http://www.teamfortress.com/post.ph p?id=30112 IT IS *almost* HAPPENING

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>jungle update

GOTTA MOVE THAT one webm UP

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>>380650360
Erecting a webm

>>380651057
need that edgy blood splatter mod to get your school shooter urges out huh, kid? you edgy little fuck.

>>380649085
>Jungle update
*muffled fortunate son at the distance*

>>380651057
Has anybody found the source for this? There has to be more.

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>>380649085
>2017
>Still plays/cares about TF2

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>>380652706
Thank you, for not writing "It ain't me"

>>380653063
It's always a bit annoying when 1 fucking underage kid alone tries hard to push his shitty little forced meme

>>380652703
Pretty sure it's just video editing.

>>380649085
Is this the Pyro update? Are we FINALLY getting real content instead of hats and fan maps?

>>380652886
I can't find it. Please, soneone help us.

>>380649085
>2012

>>380651057
How does anyone stand having auto-reload on?

Did they ever fix the issues with open source AMD drivers?

About goddamn time, Valve

>>380653607
What's so bad about auto-reload?

>>380653607
Why not? It's literally harmless.

>>380651057
>>380652886
>>380653382
https://youtu.be/0fCpAuxrQ_I?t=68

Who else is ready for more poorly-modeled ugly shirts and "pocket _____" shit?
Because I'm sure not

>>380653290
doesn't look like it

somebody feel free prove me wrong though

>>380653881
>>380653829
Depending on your viewmodel FOV it can really obscure your view with some weapons.

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>>380654709
I'm ready for more stock reskins :^)

>>380654929
Only a problem with revolvers and the old soda popper really

>>380653607
Spy main detected.

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>>380649085
>A bunch of jungle/vietnam themed skins and re-skin weapons

>reskin jungle map

>Maybe 1 new A/D jungle map

>No new weapons and those pyro weapons we were promised STILL aren't here

>Still 3 years behind on finishing that comic

Hes dead jim.

>>380653829
I think it's just a community update

>>380655006
didn't they say non stock skins were coming this time around?

>>380655464
>non stock skins
OH FUCKING BOY

>TF2
>ever relevant ever again

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LET'S MAKE SOME NOISE

>>380654929
Used to be this case, but now you can put a script that makes your viewmodels transparent. I still don't autoreload though because I like hitting R myself.

>>380655464
Probably, but I won't except anything. I don't have faith anymore.

>>380653607
>playing with viewmodels
lmao look at this shitter

>>380655267
>>380655520

it's all coming at once family

they claim it's "the biggest update yet" so it'd be asinine if they just released the jungle maps and some skins

>>380651057
Why?

>>380655818
the biggest update yet*
*this year

>>380655053
They redid the revolvers and heavy's shotgun reload animations so it isn't in your fucking view constantly.

>>380655818
They claim that every time. We still haven't gotten a real update in something like three years.

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>>380655818
>Biggest update yet

Last time they said that, Meet Your Match happened and killed the game.

The skeleton team that still works on TF2 can't support the game, and Valve doesn't care about video games anymore because their distribution system through steam makes 900x what they would bring in making games without any risk.

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>>380654929
>people still don't use minimal viewmodels

they're better in every way, what's the problem?

>tfw b4nny the Scout main will nerf Pyro to the ground, give Soldier and Demo weapons only, and buff Scout/Medic again

>>380656186
Huh, I never play spy or shotgun heavy so I didn't know that

>>380656575
pyro sees no action in comp whatsoever, what purpose could nerfing him possibly serve anyone?

>>380656170
The only update this year

>>380656575
b4nny needs to fucking die. I hate how the TF2 team seems to follow whatever he says just because he's the best scout player in the game.

>>380656732
Beats me, he says himself he can't play it for shit and hates it

Enjoy your "Pyro buffs"

Getting into Overwatch made me miss TF2 because it's such a low-skill ceiling fucking imbalanced mess compared to TF2, especially as far as damage falloff goes, everything is so fucking long-ranged.

And absolutely nothing plays exactly like my man the Engie. Yeah, Torbjorn is an Engineer, but the dude doesn't come close to feeling like him. Or maybe it's just because everyone has these fucking abilities, sentries are largely worthless.

>>380656513
I only have it disabled on soldier due to the janky rocket launcher corner shenanigans you can do is easier to figure out with default viewmodels and demoman because the sword is a shitton more in your face with minimal, mostly when swinging it.

>>380656732
The last big update was huge Pyro and Engineer nerfs despite both of them being shit and useless, along with Soldier buffs despite him being the best. They balance towards what makes the most 1337 epic killstreak youtubers happy, not towards what leads to even gameplay.

>>380653643
>did they ever fix the issues
>with open source drivers
????

>>380656820
he can't play it for shit because it's a broken gimped class that even the best player couldn't make use of against the usual comp lineup so he never tries

>>380656910
>using a sword
Believe me, you're not good enough for viewmodels to make a difference.

>>380649085
Holy shit, will probably be the end of this month.

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>>380656575
:(

i will be dissapointed if valve does include my unusual effect, i dont expect them to add stuff not created by people who already have 99999999 items in the game

>>380656784
>I hate how the TF2 team seems to follow whatever he says
They don't, stop spreading disinfo retard.

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>>380656745
>the only update five years from now*
This post is just fucking delicious.

>>380656908
Yeah, I don't think I'll ever find a game I'll enjoy as much as I enjoy TF2. I fell for the Battleborn and Paladin memes but flashy abilities will never compare to the skillsets of the TF2 characters.

I'll probably be better off trying to get into Quake or CS instead, who knows.

>>380657318

Hi /trash/ friend

>>380649085
>>380651057

Fuck now I wanna play TF2. I'm getting bored from playing overwatch.

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>>380656916
>huge Pyro and Engineer nerfs
Such as?

>Soldier buffs
Such as?

>being the best
epic

>>380657142
cute cade

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>>380657039
>he doesn't go demoknight to get med picks
Come on laddie, be a man.

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>>380657565
heya

>>380657603
Minisentry destroyed, building mechanics being gutted to require more babying, pyro melee nerfed further, various RLs buffed, etc

But then the fact that you're even asking clearly shows you don't play well enough to be aware of updates

>>380656908
Overwatch sentries are worthless because they are disposable and easy to kill to the point that they're only worth having as surprise gotcha tools

>>380657669
Why would you voluntarily play the worst class in the game? Demo is better than Demopan for killing Medics every time.

>>380658047
But I'm not playing Pyro nigger

>>380657669
>when you got the tide turner and zip around the map killing stragglers all the time

>>380655783
>playing without viewmodels
hello crutchfag

>>380657875
minis were always shit, buildings go up FASTER if you smack them a little, axestinguisher is less shit than it was beforehand, and you ignore the health from extinguishing people

I think you're the one who doesn't play well enough to actually read the updates

>>380658096
but the worst class is spy idiot

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>>380649085
Post you're loadouts

>>380656908
this

all my games boiled down to wittle down time, then at crunches, throw up all the ults onto the point or to push past on cart

instead of using them thoughtfully or something
like a plan

TF2 has none of that and better stock weapon loadouts, also, no real class hurdles due to no abilities. it'd be like giving us back TFC class nades and anyone old enough to remember that shit REMEMBERS THAT SHIT

>>380656575
b4nny needs to fuck off
this is why you ignore esports niggers when it comes to balance

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>>380658184
>axetinguisher is less shit now
>less shit now

>>380649085
why don't they just introduce a new class

>>380658239
>spy speed buffs
>dead ringer
>spycicle
>amby

Still better off than Pyro

>>380658331
the slower speed and reduced damage is much better than being a melee backburner

>>380656916
>The last big update was huge Pyro and Engineer nerfs despite both of them being shit and useless
First of all engineer is not useless, he's strong as fuck on defense and has many good unlocks. Did you mean situational?

Second the only changes pyro got in MyM was a manmelter and flamethrower buff. Engineer got cheaper teleports and slightly buffed widowmaker too.

>>380658413
pyro can be useful warding off an uber or reflecting stickies, the moment the enemy team knows you have a spy they can just push freely and win everytime because you're basically a man down on them

I remember this game

>>380657272
>he had to convince valve not to buff the reserve shooter
>whenever they need an opinion on something they go to him

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>>380658289
>cosmetics

>>380658589
>they can just push freely and win everytime because you're basically a man down on them
Being a man down doesn't guarantee a successful push. Also pyro is just as bad if they know you're playing him, they'll just bring a scout in on the uber to rape you and even if they don't he's nearly worthless in a team fight.

>>380658723
if valve actually had to be convinced that the reserve shooter is overpowered then they probably need someone like him

No crossbow reskin no buy

>>380658297
That's the thing, ultimates dumb everything down even further because it's essentially just "okay we all ult at the same time and then this person saves his ult in case their Mercy lives and gets to res all of them".

With fucking Ubers, the ONLY equivalent of an ult that TF2 has, the team defending from said Uber had to coordinate to minimize the damage it did. OW is just "Press Q and aim it, there, your job is LARGELY done with now.", it's so much less intuitive.

>>380658919
they just look at usage statistics and decide on "balance" changes based on that because they don't actually play the game
expect the darwins shield to be buffed because valve sees nobody using it even though nobody uses it because it's a mark of shame on the user

>>380658919
The gun itself isn't op, its actually decent to bad on the soldier (intended class that got it)
It's when they added it to the fucking pyro with no changes and he had a degreaser is why it's bullshit.

>>380658723
That was one of the few things they actually listened to him about, he said they ignored most of his suggestions.

>>380657669
Back when demoknight actually was an ok side class I loved him. Then he got chemically castrated into full-on shit never pick tier.

>>380659171
Darwin's was already buffed back when they removed polycount bonuses, now it prevents death from headshots and other resistances along with extra health

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We can all agree that Meet the Spy is the best Meet the Team video surely?
>the little details that give away the scout as the Red spy
>"that would be YOUR MOTHER"
>the climatic way the spy is hyped up to be a huge threat

>>380659321
Eyelander is still good, it's just they made every other sword and caber (besides the Scotsman skull cutter which they buffed so it's actually a legit melee weapon if running grenade and stickies) worthless.

>>380659186
>its actually decent to bad on the soldier
No it's still a very strong unlock. The main issue with the reserve shooter is that you can minicrit a soldier or demo explosive jumping from a mile away because it doesn't have falloff.

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>>380659692
yes... I'm aware

>>380659775
Which sucks, since I used to use the Persian Persuader religiously, enough that I even named it 'the blackstab', since I just played him like a more speed-based spy.

>>380659775
Naw zatoichi is still a fine pick, so long as nobody else is using it to pwn your ass

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>>380659725
>mfw the Sniper scar was added to him after Meet the spy video

FIX AXETINGUISHER VALVE

>>380659186
reserve shooter soldiers shits on any other soldier because they literally can't bomb you or they get fucked

>>380659725
>the music
>scout's reactions
>the stinger

>>380660183
Speaking of shotguns, they better be adding a new one for heavy and not nerf it this time

>>380660158
That was a pretty nice touch

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>>380660158
>tfw this is the only change a character's received via an update to their playermodel
>besides that Scout now has a chance for Archimedes to spawn out of his body should he be gibbed by an explosion

>>380656575
>b4nny the Scout main
The fuck? He's famous for being a great Demoman

>>380660406
>Scout now has a chance for Archimedes to spawn out of his body should he be gibbed by an explosion
Damn really? I never noticed, that's pretty good

>>380660456
He's converted to Scout/Soldier the past few years, where have you been?

>>380659725
>not "meet the medic"

FINAL
ISSUE
FUCKING
WHEN?

>people trying to talk up tf-fucking-2 like it's the proving ground of organically developed team work and skilled plays

Enjoy your 24/7 gold-dust when you get tricked into reinstalling it because of skins

>>380659186
it's much better on soldier, the downside is most players can't reliably pop enemies to use it

if you know how to shoot feet it's just an airblast that does damage

>>380660647
>He doesn't server hop as soon as his current servers starts loading a map he doesn't like

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>>380660456
Out of curiosity I just took a look at b4nny's class stats
https://steamcommunity.com/id/b4nny/stats/TF2

>>380660603
Not following competitive tf2 because it's a joke

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>>380659725
I still like meet the heavy/demoman/soldier the best. Probably just nostalgia since those were part of me first getting into TF2.

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>>380649085
>only thing TF2 thing I cared for anymore was the comic
>the writer left Valve and it will probably never be released

>>380660850
>>380656575
Is this some sort of joke? Who qualified this guy to supposedly watch over the Pyro update? Is he really in charge of class changes?

>>380661191
>Is he really in charge of class changes?
No

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>>380649085
>Miss the days of Nemu's and other dedicated Dustbowl servers.
>Find myself hopping on every now and again, but only end up playing on laggy Degroot severs since no one seems to play DB anymore.

>>380660559
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDaGgrAhKYM

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>>380659725
I can't believe how lame Meet the Pyro was after Meet the Spy and Meet the Medic

>>380660782
>implying i didn't game hop when the only servers under 100 ping load up maps im sick to death of

Server browser is looking worse than ever now, I can hardly spot a vanilla server in this list of mods and trade servers.

>>380661275
Where are you even playing?

There's like 24/7 dustbowl skial servers here in LA

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>>380661191
No. Valve invited a bunch of competitive players for their input on game balance, and b4nny happened to be one of them. None of these players have any say in what they put in, just provided balance feedback.

It's just shitposting.

>>380660850
>those hours on Scout Demo and Soldier compared to every other class
I don't know who this fag is but I already hate him

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>>380649085
Finally we get more hats! Putting $100 in my steam account how about my fellow bros here?

>>380661719
t. shitter

>>380661637
perhaps they've gather some feedback but they never put it to use

>>380661275
At least you still have a few people still playing on dustbowl. I can only ever play mountain lab with bots now.

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>Selling black paint for 2 ref

I WANT TO GO BAAAAAAAAAAACK

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Is it worth playing TF2 now or should I stick with shitwatch?

>>380661846
???
Nobody but cocksucking faggots have 3000+ hours on their third most played class while having not even 1000 on their most played fourth class
basically if you don't play every class then you are the shitter

>>380661949
Huh, yeah I just checked. I hope that's not peak hour players though. I remember having to wait at least 5 minutes to que into any popular dustbowl server.

>>380661959
After Eight is cheaper and looks almost the same.

>>380661892
They made the iron bomber because of Benny. It's basically straight upgrade. Oh Yea and made comp sixes instead of highlander which would make too much sense.

>>380661959
>no shit cosmetics at all
I want to go back

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post your fuckin ghouls

also threadly reminder that overwatch's banter is complete shit and is made for children
https://youtu.be/yK9ya1vZZcU

>>380662337
Well, that's... better

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>>380662330

>>380661275
>>380661949
Where do you niggas live? Both DB and Mountainlab are easy to find in casual

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>>380662207
>playing useless classes like spy and pyro
>calling b4nny a shitter

How much is a key worht in Refs nowadays?
>tfw buying your first game on Steam just by weapon trading

>>380662558
30 ref

What map has the comfiest atmosphere and players?

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IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR

>>380662650
2fort :)

>>380662152
Of course it's still worth it.

this shit ain't coming before september and it will be a massive letdown anyway

>>380662152
it's free and the skill of the average pub means that if you are even the least bit proficient you will do fairly well
unlike Overwatch tf2 rewards skill

>>380662650
Gold Rush

>>380662667
did they nerf it?

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>>380662650
Name a comfier map than manor.
You can't.

Is TF2 fine to play if you don't buy or use any cosmetics?

>>380662650
Mountain lab

>>380662541
wooooooow it's almost like some people play games to have fun rather than to be always 100% efficient.
you cock fantasizing dumb grass eating baboon mouthbreather

>>380662914
Well duh, cosmetics don't affect gameplay at all

>>380662914
why wouldn't it be?

>>380653607
Beats pressing reload after literally every action.

>>380662914
No, TF2 is a shitty game and the only reason people ever gave it any time at all was because of the awesome hats.

>>380655629
always thought this was really cool when I found out

>>380655818
Being the biggest could mean just like the last big update + one extra hat.
That would count as "bigger"

>>380652703
Why are you so afraid of violence? Is it because you're too weak?

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>>380661892
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5pZgph_ZaU
It seems like they more or less followed his bad advice on the degreaser.
>"Instead of asking why the pyro's primary attack is useless and fixing it so that the degreaser's drawbacks actually matter, lets just nerf the pyro's only good primary to try and make it as shitty as the rest of them."

>>380660327
Give me a shotgun primary so that way I can gun and sandvich, please valve.

>>380663054
you sound upset
settle down kiddo
go idle in 2fort some more

>>380662532
Mountainlab guy here. I'm North Carolina and there are zero community servers with mountain lab on it. Casual usually takes 8-10 minutes as well.

>>380662914
>Is it okay to play the game if you treat it like what games traditionally have been? Which is to say just about gameplay and nothing else?

Of course.

>>380662810
>unlike Overwatch tf2 rewards skill
Absolutely true. Every class in TF2 is in OW in some way and dumbed down. No character needs to worry about ammo count, every hero has an ability to cover their ass with or make their job MUCH easier with, etc.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8wMVmY7Zpw

>>380663220
I saw prem players run full stock pyro and pound so im not sure there's any issue with that.

>>380662914
It's still fun meatshot people even without ipod earbuds.

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>>380662370
>YOUR WHITE FLAG DOES NOT STOP AMERICAN BULLETS

>>380651057
cancer

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>>380663332
I wanna fuck that robot lady

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>>380662869
No more bonus health

All you get now is an alt-fire shove that looks fucking stupid

>>380662650
Official: Mountainlab/Egypt
Unofficial: CP_Orange_x3

>>380653607
i used to reload even if i only fired 1 siringe so there was no drawback for me

medics are fags and the game would be way more fun without them

nothing kills a round faster than a med shoved up a power classes ass with the kritz, thinking he's hot shit for adadadadadadaing, occasionally checking behind and right clicking every 40 seconds

are classic servers still fun?

>>380661275
Nemu's dustbowl server is still up though.

>>380663690
Learn to git gud

>>380662370
Banter tier list:
Soldier
Spy
Scout
Sniper
Demo
Heavy
Medic
Pyro

>>380662914
>is tf2 good if you ignore the sole focus of the last 8 years

In the same sense that Greece is the height of culture and learning sure.

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>>380663690
>Can't deal with kritz

The only thing Valve can do to save TF is make TF3
Original 9, 6 new classes, 2 of them being waifubait.

>playing TF2 in 2017

Thanks for confirming that you're all underaged.

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>>380663690
>He isn't playing roamer exclusively to deal with meds/engineers trying to set up
I am the bane of their existence; unless of course these people learn to look behind them and defend their supports

>>380662874
my personal favorite map

>>380664219
disgusting
There doesn't need to be a TF3
I'd rather they port TF2 to source 2, but that might break a lot of movement-based mechanics

>>380664261
All the underage are playing Overwatch and PLAYERUNKNOWN's and shit. What are you on about? What underage would be playing TF2 over these more modern games?

>>380664451
>responding to bait

>>380664261
>people playing a decade old game are underage
what?

>>380663823
>>380664127

>he's on my team
>we spawncamp for 6 minutes
>everybody leaves on map change
>have to re-queue and hope i don't get a shit map/round on last point/server with 3 people

go buy a new brain you stupid healsluts

>>380649085
The Sniper is also looking towards the engie

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>>380664219
No

>>380664451
The kind who started playing when MYM came out because
>muh matchmaking

More so, anyone who isn't a retarded child would have quit TF2 the moment there were even rumors about matchmaking in development.

>>380654663
SWEDEN YES

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LOOK AT YOU TINY ITTY BITTY MEN RUNNING FROM SANDVICH

>>380663692
By classic do you mean no mods? Good luck trying to find one that isn't 24/7 map insta-respawn shit.

>>380664703
matchmaking was a fucking mistake and nearly killed TF2 on the spot
>tfw years ago remember how PC users would constantly mock console users for having MM and not a server browser
>now we have MM and newfags eat this shit up
help

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>>380664219

>women on the battlefield

>>380649085
Does this guarantee a system optimization update along with it or is it also going to be the frameless update?

The tragicomical story of class-based shooters:

-Team Fortress 2 is released
-Every aspect of visual design is built upon instant recognition and subconsciously guided effortless navigation
-Goes free, becomes Hat Simulator
-All design goes out of the window
-Blizzard jumps on the bandwagon
-Overfuck Clusterwatch is released
-Frantic mess of effects and colors with no gameplay purpose

>>380664830
I mean servers that only have stock weapons and no new ones

>>380664703
>implying I play regular tf2 anymore
I just play gamemode madness servers now. I don't actually like tf2 anymore.

>>380655629
>People still think it's a direct downgrade

It's all fun and games until one of these throw 400 metal down the trash, I fucking love this sapper, it's a pain in the ass to play against but it really weakens the engies when the defenses are too strong.

>>380656513
>they're better in every way
They are
>what's the problem?
I'm too used to the vanilla viewmodels and miss because of the lack of reference.

I'll admit it's a good casual filter

>>380665152
I will never use minimum viewmodels because I'm a stubborn fuck that doesn't like change.

Am I retarded or is it difficult to tell who's an enemy and who's an ally in a multiplayer game unless they're literally wearing a color-coded uniform? I think I've been conditioned by TF2.

>>380654663
>2:55

>>380665256
I'm sorry anon, you've caught the tard

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>>380664941
>Frantic mess of effects and colors with no gameplay purpose

seriously, i can't see fucking shit when i'm playing that game and it enrages me to no end.

>>380653607
never tapping r is fantastic and i love it

>finally unlocked the rescue ranger and that one wrench that deploys shit faster when you whack it

alright bros what is the best setup/maps to piss off the enemy team with this?

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>>380665256
No overwatch is just visual vomit
>Looking for heads as mccree

>try and help team with tellyporter at spawn
>sephirothshadow99 C&Ds there and destroys it with 0 effort
>move to less obvious spot
>nobody uses it

engi can be fun when you're too drunk to play anything else but when that one son of a biscuit realizes that the telly is winning the game

>>380656575
are you kidding? he says in his videos all the time that he wants pyro to be usable in 6s and would make the meta interesting if people rolled out with pyro instead of for example a second soldier or scout

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>>380649085
>Still weeks away

>>380664983
Tried searching "vanilla" and "classic" in the browser. Absolutely nothing.

>>380665959
Pyro vs heavy was announced over a year ago. I wouldn't be surprised if it was months away.

>>380653207
>year old meme from /tv/
>"1 fucking underage kid"
get the fuck out

>>380659725
>>the little details that give away the scout as the Red spy
like what?

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>>380662370
>Overwatch
>Gets run to the ground because the women have butts and are acting out of character
>Kaplan is forced to whore himself and retcon shit not for the sake of him wanting diversity, but to avoid shit from rabid SJWs

>Team Fortress 2
>Hello I am the scout and I will ask miss pauling if I can get knee deep in her gash for the 18th time today
>Sup scout I am the spy and I fucked your mom
>Here's some candid porn of her, look at it carefully
>Oh my, here comes the heavy weapons guy's sister, naked and covered in honey, she is snapping some random dude's neck
>And obviously followed by soldier, bending over so we can all see his saggy ballsack flapping everywhere, again.
>Anyone noticed the demo is a fucking nigger ? lol k, he's still a bro tho
>I heard the pyro was a brony because he's a massive flaming faggot, pun canonically intended.

How come TF2 is so untouchable. It's fantastic

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>>380658289

>>380659725
>the little details that give away the scout as the Red spy
?

>Jungle Update
>one new Valve PLR map, four+ community maps of various types
>shitloads of miscs
>jungle-themed painted weapons
>one new all-class shotgun that has a slightly tighter spread and knocks targets back but only carries four ammo
>Soldier gets a complete set including; a cluster bomb rocket launcher, an alternate parachute with some completely random stats solely to justify it being a new weapon, and a shovel which does increased damage the higher percentage health the enemy has/
>Demoman gets a new grenade launcher whose pills explode on impact with environment (rocket launcher for demo) but does less damage, and a new shield causes bleed and stun on impact.
>Scout gets a complete set including; a new machine-scattergun that fires very quickly but has a huge spread and does significantly less damage, a new pistol which is more accurate and reduces damage taken while active but fires more slowly and holds less ammo, and a new baseball bat that acts as a jump assist when hitting environment (basically exactly like explosive jumping).

>>380666823
this is the dumbest thing I've read all year

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>>380649085
>submit your shit soon
PUSH THAT UPDATE CART
NOWWWW

>>380666823
but what happens to pyro

>>380666518
>Didn't know the password to the door
>Checks to see if his knife is still in the sniper's back
>takes it
>disbelief at the soldier thinking the BLU spy was him

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>>380657318
>tfw a person with genuine animating talent just wastes it on furry fat smut

Why is it that those with talent waste it.

And those without it seem to grasp and wish they could do so much greater with it.

>>380666757
>>380666518

>The Alarm-O-Tron 5000 board lists "BLU Scout", "has evil twin" and "RED Spy" next to each other, suggesting that the Scout is the RED Spy.
>The BLU Scout shows many hints to his identity, such as not knowing the door password, looking at the Sniper's back at 0:42 to see if his knife is still present, at 2:42 making sure no one is watching what he is about to do.

i also like

>Because the code to the door is 1-1-1-1, the 1 button on the number pad is noticeably more worn out than the other numbers.

>Pyro vs Heavy War was almost a year ago

>>380656784
>best scout player in the game.

B4nny doesn't main anything and he's widely known for being the best demo player. He plays all classes. And he's not the best the scout.

>>380662650
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUIX-dmDrOs

>>380667064
>the Manmelter now deals 10% more damage for 3 seconds after using a teleporter, but only during a full moon

>>380666625
>Zhanna and Soldier
are these the ideal body types?

>>380667196
Fucking hell, has it actually been that long?

>>380667159
Why not ask gabe?

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>>380658289

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>>380667327
>being the best demo player
lolno, kaidus and alle are much better demos than him.
soldier is his best class.

>>380667327

he was the best demo years ago but he now plays pocket and scout, maybe cause maincalling as 6's demo is hard

he is top 5 scout easy

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How come I have not seen anyone of you faggots mention this?

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>>380666625
>Soldier literally converted Heavy's russian sister to the American side by just being himself
HOW CAN THE OTHER CLASSES EVEN COMPETE?

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>put mini outside our spawn on harvest
>banned for griefing

>>380664219
How about no females, 3 new classes, cosmetics that fit the art style, a bunch of new maps, and weapons that aren't gimmicks.

>>380649085
>2017
>having tf2 installed

>>380667609
Because it's not going to be finished anytime soon.

>>380664928
>spend 50$ on a used GPU

problem solved

>>380667606
>he is top 5 scout easy
not hard when most good scouts have retired.
clockwork is still the best scout in existence.

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>>380667641
>put mini out in the open
>surge of -rep comments

>>380667520

Yeah July to August 2016

>>380667865
>use a mini
>bathe in scout main and roaming soldier butthurt

TF2 doesn't need a new class. Any role that a new class could possibly fill, an existing class could do better.

Plus spreading classes too thin just results in RPS-style cancer.

>>380665594
>No overwatch is just visual vomit
To be honest, they chose a type of gameplay that isn't easy to simplify visually

And while it is confusing, you see how blizzard really managed to do a good job with it, if you compare to shit like paladins, the upcoming Darwin Project, or even worse, FUCKING BATTLEBORN

>>380665559
just have fun faggot trial and error there's no set in stone setups

>>380667609
That's a fan contest held by (i think) TF2Maps. Scroll to the very bottom and read the stuff there.

>>380667668

>fighter (soldier)
>artillery (demo)
>skirmisher (scout)

>stealth (spy)
>sniper
>engineer

>medic
>turret (heavy)
>whatever the fuck pyro is (bodyguard?)

i can not think of 3 new archetypes that would fit into an FPS

>he doesn't want the Guard Dog

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>>380667865
>get a critical hit kill
>"CRITS ARE SO FAIR" bind is spammed for 5 minutes

>>380668039
i recognize a few setups that are often used on upward but i have a low IQ and fun is for pussies so i have to copy other setups on other maps.

>>380667595
kaidus is a pubdemo, european leagues are a joke. just because b4nny doesn't bomb 24/7 like a retard and plays cautiously doesn't make him worse

>>380668096
meant for
>>380668029

>>380668096

>he wants to kill doggos

would have to be a robot or something

>>380668168
>always play cautiously and bait over aggressive morons into situations they can't win
>this triggers 90% of my opponents

>>380668210
isn't it just a sentry/dispenser that moves
sounds pretty dumb

>>380667159
dumb people with talent wastes it all on their shitty fetishes and kinks and never look back

smart people with talent not only uses it on their fetishes but on actual, refreshing material because they are aware life isn't just that

that being said inflationfags and fatfags are always the first option, no exceptions.

>>380668029
>Plus spreading classes too thin just results in Overwatch

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>>380658184
>>380658331
>>380658470
>'Fellow dev team, people are complaining about Pyro melee'
>Why?
>'They're great tools that help Pyro excel at close combat, the main reason he exists'
>Fuck that! Let's gut all his melee weapons to hell and back so he can stop succeeding at his job!
>'Brilliant!'

>>380668076
>whatever the fuck pyro is
Psi ops
It's the afterburn, it scares people.

Also airblast, if not at least an effective counter to demo and soldiers, it sure as hell intimidates them

>>380667668
>How about no females

Valve needs the chinamen market

>>380667584
that shit brown ui color offends me

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>>380666723
10/10

>>380668394
it was always stupid that he had a weapon that could OHK any class other than the heavy.
it was honestly fine until they added the degreaser, you know, when he couldn't switch weapons in an instant.
But now it's just useless.

>>380668032
>And while it is confusing, you see how blizzard really managed to do a good job with it
lol no

>>380667668
>>380667668
>3 new classes
No, never

>>380668416
As a gunboat escape plan soldier i have to mindgame the fuck out of a pyro that can airblast. They always just stand there and wait for me to shoot at them so I start shooting at somebody else then snap to them randomly, or turn around to run away then 180 on them.

>>380668579
i think they should just make the degreaser a longer, more powerful afterburn weapon that doesn't go out on healthpack pickups or water, because it covers the person with oil. get rid of the switch speed, then unnerf the axtinguisher. bam!

>>380655267
You seriously think a Vietnam update won't have flamethrowers?

>>380668910
>"It aint free" starts playing

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>>380668394
I miss the old degreaser and axtinguisher so much, pyro was my favorite class back then now he's my least played.
>Juking scouts and soldiers all day every day
>Sniping scouts with the flare gun as they try to get away
>Flare punching pyros and demoknights

>>380668752
>not wanting to be a guard dog or civilian
Don't know who the third will be but valve would think of something.

>>380668470
The only way to make a female character not shitty garbage waifubait:
>would people still care about them if they were a man?

>>380668331
>all kaidus webms are just him bombing with no intervention from pocket, and getting to mid literally 20 seconds before everyone else all of which walking through choke at the exact same time
b4nny is cautious and uses stickies for traps as was designed by the class. he works with his team on pushes and doesn't try to be the hero 1v5 while still playing the class effectively enough to shut down the enemy team. demoman is the most important class in the game, trading demo for medic is stupid because while the enemy team has no heals, your team can't push anyways because you don't have the fucking AREA DENIAL CLASS available

>>380668775
Just walk at them, what are they gonna do?
>+forward
>wait for airblast
>shoot

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>>380668994
You still have this.

>>380663690
>stalemate because no one can push through each enemy defences
>join server
>pick medic, build uber and pair with soldier, demo or heavy
>what happens now?
>lets go practice some medicine
>ubering 3 people at the same time while blowing the fuck out enemy defences
>can save lives, can ruin lives, can uber offensively and defensively
>everyone hates you with passion but you jump and wsda like a crack addict
>a literal hot pocket in competitive, everyone needs you

Literral kami sama, only troubles are faggots demos >>380664380 and pyros because they can send you flying even in uber. Also Vaccinator is broken in right hands.

>>380666518
When the RED Spy (disguised as the BLU Scout) swings the Knife around on the line "I kill plenty of Spies. They're dime-a-dozen backstabbing scumbags... Like you!", he swings the blade into his hand and cuts himself with it. Upon closer inspection though, he was actually swinging it by the safe handle, which is the side which connects to the blunt edge of the blade. This means that he would not have actually been harmed by the Knife closing on him.

Also
>>380667091

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>>380669093
If I want to stomp I'll just play heavy, RS is so broken it's not even fun to use.

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>>380668507
Yeah last time i was on I was messing with toonhud. I just reverted it to good ol' grey.

>>380668775

shoot your first rocket into the sky, like just rail it straight upwards

random tip i was given years ago. i have no idea why it works

>>380669090
>just walk into the pyro
I'm talking about players that reflect on reaction and not just random airblasts.

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When is this shit getting a nerf?

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>>380669093
>people get mad when i use this
>keep using it
>"fucking crutch shitter"

>>380668848
I actually agree with you
the degreaser was a crutch since day 1, and combined with the OG Axtinguisher, made the pyro extremely obnoxious, almost as obnoxious as Reserve shooter pyros (why did they give him this weapon)
speaking of which
why the fuck do the Engie, Pyro and Soldier not get the Family business?

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>>380662874
Done

>>380669394
>having troubles with spies of all classes in 2017
nigga
are you for fucking real

>>380669412
because FB has a soviet icon on it.

>>380669394
It does it's job. The only complaint I have about it is that shitters rely on it so much that if they're up against a good Pyro, it's use is lost, and then they fumble around with their dick trying to figure out how to use the real fucking watches.

>>380669062
did you reply to the wrong person? I wasn't talking about b4nny or kaidu
>>380668994
>i miss my crutch

>>380669412
>degreaser
>crutch
>not the only thing keeping Pyro semi-usable

Neck you'reself.

>>380669378

you enter the range where a human cannot physically react in time. this is well outside flamethrower ranger

>>380669532
where?

>>380669378
>I'm talking about players that reflect on reaction
You know this isn't possible right? Human reaction time is 0.25s, they're not reacting to point blank rockets they're guessing when you're going to shoot. If you ever run into a pyro who never misses a reflect (assuming you're firing randomly) he's using a bot.

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>>380669658
look at the stock.

>>380669554
Pyro was a crutch from the start that need every advantage he could get.

>>380669410
I'll never understand the hate for the Reserve Shooter. Then again I'm a puff n sting shit head because why stop using what works?

>>380655539
Yes retard
>its older overwatch
>but deeper gameplay mechanics

>>380669631
it is and always was a crutch you fucking shitter. Without the degreaser it was perfectly fine, with it, it's a crutch, an easily counter-able crutch, but one none the less

>>380669756
wow I never noticed it

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>>380669554
>flare and mini crit axtinguish
>crutch
what the fuck are you babbling about

>>380669791
>not spotting bait from a mile away

>>380667641
>join koth, we have 7 snipers and are getting spawn camped
>write, "I think 7 snipers was not a wise idea"
>votekicked
I chuckled.

>>380667186
Want to know some meta screwballs they threw with that though?
>"Scout" is wielding the Sandman. Prior to the update, Spy disguises would not mimic any custom weapons.
If you played the game at the time and were wary of the game's mechanics and limitations, that'd have been a red flag that he was NOT a Spy. Of course the shorts take an artistic license.
>"Scout" grabs the Knife from the Sniper's back with his left hand rather than his right and attempts to do a knife trick. When BLU Spy hands it back to him, he does a real knife trick also left-handed. Later in the video, RED Spy does a left-handed chop to incapacitate the BLU Medic. Spy vs Sniper is the update that introduced lefty-flip viewmodels.
Mostly an inconsequential observation, but a neat thing nonetheless.

>>380669860
mini crit axtinguisher + degreaser was fine, as is the flare gun, I thought he was bitching about pre-nerf with degreaser

>>380668775
>gunboat escape plan soldier i have to mindgame the fuck out of a pyro that can airblast.
Me too, it's pretty fucking complex, but turns out there's a technique, you put the gunboats in the trash and finish him off with the shotgun or get a teammate to steamroll him while you banner everybody.

>>380669974
No the full crit axtinguisher was stupidly powerful to the point no other melee was viable. It was rightfully nerfed.

What I don't understand is why they nerfed it again when the backstab axtinguisher was perfectly fine.

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i kinda wish they removed minicrits on burning target for a fuckhuge blast, then it'd probably be viable as hell since it already gives pyro some extra mobility

>>380653253
>>380663141
idiots, the both of you

>>380669768
>why stop using what works?
this, it worked most of the time and it still had a good amount of drawback to it like chewing through your ammo, having worse afterburn, and shotgun having less ammo in the clip

>>380668994
I miss it too but then I learned to flare gun. Little red 90's for days. It's still not an actual class for getting things done but it's so much fucking fun. God, I love hitting scouts with that thing.

>>380661093
>"Heh, cry some more."
Meet the heavy is great.

>>380670062
Oh my God I thought the detonator and the scorch shot were the same weapon. Shows how much I know about the gimmick class.

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>>380669847
You're a fucking idiot. Pyro is the 2nd most useless class in the game next to Engi and he needs all the fucking help he can get. Degreaser was the only thing giving him any hope of actually being offensive next to trying to plink away at idiots with flares. Please play against actual people not braindead retards and you'll quickly figure this out.

Source: 3k hours playing Highlander at all levels.

>>380670135
Flare has been trash ever since the degreaser nerf, shotgun is straight up better now and it's just not as fun.

>>380669651
>>380669689
It's rare but I'm telling you guys there's some nolife pyro players that reflect anything i throw at them if they're looking at me. Good news is it's impossible for them to kill me too.

>>380669394
I miss when Pyros could light DR spies on fire. It was like sending a message, either get better at Spy or use a different watch because you obviously suck and need a crutch just to play.

>>380670047
no the axtinguisher absolutely did not deserve the current nerf

>>380670265
Nigger I dumped 900 hours into pyro you cannot reflect consistently at that range no matter how good you are. It's all mindgames and prediction.

>>380670009
Gunboats are fun though.

>>380670238
>You're a fucking idiot. Pyro is the 2nd most useless class in the game next to Spy
ftfy

>>380670062

just consider the counter play. the enemy team spends 90% of the round on fire. this is not fun and your idea is terrible

being un-fucking-fun to the point of aggravating is why many terrible weapons are considered OP - sure they clear servers, but not in the intended fashion

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OHOHOHO

ALL OF YOU ARE DANCING BABIES!

rainy day crate looks pretty tempting, is it worth it?

>>380670494
most of the hats have poor resale value from what i've heard
plumber's cap is really nice though

>>380670238
pre-nerf axtinguisher + degreaser was stupid and a massive crutch, you literally cannot defend it
but where it is right now is just stupid.
>Engineer is useless
OPINION DISCARDED