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>the worst launch in MMO history how did they manage

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>the worst launch in MMO history

how did they manage to fuck up this badly?
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>>380781773
>needlessly move the servers
>instanced content 30m into the expansion
>they really though this would work

LOL
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>>380781773
The WoW guys are making fun of our active time maneuvers!
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>>380781773
It isn't the worst launch, I've seen far worse.
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>>380782171
this shit does look retarded
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>the worst launch
But the game will only be officially released in June 20 :^)
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>>380782665
FFXIV is my only MMO, which others were worse? Im not OP btw
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>some ASTbull is casting earthly star in quarrymill to mock me and everyone who didn't skip 90001
it isn't fair /b/ros
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>>380782171
holy shit... is this real?
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>>380781773
> launch
is early acces

still a week from launch
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>>380782171
are ALL the active time maneuvers as stupid as this one? or this is just like an entry level boss that's very very basic showcasing the feature?
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>>380782171
thats pretty cool
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which server should I pick?

does anyone want to level up together with the double xp?


Zalera dude from the old thread, what level are you on your character? If you're not too invested you could just make another one
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>>380782818
Have you never completed your Alexander normal storyline?
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Careful OP, not allowed to talk about a video game expansion that came out today, we need the space for a 9th persona waifu thread
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>>380782782
WoW's wasn't exactly stellar, neither was Wildstar's. Tortanic took a nose dive as well. The only MMO to consistently have a good launch has been RIFT, but that game is deader than all of /v/'s chances at finding love.
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>>380782819
>is early acces

He is falling for the early access meme
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>>380781773

>the worst launch in MMO history

2.0 launch has this shit beat by a country mile
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>>380782842
it's like the 2nd active time maneuver in the game
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>>380782904
is not early acces?
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>>380782896
I dont play shitty chinese mmorpgs
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>PoTD
>on floor 98
>DC
>???
>2,346 que to log in
>???
>now fapping
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>>380782915
what happened during 2.0 launch?
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>>380782842
one was used in a savage raid that was pretty much press x to not die
hardest content in the game

I don't have much faith that they'll make QTEs interesting in an MMO
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>>380783052
What's happening now, but far worse
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>tfw you got in, got to a dungeon only to dc and not be able to get in again
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>>380782171
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpaZd-koGtg
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>>380783093
>in an MMO
they couldn't get that shit right in non-MMOs either
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>>380782171
This just gave me a seizure.
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HW launch was so fucking smooth it was criminal
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>>380783052
Odin the fate boss used to zantsuken whole servers by himself. To this day the strongest primal in the game.
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>>380783052
Everything happening today, but over the course of a week
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>>380782171
i hate yoshi p so fucking much.
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>>380783263
it's almost like they hadn't moved the servers weeks before
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can you still refund? this shit is unacceptable. good luck when the masses come in during launch. LOL
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>>380783350
What's funny is it happens multiple times
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>finally log back in to POTD
>it's the final floor of the set
>get all the exp
>I played for maybe 1 minute
woah so this is the power of the palace
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>>380782819
>it is early access
Yeah, they are gonna fix a lot of stuff one week from launch.
They can't even touch the fucking thing 1 week from launch without risking an unexpected problem and a delay.
Whatever you are seeing right now is what you are gonna get in one week, but worse, because there are gonna be more people.
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This launch seems pretty average desu. If they don't get things sorted by sunday then it'll be proper bad.
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>Do Frontline
>90001
>Come back
>Still get the exp
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>>380783463
The only reason people are pissed is because HW only launched with login issues. Duty servers/instance servers were fine.
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Has yoshi p made any comments about adding some sort of world pvp in the future or something similar to the territory control from XI?
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>>380783402
Let's not kid ourselves, this is 100% launch, people aren't retarded enough to not preorder if they are interested in mmos. The main appeal of expensions is resetting everyone at the same level.
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>>380782171
This is kinda epic for the win though not sure why people are bashing it
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>the minus 5 until deletion
>4
>3
>2
>
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on a larger scale its not too bad
its really just one thing from what ive seen though said one thing is absolutely devastating in terms of progression through the expansion

i still prefer it a million times over ARR,
legion, wod, and wildstar launches
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>multiple threads cause janitors deleting them

take
the
hint
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>yfw
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>rdm and sam start at 50
>have to level 2 more times through heavensward or grind potd
Fuck whoever approved this
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>>380782171
How do you go from fights like Titan to this?
Holy shit.
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This is your RDM tonight
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>>380781773
>Wake up, learn that everyone is walled in MSQ.
>Log in. 17 in the Queue
>Potd with RDM.
>Get tired and take a nap, hopefully it wont be as congested.
>Forgot people started getting off work.
>714 in the Queue.

FUUUUCK. Why didnt i know this?
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>>380783741
>HOW DARE PEOPLE DISCUSS VIDEOGAMES ON THE VIDEOGAMES BOARD. WE NEED ANOTHER E-CELEB THREAD
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>>380783741
Consider suicide
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>>380783549
>PvP now an entirely separate game mode with it's own stats and abilities

Not happening
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As OT for susan, am I supposed to share stormsplitter with the MT ? The casting time and name kinda implied it's a shared tankbuster.

I just did the fight one time and shared the dmg every time so just want to know for the next time.
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>>380783887
You don't get to decide the rules; GENERALS EXIST FOR A REASON
>>380783904
Consider a GF
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>>380783741
lmao like that's going to stop anything
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>>380783839
Doesn't matter, even if you would have stayed in the game you would have been disconnected repeatedly.
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>>380783973
>getting to susan at all
FUCK YOU
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>>380782171
can all classes do this, or only tanks?
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>>380784015
You first
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> literally waiting in line for your turn to do MSQ instance event.
> DPS queue is 50+ role number
> only thing to do is level SAM and RDM in PoTD. can't believe I'm saying thank you jeebus for PoTD.
> good xp if you can avoid getting killed by the ultimate boss, LAG!
> people disconnecting left and right. 6 gorillion queue wait time to get back in

I stayed up until 4am for this shit. At first I was angry, but all I can do now is laugh at Yoshi P's incompetence.
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>>380784016
lmao i hope they start range-banning you faggots. you're clearly a bunch of selfish twats who have no regards nor care about this site at all. fuck you.
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>>380782171
this is cool as shit. This finally starts to show of stupid strong our characters are supposed to be. I love it.
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>>380784164
Better soft range ban all of the other multiple threads that are on this board every day, then.
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Is the gcd decreased? No? Then fuck off. Nobody cares about the newest waste of time on your dead game from a dead genre.

>>>/vg/
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>>380784164
I wish we had an e-celeb twitter post thread right now right? Fuck video games.
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>>380784164
Yeah fuck people who discuss games on the gaming board better go make a lol thread, some console bait or more furry shit
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>>380784252
You don't make the rules.
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>REEEEEEE GET IN LINE
>FUCKING YOSHIP IS A JAP NIGGER
>WORST LAUNCH IN HISTORY

Why not consider doing something else? Did you people really expect everything to go smoothly?
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Is The Bull still cucking everyone?
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>>380784027
Honestly feel bad for people stuck, as a tank for the second dungeons im sitting at 40+ wait time with 1/4 in the group.

It's just dumb.
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>>380784310
anon is right, this games trash. ive accepted yoshill p is a hack and doesnt think shit through.
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>>380784164
>selfish twats who have no regards nor care about this site at all
>t. autist trying to shut down a video game thread on a video game board
?
did you bug the persona and fire emblem threads next door to close up shop yet?
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>>380784208
And then the next cutscene will probably have WoL scowling angrily at a bad guy while he does something terrible. Or maybe having the WoL get taken out by 3 noname guards.
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>get home
>see this thread
>all this crying
>jump in game
>Players in queue: 16

What the fuck are you guys griping about?
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>>380784327
And you don't pay my sub
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>>380784439
I hope we get poisoned wine again
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>>380784327
And neither do you.
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>>380781773
The instanced stuff is mandatory to progress? Was thinking of getting this gaym
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>>380784015
What is the rule being broken exactly?
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>>380784461
Raubahn
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8 hours at Raubahn, not even queueing
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>>380784461
See you in 30 minutes when Raubahn refuses to let you progress
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>>380784330
>Why not consider doing something else? Did you people really expect everything to go smoothly?
Considering this garbage is supposed to launch in 1 week? Yes. It should be working.
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>>380784015
>defending generals
sure is summer

I'm not even a 14 faggot, either, you are just painfully new.
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>>380783040
Why are you above Floor 60?
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>people rushing to complete the main story first day
Why? Have you never played mmo's before you're setting yourself up for disappointment if you expect everything to work perfectly
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>>380784546
NO STAY AWAY!
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>>380784461
>5 minutes later
>90001 in quarrymill
>Players in queue: 2,500
just you wait
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>>380783741
>multiple threads made because jannie deleted the one thread we had going
Almonds officially activated
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>>380784701
Idiots like high places.
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>>380784659
Were the goalposts heavy?
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>>380784740
I'm playing MCH though, don't need to go to potd
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Warlord of Draenors' was way, WAY worse.

>"Let's dump the ENTIRE DAMN PLAYERBASE in one of two locations and make it that they HAVE to do that before they can do literally any content the new expansion has to offer!"

This has a couple of days to be completely fucked over to match that since it went on for a fucking long time to sort out.
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Shout out to all the guys that attempted to form a neat and orderly line. It was fun and interesting despite the ADHD kiddies ignoring the line and just bumrushing and surrounding Raubahn, making him nigh invincible.

I stood in line and I finished the quest, hope you other linebros were as lucky
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>>380784770
>palace is underground
???????????????????????????????
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>>380784164
>/v/ isn't congested with console war faggotry for once
>summer faggots bitch and complain
wew
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>>380783481

>You even get a victory, too
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I took a break for awhile and didn't follow what changes were going through. Just logged in to find that none of my crossclass abilities are available anymore.
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>>380784789
that's not the point. you will be ejected for merely existing in the game
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>>380784789
hope you like talking to Raubahn
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>>/vg/
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>>380784827
The line means absolutely nothing if theres roughly the same amount of people surrounding him at all times. Its a placebo for anyone who gets in relatively quick.
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>new expansion literally dropped today
>getting mad that people are talking about it
Practice what you preach anon, back to back threads for new shit was always allowed.
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I have a question: I just finished the ARR. through the rest of the story does the WoL ever become not a Mary Sue character to save the world? It just feels so weird that IM the one that is saving the world, id like it so it's revealed that other players are WoL to or something.
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>>380784930
running fine for me.
>>380784932
How so? Gear level?
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>>380784961
>can't even link to boards correctly
lmao
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>>380784827
uh source/artist?
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>>380785034
the MSQ duty finder is completely locked down due to congestion, you can quest all the way up to him but thats it. you have to wait with everyone else. its been going on all day
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>>380785034
there's 500 people trying to get into first MSQ duty on moogle
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Where are you supposed to pick up the lvl 50 sam and rdm armor. must have missed something because I'm on the lvl 54 quest on both and still so no gear as rewards but see level 50s in it.
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>>380785034
>why is everybody bitching i haven't even played the game haha
kys
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>>380785138
Eh that's fine. I can find something else to do.
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>>380785162
You first :^)
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>>380785147

You got a chest that gives you the Glamour items. You have to open it in a capital city. Most people are just using Ironworks or the Heavensward crafted stuff.
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>>380781773
yo this thread is wild
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I know one of you fucks have SAM at 62 or higher by now, does it get any more fun? In POTD it's very boring compared to RDM so far
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>>380785009
There are multiple time where they say that you and you're companions(other players)are going to go kill stuff. Every time you do an 8 man trial it isn't just you the other people who are there actually exist.
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>>380785203
>You will never be this triggered
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how to spot an mmo baby
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>>380785203
>being this assblasted
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>>380781773
yo this thread is mad wild
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>>380785267
why get offended? that's what you get for asking retarded questions
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>>>/vg/
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Is there a pattern to getting kicked?
Post your server and last time you got kicked
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The pvp is fun!
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>>380785428
>why get offended?
Pot calling the kettle black everyone
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>>380785449
fuck off /vg/ is cancer
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>>380784920
Read the patch notes retard
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>>380785495
Unless you're a caster then you will always get your shit rekt 1vs1
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All popular new releases always have a rolling thread don't see how an expac is any different
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Wish you were here, linecucks
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what garbage launch
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>>380785646

It's just 1-2 people who hate MMOs spamming the thread.
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>>380785646
because we need more e-celeb, twitter and waifu threads. What do you think this is, a board that discusses video games?
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>>380785687
>hate mmos
>hate generals
>enjoy clusterfuck launches of any shape
/comfy/ thread, desu. Don't get what is the deal with those autist
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>>380785645
I am
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>>380785203
>p-please come play wow with me guys
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>>380785645
Why would you go 1v1 when your role is being artillery?
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I don't get why are people saying the launch is so bad, I was able to get in and play the game just fine with the exception of 4 dc's over 12 hours which is absolutely amazing for an MMO expansion release.
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>>380785496
well i don't care
you can join the club any time
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>>380785652
shit city

rip ishgard
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>>380785652
I bet you sucked lalas' dicks to get there.
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hey guys its not that bad at least we dont have 50 dragoons spamming ring of thorns on raubahn
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>>380783741

the janitor was chris metzen the whole time
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So the thing for instances is that they are static, not dynamic, so there's probably, like, 200 empty Garuda EX slots while everyone keeps hammering the Coldsteel instance slots.
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Cant stop farting lads
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>>380786031
enjoy all the mangetsu/oka spamming SAMs instead
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>luminous earth crystal drops 3 FATEs in a row
Yeesh
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>>380785902
It's just luck. I've been disconnected over 8 times and have tried to get into the steel instance at least 100 times with only failing. It's fucking horrible for me.
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>all these giant fucking gauges for every class
I SURE LOVE MORE SCREEN CLUTTER
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>>380786031
Yeah, now we just have 50 SAMs spamming their aoe instead.
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>tfw you haven't crashed a single time since the game launched at 5AM

I only stopped playing from 11AM - 2PM
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>>380782901
>9th persona thread
>when i havent bitched about MonHunWorld for the 10th time today
REEEEE
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>>380785845
It was in the 1v1 at the wolves den
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>>380786209
>literally just gauges for shit that was already easy to keep track of
>removed the old way of keeping track of it

FUCKING WHY
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>>380781773
>the worst launch in MMO history
The Old Republic, Blade and Soul, and Wildstar are all recent examples of much worse launches where people couldn't even log in on launch, regardless of server congestion, And those weren't even issues during only early access, but for a few days after.
This is a mildly tame issue in comparison.
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>>380785275
>You have to open it in a capital city
oh damn.guessing I have to have finished HS?
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>>380786557
nah you don't even have to have ARR finished, just a level 50 job
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>>380786209
make them smaller
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>>380785275
>Glamour
it's starting gear, not glamour gear
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Alright guys, what cross role skills are you using
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>>380786380
easier to keep track of certain buffs with the gauges rather than having it cluttered in with other buffs/debuffs
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Why are the provokes in this game so dumb compared to every other MMO? Putting you on top of the enmity list means jack shit unless you already had a third hit enmity combo skill lined up. Why can't it be like in WoW where enemies are forced to focus you for like 3 seconds and provides bonus enmity during that time so its more usable? Also I cannot for the life of me see a use for Ultimatum. When are you gonna be in a situation where you dont have enmity on a pack of targets unless you die?
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>>380785652
i would fucking NEUTER YOU. DELET THIS NOW!
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>>380786380
INNOVATION! NEW FEATURES! IMPROVMENT!! NEW = ALWAYS BETTER EVEN IF IT IS NOT BECAUSE IT IS NEW
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>be BLM
>do some FATEs in the new areas
>oh look a crowd of mobs better use my aoe rotation including my brand new shiny aoe thunder
>oh no that other player wasn't a tank/tank didn't bother to hold enmity on more than one target, and I am now being gangbanged by three enemies while manaward is on cooldown and no way to heal since they took physick
>there is a healer but he's getting hit by one enemy nobody bothers to pick up
>I am now dead, what a shame
>I'll just wait for this healer to rez me since there are no enemies around anymore, which they should be delighted to do since it gets them achievements
>he leaves
>it's a filthy lala sprout in full shire from GAF
I will remember this forever.
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>when you got in within 5 minutes
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I want to cum on Lyse's stomach so bad
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>Okay, you all need to calm down about WHM...
/v/: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>expected server issues for first day of new expansion
/v/:
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>>380786380
>icons for ants that don't stay in the same places
>every job uses the same fucking buff row format because you're too much of a lazy shit to give them more distinct visual cues
it's a barely functional system. every video game with a gimmick also provides a unique UI element for that gimmick. the fact that it took this game 4 years to do so is unacceptable
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>>380786969
COMMIT SUDOKU YOU FUCKING HACK AND DO IT IN 5 MINUTES LIKE 999!!!
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>>380786915
>Expecting competence in FATEs

You got exactly what you deserve.
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>>380786969
>he thinks people are upset because of server issues
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Looks like catering to casuals ruined the game. Half the jobs are literally just mashing one skill repeatedly for their rotation.
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>>380786959

I want to cum on Yugiri's feet so badly.
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>>380786663
they just selling it in ul dah?
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>>380787108
Name three
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>>380787081
I just want the EXP so I can triplecast and zip to my ley lines.
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>>380787108
Can you name the job, because I'm not seeing it
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what role skills should i choose for DRK?
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How does SAM play? Does it use any double oGCDs?
I'm east coast so I can't play NIN anymore
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>>380787154
You should have gotten it as a reward from the opening quest, it's called like Samurai/Red Mage Coffer
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I think Y'sthola just made reference to me being a healer? Not sure because of the kojispeak but cool if it was.
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>>380786726
Make them fucking icons again
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Oh man, I love it.
>WAAAAAHHHHH, STAND IN THE LINE
>DON'T CUT IN LINE
>IT'S AGAINST THE RULES
>I REPORT YOU
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>>380786959
I want to slide my hand down Y'Shtola's shorts...
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can someone make me a script that doesn't the confirmation shit in game for me?
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So I just logged on to try SB content but some of my abilities are crossed out, wtf happened?
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Got in boys WW@???
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>>380784439
Now imagine Thordan at the end of 3.0 having both healers go Y'shtola mode with shields to protect us from the Knights of the Round or something.

I think the one above ran a bit too long, but I can very much get behind the fact that we're goddamn godslayers and we're gonna finally show it off
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>>380787394
The instance of Ultros I'm in has completely given up on the line, it's just a cluster of spammers.
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>>380787241
ALWAYS assume that other players in FATEs are drooling retards. You will never be disappointed.

FATEs are like the proto-PotD in that people who level only by doing them tend to have no idea how their class is supposed to actuallyh work.
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>>380786915
>expecting party play while not in a party
>just laying there instead of asking for help
You're just like your mother
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>>380787481
Did you not read anything at all?
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>>380787394
Is the line thing an american thing? In phoenix there were no lines for cold steel.
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BWAHAHAHAHA! IT'S LIKE ALL MY NAMEDAYS HAVE COME AT ONCE!
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>>380787375
they should give an option for it so that people like you would shut up but i personally don't want to experience that kind of self-harm again

we were all used to icons because that's what the game force fed us
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>>380787534
>Ultros literally less organized and cohesive than Balmung
Wew lad
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>>380787483
>*cracks knuckles*
>do a quick namesearch to confirm suspicions
>ultros, ZR
You faggots said you weren't memers.
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>>380787649
It doesn't apply to you then. It's for the servers with issues.
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>make it to level 53 doing FATEs without getting DC'd
>guess I'll try PotD again
>get DC'd on the first floor yet again
Y-yay
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>>380787654
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>>380785009
Pretty much all your allies are warriors of light too. But it's generally implied there are only a handful not several thousand.
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>>380783481
you can afk in frontline?
>>380785292
i'm sorry for calling you guys a mean name please respond
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>>380787816
Is getting into the solo duty considered a meme?
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>havent caught up on post 60 content
>try to queue for some of it
>30+ min wait time

is this because everyone wants to blaze through stormblood or because the servers shitting themselves
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>>380787731
Not all of us are ADD kiddies who need a flashy meter shoved in our face
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So, are duties and instances still fucked?
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>>380787943
You still have a spot reserved in that instance unless the party kicks your DC ass.
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>>380787947
The 2nd one. 90% of players can't even make it past the first solo instance in the new MSQ quests.
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>>380788040
Just that one MSQ
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>>380787816
>Believing ZROndores lies
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>>380787947
Duty Finder will be fucked for the forseeable future with their genious move of releasing 2 very popular DPS classes at once.
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>>380788104
You can still get disconnected form most instances.
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>>380787282
SAM actually have very few oGCD, at least at 60. It's all about GCD combos followed by iaijustu most of the time, and burning kenki with some oGCDs every now and them.
Not sure how it plays at 70, though.
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I just woke up from a 3 hour nap, is that quest still fucked?
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>40mins in queue
>Get in
>90K in 10 seconds
Yeah, okay, that's fine.
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>>380788151
I haven't gotten DC'd once though and I'm >>380786228
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>>380788191
Please look forward to it.
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>>380788191
yeah don't even bother
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>>380788125
>>380788061
I see
guess ill just fuck around doing other stuff then until everything stabilizes
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>>380788191
Well! you can go take a look at the line!
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>>380781773
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HELP
I JUST WENT TO PRE ORDER IT ON THE PS STORE AND IN THE PRE ORDER DETAILS IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT LETTING ME PLAY EARLY OR ABOUT THE ITEMS YOU GET

DOES PS4 DIGITAL PRE-ORDER NOT GET SHIT AND I GOTTA WAIT TIL TUESDAY FOR IT TO UNLOCK?


PLEASE RESPOND
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>>380788285
Its been getting progressively worse. People are getting kicked just standing around town.
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>>380782842
Active time maneuvers aren't meant to be genuine QTE's, they're just supposed to be charming callbacks to games that have them. There's only two in the game for instances that are basically just a flashy segment, and you just press a button with no way of failing it.
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>Make 10 spots available for doing a solo instance
>Have a whole data center share it
How does Yoshi do it?
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>>380787574
Not really, no. Best I heard was they were changing the combat but that´s pretty vague.
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>>380788381
>ecelebs don't have to wait
mrhappy is almost 70 at this point.
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>>380788381
>Get into it
>Leave one enemy alive and just keep healing myself all day

Devilish
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>>380788236
I have many times.
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Friendly reminder the lines don't work nor help the issue since instances are tied to the data center meaning that you'd have to get everyone on every server to make a line and go 1 by 1.
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why does susano have a long queue, is there to many healers or have EU already gone to bed?
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>>380783545
Funny thing is that it's better to be able to play the game at all and just get stuck on story rather than fail to log in.
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>>380786808
>BLM have their fancy gauge that keeps track of your astral/umbral buff, hearts and Enochian.
>BRD gauge only keeps track of your song progress and pitch perfect procs. Doesn't show you any information on your dots or straighter shot duration.
I wish they at least made it consistent with what the gages show. That or just give us a fully customizable weakauras clone.
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>>380788678
nobody is there yet
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>>380788372
>he doesn't read fine print
>he does the read the lodestone topic telling people exactly what to do
What a retarded faggot, I bet you wait in line
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>>380788678
Very few people have advanced the MSQ that far
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Took a nap is the quest still bugged?
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>>380782171
what the fuck
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>>380788739
>>380788776
more than half of my FC are already past that
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>>380788787
haha
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I was waiting for this to happen at some point. Good job square.
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>>380788587
sucks for you
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>>380788851
There is still not that many people there yet due to the instance issues. Read the lodestone notes.
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>>380788851
So ask them to play with you
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>yfw this continues until tuesday where suddenly everything is fine now
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>>380788372
please
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>>380788851
Well you're lucky. Out of the 75 or so people on my friend list and in linkshells not a single person is past The Fringes
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>all these PvP changes
>Gosetsu's "teleports behind you" skill used in 3.5 MSQ is a PvP skill
>I don't lose EXP if the server kicks me out of the game
Fuck PotD, I will PvP all the way to 70.
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>>380788787
For the last time its not bugged. The hacks at SE as usual will have their servers crash if someone so much as sneezes at them. As such they limited the amount of people who can be in an individual instance at one time. Problem is that number is probably something stupid like 10 across an entire datacenter.
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FFXI is superior :^)

XIV is casual trash.
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>>380788851
Good for you, fuckface. The other 95% are stuck due to cheap gook servers
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>>380789008
read what the fuck they sent you or preorder it again but dont check out to see the fine print. you can't even play most of the expansion anyway right now because they fucked it up
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>>380788736
I think it's supposed to be special job resources, not dots, as those are per-enemy information.
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>get kicked from server
>want to log back in
>2002
>finally get a qeueu
>kicked
>repeat

How is this company so bad at estimating server loads?
>>
Everyone is partying at the hedgehog.
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>>380786915
Your fault for not just tagging 6 mobs with scathe and running off to the next FATE.
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>>380789162
Purisu understand
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>>380789034
>I don't lose EXP if the server kicks me out of the game
but that's true for POTD as well so long as no one else cares enough to kick you
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>>380788929
I can't read moonrunes. What's she saying?
>>
YALL NEED TO CALM DOWN
>>
So much for the fears of abilities pruned.
Aside from the loss of Ring of Thorns my Dragoon so far doesn't really play that differently. And now whilst levelling he'll just be having more new skills.
>>
>"early access"
>can't access

thanks nips
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>>380789265
who the fuck knows they didn't translate it.
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>>380788574
there is a duration
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>>380787834
>actually get back in
>get to floor 55 or so
>DC again
IF I HEAR THOSE DRUMS ONE MORE FUCKING TIME
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>>380789265
Begone waitu piggu.
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>>380789243
Well, it's definitively harder to be kicked out of a 72-man instance compared to a 4-man one.
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>disconnect after every 5 minutes of playing
>wait 30 minutes to log back into the server
i have literally never played a game whose launch has been this much of a utter fuck up
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>>380787282
>I'm east coast so I can't play NIN anymore
What is there to even double-weave on NIN now? I feel like they stripped half the offGCDs in the game this expansion.
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>>380788929
>can't tell if a repeating line in the NIN story is a mistake or just Karasu being Karasu
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>>380789417
You havent played too many then
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>>380783741
>people still making threads about videogames on the /v/ideogames imageboard

take
the
hint
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>>380789331
Surely you're kidding? They didn't actually leave moonrunes in for the NA release, did they?
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>Shitty Canadian servers
HW was the smoothest mmo launch I've ever sene
>Superior Californian servers
SB crashes and burns within the first 30 minutes

Really makes you think.
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>>380789019
********UPDATE**********
1 PERSON IS THROUGH
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>>380789265
Ohohohohohoho konichiwa baka gaijn. Itsu rikeu oishii in ore mouthu desuwa
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>>380787925
They're only supposed to be, like, skilled mercenaries, though, maybe with the Echo too but as far as the story is concerned YOU the Warrior of Light are the only one who becomes an actual White Mage or the next Azure Dragoon, for instance
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How do you go from the mostly fine Heavensward to this fucking garbage launch?

Jew potions were a mistake.
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>>380789019
>>380789539
if you want to hear about unlucky

after spending an hour just to get into it, i got within 30 seconds of finishing this stupid quest when i got disconnected from the server

i'm beyond seething
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anyone done the new pvp yet? how much exp do you get for doing it now?
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>>380789630
>>380789534
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6/20 release masterace

thanks for beta testing the servers losers
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Why are they not simply taking the game down for 2-3 hours, fix their fucking server capacity and boot them up again. As it stands this shit is frustrating as fuck.
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THIS IS FUCKING ANNOYING BULLSHIT STOP DCING ME FUCK THIS SHIT YOSHI THIS IS 2017 WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT
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>mfw using a script to spam the start of the cutscene
It worked after 20 minutes.
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>>380789703
10-20% based on your place. It's pretty fucking good for leveling and more interesting than potd.
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>>380789265
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>disconnected 3 times in the same PoTD

Should I even bother queueing for another run?
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>>380789789
Do tell me, how does one "fix fucking server capacity"?
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>>380789828
Pshhh nothin personnel, kid
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>>380789789
They should take the game down and keep it down until they can add an actual duty queue for solo instances.
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>people actually called off work and prepared to poopsock early access
>mfw these server issues
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>>380789534
This is why you don't fix what's not broken
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>>380786915
>rez 10+ players
>save many times that from the brink of death
>one person has bothered to say thanks
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>>380789891
Reserve more instancing slots for the bottleneck at the cost of other instances (lolGuildhests).

They did it once awhile back for the initial light-grind on Nexus.
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>>380789306
You got access to the game, we didn't say access to the MSQ/
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>>380789983
They said if they did that it would crash the servers. Remember anon they're held together with glue and tape.
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>the game is literally playable
>worst launch
????
>>
So have people actually reached to the point where they show who actually dies and whatnot?

Or are the people saying <spoilers> dies still just dicking around?
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>>380789961
>People payed for the 100$ CE to stand in a fucking virtual line from reddit
>>
>SERVERS ISSUES ARE CAUSED BY MILLIONS OF PEOPLE TRYING TO ACCESS AT ONCE
i dont know why it took me so long to leave that discord, its literal reddddit tier
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>>380789968
>needing thanks for doing your role
shut the fuck up, healslut
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>>380789652
someone said that in /say chat earlier, that sucks. I just went and did crafting instead, but I ran out of materials for samurai swords and for some reason the node I needed didn't spawn, so now I'm just logging the fuck off

wasted day
>>
is anyone else getting 1.0 vibes from this expansion? Not saying the content or classes are bad, they're fun.

But I'm limited right now to doing boring ass potd for leveling SAM and RDM because it's impossible to get to the new content because of errors and d/c.

It feels like 1.0 levequests all over again.
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>>380789964
It was broken, but their response was not to fix it, but break it more
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>been playing all day
>haven't been DC'd once

That's what you get for playing on RP servers
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please look forward to it, kid
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>>380790131
Lyse dies and Yda isn't actually dead.
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>>380790160
im convinced that it's YOSHIP's way of saying "we don't want the tank/healer audience"
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>>380790116
Shame about the content you actually fucking paid for. I didn't pay to FATE grind and watch Redditors make virtual lines
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>>380790131
Can confirm Thancred dies to give you and Lyse a chance to escape from Zenos
It's the next major story beat if you ever get through the line
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>>380790190
i'm getting the vibe of a bunch of millennials freaking out over a rocky launch like its their first mmo
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>>380781773
I got in instantly despite the crowd and the queue
Whats the issue?
>>
>lower levels boring because hardly any skills to use
>higher levels now also boring because hardly any skills to use compared to before
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>>380789742
>doesn't get any of the free pre order bonuses
how are those grapes?
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*blocks your path*
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>>380790000
>>380790000
>You got access to the game
but you dont get access to the game
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>>380790374
most people aren't getting in instantly/at all
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>>380790190
No I don't, and I've played it, you are full of shit and probably gay.
>>
does any one know how to fix the logitech issue?
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>>380790348
What part don't you understand about HW launching fine, retard?
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>>380790308
Lyse dies? Cool, I couldn't stand that bitch anymore after she almost maimed Yugiri to death.
>>
ARR was far worse. Servers were capped at 5k players. They halted sales on the game digitally, you couldn't buy it at all until they raised the player capacity on the servers. Top post were people finding rare physically copies at Walmart. This aint nothing, I'm in the game and could be doing other stuff. Could.
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>>380790348
this isn't my first rodeo champ. Not expecting perfection, but I expect to fucking progress in an mmo!
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>>380790374
there is a main story quest instance early on which only has a certain number of slots available for each datacenter
also intermittent kicks
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>>380790342
A shame about Allisaie too, but I guess they wanted to start getting rid of the twins as well.
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>>380781773
Stop playing this garbage.
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>>380787439
Nigga, source?
>>
Anyone ever find out what new items they added to POTD bags?
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>>380790543
I probably will considering we probably won't even fucking make it to Garlemald until 7.0
>>
samurai is absolutely ridiculous in pvp, i love it
>>
What's faster for leveling via PvP, frontlines or feast?
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>>380790503
It's not like Alphinaud can complain though, he gets to be Hime samas personal foot scrubber now
>>
If this goes on any longer I'm legit gonna hit 70 before I get in
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>>380790489
it didnt though, it had its issues too. you'd remember them if you calmed down from the current issues to think back during last EA
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>>380782868
>looks cool
>plays like shit
Final Fantasy in a nutshell
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>>380781773
>tfw at home for most of summer because college student
>have dial up tier internet
>won't be able to play until next week
>population will have stabilized by then
Feels okay.
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>we are basically paying to be part of a server stress test
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>>380790543
>delays raid to compete with Stormblood
>people would literally rather stand in a virtual line than play WoW
>>
>tfw this was my only day off for a week
>>
>>380790748
After 20 minutes of failed logins the game played smoothly and had no meme bottleneck instance that stopped you from playing the MSQ.
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>tfw trying to rush through dragonsong war MSQs
>>
BYAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>
>>380790664
How's mch?
>>
So why hasn't there been any maintenance to fix these issues?
>>
>>380790735
people who've been pvping all day have to be close. Can you do your later job quests with just the first two areas unlocked though?
>>
Fap and nap or try to get into the MSQ again?
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>>380790896
>people
Who? The 200k faggots that didn't go back to WoW yet?

Meanwhile WoW has over 10x people playing it. A fucking 2004 game.

But hey you can swim now
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>>380791013
What issues? It works fine on my machine
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>>380791013
because everything is working as intended
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>>380787439
>posting the wrong image

I got u senpai
>>
>>380789438
It used to be IR+Kassatsu but I guess they removed IR
Did they not add shit to make up for it?
>>
THEY FUCKING RUINED SCH!!! REEeEeEeE!

Just kidding, it's not that bad.
>>
>about to hit 61 on SAM
>every job quest done
>get to cold steel MSQ
truly nice launch
guess I won't go for 30+ hours
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>>380791013
The gooks have told us it's working as intended. Basically the Chinese spambots have better treatment as they Guildhest farm than you as a paying subscriber.
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>>380790137
>MILLIONS
Why are FFXIV fags so delusional
>>
Things looked grim for us after Carteneau, didn't they?
>>
anyone figure out where you can buy the lvl 52 vendor gear?
>>
>>380791203
but then I had all my namedays at once and all was well
>>
>>380790472
> t. Yoshi P

how does his balls taste in your mouth anon? If this shit continues to happen during after actual release, then yeah it is 1.0 levels of fuck uppitery and we're back to dealing with SE's arrogance!

because literally forming a line to access new content in a theme park mmo which you can't progress further without is totally acceptable.

Enjoy your (You)!
>>
>>380791142
I think it's even more boring now, especially for trash it's fucking awful to play (in addition to being bad), but I haven't done any of the new stuff with it yet due to the issues
>>
>>380791237
weebtown
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Wasn't Gates of Discord's launch pretty shitty back in the day? Then again I doubt a majority of nu-/v/ even played EQ in its prime.
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>DRK main
>can't play, friend is playing
>he off-mains DRK
>they removed Dark Dance, the most satisfying CD
>they removed Reprisal and Scourge, two skills with the coolest animations
>>
>>380790846
>literally every mmo expansion or release ever

but it's understandable, why the fuck would you go overboard on servers when it will steady out in a week or two and they will become redundant wasted money
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>>380791203
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>>380791071
>reeeeeeeeing this hard that people aren't playing your game
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>>380791269
this has been happening in XI
this shit has been happening in 1.0
this shit has been happening in ARR
this shit has been happening in HW
why are you so fucking surprised by it NOW?
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>>380781773
THIS FISHMAN SON OF A WHORE SLAPS YOUR WAIFU'S ASS IN THE HOSTELRY

HOW DO YOU REACT?
>>
>>380782902
I don't remember TOR, WoW or Wildstart not allowing you to play further than 40 minutes into the game.
>>
>>380791320
enjoy spamming soul eater for 2 years

that's IF they give you another combo
>>
>>380791118
>light top heavy bottom

my fave
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Don't worry linebros you aren't missing much.
>>
>japanese servers also has problems with cold steel
I guess 3 data centers didn't help
>>
>>380791337
Maybe you've heard but people aren't playing Stormblood either
>>
>>380791327
I don't think they have to actually buy or even rent physical ones, can't you just rent virtual space temporarily?
>>
>>380791059
You can, I've already done the 63 and 65 bard quest despite not having done the raubahn instance.
>>
Didn't they say they dropped PS3 support this expansion, or not yet? Because character models still are several orders of magnitude inferior to FFXIV 1.0, and by now we should have at least caught up to that version released in like 2010.
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>>380782171
>and this is the most popular mmorpg which isn't wow
Is the name Final Fantasy enough to sell this shit?
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>>380791450
If JP are having problems expect fixes soon.
>>
>>380783052
Same exact thing. Issues with instancing for a solo part of the MSQ.

>>380783115
It wasn't nearly as bad as this disaster right now.
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>>380781773
Weeks ago, one of you fags was saying that Stormblood will be bringing GW1-like PvP. Was I rused?
>>
anyone that doesn't think this early access was a beta test of sorts is delusional
>>
>>380791008
>less burst than bard
>no dots
>no way to reliably proc BtE's cc requirement now that the graze skills are out of PvP
>wildfire still as useless as ever in PvP
they're not looking pretty good.
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>>380791203
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>>380791578
no, every pvper knew stormblood would ruin pvp
>>
>PvP SAM
>no gap closer
>no ranged attack
>no stun
>cast bars on half its shit
Right then how the fuck am I supposed to kill anything
>>
Im tired of clicking on raubahn
>>
FIRST THEY TELL ME TO CALM DOWN ABOUT WHITE MAGE, NOW THEY'RE TELLING ME THE SERVER IS WORKING AS INTENDED WHEN ITS CLEARLY NOT.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. FUCK YOU YOSHI-P
>>
>>380791142
Nah they really did

It feels foreign to me now they got rid of a lot
>>
>>380791610
Heavensward early access was nowhere near this bad.
>>
>>380781773
>worst
You wernt there for the Archeage launch.
I was.
It was not pleasant.
This launch after a few hiccups I was playing the game.
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>http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/791aac7206bf8db4b353b687c3221440dd7b8156
LOL
>>
RDM is fun
>>
>>380791387
XI can be forgiven, because it wasn't theme park trash. I stood in line for like 30 minutes to get my adventuring fellow NPC not because I couldn't do anything else to progress, but because I wanted to. XIV continues down this bland, safest MMO ever route and still has these issues, which is a more noticeable issue.
>>
>>380791294
where
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>>380791442
A man of taste
>>
>>380782171
That actually looks really neat. Can anyone do this qte or do tanks cuck everyone out of the action?
>>
I just looked, and it seems that crafting is still using the old cross-class skill system.
What bullshit is this. I just want to make me some new shirts and pants, not grind 8 different classes to 70.
>>
>>380791313
My memories of EQ are pretty faded but I remember launches of kunark and velious being shit and luclin and planes of power being fine.

Quit after PoP though
>>
>>380791727
I dropped it almost immediately the double meter management seemed boring
>>
>>380791387
bullshit! HW was nowhere near this bad and are you serious about XI?! XI was literally unlock fucking job quest and go grind!

Stop defending this shit!
>>
>>380791313
>Gates of Discord's
>EQ's prime

Is this a joke?

This came out the same year WoW did. You're pretty much a WoW-fag.
>>
>>380782171
why are people upset this
this is cool as hell
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>>380791387
FFXIV railroads you into the MSQ so there's no excuse for it not to work. I probably will go back to XI if this keeps up for another day.
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>>380791462
>people aren't playing
>that's why they are standing in line and dealing with congestion instead of playing WoW
>>
>>380791142
Theres nothing to do for 80% of a fight in AoE besides Broil.
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thank you for the 40$
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>>380791901
>>380791936
this shit has been going on for 20 years in square MMOS
STOP BEING SURPRISED
>>
>>380791724
"Just calm down"
>>
>>380791617
Well fuck, the only other ranged I have is smn
Guess I'll try rdm as my pvp job
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>>380791724
>If you are unable to enter instanced battle content, we ask you to please wait and try again at a later time.
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>>380791974
>poorfags didn't buy collectors edition
>>
>>380791640
There's that one spammable move that's like 15 yalm range.
There's also that one move that uses Kenki that's a rush move.
>>
>>380791974
Y-you too
>>
>>380791881
Is crafting even worthwhile, I stopped so many months ago when their lazy design choice of pure vertical progression and garbage materia melding made crafted armor largely useless.
>>
>>380792087
>we ask you to please wait and try again at a later time

How much later, what like the 20th? SO what was the point of EA YOSHI
>>
Cuckshed inhabitants:
>DRK
>SMN
>MNK
>WHM
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>didnt want to play samurai or rdm because i didnt want to waste hours in potd on launch day
>instead im wasting hours trying to get through this fucking msq
>>
cat girl genocide when
>>
>>380792326
Just do PVP and level up to 70
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>>380792216
I think there has been times when crafted gear has been good also end game foods are useful, but mostly not.
I'm in it just for glamours and maybe furnishing.
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>>380792297
>not sticking with the nerfed classes to be OP when they give a compensation buff
>>
>>380792406
for ala mhigo
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whats the point of this line?
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>Oh man this is the worst MMO launch ever! Nothing compares to being unable to progress through the MSQ!

Selective memory much? Do you faggots not remember 2.0 launch when you couldn't log in because there was a cap of about 3,000 people per server and there was no auto AFK kicker so people could just AFK while at work/sleeping to stay online?

Do you faggots not remember WoD launch when the quest to build your Garrison was broken for days, and you needed it to do ANYTHING else in the expansion?

This is par for the course and it's not even that fucking bad. You can still play the game for the mostpart.
>>
What people listening to while on that raubahn grind?
>>
>Sam can't wear hawkliege
instantly ruined the whole
>>
>>380791920
Yeah I realized that was a shit statement after posting it, but I was still a dumb kid by the time it rolled around so I didn't notice any major problems.
>>
>>380792621
YOOOOOOO
>>
I think the problem is that there are too many open instances.
>>
>>380792150
How the fug did I not realize Enpi was Enpi. Still fucking pathetic to watch though.
>>
>>380792601
None. People can't understand basic thought processes. What good is the line going to do if theres roughly a fixed amount of people cutting line at all times?
>>
>>380792601
people think it does something, it doesn't.
>>
Is now a good time to start playing for the first time? Do i have to get the expansion immediately? Also what classes are op
>>
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>>380792447
That's so depressing. I remember to this day my elation in crafting a Haubergeon +1 in FFXI, and because the developers gave a modicum of a shit about crafters in that game, I was able to use it as a very good body piece for like a fucking year. Item levels and other shit like that was such a critical mistake, why would you trivialize your content months after it is released, I just don't get modern MMOs.
>>
>still no MCH footage

REEEEEE
>>
>>380792619
>being this whipped
You paid money for this, anon...
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>Like RDM
>Really want to glamour to look like a BLU

I know I will eventually but I need to try and stay Red.
>>
>>380792786
Wait a couple of days.
>>
JUST DO OTHER SHIT YOU RETARDS
DO PVP
DO POTD
DO OLD RAIDS AND DUNGEONS
DO GOLD SAUCER
DO FATES IN NEW AREAS
RESPECT THE CONTENT
>>
>>380792798
MCH is fine, I'm at 63 now and it works well enough. Kinda annoyed that ammo doesn't generate heat though.
>>
>>380792619
Also better than the many many MMO launches that included queues, buggy as shit games, and literally crashing servers.
>>
>>380792601
Idiots think it will work. It would only work if you got all servers in a data center to get in a line.
>>
Guild Wars 2 had a flawless expansion launch. The servers never even went down. Just, here's your big patch, baby.
>>
Fellow BRDs, tell me, should I use raging strikes on Army's Paeon or on Wanderer's Minuet, seems like Army is the logical choice but I'm retarded so I don't trust my own judgement
>>
>>380791936
Meanwhile FFXI railroads you into Ambuscade which only has 5 instances available at any given time.
>>
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>>380792601
>unironically being a linecuck
>>
>>380792839
It's just what happens nearly every single time with popular new releases in this genre. It's cool when it -doesn't- happen but you learn to expect it.
>>
why do adders always win in pvp
why does maelstrom suck so much
>>
>>380792873
respect the content by not doing it
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>>380792601
They just want to remember better days.
>>
>>380792873
if you didn't get dc'd every minute then it wouldn't be a problem.
>>
>>380792787
Because many people don't do stuff just to do stuff, they need the carrots, better gear is the carrot.
Do content to get gear so you can do content of the next patch.

Without that people would just do every new dungeon, trial and raid once, maybe couple of times and then be done with it.
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>tfw no anata gf
>>
nothin personnel
>>
>>380793034
>can actually see the player occupying the arena behind the fort doing the fight
>>
>>380792987
it depends on how quickly you get the stacks up for army. If you can get it maxed with 20 seconds left use it then.
>>
>>380793005
On my server it used to be always Mael winning with flames sometimes sneaking a win, and addercucks always at the bottom. Somehow it's gone all bizzaro world and Adders keep winning.
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I spent the majority of my play time floating waiting for any updates on whether or not this shit was fixed. RDM and SAM are fun, I like RDM a lot more though. New QoL changes are nice, I love the expanded inventory. Even though I've only heard something like 4 tracks, the new music is great as always, but the zones I'm not too into at the moment, Peaks and Fringes both just seem similar, although I assume that will change. I saw people complaining about how PVP is ruined or some shit, but I actually like it, although it is a lot less skill intensive to a point where its almost braindead, though that could be cause I only did Frontline and not Feast, which I want to try later when I decide to play again. Hopefully this shit gets sorted out soon, cause its really hindering so much.
>>
why don't they just have emergency maintenance?

This will also stop the faggots who got past to stop getting even further ahead
>>
>>380791640
>no ranged attack
??
pretty sure you have one
I've gotten killed by it. Whatever that shockwave shit it is
>>
So far i'm very disappointed in the new zones, i dont even feel like i'm in new zones
>>
>>380793173
Because nothings broken, it's just designed shitily and we're too late to change that
>>
>Highly anticipated MMO expansion with loads of people
>WAHH WAHH WHY ARE THE SERVERS CRAP

You dont get the firs thing about servers. do you?
It's like a thousand dicks trying to enter your arsehole at the same time.
>>
Give me suggestions for what to watch/listen to while I grind pvp
>>
>>380792967
Yeah it was fine because it only had grind gates to finish the 2 hour story and all the content LMAO
>>
Transfer to dead server -> Do MSQ -> Transfer back
>>
>Hit 62 on MNK
>Playing around with chakra procs
>Only using around 150 tp a minute
>Can restore 700 every 2 minutes
Holy shit SS MNK is real.
>>
>>380792873
That way you can finish the quest right, nice try
>>
>>380793316
Legion's launch was fine,Morrowind was fine, even Heavensward was fine. Suck a million dicks.
>>
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>>380793053
Is there any way to get back the magic of the golden age of MMOs, or is that forever lost? I'm just a retarded old man at this point, I can't figure out what XI did that circumvented this treadmill nonsense, but I wish some game would have the balls to try it just once more. I loved XIV 1.0 despite its glaring flaws because it at least tried to be unique.
>>
>>380793005
Freelancers from Mael getting put on Adders side
>>
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>>380793249
I like the first Doma area.
>>
>all these default gear samurai in PotD
I don't remember joining Organization XIII
>>
>The combo bonus "Absorbs 50% of damage dealt as HP" has been changed to "Absorbs a portion of damage dealt as HP."
what
>>
>>380793559
it put you on a treadmill you preferred
>>
>>380793053
It's not just that. "Doing stuff to do stuff" isn't just people wanting to 'see the content,' as the content in an MMO is usually nothing really remarkable.
It's that you get to do stuff with your buddies, whom you met in the game. That's what really drew people in.

These days people are much more antisocial, it seems. The person who plays an MMO to play it by himself should be seen as a weirdo who is defeating the purpose of the game, not the average player.
>>
>finally got past Raubahn's Wall
See you on the other side friends
>>
>>380793559
>what XI did
Making everything a grind
>>
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>log on
>check my NIN
>no mutilate
>shadow fang is the end of a 123
>all off gcd buffs gone
What the fuck?
So I just 123123123 now?
>>
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>>380793320
Depends on what job you're playing.
>mfw listening to the MGR soundtrack while playing SAM
It's perfect.
>>
>>380793741
>been at this for 3 hours nonstop
Only the dead and lucky can know peace from this suffering.
>>
>>380793810
ninja was too complex please understand
>>
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>>380793849
>he doesn't know how to write a script
>>
Anyone playing on ps4 that had their main menu and npc dialogue boxes fucked with? I can't seem to find an option to make them bigger.
>>
what level is the first SB dungeon?
>>
>>380793663
I think it's still 100% in souleater's case. I'm healing a fuckton more with dark arts.
>>
>>380793924
61, drops 260 greens
>>
>>380793836
MCH. I'd rather watch a show or listen to people talk, instead of music though
>>
How fucked would I be raiding in WoW, playing this and having a job?
>>
>try to finish grind out the last bit of HW
>getting thrown in with randoms who haven't even read the instances ahead of time
>try to explain each encounter
>they fuck up everytime

This is what I get. This is what I get for taking a break and thinking I'll able to to grind it out quickly.
>>
>>380794000
extremely
>>
>tfw cracking a cold steel one with the boys
>>
>>380794000
Since you have to ask, fucked.
>>
>Stop everyone from progressing the MSQ
>So SAM and RDM fags can reach level 60 and fuck up dps queue times for SB content
Fucking madman
>>
>>380793960
damn, i cant even get past msq to unlock it lmao
>>
>>380794000
Depends what you mean by raiding in WoW.
>>
can you go underwater in costa del sol
>>
>>380794000
Depends on how hardcore you plan to go im wow. mythics raids are soul consuming right now but heroic/normal are a complete joke.
>>
>>380794132
I got me some crown 7 to drink while dealing with this raubahn shit.
>>
>>380794198
Pretty casual, just doing heroics and dipping into mythic if possible.
>>
>>380791142

half my skills are missing
>>
>>380794078
>taking a break from a mmo
>>
>>380793720
>It's that you get to do stuff with your buddies, whom you met in the game. That's what really drew people in.
That's like the people who say that system doesn't matter in tabletop rpgs. Just because you can have fun with friends even with bad game, it doesn't make a bad game not bad, it just means that spending time with friends is fun.
>>
>>380781773

>Worst launch

Yeah being stuck by this one quest is really shitty, but at least most of the rest of the game is still playable. Want to talk bad launches, look at Vanguard Saga of Heroes launch, one of the worst I've ever seen.
>>
I thought you got to keep you skills in lower level dungeons now?
why did I just have shit taken off my mch hotbar in titan hard?
>>
i don't know what the fuck is going on in pvp
>>
>>380792967
Main HoT story is at least a ten-hour affair. I would know: I've finished it on three characters. All fully ascended.
>>
Gonna go sleep and they better have fixed this shit when i wake up
>>
>>380794291
if you're not progression mythic raiding you're not tied to WoW at all in terms of time spent
>>
>>380793905
can you upload it
>>
>>380793810
Instead of
Huton-1-2-3-DoT-1-DoT-1-2-3-1-2-ArmorCrush
it's now just
Huton-1-2-4-1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-5
>>
>>380794420
>Believing fake leaks
>>
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>not hiding in some bushes for hours with Rauhbahn
>>
>>380794364
Then I'll just come out and say it: old MMOs were bad. They played like shit, they had very little world building or story, and they were largely grind simulators with a chatroom.

But people played them anyway because they were an easy way to connect with other people from all over the world.
>>
>>380794559
Can I add you as well?
>>
>>380794497
all the optimization around bfb/ir placement regarding where you want it to fall off is just gone
jesus christ there is no optimization anymore, there are new off gcd attacks but there's no thought involved for them
>>
>>380787439
Sauce me brah, i'm begging you
>>
>>380791974
Not out of my pocket. I used steam bucks
>>
>YOU CAN RIGHT CLICK TO REMOVE A HUD FROM THE SCREEN

HOW LONG HAS THIS BEEN A FEATURE
>>
I just got all jobs to 70 and people are stilll queuing.
>>
>>380794225
no its new areas only
>>
>>380792873
>do FATEs anywhere
>DC
>Do PotD
>DC
>Do PVP
>No
>Do Dungeons
>DC
>Do GS
>DC
>Respect the content
>DC
>>
>>380795262
Always.
>>
>>380795262
Since 2.0
>>
>>380795284
awh, ty though
>>
New thread where?
>>
>>380795368
Right after I clear raubahn
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