Ex-Konami employees can't put their years of experience

Thats what almost all JP companies do.
Its considered treason to leave your company and you are considered someone with no honor that is not trustworthy if you do it.

>>380723119
Based.

Op probably steals games and does illegal weed.

>>380723119
All companies should do this though.

>>380723712
Are Japanese employers so dumb that when they see missing time on someone's CV they don't think 'this man must be a dishonourable job-switcher trying to hide his previous employment' and instead think 'well that seems perfectly normal to have a huge gap there, makes sense to me, no point even bringing it up during the interview or anything.'

>>380723839
>>380724059
go away konami

>>380723119

Remember in old jap games the credits would be gibberish? That's because Japanese companies would literally keep their employees secret to the extent they weren't even allowed credit for the games they made.

It's not Konami corporate culture we are seeing here, it's Japanese corporate culture. That country is fucking shit.

>>380724157
>>380724178
Fuck off communist scum

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I guess this is one of the reasons why JP project leads stamp their name over everything to do with the games they are releasing.

>>380724219
>employees working for a company belong to said company and don't deserve work if they change to a different company

Oy vey, I wonder who could be behind this post

>>380724219
>you're literally a communist if you don't support abusive corporate practices

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>Ex-Konami employees can't put their years of experience with the company on their resumes or Konami will sue
how could this in any way even go through, sounds like bullshit
>so anon what happend between these years here, were you unemployed, a neet?

As much as I love Jap games, that country needs some changes with its work ethics.

>>380724342

No, that's ego. Most normal people in the industry understand it's a collaborative process and no single person ever deserves credit for a game. Kojima is just a dick.

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I don't see a problem here

Sounds like they're just not giving positive recommendations. Almost as if Kojima Productions was a giant black hole of money.

If this is the job environment in Japan I'm not surprised that there are more neets and such.
Sounds brutal.

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>>380724542

>>380724704
Don't give him any more (You)s, he gets off on that. Just ignore the corporate shill

Konami did nothing wrong.

>The approach is bringing solid results. Konami is on track to post a record group operating profit of 40 billion yen for the year ending in March 2018. Industry insiders are often in awe of Konami's ability to make games once played on TV screens work on smartphones.

If it works, it works.

>>380724059
haha fuck OFFFFFFFFFFFFF

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>>380723119
That is some vile shit right there

It's not japanese culture, salaryman expectations have been dying out and early game companies like Konami are infested with yakuza ties. (just about all big ones except Nintendo are)
Note that Konami is infamous for this bullshit in Japan as well.

>>380724542
you shouldn't want a hugbox

How could you even sue over someone saying they worked for you? It's not like there's a law against that.
This shit doesn't even make sense.

>>380725278
Corporate lawyers find a way
There's a reason they get paid six figures

>>380725278

Is Japanese justice system copied from Burgerland where anyone can sue anyone for any reason, and you're better off just killing yourself on the spot, unless you're able to wage a 10-year war of bureaucracy and burn half a billion dollars on lawyers to prove you were innocent? And then repeat the war to get compensated.

>>380723119
>it was kojima fault

>>380723712
No it isn't. The length Konami goes to are not the norm.

KONAMI DID NOTHING WRONG

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>>380725127
>early game companies like Konami are infested with yakuza ties. (just about all big ones except Nintendo are)
LOL
OLO
LOL

Search "Hiroshi Yamauchi Yakuza" and get back to us on that one.

Why does everyone whitewash and lie about Nintendo so much. So fucking much.

Last I checked, Konami was throwing their weight around to prevent Kojima's new studio from getting health insurance and sending C&Ds to him left and right.

Konami seems batshit insane.

How would such a lawsuit even have grounds to win in court?

>>380728645

Doesn't have to. Companies like Konami just bury you in legal fees.

>>380723119
But fucking why? It seems like a lot of effort just to piss people off
How do they profit from this?

>>380728763
So no one leaves

>>380728763

>ensure that any employees who leave are unemployable so they have no choice but to stay with the company
>you now have full control over their work hours and pay
>you also don't have to bother attempting to attract new employees with superior working conditions

>>380728374

Isn't any wonder now why Kojima vacated Japan for America.

>>380728745
What fees, though? What kind of court doesn't just toss this out? I mean even if you literally had no attorney and just showed up, how are they gonna justify punishment for putting your previous work experience in your resume?

God damn I'd kill myself if I worked in Japan.

My job is lax as fuck and I still hate it.

If that's how Japan handles shit it's no wonder Capcom is having a fucking civil war instead of a mass exodus.

>>380728807
>>380728881
Still seems counterproductive to coerce people forcibly to stay rather than creating an environment where they want to stay

>use a slightly strict work regime for optimal revenue
>nu-males bawl their eyes out because they wanted to work on video games instead of having a real job

Konami is based af.

>>380724219
Japanese work culture seems to be pretty close to communism

>All the edgy fags in this thread saying Konami is based
I hope they go under

>>380729179
Side with the obvious villain for replies

It's just shitposting, pay no attention.

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>All these commies ITT talking about """unethical business practices""""
surely the market will fix this

Is Konami run by the Yakuza?

>>380724484
if you change something that ingrained in the culture the products would suffer you massive cuck

>>380729425
well yes, konami will go bankrupt eventually, so yeah, market will fix it

>>380723119
I would love to see Kojima's CV, and see if Konami has the guts to "write him a letter"

>>380728997
You have to make sacrifices and compromises to create an environment where employees want to stay. Konami has created a hostile environment where they can exploit their employees any way they want without repercussion. It's disgusting, but it's not going to change unless they are suddenly forced to pay enormous sums of money as compensation by a court.

If it is well known that konami does this kind of bullshit than why didn't they went under ages ago due to not being able to get new employees?

>>380729776
They already did after that MG Survive debacle. Apparently Konami is willing to take him onto court if he says another negative thing about the game.

>>380728979
>it's no wonder Capcom is having a fucking civil war instead of a mass exodus
What's Capcom doing?

>>380729110
t. Konami

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>>380724514
I for one support taking all the credit.

>>380723119

Beyond all the controversy and questions of civil liberties and legality you have to ask...

What type of person enacts this type of shit?

This is tragedy of the commons except you also burn 90% of the grass in an attempt to get a market advantage.

>>380723119
How did Treasure and Good Feel even manage to get formed?

>>380728937
They're probably forced to have a lawyer to "defend" themselves.

>>380723119
>willing to take them to court
For what

>>380730995
>What type of person enacts this type of shit?

The kind of person we need to have a good old revolution about to remove them from positions of power while telling future leaders, "It's not okay to do what the last person did."

>>380730316
>What's Capcom doing?

There are claims about a deep split at capcom. Major clashes of ideologies as to how to make games and where to take the company.
There were reports some years ago about the absolutely abysmal working conditions at capcom. Harassment of workers, slavery-like pressure and Ono, I think, even suffered a heart attack. At least he had to go to hospital because of some heart issues.

Combine that with the things we know about the Capcom CEO and the idea that capcom is dying from the inside is more than likely.

Konami won't die anytime soon cause even if they kill off their entire software branch they will still rake in money with their pachinko machines.

>>380731278
Didn't Ono go to the hospital because he collapsed from exhaustion?

>>380731278
all this nonsense in one post

you're so fucking stupid, people will actually take this for granted and repeat it

fuck off from /v/

>>380724059
Explain.

>>380724434
Welcome to the new americana

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>>380731456
I wonder who could be behind this post

What the hell is wrong with Konami?
Even for a Nip company they've gone a mile over the usual.

>>380731115

>Your honor, the defendant has committed SHAMEFURU DISPRAY after leaving our company by daring to keep living, causing us to lose face
>NO WAY FUCKING HANG THE BASTARD

>>380729179
Konami was one of the greatest videogame companies of all time,right now they are barely even a shadow of their former self.

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>>380729450
Maybe not "run" by it, like the CEO and boardmembers probably aren't, but I would imagine the majority of the share is owned by a yakuza family firm, or by banks that they firm owns, and board members and the CEO have to go to dinner at a Yakuza bosses house occasionally. There's not a bunch of yakuza tough guys in an office making the decisions, but ultimately the company will always serve the interest of the family or families it supports.

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>>380731763
Makes sense to me.
GUILTY

>>380728229
>Why does everyone whitewash and lie about Nintendo so much. So fucking much.
Just ask anyone how Gunpei Yokoi died. Nobody will say it was a motor "accident"

You pour money and your own, jealously guarded know-how into your employees you dont want them to lmao go to another company and apply your philosophy

They should have employment contracts for their employees where you have to pay like $500,000 if you quit the company and work for another within 15 years that would solve this issue

Well I guess the takeaway here is don't work for Konami.

>>380731948
Usually they launder money through arcades and sketchy financial records like Bamco does.

>>380732202
Thank fuck you're stuck on /v/ and will never surmount to anything with your fucking retarded ideas.

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>>380732191

>>380723839
>>380724059
/pol/ retards who have never had a job

>>380723119
>Ex-Konami employees can't put their years of experience with the company on their resumes or Konami will sue.


because koji-pro fags were talking shit about konami. kojima plays innocent but hes been starting just as much shit.

>>380723119
literally neo-feudalism

>>380732602
>because koji-pro fags were talking shit about konami

Apparently rightfully so.

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>>380723119

American companies have no unions, give shit tier wages and treat most of their employees like shit. What is so different?

https://mic.com/articles/104848/the-absurdity-of-how-walmart-treats-employees-in-one-viral-thanksgiving-photo#.s35cYLZn8

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>>380730316
Nothing, they're more interested in their MMO business than say, the main market out there.
If MHW fails, they have Frontier to fall back on. Which means they are free to Frontierfy Anjanath and Jagras as they please.

>>380732453
Thank you blessed phone poster for believing what they want you to believe.

Remember, at this point, he had made the GameBoy line which was the only thing keeping Nintendo afloat after they started hemorrhaging money left, right, and centre with the N64 and Yokoi's failed Virtual Boy. Then, Yokoi decides to leave, go to Bandai, and develop the WonderSwan, which Bandai somehow got Square on-board with to remake their early Famicom Final Fantasy titles on it.

Meanwhile, Yokoi was the big dog when it came to video games at Nintendo. Yamauchi was very hands off when it came to them, and preferred to let Yokoi run the show since he didn't really understand video games. Then one day, Yamauchi suddenly decides he does understand video games, starts undermining Yokoi, rushed his Virtual Boy to launch before it was finished, hints at him to resign over his failures, etc.

Yamauchi having the Yakuza kill Yokoi has been an open secret for years, my dude.

>>380732903
Nobody is trying to point out a difference. Walmart is terrible too.

>>380725127
>except Nintendo
>this delusion

>>380732932
Holy shit
Tamio looks like the only one that actually enjoys video games.
The other three look like villains

>>380732506
Leftists are the ones who don't want to work and support destroying businesses.

Go away with your pol bogeyman.

>>380728997
>Still seems counterproductive
It werks >>380724861

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>>380731189
>revolution
You don't want revolution in Japan.

>>380733267
He is most evil one

How is this even legal?

>>380723712
No, it's not. It was the norm a few decades ago to stay with your company for life, but most modern companies have moved away from that and Konami is extreme no matter how you look at it.

>>380733267
>Capcom Directors
No I'm pretty sure they're all evil, thanks

>>380723119
Does this ever explains why they enjoy raping their franchises?

>>380734469
Yes
They are dicks who enjoy making people miserable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MekevQpgNmk

>>380732506
/pol/ hates jobless welfare leeches you fucking idiot

>>380733271
>>380734859
Yeah it's the leftists who support big corporations.

>>380733472
>japan
>capable of doing anything against a nuclear force
lmao

>>380723119
If they tried that here they would be the ones getting sued and would lose. Why are Japs so weak?

>>380734859
Sounds more like jealousy. Seriously /pol/ is nothing but edgy teens who never even had a job.

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>>380735572
>what is anime

This is why Yugioh is shit

>>380732976
How does the timing of that make any sense to you? The guy he was with made him rear end a truck, trusting that it wouldn't be serious enough to kill him as a passenger, but it would be serious enough for Yokoi to exit the car at exactly the right time for some random tourism employee who's also apparently a paid yakuza hitman and skilled stunt driver to hit him? That makes more sense to you than someone accidentally hitting a random dude walking on the narrow highway shoulder at night? If he "killed himself" I wouldn't have trouble believing it and I don't doubt nintendo has yakuza connections, but as it is it would've been a wildly unreliable murder method.

>>380735698
This is true.

>>380723119
>Believing unnamed sources on the web
Is /v/ really that gullible?

>>380736470
t. citizen of the US(SR)A.

>>380734859
And yet most of the board are jobless NEETs. Its nothing but projecting, like when some virgin calls someone else a fucking loser.

>>380723119
So the real Yakuza run gaming business was konami this whole time? Makes sense why they're all in on pachinko right now.

>>380723119
Why do you think Kojima moved to USA.
That shit is illegal.

>>380736819
Reminder that Kimi is (actual)Yakuza and had Gunpei killed.

>>380736762
>And yet most of the board are jobless NEETs
Um pal this is not r9k, most people are normal here.

>>380737509
You're right. /pol/ aren't jobless NEETs, they're normie teenagers.

>>380732453
I mean if you read it it kind of falls in line with ops post.

Mysterious car crash only after he left nintendo after failing hard.

>>380737068
>Kojima moved to USA
nigger what

>>380734859

>I'm not a welfare leech, I just borrow my mom's money!

>>380723712
It's not normal for konami to do this.

>>380724459
It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation isn't it.

>>380724059
Clearly you've never had a job.

>>380731763
The sad part is how accurate this is.

>>380739615
It's a we-need-a-killing-spree situation.

>>380723119
I'm pretty sure this would be highly illegal in a free country

>>380740527
Free countries have much tighter regulations on their businesses.

>>380728229
You're a massive retard. That's an urban legend. When the Super Famicom originally shipped they had to hire armed guards to prevent yakuza people from stealing the truck loads and selling them on the black market.

>>380724861
Source?

>>380741560
Are you serious right now?

>>380728937
Essentially think of it like this, they are big enough that they will find something wrong. Even if they spend over a year going through you're trash trying to find a morsel they will, and worse case situation might even plant a employee or make up something

>>380741010
>prevent yakuza people from stealing the truck loads and selling them on the black market.
Yeah because the Yakuza are made up of one singular collective apparently.

>they had to hire armed guards
And who do you think those armed guards were employed by?

>>380741010
Japan has yakuza in most business until recently.

It was common in the 80s to funnel money and have connections in Puroresu and then MMA in the 00s. Even Sumo.

Early Sony would have to had Yazuka helping them start up.

>>380723119
Japan is a dystopian hellhole, why do you think they create all those post apocalyptic manga and anime? It's a reflection of their actual reality.
What else is new?

>>380743446
It explains all the cute girls doing cute things. I don't blame them. Reality was a mistake.

>>380732202
wew, lad.
>>38074317
kawaii and hentai is the only way the japanese person can survive another day and not just go on a rampage or kill themselves.
I once had the notion I would learn jap and maybe move there, find a qt asian girl, but now I know that is an unatainable fantasy, japan is a shithole.

>>380743446
tbf America's not much better.

>>380723119
>sign contract
>wonder why you're bound to said contract
fucking contracts, how do they work?!

>>380744503
idiot.

>>380729171
>I don't understand Communism: the post.

>>380744876
Do you really expect anyone on /v/ to know what Communism is?

>trusting gooks
>trusting gooks when you are a gook
>being a gook

>>380744153
There are many aspects about Japan that make it a wonderful place to live and there are many aspects that make it shithole. Honestly, you just need to have realistic expectations about a place to really appreciate what it has to offer and not romanticize every little thing.

>>380745079
spooked

>>380745079
chinks are the ones you worry about.
Konami are just senile yakuza.

>>380745341
Chinks are impressively dickish.

>>380745413
i honestly believe whatever made us spliced a cockroach with a human and thats the chinese.
The two are eerily similar.
the chinks need culled, massively.

>>380745593
The Chinks are the true master race. You are like a lonely little amoeba, unknowing of your imminent swarming by virus.

>>380745684
t. xin xin hao chen

>>380745684
Shut up Xiao Tang.

>>380738007
Which is MUCH more respectable honestly

>>380735572
>he doesn't know abou Objects

Oh boy you're in for rude wake up

>>380745684
Chinks poison the land and treat humans like they're an inanimate resource. Some master race. Bug bomb yourselves out of existence already.

>>380746849
Its not.

>>380746849
This. Welfare leeches don't do anything except pay for some bureaucrat. Mummy leaches actively damage their relationships and stunt emotional growth, and I think that's worth something.

>>380748232
It is

>>380745162
every aspect of japan that is good can be experienced remotely (anime, manga, some games if that's your thing) or just by visiting for short period (nature, history, etc.).

>>380724514
They're ultimately Kojima's games though and he never misses a chance to compliment his team

>>380749546
This is true if you're looking to experience those things in a very detached manner. If you're looking to actually immerse you're self in another culture/environment, taking the bad with the good is usually necessary.

>>380750584
Unless you wanna lobotomise yourself by pretending you're still back home when you're not.

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>Falling for the ruse
Holyshit kill yourselves. I bet you moron think Kojima was actually fired.
This is just a way to promote their products. Everyone in Konami is doing fine.

>>380729452
>Konami starts making good games again if their corporate culture is restructured
the horror

>>380723119
All the better reason for Konami vs Capcom to happen.

>>380729919
Pachinko

>>380750839
unironically this

How do they plan on getting more employees if the working conditions are so poor?

>>380750692
That is to imply that where you're living right now is better inherently and not because you're already comfortable with all the bullshit that exist in your environment. At the end of the day, different strokes (and lobotomies) for different folks.

>>380751785
I'm talking about people who go to Japan or Spain or whatever and live in small little expat communities and barely learn the language and God I hate them.

Survive day 1 buy.

>>380729590
>he thinks Konami will go bankrupt
Go take a look at what they do in Japan and say that again.

>>380751904
Oooooh, I see now. I apologize for the misunderstanding. Canada has the same problem with Chinese and Filipinos in major cities and with the way things are getting, it's only going to get worse.

>>380752323
It's very common whenever large amounts of X country go to Y country. It's often compounded by other factors -- Brits all want to go to the sunny/scenic beaches in Spain, Pakis all want the cheap places in big cities in the UK.

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>>380723119

how can a company sue you for saying you worked for them?
why is this even a thing?

The rest of the world shoulf adopt japanese business practices. We'd be more efficient.

>>380752937
No, japan is stagnant

>>380752937
>Being a cuck
No thanks

>>380753179
>being a lazy inefficient employee

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>>380723119
>these people are in charge of silent hill and metal gear

>>380751513
They outsource a lot iirc.

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>>380752937
this
NEETs will always answer with ''I cannot say''

>>380733967
This still happens frequently especially in big companies, old companies and companies that are in competitive markets.

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>>380752937
Japan?

Step up nigga.

>>380751513
>>380753337
I know a bit about the Japanese industry especially the industries I have an interest on like anime and It is a an open secret that most animes are outsourced and are done by Koreans or flips.

>>380753538
China is the only country in the world that deserves robots to replace men in everysinglejob

>>380724219
Fuck off Hirohito you lost the war. Your culture is garbage and the sooner we take it over and Americanize it the better off your people will be.

>>380723119

Thats not even the worst part: ex-Konami employees can't even get Health insurances because the chairman of the council who permits health insurances is also the CEO of Konami.

So its just childish behaviour at this point. No wonder developers are leaving in droves, if this is the kind of petty shit they have to deal with.

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>>380754613

There's being scummy and then there's just being a faggot, and that's being a faggot.

>>380753538

>hard-working chinese.

https://aeon.co/essays/what-chinese-corner-cutting-reveals-about-modernity

Theres a reason why "Chinese quality product" is still a meme even to this day after 60 years. They put way too much emphasis on cost-efficiency and production speed, to a point quality is absolute shit.

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>>380754613
we need to bring back the guilotine

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>>380723119
>mfw this is how silent hill dies for good

wtf is wrong with asians?

>>380723119
jesus christ. konami is literally the north korea of video games. they make EA look like a fucking saint

Businessmen are evil, film at 11.

>>380756175
As a half asian, I can tell you that most asians are cheap, prone to being stingy, and hold grudges even between family members. Workers are seen as workers first, people second.

>>380756716
>Workers are seen as workers first, people second.
That's true everywhere, though.

Whatever they are doing they have to stop, because clearly on the game quality basis this shit isn't working

Revegeance was their last good game and it wasn't even developed by them

>>380725278
Include it in some employee contract.
If they refuse to sign then they don't get hired/lose their job or are harassed until they quit.
Not everyone is fully competent in contract reading or fully understanding of the potential consequences when they're just starting out in whatever industry.

You can actually see it pretty often in many industries where someone resents their parent company over what they think are unfair terms and seek to leave as soon as they can. They sometimes get in trouble for secretly working on the project they get hired by the new company for while still under contract with the old company like what happened with those brats dolls.

Alternatively, the company could just harass them if they try to use their name, lying to and threatening potential employers.

>take it to court

So what? What stops these people from going to court and raping the company's asshole?

If it's actually illegal to list employment in your CV then your country is pretty much a non-country

>>380728997
It works in fields that people are actually passionate about. Video games, comics, movies, stuff that people grow up wanting to make and put their heart and soul into, and the company gladly sucks that heart and soul right out to grind and rebrand for a thin coating on some executive mismanaged piece of shit and replace with only resentment.

>>380757294
>What stops these people from going to court and raping the company's asshole?
(((Lawyers))).

>>380757285

>Include it in some employee contract.

Not sure about the US but pretty much in all European countries that shit is illegal and goes against the constitution laws. Once your contract is done, you should not be held liable to the company you used to work in anymore.

Not sure about Japan's law but I doubt Konami has real way of even winning that kind of lawsuit. But the damage is already done, they can't use Konami as a recommending employer anyway.

>>380728937
The thing is that they can drag the case on with all kinds of bureaucratic bullshit, delays, changes in arguments.

Courts move slow anon, and in the mean time you have to pay an expensive lawyer to argue your case in a fool proof way (because technicalities can and will fuck you over completely) and paying the court for various resources (turns out the legal system is a business too). And while the costs pile up and time drags you're paralyzed in legal limbo, wondering whether your projects will ever move forward. And the entire time a massive dark cloud hangs over your head, because if you lose you'll be taken for everything you're worth and then some.

And if you win there's still a good chance your legal fees won't be recouped. So you just spent months, if not years of your life, and a small fortune, just to be where you were before the lawsuit took place.

The entire justice system is set up to discourage those who don't have the resources to dispute lawsuits indefinitely. Because indefinite lawsuits are what make the courts the big money. This is almost universal. Most lawsuits aren't about who's right, but about who can last the longest. Peasants don't last very long.

>>380758002
I don't see why it matters if they're Jewish or not. If they're white they'll rape you all the same

>>380756175
As if heaps of western white businessmen don't have raging boners for this sort of stuff and rail about how we need to be more like asia.
Humans are just greedy.

>>380758892
western whites wouldn't stand for it though

>>380758319
>gets sued for frivolous reasons
>the judge doesn't make the rich party pay the legal fees

What shitty country do you live in

>>380757646
Im so glad I kept my hobbies as hobbies sometimes.

>>380732202
>You pour money and your own, jealously guarded know-how into your employees you dont want them to lmao go to another company and apply your philosophy
Wow, I wonder how literally every other industry on the planet manages without applying Konami's stranglehold methods

>>380723712
This is extreme even for Japanese companies.

>>380758161
It varies by area but there are definitely non-competition clauses in contracts that can prevent people from working in their field for some arbitrary length or in a certain area/market and we have plenty of voices cheering that we should be more business friendly like asia instead of wasting time with oversensitive liberal employee rights bs.

Threatening potential employers may be illegal but only if you can prove it.

>But the damage is already done, they can't use Konami as a recommending employer anyway.
As others have noted they also try to prevent ex-employees from getting healthcare.

>>380759026
You'd be surprised how much they can be convinced to work against their own interests and suffer especially if they're told they're sticking it to some other group.

>>380728745
Wouldn't the judge just throw the case out as "frivolous" and force the one who brought up the suit to pay the defendant's legal fees?

>>380760023
Not really

>>380760202
Yeah, really.

>>380760541
Nah.

>>380760571
But actually yah :^)

>>380760571
No he's right.

>>380760670
>>380760678
fuck off chang

>>380759652

>As others have noted they also try to prevent ex-employees from getting healthcare.

That was my post, good you noticed. And yeah thats definitely something Konami or at least the CEO individual could be sued for.

>>380723119
fuck off yongyea we won't give you any money on patreon

>>380759168
You have to sit it out and cough up the money first before you can get those legal fees repaid. And there's no guarantee it'll happen. You might have to sue separately just for that.

>What shitty country do you live in
What country do you live in where this doesn't happen at all? Almost every country's courts, save for tiny scandinavian countries, like to play fuck fuck games when their favorite patrons file lawsuits.

>>380723712
I think in this situation, it's clearly the opposite.
The employees did not betray Konami, Konami betrayed them.

>>380760987
Yeah, here even EA got buttfucked by consumers when they tried to withhold refunds. They even got sued and lost when someone tried to play a game and the CD key didn't work.

If money is such a problem find some kind of union/employer's organization that will help you. My syndicate has full legal support available for me at any time

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>>380750839
>I bet you moron think Kojima was actually fired
I wonder what faggot is behind this post?

>>380760715
Original anon here, I'm white.
People, in general, can just be manipulated to work against their own interests especially in the name of fighting against some "other".

Being so in denial that the group you belong to is somehow the sole magical exception, all contrary evidence and history be damned, just comes off as try-hard and sad.

I mean whether you're on the political left or right you should be able to admit that white people can be manipulated whether it's poor dumb white trash supporting the rich to their own detriment or pampered retarded sjws manipulated by any number or social and political agendas.

>>380761949
I think you believe that people vote for things other than what they vote for.

>>380761331
>deleted
lol

>>380762085
I think that people often vote based on hot-button social issues and media manipulation that are mostly political circus bullshit to distract from more substantive economic and legal issues.

>>380762313
Wow no shit. But usually those hot button social issues are important. It's only a recent trend that retarded SJWs vote based on completely pointless, irrelevant bullshit.

>>380725127
>just about all big ones except Nintendo are)
Nintendo literally started making dosh because they were the main provider of cards for illegal gambling houses.

>>380762443
And this brings it back to the initial point you tried to distract from.
You whined that white people are the sole exception to people being able to be manipulated to work against their interests.
I pointed out that regardless of where you are on the political spectrum you are you probably, in-fact, think that some of "the others" are idiots being manipulated into voting against their interests over petty bullshit.

Now you're whining about sjws voting based on bullshit. If you can't see the point and how you yourself are supporting it then you really are just in denial.

I mean going back to your very first post you claimed that western whites "wouldn't stand" for worker abusive practices like in asia yet china is constantly held up by republicans and "fiscal democrats" as the model we need to look towards to be more "buisness friendly" and economically competitive.
Other anons pointed out how walmart fucks with their employees and >>380758161 was in disbelief that some non-competition clause stuff could be allowed as legal.

>>380763532
>You whined that white people are the sole exception to people being able to be manipulated to work against their interests.
No I just said they wouldn't stand for what goes on in Asia's workplace. Then you claimed white people could be manipulated into voting based on hot-button issues over complex and multifaceted issues as if that delegitimizes the hot button issues or invalidates their vote/concerns.

The fact that recently, minority groups of SJWs are voting purely based on non-issues and have been manipulated into caring more about "the other" than shit that's actually important doesn't really mean anything, walmart, a single company doing something doesn't really mean anything. If it were happening all over the west like it is in Asia you'd have a point, but the reality is it's mostly just outliers and that people would probably not stand for those kinds of conditions.

>>380750839
Hey Caramel-san, haven't heard much from you after E3, are you alright?

>>380748396

Nice trying to justify yourself, but it ain't working neetfag

>>380764846
Oh, I'm not a NEET. Just got one last exam to go.

>>380764898

And THEN you'll be Neet. :^)

>>380765134
That is what I said you dumb, stupid, brain-scalpelled fuck.

>>380723119
How is this even legal? I know that Japanese employment world is a horror (Chinese isn't better though as I worked in Shanghai for four months myself).
I mean seriously, what do they say at court? Or is this where famous Japanese attorney system kicks in and fucks every normal citizen in the ass?

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Leave Konami to me.

>>380764483
>No I just said they wouldn't stand for what goes on in Asia's workplace.
And I pointed out that many are cheering and pushing for exactly that and reducing worker rights in general while things like non-competition clauses seem equally unbelievably fair to others.
>Then you claimed white people could be manipulated into voting based on hot-button issues
My claim is that ANYONE can be manipulated into working aginst their own interests.
You're the one protesting that western whites are some magic exception.
>walmart, a single company doing something doesn't really mean anything
But konami, a single company doing something, does? If you read the thread you'd see people talking about how these practices stand out among other japanese companies although some use lesser but similar tactics.
We in the west likewise use and accept practices like non-competition clauses that are similar in nature and seem unfair and unbelievable to others and as I keep saying and you have ignored, politicians and business leaders hold up asia as a model of what needs to be done to improve business including looser regulations on the employer/employee relationship.

>>380764483
I mean, come on, non-competition clauses literally exist in the west.
In what denial-driven delusion do western whites not accept these shitty business practices like the eeeevil asians?

>>380728937
>he doesn't know how grorious Nippon court system works
You bascially hape to prove yourself you aren't guilty. For that you need a lawyer and in Japan you won't get a defender, let alone will he win a case for you. Courts don't even want to really read through all this shit, they just prove guilty left and right, that's why they have such a high case solving rate. You are easier off just seppuk'ing yourself than actually attending for defence.

>sign contract with the devil
>WHY ARE YOU HOLDING ME TO THESE UNFAIR TERMS!?! REEEEEEEEEEEEE
Some of you people man. You probably would sign a contract with satan then try to worm out of it later and whine like a bitch.

>>380732202
Oh yes, would definetely help that employer branding. For people with degrees, working conditions are actually important and they don't sign up shitty contracts like those. Desperate trash in need for job to not get fucked by ministry of finance and employment perhaps, but not actually qualified staff.

I had a 2 years employment or 20000€ contract with my previous employer, but it was due to him paying my complete university costs. It was just easier to stay for two years.

>>380751513
Very simple. Read about situation for graduates.
They basically mass-employ them during unvisersity / college. Ones who weren't employed have hard as fuck time getting job. Japan is one of the few countries that still does this shit.

>>380724219
Yes goyim, keep working like the slaves you are

>>380724143
That's the thing, not only you lose out on showing your experience, you also make it seem like you've been doing shady shit in that time.

>>380724514
>>380749609

Also, marketing reasons.

>>380766587
>Reading 20 pages of tos when downloading a new game
>Hiring a lawyer to look over your 30 page job tos

Lel

>>380723119
How is this not illegal?
It's sounds almost like it crosses onto a bunch of the monopoly laws, only with the job market instead of the actual market.
I'm curious what the lawyers sent to sue the ex-employees would even present to the court. It's not illegal to put your past experience on your resume, so what law would they claim you've broken?

>>380768012
Konami doesn't care. They're symbiotically fused with the Yakuza at this point.

>>380768012
Read
>>380766375
>>380767120
Due to large scale life-time employment it's hard to find new job in your 30s-50s and thanks to retarded court system you can't even win even a case as retarded as this one.

>>380723712
>Thats what almost all JP companies do.
Then why is a Japanese newspaper calling them out on it? Even the Nikkei knows it's not normal.

>>380733472
>The Japanese can win a war outside of their shitty island

Truely the best meme

>>380769124
Russo-Japanese war? Sino-Japanese wars?

>get sued for putting actual employment history on resume
I can do this in Burgerstan without repercussions just fine. Suck my dick Konami, I even practiced law so you can't lawyer your way out of it either if I had ever been employed with you.

>>380768435

I'm still very curious what they actually go to court with. Even with a shit defender, there must be some sort of actual charge against you.

>>380735572

>wait 3 generations
>amerikeks are now all brainwashed, mudshark retards

>>380770468
Don't know if you mean in America or Japan, but
there is no real charge in America because there is no way companies would get away with it. You have tax records kept by IRS for example. You have an open and shut case that could get such a lawsuit thrown out in a matter of seconds.

>>380723119
>Ex-Konami employees can't put their years of experience with the company on their resumes or Konami will sue.

>worked on the Silent Hill series
>bring a PS2, a copy of SH2 and memcard containg near endgame save
>set it all up in the interview
>when asked about prior experience, power it on, finish the game and let the cresits roll
>wait
>point at screen
>"see? that's my name right there"

>>380771652
>worked for konami, not worth the hassle hiring him.