right?

If you want to know all this shit, google it or better yet play the game you're shitting on in every thread and explore the hidden parts of the Institute

I feel like we're not discussing anything, it's like I'm just telling you the plot

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>>380813594
>people unironically recommending CNR

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>>380813824
>ceaser

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>>380791415
Legion will ryse
https://mega.nz/#!6NpxjLoS!aduCKqM4DKKBeRTcI-ptq9sQiBuOibSSOewfm-wVzbg

>>380813717
Honestly I only have it for the models, I use the recruit armour for my Legion character, and kept the stats just above the regular legion stuff.

Couldn't stand how much they fucked the lore up to get away with this crap. Come on, Vulpes, in a fucking bear pelt? VULPES

>>380813828
Literally all you're talking about is the legion and Lonesome road. Here's a challenge: find a flaw that isn't from those two

>>380813125
>The institute has their vision for humanity, they're a society of high brow scientists with their own goals for the future

What are their goals? What do they gain by replacing people other than the vague notion of "power?"
They just wanna learn things? That's it? Because that was used as a JOKE in Old World Blues, the scientists who are actually complete dumbasses and conduct ridiculous evil experiments for no reason besides "progress."
What the fuck is the Institute "progressing" by developing indistinguishable human robots? Because now they're just a thing that exist. They don't really do anything. Most just think they're humans really, and they act like humans too. Nothing has been accomplished.

If they're "tools" like you say, the Institute dedicates a fuck of a lot of time to developing perfect human AI for "tools."
Shaun spent a fuck of a lot of time creating a perfect replica of himself as a child so accurate that even his father couldn't tell the difference. For what, for a tool?

You know there's already a tech-obsessed, unethical group of assholes who want to assert their power over the wasteland.
Except they actually have a goal, to obtain and keep safe old world technology, both to keep it out of the hands of crazy people and to research it.
They have y'know, like flaws and an ideology and clearly-defined rules that make them a real organization.
They have good intentions but are so egotistical that they believe they can push around whoever they want, like real people instead of supervillains.

Instead of being a badly-written serious version of a mad scientist group.

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>replying to this guy

c'mon now

>>380813969
holy shit thank you

>>380813824
>ceaser at least makes an excuse with the Hegelian dialectic
One of the worst lines I've ever heard in an RPG
I couldn't believe someone actually wrote that piece of dialog and put it in their game
Ceaser wasn't even trying to do that, what fucking synthesis?
He's trying to beat the NCR, not do that
He really is an awful character, fuck Chris for making me hear Ceasars nonsense

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>>380796832 >>380791415
https://mega.nz/#!6NpxjLoS!aduCKqM4DKKBeRTcI-ptq9sQiBuOibSSOewfm-wVzbg
legion will ryse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7xuuGXs5dY

C-A-E-S-A-R.

Even an inbred old hick like fucking Easy Pete gets the pronunciation right, you faggots.

>>380814113
Not him, but honestly if people weren't so immediately dismissive, inflamitory and overly defensive about this subject I think there could be an interesting discussion to be had here. This isn't one of them sadly.

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>>380814120
np have fun :)

also ncr by dragbody
http://www.gunetwork.org/t10746-release-ncr-ultimate-overhaul-v1-0

>>380814289
>inbred old hick like fucking Easy Pete
You might want to take that back before he gets to you

>>380813828
>implying im going to play a game i'm either going to not like for what i know it does in the first 10 minutes or go out of my way to try and have fun when i can do something else i do enjoy

caeser is cartoon villain tier but at least when you talk to ceaser he tries to talk you into his faction with the Hegelian dialectic, also if you are in ceaser's shoes what do you do with the raiders and tribals in this apocalypse scenario you do what they are good at fight and expand use slave labor to feed the troops and expand and now you're the leader and you keep on doing what you do best, bam now you name yourself ceaser

and you have another explanation for why the legion acts like it does because a follower died what he could to survive and found himself in a position of power

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>>380814720
BASTARD

>>380814720
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

you have to deal with medium pete now

>>380802052
My ragtag gang was always ED-E and Raul.
I just liked hearing Danny Trejo quipping about how his knees are bad

>>380813486
ve universally panned Lonesome Road for being far too try hardy and pretentious, and for pigeon holing the Courier into a backstory, which frankly was a better design choice.

As for the Legion, they weren't done. When the trailer was announced, I figured the Legion were some tribal that had evolved a culture around the Caesar's Palace casino, which wasn't an unreasonable thought when you consider how tribals in Fallout work.

I guess the Legion as we know them work, but some things leave a lot to be desired. I don't think it helps that the Legion faction were clearly unfinished.

>>380812065
The Institute has no concrete vision whatsoever. Their slogan is Mankind Redefined, but they shitcanned their cybernetics program and see Synths as inhuman tools incapable of attaining true sentience. They have no longterm plans for the wasteland beyond using it as a glorified lab. Their MQ centers around them getting a better power supply. By the end of the game, they have done absolutely nothing to redefine humanity or carry out any remotely transhumanistic goals. At most, they've killed a bunch of people and upgraded their reactor.

Their plan to replace ordinary people like Art or the residents of Diamond City is completely unnecessary when they could literally just send synths topside to act as regular people. Not only are they needlessly antagonizing the residents of the Commonwealth, they're giving themselves a far more conspicuous profile by ordering what they consider inhuman robots to perfectly imitate the replaced humans. Half the time, they can't even get that right (Mr. Warwick doesn't sleep, for instance).

Their teleportation technology is completely at odds with the very existence of escaped Synths. Not only can they warp Coursers anywhere in the Commonwealth, they have to warp them out of the Institute to begin with. Power supply concerns are nonsensical. That Synths can even escape at all when they can be reprogrammed with a single phrase makes the entire existence of escaped synths even stupider. Then you get into the railroad, whose actual password is railroad plastered at the end of an incredibly conspicuous trail that common NPCs know about. Ironically, the BoS (who lives a world away in the CW) are the ones that have been infiltrated by Synths.

That's not even getting into the clusterfuck of an ending, where the RR destroys the only way Synths can reproduce and the BoS nukes the single most advanced facility on the East Coast. NV is fucking Nabokov compared to Fo4's bullshit.

>>380814046
How about you answer me and explain why you need to know every single detail of this world?
You know why the institute is doing what they're doing, I told you

I liked New vegas enough to play it around 3 times, but then I realized something
There's a huge issue in vegas, every character is an info dump
It's really lazy, and unrealistic that everyone in the wasteland is the most chatty fuck ever, and will tell you who took that shit, when, with who, why and so on
It's like Chris didn't think having one bit of mystery or things left to the imagination would add to the game

It is important to have a deep world in an RPG, but the way it's fed to you in New vegas, it's like reading a really long and boring novel for most of the time

It hurts the writing a lot I think

>>380814290
It's a waste of time, these people, but it's okay because I've been playing fallout games like a madman lately, vegas and 4 included of course
So I got stuff I wanted to share

>>380814469
The armours in this look great (I absolutely love the ranger armors) but I don't want to use it cause I don't use any mods to change faces, and I don't like seeing these really nice looking faces compared to vanilla ones.

Also the major at forlorn hope looks fucking ridiculous.

>>380815050
Why did I write /v/ as ve...
Anyway you get my point, hopefully. Unless you were indeed baiting for replies, which I wouldn't be surprised with honestly considering how many morons we have flooding these threads with "hurr back to /vg/ F4 is amazing"

>>380792126
t. twelve year old

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>>380815136
>why you need to know every single detail of this world?
>in an open world RPG

>>380814720
BASTARD

I honestly can't follow this autistic arguement anymore. This is why /v/ is for new vegas, /vr/ is for 2d fallout, and /vg/ is for fallout 3 and 4

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>>380815173
>the major at forlorn hope looks fucking ridiculous
YOUNG MAN

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>>380793193
>people saw NV is just a big empty desert
>the big empty desert in F3 is somehow much better

I have never understood this.

>>380814616
>Hegelian dialectic
Are we all going to act like that isn't retarded? That it's good writing? That it makes sense?

Also, why do these tribes follow Ceaser like some god? They know he's not, why are they ALL that loyal to him, it's really stupid

All of these men weren't raised to see him as some god, so again why? Just convenience sake I guess

Also for a bunch of tribals, they sure are loyal and don't talk like idiots

Bad writing? Nah, new vegas has perfect writing, for sure

>>380815136
I think that's more down to the nature of video games.

They are always catering towards a new demographic, so you have to spoonfeed past events if your game is a sequel or prequel. It doesn't make sense giving every NPC in Goodsprings for example, long lists of dialogue detailing every faction because realistically, the players character (and indeed the person playing the game) should know of past events.

That's not to say shoving in old elements without explanation is good, because F3 did that and it's one of the biggest criticisms people have with it.

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>>380815509
What in the goddamn?

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>>380815567
>he's literally questioning the concept of Hegelian dialectics as "bad writing"

wow dude i'm calling hegel let's see if you can win in an argument

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>>380793193
>the sides quests, are mostly boring, too short, and lack a lot of simple directions to even know how to finish them off
You almost fooled me

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>>380814772
>>380814847
>>380815389

>>380815050
>>380815225
I know how the legion stuff was cut
But what we do have, is very fucking bad
No idea what could have elevated it, Ceasar would have remained the same probably and he was bad enough

>>380815267
Info dumping isn't interesting and neither is knowing everything (and I do mean everything)
It's not immersive, which is something an RPG should strive to be
But nah, INFO DUMP INFO DUMP INFO DUMP

Is there any point trying to get onto Gunnetwork if you don't like lore breaking or tacticool mods?

So far that's all I have seen from it.

>>380815862
Now you've done it. Hard Pete is coming for you

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>>380816026
There's literally no reason not to install it since it doesn't use a plugin slot.

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>>380816004
>tfw you built an Easy Pete gore folder to fish for (you)s

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>>380815529
I kind kind of understand where they come from even if I don't agree with it. Fallout 3's wasteland was designed with dungeons and weird gimmicky locations every which way that more often than not aren't really attached to anything else and are just there to give the player something to do while exploring. It's ADD in video game form, and for people who want to just run around and shoot mutants in the ass with a shotgun, that's all they need or want.

New Vegas was designed more around quests and trying to make the world a believable place where the bulk of what you find has a context or purpose for being there in relation to the rest of the world and had way less inconsequential dungeons full of generic baddies to fight in comparisson to 3 and that's just not what the crowd mentioned above is into. The lack of random encounters also doesn't help.

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>>380816191

>>380815801
???

>>380815587
Yea I get you and F3 had the same issue, which is funny
I really dislike it how the info dump nature of NPC's kinda detracts from who they are
I stopped seeing people in New vegas as people, but as a ripped out page of a book that's about a backstory of this world and nothing more

I just couldn't stand it on my third playthrough, I really wished RPG's could take a hint from the souls games

Yea they're not about the story, have no dialog pretty much, but people still find the lore interesting

Which should mean that RPG's could maybe calm down with the info dumping just a bit, in place of more natural dialog and writing, which could actually add to the world more than just blank information

>>380815893
Honestly if they'd kept the Roman shit down to a minimum, it'd be fine. I think that's what people have the most grievance with.

The reasons for what they are and what they do are perfectly fine and offer a good flipside to the motivations of House and the NCR. Problem with NV is that we only saw the morally questionable side of the Legion. Yes you can argue Nipton was a shithole and the Legion did it a favor, but aside from a very glancing references, we never see what Legion controlled land is actually like. If it is indeed "safe as long as you follow the rules" as people say, the choice presented to the Courier would be a much greater one because they're is a more morally ambiguous swing towards joining Caesar.

I've been thinking of doing a "High Score" thread, where I do everything I possibly can to make as much money as possible.

>10 Charisma
>10 Intelligence
>all points into Barter as soon as possible followed by Repair
>bad, good, as long as you can make money off it you go and do it
>kill people for their loot, even if it's something as simple as glasses as long as nobody will catch you
>store all weapons you get until you max Repair, and then repair and sell for max money
>the goal is to have as many caps as possible

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>>380816632
i wonder who could be behind this post

>>380816797
The Courier's name would be Mordecai Davidstienberg

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>>380815567
>why do these tribes follow Caesar?

Actually living under the legion isn't that bad. There's enough food and water to go around, they have power, the only problem is that if legionaries come and tell everyone get out of town, they have to. But even then there's little to no corruption or raiders, as the legion kills any raiders who don't join and he doesn't tolerate corruption. They were going to add non military legion locations to give you a better idea of this but ran out of time.

Also as Raul states, Arizona was a lot fucking worse before the legion showed up, so that's another reason they accept it.

>>380816384
To be fair with NV, NPCs in it feel more like actual people than they do in 3 or 4. For me at least, a lot of that is to do with the environment, which feels more realistic and concrete, as opposed to the inconsistent theme park style world design you have with 3 and to a lesser extent 4.

I don't think RPGs like this would work with a new game+ style system. It might work with a leveled scaled world, but level scaling is terrible and really lazy way to make the most out of a lack of content.

>>380816901
Don't forget the fact that Caesar forcibly integrated them and slaughtered/enslaved anyone who didn't enlist, then went on to indoctrinate their children. He's been at this game for a good 30 years, and Legionaires are trained from basically birth to fight and die for his glorious name.

>>380815509
How'd he find enough broteins in the post-apocalyptic US to get those gains

What are some good armor mods, both for NPCs and for the courier

>>380816901
The fact none of this was ever added ruins the game
But also, fuck the devs, it just shows how downhill Obsidian went because they had 4 fucking dlc's to expand on this, and they used none
Instead, we got garbage, mostly

>>380816921
I think Far Harbor was pretty great, much better than fallout 4 and more interesting than new vegas, but it is very short
I'd recommend it, but I'm not sure if it's standalone or DLC only

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>>380813594
>CNR

>>380817608
Powered Power Armor is a complete overhaul of the mechanics of Power Armor, adding a slew of custom modifications and personalized functions for each suit type.

Spice of Life is a massive clothing pack, but requires one of NV's shitty body mods to work.

>>380817613
While I love dead money and really like honest hearts and old world blues, I would have preferred Ulysses not be removed and instead of lonesome road, we got something that essentially added the stuff they wanted, like getting to play after the final battle.

NVR or FCO?

Or neither?

>>380818816
Yeah, would like a clarification on this as well. What's the best face textures you can get in NV?

>>380818816
NVR. 2 or 3 is a matter of personal preference. You need to dl FCO anyway.

>>380818361
They had an incredibly limited budget for the DLC, and the amount of things they would have to do if they made the game playable beyond the ending, like random NPC dialogue, changes in the world to reflect who you sided with, etc would have been way too much for them to feasibly handle. Say what you want about Lonesome Road, but I liked that it ended the Courier's personal story arc that was present through out the dlcs personally.

>>380816163
That doesn't make it essential but hey if it's what you like who am I to judge

>>380819123
Specifically, they had a total dialogue budget of 10,000 lines. Part of the reason why HH has so few side characters and next-to-no postgame.

>>380817917
>Spice of Life is a massive clothing pack, but requires one of NV's shitty body mods to work.

God fucking damn I HATE that the author didn't do these for vanilla.

>>380817613
>garbage
>what is dead money
>what is honest hearts (joshua graham is one of the greatest characters conceived within the franchise, not to mention randall clark aka the survivalist)
>what is old world blues
Honestly I don't get why people shit on the DLC so much. DM was not difficult even with collar around your neck, I still got to explore everything I could find with virtually no interference from the radios. HH was short yeah but it offered great content. OWB was full of bullet sponge enemies but I'd say that's the shitty engine's fault. I need to replay LR before saying anything about it, it's been forever. Also the DLC can be played in any order at any level, not sure why you wouldn't play them in release order though.

>>380819925
As someone whose played through HH too many times, it has a slew of flaws in the form of overall mediocre quest design and a complete lack of options for a legion character beyond assassinating Graham. LR is heavily centered on your faction choice and both DM and OWB allow you to play a fervent technophobe, so it's disappointing that HH has you working with a man Caesar despises with all his heart. Curiously, Graham has extra dialogue for players that have killed Caesar.

The map itself is nothing to write home about, and the quality of the dungeons leaves a lot to be desired (compared to the Belltower, Casino Interior and OWB/LRs setpieces). The companions, similarly, don't really compare to the DM cast (even if Follows-Chalk is my husbando). Randall Clark and Graham are probably the best-written characters in the franchise either way.

Can someone post character build templates?

>>380819925
I love dead money but hate the rest
Honest hearts was too short, too small, it was kinda nothing
Burned man was the only good part, but it wasn't enough
Old world was fucking retarded
Lonesome road is also

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Guys, i just booted New Vegas up and i found this guy siting down in Prospector Saloon, what do i do?

>>380792916
I don't get why Obsidian just doesn't make their own Fallout game. Call it FallIn or something, like how the makers of Xenogears made Xenosaga.

>>380820936
I'd say start a new game, but it's likely Funny Valentine has already helped him redesign all realities in his image.

>>380804010
The master race involves wrapping your body around a computer monitor? No thanks.

>>380821257
>he doesn't want to be a gen 1 smart-smart

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>none of the best girls are romanceable

>>380816879
Shlomo Goldstien sounds better.

>>380823157
As long as it's the most jewish sounding name possible, it works

>>380822367
>shitting on Red Lucy and Sarah Weintraub
shit taste tbqh

>went to sleep thinking about Julie Farkas and how she awkwardly stares at me
I had the weirdest dreams about it and it's criminal how there are no doujins or fics about it

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ROLL YOUR COURIERS FAGS

>>380823210
Mordeci sounds italian or something. Don't know what you were thinking there.

>>380823387
you're not really romancing them

you're just soullessly mating with them

>>380823473
Who?

>>380823596
As much effort as I went through to bed Red Lucy, I damn well consider it a form of Romance.

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>>380823210
I'd just pick something from this list.

>>380815509
Somehow it reminds me of that Half Life 2 cinematic mod

>>380817496
buffout's a helluva drug

>>380823596
That's exactly how Red Lucy would want it

>>380820398
>Old world was fucking retarded
>Lonesome road is also
Why though? People hate on the wacky sci-fi shit in OWB but there was way more to it than that, I thought they made that clear the more you learn about the Big Empty and its characters. I've heard a lot from these threads that Ulysses is a shit character, but like I said I need to replay LR. Personally I liked the way DM and OWB were tied together, and the same way the DLC comes full circle in LR. You hear about the Big Empty in DM long before OWB was even released. And Christine mentions the fight between two couriers at the edge of the world, you get to experience that. And all the DLC ties in with the main game. I suppose the strongest point is its storytelling and the devices used to attain that level of depth and connectivity for the characters and settings. An RPG has to have a great story, but at the end of the day it's a video game which means the gameplay should be great too.

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>>380823665
The Followers leader at the Mormon Fort.

>>380823794
Because it more or less is. Dragbody's mods are just assets ripped from other games. They rarely fit the style or art direction of the game they're being modded into.

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>>380793193
>Even on the easiest difficulty the game was still challenging
>there are people out there who find Fallout games challenging

>>380817496
>that outfit
You know he's sucking dick for protein.

>>380824051
Hearing about stuff doesn't fix the stuff being shit
It's just neat, that's all
It's the rest of the content in this DLC that's the issue
Also it's not really that connected, it's just mentions of these places and events

Which is fine and dandy, but as I said, the content itself is very lacking in the DLC

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>>380814469
>NCR complains about sweating their balls off in 200 degree Vegas heat
>Wears gear that wouldn't look out of place in the snow

No wonder Legion kicks their ass so much. No one could fight when dressed for winter in the middle of summer. This is like that time when Hitler invaded Russia in the winter, except the seasons are switched.

>>380812065
That apologetic doesn't work unless you're talking to someone who hasn't played the game and therefore wouldn't know that the Institute's goal is to achieve total self-sufficiency. To become an enclave. Everything they do gets in the way of that because they're written like someone ripped off Big MT and forgot halfway through that a group that screwed up can't be written seriously.
>>380813125
Yes you did. And your reason is stupid. It makes no sense.

"The robots are their eyes and ears into the wasteland and a way to influence things out of sight"

They're not 'out of sight'. If they were out of sight people wouldn't know it was happening. The whole kill and replace thing is, at best, redundant. Given how there's basically no central government in the commonwealth, it would be trivially easy to seed a population of late model synths (it also bears mentioning that the game never keeps the idea of the different generations consistent) as everything from service industry personnel to farmers to tradesmen of every kind. Hell, drop a few of them off in Maryland and have them pose as refugees heading North. No need to expose the operation to risk. Instead they embarked on a program of needlessly complex kidnappings and assassinations coupled with dropping experimental robots in the places of the victims gambling that they would seamlessly integrate. There was never a question of robots becoming full equals in Institute society - these were not (needlessly ghoulish) Turing tests. The replacement had to serve some other purpose but we're never allowed to know what it is.

>>380824051
OWB is an absolute slog to go through. The constant stealth trials and fetch quests make it a hassle. I only do it for the power ups.

>>380824420
this guy gets it

>>380824420
You're idea is even more retarded.

>Hurr lets just make 500 synths have them show up to say "How do you do, fellow humans?"

>>380824725
This guy samefags.

>>380807301
>mutant crocodiles
you mean alligators

>>380824881
Same thing.

>>380824420
What the fuck is this dribble?
They already do what you wrote, a ton of robots aren't replacements

But some are, because they're in a position that allows them to keep an eye on things and influence them

What the fuck is confusing you here?

>>380815136
Mysteries need solutions or they're just holes in the setting. If the setting of a story repeatedly draws attention to a particular thing and grant it some measure of urgency, then utterly fails to explain it in any way, then it has failed as a setting. The water problem/'but what do they eat?' is enough to rip Fallout 3's attempts at constructing a narrative into shreds because they completely screw up the delivery of everything needed to make that work as a setup. Even bad-to-mediocre stories understand this.

For example, there are several power players in the region that have significant connection to how the setting is the way it is. One, the Gunners, are supposedly mercenaries but we never can find out who hired them, what the terms of their contract are, what they're actually supposed to be doing, etc. Never mind where the group came from or how they got their equipment and training. The player can never, say, amass a wad of cash and buy out their contract and hire them to act as defense against all the stupid shit the Institute has seeded into the region/facilitated by strangling the Commonwealth's incipient government in its cradle.

>>380824164
That post has got to be bait. It reads like bait.

>>380807609
Crocs wouldnt mutate at all, imo. They've stayed the same for millions of years and most wasteland wildlife could still be killed by them.

>>380824938
not really

>>380825140
Bait.

>>380825107
What do you think I'm arguing here?
Are you confused?
Read my post again

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>>380824821
frig off randy

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>>380824938

>>380823594
>Mordeci sounds italian or something

>The name of a Jewish prophet from the Talmud doesn't sound Jewish enough

does it hurt being this fucking retarded?

>>380825107
To be fair as far as the Gunners are concerned, they came from that vault where they were trying to make super soldiers out of kids, or the original ones did anyway. Who they actually work for most of the time is up in the air though, I guess it's just "anybody that's not the player".