http://gematsu.com/2017/06/legend-h eroes-trails-cold-steel-

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Calvard when?

Does Trails have encounters like Petaloids in EO where you're better off trying to kill them instead of eating a party wide sleep and dying horribly because your escape failed?

She'll try to recover the plan from Osbourne and will ask Laura to join them.
Campy and co. will be working on the plan in the meantime.

>>380676294
If the S. in Laura's name is anything but Sandlot it would be a legit surprise.

>>380676294
If you can do the plan without stealing it, Then why do you even need to recover the plan?

Trails /vg/ thread when?

>>380676608
hopefully never, there's not enough to talk about

Threadly reminder that Aidios never existed and you're all being fooled by the church fags.

>>380677338
Jesusfags here. What now?

>>380676608
I bought the first game, became burned out, and haven't even touched the second game. I don't understand how people can be excited about this series.

Cold Steel was a decent Persona 4 clone, but it should have tried even harder.

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>>380677535
Just take a redpill on true wisdom

>>380676561
Because you want to show up the guy who took it?

>>380677817
Plot

Anyone want Osborne to be the main antagonist instead of Ouroboros? Does he has potential as MA?

So when Randy calls Tio PeTiote it's supposed to be a nickname calling her petite?

>TFW Renne shows up at the final boss to help
I didn't ask for these feels

>>380679401
that's nothing to what you'll be feeling when you find out why that happened in Ao

>>380677817
>Cold Steel
>Persona 4 clone
People are actually this fucking retarded.. Did you not even pay attention to the stories of the two games? They're absolutely nothing alike.

>>380679775
meh, in any case, it was nice to have a Trails arc begin with a game that has a happy ending for once. Obviously there's more to what happened than we know, but there's no huge cliffhanger, no heart-wrenching ending. It was nice.

>>380679780
B-but they both have social links and a high school setting!

>>380675510
Will she get a robot too?

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>>380680251
no, Tita will get the robot.

>>380680379
She already has one

>>380680104
I'm honestly starting to wonder whether these people use their brains at all and pay attention to the story or if they just like pressing buttons and want games with button pressing that is "more fun"

>>380680467
Her orbal gear is obsolete now that there are divine knights getting awakened.

I fucking hate robot. Sadly now that the Divine Knight is a thing, Character power level hardly matter anymore. It is Robot time.

>>380680828
Haven't play CS yet, I didn't know that Divine Knights are that strong. So they can beat Steel? Does Steel has her own Divine Gundam too?

>>380680828
I get what you're saying but that hasn't really been an issue so far like in other games. The mechs aren't really even used that frequently desu

>>380680565
I really wonder if all this jap political early XX century bs added much to the game. I hope it does because I'm almost finishing the first one and paying attention to most of it.

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>>380682230
>jap political early XX century bs
Elaborate.

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Somebody in the last thread said manual saves carried over to emulators but my saves in my old emulator version of Zero didn't exist in the newer version of the PSP emulator.

Fuck me, do I have to sit through that shit again?

>>380681447

CS2 is the only gave with heavy mech use so far.

That being said, considering it introduced mass produced mechs and called them the next generation of orbal technogly I'm guessing they'll be a mainstay from now on, even after the story leaves Erebonia.

>>380682870
Just get that it fromgamefaqs

>>380680050

Is that the norm?

I thought Cold Steel and it's sad endings with the characters not really winning at all, was unusual with the only downers prior being Joshua leaving in Sky 1?

>>380682907
Damn, Why do they have to ruin the character/plot with Gundam. Just occasional one like Peter Mater is fine. But now Peter is obsolete and the Divine Knight is the new power level toy.

>>380683398
Sky FC and Cold Steel 1 both do it. Both end on big cliffhangers and bummer endings. The second games in the arc don't do it, but the first ones pretty much always do. Zero is actually the exception.

>>380683410
>Orbal Gear shows a proof of concept
>More mech stuff show up in Ao
Are you surprised when they reach MP robots now?

>>380684040
Nah not really that surprised, just kinda salty. Why did they even bothered to hype Steel power level if Rean's or any Divine Knight is going to BTFO her later.

>>380684583
>He thinks that Steel isn't going to have a Divine Knight of her own or that Ouroboros isn't going to make up their own bootlegs

>>380684758
Nah I meant Steel power level. Her own without her Divine Knight. They make her up to be God tier power without any robot but a divine Knight is going to BTFO her later. Why even bothered?

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I LOVE ESTELLE!

>>380683410
Pater Mater is obsolete because it's dead

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Alright, time to get this party started.

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Alisa did nothing wrong.

L A U R A

>>380689402
She was criminally boring

>>380676050
There are monster chests that will surprise you with 10 enemies who could faint everyone in the party so you can't even escape or kill them all at once with a special move.

Why is ernest so much more badass than gilbert?

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>MUH LITERAL TRANSLATIONS

So which item is better, the one that requires you to run away or the one that requires you to not run away?

>>380689704
I hope your favorite girl isn't Laura then.

>>380691001
It wasn't.

But the difference is that while both were boring, Alisa was shoved in your face.

>If the character is just a normal person without some super dramatic backstory then they're boring

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I'm at black&white royal academy. how long until this game end?

pure boredom so far

>>380691260
Only Alisa really offends me because she gets the most mileage out of being romanced out of nearly all the girls and her scenes were just so uninteresting. That and her entire backstory/motivation was something that was brought up multiple times with how her mom expects so much of her yet Alisa is mostly never seen working towards said goal of becoming a really capable businesswoman. I just couldn't bring myself to care for any of her issues aside from reconciling why her mom is like that. If they were going to make this the main girl, I honestly would have expected better.
>>380691440
You got a while

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Hmmm looks familiar

>>380691894
Probably why they decided to make Emma the main heroine in CS2 and maybe Altina or Juna in CS3.

>>380691894
will I missed out important lore if i just quit now?

wanna play Zero or something else. pure dungeon is no fun

>>380692237
wat dis

more demon power?

Rankings best to worst in terms of gameplay:
1. Cold Steel
2. Crossbell
3. TitS
Story and characters:
1. TitS
2. Crossbell
3. Cold Steel

>>380692542
Emma was such a non character in CS1 that I find it hard to believe that she's suddenly magically interesting in CS2.

>>380692556
>will I missed out important lore if i just quit now?
Yes.

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>>380692556
You'll miss out on Estelle and Joshua's initial search for Renne as well as everything about Kevin and Ries. 3rd was my favorite out of the trilogy. You also miss out on the Ouroboros Anguis meeting in one of the optional scenes.

>>380692685
Considering she stole the spotlight from everyone else?

>required character for the shrine trials despite not being locked into the party
>don't bring Emma along in a sidequest only for the characters to say "yo, let's bring Emma with us"
>has connections with the main bad guy of CS2 (Vita)

>>380692838
So basically she had to blackhole everything into her? Sounds forced

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>>380692685
Well, she technically kept the best portions of what made CS1's ending interesting so of course, when she's able to let it all out and be the team's guide to magical things sh gets relevance.
>>380692927
It at least makes sense why she does.
>>380692542
And on to that, I already find Juna and Altina more interesting than Alisa unless they pull something different with her now that the latter is older. Juna is already written with good reason to suspect Rean and not like where she is in life at the moment and that problem can be alleviated relatively easily so she can be made likable real fast. Plus if they actually pull through with Juna ending up with Kurt, that's just more points for her. Altina's case is a bit simpler since it'll most likely her and Millium siding with Rean over Ozzy.

>>380692685

It's significantly improved on account of not having to hide the whole witch thing with her.

Emma suffers in CS1 because her whole part in the game until basically it's over is "She's mysterious and does mysterious things just off sceen enough that Rean doesn't catch on.'

>>380692542

Altina's just because they don't want to piss off waifufags, so they opted to go with none of them and are using a new character as Rean's main buddy.

Otherwise there's really no reason why they used her and not Millium beyond some people probably didn't waifu her.

>>380692927
Pretty much.

Alisa's demoted after Roer.
Elliot's demoted after meeting up with his dad. Could have had a moment with rescuing his sister but Neithardt made sure to steal that spotlight.
Laura's just there for Duvalie's hateboner in which Laura just doesn't care.
Gaius is Gaius in that he's irrelevant after Nord.
Millium got obsoleted after Altina shows up despite being in your party all the time.
Machias is forgettable in CS2 except for a brief time when rescuing his dad, which was still irrelevant because Infernal Castle happens afterwards.
Jusis only had a decent ending to his character arc by arresting his dad and then finding out about Rufus (best boy indeed).
Fie's plot was about where and what her family's doing, resolved at Infernal Castle.

>>380693223
Even when Emma had to hide her witch shit, barely anyone bothers to make a fuss about her doing mysterious/shady shit. Which is why it bothers me that she winds up eating everyone else's already limited screen time to make up for Falcom wasting the first 80 hours of the game.

I'm about ready to call Zero the single worst game of the series. What's really killing it for me is how fucking menial the sidequests are and how there are so many of them making you rethread the same places over and over again for the most irrelevant shit like fucking flowers. First trails to make me decide "fuck it, main story only".

>>380692668
Switch Crossbell and Cold Steel in story and characters and you're good

>>380693565
Zero doesn't even have that many of them though. Sky games had way more in every chapter

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>>380693435
>Jusis only had a decent ending to his character arc by arresting his dad and then finding out about Rufus (best boy indeed).
And said arc isn't even finished with Rufus being big honcho at Crossbell. I guess Fie's arc isn't over yet too I guess.

>>380693614
Cold steel had the worst story tho and the characters had way less going on thanks to the large cast

>>380693841
Why the fuck is Laura's sword huge

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>>380693970
It's an Arseid thing

>>380693435
I think this is the reason why the pat few game have been weak. The main cast feels like they don't even really belong in the story other than a selected few.

>>380693809

But you weren't stuck in a single city forever in the same places the whole fucking time. I'm sick and tired of going through the mainz road and east/west crossbell highway.

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>>380694096
Even when the development is spread too far and thin, some characters honestly don't matter as much as the others. I mean they're all connected to some big names but only Jusis and Emma get their big character moments.

>>380694196
I guess I can see what your issue is, but personally that stuff never bothers me in the slightest no matter what series or game it's in. So to me it wasn't an issue.

Also the sidequests are optional.

>>380693970

Because as the inheritor of the school she's expecting to wield the massive hueg sword that was left to the Arseid's some day.

>>380694343

>60% of the game is optional
nice outlook on the game there, buddy.

>>380694196
I wonder if people who live in citystate like singapore or monaco have the same complain.

>>380694312
I honestly forgot what Emma whole story was even about. Most of her purpose in the story was just info dump during the shrines. Jusis is probably the only one that had something going on with him but by the end he's just kinda there.

>>380693514
I think the first hint players get that Emma is going to be way more relevant to the point of eating up the screen time would have been the first game's final dungeon where Emma is a required party member and you can't kick her out of it.

Though if we really want to be technical, Celine is pretty much Rean's best bud throughout almost the entire game.

>>380694613
>By the end
By the end, everyone is just kind of there next to Rean because Vita's desire to watch two mechs duke it out. Plus the playable party just reverts to class-mode for Crow's sake.

>>380694613
I thought Emma's entire story was trying to find out why the fuck Vita left the village and shit. Granted, her other story was also to look out for the Ashen Knight and stuff but the Vita plotline took over afterwards.

>>380694196
I never really had problems with it since you can take the bus and the running speed isn't that slow. There are only a few side quests other then the monster quests that require you to actually go explore the roads between the key places.

>>380694096
>>380694312

Some guys are clearly just there for school tropes and/or to balance the idea of class 7 (future important nobles and commoners from all walks of life) more than their importances in the overall game story.

I mean if they cut all the non plot critical characters, you'd have Rean, Emma Jusis, and maybe Fie and Alicia, which would give them lots of face time but really wouldn't help the Class 7 project.

>>380694460
Considering speed runs of the game only take about 6-8 hours, pretty much.

CS2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tgfw-2ZLD4

Ao - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVf90CQDyas

>>380694898
After seeing how fast you can run in the CS games, going towards Sky felt like a downgrade.

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>>380694907
We just pray the Class VII project actually bears fruit in CS3 characterwise. Lest the actually small size of the new Class VII overshadow them.

>>380694907
Honestly cutting some of them would allow them to have more time to actually flesh out the characters. I honestly think the new class would get way more development between them than class 7 with just only 1 game.

>>380695140
I felt running speed in the 3d games felt slow but maybe that just the stiff running animations.

>>380694907
You could trim it down to just 7 of them. It would be cheesy for class 7 to just have 7 characters but it would give everyone focus and you'd have one character for every element gameplay wise too.

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I wish we could play as bracers again. The bracer organization is the coolest thing in Zemuria. Plus it leaves tons of flexibility in the setting, characters, and plot.

Cool cameos from past games would make more sense too.

Still very early into it but so far this spreadsheet method for Ao has been pretty good. In fact, a few times it almost felt like the lines were actually in the game. Just gotta have the spreadsheet share the screen space with the emulator and you're good to go,.

Only issue, of course, is the lack of readable dialogue for sidequests and such. Might just use a guide for those.

>>380695047
So is Crossbell mage spam to win again?

>>380697014
No. Crossbell is a pretty good mix.

>>380697165
You sure because it looks like the only strategy anyone uses is to have Lloyd/Rixia be bait while the mages cast to win.

>>380697217
Well that would be a pretty stupid single strategy to use considering Rixia isn't even playable in the first game except for a specific portion. So that's half of crossbell right off the bat where that not only isn't "the only strategy," but it's actually not a strategy at all for 99% of the game.

>>380697391
In that case then it sounds better then.

>>380697883
And that's just with bosses anyway. Generally, if you're smart, you're going to be starting random encounters by stunning them with your weapon first and then going into combat with a whole round of critical hits and free group attacks that wipe everything out without casting a single spell.

>>380675510
What

>>380700074
Video games

Are recipes missable in Zero?